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It’s ‘Alarming’: Children Are Severely Behind in Reading

The kindergarten crisis of last year, when millions of 5-year-olds spent months outside of classrooms, has become this year’s reading emergency.

As the pandemic enters its third year, a cluster of new studies now show that about a third of children in the youngest grades are missing reading benchmarks, up significantly from before the pandemic.

In Virginia, one study found that early reading skills were at a 20-year low this fall, which the researchers described as “alarming.”

In the Boston region, 60 percent of students at some high-poverty schools have been identified as at high risk for reading problems — twice the number of students as before the pandemic, according to Tiffany P. Hogan, director of the Speech and Language Literacy Lab at the MGH Institute of Health Professions in Boston.

Children in every demographic group have been affected, but Black and Hispanic children, as well as those from low-income families, those with disabilities and those who are not fluent in English, have fallen the furthest behind.

“We’re in new territory,” Dr. Hogan said about the pandemic’s toll on reading. If children do not become competent readers by the end of elementary school, the risks are “pretty dramatic,” she said. Poor readers are more likely to drop out of high school, earn less money as adults and become involved in the criminal justice system.

The literacy crisis did not start with the pandemic. In 2019, results on national and international exams showed stagnant or declining American performance in reading, and widening gaps between high and low performers. The causes are multifaceted, but many experts point to a shortage of educators trained in phonics and phonemic awareness — the foundational skills of linking the sounds of spoken English to the letters that appear on the page.

The pandemic has compounded those issues.

Children spent months out of the classroom, where they were supposed to learn the basics of reading — the ABCs, what sound a “b” or “ch” makes. Many first and second graders returned to classrooms needing to review parts of the kindergarten curriculum. But nearly half of public schools have teaching vacancies, especially in special education and the elementary grades, according to a federal survey conducted in December and January.

Even students with well-trained teachers have had far fewer hands-on hours with them than before the pandemic, which has been defined by closures, uneven access to online instruction, quarantine periods and — even on the best days — virus-related interruptions to regular classroom routines. Now, schools are under pressure to boost literacy as quickly as possible so students gain the reading skills they need to learn the rest of the curriculum, from math word problems to civics lessons. Billions of federal stimulus dollars are flowing to districts for tutoring and other supports, but their effect may be limited if schools cannot find quality staff members to hire.

At Capital Preparatory Harbor Lower School, a charter elementary school in the working-class coastal city of Bridgeport, Conn., about half of the first graders did not set foot inside a classroom during their crucial kindergarten year. Though the school building reopened in January 2021 on a hybrid schedule, many families, concerned about the virus, opted to continue full-time remote learning.

At the beginning of this school year, when all students returned to in-person learning, more than twice as many first graders as before the pandemic tested at kindergarten levels or below in their literacy skills, according to the administration.

Teachers started with the basics: how to orient and hold a book, and where the names of the author and illustrator could be found. The school is using federal stimulus dollars to create classroom libraries filled with titles that appeal to the largely Black and Hispanic students there, like “Firebird,” about a young, Black dancer by the ballerina Misty Copeland, and “Hair Love,” about a Black father styling his daughter’s hair.

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The stimulus money is also paying for a new structured phonics curriculum called Fundations. Given the depth of many students’ struggles with reading, the work has taken on “a level of urgency,” said Garensha John, a first-grade teacher at the school. “Let’s get it done. As soon as they know this, they’ll excel.”

From the start of the pandemic, when schools abruptly shuttered in March 2020, math skills were clearly affected, while some early research suggested that students’ reading skills were holding steady, perhaps because more parents read with their children at home than practiced math.

But now, “What we’re seeing is that there are a lot of children who didn’t get the stimulation they need” during the pandemic to adequately develop early speech and reading skills, which are closely linked, Dr. Hogan said.

On a Wednesday morning in February, Mrs. John arrayed 13 6- and 7-year-olds on a rug in front of her, and led them through a series of well-rehearsed exercises sounding out simple written letter combinations and words. The children, clad in uniforms, chanted and clapped as they read in unison. The word of the day was a difficult one for many children to read and pronounce: “ships.”

Cameron Segui, 7, wearing a blue surgical mask and black glasses, placed his hand under his chin, a strategy students use to check if their mouths are positioned correctly. The sound “puh” should be made with the jaw relatively high up, for example, with the cheeks puffing out. “Zh” makes the jaw vibrate, but the “sh” and “s” sounds in “ships” should not.

Some parents and educators have argued that masks are partially responsible for language and literacy deficits. But researchers say that unlike the well-documented connection between school closures and decreased achievement, there is not yet strong evidence that masking has hindered the development of reading skills.

Such conclusions “would just be conjecture at this point,” said Nathan Clemens, a dyslexia expert at the University of Texas, Austin.

Later that day in Mrs. John’s class, students broke into small groups to practice writing and segmenting words into different sounds. Cameron, in one of the more advanced groups, was working on full sentences, and pointed proudly to his writing: “Ben had a red and tan hat,” he read.

The biggest problem for Capital Prep, and many other schools, is a shortage of educators like Mrs. John, 30, a Tufts University graduate who received formal training in phonics instruction in a previous job. Many graduates of teacher-preparation programs lack this skill set, and some of the nation’s most popular reading curriculums do not emphasize it, despite a large body of research showing it is crucial.

States like Mississippi, Alabama and Massachusetts have begun retraining teachers in phonics and decommissioning outdated curriculum materials. But some efforts were interrupted or slowed by the pandemic.

At Capital Prep, Mrs. John’s students have made big leaps since September. She serves as a model for colleagues, and the school is providing professional development. Still, in February, there were seven open teaching jobs out of 23 at the school, with some students being taught by inexperienced substitutes. Steve Perry, the founder of the Capital Prep charter school network, which has schools in both Connecticut and New York, recently took a trip to Puerto Rico to recruit educators.

Dr. Hogan, the Boston researcher, has a federal grant to provide intensive, small-group tutoring to children at high-poverty schools who are behind on early reading skills. She, too, has struggled to fill open positions, despite pushing the pay to up to $40 per hour from $15 per hour.

“I’m running on fumes,” she said.

It does not help that there is surging demand for private reading and speech therapy for children from affluent families. Fees can run up to $200 per hour, allowing some educators to leave the classroom entirely.

by Anonymousreply 1March 9, 2022 2:57 PM

Tamara Cella, a phonics specialist who holds a doctorate from Johns Hopkins University, left the New York City public school system in 2016, frustrated by the strain of principal turnover. In addition to a job at a New Jersey private school, she now moonlights as a phonics tutor for Brooklyn Letters, a company that provides in-home sessions.

“Tutoring pays extremely well,” Dr. Cella acknowledged.

She tutors children facing some of the same challenges as those at Capital Prep — missing core phonics skills, and difficulty transitioning from simple reading exercises to comprehending books. But Dr. Cella worries more about the students she no longer sees.

“That feeling of guilt comes over me,” she said. “What about the kids in the Bronx?”

by Anonymousreply 2March 9, 2022 2:57 PM

Its parental failure. Too busy doing drugs and drink.

by Anonymousreply 3March 9, 2022 3:00 PM

What a surprise closing schools has consequences

by Anonymousreply 4March 9, 2022 3:05 PM

I blame the parents. Outside of school, my grandparents and mother worked to teach me reading, multiplication tables, etc so that when I got to those subjects I not only was prepared but I also excelled to the point in being asked if I wanted to skip 2nd and 3rd grade.

by Anonymousreply 5March 9, 2022 3:05 PM

Poor illiterate uneducated adults breed children and they are incapable of giving them intellectual foundations. What a mess.

by Anonymousreply 6March 9, 2022 3:06 PM

r6 exactly right!

by Anonymousreply 7March 9, 2022 3:07 PM

Do kids get homework anymore?

by Anonymousreply 8March 9, 2022 3:08 PM

What r5 and r6 said. The parents aren't reading to their kids at home. Normal parents make this a priority with their young children, as well as teaching spelling. Too many piece of shit people who shouldn't have children are having them and doing nothing to take care of them.

by Anonymousreply 9March 9, 2022 3:09 PM

r8 :LOL! They do nothing IN school, so why would they do homework?

by Anonymousreply 10March 9, 2022 3:09 PM

Quel surprise. 24h/7 gadget. culture makes people stupider. It would be one thing if children used their gadgets to read and search for information but that's not what happens.

Libraries and books were useful isolation systems which developed the ability to not only read, but concentrate for more than 30 seconds.

True readers among kids must be getting rare.

by Anonymousreply 11March 9, 2022 3:18 PM

This is terribly sad to me. This definitely falls on bad parenting. I read to my kids when they were tiny tots, especially before bedtime. No greater joy than that, reading childhood favorites to little ones.

Plus, there are so many simple games and jigsaw puzzles that teach fundamentals, like matching a picture of a cat with the word “cat”, “A” for apple, etc. And programs like Sesame Street. There’s no excuse.

by Anonymousreply 12March 9, 2022 3:23 PM

Excellent news.

by Anonymousreply 13March 9, 2022 3:23 PM

r11 these kids don't have multiple digital gadgets.

by Anonymousreply 14March 9, 2022 3:25 PM

no. but they were provided gadgets by many school systems during the pandemic.

I was speaking generally.

5 year olds shouldn't be parked in front of gadgets but I see it all the time. Also 1st-3rd graders will be relying on older brothers and sisters to help them become literate, as well as parents. If the entire family has abandoned reading and printed texts, the toddler isn't going to learn to read.

by Anonymousreply 15March 9, 2022 3:29 PM

How many of these kids can't read but they know how to work their newest iphone?

by Anonymousreply 16March 9, 2022 3:29 PM

Schools don't have textbooks anymore, every student gets a laptop. Everything is digital now. No notebooks or note-taking by hand. That's just the way it is in the modern world.

by Anonymousreply 17March 9, 2022 3:32 PM

The "gadgets" complaint was made about you when you were five, but it was "television" instead.

This isn't about smartphones or technology, it's about parents not prioritizing learning. There are so many resources for kids to learn from online, and it doesn't cost much to have, say, the PBS channel on your TV, or find a learning channel on YouTube that's appropriate.

But we also live in an age where people are having to work jobs AND have "side hustles" just to make ends meet, and I think what we're really seeing here is a problem that used to be considered solely the domain of the working poor: not having enough time or resources to devote to kids' learning outside of school. Nowadays, that's the case for nearly anyone who works, regardless of their socioeconomic class.

Add into that the decimation of the public education system and there are significant issues here beyond "stupid retard parents don't read to their kids like I did."

by Anonymousreply 18March 9, 2022 3:34 PM

It's alarming how harming they feel!

by Anonymousreply 19March 9, 2022 3:35 PM

[quote] there are significant issues here beyond "stupid retard parents don't read to their kids like I did."

No, this is still at the core of it.

by Anonymousreply 20March 9, 2022 3:36 PM

republicans need moronic, poorly educated, deplorable Americans to easily persuade to vote for them..............this is PLANNED

by Anonymousreply 21March 9, 2022 3:36 PM

I have a lot of sympathy for children whose parents are illiterate - there is a far greater proportion of people who never learned to properly read and write than we realise, often because they were never taught to manage their dyslexia. Functional illiteracy is sadly common.

But most children have parents who can read, and if they expected the children to learn to write and add and subtract at school then shame on them. I didn’t learn a single thing at school that I could not have learned at home via solo study or under my parents’ tutelage until I was well into my teens.

I suspect these children had parents who were more concerned with binge watching Spider-Man or figuring out which order to show them Star Wars than concerning themselves with basic education.

by Anonymousreply 22March 9, 2022 3:37 PM

as a former teacher (math)........I can honestly say that the kids who DID NOT DO their 8th-grade math homework are having severe difficulty with adult circumstances and problems.............. I see them all the time in food stores, their jobs, and out and about..........and they got EXACTLY what they deserved........

by Anonymousreply 23March 9, 2022 3:40 PM

[quote]republicans need moronic, poorly educated, deplorable Americans to easily persuade to vote for them..............this is PLANNED

Uh no, it is the Dems that have the most loyal voting block with the lowest IQs.

by Anonymousreply 24March 9, 2022 3:42 PM

[quote] Uh no, it is the Dems that have the most loyal voting block with the lowest IQs.

Come back to me when the Democrats themselves are in a long-term cult, completely enthralled with the likes of a monstrous clown.

by Anonymousreply 25March 9, 2022 3:47 PM

I live in California and am an older parent. So my kid didn't know how to read when he started kindergarten. I learned to read, without any parental help, in the 70's from kindergarten to third grade. So my son couldn't read and they wouldn't teach him. Had a parent conference about labeling him "special needs" because he was testing poorly. My husband asked if they would help him with reading and they basically said no. And he got kind of pissed and said "What do you do with him all day". I have to add that my son had all female teachers and they seemed to favor girl students.

So the summer when my son was going from third to fourth grade we taught him to read with those stupid "Diary of a Wimpy Kid" books. He then got a fourth grade male teacher that had a lot of math and robotic lessons and he thrived! He's been an honor student ever since. He told me that his 11th grade English teacher asked him if he was a writer.

He has a good female friend who's parents are younger and pot heads. I know that she is a smart girl. But she got labeled special needs around the same time my son was struggling. She isn't in any of his classes now because she is in the remedial courses. It's a shame because she is a smart, tough, fun girl. The system and her parents are failing her. I'm glad that we were able to help my son. He's going to go to college and do very well!

by Anonymousreply 26March 9, 2022 3:50 PM

[quote]That does not negate the FACT that the Dems most loyal voting block is the one the article OP posted is mostly talking about.

by Anonymousreply 27March 9, 2022 3:51 PM

[quote]Come back to me when the Democrats themselves are in a long-term cult, completely enthralled with the likes of a monstrous clown.

That does not negate the FACT that the Dem's most loyal voting block is the one the article OP posted is mostly talking about.

by Anonymousreply 28March 9, 2022 3:52 PM

Some kids need one-on one help when it comes to reading, R26. A teacher with 25-30 something students is not able to offer individual help to every child. That’s why parental involvement is so important. Glad your child is doing well, but you seem to place a lot of blame on the teacher.

by Anonymousreply 29March 9, 2022 4:01 PM

[QUOTE] But we also live in an age where people are having to work jobs AND have "side hustles" just to make ends meet, and I think what we're really seeing here is a problem that used to be considered solely the domain of the working poor: not having enough time or resources to devote to kids' learning outside of school. Nowadays, that's the case for nearly anyone who works, regardless of their socioeconomic class.

I have to respectfully disagree on some of your points. I think American society has deteriorated into a “flex culture” which prioritizes an expensive lifestyle that forces people to overwork. EVERYONE must have the latest cell phone, designer bags and clothes, exotic trips, new cars, stone counters and subway tile and shiplap, plastic surgery etc. I’m in my 40s, grew up in suburban LA, but holy hell, was life simple back then. Plenty of one car families, no one had cable, vacations consisted of road trips in state, shopping was done at Mervyn’s and homes were cozily outdated. Keeping up with the Joneses has led to this rat race.

That being said, parents today are so damned fucking lazy. Blame teachers all you want, but what are you supposed to do when parents have been handing Junior an iphone since six months of age? Yes, we had TV back then, but it wasn’t 24/7. Afterschool cartoons were from 3-5, after which it was news, maybe a family sitcom (on Fridays) and then adult shows like Dallas, which Mom forced us to go to our rooms while she watched her shows. We had plenty of time to read because there was nothing else to entertain us. Phones are 24/7 though. Nowadays, most parents are more than happy to give Junior the phone to shut him up than to actually engage, because binging a series on Netflix has taken priority. The worst part is they delude themselves into thinking the phone is educational (“he can read on his Kindle app!”) when it isn’t.

by Anonymousreply 30March 9, 2022 4:21 PM

I'm sorry, but blaming this on the pandemic is a cop out. This is the parents' fault. I learned to read before I started pre-school. Obviously, not at a collegiate level, but I remember very clearly being able to read a Berenstain Bear's book and a Mother Goose book of nursery rhymes before I started school, because my grandmother and mother actually took the time to fucking read to me as a kid.

And I don't wanna hear the "oh but they don't have time because of work," bullshit. My grandmother was a full-time nurse and my mother had me when she was a fucking teenager. So, she was in school. Still managed to read to her kid and introduce me to books. The entire immediate family is like this.

They need to stop treating teachers like glorified babysitters and start this basic shit at home.

by Anonymousreply 31March 9, 2022 4:31 PM

yeah, I've said this on the DL before and was totally laughed at, because, OF COURSE, most of these bitch queens haven't seen the inside of a classroom since they were in grade school. but yes, all of the kids are suffering right now and with very few exceptions, are WAY behind

and r31 is totally an example of the kind of bitch who literally knows NOTHING about teaching and school, yet feels the need to hold forth. I'd rap her hands so hard she'd bleed for a week, fucking cunt

by Anonymousreply 32March 9, 2022 4:34 PM

You're an idiot r32. If you actually had, at minimum, a 3rd grade reading comprehension level, you would understand that I was very clearly advocating for more parental involvement in children's education as opposed to just "dumping" kids off onto the schools and expecting teachers to do everything.

Is literacy no longer a requirement in order to be an educator these days? Maybe the teachers [italic]are[/italic], in fact, the problem, here.

by Anonymousreply 33March 9, 2022 4:39 PM

[quote]republicans need moronic, poorly educated, deplorable Americans to easily persuade to vote for them..............this is PLANNED

This is the Boston Metro area, dear. Nary a Republican in sight.

by Anonymousreply 34March 9, 2022 4:53 PM

The solution will be as it always has been, throw more and more and more money at it (while not addressing the underlying cultural issues poisoning education for decades).

by Anonymousreply 35March 9, 2022 4:54 PM

I agree r30. Everybody wants to live like a Kardashian now.

by Anonymousreply 36March 9, 2022 4:55 PM

Hire some 90 year old catholic school nuns

by Anonymousreply 37March 9, 2022 4:58 PM

R30, you said it. I grew up like that. I think we may have been the last generation of kids expected to entertain ourselves. My mother read to us every night. As we got older she read classics with us like Little Women and the Wind in the Willows. The rest of the time however was spent entertaining ourselves by our own reading or some other creative activity until dinner which we always ate together as a family.

by Anonymousreply 38March 9, 2022 5:08 PM

R4 thinks protecting kids, teachers, and the community from sickness is bad

by Anonymousreply 39March 9, 2022 5:10 PM

R32, someone needs to rap your hands. You sound like a dumb cunt who shouldn't be teaching anyone

by Anonymousreply 40March 9, 2022 5:11 PM

Same here, R5. My kindergarten teacher told my mother I was bored because I was so far ahead of my classmates. She used to tell me I could take a book and go read quietly in the corner of the room behind some bookcases when she knew I was bored.

My niece isn't even that great a parent, but she reads to her kids and buys books that teach things. Both of her kids are far ahead of their peers.

by Anonymousreply 41March 9, 2022 5:56 PM

Again, R24/27/28, it's not the constituency of the Democratic party under the spell of an anti-democratic, "makeup-slathered, badly-coiffed hustler."

by Anonymousreply 42March 9, 2022 6:03 PM

Isn't there an app for that? I mean, there should be tons of educational programs on TV or available as DVD/Blu-Ray Boxsets, or on streaming platforms which encourage children and maybe even teens to educate themselves playfully.

Parents don't even have to get personally involved, as in reading to their children. All they have to do is pick something that represent their values best and let the kids have it.

For kids, even playing silly computer games all day gets boring. They want challenges in their lives.

by Anonymousreply 43March 9, 2022 6:21 PM

[quote]it's not the constituency of the Democratic party under the spell of an anti-democratic, "makeup-slathered, badly-coiffed hustler."

Give it a rest. The thread is not about Trump and his voters.

by Anonymousreply 44March 9, 2022 6:27 PM

I propose mandatory Drag Queen Story Hours nationwide.

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by Anonymousreply 45March 9, 2022 6:32 PM

Y Kant Tori Read?

by Anonymousreply 46March 9, 2022 7:47 PM

My son could read and write and do very basic math Before he entered kindergarten. I taught him. He had a vocabulary with many polysyllabic words by the time he was 3 years old, (e.g., told me something he saw at the zoo was "magnificent!".

by Anonymousreply 47March 9, 2022 9:00 PM

I have an 8 year old great nephew that is reading at a high school level. His mother is an idiot with shitty life choices galore,but she always bought him learning toys and read to him every night. It makes a huge difference. Teachers cant teach anymore because they are too busy trying to keep feral kids from victimizing their class mates. And baby,if you dont think there arent some horrific monsters in schools now you should go audit a class sometime.

by Anonymousreply 48March 9, 2022 9:13 PM

R14, they don’t need digital gadgets; my children got biweekly trips to the dollar store. They were allowed to choose 2 books; those giant multiple activities where you can color the picture that matches the word or trace the alphabet. I was divorced and worked 2 jobs. They still got library cards and had to check out books there and from the schools library. People are fucking lazy now.

by Anonymousreply 49March 9, 2022 9:33 PM

Is r49 a meth head?

by Anonymousreply 50March 10, 2022 4:37 AM

Most of this is more likely the black community. Please don't call me racist. the article below is written by a black teacher. She says that only 15% of 8th graders have proficient reading skills and half don't even have basic reading skills. This has been going on long before covid.

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by Anonymousreply 51March 10, 2022 5:09 AM

[quote]She says that only 15% of 8th graders have proficient reading skills and half don't even have basic reading skills.

That's definitely not white kids. Sorry but it's the truth.

by Anonymousreply 52March 10, 2022 5:24 AM

It's all a concerted plot to get more viewership for the Kardashians.

by Anonymousreply 53March 10, 2022 5:26 AM

Why is it that college level reading is part of US, yet we get so many Trumptard CRAZIES?

by Anonymousreply 54March 10, 2022 5:43 AM

Not in Massachusetts you don't r54

by Anonymousreply 55March 10, 2022 5:57 AM

Serious question. Why can't Trump acolytes read or pretend to for the idiot father's sake? A simpleton cunt shouldn't kill your business, right?

by Anonymousreply 56March 10, 2022 6:07 AM

Instead of teaching their children how to read with months and months and months together at home with their kids, parents were drinking alcohol, watching Netflix and endlessly scrolling their phones and now blame the teachers when their kids can't read

by Anonymousreply 57March 10, 2022 6:08 AM

It has spread all throughout education. My college freshman class this year is fucking appalling. They don't know how to take notes, they don't know how to study, and they are failing out in record numbers. Whatever high schools did for pandemic education clearly did not work.

The only good thing to come of this, long-term, is completely burying the pipe dream that online education will eventually replace in person. It won't. It is not the same and it will never be.

by Anonymousreply 58March 10, 2022 6:22 AM

[quote] Yes, we had TV back then, but it wasn’t 24/7.

I would just like to say, for the younger DLers, when you turned on the TV at 2am in the morning, there was literally nothing on any of the channels--a blank screen. (Sometimes that blank screen had an annoying hum.)

When VHS players and cassettes with movies came out, it was so wonderful because if you were up late at night with a headache or a cold or something, at least you could watch a movie.

by Anonymousreply 59March 10, 2022 6:26 AM

When I was growing up I remember a tv announcer would say "it's 10 o'clock, do you know where your children are. That was in the sixties. In the fifties, the Tv would go off at midnight and there would be a pattern on the tv until I think 6:00 am.

by Anonymousreply 60March 10, 2022 6:39 AM

Nickelodeon ran 24/7 when I was growing up.

In their defense, though, at least they'd be showing classics like I Dream of Jeannie and I Love Lucy on Nick at Nite, so I wasn't completely deprived of a solid, robust, American, education.

by Anonymousreply 61March 10, 2022 6:46 AM

When Nickelodean was first on, when we finally got cable, at about 2am, it would turn into budget basement Christian evangelism tv.

by Anonymousreply 62March 10, 2022 6:50 AM

I learned to read by myself at the library the summer before kindergarten. I blame illiterate parents and social media

by Anonymousreply 63March 10, 2022 9:42 AM

We are importing millions of illiterates every year. Many in their own languages. California is a perfect example. They used to have some of the best schools in the nation.

by Anonymousreply 64March 10, 2022 10:12 AM

R26, as the article mentioned, the curriculums that focused on memorization of sight words were a big part of the problem. Kids could memorize the words, but that doesn’t teach them how to phonetically decipher other words. So when they progress to later grades where they’re expected to read many different types of material, and not just a list of target words, they fall behind. My cousin’s daughter struggled because of this.

by Anonymousreply 65March 10, 2022 10:33 AM

Also, my niece, who just turned 6 and is great at math, interested in animals and science and other things she learns in school, still can’t read. Both her parents learned to read at an earlier age, and she likes books and being read to, and she also attended preschool before kindergarten, albeit with a year’s gap for COVID. She was just turning 4 in March 2020 when the pandemic started. But since she excels in all other aspects of school and wants to learn to read, and likes stories, I’m pretty sure the way they teach it, omitting phonics instruction, is the problem. She can’t sound things out because she’s not being taught the method to do that.

by Anonymousreply 66March 10, 2022 10:43 AM

Phonics? Spelling and reading by *sounds*?

需要学中文的小孩可没那么幸福!你必须一个字一个字学写,不然的话,你根本不可能阅读!

by Anonymousreply 67March 10, 2022 10:45 AM

R67, I think what you’re getting at is that phonics can’t be used to learn how to read Chinese. But still, the phonetic method was used by teachers to teach English reading for years, and it worked. Most people who are adults today in the US learned that way. So when my brother is trying to help my niece read by saying “sound it out” and she looks confused, that’s what I think of.

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by Anonymousreply 68March 10, 2022 11:02 AM

I have not read the entire thread, but as a Waldorf Teacher, I will point out that children *should NOT be reading* at five or six. They are developmentally not ready and it can cause comprehension problems later on. In Waldorf Schools there is no reading in Kindergarten. In first grade reading is introduce through games and songs during the second half of the year, but active reading does not begin until 7.

by Anonymousreply 69March 10, 2022 11:14 AM

R68: Pinyin, or romanisation, is only useful after you’ve learned how to write the characters.

你必须先看的懂这些字, 然后 ni cai neng ba tamen yong yingwen zimu yi ge zi yi ge zi pin chulai.

That’s why ideogramatic-based language, like Chinese, will always require one to learn to write/recognise the characters, before the pinyin/phonetic part comes in

by Anonymousreply 70March 10, 2022 11:15 AM

R21 R23 kids kant rite.......inglish.....anymore

by Anonymousreply 71March 10, 2022 11:21 AM

If parents GIVE A SHIT, this doesn’t happen. I was reading before I was in kindergarten because my broke single mother taught me to read and took me to the public library and was a reader, herself. Granted, she didn’t read classical literature, but she modeled reading as a pleasurable activity. Everyone I know reads to their small children. It’s like encouraging them to walk or speak or swim.

I can’t even understand how people don’t understand this. Surely even trash people like the Kardashians want their kids to be literate.

by Anonymousreply 72March 10, 2022 11:29 AM

Reading is overrated. I got Alexa for that.

by Anonymousreply 73March 10, 2022 11:48 AM

this a thread better off left for a magat

by Anonymousreply 74March 10, 2022 11:56 AM

My brother and sister in law both work full time and they read every night to my 2 and 4 year old nephews. Both kids have always loved books because their parents made a point of reading to them from the time they were babies.

I don’t have kids but what everyone is saying is right on. It starts at home. Being a parent is nonstop work - the dad who posted above about his son being labeled special needs so they worked with him at home and got him into those diary of a wimpy kid books and now he’s thriving in high school? There you go.

So many people are breeding and not doing shit for their kids. But none of these articles want to say that.

by Anonymousreply 75March 10, 2022 12:06 PM

No one wants to read anymore. Podcasts!! 😒 I was thinking about this today when I was reading a true crime sub on Reddit. People want videos, podcasts, etc. All of my life reading has been, idk, an addiction really. My mother took us to the library when we preschool age . She made sure we were issued a library card and made it a routine to take us to visit the library at least once a week, usually twice. We went to story time. Books were treasured in my home. My apologies, I am probably way off of the track here, wondering around lost at the train station, lol. It just feels as if we have lost something vital and precious. Sorry, leaving now.

by Anonymousreply 76March 10, 2022 12:24 PM

Diversity is more important.

by Anonymousreply 77March 10, 2022 12:31 PM

R77- Except for when you must conform to the new societal " norms" and have your every thought and feeling censored.

by Anonymousreply 78March 10, 2022 1:12 PM

When I was growing up they taught sight-reading. I couldn't learn it even though my mom read to me a lot. I started complaining because I wanted to know how to read and in those days they made you read out loud. I was in the D group and it was really embarrassing. The kids teased me and said I was dumb. My mom got me a tutor and she taught me phonics. I learned how to read in 2 weeks. My teacher got mad at my mother I think because it showed the teacher that she wasn't a good teacher. anyway, I learned to read and became a bookworm.

by Anonymousreply 79March 10, 2022 5:17 PM

It can't just be blamed on schools closing, a lot of it has to do with the fact that a lot of parents don't care about educating their children themselves, even simple things like reading with them.

Also, the headline is so alarmist. They'll catch up fairly quickly. We're seeing more of this kind of thing now and it feels like it has an element of "we shouldn't have done anything when covid hit, because look what's happening now!"

by Anonymousreply 80March 10, 2022 5:21 PM

The thing is that most parents simply don't have the time to spend any time, educational or recreational, with their kids, because they are too busy working two or three jobs to keep themselves and their children clothed and fed.

In general, we no longer live in a society where the husband or the wife earn enough money with one job while the other takes care of the kids and the household. Either both have to work or, even worse, there's no partner, and it's a single mom or dad having to work while the kid or kids are left on their own for most of the time.

What is interesting is that this didn't force a mainstream return of bigger families where grandparents live with their sons and daughters (or siblings moving in) taking care of the kids (resentment issues?). You don't hear or read much of stronger family bonds (traditional, not the freaks on TLC like Sister Wives or the Duggar Family).

It's all part of the middle class being more and more erased. And the kids are physically and mentally abandoned, becoming easy prey for predators and snake oil salesmen.

by Anonymousreply 81March 10, 2022 5:37 PM

“Why do you keep pulling me out of work to deal with this brat? Just teach my goddamn kid!”

by Anonymousreply 82March 10, 2022 5:42 PM

R69 I have to say I was impressed with the equanimity and maturity of Waldorf educated children and teenagers and I respect the philosophy because it actually IS a coherent philosophy, whether or not you agree with its premises. Unfortunately in the U.S. Waldorf self-selects for these children from the beginning being a largely private school method here and attracting parents with the financial means and education to enroll their children in the first place.

I used to think that teaching methods were the key to literacy (as a Montessori kid) but now I think that's almost irrelevant given the gross inequalities in this country. One of the reasons Finland's educational model is so successful is because of the rigidly applied equality between schools. Every school gets the same amount of money and attention, no more, no less. And yes, there are schools in Finland with 50% immigrants and refugees, which is a frequent criticism of using relatively homogenous countries compared to the U.S. The disadvantaged students do well because they get attention--truly no child is left behind. All teachers in Finland have masters degrees, even kindergarten and preschool.

Again, it's the equality of schools that is key--unlike Sweden (which Finland is lumped in with but Finland has better educational outcomes) Finland has NO private schools.

A country needs a tremendous amount of will to accomplish this. Finland decided their motto would be "Whatever it takes".

by Anonymousreply 83March 10, 2022 6:26 PM

The uncomfortable truth is that in the US, education is sabotaged by both the Right Wing (stupid people are more likely to fall for the lies of the Right Wing) and shameless profiteers who treat education like a for-profit business.

by Anonymousreply 84March 10, 2022 7:39 PM

[quote]The uncomfortable truth is that in the US, education is sabotaged by both the Right Wing (stupid people are more likely to fall for the lies of the Right Wing) and shameless profiteers who treat education like a for-profit business.

The uncomfortable truth is that in the US, education is sabotaged by too many parents who don't give a damn about their children, single mothers, absent fathers and so forth.

It all boils down to parents. If there isn't the involvement of parents, if there isn't a respect, a culture of education then those children are going to be handicapped.

That's the uncomfortable truth.

by Anonymousreply 85March 10, 2022 7:46 PM

Black and Latino culture do not respect or prioritize education. To them, education is "white people shit." And no amount of money thrown at the problem is ever going to fix it.

by Anonymousreply 86March 10, 2022 7:48 PM

R86. I know. There is an anti-education mindset in the black community. If this doesn't change they will always be really poor and living in ghettos. A lot of black people think if they just cry racism it will somehow make a difference. Economic security requires an education.

by Anonymousreply 87March 10, 2022 7:51 PM

R86 As opposed to you, Trixie, who spends his days being one of the most frequent race-baiting trolls on DL. You are the very beacon of high intellect and a shining example of a master race.

by Anonymousreply 88March 10, 2022 7:54 PM

Facts be facts r88

by Anonymousreply 89March 10, 2022 8:33 PM

We've become a society that prides itself in anti-intellectualism, so this isn't surprising news.

by Anonymousreply 90March 10, 2022 9:45 PM

R81 I live in a poor area, and the first thing any woman does here when they get pregnant is quit their job, because in my state (Florida) by having a kid, they qualify for Medicaid and a slew of other government programs.

by Anonymousreply 91March 10, 2022 9:47 PM

I think people have too much freedom. I'm not sure being able to spew your every thought to the world was such a good idea. For one thing, the average person has an IQ of 98. That is not very intelligent. These last five years really shocked me. I came to the conclusion that I must have been living in some liberal bubble and never realized how uneducated our population really was. I used to think most people had some sense even if they were not college grads or intellectuals.

by Anonymousreply 92March 10, 2022 10:29 PM

I agree R92 and I think it really drove that point home when 2016 happened.

by Anonymousreply 93March 10, 2022 10:33 PM

Asian children are not falling behind in reading or any other subject.

by Anonymousreply 94March 10, 2022 10:39 PM

[quote] I blame the parents.

And I blame the grandparents who were influenced by the laissez-fair doctrines of Benjamin Spock.

by Anonymousreply 95March 10, 2022 10:52 PM

There are 7 million kids in the U.S. receiving special education; 14%. Now think of those that are no longer in school, those not yet in school and lastly, the adults who were ESE. That’s a large percentage of American people who are special.

by Anonymousreply 96March 10, 2022 11:00 PM

Asian parents really push education R94.

by Anonymousreply 97March 10, 2022 11:01 PM

Not surprised. They keep dumbing down the curriculum to the point they may as well not even have one anymore. Dumb kids today can’t even tell time on a clock with hands or write cursive. And before you dummies say nobody needs those things anymore, it shows that kids are not challenged AT ALL anymore.

by Anonymousreply 98March 10, 2022 11:06 PM

Cursive is good for hand-eye coordination in young kids.

by Anonymousreply 99March 10, 2022 11:12 PM

Probably all the tranny hormones being pumped into children wrecking their brains.

by Anonymousreply 100March 10, 2022 11:20 PM

Cursive is easier to write as well imo....I feel for these kids, the lack of a basic education is going to affect them so badly as adults. The causes seem too numerous to pinpoint. I guess it really does take a village to raise a child.

by Anonymousreply 101March 10, 2022 11:44 PM

[quote] I came to the conclusion that I must have been living in some liberal bubble and never realized how uneducated our population really was. I used to think most people had some sense even if they were not college grads or intellectuals.

I've traveled extensively throughout the US and a lot of it is pretty bleak. Most people don't have much. When you leave the coastal enclaves it really hits you how disparate this country is. Indiana, for example, is an absolute shithole of ignorance.

by Anonymousreply 102March 10, 2022 11:44 PM

R102 I got my BA at Notre Dame. Once you leave the area that surrounds the campus, it's like going to another country.

by Anonymousreply 103March 11, 2022 12:17 AM

Are they behind in other Pennsylvania cities?

by Anonymousreply 104March 11, 2022 12:18 AM

It was Democratic city politics which kept schools closed longer than necessary because the party there is strongly influenced by public teachers unions. It is the same unions that have restricted the development of charter schools. In NYS there is a limit on the number of charters than can be founded. The public school system needs to be greatly reduced and replaced with charters and parochial schools and some highly regulated home schooling. Teachers unions fight this tooth and nail.

But I'm sure Jane and Johnny are well up on gender theory.

by Anonymousreply 105March 11, 2022 12:24 AM

R76, we must read the same subreddits, and I feel the same way. Unfortunately, when someone has a really good write-up, the material is often stolen for somebody’s stupid podcast, often word-for-word.

by Anonymousreply 106March 11, 2022 12:47 AM

Blame the parents.

by Anonymousreply 107March 11, 2022 12:52 AM

[quote]II have not read the entire thread, but as a Waldorf Teacher, I will point out that children *should NOT be reading* at five or six. They are developmentally not ready and it can cause comprehension problems later on.

What a crock of shit. I learned to read at five and both my sons learned to read earlier. One graduated second in his class and the other fourth. They have become lifelong readers, as I am.

As for special ed, don't assume all those children (14%) are behind. That number includes children who are far enough ahead to require advanced teaching.

by Anonymousreply 108March 11, 2022 1:05 AM

R106 Someone who used to do really good write ups over at r/unresolvedmysteries complained that this has happened to them multiple times.

by Anonymousreply 109March 11, 2022 1:53 AM

R108 Waldorf and Montessori are both utter bullshit. They try to aggrandize the shit kids would be doing at home at home anyways and upsell it to rich parents. When my brother was shopping for preschools, he told me the philosophy of one such school: “We don’t just talk about food, we actually have a little kitchen set up where students can work with utensils and bowls and feel dried beans. We have a garden outside where they can grow things.” Uh, ok. They can do that at home with their mom. And actually, my very average public school does that shit too. In the end, my nephew ended up at the public preschool, where kids played outside, where they had plenty of pretend play, and where they grew a bean sprout in a cup. All for $80 a month! And he learned to read and write pretty well before kindergarten thanks to basic kiddie books, a Crayola marker set, index cards and a pack of stickers.

by Anonymousreply 110March 11, 2022 2:16 AM

[quote] And actually, my very average public school does that shit too. In the end, my nephew ended up at the public preschool, where kids played outside, where they had plenty of pretend play, and where they grew a bean sprout in a cup. All for $80 a month!

Eighty bucks a month? Was this Jack and the Bean Stalk Elementary?

by Anonymousreply 111March 11, 2022 2:36 AM

R86: I cannot speak for the Black community, but I know that quite a few people in the Hispanic community, don't like anyone, "getting ahead of themselves". It's the whole, "stay humble" mentality that is brought over by the new batch of people coming to the US.

by Anonymousreply 112March 11, 2022 2:50 AM

R112 I went to school with a lot of Hispanic people (I went to Catholic school in Florida) and saw this a lot, especially regarding girls.

by Anonymousreply 113March 11, 2022 3:12 AM

[quote][R86]: I cannot speak for the Black community

Just let Chris Rock do it, then.

Pure truth:

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by Anonymousreply 114March 11, 2022 3:25 AM

My son is a lazy SOB. I read to him….he wasn’t interested. “Let’s look at the pictures in the book!” No. I don’t think he’s ever read a book. I spent my childhood reading books. Every Saturday I went to the library and picked out a book. I read the encyclopedia when I ran out of books to read. I read the same books over & over because I loved them.

I tried, but he’s lazy. He would never do extra credit questions for homework. “I don’t HAVE to do that and I’m not doing it!” Refused after school activities. His school was filled with newly arrived Spanish speaking kids so he always passed his classes based on a curve, not because of his school work. You can try your best but a kid has his own personality. (Plus he’s adopted, so… at least I know it’s not genetic)

by Anonymousreply 115March 12, 2022 1:05 AM
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