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More British TV Discussion Part II

Have at it!!!

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by Anonymousreply 128June 27, 2022 11:47 PM

Highly recommend a new British detective series on BritBox called "Grace"..

Grace is a British crime drama series based on the bestselling Roy Grace novels by Peter James. The first two novels Dead Simple and Looking Good Dead have been adapted into two feature-length films for ITV starring John Simm as Detective Superintendent Roy Grace in the lead role. The series was written and adapted by Russell Lewis for ITV and premiered on 14 March 2021.The first episode attracted 7.2m viewers, which made it the fifth-most-watched program for the week of 8-14 March, according to BARB.

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by Anonymousreply 1March 7, 2022 7:33 PM

I just got a 7 day free trial for BritBox but it's all Vera and Marple and Poirot and MI5 and stuff I've seen.

What are the best shows on BritBox now? I'm assuming Grace is not there yet, r1.

by Anonymousreply 2March 7, 2022 7:39 PM

Thanks OP.

Over the weekend I watched a new show "Murder In Provence", ITV is one of the producers, it was just okay for me but others might like it.

by Anonymousreply 3March 7, 2022 7:42 PM

Murder in Provence features Nancy Carroll. John Light guest stars in the third episode. Both play regular characters in Father Brown, which are romantically involved.

BritBox has some great murder mystery shows, like Magpie Murders with Leslie Manville as female lead.

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by Anonymousreply 4March 7, 2022 8:02 PM

I liked "Hope Street," which I learned about here.

by Anonymousreply 5March 7, 2022 8:04 PM

I don't think Magpie Murders is available yet in the US :(

by Anonymousreply 6March 8, 2022 12:05 AM

I finally got around to watching Good Omens and LOVED it. It’s really funny. David Tennant and Michael Sheen and even Jon Hamm. A second season is in the works.

by Anonymousreply 7March 8, 2022 2:00 AM

Anyone in the UK (or here) heard anything about the British version of CALL MY AGENT? Is it in production and who is cast?

by Anonymousreply 8March 8, 2022 2:29 AM

R2 - Grace is currently streaming on BritBox. I watched it last weekend. It was very good. Russell Lewis is also the writer for all episodes of Endeavor.

by Anonymousreply 9March 8, 2022 11:55 AM

If you are disappointed in 'The Gilded Age", I highly recommend watching a better Sir Julian Fellowes creation called "Belgravia".

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by Anonymousreply 10March 8, 2022 5:09 PM

Anyone know when the second season of "Van Der Valk" starring Marc Warren is going to be scheduled on PBS? It's already been shown in Australia and some parts of Europe.

by Anonymousreply 11March 8, 2022 5:13 PM

Anyone know when the second season of "Van Der Valk" starring Marc Warren is going to be scheduled on PBS? It's already been shown in Australia and some parts of Europe.

by Anonymousreply 12March 8, 2022 5:13 PM

Anyone know when the second season of "Van Der Valk" starring Marc Warren is going to be scheduled on PBS? It's already been shown in Australia and some parts of Europe.

by Anonymousreply 13March 8, 2022 5:13 PM

Anyone know when the second season of "Van Der Valk" starring Marc Warren is going to be scheduled on PBS? It's already been shown in Australia and some parts of Europe.

by Anonymousreply 14March 8, 2022 5:14 PM

^ Sorry for the repeated posts above. DL said I couldn't post but then my post shows up three times??? WTF? DL is one indecisive bitch.

by Anonymousreply 15March 8, 2022 5:17 PM

R8 Helena Bonham Carter, Kelly Macdonald, Olivia Williams, Phoebe Dynevor, David Oyelowo and Dominic West, Amazon Prime with a release date of around, well now.

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by Anonymousreply 16March 8, 2022 5:19 PM

R11 - After checking three website, I would guess in October 2022.

by Anonymousreply 17March 8, 2022 5:22 PM

R17 - thanks. I'll probably forget everything that happened in the first season.

by Anonymousreply 18March 8, 2022 7:10 PM

Cannot wait for that UK Call My Agent!

My guess is a lot of the episodes will be original stories and even better than the French version.

by Anonymousreply 19March 8, 2022 9:32 PM

Sorry, I was not a fan of Belgravia. It looked good but the storyline was obvious from the start and the characters were cliches. The big reveal was a cop out, everything sorted so nice and cosy. Why write a story that could’ve been written 200 years ago?

by Anonymousreply 20March 9, 2022 1:42 PM

Sanditon Season 2 premiers 20 March 2022 on PBS.

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by Anonymousreply 21March 9, 2022 7:10 PM

A shame that Sanditon is losing Theo James and others, because the actors got cast in other projects when the show was initially canceled.

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by Anonymousreply 22March 9, 2022 7:20 PM

Sadly SANDITON is really subpar Masterpiece Theatre. Without Jane Austen's continued writing as a source, the plot got sillier and sillier and I thought that even with Theo James the first season.

by Anonymousreply 23March 9, 2022 9:41 PM

Sanditon is based on an unfinished novel by Austen. Of course, Austen fans will cut a bitch for anyone daring to finish what Austen couldn't.

by Anonymousreply 24March 9, 2022 10:37 PM

Sanditon = better than average actors, fabulous costume and First Class British real estate porn. I'm all in!

What more could one ask for????

by Anonymousreply 25March 10, 2022 12:48 PM

Better than better than average actors, r25.

by Anonymousreply 26March 10, 2022 12:59 PM

Better plot, too. The first episode of Season 1 used up everything in Austen's Sanditon and then went its own way. I will confess to watching the rest of it, waiting for Theo James and/or Leo Suter to show up. Won't be watching S2.

by Anonymousreply 27March 10, 2022 7:19 PM

Follow the buzz and find the torrent. WTH is wrong with you?

by Anonymousreply 28March 10, 2022 7:21 PM

Sanditon was like Seventeen magazine meets BBC -- just a teenage romance novel on tv. Really bland and silly.

Young Wallender tries hard but is poorly written and the lead actor, a hunky Swede (who played the hunk in Avenue 5, one of the funniest shows ever to hit Brit tv) thinks he's a young Brando, all mumbly-wumbly.

Bulgaria was a nice try but didn't take off -- the only good thing about it is Tamsin Grieg's outstanding performance.

Two older shows that are absolutely superb and worth watching: North and South, which is truly extraordinary, and Bleak House (2005), one of the best Dickens adaptations ever.

by Anonymousreply 29March 10, 2022 7:26 PM

I recently rewatched Cranford and Return to Cranford and still loved them. So I gave Wives and Daughters a go. Hm. It just kinda sat there, except for Francesca Annis's performance as the shallow stepmother, and I could see where the plotlines were going *long* before they got there. Still, nice to see Anthony Howell of Foyle's War in his first TV role, so not a complete waste of time.

by Anonymousreply 30March 10, 2022 7:38 PM

R30

Yes, yes, yes. I love Anthony Howell. I lust after Anthony Howell. He was great in 'Foyle's War.' Everything about 'Foyle's War' was great.

Seems like he's doing a lot of voice work, and he used to do a lot of theater. I don't know why he isn't more famous, or cast more often. Maybe he isn't even going after parts.

Looks like his next project is an animated feature called 'Dragonkeeper' with Bill Nighy and Bill Bailey.

He's 50 years old and never been married. Which is meaningless, but I sure would like him on our team. I've never gotten gay vibes from him; he's just English.

by Anonymousreply 31March 10, 2022 8:52 PM

Anthony Howell earned a degree in architecture at uni.

I learned that from one of those cast interviews from Foyle's War.

by Anonymousreply 32March 27, 2022 2:54 PM

Did Jane Austen get fired from writing for TV?

by Anonymousreply 33March 27, 2022 6:05 PM

This weekend I binged watched Season ! and Season 2 of this show on BritBox. It was really good. I highly recommend.

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by Anonymousreply 34March 28, 2022 6:13 PM

Murder in Provence. This is really good too! Wonderful location settings, great script and witty dialogue.

I love Roger Allam, Nancy Carroll and John Knight is the guest villain in episode 3.

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by Anonymousreply 35March 28, 2022 6:19 PM

Roger Allan plays the same part in every show he's in -- grumpy jowly man who moves like a hippopotamus with hemorrhoids.

by Anonymousreply 36March 29, 2022 2:50 PM

R36 - Allam not "Allan". Autocorrect is a bitch!

by Anonymousreply 37March 29, 2022 3:04 PM

[quote] Roger Allan plays the same part in every show he's in

So? Tons of actors do that. I love Allam.

by Anonymousreply 38March 29, 2022 3:12 PM

Just finished ITV's Holding, written by Graham Norton and directed by Kathy Burke.

It's a bit twee at times, like a Maeve Binchey, about the residents of a small Irish village whose lives haven't really progressed after 20 years. Then some DARK SECRETS are unearthed and a policeman with the body of an underwear model comes to investigate from Cork and takes his clothes off a lot.

It's only 4 episodes so 3 hours max. Dame Brenda Fricker has a small role in it but her scene in episode 3 is quite stunning acting. There's also lesbianism, alcoholism and dairy farming.

by Anonymousreply 39March 29, 2022 3:54 PM

So do I!!!

by Anonymousreply 40March 29, 2022 3:54 PM

R39 - Where can I stream "Holding"??????

R38 - So do I!!!

by Anonymousreply 41March 29, 2022 3:57 PM

Holding is on the ITV hub - I can't link to it for some reason

by Anonymousreply 42March 29, 2022 4:10 PM

R10- I'd rather watch that 0THER drama set in Belgravia-

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by Anonymousreply 43March 29, 2022 4:14 PM

R42 - I did a quick google search for Holding. I do not think Holding has yet been released in the USA. I would bet that it will be available for streaming via BritBox when released in the USA. I really want to see it as I really like Graham Norton.

by Anonymousreply 44March 29, 2022 4:30 PM

Season 2 of Sanditon concluded on Sunday 24 April 2022. What did you think?

I am looking forward to Season 3 of Sanditon.

Season 8 of Endeavor begins in US on PBS Sunday, June 19. Have any DL Brits viewed Series 8 yet as it debuted in the UK on 12 September 2021?

by Anonymousreply 45April 26, 2022 7:33 PM

The Thief, His Wife and The Canoe is very good. Eddie Marsan and Monica Dolan at their best. 3 hours across 4 episodes. Another series on the ITV hub.

I've not watched The Ipcress File yet but it's had good reviews and I still haven't watched Our House with diddy Martin Compston, hairy Tuppence Middleton and shirtless muscled Rupert Penry Jones.

by Anonymousreply 46April 26, 2022 7:39 PM

I have recently become addicted to "Come dine with me" on youtube. I actually first heard about it when watching the french version ("Une dinner presque parfait") a few times in Paris, but the english version is much easier to understand to say the least. It's just fun, but without all the dumb fake drama of american reality t.v Perhaps that's why they tried to do it here and failed.

by Anonymousreply 47April 26, 2022 7:58 PM

Did you talk about "A Very British Scandal?" The first vignette has Hugh Grant as a politician on trial for plotting to kill his gay boyfriend, and the second has Claire Foy and Paul Bettany as the Duke and Duchess of Argylle. Really great, on Amazon.

by Anonymousreply 48April 26, 2022 10:35 PM

[quote] Season 2 of Sanditon concluded on Sunday 24 April 2022. What did you think? I am looking forward to Season 3 of Sanditon.

Yep. I really liked it. They are putting Charlotte through the ringer. But I think much of this is based on the realities of that time. The hero this time is very Austenian. Mysterious but not irredeemable.

by Anonymousreply 49April 26, 2022 11:43 PM

R48 - Watched both of them. I thought a Very English Scandal with High Grant was better than A Very British Scandal with Claire Foy.

However, both shows are worth a watch or two as I watched each series two times.

by Anonymousreply 50April 27, 2022 12:38 PM

I love Endeavour, especially for Roger Allam and Anton Lessor.

by Anonymousreply 51April 27, 2022 12:49 PM

Are we including Heartstoppers as a British TV show?

by Anonymousreply 52April 27, 2022 2:33 PM

I’m currently watching the second series of Gentleman Jack. It’s great fun because the real Anne Lister was such a character. I can’t help but feel that the way she treated her conquests made her a lesbian chauvinist pig.

by Anonymousreply 53April 27, 2022 2:43 PM

I've always wanted to love ENDEAVOUR as I adore the cast and the original mysteries by Colin Dexter. But the plotting in the series is mostly outrageously awful. They deserve better.

Sanditon's S2 seems improved, just from a glance at last week's episode....can anyone confirm?

Has anyone been watching Nicola Walker's new detective series ANNIKA, currently on PBS Passport? It's actually not bad and she's always interesting to watch. Each "whodunnit" is wrapped up at the end of the 50 or so minutes so the series becomes more about Annika and her daughter and co-workers, who are all wonderfully cast.

by Anonymousreply 54April 27, 2022 4:26 PM

The first season of Sanditon was basically Seventeen Magazine meets Romance Novels. Just a waste of time, watching that insipid woman utterly charm everyone around her without displaying an iota of charm.

by Anonymousreply 55April 27, 2022 5:13 PM

Take that back, R55. I love me some Charlotte. She was young and inexperienced and had no idea what she was doing to men. Especially with big natural boobs and a guilelessness.

by Anonymousreply 56April 28, 2022 1:38 AM

Princess Charlotte?

by Anonymousreply 57April 28, 2022 2:06 AM

Have any Brit DLers seen the new series (season) of Grantchester. I read something on the internet stating that Will Davenport get married????? I do not like the idea of Will Davenport getting married with regards to storyline of the series. The Vicar needs to be single for the show to work!

by Anonymousreply 58April 28, 2022 1:59 PM

I think I agree with you, R58. Unmarried characters make better fantasy idols. I do like this Vicar.

by Anonymousreply 59April 28, 2022 6:23 PM

Just watched the first 2 episodes of the new British version of Ten Percent. I liked it but couldn't quite decide if it wasn't quite up to the French version because the plotting and characters were so similar and thus there was little surprise or if the familiarity of some of the Brit actors made the characters less interesting....or what. But I'll keep watching, Good cast over all and wonderful shots of London.

by Anonymousreply 60April 30, 2022 3:13 AM

Highly recommend "Signora Volpe" on ACORN TV.

It reminds me a lot of "Murder in Provence" except that it is not as light hearted and the language is both English and Italian (with English subtitles). "Signora Volpe" is produced (showrunners) by the team that brings you the current incarnation of "Midsomer Murders". I am pleasantly surprised at how much I like "Signora Volpe" just as I was pleasantly surprised with "The Chelsea Detective".

by Anonymousreply 61May 23, 2022 1:02 PM

My friend and I gave up on A Very British Scandall season 2 in the middle of the first episode. We both thought it was predictable, but had different ideas of where it would go. He thought she was gay, I thought she had a child out of wedlock.

I would ask which of us was right, but neither of us cared that much.

by Anonymousreply 62May 23, 2022 1:57 PM

Season 3 of London Kills premiered 06 June 2022 on Acorn TV. All five episodes dropped on 06 June 2022.

Grace Season 2 premiers 21 June 2022 0n BritBox.

by Anonymousreply 63June 8, 2022 6:40 PM

Professor T -- the English version -- is not nearly good as Professor T -- the Belgian version. The latter is absolutely excellent, the former doesn't work nearly as well partly because Ben Miller overplays his role, making it seem almost like a parody of someone acting as someone who's on the spectrum - and because it's too politically correct. The Belgian version has better acting and they don't give a crap about correctness.

by Anonymousreply 64June 8, 2022 7:33 PM

Is anyone watching "Becoming Elizabeth" on Starz??? Tom Cullen is pretty hot.

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by Anonymousreply 65June 21, 2022 2:52 PM

I can watch 2012 and W1A over and over. The scripts (especially for W1A) are brilliant.

by Anonymousreply 66June 21, 2022 4:45 PM

[quote]I can watch 2012 and W1A over and over. The scripts (especially for W1A) are brilliant.

You'll enjoy 10 Percent, adapted from Call My Agent by John Morton who is responsible for both.

There isn't anyone quite as outstanding as Anna Rampton but it's very well odne.

by Anonymousreply 67June 21, 2022 4:56 PM

10 Percent? I don't want that.

(Sorry, I had to. I don't mean to be funny, but Anna Rampton is my favorite character, but I usually talk more like Tracey Pritchard.)

by Anonymousreply 68June 21, 2022 9:35 PM

All of those women on W1A are brilliant!

by Anonymousreply 69June 21, 2022 9:39 PM

My hubby has one of those internet attachments that allows him (well, he pays for it) to watch current UK television and we're currently watching a great new mystery mini-series called SHERWOOD with Lesley Manville, Joanne Frogatt and a host of familiar Brit actors. It had a slow start (it's about a current village murder that might have origins in the 1980s miners' strikes) but by E3 is deeply engaging. Kind of similar vibe to BROADCHURCH where the investigation unearths all sorts of dirty secrets. Anyone else watching it? I imagine it will show up on Masterpiece Mystery next year.

by Anonymousreply 70June 21, 2022 9:45 PM

The new PBS series on Masterpiece Theatre PORTOFINO is absolutely dreadful!

by Anonymousreply 71June 21, 2022 9:45 PM

The moving BBC miniseries Four Lives (about the gay serial killer) is now on Britbox. It’s been retitled The Barking Murders.

by Anonymousreply 72June 22, 2022 12:16 AM

R71 - From what I have seen, episodes 1&2, I must agree with you. I find the actors well cast, the acting better than average but the script so far is very weak and the production values are very bottom of the barrel budget.

by Anonymousreply 73June 22, 2022 1:18 PM

[quote]10 Percent? I don't want that. (Sorry, I had to. I don't mean to be funny, but Anna Rampton is my favorite character, but I usually talk more like Tracey Pritchard.)

There were actually complaints in Wales about Monica Dolan's accent. Admittedly The Welsh complain about pretty much everything but I always thought she was very convincing. Tracey Pritchard sounded halfway between Bridgend and Neath to me, possibly having a mother from Port Talbot.

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by Anonymousreply 74June 22, 2022 1:37 PM

I was disappointed with the British 10 Percent. The British do “cheeky” very well and there’s zero “cheeky” in the show. Maggie Steed is the only one in the show that is worth watching.

Plus, who are these stars playing clients? They couldn’t get those actresses who are in every other damn show: Keeley Hawes, Nicola Walker, Olivia Colman? Imelda Staunton shows up for a supermarket opening. And her husband, Jim Carter, could have really turned in an excellent performance as one of the clients.

And the assistants are fugly. They chose the worst looking actors. In the French version, the assistants were decent looking people.

by Anonymousreply 75June 22, 2022 1:54 PM

Your review, r75, is spot on! I was severely disappointed by the Brit 10 Percent. They really should have just used the talent agency as a spring board and done more original scripts instead of pale imitations of the French. As for the guest stars, I would assume they asked all the actors you mention but they all had the (rare) good sense to pass.

by Anonymousreply 76June 22, 2022 2:04 PM

Slow Horses is good. Gary Oldman does good work. I want to read the books.

by Anonymousreply 77June 22, 2022 2:14 PM

R74, I had no idea Tracey is supposed to be Welsh. (I have no idea what Welsh sounds like.) I just assumed she was from someplace up north like Liverpool or Scotland.

Actually she sounds a lot like Terry Jones 'drag characters in Monty Python.

by Anonymousreply 78June 22, 2022 2:28 PM

Welsh accent.

Monica Dolan’s job was to be funny, not to do a documentary on the Welsh accent.

The US equivalent is when someone does a corny Southern accent as if they are a hillbilly.

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by Anonymousreply 79June 22, 2022 2:34 PM

I am guessing that this show might be better for Americans because being ignorant, we have no baggage.

by Anonymousreply 80June 22, 2022 3:09 PM

[quote]Monica Dolan’s job was to be funny, not to do a documentary on the Welsh accent. The US equivalent is when someone does a corny Southern accent as if they are a hillbilly.

There have been some hilarious Welsh accents over the years. Stephen Graham's accent in White House Farm was hilariously bad.

Rachel Griffiths tried her best in Very Annie Mary, and she sounded like a native compared to Brenda Blethyn and Naomi Watts in Plots With A View/Undertaking Betty. Naomi sounded like she was Vietnamese. Keira Knighley and Sienna Miller were ok in The Edge Of Love.

Most of the Pride accents were quite poor. Andrew Scott in particular.

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by Anonymousreply 81June 22, 2022 4:23 PM

Graham is a cunt. I know firsthand from being on the set of Boardwalk Empire.

by Anonymousreply 82June 22, 2022 6:09 PM

Watched "Grace" Episode 1 of Season 2 last night on BritBox. It was worth the watch but not as good as season 1. Hope the new episodes of Season 2 get better.

by Anonymousreply 83June 24, 2022 11:50 AM

Lesley Manville has joined Keeley Hawes, Olivia Colman, Sarah Lancashire and Nicola Walker as "that middle aged actress who's in everything."

by Anonymousreply 84June 24, 2022 1:44 PM

[quote]Lesley Manville has joined Keeley Hawes, Olivia Colman, Sarah Lancashire and Nicola Walker as "that middle aged actress who's in everything."

But at least Lesley Manville can act!

The scary matriarch

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by Anonymousreply 85June 24, 2022 8:16 PM

Lesley Manville can act.

The needy friend.

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by Anonymousreply 86June 24, 2022 8:16 PM

Lesley also has the feature film of Mrs. 'arris Goes to Paris coming soon to a theatre near you.

by Anonymousreply 87June 24, 2022 8:32 PM

She’ll also be Princess Margaret in the next season of The Crown but I wish it had been Francesca Annis, instead. Annis really does look like Margaret and certainly can act.

by Anonymousreply 88June 24, 2022 9:43 PM

True r88, but Francesca Annis is 77 years old. And by the time they finished filming two seasons, she would be pushing 80. She’d look too old for what they want Margaret to look like.

by Anonymousreply 89June 24, 2022 11:30 PM

R89, I think Margaret will be dead by the conclusion of Season 5, though,

by Anonymousreply 90June 25, 2022 2:37 AM

Each season depicts about a ten year period, give or take.. I think Diana’s infamous BBC interview in 1995 will be around the second or third episode into the season and the finale will conclude in 2002 when Margaret dies, leaving Elizabeth without her beloved sister. Margaret’s death will have to be treated as a significant moment for Elizabeth so it will most likely be the centerpiece of the finale. Otherwise it would have to be rushed early in Season 6 and that wouldn’t be appropriate considering Margaret’s important function in this series.

by Anonymousreply 91June 25, 2022 4:10 AM

Lesley Manville is one of those actors who is always brilliant but never really got her big break despite the PTA getting her an Oscar nom for Phantom Thread.

Quite funny that she was nominated the same year her ex husband and father of her kids Gary Oldman won.

And it's even funnier that she played Uma Thurman in the original stage production of Dangerous Liaisons and is now playing Glenn Close in a tv series of it.

by Anonymousreply 92June 25, 2022 7:41 AM

R45 Watched Season 8 ENDEAVOR. Fell asleep. Husband liked it well enough. Shaun Evans looks rough. Strange has lost so much weight he doesn't look like the same actor. Allam looks exactly the same.

by Anonymousreply 93June 25, 2022 9:53 AM

I have discovered Dinnerladies. I saw an interview with Jennifer Saunders where she talks about the “brilliance” of the “late” Victoria Wood, who I’d never heard of. Went down a rabbit hole and discovered both seasons of Dinnerladies, which she created and starred in, are on YouTube. It’s a cute show in that “British sitcom” kind of way. Lots of familiar British faces: Celia Imrie, Julie Walters, Anne Reid, Maxine Peake, etc.

I am a big follower of British tv and performers, but somehow I totally missed Victoria Wood.

by Anonymousreply 94June 25, 2022 9:56 AM

Last week I rewatched the first season of HAPPY VALLEY. It was just as good the second time around.

by Anonymousreply 95June 25, 2022 9:58 AM

I keep hoping that if Broadway attempts a revival of Mame, they’ll get Sarah Lancashire to do it. Many Americans knew her from Happy Valley, but even more now know her from the Julia Child tv series.

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by Anonymousreply 96June 25, 2022 12:24 PM

That season premiere of ENDEAVOUR was deadly! The plot machinations were impossible to follow. I think Roger Allam was rolling his eyes in every scene he appeared in. This better be the final season.

I wish we could watch HAPPY VALLEY S1 here in the US again but it doesn't seem to be streaming anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 97June 25, 2022 2:01 PM

Happy Valley is available for streaming from Amazon

by Anonymousreply 98June 25, 2022 2:07 PM

OMG, thanks, r98. Obviously, I hadn't checked there recently.

by Anonymousreply 99June 25, 2022 2:09 PM

Victoria Wood was certainly talented but I found her stand-up routines to be extremely cutesy. But that was what charmed her to British audiences in the first place. Her comedy was “cozy” at a time when most of it wasn’t.

by Anonymousreply 100June 25, 2022 2:19 PM

I watched Happy Valley for free on Tubi. It had commercials, but it wasn’t too bad.

by Anonymousreply 101June 25, 2022 2:22 PM

I’ve only seen a few episodes of Morse, didn’t like his character as played by John Thaw. I love Endeavour though, mostly for Roger Allam. I don’t see a connection between the Morse character and the Endeavour character re personality. The Jag, the classical references, the opera and now the house, sure, but I don’t see an older, embittered Endeavour behaving like Morse.

by Anonymousreply 102June 25, 2022 4:14 PM

R102

I'm with you. I loved 'Endeavour' even when it was convoluted and the plot intricacies were way over my head. But like you, having watched every episode of 'Morse', I have never seen or felt the connection to John Thaw's 'Morse'. You can put up the obvious clues, as they have, but 1+2+3 doesn't equal 5.

I wonder how much I stick with 'Endeavour' because I love Roger Allam and his character Thursday. But then, I love everything Roger Allam does. And Thursday doesn't appear in 'Morse', so he's a goner in some fashion before the end of the series.

And though I said that I stuck with it despite convoluted plots, I'm disappointed that it appears this season has upped the ante.

by Anonymousreply 103June 25, 2022 4:51 PM

R100, I went to see a Victoria Wood live show at what was a very dark time in my life. It was the best £20 I have ever spent. I laughed so much and I walked out of the theatre feeling much lighter. Things didn’t seem quite so bleak. I was so sad when she died.

by Anonymousreply 104June 25, 2022 8:32 PM

On Endeavour it's like they have to complicate the plots to mask all the bad writing.

The original Morse mystery books (and the tv series to some extent) were extremely complicated and twisty but so brilliantly written, you didn't care who did it in the end because the journey through the story was so engaging.

by Anonymousreply 105June 25, 2022 9:12 PM

I really should have mentioned the incomparable Anton Lesser on 'Endeavour'.. i would watch him read the proverbial phone book.

Is Anton Lesser ever less than brilliant in anything he does?

So I can be happy just watching him and Roger Allam. I am never conscious of either of them acting. They just disappear into the character and the scene.

by Anonymousreply 106June 25, 2022 9:25 PM

John Thaw, while not handsome, had a sexy daddy vibe about him.

Shaun Evans looks like he wandered in from a Lord of the Rings casting call.

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by Anonymousreply 107June 26, 2022 12:32 AM

R104, this was just posted.

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by Anonymousreply 108June 26, 2022 12:54 AM

Totally agree about John Thaw's sexiness, certainly in the early years of the original series.

But Anton Lesser?? Love him for what he does but he's exactly the same in everything, always looking desiccated, smoking a fag.

by Anonymousreply 109June 26, 2022 1:14 AM

John Castle was one sexy motherfucker.

by Anonymousreply 110June 26, 2022 1:23 AM

Oh, yes, John Castle! First introduced to him as the police detective in the Joan Hickson/Miss Marple A Murder Is Announced (best Agatha Christie ever filmed for TV IMHO) and then delighted by his lead performance as the roguish music hall magician in the British series Lost Empires opposite a young Colin Firth.

Only then to realize that I saw him years before all that as Prince John (the middle brother) in The Lion in Winter.

by Anonymousreply 111June 26, 2022 1:40 AM

Grantchester has become a soap opera. All the vicar does is smoke, drink and have sex.

by Anonymousreply 112June 26, 2022 1:51 AM

Grantchester has always been like that. It was never good. Robson Green always slummed and smoked his way through every episode.

WHET James Norton's career? Wasn't he being touted as the next James Bond, among other things??

by Anonymousreply 113June 26, 2022 2:09 AM

I just finished the first US episode of season 8 of Endeavour, Striker. I don't watch the British mysteries for the glory of their storytelling. They're actually pretty bad. I do enjoy the performances of the three main characters. I hope PBS will carry Shaun Evans' next series.

by Anonymousreply 114June 26, 2022 2:22 AM

James Norton is doing fine. He is filming Season 3 of Happy Valley.

by Anonymousreply 115June 26, 2022 2:22 AM

I took me a couple seasons to warm up to Anton Lessor but now he’s right up there with Roger Allam.

The Striker episode, it opened with the football game and two pickpockets in an alleyway divvying up their loot (I guess, it all happened so fast) and Thursday comes up behind them to arrest them. But first he starts beating one up. Then it cut to another scene and it was never mentioned again. Thursday has occasionally roughed up someone, he’s old school, but because it wasn’t referenced in the rest of the episode, I wonder if it’s setting up Something for the finale. Something pertaining to Thursday and the fact that he was Never Mentioned in Morse.

by Anonymousreply 116June 26, 2022 12:15 PM

R116

Well, Thursday has no money with which to retire, no wife, and no family. He was set to retire from the force and it is really unclear whether he remained on the force for the the greater good, or for the paycheck.

Something is definitely up. For a while we thought it was going to be suicide, but it may be as a result of his bad actions which is more likely and easier to script.

No cheese and pickle could do in any mortal.

Or, maybe it WILL be suicide and that accounts partially for Morse's general bitterness and cynicism. If they get a good writer, the darkness of Thursday's suicide and all its implications could be masterly.

by Anonymousreply 117June 26, 2022 12:36 PM

Nurse Barbara from Call The Midwife is now on Grantchester and she’s got her eyes on the vicar!

by Anonymousreply 118June 27, 2022 12:03 AM

He’s back with his wife, the son is in Northern Ireland in the Army (and the IRA is a threat), the daughter has gotten over whatever snit she had with her life. True, he’s lost all his savings but he will have a pension. He dabbled in the dark side two seasons ago with those crooked cops but that’s all done with. He’s always been a very steady character; neurotic Morse is more likely to commit suicide.

I can’t imagine the writers coming up with a plausible scenario in the two remaining episodes (which have already been shown in the UK) so my guess —and hope— is that they just forget the continuity.

by Anonymousreply 119June 27, 2022 12:16 AM

Last night’s show was much more straightforward until it got to the business with the clock hands being signal flags code in Welsh and I hadn’t picked up on the accent.

Didn’t Strange look good in that tux.

by Anonymousreply 120June 27, 2022 9:37 AM

R95 - Where did you watch "Happy Valley"? I have not been able to find it on any streaming service I have access to.

by Anonymousreply 121June 27, 2022 1:22 PM

R106 - Roger Allam is once again above brilliant in the new BritBox original series "Murder in Provence" co-starring Nancy Carroll. Allam and Carroll have fantastic chemistry. Scripts are very well written.

by Anonymousreply 122June 27, 2022 1:28 PM

It has been announced that there will be one more season of Endeavor. Endeavour will conclude with Season 9.

by Anonymousreply 123June 27, 2022 1:34 PM

R121

You can watch it on Amazon Prime. Check also the services below.

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by Anonymousreply 124June 27, 2022 2:23 PM

After watching Happy Valley, I had to look up Sarah Lancashire's resume, and have watched almost everything she's done. She's just a fantastic actress. Loved her in Last Tango in Halifax, and of course Julia. I'm sort of obsessed with her.

by Anonymousreply 125June 27, 2022 2:41 PM

I watched Happy Valley for free on Tubi. It had commercials, but it wasn’t too bad.

by Anonymousreply 126June 27, 2022 11:13 PM

R125, same. I even found an episode (it’s divided into three parts) of Murder Most Horrid where she stars with Dawn French.

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by Anonymousreply 127June 27, 2022 11:15 PM

I agree that Allam and Nancy Carroll (from Father Brown) were wonderful together in Murder in Provence, (and Patricia “the barricades of ‘68” Hodge too)…the plotting was so-so, but the direction was terrible. I hope they do a new series and really put some money into it.

by Anonymousreply 128June 27, 2022 11:47 PM
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