I’m More attracted to straight guys

We know, you're the equivalent of the straight guy who stalks lesbians.

Yes. All gay men are girls deep down. There are no pure tops like straight men. All tops can be flipped and would embrace being bottoms.

Welcome to the club!

Hot take, OP. Especially around these parts.

You’re not special OP. I hear a gay guy each day say something similar. It’s normal

And in other breaking news, water is wet 🙄

Unless you hate yourself, that statement should have a lot of caveats.

A lot (and i mean A LOT) of straight men are not attractive. And a lot of gay men are very attractive. You can have a fem or masculine one.

And I know some men who have NEVER bottomed and have no desire to do so.

But that is one thing gay men need to get over. So what if a man has taken a dick up his ass. That does not make him any less a man. It doesn't make him less masculine. If it it was done voluntarily, it just makes him gay. If you are a gay man pursuing someone who is not gay (or perhaps bi), seek help. That is not healthy.

And FYI, a guy who identifies as "straight" doesn't want sex with another man. Translation: He doesn't want you!

When I was in my early twenties and enduring my 3rd or 4th heavy crush on a straight guy, a very good friend (a decade older) remarked that crushing on straight guys is a sign of immaturity that I'd eventually outgrow. I thought he was nuts. Fast forward to several years later, more comfort in my own skin, and some relationships with other gay men in the rearview, and I now totally get what he meant. At some point you have to figure out what is driving it, and it's not "they're so naturally butch." There's usually a lot of projection, self-protection ("if I feel rejected, it's because he's straight- not because he's rejecting me for real"), and a bunch of other bullshit.

Straight men are not attracted to you, OP, and never will be.

Agreed, R8.

I had thought that the constant crushing on straight guys was something gay guys outgrew once they left their twenties behind.

Then I discovered this place.

Your crush on straight guys is probably because they are available. Go to the nearest gay bar and meet other gays.

Of course. Who do young gaylings first fall in love with, answer not the Gay Gayersons and that carries on throughout life. They just settle for Gay Gayerson or try to pretend that Butch Butcherson would be straight if he wasn't under the spell of that one particular bussy.

I’d also like to mention that many young straight-identifying men these days, partic the Gen Z crowd, aren’t exactly the most “masculine” bunch. A gay friend remarked a few years ago that he’s noticing the trend moving the other way (more gay guys reliably exhibiting the more stereotypical masculine characteristics). Notwithstanding that many gays take it to the level of self-parody or caricature - I think overall he’s probably correct.

I believe him now.

R7 you have some very solid points. But allow me to point out some caveats out of your caveats

First, gay men are overall more attractive, no doubt. But they tend to groom themselves excessively in a way straight men wouldn't do and are much more anxious about their looks. Also in the gay community, there is a cult of masculinity that is so plastic and over the top. It's not straight men's sense of being naturally masculine There is a fine line between the two.

Second, I know some gay men who claim to be strict tops. But many of them also flipped once they meet someone who they really like and happens to be interested in their "culo". Quite a few of them became strict bottoms later.

I just want to justify op's stand. Admit it, there is an unique appeal of the straight men.

That's nice dear. I salute your bravery and your unique contribution to this board.

OP- I'm more attracted to Straight ACTING guys.

Straight guys are hotter.

[quote] OP- I'm more attracted to Straight ACTING guys.

Unicorns don’t exist.

This is why many gays pretend to be bi. It makes them more appealing. Being gay is not a high status thing.

R18- I was having sex with a guy and in order to give him the fantasy- When he asked me if I was or had been married to a woman I said yes.

[Quote]But allow me to point out some caveats out of your caveats

R14 But those are not caveats. It sounds like bickering just for the sake of bickering. I wasn't talking in absolutes. I merely discussed my perspective from my experiences. There is nothing to bicker about. You don't know me or what my experiences has been. Why even mention me?

[Quote]Also in the gay community, there is a cult of masculinity that is so plastic and over the top. It's not straight men's sense of being naturally masculine There is a fine line between the two.

If you think gay men cannot be naturally masculine then I suggest you get out more. Stop listening to the self hate that mainstream society feeds gays every day.

[Quote]I know some gay men who claim to be strict tops. But many of them also flipped

Ok, so what is your point? Men can't flip? They all have a dick and an ass. Why not? Just because some flip, doesn't mean all do. And why does it even matter if he had a dick in his ass before? So what? Does it matter if he liked it or not? I know some bottoms that do it because they don't want to top and psychologically like to be the "bottom" in the relationship. They don't do it because they like getting fucked. So being fucked, not being fucked, liking it, or not liking it are all things that simply do not matter. They are gay. Gay men flip. And let me fill you in on a little secret, some "straight guys" have their wives and girlfriends shove dildos and vibraters up their ass. We can "whatabout" this to death.

Make your own statements if you feel you have something meaningful to say. You don't need to "caveat" mine.

R5 that’s nice. I’m sure the OP is relieved to know he isn’t special and you hear gay guys say the same thing all the time.

Straight guys seem more "laid back" because they don't want to fuck you, OP.

OP If you are attracted to "straight" guys then for your sake, I hope you are a woman or a post-op transwoman because he is horrified by your penis!

He is about as attracted to that junk between your legs as you are to your Nana's dried up old cooter!

Then you are a perfectly normal woman, Miss OP!

R7 / R8 I think many gay men do themselves a disservice by not owning their masculine and feminine energy. I understand there are some men who are attracted to men they know are unattainable, and that is its own complex, but there’s a more generic explanation these days: a lot of gay men act like straight women.

If masculinity turns you on, you will naturally be attracted to men who give off a more masculine vibe. I’m friends with a guy in my building on Facebook. He’s not the most attractive guy, but he posted himself working on an oil rig with a cut off shirt, hard hat, shades, and dirty jeans and boots and he looked, well, kinda hot. He also had a video where some piece of machinery was vibrating and seeing his arms and pecs jumping while keeping it steady was kinda doing it for me.

Bump

They think you're a creepy homo. :)

Have fun chasing them around like a hungry ghost that can never eat.

R27 some of them think it’s creepy, but others LOVE the attention and eat it all up.

👆 Famous final words before the restraining order is issued.

[quote] but others LOVE the attention and eat it all up.

Yeah, I'm sure they can't get enough of you.

It's no surprise you're buzzing around this stale turd of a thread.

You don’t have to be self-hating to prefer straight men. The unfortunate thing about straight pref is, built into it is a lack of reciprocity. A truly straight man is not going to want you back. A more fluid “straightish” guy is not going to have the qualities you adore and desire.

R31 I don’t want reciprocation. It doesn’t bother me that all of the sex would be one-way. That’s part of the appeal. The power dynamic is part of the turn on for me.

I like masculine men. But I also like them to be gay.

I've had no issue finding both of those qualities in the men in my life. (It helps that I possess them too.)

[quote]It doesn’t bother me that all of the sex would be one-way.

Saying "would" shows that all this sex is just happening in your head. Has it ever occurred to you, DeFacto, that if your views on gay sex were less rigid and dogmatic, then you might actually, y'know, find someone to have sex with?

R34 yeah, I would have to compromise. Nobody finds a man who meets all their criteria.

But I have no idea how I would meet a guy, let alone one who meets any of my criteria. I’m against “hooking up” so apps are out, and I can’t go to gay bars because I’m a recovering alky.

So the sex is probably going to continue to just be in my mind.

"So the sex is probably going to continue to just be in my mind."

True, DF. I mean, why should sex be any different than most everything else in your life?

Oh my

I totally agree. And I think a lot of gay men are in denial about this to appear as « politically correct » but straight men are what we want. Their masculinity and sheer appeal is usually unmatched by gays.

R38- I don't need to drool over straight guys but I've always found straight sounding and appearing gay guys attractive.

I'm talking about slim guys not muscular and guys who are on the masculine side but not dripping with masculinity.

Slim , cool guys are best- for me.

Why do they have to be straight guys.

I'm perfectly satisfied being attracted to straight ACTING guys.

OP, are you a masochist? Straight men like women. If you pursue them you are likely to get a sore face for your trouble. Maybe you like that.

Is that why so many gay guys are single? We just don’t date each other. If you’re gonna date a gay guy, might as well date a woman.

Gay men that think all gay men are fem are usually the kind of guy that repels men. Either crazy, obese or way too over the top.