I binge watched the entire Maude series recently
I enjoy classic TV shows so I wanted to watch the whole series. Some of it was downright cringy. It occurred to me that Bea Arthur’s character was basically like half the people on social media. She was so pathetically desperate to virtue signal her “good” thoughts on race that she was blinded to her own ignorance. She thought that she understood the plight of the black community when she clearly didn’t. And in the earlier seasons she insisted that her maid had to be black. Because, I guess black people are only good for menial jobs? It was so odd.
Overall, I enjoyed the show, and I do understand that it was groundbreaking, and it was a product of its time. But still, Maude’s views on race were bizarre to say the least.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 13, 2022 2:26 PM
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"Carol, what did I want with his power tools?"
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 4, 2022 5:42 PM
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We watched it early in lockdown and it started off wonderfully and became so terrible. I loved the episode in which she hosted a fundraiser for a black political radical and didn't have any non-white friends to invite. Eventually we reached a point where we wanted fewer Very Special Episodes about Walter and more appearances from Adrienne Barbeau, who just sort of disappeared.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 4, 2022 5:47 PM
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[quote] She was so pathetically desperate to virtue signal her “good” thoughts on race that she was blinded to her own ignorance
That was the point, wasn’t it?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 13, 2022 5:43 AM
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God is going to get me (Walter) for this but Rue McClahan looked 60 since Maude.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 13, 2022 5:52 AM
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“Maude” was better than “The Golden Girls” and certainly “All in the Family”. Bea really shined in it.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 13, 2022 7:01 AM
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R5 and she was totally forgettable on Maude too. She was born to play Blanche Devereaux.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 13, 2022 7:01 AM
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OP - Why did you put yourself through that!
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 13, 2022 7:07 AM
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OP, Carol Burnette parodied MAUDE as BROAD, pretty much lampooning ultra-white liberals.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 9 | March 13, 2022 7:29 AM
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God'll get you for that, OP.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 13, 2022 7:35 AM
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They were all so Maude-lin.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 13, 2022 12:10 PM
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I just saw the first two seasons. Season one was not very good, but season two was fantastic.
Beatrice Arthur was astonishingly good in season two and the writing was strong. In a 70s sitcom format is somehow managed to hit some complex emotional territory.
And it was very funny.
I thought we had good comedy on television today, but little of it rises to this level.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 13, 2022 2:11 PM
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The character of Maude was based on Norman Lear's wife, Frances Lear. Read her book, The Second Seduction. Frances was an out-of-wedlock baby, born to a mother who gave her up for adoption. Her adoptive mother was a horror story. This poor woman really lived a hellish life. The character of Maude reflects Mrs. Lear's politics but seemed to be more kindly, upbeat and optimistic.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 13, 2022 2:17 PM
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OP, you're right, and that was very much part of the point. Norman Lear wanted Maude to have faults, as well, and she was, indeed, often a well meaning "limousine liberal" of her day, a woman who was generally a decent person, but could be awkward about how little she had in common with those she supported.
Just as an asshole like Archie Bunker had some decent spots, so an intelligent, decent woman like Maude would have her weaknesses.
The Mrs. Dubonnet episode early on is a great example of the awkwardness Maude could create when she tried to assume that she was the white saviour. I never found it "odd," it was literally a comment on the type of person she was. It can be jarring to compare to our 2022 sensibilities, but in the 1970s whites and blacks were in some cases really interacting and living and working together in new ways that hadn't been very frequent before, so Maude was a way to show the pitfalls of being that well meaning, arm's length liberal - and though I loathe the term and find it overused, I'm sure there's some shared DNA between Maude and a "virtue signaling" person of the 21st c.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 13, 2022 2:22 PM
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As for the show itself....I loved it - the first few seasons were the strongest.
Like "Designing Women" it had a very specific focus in its earlier seasons and turned to more broad comedy as time went on.
But it probably should have ended with Season 4 or so. After Mrs. Naugatuck left they were really running on fumes. But many good episodes before that.
Yes, it did have a tinge of the "very special episode" flavor from time to time, but that's to be expected from any show in the 1970s. If it were out today, Maude would have probably been a dramedy or a streaming show, of course.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 13, 2022 2:26 PM
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