Female Journalist "Why I HATE My Husband - But Will Never Divorce Him"
Prominent US journalist has shocked fans by revealing she “hates” her husband — but insists she has no plans to divorce him.
Heather Havrilesky, 51, makes the bombshell confession in her new book “Foreverland: On the Divine Tedium of Marriage” (Ecco) — likening her spouse of 16 years to “a pointy Lego brick underfoot,” “a smelly heap of laundry” and a “snoring heap of meat.”
“you’ll still wake up every morning wondering why you signed on to drag this wretched, snoring heap of meat with you everywhere you go until the day you die”. She concludes that anyone embarking on lifelong cohabitation is “a true masochist”.
Havrilesky, however, insists Bill is unbothered by her revelations. “He’s very nice, but he really doesn’t care about what others think about him. The story he’s most embarrassed about is our engagement story. He cringes because when we finally got engaged, he said, ‘As you know, we’ve known each other a long time now’, which was not super-relaxed and human-like of him. The only thing Bill’s ever said in terms of an adjustment to what I’ve written is, ‘You’re making me look better than I am.’ He is a saint and by the end of the book he seems a hero, he’s definitely the most loveable person in the picture, which is accurate. I’m just very intolerant. So I find him annoying in a way that normal people wouldn’t.
“I hate it when people say their husband is their best friend, but he is my best friend, my therapist and my mother in one,” she cooed.
Ultimately, Havrilesky says, it’s precisely the fact that two humans choose to stick together in the face of “untold drudgery, monotony, frustration” that makes marriage such a special institution. “I think it’s a hopeful book, a romantic book,” she says. “But at the same time there’s no doubt marriage is a harrowing adventure.”
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 113 | March 3, 2022 11:27 PM
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He is likely aware it is a career move on her part and is playing along.
Oversharing gets clicks.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 2, 2022 6:09 PM
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I respect her brutal honesty and I guarantee a lot of married people feel the same way.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 2, 2022 6:09 PM
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What a bitch! I pity her husband.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 2, 2022 6:09 PM
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R2- Yes, but to put that out publicly? That was cruel.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 2, 2022 6:10 PM
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I’ve read her work over the years and she seems like a real pill.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 2, 2022 6:13 PM
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I would pamper and serve him.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 2, 2022 6:16 PM
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OP, we're gonna need a better pic to judge nipple placement.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 2, 2022 6:18 PM
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Imagine having to wake up to that every morning.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 2, 2022 6:18 PM
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I think she cribbed that from Kathleen's Turner's hilarious blast at Michael Douglas in "War of the Roses" ...
Heather looks a bit like a mix of Kirstin Davis & G
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 9 | March 2, 2022 6:23 PM
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I'd take him off her hands any day.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 2, 2022 6:23 PM
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Smell you, duchess. Thank god she's perfect.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 2, 2022 6:26 PM
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If the guy in OP's picture is her husband, PLEASE send him my way!! I want to floss my teeth with this chest hair . . .
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 2, 2022 6:28 PM
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Hubby has great feet.
I bet she's never even touched them.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 2, 2022 6:31 PM
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Maybe she's a closeted self-hating lez.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 2, 2022 6:31 PM
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This smells of piggybacking on that famous essay by Didion about going to Hawaii in lieu of divorcing Dunne.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 2, 2022 6:31 PM
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Nice displacement of your self-hatred, Ms. Havoline
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 2, 2022 6:31 PM
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Why is it that people who are miserable with their partner assume that everyone must also be miserable with theirs?
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 2, 2022 6:33 PM
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What an unpleasant woman. Her bile isn't funny.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 2, 2022 6:39 PM
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I know people who've worked with Heather and say she's a nice person and kind co-worker.
Nobody makes any money from books these days. To even have a shot, you have to create some viral controversy like this.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 2, 2022 7:24 PM
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I'm glad she never mentioned the smell of dick cheese.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 2, 2022 10:04 PM
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He will tire of the public humiliation.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 2, 2022 10:06 PM
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I doubt she truly hates him. This is the obnoxious, attention getting histrionic style you see in a lot of confessional writers. She reminds me of that Live, Fuck, Travel woman Elizabeth Gilbert. She's still not as bad her though. No one is as bad as Elizabeth Gilbert.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 2, 2022 11:50 PM
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Has he commented about this at all? Is she paying him in order to humiliate him?
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 3, 2022 12:08 AM
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He should divorce her and let her start all over again at 51.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 3, 2022 12:09 AM
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Unless I see more nearly nude photos of him, I'm dumping this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 3, 2022 12:10 AM
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She hasnt stayed married to him for 16 years because she hates him. Clickbait is all that shit is. Hes kinda hot in an ugly/sexy sort of way,and Im thinking theres some size meat dangling between his legs.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 3, 2022 12:29 AM
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There was a good NYT excerpt from her book that ran a few months ago under the title "Marriage Requires Amnesia." She wrote about the cycle of being annoyed by your spouse and then just as suddenly being reminded of how much you love them, how attractive they are, and how they're your favorite person.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 3, 2022 12:30 AM
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Husband's legs and a bit of his tattoo showing
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 31 | March 3, 2022 12:37 AM
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Cute nerd. Good bone structure. Keeps the body tight.
I'll take him!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 32 | March 3, 2022 12:41 AM
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[quote] This is the obnoxious, attention getting histrionic style you see in a lot of confessional writers. She reminds me of that Live, Fuck, Travel woman Elizabeth Gilbert.
Havriletsky is one of the writers who popularized it. She writes an advice column and is connected in some way to Cheryl Strayed, who wrote Wild. My guess would be she’s sincerely hyperbolic, which I would hate being around, but it’s seemed to bring her a lot of work and her nice tall husband, who probably likes having a prickly wife.
That being said, I find this to be just an annoying variant of “Can’t live with him, can’t live without him” empty-headed humor. Boring.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 3, 2022 12:44 AM
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He’s cute his cock is big in my ass
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 3, 2022 12:49 AM
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[quote]Yes, but to put that out publicly? That was cruel.
Believe me, more people than you think will "jokingly" say it publicly - esp., with covid. I know this avg-looking woman who is really nice, but she is lucky to have this absolutely gorgeous, high-earning, very intelligent husband. She said that she was glad to be going back to work because she needed to get away from him. I would fuck this guy all day/all night, yet she wanted to get away from him.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 3, 2022 2:14 AM
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I've been looking for her husband's gay equivalent for 20 years: A smart professional who wants to settle down.
Frauen are spoiled for choice, and no man is ever good enough for them. They need to appreciate with they have.
I saw it with my mother, and a female friend of mine is currently pulling the same act with her husband—criticism and guilting without end.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 3, 2022 2:31 AM
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Yeah, no. This fish is trolling here. That husband is “phyne”.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 3, 2022 2:31 AM
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[quote] I've been looking for her husband's gay equivalent for 20 years: A smart professional who wants to settle down.
So the journalists husband is your type?
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 3, 2022 2:34 AM
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He’s very cute. What a crazy bitch she is writing that shit.
He should leave her. A number of us would take care of him real good.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 3, 2022 2:39 AM
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I'd be a better woman than she EVER could
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 3, 2022 2:53 AM
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She's just a typical hateful cunt with a typical disgusting cunt.
And it ain't her husband.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 3, 2022 2:58 AM
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[quote]likening her spouse of 16 years to “a pointy Lego brick underfoot,” “a smelly heap of laundry” and a “snoring heap of meat.”
The "heap of meat" part sound enticing.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 3, 2022 3:03 AM
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No doubt he is unbothered......because he is sticking his penis into another woman and prepping his will to exclude her of anything.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 3, 2022 3:15 AM
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Imagine a man writing this about his wife.
Just.............imagine...............
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 3, 2022 3:17 AM
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Since when is she a journalist? I remember her satire writing on Salon, then she moved to her website tinylittlepenis dot com and wrote hilarious satire. I just assumed she died after that.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 3, 2022 3:27 AM
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Wait, it wasn't Salon, it was another site whose name escapes me.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | March 3, 2022 3:27 AM
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Oh, it was suck dot com! That was where I first laughed at her articles.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 3, 2022 3:32 AM
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Maybe her husband could do a follow-up story, "I Married Karen"
I'd read it
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 3, 2022 3:33 AM
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Most of my straight friends in their early 40s dated through their 20s, got married in very late 20s or early 30s, and are generally in very happy relationships. I keep looking for signs of unhappiness and they're all doing very well. They dont even complain about the wives or kids. (One other factor--all are financially stable, which may be a huge part of unhappy relationships).
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 3, 2022 3:41 AM
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"He is a saint and by the end of the book he seems a hero, he’s definitely the most loveable person in the picture, which is accurate. I’m just very intolerant. So I find him annoying in a way that normal people wouldn’t."
“I hate it when people say their husband is their best friend, but he is my best friend, my therapist and my mother in one,”
That doesn't sound much like hate.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 3, 2022 3:44 AM
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"He is my best friend, my therapist and my mother in one"
Translation: We do not fuck anymore and haven't in years.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 3, 2022 3:55 AM
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God, she sounds like the classic controlling, manipulative narcissist - in the real sense of the word.
He also sounds like a spineless fool.
Their co-dependence is a match made in heaven.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 3, 2022 3:58 AM
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He probably adores her - puts up with all of her nitpicking, her going on and on about something she's pissed off about - and he just sits there and listens and nods his head.
And she hates him for it. He looks like a sweet, albeit nerdy, guy who really grew into his looks as he got older.
If someone wrote this shit about me - I'd be long gone.
What she wants is someone more exciting, glamorous, a bad boy - someone who tells her to shut up, etc. But no - she has an amiable husband and she feels like she has to wear the pants and take control - BUT THAT IS WHAT SHE WANTS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I hate her and have never met her.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 3, 2022 4:57 AM
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Oh those uppity female journalists, I always said if we allow women the ability to read and right and have jobs outside the home it would lead to societal backdown like this!
by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 3, 2022 9:53 AM
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^ I bet she can't even make a decent sandwich
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 3, 2022 9:56 AM
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I hope he's getting some on the side.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 3, 2022 9:57 AM
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^ I think she prefers getting some in the middle
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 3, 2022 9:59 AM
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don't know who she is, but this thread surely summarized the collective lust over a straight man on DL 🙄
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 3, 2022 10:13 AM
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^ Nah, it's collective lust for all men. Being a Frau you wouldn't understand lust for anything other than a cheesecake
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 3, 2022 10:22 AM
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This is just schtick to get some buzz and publicity.
*yawn
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 3, 2022 10:52 AM
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[quote] Prominent US journalist
This person wrote a couple of advice columns for online publications. Neither prominent, nor a journalist.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 3, 2022 10:59 AM
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Is she the person behind “Dear Prudence?”
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 3, 2022 11:03 AM
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💀 at all the replies
“I’D appreciate him better than ever she COULD!!” then rollerskating out of the thread
by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 3, 2022 11:09 AM
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Women & men have different and often oppositional needs, beliefs and values, due to biology and to socialisation. More at 11.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 3, 2022 11:10 AM
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@r68, I'm sure that made sense in your head
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 3, 2022 11:11 AM
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He deserves a deep, slow rimming, something I'm sure she's never given him.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 3, 2022 11:13 AM
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^ He's lucky to get a blow job on his birthday
by Anonymous | reply 72 | March 3, 2022 11:17 AM
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She should die alone after a long time of reflection.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 3, 2022 11:18 AM
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[quote] Good bone structure.
R32 - Are you Miss Trixie Delight?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 74 | March 3, 2022 11:20 AM
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Every marriage has people hating each other sometimes. It’s not shocking to admit it.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | March 3, 2022 11:40 AM
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Stopped reading after “y’all”
by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 3, 2022 11:46 AM
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They look insufferable. Why are his legs so grotesquely long?
by Anonymous | reply 77 | March 3, 2022 12:20 PM
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R75 it’s exactly the same as those moms who unprovoked exclaim, sotto voce like it’s criminal, “there are those DAYS when I don’t 💯 LOVE my KIDDOS! I feel ASHAMED I’m such a BAD parent! What if I’m like MY parents?!!”
Meanwhile their DH/Brau/Nigel makes no secret of the fact he despises their kids, and only agreed to have them to keep easy indentured pussy on tap. He makes his family members lives hell because of his entitlement to his feelings over his poor libido and sperm control.
Poor handmaideny Frau is the only one to flagellate and feel guilt.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | March 3, 2022 12:53 PM
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[quote] Why are his legs so grotesquely long?
I know DL is especially critical, but this guy looks objectively gorgeous to me.
Their marriage seems like a fairly common dynamic of a crazily overdramatic spouse + a stoic doormat-esque spouse, although usually the crazy one is also the hot one, and here it’s reversed.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | March 3, 2022 2:31 PM
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You can tell the hot nerd has considerable sizemeat.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | March 3, 2022 2:35 PM
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R79 you must be blind. He's not gorgeous on any level, he's mildly attractive.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | March 3, 2022 5:06 PM
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Wait until she loses him to death.
Her tune will change in a heartbeat.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | March 3, 2022 5:09 PM
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Straight men are such fucking idiots to get married. It would be far easier to hire a surrogate for procreation and a cook/housekeeper to take care of the house.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | March 3, 2022 5:14 PM
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Gone girl vibes. Middle class homely straight white women are incredibly spoiled when it comes to Men.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | March 3, 2022 5:21 PM
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It's cheaper and more conventional to just get married, R83. You get all that plus a lot have a side piece, so all the man's needs are met. If the man is a good provider and not too much of an asshole the wife will stay, so no expensive divorce.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | March 3, 2022 5:21 PM
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^ Straight men are also stupid and spoiled
by Anonymous | reply 86 | March 3, 2022 5:25 PM
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[quote]a “snoring heap of meat.”
I know you guys love the heteros for some reason but come on, this is fucking hilarious.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | March 3, 2022 5:28 PM
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Do they have kids? A lot of couples stay together because they don't want to disappoint or upset their kids.
Then there are couples who are codependent. One person enables the other. Or one person is miserable but is terrified to be alone. Some people are just too lazy to go through the divorce process and split up their finances and property.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | March 3, 2022 5:33 PM
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There's a whole movement called MGTOW that's pretty much about that but of course it's been labeled sexist/misogynist/antiwoman
by Anonymous | reply 90 | March 3, 2022 5:35 PM
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R90 was meant to be a response to R83
by Anonymous | reply 91 | March 3, 2022 5:35 PM
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Today I learned beggars CAN be choosers.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | March 3, 2022 5:35 PM
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[quote] It's cheaper and more conventional to just get married, [R83]. You get all that plus a lot have a side piece, so all the man's needs are met. If the man is a good provider and not too much of an asshole the wife will stay, so no expensive divorce.
To get married to and be legally tied to a typical shrew who browbeats her husband to death until he contemplates suicide or murder? No live-in housekeeper and cook is worth that bargain.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | March 3, 2022 5:39 PM
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MGTOW is just a cover for men who are not marriage/relationship material to say they CHOOSE not to marry. The truth is, no one wants those men for a relationship anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | March 3, 2022 5:55 PM
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Even if it's not sincere hate and maybe a joke. It's very disrespectful to her husband. Couples are supposed to respect one another. We know damn well she wouldn't let him write an article about her in this light.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | March 3, 2022 6:41 PM
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R95 no man truly respects women. Females may have won some tokenistic rights, but scratch the surface and see they are still the underclass. Which is why the world is in the fucking mess it’s in.
If women truly treated men the same way men treat them, then society as we know it would collapse and implode (kind of a positive in some ways...)
by Anonymous | reply 96 | March 3, 2022 7:14 PM
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I would say plenty of men respect their mothers, aunts, sisters and daughters who are just about the only ones they will submit to. But I can see your point about girlfriends and wives though.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | March 3, 2022 7:19 PM
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so much misogyny in this thread
she needs to embrace feminism and become a political lesbian.
r96
Preach, sister-woman.
huMAN
woMAN
feMALE
perSON
dishwasHER
it's all around us, we must scissor the patriarchy away!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 99 | March 3, 2022 7:30 PM
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I am woman, hear me roar In numbers too big to ignore And I know too much to go back and pretend 'Cause I've heard it all before And I've been down there on the floor No one's ever going to keep me down again
Whoa, yes, I am wise But it's wisdom born of pain Yes, I've paid the price But look how much I gained
If I have to I can do anything I am strong (strong) I am invincible (invincible) I am woman
You can bend but never break me 'Cause it only serves to make me More determined to achieve my final goal And I'll come back even stronger Not a novice any longer 'Cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul
Whoa, yes, I am wise But it's wisdom born of pain Yes, I've paid the price But look how much I gained
If I have to I can do anything I am strong (strong) I am invincible (invincible) I am woman
I am woman, watch me grow See me standing toe-to-toe As I spread my loving arms across the land But I'm still an embryo With a long, long way to go Until I make my brother understand
Whoa, yes, I am wise But it's wisdom born of pain Yes, I've paid the price But look how much I gained
If I have to I can face anything I am strong (strong) I am invincible (invincible) I am woman
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 100 | March 3, 2022 7:36 PM
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I get it girl. Meanwhile he looks like Sam Shepard- pretty hot.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | March 3, 2022 7:48 PM
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R34 From what I’m aware of, a lot of those MGTOW men are already divorced.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | March 3, 2022 7:49 PM
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R96 There are definitely countries where women are the underclass and treated horribly.
But I don’t see how that fits into the western world.
And I don’t know what you mean if women treated men the way men treated women. One of the reasons I’m glad to be gay is because women are fucking expensive.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | March 3, 2022 7:56 PM
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What funny and clever about putting on being an emasculating cunt?
by Anonymous | reply 106 | March 3, 2022 7:57 PM
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r96 I love Datalounge because people post shit like this unironically or without trying to be funny. People actually think this, and it makes it hilarious!
by Anonymous | reply 107 | March 3, 2022 7:58 PM
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Tricks and sugar babies ain't cheap R105
by Anonymous | reply 108 | March 3, 2022 8:05 PM
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Yeah I don't see how rich white women are an underclass. Middle Eastern, Indian, African and Asian women come from violently misogynistic societies. In Western cultures, while women are stereotyped and abused, nobody is stopping them from getting high paying jobs and getting a higher education and it's heavily encouraged.
Lower income white women, black woman, Hispanic women, Native American women and women immigrants have a lot of barriers tied to class, culture and race though. But I find it hard to buy upper-class white women have it hard.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | March 3, 2022 8:15 PM
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That man is so hot. I'd be too busy with his dick in my mouth to complain.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | March 3, 2022 8:16 PM
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[quote] Meanwhile he looks like Sam Shepard
No regrets, Coyote.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | March 3, 2022 8:17 PM
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He is definitely a keeper.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | March 3, 2022 9:37 PM
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She’s got you all so pressed so I guess it worked?🍄
by Anonymous | reply 113 | March 3, 2022 11:27 PM
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