‘Pushed back because we’re Black’: Africans stranded at Ukraine-Poland border

I saw this in the DM, glad it was confirmed via France24; it is heartbreaking.

Muslims, too, and the news of it is spreading.

Critics Call Out ‘Racist’ Western Coverage of Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine

Poland has never been fond of people of color.

So many people think Europe is too educated and tame to have racism, not like us awful Americans. But it's often unaddressed over there, and when you don't have dialog it gets worse. At least here we're diverse and POC speak out about what they face.

why are you in Europe without a passport?

Well, someone needs to clean up the mess.

Our most effective tool in conquering the U.S. is racial division.

Wow, they really do need everything to be about them.

This is Russian propaganda. Go fuck yourself.

Good to see this finally being exposed by the media.

r6 He's a foreign student. He's in Europe with a Nigerian passport, dummy.

The racism is not only coming from the Ukrainians. Here's a high-ranking French government official sounding exactly like Donald Trump.

They were not pushed back because they were black. That is nonsense and most of the people talking about it on youtube and twitter understand their issues in getting back home.

There was a white South African woman on youtube bitching about it, but it was the fault of her country, not Ukraine.

Is this the latest Russian propaganda? Seems to me that Ukraine was/is very welcoming of POC.

Why in the world did people wait so long to try to leave and go home? Surely they saw what was coming.

This is drummed up and trying to take support away from Ukraine.

Those people got a seat and a lot of this is made up and exaggerated in the fog of battle.

I think the squad is going this route. They should be full throated in support of Ukraine but I’m not seeing that.

Wait . . . the SQUAD is supporting Russia and condemning Ukraine? They are idiots.

At the height of war this kind of criticism is seditious - if they were Ukrainian. But hey aren't we all one world? Isn't that what they want? No borders and all that rot? So they ARE seditious.

Sure, Jan/r16

There's more to the story.

It's huge on TikTok right now.

It's big news in India.

More from WION, from neutral India.

Reminds me of when some Holocaust survivors made it back to their home town and their ethnic Polish neighbors said “We don’t want you, Jews” and massacred them.

R19, thank you. That is exactly what I have been seeing on Youtube and reading. Their home countries have to set up evacuation plans to extricate them with the extricating host country. They can't just leave however and wherever they want. I'm sure people are panicking, and this may be causing a lot of this confusion. But, hey, future doctors need to keep their heads in the midst of chaos, right?

So enough of this Russian propaganda. BTW I thought Tiktok was mainly for twerking.

All the usual suspects.

All this has been debunked.

Artists are going to help.

China is having a field day puppeting the fascist narrative on their pride and joy, Tik Tok.

NYT’s Nikole Hannah-Jones blasts ‘racialized’ coverage of Ukraine war

Russians know that accusations of racism are the easiest way to distract Americans.

Can someone please post the top TikTok videos on this? I can't seem to.

Foreign students fleeing Ukraine say they face segregation, racism at border

By Stephanie Busari, Nimi Princewill, Shama Nasinde and Mohammed Tawfeeq, CNN

Updated 12:18 PM ET, Tue March 1, 2022

Arabs decry 'racist' double standard in Ukraine media commentary

Reuters. The African Union is on it.

This is about visas and nationality, not about race. Ukrainians don't require a visa to enter Poland, citizens of African countries do.

Seriously, do some people on social media ever do anything but whine about their pet peeves?

That seems to be why social media was invented, R34.

Russia is using a 'pretend we're leftist' communications strategy to offset the very successful Ukrainian one of speaking clearly, showing what's happening and fighting like hell.

This strategy involved co-opting the language of the global anti-war, pacifist movement to arouse criticism from the western left. So when you see language from Russian public figures like sportpeople promoting 'peace', that's them blaming Ukraine for committing war on themselves. When they project onto Ukrainians as Nazis and fascists and concoct shit like this, that's Russian trying to frame Ukraine as having deserved war. Sergei Lavrov is talking like AOC about 'indigenous minorities' (Russians in Donbass) having their culture and language erased by the evil racist Ukrainians.

You are being played. This is the Jill Stein/Tulsi Gabbard trick all over again. Don't fall for it.

Dr. Ayoade Alakija:

Black Africans are being treated with racism and contempt in Ukraine & Poland. West cannot ask African nations to stand in solidarity with them if they cannot display basic respect for us even in a time of war. Ignored in a pandemic and left to die in war?!! UNACCEPTABLE.

R36, you need to say that on TikTok. That's where it's been blowing up.

Teen Vogue is on it.

Under the hashtag #AfricansInUkraine, several people have shared stories and accounts of their difficulties trying to leave the country, including reports that Ukrainian security officials are stopping Africans from boarding trains and buses. There are more than 15,000 students from African nations studying in Ukraine, the majority of them from Nigeria, Morocco, and Egypt.

Africans and Indians have taken to social media to post requests for support getting out of Ukraine, alleging that they have been turned back from trains and threatened by police for attempting to leave. The BBC reported that Indian students alleged they were beaten by Ukrainian border guards in their efforts to cross the border.

... Some American politicians have criticized the footage. “Bombs don’t check your nationality and border security shouldn’t either,” tweeted Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), a former refugee herself. “Everyone fleeing Ukraine is in desperate need of shelter. I hope neighboring countries who are opening their borders to Ukrainians wouldn’t discriminate against Africans and Asians. Let’s lead with grace.”

Totally agree R37

Also agree with thd below:

In a follow-up tweet, Hannah-Jones continued: “And honestly, these admissions of shock that this is happening in a European country are ahistorical and also serve to justify the lack of sympathy for other invasions, other occupations and other refugee crisis involving peoples not considered white.”

This faux historian is another Goebbels. She just makes up a narrative and then twists history and her biased suppositions to fit into her bias box.

She needs to just fuck off. At least we know who would be useless if the US ever was at war.

It did seem suspicious that Ukraine was attacked during Black History Month.

The squad is going all in on this. Smh.

They are on thin ice with me.

First they this was all Poland and not Ukraine.

Then they changed it to Ukraine.

Fact: If Ukrainians weren't blonde and white, we wouldn't give a shit about this invasion.

Did the Ukraine just get racists in the last 2 days? Didn’t these people live there. They never noticed this before?

This stinks to high heaven.

Maybe they expect people who migrate to heir country for a better life to stay and FIGHT for it?

Well, the Russians were slow, but they finally found their talking point. During every single period in the past several years where there has been racial turmoil, it’s been proven Russian troll farms have stirred the part. Over the past few days, black Twitter has inadvertently become Russian propagandists by claiming Ukrainians are not only racist, but now they don’t deserve the west’s support!

Funny how the country that took them in and gave them opportunities is now being treated like the villain.

And let’s be honest: The Poles know every single African and Middle Easterner they accept will use the situation to migrate into EU countries. They’re shameless.

Third time this has been posted; situation was last week and has been resolved.

Entitled pussies.

[quote]Fact: If Ukrainians weren't blonde and white, we wouldn't give a shit about this invasion.

Fact: Up to 30 million people worldwide -- including 400,000-500,000 in NYC -- took to the streets on a single day in mass protest agains the possible invasion of Iraq. Last I checked, Iraqis aren't blonde and white.

R45 no, you care because they are victims of Russian, not American invasion. You are anti white racists, so you can't see the nuances.

These young and strong men could have stayed to help. Instead of trying to run away in front of women and children. Such pussies.

I’ve been to Kiev multiple times, to include with a black friend who loved it. None of these people claiming Ukrainians are racist had any problem when they were getting visas and accepting enrollment offers from Ukrainian universities. Now they’re all racist because the only place they call home is being attacked, while long term visitors with lives in other countries are being inconvenienced. Unbelievable.

It reminds me of the Republicans savaging Biden for not getting all Americans out of Afghanistan before he pulled out all the troops -- even though his administration had been telling them to leave for months. The Republican blame game was pure propaganda, as is this.

Who can believe them, because whatever might have happened and even if thousands of other people were in the same situation, they would ask for special treatment and if they don't get it, they would pull the race card and say that they are victims cause they are black.

Does anyone on black twitter care about the Ukrainian victims? Or do they only repeat the story about the blacks who were stuck on the border?

So, basically, Poland has opened her border for Ukrainians only (and, I guess, EU citizens). African nationals are to be processed through Romania.

Honestly, this seems to be a PR issue and, obviously, under war time conditions, the instructions aren’t getting through.

Meanwhile, POC who did cross into Romania have posted about how well they are treated.

Clearly the key issue in an unprovoked invasion of one mostly white nation by another mostly white nation, the biggest disturbance in at least 30 years if not back to WWII, is how black people from other countries are being treated.

Two things can be true. There most certainly is an element of racism occurring and at the same time Russian propaganda seeks to amplify and lie about the situation.

Some of the left in Canada are outraged that Canada is allowing 4000 refugees from Ukraine, screeching about refugees who are not white and forgetting that we took in more than 70, 000 Syrians in the last few years alone.

It's craziness.

Blocking one asshole who keeps posting these bullshit stories and half the thread disappeared. Sorry, Vlad, Russians are the biggest racists of them all.

This story is bullshit. These students are from Nigeria only. "Black and brown" people from countries like India and South Africa were getting into Poland because their countries had come to arrangements with the Polish government. The Nigerian government had not made the effort to come to an arrangement for visa waivers with the Polish government. The problem has apparently been resolved now that the Nigerian government was forced to wake up and call the Polish government and arrange a visa waiver and also come to arrangements with other countries neighbouring onto Ukraine.

What is are some of his R numbers, r61?

Do you mean that they're doing the same as the US, R36? Do you remember when they claimed that they needed to occupy Afghanistan for 20 years so that the Taliban wouldn't abuse women, or they needed to impose new regimes in Syria, Libya and Egypt that were "inclusive and tolerant", as was revealed by Wikileaks?

It doesn't feel nice when they are giving you a spoonful of your own medicine?

They shouldnt be surprised by that...Poland is incredibly racist country

R65 Sure. It was Poland who kept blacks as slaves and denied them access to public places for white people until recently and who committed the genocide on Native Americans, shame on them.

You must know that Eastern Europeans don't care your western white liberal guilt and they don't treat blacks like children with special needs. Eastern Europeans in fact don't owe them the special treatment, different than the other people get.

^ Americans insist the rest of the world adopt American neuroses.

Perhaps Archewell will send the company jet.

Funny how last week some black posters on DL stated: It is white people against other white people, what do we care.

But luckily for these posters it is all about blacks again. They had to wait on the border (in safe parts) because of the administrative issues . Someone was less than polite to them, how racist.

Meanwhile people are bombed, many casualties, but what can be compared to Nigerian mimosas who got ugly looks from an officer-because of the color of her skin, they told the reporters when they finally left Ukraine.

Crackers.

I just watched BBC news where a rep from the UNHCR, Chris Boian, essentially bought into this crap and fueled the now debunked meme - rather than correct the record just said we are aware of the reports and we hope the authorities will not discriminate based on color blah blah blah and just let people evacuate - essentially anyway they want.

Now this stupid man had just sent a message that people don't have to evacuate in a way that will get them home. Rather he - someone who should be avoiding the creation of more refugees - will cause people to be lost in the chaos with no way home.

Funny how Nigerian mimosas don't get so hurt about the human rights violation when the homos get executed in their country for their homosexuality.

Not to diminish what Black people have gone through both historically and today - which is horrific - but if we're going to dredge up the entire history of the human race it is interesting to remember that the Slavic peoples were commonly slaves as well in the Middle Ages. That's where the term comes from.

There is no escaping that large swaths of Europe, especially Eastern Europe are incredibly grim and racist and have no problem wishing to hold up the U.S. as an exemplar of racism and white brotherhood.

Oh No, will CNN's Sara SIdner be able to get out?

R70 If now is not the time to talk about entitled pussies feeling hurt that the people in war give them the special treatment and kiss their assess, then when.

The photo is pathetic, a big piece of hunk sitting on the floor, waiting on the cold for some hour to be released through the border to go back in mama's arms.

These guys might have BBC, but they are cunts.

Because broad sweeping generalisations like that really help the cause R74. Europe just has a different view to racial relations than the US. Not saying it isn't unequal but the racial dynamics within the US are built on it's uniquely complex and horrible history - it's not broadly applicable everywhere.

What on earth made Africans think Ukraine was a good place to immigrate to in the first place? Not exactly diverse.

They are students mostly, not immigrants. But they are used to, because Nigeria is not diverse neither.

What on earth do Africans immigrate to places where they can do little except shiver in the cold?

Is it simply a matter of resenting that race is not the main headline of the week ?

Like North America R81? They didn't immigrate, they were kidnapped and enslaved.

R82 Sure seems like it. That and trolling. I saw this on Twitter a couple of days ago, but it didn't get traction, so the trolls went for social media venues where corrections were harder to pull off.

Polacks are very racist.

I blame it on you Americans and British. After you made them great wrongs, you are enticing blacks to act not like men, but like entitled pussies.

I don't think Africans are like this, but they have seen their chance with woke western journalists. They thought, correctly, that race card would help them have some privilege in exiting the country. And, you know Nigerians, they are resourceful.

Oh, they’re just able-bodied men who are used to leaving women and children behind in war-torn territories. Safety? Free stuff? Move over, everyone!

African students go to Ukraine to get a free, high quality education because Nigeria is so backward. The least they could do is stay and fight alongside the Ukrainians.

Did you check the spelling of Polacks in your Derogatory Dictionary R85?

R85 For mentally challenged, tere is the repetition:

Sure. It was Poland who kept blacks as slaves and denied them access to public places for white people until recently and who committed the genocide on Native Americans, shame on them.

You must know that Eastern Europeans don't care your western white liberal guilt and they don't treat blacks like children with special needs. Eastern Europeans in fact don't owe them the special treatment, different than the other people get.

And in fact it is R85, who is a xenophobic fascist little bitch.

This story reminds me of my friend experience which I described on another thread:

A female friend was in France and a black guy was part of her student company. When on an occasion the guy got drunk he started groping her she pushed him away (and had to fight because the guy, who otherwise was nice became really aggressive, luckily other students were around), he told her : Tu n'aimes pas les noir.

Last week I was reading memoires of an actress, who is super woke, anti racist etc. and she had the similar experience, in France too. When she escaped from a black guy who tried to attack her sexually he screamed: you are racists as she was running away.

[quote]Because broad sweeping generalisations like that really help the cause [R74]. Europe just has a different view to racial relations than the US. Not saying it isn't unequal but the racial dynamics within the US are built on it's uniquely complex and horrible history - it's not broadly applicable everywhere.

Where do you and your intellectualizations come from, sir or madam? Please tell me about your personal, individual experiences. Would you like to hear about mine?

My "broad sweeping generaliSations" are based on being a first generation American female from Europe (Spain, if you must know), whose father and uncle labeled me a "useless whore" when a nice boy from the Dominican Republic from Jesuit High School picked me up in his father's Pontiac to go to the second Star Wars movie in '79 or '80.

When I got back home I was absolutely pilloried. They kept asking how I'd fucked a black guy (he was actually brown and Hispanic) and threatened to disown me. I was a virgin then and for several more years, but I never got over my hatred for my shitty, racist possesive father.

I worked with several Nigerians at one point. The women were lovely,the men were arrogant pieces of shit. Same with Somalians,same with Haitians. I dont know what it is with men from poverty ridden shit hole countries being so damn arrogant.

[quote]Fact: If Ukrainians weren't blonde and white, we wouldn't give a shit about this invasion.

They're pretty fucking hot, too.

Great story R93. So glad you feel your personal experience captures an entire continent's history and culture.

And guys, I don’t say that there are not jerks or racists in Ukraine, just like anywhere else. regretfully, there is no perfect victim. But even if you were treated less than polite in the chaotic situation in a war zone, would you seek attention and whine about it while returning home, while people are being killed and left without everything. Complete sociopath dicks, as if they are complaining about the bad treatment in a holiday resort.

Are there black celebrities that empathize with Ukranians victims of war or only with the Nigerian mimosas?

Wow a lot of people here are sarcasm-impaired. Are there any fags left on DL?

No, we are straight men.

r93 we don't give a fuck about your awful life experiences. Take it to another board.

r93 your father and uncle were right

The Somalians in Maine are hideous. Nobody could understand why the US Government dumped them there, of all places.

It sucks that black people always innocently get stuck in the middle of white savagery.

Everyone talks about black crime, there’s no fucking black people ready to nuke the planet.

R85 - I got it. I was just about to post, "well played" but I see you responded at R99.

R104 Maybe they could empathize with their fellow students Ukrainians who are victims of savagery. Maybe they could have helped. Not just trying to save their sorry asses and badmouth people in horrible situation.

Of course, if they are anti white racists like you, they would not.

R104 No nukes, but very much of black on black savagery in Africa, but in US ghettos too.

[quote]there’s no fucking black people ready to nuke the planet.

There's us, though!

[quote]there’s no fucking black people ready to nuke the planet.

Pakistan has nukes, and they're batshit crazy motherfuckers too.

R104 No nukes, but throwing shit in the faces of a woman on american subway, you don’t know which is worse,

They are virtuous victims. There was thread about them on DL yesterday.

"We show that individuals with Dark Triad traits—Machiavellianism, Narcissism, Psychopathy—more frequently signal virtuous victimhood, controlling for demographic and socioeconomic variables that are commonly associated with victimization in Western societies....[W]e show that a specific dimension of Machiavellianism—amoral manipulation—and a form of narcissism that reflects a person’s belief in their superior prosociality predict more frequent virtuous victim signaling."

R111 Historically, that’s textbook white people. Playing victims to be evil.

R104 black people could have stayed in Nigeria, ya know

They had plenty of warning to get out of Ukraine before the war, perhaps they should have needed that.

Whatever.

We all know that white people will end Earth. Whatever happens to destroy the planet, humanity, everyone knows it will be at the hands of white people. White people know that too.

R115 that's because white people and Asians run the most scientifically advanced countries.

R115 that's incorrect. If you follow current trends on Black Twitter, black people invented physics, mathematics, were the original Egyptians and Sumerians, invented jump rope, and much, much more.

Therefore if anything bad happens, it's their fault since they will have invented that, too.

I know a black guy who honestly thinks Black Panther is historically accurate. FFS

I very much feel your victimy genetic pain, black people.

Why are these Nigerians going to Poland when they could go to Nigeria?

[quote]We all know that white people will end Earth.

It will be the Chinese with some new shit disease.

[quote]I know a black guy who honestly thinks Black Panther is historically accurate. FFS

And OJ was innocent!

Do black people hate Asians as much as they hate white people? I'm wondering because there have been so many cases of black men murdering Asian women and old people over the past year.

They didn't want to follow the law or listen to the authorities.

I'm starting to think that's an inherited genetic trait.

Sadly, probably not R99. Just a bunch of fraus too stupid to recognise sarcasm without an /s

[quote]Clearly the key issue in an unprovoked invasion of one mostly white nation by another mostly white nation, the biggest disturbance in at least 30 years if not back to WWII, is how black people from other countries are being treated.

Everything MUST be about race 24/7.

Americans have been insanely narcissistic about this Ukrainian invasion. Every persons I've seen on social media has managed to shoehorn this hideous event into their identity politics/brand.

White, black, Russian-American, Indigenous... we are a nation of sociopaths.

R127. Americans are a nation of observers. The only war on U.S. soil was the Civil War and so Americans have never had to really fight an existential battle - it's made war seem like something to watch rather than empathise with.

R128 except the Japs shelling the west coast in '42

[quote]The only war on U.S. soil was the Civil War and so Americans have never had to really fight an existential battle

The Revolutionary War and The War of 1812 kindly ask you to go back to 7th grade.

Wait, wait, you really don't want to come to the United States, do you? This is a HORRIBLE, RACIST country. Blacks in the U.S. can't wait to get the fuck out of here! Sometimes they even make you do, uhhhhhh your OWN laundry! Awful!

R128 seems to forgotten about this tiny little event called PEARL HARBOR. You know, the event that sucked the U.S. into WW2?

Even Joy Reid just said on her show that these stories are Russian propaganda designed to stir up racial discord in western nations. So you know these are fake, because there’s nothing she loves more than a good “see I keep telling y’all that white people are racist!” story.

OK fine, the War of Independence too R130. I don't completely count that though since the US didn't have the same structure or even culture then as America does now. I'm no historian but I imagine there were more differences between Americans now and then, than differences between Americans and British in the 18th century. In many ways it was a Civil War too.

R132. Pearl Harbor was an attack but the war happened off-shore, not on US soil.

[quote]The only war on U.S. soil was the Civil War and so Americans have never had to really fight an existential battle

Do fuck off!

If it were Europeans or Asians trying to escape a black country, they'd probably be beaten to death at the train station.

If these videos are fake, that means they're war criminals. They meant to bring harm to Ukraine. They should be charged with war crimes. They were seeking to get Ukrainians killed.

They're human garbage.

If a black transwoman gets turned back at the Polish border THAT WILL TREND ON TWITTER FOR A YEAR!!!

Rolling Stone is two days slower than TikTok.

The Times posted this an hour ago.

From neutral India.

Hindustan Times

Obviously Nigerian and Indian students need to go to college in their home countries.

Rahul Gandhi has taken note.

From BBC News.

What would Ukrainians care if non-Ukrainians crossed the border to another country?

R146, it's about getting a seat on bus or train to go through the hinterlands through the border and the towns accepting refugees. That's what all of them are saying.

None of those people even look like real Africans. They look like American blacks who were photoshopped into those pictures.

R146 If matters if the host-country has to feed, clothe, house, and sewer these interlopers and not allowing for genuine Ukrainians.

WTF are all those Africans even doing in Ukraine?

A whole long segment with discussion.

[quote] It reminds me of the Republicans savaging Biden for not getting all Americans out of Afghanistan before he pulled out all the troops -- even though his administration had been telling them to leave for months.

AND it was their god-emperor Trump who gave up on Afghanistan and signed the agreement to skedaddle.

From Time, posted today. South Asians mostly from India and Africans.

The Russians bombing innocent civilians is high priority.

All these butt-hurt feelings and Woke Outrage is of low priority.

They’re all Nigerian princes—can’t they just send some emails and get people to send cash?

To be fair, western Ukraine is peaceful for now, and Lviv is a really nice city. I'm not quite getting why everyone's fleeing to the border.

When Russian propaganda meets Wokeism turning everything into racism. How come all those guys aren't staying to fight the Russians? Fuck 'em.

[quote] Russians know that accusations of racism are the easiest way to distract Americans.

Distract us from what?

OP Nice try. No one's buying.

[quote] Sure. It was Poland who kept blacks as slaves and denied them access to public places for white people until recently and who committed the genocide on Native Americans, shame on them.

I lived in Chicago. Polish people are racist as f*ck.

[quote] Not to diminish what Black people have gone through both historically and today - which is horrific - but if we're going to dredge up the entire history of the human race it is interesting to remember that the Slavic peoples were commonly slaves as well in the Middle Ages. That's where the term comes from.

The Black people evacuating Ukraine are not Black Americans, their attitudes toward race are not shaped by centuries of cross-racial enslavement. Nigerians, in particular, are very slow to attribute any mistreatment to racism.

[quite] If a black transwoman gets turned back at the Polish border THAT WILL TREND ON TWITTER FOR A YEAR!!!

You're a racist! And I hate you for making me laugh out loud at work...

I've worked with many African immigrants over the years and I never cease to be shocked at how much they hate African-Americans. They say all the same things about them that racist white people say, and want nothing to do with them. It's mind-blowing to actually hear them talk about AA.

[quote]I've worked with many African immigrants over the years and I never cease to be shocked at how much they hate African-Americans. They say all the same things about them that racist white people say, and want nothing to do with them. It's mind-blowing to actually hear them talk about AA.

Did you ask them why they didn’t go back to the shithole African country they came from if they had such a problem with AA’s?

They work hard, believe in education, and contribute a lot r164.

Hmmm...

R166

[quote] Where is your soul?

Emotional Blackmail

Maybe North Americans themselves should send the rescue team for these poor black people "close to the point of death"?

It really is R167. Ukraine is fighting for its survival. She should set up a GoFundMe or something and donate - we can see how much her soul is worth then.

R45, plenty of people cared about all the other (mostly US) invasions.

The big deal here is that it's a land grab the likes of which hasn't been seen since WWII. In addition, it's being perpetrated by a world power led by an unpredictable authoritarian who has the weapons to destroy the entire world.

I thought the gravity of the situation would distract from grievance politics, but I guess not.

R170, Russia is losing the online war of establishing a narrative people can rally around, so their going back to their playbook of exploiting racial grievances.

It shouldn’t be ignored Africans and Indians have been the loudest critics…and Russia has made inroads in India and many African countries over the course of decades.

Dirty snitchs.

R161 I don't know. They follow the fashion. With the little help from the woke journalists and Putin propaganda...

But they certainly have the bad characters.

R163 Because they’re taught to assimilate to white people when they come to the US. No different from any other immigrants who come here.

[quote] Because they’re taught to assimilate to white people

R174 Rubbish! Because generations of Africans haven't been culturally inculcated with the imprudent "whites are the cause of my misfortune" message.

R175 I thought so, too. But turns out they discovered the race card could take them to desired places faster.

LOL at r163 speaking for African immigrants in the US. And how they all allegedly hate African Americans. The funny thing is the people who say this are always white racists. We never hear from these Africans themselves expressing their hatred. Granted you can easily find isolated cases if you search, just like you'll be able to find British immigrants (I think the preferred term is 'ex-pats') who stick to themselves and despise Americans, but hardly representative of the whole community.

That said, there are demographic disparities between Africans in the US and AAs. One is, first and second-generation Africans are the community with the highest incidence of Masters degrees in the US, surpassing even Asian Americans. African immigrants tend to value education and typically tend to grow up in two-parent families with a mother and father present with extremely low incidences of divorce. That makes them better off than most white Americans.

R175 No not rubbish. And the idea for you to say “generations” is pretty dumb given that Jim Crow wasn’t really “generations” away. I’m sure you’re an old fuck who was alive when Jim Crow laws were still around. And that’s not a joke, you’re probably in your late 50’s.

Bullshit r177. I've worked and lived amongst many African immigrants, socialized with them etc. and they're pretty consistent. I stay out of it because as a white person I don't believe it's my prerogative to intervene in a cultural issue that is not my own.

R177 The only ones known to me, Obama and Tyler the Creator, were abandoned as babies by their African fathers.

R178 steps right up to prove the point. Blacks were not the only people who were and still are targets of discrimination in the US. Yet blacks are the only ones who continue to blame everyone else for their misfortune. As your post perfectly illustrates.

[quote]And the idea for you to say “generations” is pretty dumb given that Jim Crow wasn’t really “generations” away.

R178 A "generation" is considered to be 25 years. Since "Jim Crow laws" ended in 1964, that's well within the realm of generationS.

Black African, South Asian and Arab students have long complained about racism in Ukraine even before the invasion. I was in Kiev about ten years ago when neo-nazi youths rounded up black people dumped them in garbage bins and dragged them around the neighbourhood. I don't know why people are pretending a country with one of the largest neo-nazi prevalence in Europe is suddenly this innocent, idyllic place. The Maidan revolution (or coup, depending on how you see it) was run by people with strong Nazi leanings.

Also, Ukraine has acknowledged the racist treatment.

Eastern Europeans are quite racist, I thought this was common knowledge.

And the fact about their education you must have read on black twitter. Unfortunately, facts are not so politically correct, but all the IQ evaluations have shown that Chinese, Koreans have the highest IQ, some European countries following and Subsaharan Africans have the lowest IQs.

[quote]The only ones known to me, Obama and Tyler the Creator, were abandoned as babies by their African fathers.

Obama's father moved back to Kenya mainly because he couldn't stand the racism and he wasn't really an immigrant but a foreign student who always intended to return. He also faced intense pressure from his Kenyan family to dump the white wife and marry a girl from his tribe.

R183 Ukrainians are racists and bigoted. But then so are Africans, South Asians and Middle Easterners. Why the hypocrisy?

This thread needs to die. It's obvious pro-Putin deflection to seize the narrative and try to paint Ukraine in a bad light - a desperate attempt to diminish the country's global standing and support.

Same as all those "Zelenskyy is anti-gay" posters. So transparent.

R181 Retarded. American slavery and Jim Crow was all black. There’s about 38 million AMERICANS who descend from slavery. No one has been persecuted in the US at the level of black Americans. It’s just retarded and denial.

So, you say that he was a pussy, leaving his child behind because he was so sensitive and his mama was putting him under pressure R186.

R185 Oh God the low IQ talk. How many people take IQ tests? Besides those silly online quizzes. They’ve been deemed irrelevant for years.

Yes, r190. I actually agree. And I think it tormented him because though he was a Harvard educated economist, he fell into alcoholism and died in a car crash (he was drunk driving) alienated and estranged from all his Kenyan and American children.

R183 Even if it was the true that some people were rude to some black students, they were enabled to leave eventually. Could they be men and stop whining and making it all about themselves.

Ukrainians had to apologize, because wokes and blacks were forcing this propaganda.

For christ sake, the maternity hospital was bombed this morning. How can these young men be such pussies.

The "racism everywhere, always" shit is starting to get into "boy who cried wolf" territory.

India is one of the few countries that hasn't opposed Russia, so you probably don't want to be an Indian national at the Ukrainian border.

But, again, the main issues seem to be nationality/visa requirements not race, per se. Ukrainians don't need a visa to travel into Poland, Nigerians and Indians do.

It's also true that Ukraine and its neighbors do seem to be giving priority to women and children, which isn't surprising.

But, the basic deal is that leaving a country dealing with an invasion is a messy, desperate business--there are thousands of stories about just that from World War II.

In the case of Ukraine, Biden *told* everyone when the invasion was and how likely it was. I honestly don't understand foreign nationals waiting for the invasion before leaving. Leaving a week earlier would have made all the difference.

R181--the Native Americans would like to have a word with you, while the Japanese-Americans would love a talk about being jailed for five years and having their property taken away. No Affirmative Action to make up for it either.

Slavery and the ensuing Jim Crow laws were wrong and did a great deal of harm, but, honestly *none* of this has anything to do with Ukraine, which was never a colonial power. They're fighting for their lives, it's disgusting to hector them.

R189 The black experience in America is not unique. Jews, Asians, First Nations, gays and Hispanics have all suffered and continue to suffer discrimination. You trivialize and dismiss the trauma of other minorities with your erroneous assertions.

[quote] American slavery and Jim Crow was all black.

The topic is what constitutes a generation. Your asserted at R178 stated that "And the idea for you to say “generations” is pretty dumb given that Jim Crow wasn’t really “generations” away." I asserted at R182 that generations was indeed correct.

[quote]they were enabled to leave eventually

After they raised a shitstorm. The Ukrainians were actively preventing them from leaving until it became an international incident.

R197 No, it became incident after they have left.

So true R195. Native peoples around the world really are incredibly marginalised. At least Black Americans can try and find some identification with the land they're born in. Native Americans may be born in America but it will be forever clear to them that they will never truly be at home in a land that is no longer theirs and that they are now largely estranged from. It is a worse torment in many ways to have to essentially rent a room in your own home than to have none at all.

[quote] He also faced intense pressure from his Kenyan family to dump the white wife and marry a girl from his tribe.

[quote]you say that he was a pussy, leaving his child behind because he was so sensitive and his mama

In tribal societies, your paramount loyalty is to your family/tribe, which provides you with financial security/protection and social status. Ignorning parental demands is unheard of. That was the sole reason Obama's father dumped the white woman/kid and returned to Kenya.

Even though R197, I have read that some of them are medical students. They could have volunteered to help in the military hospitals as nurses, . That is what a real man would do, not trying to be the first in line to escape with children and elderly. And snitching around afterwords.

R191 I is backed by other ranks, too.

R191 Of South Africa is the only African country with significant number of Nobel prize laurates, 10. But, except the peace Nobels, all the laureates for science and literature were white.

The only ones preventing the Nigerians from leaving Ukraine r197 were there own government, which never bothered to arrange flights for them (which could have been done days and weeks ago) or secure visas for them.

It's a fucking warzone, millions of people are trying to escape, hundreds of thousands are waiting to cross into Poland, people are waiting for hours and hours at the border - people who, unlike the Nigerians have no home and no country to go to. Some people's only home has been bombed to smithereens. It's a shitstorm all round. The Nigerians' selfish shitstorm is not any more important than the war being waged by Russia. The only reason they got out was because their government got off its arse - like other governments had already - and made an effort to get its people out.

R189 Everyone in their right mind acknowledges the terrible exploitations and discriminations that blacks in Us went through.

But, now that they are gaining equality, are they capable to empathize with other people. Because the hysteria of black twitter shows otherwise.

Nigeria is practically Chinese colony these days. Maybe the Chinese were trying to help buddy Putin a bit.

R189, these people are Nigerian students in a war zone in Europe, not black slaves in the US. Black Americans are much better off than Ukrainians. Nigerians are much better off than Ukrainians right now.

R207 Yes, and the lack of empathy for of black twitter is concerning.

I meant that the lack of empathy of black twitter is concerning

r95 He can stay at my house.

R209 Yeah, there's a weird narcissism about it--they don't anyone to become bigger victims and take center stage. Never mind that the Ukrainians are literally fighting to survive and the men aren't allowed to leave.

R211, the Nigerians are going to have to fight the Trannies for center stage. Ukranian Klingers (MASH reference for the young'uns) are trying to cross the border and being told to fuck off back to their country to fight like the men they are and they are not pleased.

The Ukranian Tranny Drama Thread

The homosexuals that are killed by Nigerian authorities are also black. Why the black twitter and Young thug don't care for them in the same way they do for Nigerian male princesses who got nervous for not being the first to escape the country in war.

Nice spin, R192. Obama's father was a deadbeat loser.

[quote]black twitter is concerning

LOL. Why? It's easy to ignore.

[quote]I have read that some of them are medical students. They could have volunteered to help in the military hospitals as nurses, . That is what a real man would do, not trying to be the first in line to escape with children and elderly. And snitching around afterwords.

How, you may ask, did so many students from India and Nigeria end up in Ukraine, of all places? Because Ukraine's ministry of Education and Science actively recruits them. They have centres and agencies in Africa and Asia to promote Ukraine as a desirable destination for higher learning, directly in completion with Russia, one of the world's major destinations for international students, particularly those from developing countries. Ukrainian schools are marketing themselves as a viable alternative to Russia because without international students, some schools would go bankrupt.

[quote]black twitter is concerning

Where can I find this black twitter? Is it a specific hashtag or what? Everybody's always talking about them like how kids talk and act on Tik Tok and everywhere else comes from black twitter.

R217 So? What was your point?

r219 Someone up thread was saying the "migrants" chose Ukraine so they should stay and fight. Africans have no beef with Russians.

Yea, seems like these Africans have beef with Ukrainians. Nobody mentioned they should fight the Russians. I suggested that it would have been nice if some medicine student (they know a few things about medicine) offered his service to hospitals in this time of humanitarian crises. Just like Medicine sans frontiere are doing in Africa.

Ok, I can really understand that you want to save yourself and want to run away from the war zone. Or that you say this is not my war. But acting like offended primadonna and stirring shit against people who are victims of serious aggression, because of administrative problems in crossing the border towards EU (btw. they were waiting on the west Ukranian Polish border outside the dangerous zone), while people are bombed and their homes destroyed, tells me these guys are major cunts. And I want to apologize to female sexual organ to comparing it to this human pieces of shit.

But there is one thing far worse than the complaints of these students to whom nothing happened, except they had some administrative problems in serious chaos of mass escape of foreigners and elderly people, women and children from endangered areas. It could just be few spoiled and entitled mama's boys and they know that they can pull the race card to have some privileges. I have read that a white South African woman was denied entry in Poland too, but what card can she pull?

That is mass support by black Americans and celebrities. The hysteria and accusations, but overall the horrible lack of empathy with people who are suffering. Same like some posters here.

I don't know African Americans and don't want to jump to conclusions, so I am going to ask the American posters here. Are the majority of them really devoid of any empathy towards white people?

I would say… social media has further divided us.

Then they should try to get into Russia r220. But how open-minded of them not to have "beef" with the country that is attempting to decimate the country that is hosting them.

Exactly, R224. Many of them come from countries on friendly terms with Russia, but they’re trying to get into the EU instead.

More African students decry racism at Ukrainian borders

As at least half a million refugees flee Ukraine, more reports of mistreatment by Ukrainian border guards surface.

DL cheerleaders: it's all lies

Ukraine: we made some mistakes

Ukraine Acknowledges Racist Treatment Of Africans Fleeing Russian Invasion

Ukraine’s foreign minister said that African immigrants seeking to evacuate “need to have equal opportunities to return to their home countries safely.”

That headline is misleading, r222. Guessing you didn't read the article.

"On Tuesday, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba tweeted that Russia’s invasion had “affected Ukrainians and non-citizens in many devastating ways.”

“Africans seeking evacuation are our friends and need to have equal opportunities to return to their home countries safely,” the official said, adding that Ukraine’s government “spares no effort to solve the problem.”

LMAO, now they’re ALL students! Just like in 2015 they were all doctors and lawyers.

R228, I take it you're new to diplomatic-speak.

R230 But you never answered my questions: Do blacks Americans have empathy for white people?

Oy, R230 I asked you a question.

R226, those are illegal immigrants trying to exploit this situation to get into the EU. Putin probably shoved them into Ukraine, just like Lukashenko, when he stole the election, flew people in from Iraq to Minsk just to try to shove them into EU countries to create problems for us.

[quote]Days after Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko threatened to flood Europe with migrants, dozens of mostly Iraqi Kurds started arriving in Lithuania. In a cross-border investigation spanning Lithuania, Belarus and Iraq, EURACTIV’s media partner LRT digs into the new human smuggling route.

[quote]Black Mercedes vans are waiting at Minsk airport to bring Iraqi arrivals straight to some of the most popular three- and four-star hotels in the city with names such as Planeta and Sputnik. The new arrivals will spend several days there until the call comes to pack their things and get ready to leave.

[quote]Departing at night, they are taken to the Lithuanian border. The driver points the direction and the Iraqis head west. With last assurances that a car will meet them on the other end, they cross the border. But for most of them, their journey ends at a detention centre in Lithuania.

Of course African students need to have opportunities to return to their home countries - and they should return directly to their home countries from Ukraine, not try to get into Poland and other EU countries. Their governments need to arrange flights to pick them up.

R230 Why are you such a pussy? Be a man and answer.

[quote] I thought the gravity of the situation would distract from grievance politics, but I guess not.

To be clear, the grievance politics are from the RIGHT. The MAGAts who are so aggrieved they stormed the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 because they believe that something they are entitled to is being stripped away. God only knows what. Their Orange Leader was aggrieved every day of the 4 years he was in office whining about this or that, while cowing to the ruthless dictator Putin and convincing his half-wit followers that Russia isn't so bad.

What is happening in Ukraine right now was facilitated by Trump, his band of Republican enablers and his retarded supporters. Republicans still seek to govern based on grievances -- anti-vaxx, voting rights suppression, anti-gay/trans, anti-abortion, anti-immigrant, "owning the libs" -- and have failed to present or advance a single piece of legislation intended to help poor Americans.

[quote] The "racism everywhere, always" shit is starting to get into "boy who cried wolf" territory.

Racism has certainly found its way to Datalounge.

Yea, I was called a racist on DL when I said that Michelle wasn't the most beautiful American first lady.

From the Wall Street Journal

As hundreds of thousands of people fled the Russian invasion of Ukraine for the European Union, guards began to accelerate their own nationals through lines where people waited for more than 48 hours, picking out Black, Asian or Middle Eastern refugees and holding them aside, said dozens of Ukrainians and foreigners who crossed the border.

Most of the Ukrainians who were cleared, while the non-Ukrainians waited, were families with children—often single mothers, since fighting-aged men aren’t allowed to leave. Many of those Ukrainians had already been waiting more than 24 hours, and up to 72 hours, to cross. Those pulled out from the crowd were mostly, but not exclusively, younger, childless international students at Ukraine’s medical and business schools, from Africa and South Asia.

Ukrainian officials said their intention was to expedite families with small children. In less than a week, the country has processed more than 600,000 people exiting en masse through its normally sleepy border posts, an overwhelming load for a country attempting to defend its highways and major cities from the Russian military.

[quote] Yea, I was called a racist on DL when I said that Michelle wasn't the most beautiful American first lady.

RACIST!!!!

Many black Ukrainians are second or third generation bi-racial immigrants who are descendants of people recruited from Africa by the Soviet Union in the 1950s, or others who have personal ties to Ukraine by marriage, citizenship, and service in the Army. Those guys are not leaving; they are fighting in Ukraine with everyone else.

R239 Mothers with children, elderly? Didn't they hear the woke mantra: young black men first.

[quote]What is happening in Ukraine right now was facilitated by Trump,

Not everything is about Trump. Not everything is about America, you stupid fuckwit.

r8 though these days, despite for a few talking heads and idiot kids, most find tankies laughable... many African Americans (and other minorities) got duped by the soviet union in the prior century, then of course, the love affair within academics had existed much longer, attracting much of the intelligensia for generations, like James Baldwin to the more superficial fantasies among famed activist orgs:

r238 it's worse on LSA where you can't criticize the clusterfuck mess of Bel-Air but mainly how goofy the cast looks without being assaulted by angry fangurls.

r236 why do you hate biological women?

r231 black americans, sure. ados not so much.

[quote]Those pulled out from the crowd were mostly, but not exclusively, younger, childless international students at Ukraine’s medical and business schools, from Africa and South Asia.

Hm, they forgot to mention the part about them almost all being young and male in a situation where they are prioritizing women and children and where male Ukrainians between the ages of 16 and 60 aren't allowed to leave which necessitates them being doubly scrutinized. Also forgot to mention that the vast majority of those childless international students are all from Africa and South Asia because that's where the Ukraine recruits international students from. Not a lot of Irish students studying in Ukraine or there'd be an obvious outcry about the ginger discrimination, I'm sure.

Guess being completely honest takes too much of the victimhood aspect away to be reported.

[quote] While the welcome effort is impressively organized, arrivals universally described the journey from Ukraine as harrowing. Ibrahim Deally, 25, a native of Lebanon, had lived in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv for eight years, where he had been studying pediatric dentistry. He fled the day of the invasion, on February 24, and arrived in Przemyśl four days later, his journey culminating in a 26-hour train ride from Lviv. As the train was leaving, he said parents were staying behind and pushing their children onto the train. He said Ukraine was scarier than Lebanon: “Here, it felt like something bigger, and more barbaric.”

This sounds just awful...I can't imagine what people are going through there.

R165 So that makes their hate of people in their HOST country acceptable? Gotcha.

The "Ukranian Tranny Drama Thread", linked at R213, got nuked this morning.

[quote]they forgot to mention the part about them almost all being young and male in a situation where they are prioritizing women and children

Al Jazeera interviewed some black African female students who were dragged out of trains and buses by Ukrainian officers. One even claimed she was pulled by the hair. Stop making the Ukrainians out to be saints. They're not. They can suffer an invasion and still be racist bigots themselves.

[quote] Do blacks Americans have empathy for white people?

I can't speak for all of them but, if they didn't, it would be understandable.

Now I'll ask you a question. Have Ukrainians ever shown empathy for the plight of any black people around the world?

Ukrainians don't deserve to be invaded like this, but to act like the entire country's people are saints and blameless of various bigotries is ridiculous. It's entirely possible (and probable) that some are racist against black people. I fully believe the reports.

"They are 'civilised', 'European' and 'look like us'.

I'm sorry, trans is the new black.

[quote]More troubling still is that this kind of slanted and racist media coverage extends beyond our screens and newspapers and easily bleeds and blends into our politics. Consider how Ukraine’s neighbors are now opening their doors to refugee flows, after demonizing and abusing refugees, especially Muslim and African refugees, for years. “Anyone fleeing from bombs, from Russian rifles, can count on the support of the Polish state,” the Polish interior minister, Mariusz Kaminski, recently stated. Meanwhile, multiple reports indicate that Polish border guards are actively and forcibly turning away African students who were studying in Ukraine, thereby preventing them from crossing into safety.

Black Twitter is always on the right side of history and these reports only serve to prove it

^ Articlw.

R255, I believe the reports may be true, but the reason for pushing them could be yet another propaganda technique by Russia. Ukraine has some bigotry problems; but they’ve been working on them recently. They have a black member of Parliament. They have a centrist, libertarian government. Meanwhile, Putin allows blatant and open housing discrimination in Russia, where apartments are allowed to say they don’t rent to black people. The reaction to this news was predictable and it wouldn’t surprise me if some of the Twitter accounts pushing it are fakes. The real news is the invasion itself, which is an invasion of a far right government on a centrist government.

Read the account of the student on the train that I linked @ R249. Just a horrible situation, desperate parents pushing their children onto the trains. So tragic.

Oh fucking hell r256. Gotta love the Guardian!

[quote]What all these petty, superficial differences – from owning cars and clothes to having Netflix and Instagram accounts – add up to is not real human solidarity for an oppressed people. In fact, it’s the opposite. It’s tribalism. These comments point to a pernicious racism that permeates today’s war coverage and seeps into its fabric like a stain that won’t go away. The implication is clear: war is a natural state for people of color, while white people naturally gravitate toward peace.

I'm sorry but it's now racist to say something that's essentially the truth?

The Russian organization Nashi called itself “anti-fascist” but it groups liberals in with Nazis. It is a far right group that opposed women’s and LGBT rights. This double speak that Putin uses has been going on for more than a decade. “Anti-facist” can mean far-right though in the U.S. we associate it with far-left.

Truth be told, Whites, Latinos and Asians avoid black neighborhoods all across America because of racist harassment and violence.

I agree with the article from the Guardian expect for one thing and that is the taking in of refugees.

Most European nations, Canada, and the US have taken in plenty of people from the ME and Africa. We in the west could do more to help those fleeing war-torn countries of course, but I do balk at the suggestion that western nations are only helping fleeing Ukrainians because "they look like us."

I mentioned earlier that Canada has agreed to take in 4000 Ukrainians, and that is a good thing, but we have also helped 10s of thousands of others and I don't like the suggestion that we care less about people from other parts of the world.

I remember how outraged the average Canadian was back in 2015 at the death of poor Alan Kurdi. His death motivated thousands of Canadians to do what they could to help fleeing Syrians and Trudeau's promise to help Syrians was one of the deciding factors in the 2015 federal election when the federal Liberals won a majority government.

There's a time and a place to make oneself the center of a story. This is not the time or place to whine about supposed racism in the Ukraine, especially when the proof is specious. The 'boy who cries wolf' theory stands. People are sick of hearing about it. Not everything is racist. It's laughable at this point and the SJWokesters have managed to turn their former supporters off. They and the T contingent are both overplaying their weakening hands.

R254 quote "I can't speak for all of them but, if they didn't, it would be understandable. Now I'll ask you a question. Have Ukrainians ever shown empathy for the plight of any black people around the world?"

I have never been in Ukraine, but throughout ex socialist Eastern Europe including Soviet union which part Ukraine was people were empathizing with the suffering of blacks in various wars for independence and wars like Rwanda, Congo.

A and never tried to actively undermine an defame Africans even when they were committing some atrocities (but real atrocities, not fake news) against their innocent white neighbors. People would say shit happens in war.

People were actively helping African nations and Ukraine as part of Soviet union had good relations with African countries, even helping their fight for independence, helping with education, building infrastructure. Helping with hunger in Ethiopia, Somalia. They never committed guilt of exploiting blacks like Us or colonizing Africa like western forces.

The situation with black Americans is different as I see it. That is why I ask in case I might be wrong, but you affirmed my suppositions.

Black people have issues with centuries of discrimination in US, but now when they are getting equality seems they are not capable of empathizing with suffering of other human beings, who have different color of skin. If I am wrong, please correct me.

The truth is that Putin is beating US and west with their own weapon, racial hysteria and "white liberal guilt". He started "Ukrainian are racists" propaganda and fake news with the little help of his friends Indians and Nigerians, because he knows that the wokes and US blacks will drink it as the Perrier.

The story about some Nigerians who were waiting on the Polish border full of children, elderly people also waiting for long hours and had some administrative problems because they had no visa to enter EU together with white non EU citizens and eventually got to get out of the country is hollow, illogical and fishy. What was done to said Nigerians. In which way were they treated badly? No answers.

But many black Americans were so thrilled to get black in the center of the attention. Quite a few said: we don't care it is white against white. But it soon inflamed social networks. The hurt feeling of few Nigerians moma's boys are worth more than 100 white children killed. The evil white men on the road again. White wokes are also consternated: do the people empathize more with white European victims?

The answer is, some people do, but not the wokes and the majority of blacks have no empathy for white victim at all, even if it is a little blonde girl on the cover of Guardian with the sensational headline: Do we care about Ukrainians more then we did about Middle eastern victims. (the cynical answer is: maybe you do cause Ukrainians are Russian's victims and Middle eastern people were your own victims). A grown man, a journalist with non Europan name is jealous of the little girl in war zone, who are they employing in the papers these days?

Putin is just using the ammunition the west gave him and striking back in the war of propaganda. It is not his story (even though i don't think that he is particularly racist, but being from Eastern Europe burden of black-white divide isn't his).

[quote]The implication is clear: war is a natural state for people of color, while white people naturally gravitate toward peace.

I'm sorry, but most black neighborhoods in the US resemble war zones. That statement is not untrue.

And R254 when you say that lack of empathy for whites in black people would be understandable, this is a crazy statement.

No matter the racism and discrimination, so many times whites have stood for blacks. When they abolished the slavery and in mass protest after Floyd's murder. White liberals fighting for equality etc.

But can't you see, if blacks have no empathy for other races it would make them deranged human beings. How van they be in high administrative positions, judges, doctors, civil servants?

Empathy is the highest quality in human beings. A person without empathy is a mere sociopath. Many people have been hurt, victimized and have mental health consequences, but if it makes you a hater of whole race, what to do with such people?

[quote] The "Ukranian Tranny Drama Thread", linked at [R213], got nuked this morning

All the Transvestite Threads seem to be evaporating.

R263 The Guardian is Woke-Speak, non-stop.

[quote]Empathy is the highest quality in human beings. A person without empathy is a mere sociopath. Many people have been hurt, victimized and have mental health consequences, but if it makes you a hater of whole race, what to do with such people?

Reading through your posting history on this thread you seem to have deep, intimate experience with sociopathic behavior.

I hope the FBI is keeping tabs on you.

R254 And where was it written that some Eastern European country should have been careful to demonstrate its bona fides by expressing sympathy for black people "around the world"? Like, Ukraine should be up to date on American history? Is Africa entitled to special mention, especially given its own penchant for corruption and violence, particularly against women. It's not as if blackness was a prominent feature of the culture or history of Ukraine. Has Japan expressed sympathy for black people around the world? Has Turkey? Has Greenland? Has Lativa? Estonia? Romania? Bulgaira?

I mean, WTF?!! Since when is any country anywhere held to account for not making a governmental statement about "the plight of black people around the world".

Fuck, Africans are fucking up Africa, it has more corrupt governments than anywhere else in the world - its selling its soul to the Chinese . . .

"When has Ukraine expressed sympathy for black people around the world"

EVERY NATION ON EARTH MUST STAND UP AND EXPRESS SYMPATHY FOR BLACK PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD.

Or else.

Jesus. Do you ever listen to yourself?!

^*it's (not its) selling its soul to the Chinese

Eh, the whole racist border story is dying--given what's actually happening in Ukraine, it seems very besides the point.

The Palestinians are fussing about Israel, but nothing new there.

[quote] And where was it written that some Eastern European country should have been careful to demonstrate its bona fides by expressing sympathy for black people "around the world"? Like, Ukraine should be up to date on American history?

Americans are the most narcissistic fuckers on Earth. They can't see anything elsewhere in the world unless it's through their own lens and how it relates to their own experiences, and they are woefully ignorant of how the rest of the world works.

R272, race itself is a fiction. There are people from vastly different backgrounds and with different personalities that have the same skin color. The more liberal the government, the more apparent that is. Japan treated its prisoners of war well during the First World War, but became known for war crimes in the second, and why? Probably because its government by the Second World War had absolutely no tolerance for dissent. China was the hero of the Second World War, but what will they do to that reputation if they become known for ruthlessly suppressing dissent now? The serfs in Russia were freed in 1861, two years before the emancipation proclamation in the US. Slavery is about power and institutions that support that kind of power, not about race. And people who walk past homeless people and feel no empathy are as indifferent to human suffering as poor people who commit robbery without violence I would guess. People are afraid and want to keep what they have. We’re all that way to some extent.

Also, just because the government does something doesn’t mean everyone in a country feels that way. History tends to talk about what governments do, which just fuels more nationalism on all sides. Some Japanese officials attempted a coup of their military in 1936 and defected to China.

African and India students should be able to return to their own countries. Their governments should be organizing transport for them rather than expecting other countries to do it. Poland is in the EU. If you admit people who don't have visas for the EU, you'll find them travelling elsewhere on the Continent and exploiting local social resources. That Poland is willing to do it for Ukrainians is an exception. They have to no reason to admit Africans and Indians to the EU.

The Western media: make it all about 1. BLACK 2. TRANS

[quote] The Western media: make it all about 1. BLACK 2. TRANS

It should be all about that.

Poland lets a handful of those Nigerians and Muslims in and next thing you know they'll be 20,000 deep lined up at the border.

Correction:

Datalounge: make it all about: 1. BLACK 2. TRANS

Thank god you're here to offer the unrepresented black trans perspective, r286.

r286 Ah ok. Datalounge forced France24, BBC, CNN, Guardian, NYTimes, Reuters, CBS, Time, Wall Street Journal, Vice, Teen Vogue, Rolling Stone, Metro, Huffpost, etc. to make it all about them.

Wow! Behold the hypocrisy at r269, r272 and r276 who demanded "empathy" from black Americans but went into full meltdown mode when Ukrainians are called out for their decades of racist treatment of blacks, Asians and Middle-Easterners. This time they were actually preventing black people from fleeing a war that has nothing to do with them.

[quote]I have never been in Ukraine, but throughout ex socialist Eastern Europe including Soviet union which part Ukraine was people were empathizing with the suffering of blacks in various wars for independence and wars like Rwanda, Congo.

Sir, I'd assumed you're Ukrainian. What country are you from, if I may ask? And what's with fixation on black people?

[quote] Ukraine has some bigotry problems; but they’ve been working on them recently. They have a black member of Parliament.

The same black MP who was their only gold medalist at the Tokyo Olympics and still suffered racist abuse from Ukrainians? I'll tell you one thing. Black people have excellent BS-detectors when it comes to such matters and when they don't "empathise" it's often because they suspect you would not hesitate to throw them under bus when things come to a crunch.

That said, Black people have long taken up the Palestenian cause, even when it's not as convinient in the West, because they know an oppressed people when they see one.

Indians are bitching all over twitter about how mean the Ukrainians are not to let them push Ukrainian women and kids off the bus to let those entitled assholes on. Those fuckers' President Modi is Putin's pal, refusing to condemn Russia's actions. Fuck you, Indians.

[quote] Ukraine Acknowledges Racist Treatment Of Africans Fleeing Russian Invasion - Ukraine’s foreign minister said that African immigrants seeking to evacuate “need to have equal opportunities to return to their home countries safely.”

That is not an acknowledgement of racism. The willingness to essentially lie to prove a point just gets more rampant.

That's the Huffpost R291. Accurate reporting isn't exactly their forte.

it's not war in Ukraine, is it? Or more Negro problems? Did poor Debbie Reynolds have a nervous breakdown?

R289 Touched the nerve, ha. Because you are the one seriously deranged fucker. People are getting killed and you get off on some incidents that can happen anywhere in the world. SO every single Ukrainian is guilty for incidents that happened to that black athlete. You can read any day on DL of black guys attacking vulnerable women or old men in US, yet nobody is trying to force guilt on whole black community.

But you are the one that I was talking about. You hate whites, every single one of them, so much that you can not feel anything for people being bombed, not even for the children. Your so called empathy for Palestinians is based solely on Jew hating.

And you know what is the real difference. That people empathize with Ukrainians or Middle Eastern without asking "what have they done for me".

News outlets apologising for racist coverage.

[quote]Black people have long taken up the Palestenian cause, even when it's not as convinient in the West, because they know an oppressed people when they see one.

R289 Always wondered about the wisdom/sanity of black people supporting the "oppressed" who call them 'abid', slave, a pejorative for anyone with dark skin in Gaza and Ramallah.

r296 I know. Osama bin Laden used to refer to Obama by that word "abid" too and considered it an insult to Arabs that Americans would elect and force them to deal with a Black man. This while maintaining his crush on Whitney Houston and possibly masturbating a storm in a cave over her photos.

Interesting r294, how you're all over this thread demanding people answer you while you haven't responded to any of my points.

R298 I asked about the black majority, and I am still waiting for the answers. Description at R294 was yours personally. Don't tell me all Blacks are racists like you.

Because, since I am not racist I can separate you from from all the other Blacks. Which you (you personally) can't do when it comes to white people. For you all 44 millions of Ukrainians have attacked the black athletes, black students, even the newborns in the bombed maternity hospital.

Racists incidents happen everywhere. Eminem, who grew up in black neighborhood, was constantly the victim of racist attacks cause he was the only white kid around. White farmers in Zimbabwe (born there) and elsewhere in Africa were forced to move away because of the racists attacks. As I mentioned white women are constantly the target of some black idiots in US. Bill Cosby was only raping white women.

Yet, people who are not haters are not going to hold this against the whole nation, race etc. I am not claiming that all blacks are filled with hate, just given the hysteria on black's social media I asked a simple question, because I don't know black people. I only heard anti white racists or hysterical people social media. And the question is: Can the majority of black people empathize with whites? Even if the fake news about black students were true (but nobody ever said what exactly happened to them except that they had administrative problems entering Poland- EU) can you really blame all the nation (which is now in far worse position than mentioned students) for a behavior of a border policeman. Can you blame all Americans for Abu Ghraib?

Gays were attacked too in Ukraine. Of course, Ukrainians are not saints and there are idiots attacking blacks, gypsies, gays, Russians etc. (Just like there are lot of thugs and violent African Americans.)But I haven't heard a single gay man rejoicing for the suffering of Ukrainians.

But when you have poisoned mind like you can use any pretext to rejoice the killing and destruction. I really do feel sorry for you, because you must have serious issues to be that vengeful.

And it was mentioned that the black athlete is a MP. So, there must have been Ukrainians who voted for him, not just the few thugs that attacked him on the street. But, you see the racism is when you can not understand that.

About Bill Cosby, I remember how Kid Cudi called out the mass idiocy of people, even women, who were rejoicing his liberation.

r299 Still won't say which country you're from, huh? Is it a secret because you're ashamed? Or is it just a glass house from which no one should be throwing stones?

[quote]I asked about the black majority, and I am still waiting for the answers. Description at [R294] was yours personally.

I told you up thread, if someone purports to speak for the majority of black people, the typical black response would be: "No one told me MLK was back and on Twitter".

But my answer wouldn't matter, would it? You have it in your head that black people are a certain way and you want me to reinforce it for you, right? Plenty of racist posters here to help you do that, but it won't come from me.

R301 Silly old queen, that I am ashamed! I don't have complexes like you.

I am from the best part of the world, from Balkans and from the best of Balkans, Croatia.

^ Now, that wasn't so hard, was it? Now, what's with your obsession with black people? I know your people are as racist as other Eastern Europeans (including Russians and Ukrainians) and only a black person with a death wish would choose to live in Croatia, the alleged "best part of the world", if you say so. Such charmers, your people.

Lavrov was on GMA this morning peddling his shit about racist Ukrainians who won't let Africans and Indians leave. Conveniently, Putin has good relations with Modi and no Africans are bothering to show solidarity with anybody, So this is just one more propaganda war. Lavrov was claiming Zelensky is a neoNazi and poor Russian speakers in Ukraine can't get Ukrainians to serve them at the grocery store. This isn't a joke. They're insane.

[quote]and no Africans are bothering to show solidarity with anybody,

Really?

R305, Careful because as much as I like this guy he also was spreading the racist BS about black experiences in evacuating.

Lavrov was pushing this story today. This is how you beat the West, you spin racism and they're terrified of being called racists and throw in the towel. Putin knows us so well.

R303 No problem at all. From all your drivel I didn't notice your question about my whereabouts.

Although you wouldn't know the difference between Croatia and Iceland. Yet you know you hate it. Anyway, It would not be for you. It isn't for the scared bigoted anti white old queen, for sure.

So, you already hated Ukraine before these pathetic accusations from Nigerian clowns. Should have told so, not fooling us here all day.

And you hate the whole half of one continent, from North to south through center. Good for you, you are quite a hater. Hater of the year. I see what is your problem with Eastern Europe, too many whites are living there.

What obsession with Blacks are you talking about? Isn't this the "pushed because we are black" thread?

You know what is your problem, you are projecting your racism on others. Because I have never communicated with someone so obsessed with race before. I do feel sorry for you, a big complex must be lying underneath this crazy shit.

Foreign visitors were directed to use one exit route, ignored the instruction, showed up at the wrong place, and were turned away.

This is propaganda.

Black men before white women and children!!!!!!

(They didn't notice that white men weren't getting across the Polish border, either, unless they were too old to fight. Most of the black students were young men.)

France 24 and Al Jazeera interviewed several young black female students who were dragged out of trains and buses by Ukrainian soldiers.

r307 I'm anti-Putin/-Russia in general and pro-Ukraine in this (and know about the more open general racist and homophobic tendency there, but so are the black countries, but I'm digressing). I know the propaganda way to push pro-Russian stance.

But people can't blame Putin/Russia for everything. Who wrote and published countless Black Trans Sexworker pieces? Who enthusiastically bought into these and did their activism? Are these black people talking on videos Russian actors?

They're not responsible for the West's hysterical demographics who cannot research, think, spot the nuances, details, etc.

On Joy Reid's show, Ali Velshi waited for a train to arrive from Ukraine and immediately jumped on a guy from Cameroon to hear about how mistreated he'd been. Guy didn't have any complaints and said he wants to go back to Ukraine. Ali and Joy were rather disappointed.

r312, what on earth are you talking about

There's a war on, you know

DW English interviewed two guys waiting to get over the border. One from India was bitching because they had to wait while Ukrainians were getting through. The Egyptian guy said he had a home to go to and the Ukrainians were being bombed out of their homes. They got through a few hours later.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Again, they're being let through AFTER they raised hell.

No R316, they were processing Ukrainian women and children first. Young men can stand a little longer in the cold.

The difference in treatment is staggering.

[quote]No [R316], they were processing Ukrainian women and children first. Young men can stand a little longer in the cold.

What about black women?

R221, if you’re going to use French words, phrases, proper nouns, etc., you could, at the very least, have the decency and courtesy to use correct spelling (e.g., Médecins Sans Frontières). I understand your zeal re this topic, but good grammar is always important. Thx much!😄

[quote]Silly old queen

Our resident Croat loves to hurl those epithets to insult people (why is it so hard to find anyone of a polite disposition in the Balkans? They're all so rude over there) but while I've often been called "silly" by some, I'm neither "old" nor a "queen". At least not in the sense you mean. Make no mistake, I like men, but you wouldn't think I had a single feminine bone in my body if you saw me.

[quote]What about black women?

There were none that I saw. But if there were, they'd have to wait until Ukrainians were processed.

I watched TV all day, in absolute terror. The people exiting Ukraine were 90% women and kids. Hardly any men but the few young men I saw were Africans. So they're leaving while young Ukrainian men are staying.

Compare that to Syria, where most of the refugees were young men.

It's their country, r323. Why are many people demanding Africans fight for and lose their lives for Ukraine? As if white people don't evacuate at the first sign of trouble in third world countries.

r319 "processing Ukrainian women and children first". In such a chaotic situation, esp. at the beginning, I can see why they're prioritising Ukrainian citizens

I don't think Africans or anyone else is obligated to stay and fight. But neither should they be prioritizing them over Ukrainian citizens.

Except they weren't asking to be prioritized. They wanted to be allowed to leave.

[quote]Except they weren't asking to be prioritized. They wanted to be allowed to leave.

Have you never left Russia, Pavel? Whenever you leave or enter a country, you have to show paperwork. Whether it's passports, visas, etc. They were allowed to leave...after the Ukrainian women and children were allowed to leave.

The Daily Show today. It's one of the biggest stories now.

Civilized Ukraine.

It's to late at night For Robbins or a poem No haiku for you

Trevor Noah can eat a bad of dicks. Smug asshole.

R318, Mombasa doesn't have a million people trying to leave at once.

[quote] Trevor Noah can eat a bad of dicks. Smug asshole.

He can afford to be smug; he's a socialist worth $100 million.

Maybe he can save some of the refugees, then. Put them up in his enormous apartment.

I can't stand this guy.

he came to the US to make big money and he immediately started insulting the US. I feel like some old soldier, but I was offended. Worse, he wasn't very witty or clever about it.

R321 I don't know about your age, but your posts just scream princess.

I think you made a mistake, did you mean to say there is not a masculine bone in your body. Maybe even me, a rude Balkanic, would treat you like a lady if I saw you.

Trevor Noah is African so he's not gonna let such bullshit fly.

R296 R297 The black princess at R289 knows that Arabs aren't black friendly, but has heard that they are ass friendly.

Maybe there would be less racism against Africans in Ukraine if any of the men who go there to get a free education their backward countries can't provide, had the balls to stay and fight. Bunch of cowards.

^ They don't get a free education, r341. They pay tuition that helps keep Ukrainian universities afloat.

Why don't they go to University in Nigeria?

Don't know about Ukraine, but African students flood into colleges in France, all expenses paid by the French government (same is true in most West European countries) to 'help' Africa progress. Then, they don't want to leave, marry white women and don't give a shit about their country.

^ What? Like scholarships? You don't want Africans getting those? But you're lying, most Africans studying in Europe pay tuition.

R345 I went to university in France. All the subsidized student housing went to students from 'Third World Countries' aka Africa. Then they won't leave again so the whole Good Deed of educating Africans to help Africa progress is lost.

So what exactly are you complaining about, r346? That Africans shouldn't be allowed to study in France and the subsidized student housing should go to Americans like you?

The reason there are so many African students in France is the same as why there are so many Indian students in the US, the UK and Canada. The Africans are francophones. They come from french-speaking countries which share a long history with France going back to colonial times.

Fuck, R347, he's debunking the idea that the African students in Ukraine all paid their way rather than get scholarships etc. He's debunking the argument that maybe the African students could show some support for Ukraine and not high tail it out of there and refuse to help. He's not complaining about them getting free housing or schooling.

Seriously, way to completely spin the argument and weaponize it against anyone trying to make the point. Why don't you call R346 a racist while you're at it?

Ben Crump is on it.

R349 They coukd called themselves Black cunts. Sorry to offend cunts.

Sorry, should called themselves Black cunts.

How do the African students even communicate in Ukraine? Some speak broken French, some speak broken English but I doubt if any of them have learned broken Ukrainian.

R349, he really is a narcissistic, greedy POS.

Benjamin Crump needs to get married to man or change his surname by deed poll.

Crump's the ultimate ambulance chaser.

Crump deserves his own TV show.

Why are you all so upset? Because Ukraine is being exposed for the racist place it is?

r357 it's been explained that Ukranian citizens were given priority. Other white non-citizens were not allowed first in line either. Also, there were passport issues.

No R357 ,we are "upset" because unfortunately one of America's exports seems to be the idea that every black person,no matter where on this planet,is a victim of racism. Even if its their own country and by their own people,its whiteys fault. Children are being killed,families torn apart,and we get to hear from a bunch of Nigerians how the white man treated them unfairly. Never mind that most of them are indeed pieces of shit from a piece of shit country and now they might have to go back to said piece of shit country wich they had zero intentions of doing. Fuck them,and fuck you race baiting bitch. People like you are going to be at fault for a backlash against black people. Read the story of the Boy who cried wolf and really think about what its saying,you putz.

Other countries should step in to help the students.

Trying to force foreign students to fight their war. The audacity! I bet they didn't ask any white European or American ex-pats to do the same.

The BBC explains why there are so many African and Indian students in Ukraine.

[quote]I bet they didn't ask any white European or American ex-pats to do the same.

Because there really weren't many to begin with, and they all got out weeks or even months ago.

Nigerian medical student Jessica Okrapo's first-hand account.

^ Forcing a pregnant woman to walk 12 hours. She says the problem was not on the Polish side of the border, but the Ukrainian side. They're the ones pushing them back.

[quote]Some students have told the BBC 1Xtra podcast, If You Don't Know, that their universities refused to move their classes online before the invasion despite repeated requests to do so.

[quote]"The university ignored our pleas and concerns for over one month," said Mary, a Nigerian medical student in her final year, studying in north-eastern Ukraine.

[quote]She said they had begged the university to allow them to leave but, she added, the students were told they would be fined if they missed their classes, which is standard policy in some Ukrainian universities, so "we didn't have a choice".

Okay so here's the thing: When a fucking INVASION and a fucking WAR are inevitable and everybody knows it, you GET THE FUCK OUT. Period. Your life is more important than anything else.

[quote]Mary's university admitted that it did not believe Russia would really attack but denied sanctioning students who decided to leave the country ahead of the invasion. It moved classes online for all students the day before Russian forces entered Ukraine.

They've known for weeks this was coming.

[quote]Christophe, a 22-year-old Cameroonian student, spoke to the BBC from inside a basement in the southern city of Kherson, which has been taken by Russian forces. "We are not going outside because we are scared." He said that he and more than 20 fellow students had spent the past week in a basement with no light, listening to the sound of shelling and gun-shots. "It's like a dead city, there's no-one outside at all." [bold]He said he had not seen any sign of African people being harassed during the conflict but he thought to wise to stay inside.[/bold] "It's the most safe thing to do right now, we don't want to put ourselves in danger.""It's difficult to imagine finishing your studies in this sort of environment," he said.

So many students couldn't leave because the Universities wouldn't let them.

[quote] "The term ‘walking’ is traumatising me. The term ‘walking’. Literally, as a black person… I even lied that I was pregnant, they didn’t care. I was begging. The official literally looked me in my eye and said, in his language: […] And the Ukrainians are only prioritising their citizens. It is a traumatising experience."

r365 Maybe they saw through her lie? Maybe not. Yeah, amid chaos, how dare they prioritising their citizens. How dare the Slavs speak their language. How dare they make only non-Ukrainians walk and experience trauma..

[quote]So many students couldn't leave because the Universities wouldn't let them.

They weren't being held at gunpoint. They could've taken a train or a plane.

[bold]Having invested a lot of money in an education in Ukraine,[/bold] many students have told the BBC that they were torn between returning home or staying in Europe to complete their degrees. Jessica Orakpo, a sixth-year medical student at the Ternopil National Medical University, was four months away from graduating when the Russian troops invaded. [bold]"I'm stuck now, I can't move forward with my education because my school has all my documents,"[/bold] she told the BBC on her way to the Hungarian capital, Budapest. "I don't have time to start all over again and I just want my degree. Maybe I can finish my master's somewhere else." [bold]Hungary and Ghana have announced that some students who had fled Ukraine will be allowed to complete their studies in Hungarian universities. They will provide space and resources and the students will pay the same fees as in Ukraine.[/bold] But it is not clear how many of the African and Asian students will be covered by this deal.

Imagine six years of your life down the drain. Credit to Hungary and Ghana for stepping up.

R364 The BBC is no longer a reliable source of factual information.

It's a very useful source if you want to be preached at by Woke Social Justice Warriors who want to change how human beings think.

Did all you sjw bitches not catch the part about easy admission standards,cheap courses and getting a degree there offers them more job opportunities in EUROPE ? Oh and the very last line from the Nigerian student "Going back to Nigeria is not an option".

^

Why isn't it an option? What new Emotional Blackmail is being foisted upon us?

Disingenuous argument from, r372. He clearly means going back without finishing his studies is not an option. Their families have sacrificed a lot to pay for their education and returning without qualifications would not be optimal.

[quote]getting a degree there offers them more job opportunities in EUROPE ?

And? What's so bad about this? The market decides if Europe has enough qualified workforce, right?

Oh you poor naive soul r375

r372 Stats show the vast majority of African and Indian students who graduate from European universities end up in their home countries. But even if they didn't why would it bother you? Europe is always saying it wants a skilled workforce. Right now the UK is aggressively recruiting hospital staff from Commonwealth countries like India, Ghana and Nigeria.

I don't get your point, r376. These are educated, qualified people, correct. Unless it's their skin tone you find so jarring?

The market isn't exactly the barometer. But you knew that.

A Turkish guy tells ABC that he saw with his own eyes blacks being singled out and beaten at the border.

Shameful behaviour.

[quote] Shameful behaviour

I don't feel ashamed, R381.

Media racism called out.

People, you are discussing with one black lunatic that hated Eastern Europeans (and anyone white) before all this happened. It is like reasoining with Trump.

Africans who finally made it out of Ukraine thanked Romania for its hospitality.

Stories of r war, anti-blackness and white supremacy.

"One Nigerian medical student, who had been studying in Dnipro and asked not to be named, said the British students he studied with were bused to the Polish border by university authorities, while Africans were left behind."

This Nigerian girl says she didn't face any problems and it was a smooth exit for her.

This Francophone African student says they don't have the right to cross the border.

Human Rights Watch is on it.

First-hand account by young African lady. "I did not know the extent of the racism".

They don't invent the term Nigerian scam for nothing.

The definition of Nigerian scam broadening.

Nigeria is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet. And, let's be frank, most people are most comfortable with people who look like them and share their culture. Places like Hungary and Ukraine only have to look at the shredding cultures of Sweden, Belgium (which didn't take much, considering how divided it already was just between its French and Flemish halves), Britain, and France, to decide they don't want to go full-on multicultural. Multiculturalism is the most overrated myth of the modern age. No one goes around calling Nigeria because out of 160 million people it only has 90,000 white people living there.

Somehow, blacks always make it about them. Stay home, fix your own countries, and stop insisting that everyone else wrap themselves around you and your fucking cultural identity crisis.

Putin knew who he should call to send the Nigerian letter to media.

^*no one goes around calling Nigeria racist or insufficiently multiracial because . . .

It's a given that every African or ME country has the right to be totally black or totally Muslim or totally Arab . . . only when it comes to white people is it suddenly an aberration to want to keep their cultures the way they like them, too.

The woman at R391 is either an obvious Putin troll or mentally challenged. She was living among Ukrinians and only now she noticed the extent of racism.

I don't believe that all these people even were at Ukraine. The Nigerian are world famous scammers and it was so easy for Putin to buy their service.

And considering that blacks are treated as very fashionable victims by woke America and UK this was a very clever move by Putin. Propaganda was always his forte.

And I remembered that Putin was trying to proclaim Ukrainians to be neo Nazis. But now that they have a Jewish leader and the Nazis are really so yesterday news, he had to find something new. And Nigerian scammers have such fair price and racism is so fashionable.

At least they found a good client in Putin.

From Nazism to more modern "racism"

Putin and Africans.

African friends.

[quote] Forcing a pregnant woman to walk 12 hours. She says the problem was not on the Polish side of the border, but the Ukrainian side. They're the ones pushing them back.

She was not pregnant. She LIED to get on a bus - a bus going to the wrong destination. Nigeria had made arrangements with Romania to take its students and fly them back home. Do you think that medical students were too stupid to know this? Perhaps they didn't want to end up in Romania as an alternative to going home because it has a shitty health care system and the jobs suck. I also find hinky the idea that google maps said that the walk was one hour but it turned out to be 12 . . . really?

And, yes, you were taken off the bus because it was going to a border that was officially only allowing Ukrainian citizens in. Hellooooo.

And why would your records be lost in this day and age - do these schools not have records online?

Perhaps these students deliberately ignored the country instructions as to which border to go to or they just knew they wanted to go to the Polish border?

I get that people wanted to finish their educations but that seems like very poor judgment when a war is looming. I suspect many of them thought this was a way to get into the rest of Europe - by becoming refugees - a status that can get you a lot of benefits and sympathy if you are smart enough to make it work for you.

These false accusations of racism are disgusting and are fueled by Russian propaganda. Anyone spreading them should be called out. Fuck these grifters.

R403 Maybe the money they received from Putin will help them to continue their schooling elsewhere.

To the racist above, Nigeria is just one of 54 countries on the African continent. Whatever happens there isn't representative. The students at r389 or r391 aren't even Nigerian.

R405 a lot of the students appear to be from the Congo which makes Nigeria look like the Most Advanced Civilization in the History of the World.

If they're from the Congo, they'd be speaking Frrench.

R407 they were speaking Congolese-tinged French. I keep wondering how these students are actually studying in Ukraine. Seems obvious they don't speak Ukrainian or Russian.

Of course they don't speak the language R408. Most of them have never seen Ukraine.

Assaulted for being Indian.

The most of the accusers are from Nigeria, but R405 is discriminating against other Africans nations. Who says they can't scam as good as Nigerians. And of course Russian friends Indians joined the victim train. But it seems that real students from Kenya were not discriminated against.

Why isn't BLM on this? They have millions - can't they help?

Over 80,000 foreign students.

Who says that Congo is behind Nigeria.

The media say that experts are calling it classic racial profiling.

Indians tortured at the border.

Joy Reid and her experts discuss.

From a CNN reporter, a thread with a detailed account from his sister of racism at the border. She's trapped in Ukraine.

We don't need links to the entire fucking Internet, thanks.

While African students of medicine run away pushing women and children, French doctors going to war zone to help. They are mensch.

While the poor Africans are whining, Ukrainians are having the ball.

Ecce homo.

I read somewhere that one of the children's hospitals was running out of painkillers. How awful.

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A different picture than the Russian propaganda.

R411, Kenya has been in a war for the past decade, fighting alongside the US against the Islamic State of Somalia since 2011. The war is being waged partly in Northeast Kenya. So they certainly understand what it means to be in a war zone and they support Ukraine.

Maybe if the young African hunks have put the baby pacifier in mouth they would have passed the border more easily.

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Anti white racists are batshit crazy, they are even jealous of women and children refugees from war zones just because they have light skin.

Blacks stir up trouble and violence wherever they go. Nobody wants them in their neighborhoods or in their schools. And Poland certainly doesn't want them barging into the EU.

Ain't nuthin to do with us, this is just white people killin' each other.

In the interest of fairness, there are Africans who say they've received nothing but kindness from Ukrainians and blame the reports on "panic". What would you call these in America?

Putin's pushing the racist angle and you get race baiters like Mehdi Hasan promoting it. Fuck 'em.

The guy at r433 sounds like one of those super-optimistic glass-half-full people that he would literally walk over coals and call it a red carpet.

May be he is just a normal man, not a whiny little pussy R435

R433, even having to do all these things - the hours on the bus and walking, staying in shelters, etc. is safer by far than having to stay in the country. It makes me think of what people endure after a hurricane- you may lose your home and possessions but you’re still glad to escape the hurricane. The racism angle is being actively pushed by Russia’s propaganda machine to dissuade people from sending aid. The less people who send aid, the worse the conditions are for everyone. And Putin’s Russia is not less racist than Ukraine.

I think this is such a shameless non-story that I am embarrassed in the midst of war and a terrible humanitarian crisis, that US citizens and other non-Ukrainians are exploiting these twisted narratives and lies to advance themselves and their careers.

I'm looking at you, Bejamin Crump.

Granted, there are non-white Ukrainians, but it isn’t a secret economic migrants have camped out in Belarus, Ukraine, Turkey, and other non-EU countries until they can figure out how to continue westward.

I’ve been to Ukraine and even if it isn’t a wealthy country, the people were living 1st world lives until their lives were upended overnight. People fleeing immediate danger and going to a neighboring country is the very definition of a refugee. People taking advantage of the situation is disgusting.

Fact: India, Nigeria et al should’ve been responsible for getting their citizens out of Ukraine when it was made perfectly clear an attack was imminent. Additionally, those students who make it to Poland shouldn’t have shit to say when they’re immediately deported to their home country, and they should under no circumstances be granted refugee status.

Imagine six-seven years of medical school up in flames like that. R439, they absolutely deserve what Hungary has offered some: continuation of their studies at the same tuition costs as they were paying in Ukraine. But most just want to go home and are doing so as planes keep arriving every day.

R439, the whole thing is like a propaganda attempt from all sides. First, promote videos with students complaining of racism. Then, lose some support. Second, make sure Ukrainians are aware of the videos/news stories/lost support and thereby fuel acts or speech with very transparent and clear cut racism. Lose more support, and lend credibility to the original propaganda. The post that people who were living “first world lives” deserve to continue living “first world lives” while poor people deserve to remain poor also reads like a propaganda post to me / for one thing it makes sweeping generalizations about the black people leaving Ukraine, many of whom led first world lives too, and for another it expresses indifference to the ongoing suffering of poor people and was probably meant to drive a backlash. No, it wasn’t made perfectly clear an attack was imminent on all of Ukraine. Many people thought right till the last minute that the attack would be limited to the separatist regions that have been fighting for the past 8 years. Also, the fact that Ukraine welcomes and recruits African students is a positive for Ukraine’s image in disputing Russian propaganda.

Putin knows how to manipulate US public opinion: push the racism angle and the US media will melt. Arresting a lesbian black basketball player however may be an own goal.

Eastern Europe is much more white than Western Europe. It's absurd to suppose that there won't be the slightest problem walking into a place like Poland, Ukraine, or Hungary. Ffs, there were, like, 2-3 million Jews in Hungary before WWII; now, there are less than 100,000. Ditto Poland. There used to be millions of Jews in Russia, too - now there are about 150,000. You have to wonder why Africans and Indians picked Eastern Europe instead of places like Britain and France and Sweden.

That said, the foreign students were told not to go to the Polish border, and most of the students were men. I'm extremely suspicious of the stories about being "beaten" by Ukrainian border guards unless. of course, the students were trying to push past others in lines . . .

R438 Benjamin Crump is a mono-maniac.

R443 The Russians have made in-roads in Africa and India's fascist Modi is an ally of Putin's. Not harder than that. The Russians are pushing this narrative knowing the Woke West can't resist Racism as the News of the Day.

[quote] the Woke West

If Arnold Toynbee were here he'd be saying that our civilisation is crumbling.

I think this war is going to snuff out wokism.

Wokism can only survive in rich countries with no external threats.

r443 Yes not everything must be rosy amid chaos and tension but I've watched videos like this too and the guy at r433 also mentioned on his IG that there were lots who cut in line and pushed women and children

That was horrifying, R449. I hope those vile creatures are promptly deported, even if they did manage to make it to Poland.

As the foreign students are not Ukrainians, it isn't the problem of Europe to provide them with food and housing. Their home countries should send planes to evacuate them.

I thought Joy Reid was going to get through an hour covering Ukraine without pointing out racism is the real issue. Alas, in the last couple of minutes, she stuck in her Racism Rant!

R452, she must be so mad that this war is making her viewpoints irrelevant.

Oh thank you, R452. I must go check it out and have a good laugh. I'll bet there are reaction videos by black conservatives aka normal black folk. They only get called conservative cause they ain't far left.

[quote]I'll bet there are reaction videos by black conservatives aka normal black folk.

The delusion on this site is real LMAO 🤣

Earlier I watched news about the Ukrainians trying to evacuate and get out of areas. They were all WALKING. And being shot at. Old people, families. It was terrible and they were standing out in the cold. I didn't really hear anyone bitching about it the way I heard some of those foreign students bitching.

Foreign students are the elite of the elite in their miserable backward countries. So they think they really are an elite. The rudest people I ever met in Europe were from third world countries. Chip on their shoulder combined with the arrogance of thinking they are superior to their fellow countrymen because they got out of their crappy countries.

The African and Indian princesses should learn how to man up from this 11 yo boy.

So you think foreigners in Ukraine shouldn't have the right to bitch and should just grin and bear it, and the Africans especially, should stay and join the war effort, right? Just stupid. As if Americans and Europeans don't bitch and get the hell out whenever they get caught up in third world conflicts.

For the last time, it's not the Africans' country. It's not their war. They are under no obligation to stay and fight. They were only in Ukraine for the purpose of getting an education then leaving.

African and Asian women and children were getting kicked out of trains. The Ukranians even threatened to shoot black people.

My decision is made. No dog in the Ukraine - Russia beef. Just white people killing each other.

Disturbing account by one student.

FFS, all foreigners were supposed to exit through Romania. Some ignored that and tried to exit through Poland and were turned away. If you are a visitor in a foreign land that is at war, you should be polite and exit the country the way they tell you to. Unless you're an extremely entitled piece of shit who thinks no rules should ever apply to you.

R461 Ok, you have no empathy for anyone who is white. Just white people killing each other, you say.

So why are you expecting that mostly white posters on DL would give two shits about your Nigerian pussies.

And, R461, blacks are certainly serving as the mercenaries in the propaganda war.

I have no empathy for racists. Ukraine fucking racist. Blow each other up for all I care. Not my war.

In other news, 700 Indian students stuck in their dorms in a university town near the Russian border.

R426 Despite being in EU, Romania is out of Schengen. You can not proceed further to western Europe from Romania. This is why some students and "students" were trying to go forcefully in Poland.

R465 You are the bigger racist of all Ukrainians put together. You are a psychopath who doesn't care if children die, because they are not dark enough. Go kill yourself.

Even if the news about Indian students is not fake news, Indian students needn' t to be trapped in Eastern Ukraine. They are near Russian border, they can go to Russia. Russia and India are on very friendly terms.

[quote]This is why some students and "students" were trying to go forcefully in Poland.

The Polish border is closest Lviv. Most trains from all over Ukriane are headed there. People trying to flee will head to the nearest border.

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The Ukrainians will get their wish and will no longer be a viable destination for students after the war is over. I wonder how many universities will survive.

Most of the blacks and Indians that are posting this accusations have never been students in Ukraine, anyway.

But I think that Ukraine has much bigger problems now than the boycott of offended Nigerians.

Anyway, universities in Europe are funded from public sources. They can survive without doing business.

[quote] Ukrainians trying to evacuate and get out of areas. They were all WALKING. And being shot at. Old people, families. It was terrible and they were standing out in the cold. I didn't really hear anyone bitching

r456 But to the woman from the BBC video above: "The term ‘walking’ is traumatising me. The term ‘walking’. Literally, as a black person… [...] It is a traumatising experience."

Anyway, everyone's hated Chinese - foreign students - also got stuck, trapped in bomb shelters, had to walk for long hours. At least they knew who to criticise: their own embassy.

R474 Chinese are different. They are not the whining kind nor entitled pussies. I have never heard about Chinese pulling the race card or playing victims, even when they were discriminated against.

This is why it is always strange when DL queens see south east Asians as fem or not masculine enough.

DLers are superficial and see only the exterior. East Asians are mentally the most manly types on Earth. Never whining, playing victim, seeking protection and privileges. Never asking for special treatment like some children with special needs. Respect for that.

That is why they are taking over the world.

LMAO 🤣

This is for R475, for having the nerve to post such propagandist bullshit!

^ 😂 😂 😂 Over to you r475

You are too literal. One sparrow does not a spring make.

I was talking about mentality. You will find exceptions and crazy folks anywhere. But whining really isn't a Chinese thing.

Longer clip is even funnier. The Swedish police dropped them off at a graveyard. 😂

Really, r479?

Nobody cares about transwomen, who are the greatest victims, being obliged to fight the war with men.

[quote] I have never heard about Chinese pulling the race card or playing victims

This is the first time I've heard Indians doing it as well.

That is why I think it is a part of Russian propaganda helped by Indian pal Modi.

[quote]700 Indian students stuck in their dorms in a university town near the Russian border

They are welcome to cross the border to their ally, Russia.

Indian propaganda is silly, regarding that they are so racist that a dark skinned woman has difficulty to find a husband.

So hypocritical of Indians to accuse all white nation as Ukrainians to be racists, while they want to marry exclusively a light skinned bride.

There is no sense in trying to talk about any of this in terms of race. The die-hard fighting going on in Ukraine has to do with nationalism, not race. And newspapers all over the world, including many places in Africa, support Ukraine. In India, regardless of what Modi may think, there’s a free press and some of their newspapers also support Ukraine or at least don’t show pro-Russian bias.

The war is expected to lead to famine in the poorest parts of the world. The Times of India is calling on Modi to use his influence to get Putin to withdraw.

[quote] In other news, 700 Indian students stuck in their dorms in a university town near the Russian border.

India is on Russia's side. They'll be fine. India can make arrangements with their friends the Russians to evacuate them to Russia since they're so close to that border and fly them home.

See. Easy peasy.

R490 Yea, they really are the last ones to be worried about, since Russia will probably arrange all with her ally India. I think that all Indian students could have gone to Russia without worries in the first place, which most of them probably did. Some of them were probably panicking and made the stampedo or wanted to take advantage of the situation and get to Western Europe to stay there without visa.

Probably most of the people from fake news have never seen Ukraine.

I have heard that some people accused Italy of being racist because they didn't want to accept some black men who came along with Ukrainian refugees. Because they weren't Ukrainian citizens, but probably African immigrants who wanted to get to Italy this way.

You can sympathize with them, but the accusations about racism are really being prostituted these days.

Hahaha, I’m watching the latest season of Love is Blind, where 2 Indian contestants are unsure about marrying each other because they’ve only previously EXCLUSIVELY dated white people. But please, Indians, tell others how they’re as racist as Indians 🙄

Do you have a link for that r492? Because with African migrants, it's very rare for their final destination to be Italy. Most come from French-speaking countries so they always aim for France and, possibly Belgium. The English-speaking ones aim for the UK. So, provide a link or it didn't happen.

R494, hey! He likes very strong espresso. He's heading for Trieste.

It's a language thing, r495. People in Francophone West Africa are raised to believe that France is the end-all and be-all. Even when they make it to places like Italy, they want to keep moving until they get to Paris.

Because you can't provide a link, r492. I'm assuming that, like many of your other posts on this thread, it's not true and you pulled that out of your ass.

Like the ones you put out of Putin's ass?

My Italians friends told me that.

African immigrants in Italy.

R497 You think that the bullshit that you are copying from social media, with pictures of some Nigerian guys sitting covered with blanket that could have been taken in Abuja and where they are claiming to have been beaten and retained on the Ukrainian border, but without picture of any wounds or contusions has any value?

You have been posting tons of this shit without any proof that these people have ever been students in Ukraine or that anything bad have happened to them.

I have sustained almost every claim with credible links, this one about blacks coming to Italy from North I have heard from friends. Why would they be less reliable than your obscure social media fake news, with which you are bombing this thread.

About the Africans in Italy you have no clue, as you don't have a clue about rest of the Europe nor Africa for that matter. There are many African immigrants in Italy.

Africans in Italy.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

African countries can send planes into Romania to repatriate their nationals. If Africans want to exploit this situation to move to Western Europe, fuck 'em.

Hopefully the knocked some sense into him. Nigerians are the biggest scammers alive. In Germany I met one who had completed a university degree and then applied to be a refugee when it was time to go. Of course Che was deported, but he was willing to say and do anything to game the system.

R457 has a great point. These are elites. Ironically, they often look down their nose at regular people regardless of whether or not they are white.

Not only they look down at people but as the guy at R433 mentioned think they are entitled to push women and children to get first in line.

All the Africans who go to college in Europe have no intention of ever going home. They all want to marry some white woman and stay in Europe. Black women should really hate black men.

Volodymyr is stroking only the white.

But Vladimir prefers his black pets.

[quote] People in Francophone West Africa are raised to believe that France is the end-all and be-all.

Well, I was raised to think Paris was the end-all and be-all. I still do.

Joy Reid can kiss my white arse.

Someone should point out to her that what this conflict is about is only tangentially a bunch of white Christians.

It's about the wolf at the door, the door to the West, where Ms Reid LIVES ever so well on a salary estimated at $1.5 million, with a net worth of $7 million, and if Vlad really succeeds as he no doubt dreams of doing, she'd be picking cotton whilst a PA system belted out Ochi chyornye over the fields.

R486 - The Middle and Far East are raging with colourism. It's a problem in China, in India it's nearly as rampant as female infanticide once was, Iran (Iran is the Brazil of the ME: everyone gets plastic surgery, and the most popular are rhinoplasty making noses smaller), and South Korea - which is also having a huge problem with skin lightening frenzies. Everyone is looking for fair-skinned spouses.

And the preference was entrenched in Japan and China and India LONG before those countries were opened to Western cultural influences.

Who were the first "Aryans"?

"Aryan, name originally given to a people who were said to speak an archaic Indo-European language and who were thought to have settled in prehistoric times in ancient Iran and the northern Indian subcontinent."

Yeah, it's all Caucasoid Europe's fault.

Fucking historical morons.

Note in the text that the preference for fair skin in Korea "goes back centuries to feudal times".

Note the preference for blonde hair. By everyone no matter what their skin is.

WTF does that signify? That my dark hair is unworthy and I should kill myself because of this outrageous color discrimination?

Look at any dark-skinned black male celeb. Tell me one who is married to a dark-skinned black woman. I'll wait. Any black couple I see, if the woman is black, she is ALWAYS lighter skinned than her husband. Only exception to the rule is Barack Obama and he married a dark-skinned woman to reinforce his black credentials as a politician.

R514, wouldn’t that be because working in the sun means you have less money/power? The same as being called a redneck?

[quote] Foreigners who volunteer to fight for Ukraine will be eligible for citizenship. From CNN's Josh Pennington

[quote] Ukraine's Deputy Interior Minister Yevhen Yenin said Tuesday that foreign nationals who volunteer to fight for Ukraine will be eligible for Ukrainian citizenship, according to the Ukrainian National News Agency, Ukrinform.

[quote] "These people will sign a contract, receive a military passport, which then replaces their residence permit. In the future, if any among these foreign nationals would like to become Ukrainian citizens, our legislation provides a pathway for that," he said, according to Ukrinform.

[quote]If Africans want to exploit this situation to move to Western Europe, fuck 'em.

Where are you getting this from? Most of these students are in medical school, you think Ukraine will employ them. And overwhelming majority return to their countries to practise medicine.

[quote]All the Africans who go to college in Europe have no intention of ever going home. They all want to marry some white woman and stay in Europe. Black women should really hate black men.

Again, demonstrably not true. Unless you think someone with a medical degree would rather line up at soup kitchens in Europe than earn decent money as a doctor. I know the image of black men with white women is jarring to you, but the overwhelming majority of African men don't even find white women attractive. Hard to swallow, I know.

Still no links about your claims r499/r502. But don't you worry, Croatia is safe from black immigrants. No one is beating a path to that racist, Balkan shit hole.

Actually, shithole is where you live, boipussy at R520. The place where your black friends are hitting shit on the face of white women.

You are only jealous cause you would be thrilled to live in Croatia.

Btw. I just met a few Africans today in town. Africans are everywhere.

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R465 - You fucking moron. This isn't about the Ukrainians. This is the doorstep of Europe - it's about the WEST, because once he's allowed the hand, he'll start thinking about the arm. YOUR arm.

R525 So, if you find something on youtube it proves it really happened?

You can find links of healing Covid with red beet compresses too.

Actually, I see the video of people waiting to leave the country in war and complaining.

Just like the TV coverage of airports when there are some natural disasters.

So fishy that in this time where everything is been recorded and everybody carries the phone, there is no trace of police brutality recorded.

And of all the victims of beating not a single tiniest bruise or contusion.

They could have tried harder and at least punched each other or painted some bruises.

Or did the border police whip their asses?

Joy Reid is calling out the hypocrisy.

Horrible when rich people of color are jealous of war refugees and people in war zones just because they have lighter skin.

Joy Reid is a race-baiting hack

Joy Reid's parents were both immigrants. If she can't pull the race card, she has no other cards in her deck. She should have been fired when her vicious homophobic blogs came to light. But apparently being a black bigot trumps all.

R529 She called out fags too.

Reid's a homophobic bigot and a liar. But she's black so that's OK, folks!

[quote] You can find links of healing Covid with red beet compresses too.

Really? Does it work?

Life for black people in Ukraine was dire, even before the invasion,

Axios breaks it down.

R537, once again, they went to the WRONG border. Maybe because they thought that was the best way out or deliberately, they wanted Poland and not Romania where they were supposed to go.

Enough of this bullshit. Even though they refused to follow the evacuation routes planned by their home countries and Ukraine - trying to efficiently and safely manage evacuations in a chaotic war-torn country - they were eventually allowed to cross where they wanted.

You're saying Whites go to Poland and Blacks had to go to Romania, R538?

^ You know it's all about their nationalities

R539 the agreement had been made with their governments - there were evacuation flights from Romania not from Poland. So they didn't want to go home, they wanted to sneak in the back door to Western Europe.

^ Link, please. About the agreement and them wanting to sneak in the back door to Western Europe?

Oh god. ^^^ Try to keep up. All this was posted in any number of posts days ago.

All this BS was debunked almost immediately.

^ Was it these ones?

Or these ones?

Maybe these are the medical students who'd rather live on the streets, homeless shelters and soup kitchens of Western Europe than pursue their goals of becoming doctors.

Just because everybody in Croatia wants to live in the UK doesn't make it the case for others. The African migrants Europe used to get were not educated people from good families who can afford an international education. Your image of Africans is colored by those who'd rather sleep rough on the streets, not those who think Europe is to cold and uninteresting to live in.

Of course they want into Western Europe. This is common knowledge. They all do.

R547 You know nothing about anything, yet keep blabbing and frauing here for days.

You weren’t even discussing with me previous day and hours, yet you are so obsessed with me and Croatia that you have to mention it in any post.

I don’t think there are even many Croatians in UK. Why would people want to leave the Mediterranean paradise to go to toil in UK. UK is beautiful to visit as tourist, but who wants to live there? It is dreamland only for Africans and people from some less developed Asian countries.

Do you think the UK is a dreamland for Africans? Debatable. I'll, however, tell you what definitely isn't a dreamland for Africans: Croatia.

R550 Ok, you made a thorough research on Africans view on Croatia. You don’t know even where Croatia is yet you have an opinion. Because opinion is like ass, everyone has one.

Better go and fry something for your top instead of frauing on DL, but I am afraid you don’t have one, because guys are avoiding you like the plague.

[quote] opinion is like ass, everyone has one.

We share one.

Joy Reid is a racist bigot. This horrific war isn't about her and her PEOPLE, no one gives a flying fuck what that bitch says, no one gives a flying fuck about a few people who chose to come to an all white Eastern European country for university, and then whinged when women and children and the too old to fight fled with the clothes on their backs with no "home" country to take them back.

No one cares, Joy. Fuck you, fuck your soul-searching, this war ain't about you and your particular axe, go grind it in your neck.

Next time, they should go to university somewhere else.

Hey, Reid: take a look at this.

Let the Ukrainians in. Keep the Africa hypocrites out.

So... African students in Ukraine - who know there will be no returning to Ukraine as everything has been destroyed there - can't return to their home countries? Instead they're trying to get into Western Europe to take advantage of their generous social welfare programs?