Sam Elliot BLASTS "The Power of the Dog" For Its "Allusions Of Homosexuality"

"And by the way, you kids get off my prairie"!!!

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Thomas Savage, who wrote the novel--which, by the way, is remarkable and received acclaim but not much of an audience--based it on his own life. He was raised on a ranch in Montana after his birth father died and his mother remarried a wealthy rancher. He was either bisexual or a closeted gay man. The Benedict Cumberbatch character is based on his uncle. What is not true to life--at least according to Savage--was the boy's role in dispatching his bully. Sam Elliot's reaction made me laugh. Listen, he's an old fart and has enough problems with his own family. The history of cowboys in the West is replete with homosexuality, whether he likes it or not.

"Sam Elliot's reaction made me laugh. Listen, he's an old fart and has enough problems with his own family."

Some years back, Sam and Katharine Ross' daughter, and only child, attacked her mother with a pair of scissors. They had to obtain a restraining order against her.

Sounds like it hit a little too close to home for someone.

I don't consider it a western, other than it's setting is the American West of the 1920s. To me, in a western the setting should be a character as much as the people in the story. It should influence the motivations and actions of the characters. But the story at the heart of the film isn't about "the West". It could have been set anywhere. It could have been set in rural Alabama in the 1920s and have still worked and been as powerful. The idea that a movie set in Montana with cowboy characters is therefore "a western" is dumb.

The Power of the Doggie Style.

[quote]"I just came from Texas where I was hanging out with families — not men — but families," he said. "Big, long, extended, multiple-generation families that made their living and their lives were all about being cowboys. And boy, when I fucking saw that [movie], I thought, 'What the fuck? Where are we in this world today?'"

That's the exact same shit you hear in a far-right Republican's speech.

I've seen the movie twice, and never noticed the two different pairs of chaps. Guess Sam has a keen eye for Cowboy Fashion.

Creepy old loser, thanks to a greasy smirk and and soup strainer moustache, excepting notable turns in The Lifeguard, Frogs, and Road House he's been lurking about waiting to put on his boots and play the same role again and again --and not very well-- for decades.

Evidently his expertise in the history of cowboys stems from an acting career and a recent visit to Texas.

R6 is 100% correct. It's not a western. Is "The Grapes Of Wrath" a western? It starts in Texas in the late 20's. POTD takes place in Montana in the mid-20s. What is wrong with people?

Here's another recap of what was discussed on the podcast, including

[quote]In Monday's episode of "WTF," the "Tombstone" star called Jane Campion's critically acclaimed movie starring Benedict Cumberbatch a "piece of shit."

I’ve never liked Sam Elliott. He’s always struck me as a dumb redneck trying to parlay his borderline retarded slow drawl into a career. He’s worshipped by fat hillbilly women, of course.

I guess Sam has turned into one of those memes of him that boomers are so fond of

[quote]"Allusions Of Homosexuality"

Interesting Sam, do you have any "allusions of literacy"?

His Oscar nomination for "A Star is Born" was puzzling.

Didn't we go through this before with "Brokeback Mountain"?

With the all fragile old Hollywood white men (i.e. Jack Nicholson) saying they'd never let a movie about "queer cowboys" win the Oscar for Best Picture?

Yeah Sam, what are you going to do?

Deny it an Oscar when they're about a year away from being live-streamed?

I agree about the filming in New Zealand part. It threw the movie off because it was so obviously not the Western United States.

One might say, "allusions to homosexuality"

or

"illusions of grandeur"

but "allusions of homosexuality" is not standard, and kind of stupid

[quote]"What the fuck does this woman from down there know about the American West?" Elliott asked. "Why the fuck did she shoot this movie in New Zealand and call it Montana? And say this is the way it was? That fucking rubbed me the wrong way."

Oh, dear. Mr. Dictionary has deserted us again, I see!

There's nothing so fragile as the white male "allusions" of masculinity and superiority

And no one has "rubbed him" at all for about 30 years

"With the all fragile old Hollywood white men (i.e. Jack Nicholson) saying they'd never let a movie about "queer cowboys" win the Oscar for Best Picture?"

Wrong. Nicholson said he voted for it and Ang Lee and was surprised Crash won. It was the even older generation (Tony Curtis was outspoken on it, IIRC) that was against it. You wouldn't necessarily know it from his stinkers, but Jack had excellent taste in projects.

[quote]It was the even older generation (Tony Curtis was outspoken on it, IIRC) that was against it.

Which was hilarious given that Curtis was an admitted bisexual slut his entire life.

[quote]Wrong. Nicholson said he voted for it and Ang Lee and was surprised Crash won. It was the even older generation (Tony Curtis was outspoken on it, IIRC) that was against it. You wouldn't necessarily know it from his stinkers, but Jack had excellent taste in projects.

Wrong: Jack Nicolson said he wouldn't read the name "Brokeback Mountain" out loud at the Oscars even if did win Best Picture.

Here's a portion of the podcast where you can gauge Elliot's level of anger/disgust/you name it.

So many old white men have their own masculine identity tied to the Old West

when "men were men"

it's their Holy Grail

Anyone who dares to question their "Myth" rubs them the wrong way - just as Brokeback Mountain did

Does anyone remember his movie "Sibling Rivalry" with (a still thin) Kirstie Alley where he plays the old geezer that sleeps with the sexually frustrated Alley and then dies in his sleep? It was totally believable when it was filmed - 32 years go!

[quote]I agree about the filming in New Zealand part. It threw the movie off because it was so obviously not the Western United States.

Yeah, westerns should be filmed only in the USA.

[quote]excepting notable turns in The Lifeguard, Frogs, and Road House

A career has to be pretty bad when a notable turn is in Frogs, one of the worst nature-gone-amok films.

How did he feel about Brokeback Mountain?

You seem to have completely invented that, r25. Why?

Nicholson was visibly stunned when he announced CRASH as the winner, he seems to have thought Brokeback would win like everyone else did.

Allusions of homosexuality?

NOW I want to see it!

Thanks, Sam 👍🏻!

Old actors weren't the only assholes about "Brokeback Mountain," as Mark Wahlberg made derogatory comments about it on several occasions. As others have said, Nicholson expected it to win that year, claimed to have voted for it, and his expression when "Crash" won is still written about years later.

As for Sam Elliott, he praised "Brokeback Mountain," calling it "a beautiful film," but his full take on it is a mixed bag. He thought the gay content "stepped over the line" but didn't get what the big deal was about it. He also felt it wasn't a Western.

God, the homophobia is just dripping from that.

He wanted "manly men" being cowboys and he is upset it is really about a closeted man struggling with his sexuality.

Uh, guys, allusion is the correct word.

It was a magic trick. It alluded to homosexuality (at least in his mind, I haven’t seen it).

Tony Curtis and Ernest Borgnine were the ones that complained publicly about Brokeback Mountain.

The guy was a fag, right, that's why the kid killed him.

Born in Sacramento, grew up in California and Oregon, and yet has that phony Texas accent that wannabe Texans (I know) lay on so thick.

Wut the fuck. Wut the fuck.

[quote] Sounds like it hit a little too close to home for someone.

Oh, please.

Sam Elliot is just stating the obvious.

There are so many filmmakers who know nothing about the American Frontier West, trying to make movies about the American Frontier West.

And that's all he's saying.

For fuck's sake, a chinese guy made Brokeback Mountain, and even he captured it better than TPoTD.

Not only that, but Sam is working on 1883, so he knows wtf he's talking about.

R30, But, in several scenes in "Frogs", it's obvious than Sam went commando and the outline of his ample cock is quite visible beneath his tight jeans.

This is actually trending on Twitter now, lol.

And there were many posts on DL about the hot naked cowboys, especially the blond one with long hair

R28, He also did a movie with Whoopi in the 1980s and she was publicly pissed when she learned their love scene had been cut from the finished film.

I once saw a movie about lifeguards and there's all these allusions of homosexuality throughout the movie.

How soon will Sam be issuing an "apology"?

R4 . . .

His words will do well with the core audience of his "1883" show. No apologies needed. His audience will be heartily applauding him between swigs of beer and belches.

Jack Nicholson in no way complained about Brokeback Mountain!!!

Here’s a good tweet to Sam featuring a photo of the producer of Lonesome Dove.

[quote] How soon will Sam be issuing an "apology"?

I hope he doesn't.

No one should have to apologize for telling the truth.

He's like an angry nerd or fangirl who is outraged that his favorite topic, the Wild West, is being misrepresented.

And, on some level, I can see why he's bitter (foreigner thinks she can trick us by filming in New Zealand, that bitch!) since he knows his stuff. But Hollywood has always pulled shit like that. Even when it comes to stuff close to my gay heart (like, gay characters being played by straight actors who feel the need to affirm they are really really straight during the press tour) I notice such things, but they don't drive me mad.

[quote] Even when it comes to stuff close to my gay heart (like, gay characters being played by straight actors who feel the need to affirm they are really really straight during the press tour) I notice such things, but they don't drive me mad.

That doesn’t drive me mad, but I'll admit it angers me.

Please. There isn't a single person here who has always been enraged at movies filmed in a different location than where they're set. You're just saying so now because you want to be on Elliott's side for whatever reason.

He should learn to say the word "fuck" more.

R41 that’s what I remember most from that movie- how tight his pants were and the clear outline of his dick. Loved it.

This is amusing to me because I pictured a young Sam Elliot as Bronco Henry when I watched this movie.

Homos should only be hairdressers and murder victims!

"The Power of the Dog" is not a western! Just because it's set in Montana doesn't make it a western. Just because it has cowboys in it doesn't make it a western. That would be like saying "The Last Picture Show" is a western because it's set in the ranchlands of Texas and has a cowboy character in it.

Or Titanic is a pirate movie because it’s set at sea.

love Sam Elliot.

who does Elliott think his movie "lifeguard" audience was??

Had no problem with a script having his mid 30's pushing 40 character having sex with a 16 year old... Had no problem parading around in a skimpy speedo (oh wait that was the style then), .. Had no problem screwing anything that moved.....

I don’t like him anymore.

His prominent moustache also alludes very strongly to homosexuality.

I think the sight of Benedict Cumberbatch in chaps gave Elliot "feelings" he needed to fight against. I'm as gay as they come, and even I didn't notice the different types of chaps Cumberbatch wore.

I see you, Sam!

[quote] "I mean, Cumberbatch never got out of his fucking chaps", he told Maron

Either he mentally blocked the sunbathing scene, or his mind tricked him into believing Cumberbatch wore chaps during it. I'm gonna go with the latter.

What bugged me about TPotD: how the fuck did Kodi Smit-McPhee's tennis shoes stay so damn white in all that ranch dust?!

Poor old butt hurt, Sam

Don't worry, Sam, no one is fantasizing about your old wrinkled nut sack anymore.

I don't think he used the F word enough in that interview.

What was so unrealistic about Power of the Dog and its depiction of 1920s Montana?

Scotch-Guard, R65

Wasn’t he bothered about Lifeguard developing something of a cult following in the gay community? He honestly looked like a West Coast clone in that movie.

Poor deluded Sam: his cowboy act is about as authentic as, and much less entertaining than, Randy Jones'.

r55...

A screen shot from "Frogs" of Sam's VPL.

Now why didn't I think of that, r74?

I've always liked him and still do.

He is descended from someone who was at the Alamo and that certainly gives him his Texas credibility.

Also has performed in some terrific westerns, both film and TV. I loved the splendid "Tombstone", among others.

I've not seen TPOTD, so can't comment on it.

buttocks

Too bad he feels that way. I liked him in "A Star is Born."

Not good- he comes off as a bigoted dinosaur- and stupid. Homosex among “cowboys” was as rampant as sodomy and rum was in the Royal Navy when it ruled the waves.

R79, straight men hate hearing/learning that some of their cherished masculine figures, eras, and pursuits were steeped in heavy homosex.

Was Brokeback Mountain a western?

Well r25, he said it.

The Power of the Dog would be correctly referred to as a Neo-Western along with Brokeback Mountain. They share many Western characteristics but take place outside of the classical Western era, which most would say ended by WW1.

R76, bullshit. He grew up in California and Portland. Who cares where he his ancestors came from.

The allusions to homosexuality ruined Sam's illusions about the Old West!

Compared to Night of the Lepus (1972), Frogs is a masterpiece! Those cute bunnies weren't scary at all.

Back when Sam was first breaking into acting, legendary director and man's man John Ford took a shine to him and predicted in interviews that Sam was going to have a very successful career, particularly in westerns.

So, I wonder how Sam reacted when Maureen O'Hara wrote in her autobiography that she once walked in on Ford passionately kissing a famous actor. She refused to identify the actor, but it has been thought to be Tyrone Power, who was starring in the movie Ford was then directing.

[quote]Too bad he feels that way. I liked him in "A Star is Born."

I thought that was Kris Kristofferson.

[quote]So, I wonder how Sam reacted when Maureen O'Hara wrote in her autobiography that she once walked in on Ford passionately kissing a famous actor. She refused to identify the actor, but it has been thought to be Tyrone Power, who was starring in the movie Ford was then directing.

Maureen didn't out the actor; she merely made allusions to homosexuality!

What’s the issue with the movie being filmed in NZ with a (female - maybe that’s Sam’s problem?) director?

If an American could get it made in the USA beforehand with American actors (another issue for old Sam) that would have happened I presume.

[quote] What’s the issue with the movie being filmed in NZ w

I know some people think that the landscape looks nothing like Montana, but I thought it bore some resemblance to the wilderness outside Livingston and Gardiner, MT.

R91 The fact he didn't even say Campion's name is telling. Just "this woman".

It looks enough like Montana to work for the movie. But Hollywood has been substituting locations forever and they mostly don't get it right. It's not something unique to this movie.

[quote] I don't consider it a western, other than it's setting is the American West of the 1920s. To me, in a western the setting should be a character as much as the people in the story. It should influence the motivations and actions of the characters. But the story at the heart of the film isn't about "the West". It could have been set anywhere. It could have been set in rural Alabama in the 1920s and have still worked and been as powerful. The idea that a movie set in Montana with cowboy characters is therefore "a western" is dumb.

It certainly is a Western. The isolation and macho culture are essential. Making a rope out of cowhide is a key plot point. Don’t get much more Western than that.

If Breaking Bad could be considered a neo-Western show, this film certainly qualifies.

Yet he did a western-themed commercial with Lil Nas X last year….

I have NEVER liked this guy but couldn’t pinpoint why. Now I realize my intuition was always correct. If you get vibes someone is an asshole, they probably are.

And how appalled Sam must be about John Ford shooting "How Green Was My Valley" near Malibu, rather than in Wales.

Why am I not surprised that this is one of Aaron Rodgers’ favorite people?

Time to mask up and shut up, Sammy.

I feel like he missed the point of the movie.

He just mad because he wanted to hula hoop and die from anthrax alongside Cumberbatch.

R102, which is why I said he is dumb.

I’m so glad this close minded older generation is dying off.

R105, unfortunately, its not like you don't see thinly-veiled homophobia amongst younger straightbros. Look at the meltdowns of the comic book fanbois when one of their characters is portrayed as anything but straight.

The only good Western is a Dead Western.

I'm really starting to wonder about Seth McFarlane and how he finds some of his voice actor regulars. James Woods, now Sam Elliot in Family Guy.

Uh, because it WAS a movie about homosexuality? Did he not get that?! Can someone get him some butterscotch pudding?

I think the movie was just too highbrow for him. He's like those guys who thought Magic Mike would be a simple, fun stripper movie, but it was a little bit more than that.

It's a drinking game. Every time he says the naughty word, yell something and take a sip. Your choice.

R105 - because Millennials and Gen Z are so wonderful

R108 Limbaugh was invited on as a guest star too.

I always thought Cumberbatch was ugly. And Sam Elliot is cute although I think he is an asshole. I am a female.

But what does Katherine Ross think?

[quote] "I mean, Cumberbatch never got out of his fucking chaps," he told Maron. "He had two pairs of chaps — a woolly pair and a leather pair... It's like, what the fuck?"

We could agree more!

Sam Elliott?

I don't know her.

R4 I had forgotten about that. What a weird story.

Who appointed this asshole the arbiter of what’s authentically Western?

Could you imagine getting this worked up over a fucking movie???? If I don’t like a movie I’ve watched, I just say it sucked, give a brief explanation of why I didn’t like it, and that’s it. I don’t go on some long, emotional diatribe as if my life has been affected by it.

[quote] I always thought Cumberbatch was ugly. And Sam Elliot is cute although I think he is an asshole. I am a female.

He's fugly and looks like an alien. I'm surprised he and Betty Gilpin haven't been cast as weirdo serial killer siblings in a movie or tv show.

[quote] He grew up in California and Portland. Who cares where he his ancestors came from.

Hilarious.

Tell that to those of Italian ancestry who have never left NY. Or those of Irish from Boston. Or those of Mexican ancestry who live in the Southwest.

R122, do they speak in an Italian accent? In an Irish accent? In a Mexican accent? No.

Does West Coast Sam Elliot, generations removed from his so-called relative who fought at the Alamo speak in an exaggerated 'Texas' accent? Yes.

Phony fuckin' baloney Sam Elliot derdeederrin' on the podcasts in Texvoice, the Texas equivalent of Blackface!

Seek help, R123.

[quote][R6] is 100% correct. It's not a western. Is "The Grapes Of Wrath" a western? It starts in Texas in the late 20's. POTD takes place in Montana in the mid-20s. What is wrong with people?

The Grapes of wrath starts in Oklahoma, the characters are displaced by the drought conditions of the Dust Bowl of the 1930s. Hence these people who relocated to California were called "Okies." Montana is the west, Oklahoma is the central south, or southwest.

I didn't get why Kirsten Dunst was so upset by Benedict Cumberbatch. Shouldn't there have been more scenes showing why he tormented her so?

frau alert at r114

He's an idiot, but the movie is ridiculous schlock. Just not for Sam's reasons. As one DL-er put it . . . Sociopath #1 is horrifically murdered by Sociopath #2. (Or something like that).

"The Bad Seed." With chaps.

Everyone in my office is a Trump supporter, and they LOVE Yellowstone. There is a reason folks

[quote] Too bad he feels that way. I liked him in "A Star is Born."

[quote] I thought that was Kris Kristofferson.

Actually, it was Barbra Streisand.

You're correct, R89.

R16 & R78 must be nearsighted. Elliot and Kristofferson are grizzled white men, but they don't look alike. Kristofferson won a Golden Globe for "A Star Is Born." He never received an Oscar nomination for it.

Elliot received an Oscar nomination for the Gaga version of A Star is Born.

Thanks for the clarification, R132.

Pardon my ignorance. I didn't see the latest remake with Gaga and have no interest in seeing it.

The bit about the chaps made me laugh out loud. He's right there. Senseless costume choices detract from a movie's authenticity. The film makers also could have just asked someone.

[quote]the classical Western era, which most would say ended by WW1.

Stagecoach would be pretty surprised to hear that!

We really didn't enter the era of the neo Western until the 1940s, when Westerns started picking up the same sociocultural critiques and traits as film noir did.

I figure if even fascist John Wayne was okay with doing The Searchers, which was a revisionist neo Western remake (practically an apologia) of his 1930 movie The Big Trail, then there's no reason for Elliott to be so het up about Power of the Dog. Unless he really does have some underlying reason to be afeared of the homosex.

Sam Elliot was really complaining about his secret mud baths being put on film.

It's spelled "Elliott," guys. OP got it wrong.

[quote] He's like those guys who thought Magic Mike would be a simple, fun stripper movie, but it was a little bit more than that.

It was?

I hadn’t noticed.

[quote] Stagecoach would be pretty surprised to hear that! We really didn't enter the era of the neo Western until the 1940s, when Westerns started picking up the same sociocultural critiques and traits as film noir did.

Stagecoach was set in 1880. I am talking about the eras in which the Westerns are set, not in which the movies were made. The classical Western era ended with World War 2 and subsequent rise of the automobile.

Oh, you mean those fancy horseless carriages.

I don't know what gay porn Sam Elliot is watching

but his criticisms outside of the homophobia are valid. . . honestly, though, if PoTD was a gay film, there wouldn't be allusions, they'd be beating us to death with how g-a-y the gay cowboys were because men that simply give or receive cock aren't considered gay enough by the industry, thus regulated to being flamboyant but chaste bitter stand-ins for wine fraus ... perhaps more these days than decades past. progress in action!

But if he offends you so much, he did a low budget film a few years ago that was unintentionally a parody of his own career. So, he's not the most self aware guy out there.

Still, let's be real, most of you are probably more offended at the existence of gay cowboys vs clothing fetishists.

I haven't seen this movie, but he's really complaining about westerns being filmed in foreign countries by non-American directors? I hope he also bashes spaghetti westerns then.

Da fuq you on about, R141?

Sam Elliot is wrong, and bitter. He criticizes her for trying to portray an American cowboy because she's a woman from Australia. Really? Platoon was about the Vietnam war, but filmed in the Philippines; Chicago was filmed in Toronto; and Saving Private Ryan's portrayal of the battle at Normandy (France) was filmed in Ireland. And all you have to do is study the era, not live in it. FU, Lady Elliot.

I'm embarrassed for him. He really believes he is important.

[quote] It's spelled "Elliott," guys. OP got it wrong.

Sam ElliotT is the new AnnE Hathaway!

My stepdad was really into westerns, so I saw a bunch of them as a kid. Even before I knew what sex was and understood that I was gay, westerns struck me as really gay.

R147 Any reason why? Westerns never struck me as "gay".

R148 They're about a group of men living/travelling together with no or few women and they build very male-centric communities. Also, many westerns have themes about men who went out west because they didn't fit into society.

Really, r148?

Wonder what Katharine Ross thinks about his stupid comments — if she’s still not laying low from their scissor-wiielding daughter!

As Hitchcock said: actors are cattle. And not nearly as interesting in real life as they are on screen.

Was Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid a Western, I recall bicycle riding at some point?

I’d love to know what the story is about the daughter and why she attacked Katharine Ross with the knife.

R154, The daughter had behavioral issues as a child and they worsened as she aged.

R154, Scissors, not a knife.

"Homo on the Range"

[quote]They're about a group of men living/travelling together with no or few women and they build very male-centric communities. Also, many westerns have themes about men who went out west because they didn't fit into society.

Do the majority of westerns really have no women, or few women? I don't think that's accurate at all.

What are some of the westerns where men went out west because they didn't fit into society?

3:10 to Yuma must have really triggered 'ol Sam.

bump

[quote] I’d love to know what the story is about the daughter and why she attacked Katharine Ross with the knife.

It was because of her performance on "The Colbys"...

Maybe the daughter thought she was a Stepford Wife and wanted to make sure she hadn't been changed like Bobbie and Charmaine.

Damnit Sam. And I adored you so.

Maybe the daughter squeezed the Charmin.

Wait wasn’t there a son of a Tarzan actor recently who attacked his parents too? Are they part of a When Old Star’s Kids Attack phenomenon?

R165, Yeah, Ron Ely's son killed his mother and then the responding police killed the son. I believe the family is suing the police for unnecessarily killing the son.

Old 77 year old straight white man not a fan of homosexual themed western film. Breaking news at 6pm.

Has anyone showed him Mrs. Maisel yet?

Mrs. Elliott is no stranger to shooting off her mouth, either. When Universal forced her to honor her contract and do a John Wayne movie that they wanted to use her in, the erstwhile Elaine Robinson complained to the press WHILE THE FILM WAS STILL IN PRODUCTION.

OMG. His commentary has me laughing out loud.

Typical, old fart commentary.

Remember when he was hot AF? I don’t, but Google does!

I’m actually surprised a Hollywood Boomer would be this out of touch.

Oh well. I was wrong.

I’m sorely disappointed with him. But not surprised. Not at all. The past decade has exposed many of my favorite entertainers as intolerant and hypocritical.

The LA Times responds to Mr. Elliott.

I listened to him on the podcast with Maron and the movie just seemed to go over his head. I didn't get homophobia from it.

Sam Elliot Page.

Sam Elliott in his prime looked like a gay porn star.

It kind of bothered me tha Marc Maron seemed to egg SE on too, especially when Elliott called the movie a piece of shit.

well there goes my liking that actor. does he know many manly cowboys bak in the day were gay????

Its said he doin this to cover his bi tracks....

Funny, most of his paychecks prob came from gay men who happen to be movie producers.

Cannot believe this mother fucker is gonna shoot off his mouth that way. monster !

oddly enough, R39, CA has its own weird "southernish" sounding accent, but not everyone has it. Whether it is an affectation or an importation (almost no one in CA was born/grew up there) I don't know, but it's a sound I've heard occasionally from other Californians all my life and I grew up there.

The "what the fuck" derives much more from the hippie era and the laid back CA lifestyle, expressed verbally. Imagine Jeff Bridges saying it and you might understand.

That thing that Clint does when he speaks shows it also--it's played up, but it's not an affectation in its entirety. I don't know where it comes from, though CA did have many waves of migration from the south.

Whereabouts in the Maron podcast do they discuss it? I don't want to listen to the whole thing.

He also says he loves Texas but not a lot of its politics. So there is that.

sam you old conservative kunt. will never watch u again in a damn thing.

Sam did a voiceover for Joe Biden’s campaign, hardly a conservative.

If Sam Elliott thinks Benedict Cumberbatch and Jesse Plemons look like Chippendales dancers he desperately needs to make an appointment with his optometrist.

Are those assless chaps worn by Cumberbatch worn over his unclothed ass?

I'd watch it.

[quote]Sam did a voiceover for Joe Biden’s campaign, hardly a conservative.

R186 Joe Biden is a conservative Democrat.

This part got picked up out of the interview and made headlines BUT if you listen to the whole thing Elliot hates everything!

He even says he doesn't like Yellowstone when he is there to promote the prequel to it which I would guess involves the people from the first series.

He even complains about how hard marriage is but is surprisingly nice about his crazed knife attacking daughter. (oh and he loves Gaga, but didn't like Gucci which Maron says he enjoyed.)

He is now persona non grata in town....

Will Sam dare to attend the Oscars on the 27th?

hell no we will spit on him !

AS IF, back in the day, during Sam's "sexual physical prime" if he had done a western and it was required for HIM to wear chaps and barely anything else he would have objected!....

I don't understand the Cumberbatch love. His weird eyes, steely line readings , the fact that he's like a Human Ice Chip.

Until quite recently men outnumbered women in all the western cities. Homosexuality IS the foundation of western aesthetic.

Assshollllle

Jane Campion Responds

[quote] “I think it’s really unfortunate and sad for him because he’s really hit the trifecta of misogyny and xenophobia and homophobia. I don’t like that. I think he was being a little bit of a b-i-t-c-h. Plus he’s not a cowboy, he’s an actor.”

[quote] Campion joked that the only way to settle this was in true Western style: with a shootout — with none other than The Power of the Dog star Benedict Cumberbatch by her side. “When [Elliott] gets out of hair and makeup, I’ll meet him down at the OK Corral on the set with Doctor Strange, and we will shoot it out.”

[quote] “Look, the West is a mythic space and there’s plenty of room on the range.”

Jane responds: "Me-OW. Reeeer, hiss, snarl."

She was on the nose, r199.

R198, Isn't it a bit tasteless to be joking about "shootouts" after the Alec Baldwin incident?

Jane Campion is brilliant.

POTD BAFTA wins today:

Best Picture

Best Director

Also (unofficially):

Sam Elliot: Best Little Bitch

ElliotT

This thread needs a palette cleanser.

His comments are tone-deaf and certainly strange—he comes off as being threatened by there being a different take on the American cowboy, an archetype he's played throughout his career. Really, the main theme of "The Power of the Dog" was repression and how it can poison someone and everyone around them. There were certainly gay cowboys in the old west, but it was not spoken of—any men who had those desires repressed them and/or kept them a secret. It's not that outrageous or far-fetched of a story. As far as I know, Elliott and Katharine Ross are not rightwing either—Elliott apparently did voice work for Joe Biden's presidential campaign. I suppose it just goes to show that masculinity can be fragile on both sides of the political spectrum.

I love Jane’s response.

[quote] Campion: “When Elliott gets out of hair and makeup...."

Hehehehehehehe

Will Sam be cancelled over this?

[quote]Will Sam be cancelled over this?

Honestly, I think most people forgot he even existed. That commercial he did with Lil Nas X last year was the first time I had seen him in years.

Sam has had his ass blown open by cocks ever since that ass started giving men hard ons

R210, He was Oscar nominated just three years ago for "A Star is Born" and received lots of publicity.

R212 Only gays watched that.

R213, After the nomination, Sam was being interviewed everywhere.

There’s tons of intolerance within the Democratic voting ranks. We can rightly point out that the Republicans are top heavy with bigots, but we also have them. Especially the clergy.

people hate his fucking old guts now.....he is not welcome anywhere.....phobic piece of dumb shit...

Hope he has to wear adult diapers.

he prob wont be in Yellowstone much longer......good riddance to trash.

Sam & Jane need to make a film together.

sam needs to get the hell out of the business he seems to hate. creep of creeps....

Sam’s an old guy, old-guying. I know how he feels. As you get older, the resentments build up. Not saying I agree with this particular grievance of course 😅

The funny thing is, Sam bitches a lot, but he’s least convincing onscreen when he plays a character that bitches a lot. My least favorite role of his was Buford in “Gettysburg,” the Union cavalry commander who held up the confederate long enough for the Army of the Potomac to take up the strong defensive position. Buford complains bitterly about the incompetence and arrogance of the union high command. Sam is awful. Which is weird because I usually love him in stuff.

his wife seemed nice thru the years, why is she with such a woman hating, gay hating, fuk????

Sad last days.

Looks like Sam has destroyed The Power of the Dogs best picture chances after all. CODA is largely tipped to win.

Who would have first thought that when Sam put his foot in his mouth!

When my roommates broke up, the tension was so thick I had to get a hotel room for a night. It was a strange evening. I had heard Dirty Back Road in a cab that was taking me to the Rodeway Inn. After securing a burrito, I returned to my room. I proceeded to watch Antiques Roadshow followed by Road House. I then realized how much I love Road House.

Remember, Sam: one, Never underestimate your opponent. Two, Expect the unexpected. Three, take it outside.

Sam Elliot can lick my cunt!

R226 but would Sam or anybody want to, Jane?

sam is a bitter old turd.

[quote] sam is a bitter old turd.

Yes. We want ours fresh and sweet!

Well, Sam Elliott has had the last laugh. The Power of the Dog only won one award and it was more a career/respect award.

R230, no he didn't have the last laugh. First of all, the move won in a major category which was historical in its own right. Further, Hollywood was angry about what he had to say. It's a win-win for Jane Campion.

An old red neck, old rednecking.

Nothing to see here. The old cunt is stupid/uninformed/outoftouch.

R232 Actually, not out of touch with the Academy's tastes.

I'm still not watching the old cunt's movie.

Lesson of the story is gay cowboys will never win best picture.

I'd still suck Sam's cock.

R236 And gladly swallow all his cum!!!

best movie of the year indeed. elliott is a mean old fart who can be hot tempered i bet.....sad old fuk.

This is the same Academy that gave Will Smith best acting after he sucker punched the comedian hired to perform at their show? This is their standard? Ok. Got it!

That woman winning an Oscar for something she knows nothing about. I should have gone up onto the stage and slapped her.

(Never mind that The Power of the Dog isn't really a Western).

Elliott is so bitter. Is it because he hasn't been in anything actually good in the last 10 years?

[quote] This is the same Academy that gave Will Smith best acting after he sucker punched the comedian hired to perform at their show?

You really think the winners are decided that night?

R242 I am saying that the winners were determined for both recipients were selected by the same pool of people! He is a cocky asshole and she seems to be bitter racist whiney little bitch. These facts were known long before the winners were selected.

I wish Sam would have blasted me years ago.

IF he has any blast left, he could still blast me... anytime!

Sam: The Old West had no time for gays -- or women!

I guess Sam Elliot missed Red River

The way things work out.

Sam Elliott attacks Jane 'That woman' Campion and her film and is roundly condemned.

The Power of the Dogs is largely anointed as the Best Picture Oscar Winner - thanks Sam, signed Jane.

Jane Campion puts her foot in her mouth with a joke gone wrong at some minor award ceremony.

Jane Campion is then attacked, probably by the small people who attacked Sam Elliott.

CODA builds up steam thanks to Apple who clearly know how to sell a film, whereas Netflix clearly has no idea.

Jane Campion goes on to win Best Director at the Oscars, the only win for her film which received the most nominations for the year (12). And it is very, very rare for a film to only win Best Director - clearly a career recognition award , that an award for the film itself (basically most Academy members agreed with Sam Elliott - like it or not that is a fact).

CODA goes on to not only win Best Picture, but the other 2 awards it was nominated for. It went 3 for 3. Pretty amazing for something that is basically a Hallmark Film and will be forgotten very soon whilst The Power of the Dogs will be long remembered (by the way I don't like The Power of the Dogs or CODA).

Whatever one may think of Sam Elliotts comments on the film (his comment 'that woman' is disgusting) he clearly reflects the views of many Academy members.

I forgot to add that poor Jane Campion was forced to read her Oscar acceptance speech from a piece of paper because clearly Netflix and her management didn't trust her to give a speech from her heart without accidentally offending somebody.

It is time for the Academy to close up shop.

Sam Elliott sure likes the F bomb. Is that the base of his vocabulary?

Elliott killed the Oscar momentum.

R251 No I didn't!

I'm too self absorbed with myself

It's on Netflix.

Sam Elliott Apologizes For ‘Power Of The Dog’

...but the damage was done.

In other words, “I want to keep working.”

Notice he waited to see if Campion would win the Oscar for Best Director.

He apologized, and that's good. Of course, many gays are bitter and won't accept anyone's apology, go figure.

I wonder if Sam Elliot has a deal with Apple or another studio that was nominated in the academy awards it’s suspicious how he intentionally blasted the movie during award season were other academy members were still voting and waited till it was over to apologize.

The Power of the Dog isn't that gay. Not one dick touched by another man. Dunst should have been given more to do.

Sam Elliott didn't harm The Power of the Dog one bit. It is simply too arty for most of the Academy and the lone Jane Campion win was largely due to respect for her amazing personal talent.

The Academy generally have very pedestrian taste. CODA, Smith, Chastain, Kusher, Belfast (screenplay), CODA (screenplay adaptation) wins are not going to age well.

Campion's win and the supporting actress winners win on the other hand will age well.

shut ur ass old man. u can still go to fukin hell.

R260 WSS (2021) and the actress who plays Anita are instantly forgettable and regrettable. She will never eclipse Moreno nor will the film. It feels like a Disney production. It's more Newsies than WSS.

R258, wtf?

Back in 1975, some kid whose father was doing PR for "Lifeguard" hosted a party at his house in Malibu and the cast and crew were there.

Before he left, Sam asked the host if he could grab a shower and the son showed him the way to the bathroom. He managed to get a good look at Sam naked and years later posted online that Sam was majorly hung, long, thick, cut with big balls.

Why would he need to shower? Was he dirty? Couldn't he shower at home? Weird story

[quote]and the actress who plays Anita are instantly forgettable and regrettable. She will never eclipse Moreno nor will the film. It feels like a Disney production. It's more Newsies than WSS.

She doesn't have to eclipse anyone. Ariana DeBose was also in "The Prom" and was adorable. She'll have a career and be just fine.

I agree, r265.

And, after showing him where the shower and presumably the towels were, he was able to hang around long enough for Sam to get naked while the kid stood there?

Yeah, ok.

Why do fags have to be so hate-filled? Makes no sense, especially after someone apologizes. Is that how you are in real life? Someone apologizes and you call them a cunt? Or you say you want them to go straight to hell? That's how you want to be treated when someone apologizes to you.

Grow up, losers.

I've never understood why it's acceptable to make a lot of horrible comments publicly that you know everyone is going to be offended by, then "apologize" and people are supposed to act like you don't really feel that way? Why did you do it in the first place? Other than being drunk I can't understand why.

R266 yeah, she's a household name and everyone is talking about WSS and The Prom!

Ariana De Bose=queer today, gone tomorrow

[quote] Why do fags have to be so hate-filled?

It's not just 'fags', R268. Almost all of the current Twitter generation spurt bile every day on line.

They think they are "Social Justice Warriors" but they're just scolds just like their religious grandparents were scolds..

The minute I heard that on Maron's podcast I could just feel PoTD's Oscar momentum just deflate. He cost that film Best Picture and Best Adapted Screenplay, to be sure.

Not because he's so important but because he put it out there. It was like Brokeback all over again.

Maron should've just edited it out.

[quote]yeah, she's a household name and everyone is talking about WSS and The Prom!

Hey, is it she's a girl? Out and happy, or not white? Or maybe you're just naturally a cunt?