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It's Just Not Fair That He Couldn't Walk Around His Job Exposing His Penis For Laughs

John Barrowman Likens Cancel Culture To ‘Hyenas’ For Trying To ‘Strip Him Of His 35-Year Career’

John Barrowman has hit out at cancel culture, saying it has gone “way too far” and compared those who engage in it as “hyenas” for trying to end his career.

The actor and presenter was at the centre of on-set misconduct allegations last year, with claims that he repeatedly exposed himself on the sets of Torchwood and Doctor Who.

The 54-year-old has always maintained that the stories about his behaviour had been “exaggerated”, describing it as ​​“bawdy, silly behaviour” and issued an apology.

During an interview on Tuesday’s Good Morning Britain, the star double-downed on his view that his behaviour was not “sexual harassment”.

“It was tom foolery and it was silly,” he insisted. “We had a great time on set. It wasn’t sexual harassment. The public have seen that.”

He added: “Cancel culture has tried to strip my career after 35 years. The stories are not new. I wrote about them in my autobiography.

“Cancel culture are like hyenas that are trying to strip the meat off the bone. Cancel culture has gone way too far, I am ready to move on now and so is everyone else.”

John said the fallout from the controversy had been difficult to deal with and that he had been worried about his reputation.

“It was very traumatic and upsetting for me and my family, companies believed what was said on Twitter instead of people talking to me,” he said.

“I was not sleeping. I was so worried about what people were going to say. We need to learn to forgive, it was a different time now. I wouldn’t do that now as times are different.

In May last year, The Guardian published allegations from two women that the actor exposed himself “on a regular basis” behind the scenes of Doctor Who and Torchwood.

Numerous witnesses described the incidents to the newspaper as “inappropriate pranks”.

After the allegations came to light, John apologised, describing his behaviour as “tomfoolery” and that he has evolved in the years since.

He added that it was “only ever intended in good humour to entertain colleagues on set and backstage”.

In a statement issued in June, he said: “With the benefit of hindsight, I understand that upset may have been caused by my exuberant behaviour and I have apologised for this previously. Since my apology in November 2008, my understanding and behaviour have also changed.”

Julie Gardner, an executive producer on Doctor Who and Torchwood, also confirmed to The Guardian that she had received a complaint about his behaviour on set “around 2008”.

“I met with John and reprimanded him [to] make it clear to both John and his agent that behaviour of this kind would not be tolerated,” Gardner said, adding that she also spoke to the show’s other executive producers and the head of BBC drama commissioning.

“To my knowledge, John’s inappropriate behaviour stopped thereafter,” she added.

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by Anonymousreply 303March 4, 2023 11:16 AM

Who’s this Tom Foolery character?

by Anonymousreply 1February 26, 2022 2:22 AM

What a loser!

by Anonymousreply 2February 26, 2022 2:22 AM

Who WOULDN"T want to see his thick, uncut cock??? Where are the pics?

by Anonymousreply 3February 26, 2022 2:25 AM

[quote]Who WOULDN"T want to see his thick, uncut cock???

People who are serious about their job and just want to work and go home to their families?

by Anonymousreply 4February 26, 2022 2:27 AM

Man has he aged badly.

by Anonymousreply 5February 26, 2022 2:31 AM

[quote]We need to learn to forgive, it was a different time now. I wouldn’t do that now as times are different.

I missed the era where it was perfectly acceptable to take your dick out and tap it on your co-stars shoulder.

by Anonymousreply 6February 26, 2022 2:42 AM

I wonder why Luke Bryan hasn't been fired from American Idol? Every male artist that tours with him, that I have seen interviewed has a story about when he got completely nude and surprised them. Apparently it is a "prank" he plays on all of them. I mean if I was on tour with him, I wouldn't complain, but he does it. I think a lot of entertainers, if not all of them, have a streak of exhibitionism.

by Anonymousreply 7February 26, 2022 2:50 AM

Were the two women who complained identified?

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by Anonymousreply 8February 26, 2022 2:53 AM

He's such an attention whore, I do believe him that he wasn't doing it to harass anyone. But the ones that complained probably weren't the only ones that didn't want to see or got tired of it pretty quickly.

by Anonymousreply 9February 26, 2022 3:10 AM

[quote]He's such an attention whore

That's an understatement!

I've had to interact and be around him at several conventions/signing events and his desperate (and rather pathetic) ploys for attention is always met with eyerolls and groans.

by Anonymousreply 10February 26, 2022 3:57 AM

For God’s sake ladies, the man is an avowed and notorious homosexualist.

by Anonymousreply 11February 26, 2022 4:58 AM

He has forever shown his cock to anyone who even showed the least bit of interest.

He was the lead in one of my friend's shows, and he whipped it out for my friend and swung it around. He's proud of it.

He also got thrown out of my gym for playing too obviously in the jacuzzi and sauna.

by Anonymousreply 12February 26, 2022 5:11 AM

Imagine if it were somebody flashing their vagina at work. Although I love looking at cocks, I can understand why people complained about him.

by Anonymousreply 13February 26, 2022 5:23 AM

How is this a prank or any different than nude pervs who used to wear trenchcoats on the street to flash women who walked by? Was that a prank?

by Anonymousreply 14February 26, 2022 5:41 AM

R5. He really has. It's a shame because he was good looking in Torchwood (though not really to my tastes). When I saw him in Arrow S1 years ago I was saddened by his face fat.

Now.... oof.

by Anonymousreply 15February 26, 2022 5:43 AM

Matthew Fox and David Boreanaz used to do this too and no one complained. They never wore clothes on set.

by Anonymousreply 16February 26, 2022 6:06 AM

[quote] Imagine if it were somebody flashing their vagina at work. Although I love looking at cocks, I can understand why people complained about him.

There’s a clip of Stephen Fry and Emma Thompson on a tv show (I think QI) and he describes her doing that exact thing. Of course the story was funny because ET wasn’t physically threatening with her vagina and Stephen Fry is so transphobic he was physically repulsed by her.

by Anonymousreply 17February 26, 2022 6:11 AM

We need photographic evidence of these allegations before this gets out of hand... or taps a shoulder

by Anonymousreply 18February 26, 2022 6:13 AM

I can't even recognize him from OP's photo, but he looks good as an old man, just totally different.

by Anonymousreply 19February 26, 2022 6:24 AM

[quote] Of course the story was funny because ET wasn’t physically threatening with her vagina and Stephen Fry is so transphobic he was physically repulsed by her.

I didn’t know Emma Thompson was trans. I guess she passes, unlike Felicity Huffman.

by Anonymousreply 20February 26, 2022 6:32 AM

r8 so the complaints coming from fraus? Typical.

why were they offended anyway? its nothing sexual and hes not even into clams.

by Anonymousreply 21February 26, 2022 6:33 AM

[quote] Of course the story was funny because ET wasn’t physically threatening with her vagina and Stephen Fry is so transphobic he was physically repulsed by her.

Does Emma have a frankencunt with a pleasant peanut clit?

by Anonymousreply 22February 26, 2022 6:34 AM

What's so funny about his penis that he was sure everyone would laugh at it if he showed them?

by Anonymousreply 23February 26, 2022 6:49 AM

He looks fine! He's a nice looking dude with a big dick.

He's 54....what is he supposed to look like? Botoxed to a mask like appearance with a head of shitty dyed hair?

Really...the Queens on here bitching about every man's looks over the age of 45 and screeching "they hit the wall!"

It's called aging. Cope.

by Anonymousreply 24February 26, 2022 6:50 AM

[quote]He's 54....what is he supposed to look like? Botoxed to a mask like appearance with a head of shitty dyed hair? Really...the Queens on here bitching about every man's looks over the age of 45 and screeching "they hit the wall!"

SING IT GIRL!

The bitches on her swarm around and attack anyone who looks their age and not the 30 years old pristine version of themselves, and then they ridicule the people who have tried to stay young and retain the looks of their youth.

Earlier in the week there was a thread about Scott Eastwood losing his looks at the age of 35 followed by a thread condemning Courtney Cox's efforts to stay youthful.

Barrowman looks just fine for his age, He's a narcissist and a sex pest, but he still looks great.

Naturally most Dataloungers look like one of the men in this photo.

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by Anonymousreply 25February 26, 2022 6:58 AM

R25. I dunno, his face is a bit saggy. He reminds me a bit of Tom Cruise.

But yeah, aging sucks. Getting work done is worse though - makes you look like a mummy. I admire that he hasn't fallen into that trap.

I think Scott still looks fantastic.

by Anonymousreply 26February 26, 2022 7:06 AM

He looks good in OP’s pic

by Anonymousreply 27February 26, 2022 7:24 AM

The artfully gray hair suits him

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by Anonymousreply 28February 26, 2022 7:29 AM

What is the point of attacking him now? Cancel culture IS out of control.

by Anonymousreply 29February 26, 2022 7:30 AM

^ link doesn’t seem to work

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by Anonymousreply 30February 26, 2022 7:31 AM

[quote]What is the point of attacking him now? Cancel culture IS out of control.

Do you have a job? If so when you go in to work on Monday morning, unzip your trousers, take out your penis and rub it against your colleagues' shoulders and see what their reaction is when they turn around. Or try it on public transport. Or outside a children's school.

Barrowman hasn't been cancelled - he was on a BBC show a couple of weeks ago discussing how life has changed for gay people during the 70 years of the Queen's reign. Boy George was also on the show - the man who went to prison for kidnapping a prostitute and violently assaulting him.

Barrowman has been censured, not cancelled. He's been held to account for appalling behaviour.

If he'd been cancelled he wouldn't be appearing on TV regularly to talk about whether or not he's been cancelled for what under any other circumstances would be a criminal offence.

by Anonymousreply 31February 26, 2022 7:41 AM

R31 I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.

by Anonymousreply 32February 26, 2022 7:45 AM

[quote][R31] I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.

I have my moments but I always make a point not to sexually assault anyone.

by Anonymousreply 33February 26, 2022 7:47 AM

[quote]He added that it was “only ever intended in good humour to entertain colleagues on set and backstage”.

I have always found the sight of a fine penis entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 34February 26, 2022 8:07 AM

"I bet you're a lot of fun at parties."

"I have my moments but I always make a point not to sexually assault anyone. "

What do you think makes parties fun then?

by Anonymousreply 35February 26, 2022 8:26 AM

If any one of us took our penis out at work just for a lark, we’d probably be arrested for indecent exposure. What makes him different and above the law? I swear he’s like one of those really annoying, hyperactive toddlers forever doing inappropriate things just to get attention. I’ve never liked him. He’s entitled and narcissistic.

by Anonymousreply 36February 26, 2022 8:51 AM

Is this the English sense of humor? I remember reading about one of the Monty Python guys who would get drunk and bite women’s asses in bars as a joke. He did it in a US bar and the woman’s bf knocked him out. Funny in UK but not funny here.

by Anonymousreply 37February 26, 2022 8:56 AM

No, it’s not the English sense of humour. He’s just an attention seeking dick.

by Anonymousreply 38February 26, 2022 8:59 AM

^ If his dick is as nice as they say, I'll give it some attention :)

by Anonymousreply 39February 26, 2022 9:02 AM

Tom foolery? I would say it’s Dick foolery!

by Anonymousreply 40February 26, 2022 9:05 AM

I always thought he came across douchey.

by Anonymousreply 41February 26, 2022 9:09 AM

Boys will be boys

by Anonymousreply 42February 26, 2022 9:10 AM

That's indecent exposure and he would have been arrested in the US. If that's English humor, that's sick.

by Anonymousreply 43February 26, 2022 9:10 AM

^ Wow, you sound personally offended

Do you need a hug?

by Anonymousreply 44February 26, 2022 9:13 AM

In my college days I was in theater groups, singing groups and frat houses where we used to moon and flash 24/7. The challenge was to find creative ways of exposing yourself to fellow men. People even got nicknames based strictly on their genitalia. Simpler times, no snowflakes. Damn I miss those days.

by Anonymousreply 45February 26, 2022 9:15 AM

^There are people who are still suffering from PTSD because of your silly antics

You should be ashamed and feel bad

by Anonymousreply 46February 26, 2022 9:17 AM

[quote] There are people who are still suffering from PTSD because of your silly antics

Must be horrible

by Anonymousreply 47February 26, 2022 9:23 AM

^ Not really

by Anonymousreply 48February 26, 2022 9:26 AM

That's gay extroverts for you. Some feel the need to be the class clown in order to be liked and to be the center of attention.

But as he points out it wasn't malicious, on the other hand I can see some people being annoyed when they prefer a more professional work environment.

by Anonymousreply 49February 26, 2022 9:27 AM

I thought he went back to dyeing his hair?

Still hot.

by Anonymousreply 50February 26, 2022 9:28 AM

I saw him in two musicals in West End in mid 90s and then walking in the street the day after I saw the second musical. We walked and talked few minutes. He was handsome lovely and had hot body.

by Anonymousreply 51February 26, 2022 10:23 AM

^ Did he show you his junk?

by Anonymousreply 52February 26, 2022 10:25 AM

He’s not a boy, though. He’s an adult and not some ADHD toddler. Supposedly, anyway.

by Anonymousreply 53February 26, 2022 10:28 AM

R52 sadly no, I would probably took it them and there… or in a toilet of a nearby gay bar even though I was young and shy but he was hot

by Anonymousreply 54February 26, 2022 10:29 AM

[quote]He's a narcissist and a sex pest

I LOVE the term "sex pest". Wish we used it more in the US. It distinguishes behavior that is merely annoying from more serious harassment.

by Anonymousreply 55February 26, 2022 10:34 AM

R49 It's still degrading to the women he did it to, they were coworkers. There is an issue with gay men thinking that it's alright to sexually assault women because they're not personally getting off on it. Still disrespectful to your work colleagues. How hard is it to not expose your cock on a set? Why couldn't anyone just tell him to stop?

by Anonymousreply 56February 26, 2022 10:35 AM

@r54, I like your quick-thinking :)

by Anonymousreply 57February 26, 2022 10:36 AM

He looks good, but aged. Must be all that sun on his dick.

by Anonymousreply 58February 26, 2022 10:36 AM

"Why couldn't anyone just tell him to stop? "

Maybe they liked what they saw

by Anonymousreply 59February 26, 2022 10:37 AM

R59 Sure, John.

by Anonymousreply 60February 26, 2022 10:40 AM

WW for R31. Excellent, thoughtful comment. R32 is a moron.

by Anonymousreply 61February 26, 2022 10:40 AM

It was a crass attempt at humor, I thought you Brits liked bawdy humor

"[R59] Sure, John. "

You bet, Mary

by Anonymousreply 62February 26, 2022 10:47 AM

Dylan Moran recently talked about this in an interview, he didn't mention Barrowman but I figured that's who he was referring to, basically saying "no matter what job you're in, if you take your dick out in front of everyone, how do you think that will play out for your career?" Since it's in the Telegraph behind a paywall I'll link to a tweet with screenshots.

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by Anonymousreply 63February 26, 2022 10:55 AM

If I take my dick out at work, I'm fired on the spot.

There's really nothing complicated here. Expose yourself on the job and there are consequences. Once again, "cancel culture" is a myth. What happens to these people is just "consequences," not "cancel culture."

by Anonymousreply 64February 26, 2022 11:01 AM

Is r45 a joke? Is it a parody of something? "In college 50 years ago we did this all the time." Uh, you were in college and it was 50 years ago, Boomer. Not remotely the same thing.

by Anonymousreply 65February 26, 2022 11:02 AM

Maybe he should have flashed his ass...

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by Anonymousreply 66February 26, 2022 11:07 AM

John would get along great with David Boreanaz or Dax Shepard.

by Anonymousreply 67February 26, 2022 11:07 AM

[quote] What happens to these people is just "consequences," not "cancel culture."

It's the same, just repackaged for the modern day social media consumer.

by Anonymousreply 68February 26, 2022 11:09 AM

Sorry, just rebranded for the modern day social media consumer.

by Anonymousreply 69February 26, 2022 11:10 AM

[quote]In my college days I was in theater groups, singing groups and frat houses where we used to moon and flash 24/7. The challenge was to find creative ways of exposing yourself to fellow men. People even got nicknames based strictly on their genitalia. Simpler times, no snowflakes. Damn I miss those days.

Emphasis on "college days."

College isn't the real world, snowflake.

by Anonymousreply 70February 26, 2022 11:11 AM

R31 seems like an office grunt who can't understand the world beyond their cubicle.

by Anonymousreply 71February 26, 2022 11:14 AM

Barrowman's behaviour was known about for years. It was a joke - it was referenced in The Ballad of Russell and Julie, recorded by Doctor Who stars about the writer and producer of the show. Everyone knew that's what he did and it was hilarious!

It stopped being hilarious when Noel Clarke was accused of being a sex pest, bully and general all round cunt in a major expose, and a video of Clarke discussing Barrowman's behaviour with other Doctor Who stars was shared widely.

It was also well known that Christopher Ecclestone HATED working on Doctor Who. He had some personal issues going on but he found the general culture on the show appalling.

by Anonymousreply 72February 26, 2022 11:18 AM

Let the adults talk, R71.

by Anonymousreply 73February 26, 2022 11:24 AM

Times change. With minorities gaining more and more power, through acceptance, they are in a position where they can point out things like "remember when you made those jokes about my ethnicity / sexual Identity / gender / etc. ? I was fake laughing to not make a big fuss, but to tell you the truth: I was hurt".

We are self-centered ignoramuses. We do and say shit, and most of the time we lack self awareness. Most of what we do and say is not intended to be hurtful, but others receive and perceive it differently. We can only learn when we are told what boundaries we have crossed without knowing.

by Anonymousreply 74February 26, 2022 11:25 AM

He did it. It was wrong. He's apologised.

What more can he do? Go on a sex pest awareness course?

Does he have to beg for forgiveness from Twitter every day for the rest of his life?

by Anonymousreply 75February 26, 2022 11:29 AM

[quote]Let the adults talk, [R71].

Awww, I struck a nerve. How cute.

by Anonymousreply 76February 26, 2022 11:29 AM

I want more details about David Boreanaz, Matthew Fox, and Dax Shepard parading around naked on set.

When he was promoting the first Suicide Squad, Jai Courtney talked about streaking around the set. There was even a photo. (To me that’s different from placing your dick on a costar’s shoulder as a gag.)

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by Anonymousreply 77February 26, 2022 11:30 AM

I want photos of Matthew Fox presenting hole.

Thanks...

by Anonymousreply 78February 26, 2022 11:33 AM

Isn't Jai Courtney Australian? Streaking is hugely popular over there.

by Anonymousreply 79February 26, 2022 11:34 AM

Look, if no one wants to work with Barrowman anymore because of how he's acted in the past, then he's just going to have to deal with that. He's not OWED anything. Maybe some people who weren't that taken aback by the cock shenanigans were put off by his constant whining about it and his melodramatic claims that there's a cult of cancel culture warriors trying to strip him of a 35-year career.

What's he supposed to do? Apologize, suck it up and act like an adult. He's chosen not to do that, and there have been repercussions.

by Anonymousreply 80February 26, 2022 11:36 AM

[quote] There is an issue with gay men thinking that it's alright to sexually assault women because they're not personally getting off on it.

For every gay man I may have seen doing something like that (1 maybe 2 in my entire lifetime) I can recall DOZENS of straight women who help themselves to my body parts, from pinching my nipples to spanking my butt to, yes, grabbing my crotch. Don’t try to pin this actor’s behavior on the entire gay community you fucking bigot. And shame on you if you’re a gay man.

by Anonymousreply 81February 26, 2022 11:37 AM

[quote]For every gay man I may have seen doing something like that (1 maybe 2 in my entire lifetime) I can recall DOZENS of straight women who help themselves to my body parts, from pinching my nipples to spanking my butt to, yes, grabbing my crotch. Don’t try to pin this actor’s behavior on the entire gay community you fucking bigot. And shame on you if you’re a gay man.

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 82February 26, 2022 11:38 AM

[quote] I can recall DOZENS of straight women who help themselves to my body parts, from pinching my nipples to spanking my butt to, yes, grabbing my crotch.

That's....fascinating. Tell us more.

by Anonymousreply 83February 26, 2022 11:40 AM

Dozens of women have pinched your nipples for fun & laughs? Oh come on, no one is buying that.

by Anonymousreply 84February 26, 2022 11:45 AM

[quote] Emphasis on "college days." College isn't the real world, snowflake.

It also happened in professional workplaces right after college and subsequently in my professional theater days. Not saying it was right, just that the times were different and - the same way I selfishly sometimes pine for the underground gay days when we were all like a big secret club (without remembering how much harder we had it elsewhere in society) - sometimes I do yearn for the days when we were much more careless. Again I emphasize OTHER TIMES and NOT RIGHT .

I have a handful of theater cast pics where we were all in various degrees of nudity/flashing. I also remember all the girls in a Wall Street office gathering around me at 10:30 am because word had gotten out (thanks to me confiding in a male employee) that I would always get a hard-on like clockwork every morning at that time.

We would have all gotten fired had we done that today, that’s for sure. Doesn’t mean that I don’t sometimes miss certain circumstances - like the office example where everyone involved was a willing participant.

by Anonymousreply 85February 26, 2022 11:45 AM

[quote]That's....fascinating. Tell us more.

Go to a gay bar when a bachelorette party shows up and experience it for yourself.

by Anonymousreply 86February 26, 2022 11:45 AM

In many cases he's absolutely right. But what I find ridiculous about his attitude is that cancel culture was in full force when he got called out. At some point people have got to be smart enough to know that even if they're not doing anything bad enough to be canceled for but would be considered even remotely offensive to anyone they need to not do it. These days you never know which person in the crowd who is laughing along side of you, with you, or at you for something you've said or done is there's no guarantee they don't have hateful motivations later on. And that is magnified incredibly for anyone in the entertainment business since that business is packed to the gills with people filled with pathological envy at anyone who has a bigger career than they have and will waste no opportunity to hurt another if they think it will help them get higher up, or just out of spite.

Everyone with a lot to lose had better start acting as if they're in a convent when they're in public these days.

by Anonymousreply 87February 26, 2022 11:46 AM

[quote] Dozens of women have pinched your nipples for fun & laughs? Oh come on, no one is buying that.

Well the fact that they didn’t do it to you doesn’t negate that they’ve done it to me dozens of times (not a dozen women at the same time, silly). Says more about your nipples than my veracity I suppose.

by Anonymousreply 88February 26, 2022 11:48 AM

^^^ or maybe you live in a town where there are no beaches or swimming resorts^^^ I’m surrounded by both in a year-round tropical climate that features topless men especially.

by Anonymousreply 89February 26, 2022 11:51 AM

@r88, I bet you have some nice nips :)

by Anonymousreply 90February 26, 2022 11:53 AM

White, middle aged males are always whining about the good old days when they could act like misogynistic, racist, homophobic assholes with impunity.

by Anonymousreply 91February 26, 2022 11:54 AM

^ You win...

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by Anonymousreply 92February 26, 2022 11:56 AM

R91 - wow Barrowman's homophobic too? Does his husband know?

by Anonymousreply 93February 26, 2022 11:57 AM

R88, saying "it happened to me because I'm hot enough to get sexually assaulted by women and you're not" doesn't exactly make your story more believable.

by Anonymousreply 94February 26, 2022 11:58 AM

[quote] There is an issue with gay men thinking that it's alright to sexually assault women because they're not personally getting off on it.

This never happens. We Gays respect women!

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by Anonymousreply 95February 26, 2022 12:01 PM

[Quote] Isn't Jai Courtney Australian? Streaking is hugely popular over there.

It is?🤔

[Quote] I want more details about David Boreanaz, Matthew Fox, and Dax Shepard parading around naked on set.

It wasn't on a set. Dax was walking around naked "harassing" Jessica Alba in Punk'd.

by Anonymousreply 96February 26, 2022 12:05 PM

Reply 10 from linked thread.

[bold] Uber hottie with an exhibitionist streak in him (he was reportedly always walking around naked during the making of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake that he's in, and he's always flashing his ass and getting naked somewhere in public). [/bold] He's really good on the current SyFy series Haven, too. I agree with [R6] about Lie With Me. It's a sexy little Canadian movie where he and his co-star have a LOT of graphic sex scenes, one in which she goes down on him and it looks quite real.

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by Anonymousreply 97February 26, 2022 12:18 PM

I read very hot Timothy Adams used walked naked around the set of Sunset Beach. Now that’s something I would have wanted to sea - and feel.

by Anonymousreply 98February 26, 2022 12:18 PM

Confirmation at 1-59

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by Anonymousreply 99February 26, 2022 12:19 PM

[quote]Isn't Jai Courtney Australian? Streaking is hugely popular over there.

[quote]It is?🤔

Yeah, it is. Where have you been?

by Anonymousreply 100February 26, 2022 12:23 PM

Dick pic?

by Anonymousreply 101February 26, 2022 12:25 PM

He should have been more careful. Now that women are in the workplace, behaviour that was considered silly and fun a generation ago is sexual harassment, even when there's no sexual component. He needs to adapt with the times and US-led social media.

by Anonymousreply 102February 26, 2022 12:27 PM

r102. Those things happened way before social media's #MeToo and Cancel Culture.

by Anonymousreply 103February 26, 2022 12:28 PM

Or send this silly women back to their washing and cooking!

by Anonymousreply 104February 26, 2022 12:29 PM

R100 I don't see streaking as an Aussie thing.

by Anonymousreply 105February 26, 2022 12:29 PM

[quote]Now that women are in the workplace

What the fuck? Women started working outside of the home in large numbers in the early 1970s.

by Anonymousreply 106February 26, 2022 12:30 PM

Apologies if you weren't being facetious, but you do realise his male co-stars complained too, R8? It's the reason Christopher Eccleston left Dr Who after one season.

by Anonymousreply 107February 26, 2022 12:30 PM

[quote] I don't see streaking as an Aussie thing.

That's nice. The rest of the world does.

by Anonymousreply 108February 26, 2022 12:34 PM

[quote] I missed the era where it was perfectly acceptable to take your dick out and tap it on your co-stars shoulder.

Tapping my dick on a co-worker's shoulder was my power move. Sealed a few deals that way too.

by Anonymousreply 109February 26, 2022 12:38 PM

R107 Christopher Eccleston's relationship with Dr. Who's showrunners broke down right from the start and well before Barrowman's episodes.

by Anonymousreply 110February 26, 2022 12:38 PM

R110 is right - Christopher had issues with Phil Collinson and Russell T Davies more than with any co-stars.

by Anonymousreply 111February 26, 2022 12:43 PM

Maybe so, R110, but it is well known he wasn't impressed with Barrowman or the on set culture at Dr Who.

by Anonymousreply 112February 26, 2022 12:43 PM

Well, r112, it's not surprising he hated the culture considering things went downhill before filming even started.

by Anonymousreply 113February 26, 2022 12:49 PM

R94, it happened to me because I'm hot enough to get sexually assaulted by women and you're not.

by Anonymousreply 114February 26, 2022 12:53 PM

It's just nudity. Why the outcry?

by Anonymousreply 115February 26, 2022 12:57 PM

Tell me you're a narcissist without ... etc. "Everybody! I demand you look at my cock!!"

He didn't do it for laughs. He did it because he's probably an exhausting cunt who's desperate to be the center of attention.

by Anonymousreply 116February 26, 2022 1:00 PM

He made a habit of it. He didn't read the room. He was in a privileged position and used that to disregard how he was making others feel.

This isn't complicated. You show someone your nude body without their consent at WORK and people will be offended. Duh.

Anyway, it's good he apologized and stopped. Now he gets to hear about it forever and be shamed. Let's learn from his mistakes.

by Anonymousreply 117February 26, 2022 1:03 PM

Funny, seems to me he is the one constantly talking about it.

Hard to believe a narcissistic, attention craving ham would ever "play the victim." *winks*

by Anonymousreply 118February 26, 2022 1:43 PM

R50 The smart move is to dye it grey so you can control the exact shade.

by Anonymousreply 119February 26, 2022 2:01 PM

[quote] It's still degrading to the women he did it to, they were coworkers

Just the women? Why?

by Anonymousreply 120February 26, 2022 2:36 PM

What am I missing? He did it. He was called on the carpet. The behavior stopped. He subsequently acknowledges it was inappropriate.

by Anonymousreply 121February 26, 2022 3:23 PM

[quote] Now that women are in the workplace, behaviour that was considered silly and fun a generation ago is sexual harassment, even when there's no sexual component.

No, it was not considered fun and silly to take your dick out at work a generation ago.

People keep making these bizarre generalizations about the past based on things they did in college. Do you really think while you were doing this in college older people in their thirties, forties, fifties, sixties were taking their dicks out or walking around naked at work without consequences? Do you really think your dad did this at the office?

by Anonymousreply 122February 26, 2022 4:21 PM

[quote]How long ago was this, anyway?

Not sure. But why does he keep bringing it up over and over again while everyone seems to have moved on?

by Anonymousreply 123February 26, 2022 4:22 PM

If he really wanted to move on, if he were asked about it on morning TV he would say, "I behaved inappropriately in the past to be silly, but I've apologized for it. I'd like to move on." He wouldn't piss and moan about it at length.

by Anonymousreply 124February 26, 2022 4:25 PM

we need the pics.

by Anonymousreply 125February 26, 2022 9:37 PM

I'm partial to some Tom Foolery.

by Anonymousreply 126February 26, 2022 9:54 PM

Men--gay or straight--just don't view showing off their penis as all that offensive.

by Anonymousreply 127February 26, 2022 11:35 PM

Men need to realize that by experience and instinct, a woman suddenly seeing a dick she doesn't want to see without warning typically means one thing in the woman's mind.

by Anonymousreply 128February 26, 2022 11:38 PM

He always came off like a douche bag.

by Anonymousreply 129February 26, 2022 11:42 PM

The only thing that bothers me about him whining about this is that up until it happened to him he used twitter to publicly complain about anything and everything that did not suit him - a late flight, a bad sandwich served him, anything and everything he would call out and name them to basically get them cancelled. It’s a bitch when it comes back on you.

by Anonymousreply 130February 26, 2022 11:46 PM

Are you a woman, R128?

Are you a "typical" woman?

by Anonymousreply 131February 26, 2022 11:48 PM

Sounds like he probably stored up an awful lot of bad karma in his professional life too. What goes round comes round and he always seemed like a slimy prick to me, so my sympathy is limited.

by Anonymousreply 132February 26, 2022 11:48 PM

We've now attained 130 posts of outraged over his three inches of flaccid flesh.

by Anonymousreply 133February 26, 2022 11:53 PM

Has he ever shown hole?

by Anonymousreply 134February 26, 2022 11:56 PM

R21 a lot of frau’s deeply hate men.

by Anonymousreply 135February 27, 2022 12:05 AM

^ A lot of frauen think like their mother.

by Anonymousreply 136February 27, 2022 12:18 AM

It's not sexual harassment and it's not traumatic. But it's fucking annoying and stupid. It sounds like something a college frat boy would do which is pretty much what he admitted.

But does he really think he's going to get a lot of work even if he hadn't done that shit? He's almost 60 years old, his career is most likely over anyway

by Anonymousreply 137February 27, 2022 12:33 AM

I think what is all boils down to is that Barrowman got to the point he believed his own PR, and like so many before him, thought he could do no wrong. I can just picture him prancing around that set acting like he's the king of the world and no matter what he does everyone will automatically think it enchanting. He's finally getting a taste of reality.

by Anonymousreply 138February 27, 2022 12:33 AM

In olden days a glimpse of penis was seen as shocking but now, God knows, anything goes!

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by Anonymousreply 139February 27, 2022 12:45 AM

The lyrics continue—

[quote] If me undressed you like… nobody will oppose. When the smart set is intruding in nudist parties every night in studios.

by Anonymousreply 140February 27, 2022 12:49 AM

In olden days, a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking!

by Anonymousreply 141February 27, 2022 4:30 AM

I still think kind of stupid behavior is funny. Every set needs a good jester.

by Anonymousreply 142February 27, 2022 5:58 AM

Get back to me when he can tie it in a loop and twirl it

by Anonymousreply 143February 27, 2022 6:05 AM

Who cares, he's old now.

by Anonymousreply 144February 27, 2022 6:08 AM

People need to stop with all the pearl clutching.

by Anonymousreply 145February 27, 2022 6:20 AM

Is that really John Barrowman? He looks challenged-faced as well as angry and attention-seeking.

He should have sought a more pleasing, less self-aggrandizing trope of himself.

Now, he's just REALLY ANNOYED that he has to expend energy, "splaining.". Christ. What a BOOB

by Anonymousreply 146February 27, 2022 6:30 AM

[quote]It's not sexual harassment and it's not traumatic. But it's fucking annoying and stupid. It sounds like something a college frat boy would do which is pretty much what he admitted.

Seriously, go into work on Monday, stand behind a colleague who is sitting down, whip out your penis and tap them on the shoulder with it until they turn around and see what you're doing.

Your employers will tell you pretty quickly that it IS sexual harassment, and the police will tell you whether it's a sexual assault.

by Anonymousreply 147February 27, 2022 7:06 AM

Dollar Store Tom Cruise is still butthurt that most of his costars don't want him to helicopter his dick around during working hours. Yawn.

by Anonymousreply 148February 27, 2022 7:09 AM

R147 a movie or TV show set isn't like a normal job, performers are encouraged to improvise and push the limits of polite society

by Anonymousreply 149February 27, 2022 7:16 AM

[quote][R107] Christopher Eccleston's relationship with Dr. Who's showrunners broke down right from the start and well before Barrowman's episodes.

It was a very unpleasant working environment before Barrowman arrived, and Barrowman's excesses weren't just tolerated but encouraged.

Billie Piper was coked up a lot (remember Chazbaps?) and the production was generally chaotic, something you could understand with it being the first series.

When David Tennant took over he commented on the culture on set - he said that he and Steven Moffatt were the only straight men on set and they'd hide in a corner. It wasn't meant to be a homophobic comment, just an observation about the culture on set that they didn't always feel comfortable with.

by Anonymousreply 150February 27, 2022 7:24 AM

At parties John’s usual trick was to ‘cut’ the cake with his hard cock.

by Anonymousreply 151February 27, 2022 7:31 AM

[quote]Seriously, go into work on Monday, stand behind a colleague who is sitting down, whip out your penis and tap them on the shoulder with it until they turn around and see what you're doing.

Does your job sometimes require nudity and simulating sex?

by Anonymousreply 152February 27, 2022 8:17 AM

[quote]Does your job sometimes require nudity and simulating sex?

How many nude scenes did Barrowman have on Doctor Who, which required him to get his penis out regularly?

Stop defending something indefensible and accept that Barrowman's behaviour was appalling.

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by Anonymousreply 153February 27, 2022 8:24 AM

[quote]It was a very unpleasant working environment before Barrowman arrived, and Barrowman's excesses weren't just tolerated but encouraged.

Eccleston had his own baggage though. He admits that it was a deeply unpleasant time in his life and that going into the job he was both clinically depressed and anorexic and the stress of being Dr. Who made both worse. He didn't sound like the most pleasant to work with either.

by Anonymousreply 154February 27, 2022 8:24 AM

[quote]How many nude scenes did Barrowman have on Doctor Who, which required him to get his penis out regularly?

[uote]Stop defending something indefensible and accept that Barrowman's behaviour was appalling.

Clearly you're not familiar with Dr. Who. He did have a nude scene.

by Anonymousreply 155February 27, 2022 8:34 AM

Oh...and this happened on Torchwood where he had nude scenes.

by Anonymousreply 156February 27, 2022 8:38 AM

"Nude scenes" don't involve trying to beknight cast members with your cock at table readings. Barrowman is a creep.

by Anonymousreply 157February 27, 2022 8:40 AM

Sign me up as one of the beknighted!

by Anonymousreply 158February 27, 2022 8:42 AM

[quote]Oh...and this happened on Torchwood where he had nude scenes.

Camille Coduri worked on the first series of Doctor Who, as did Annette Badland and Noel Clarke, who discuss Barrowman's behaviour during that series in the video at R153.

Listen to Coduri say "I didn't want to say... I was being really polite.... but hey" when discussing how Barrowman rubbed his penis against her in the make up room.

by Anonymousreply 159February 27, 2022 8:45 AM

He isn’t English, he was born here in Glasgow. He switches back to his Glaswegian accent when he is here, which is irritatingly fake. He is infamous for getting his cock out whenever he socialises in Glasgow, and is widely regarded as an immature pest. He is always surrounded by a crowd of arseholes who egg him on.

by Anonymousreply 160February 27, 2022 8:53 AM

[Quote] He is always surrounded by a crowd of arseholes who egg him on.

Does this include the Arrow cast?

by Anonymousreply 161February 27, 2022 9:04 AM

@r143, "Get back to me when he can tie it in a loop and twirl it "

Or throw it over his shoulder like a continental soldier?

by Anonymousreply 162February 27, 2022 9:07 AM

If he got his penis out in front of me I would show my appreciation (for it in a backroom along with appreciation for his hole) instead of acting like some fat middle aged woman on a moral crusade because she hasn't been fucked by her husband in decades and go complain to the manager about it.

by Anonymousreply 163February 27, 2022 9:07 AM

[quote]If he got his penis out in front of me I would show my appreciation (for it in a backroom along with appreciation for his hole) instead of acting like some fat middle aged woman on a moral crusade because she hasn't been fucked by her husband in decades and go complain to the manager about it.

What would you have done if Harvey Weinstein got his penis out in front of you and started masturbating into a pot plant?

by Anonymousreply 164February 27, 2022 9:18 AM

[quote]What would you have done if Harvey Weinstein got his penis out in front of you and started masturbating into a pot plant?

Take pictures and sell them to TMZ.

by Anonymousreply 165February 27, 2022 9:20 AM

I would have rolled a joint r164.

by Anonymousreply 166February 27, 2022 9:20 AM

"instead of acting like some fat middle aged woman on a moral crusade because she hasn't been fucked by her husband in decades and go complain to the manager about it. "

That's because most Fraus on DL are Beulah Ballbreaker from Porky's who have just seen a dick come through a glory hole...

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by Anonymousreply 167February 27, 2022 9:26 AM

Rex Smith can be added to the list of those who enjoy exposing their ample cocks for all to see.

by Anonymousreply 168February 27, 2022 9:36 AM

Notorious playboy Porfirio Rubirosa liked nothing more than to display his legendary huge penis.

His favorite trick was to balance a chair on his erect cock.

by Anonymousreply 169February 27, 2022 9:39 AM

^ I'd give a quarter to see that :)

by Anonymousreply 170February 27, 2022 9:42 AM

You fucking cheapskate r170!

by Anonymousreply 171February 27, 2022 9:43 AM

Barrowman did a "live" Facebook chat from his pool a few years back, when suddenly his naked hunky boyfriend entered the frame, with his impressive cock in full view.

by Anonymousreply 172February 27, 2022 9:44 AM

Thoughts & prayers Jon!

by Anonymousreply 173February 27, 2022 9:47 AM

That would be husband, not boyfriend.

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by Anonymousreply 174February 27, 2022 9:49 AM

"In shock" - Sure, John.

by Anonymousreply 175February 27, 2022 10:40 AM

Not appropriate in an office job, but not all jobs are office jobs. I’m sure plenty of firemen and policemen josh around with nudity at their stations, as well as trainers, pro athletes, construction workers, theater folk in dressing rooms, etc etc. Immature? Absolutely! Sexual assault? Good luck pressing charges.

by Anonymousreply 176February 27, 2022 10:54 AM

[quote]Not appropriate in an office job, but not all jobs are office jobs. I’m sure plenty of firemen and policemen josh around with nudity at their stations, as well as trainers, pro athletes, construction workers, theater folk in dressing rooms, etc etc. Immature? Absolutely! Sexual assault? Good luck pressing charges.

Yes, police officers do get their dicks out in work, and get prosecuted and sacked for it. In this case he only showed a woman his cock, he didn't actually touch her with it, as Barrowman did.

[quote]An ex-police officer has been sent on a sex offenders' course after he exposed himself to a woman colleague in his own police station. Salsbury resigned from the Devon and Cornwall force after admitting three counts of exposure. The court heard how Salsbury was on duty and in uniform when he flashed at a woman police community support officer (PCSO) inside Brixham Police Station almost two years ago. Salsbury was ordered to attend a sex offenders' course as part of a two-year supervision order and he was put on the sex offenders' register for five years.

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by Anonymousreply 177February 27, 2022 11:08 AM

And here's a firefighter prosecuted after showing his dick to female colleagues.

[quote]A former Newport News fire department lieutenant has been sentenced to 20 days in jail after exposing himself to several co-workers. Sidney Lucas entered a no contest plea on two counts of indecent exposure Monday morning. During Monday's sentencing, we learned from prosecutors that he exposed himself to three female firefighters while on duty.

No doubt the Karens/Fraus/DebbieDowners who complained about Lucas will be treated like the bitches they are by the men at the fire station for ratting out one of their colleagues.

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by Anonymousreply 178February 27, 2022 11:15 AM

[quote]Now that women are in the workplace, behaviour that was considered silly and fun a generation ago

Boomer, it's 2022.

Women entering the workforce in large numbers happened in the 1970s, over 50 years ago. I am 50, I am considered one of the older people at my job, and I don't remember a time before "women in the workplace." My first boss in 1994 was a woman.

What generation are you thinking of when you say "a generation ago?" What decade do you live in?

by Anonymousreply 179February 27, 2022 11:18 AM

R164 Wouldn't happen since Harvey doesn't like other men and if it did I'd probably beat him senseless.

by Anonymousreply 180February 27, 2022 11:22 AM

Moral of the story: don’t expose yourself to women.

Men can usually do it amongst themselves with little repercussion unless there’s actual assault happening.

by Anonymousreply 181February 27, 2022 11:27 AM

I feel a tiny bit sorry for Barrowman. This was an old story, published in the past, he'd apologised and claimed he'd learned his lesson and the people who complained carried on working with him. Then it was all regurgitated in the much more serious furore over his one-time Dr Who co-star Noel Clarke, but the press can't go near that story currently, because he's been charged with assault, so they went to town on Barrowman.

by Anonymousreply 182February 27, 2022 11:39 AM

Wasn't Angie Dickinson bearding for Barrowman some years back?

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by Anonymousreply 183February 27, 2022 11:45 AM

It’s been a long time since anyone has tapped my shoulder with their dick.

by Anonymousreply 184February 27, 2022 11:48 AM

Is that a hint r184?

by Anonymousreply 185February 27, 2022 12:07 PM

^ It's a plea :(

by Anonymousreply 186February 27, 2022 12:41 PM

[quote] I didn’t know Emma Thompson was trans. I guess she passes, unlike Felicity Huffman.

And people blame me for breaking up our marriage. Oh, the things I saw!

by Anonymousreply 187February 27, 2022 1:07 PM

[quote]If he (Barrowman) got his penis out in front of me I would show my appreciation

[quote][R164] Wouldn't happen since Harvey doesn't like other men and if it did I'd probably beat him senseless.

So man you find attractive showing you his cock = acceptable

And man you find unattractive showing you his cock = worthy of a violent response

by Anonymousreply 188February 27, 2022 1:09 PM

R188, Um, yeah!

by Anonymousreply 189February 27, 2022 1:11 PM

^ Well, duh, are you new here?

by Anonymousreply 190February 27, 2022 1:11 PM

Some people here totally lack a sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 191February 27, 2022 1:22 PM

And here I thought the British were reserved and repressed!

by Anonymousreply 192February 27, 2022 3:29 PM

^ The Brits are loaded with pent-up crazy sex stuff. Stiff upper dick and all that

by Anonymousreply 193February 27, 2022 3:33 PM

John Barrowman is American, thank you.

Not even the Scottish want him, and they have such low standards their First Minister described violent woman beater Sean Connery as "the greatest ever Scotsman".

by Anonymousreply 194February 27, 2022 4:15 PM

R163 showing appreciation for some old loser flashing his dick at you makes you look desperate for dick, not the well laid man you think it does.

Hint: if you get locks of cock you won't take everything that's offered

by Anonymousreply 195February 27, 2022 5:24 PM

^ Frau trying to shame Gay men on a Gay forum talkin' Gay shit... Hahahahahaha!

by Anonymousreply 196February 27, 2022 5:58 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^retard who doesn't know how to use the R function. Go back to Reddit you cock starved loser.

by Anonymousreply 197February 27, 2022 7:24 PM

^ Was that a nerve, Cuntessa Frau Karen?

by Anonymousreply 198February 27, 2022 7:49 PM

It's boorish behavior that is typical of Brits, but I agree with John Barrowman.

Did he harm anyone? No

Did he assault anyone? No.

Was it immature? God, Yes!

Was it laddish? You betcha!

There is assault and harassment. This was neither.

by Anonymousreply 199February 27, 2022 7:50 PM

@r195, "if you get locks of cock "

Would you like to explain to the folks at home what "locks of cock" are/is?

GEDs just aren't what they used to be

by Anonymousreply 200February 27, 2022 7:53 PM

It's a typo, go take a nap sweetie R200

by Anonymousreply 201February 27, 2022 7:55 PM

^ Sure it was... *snicker* and you're a failed abortion

by Anonymousreply 202February 27, 2022 7:57 PM

He's a national treasure. Go on about your business.

by Anonymousreply 203February 27, 2022 7:59 PM

And you're an attention and dick starved troll R202. Hissing on DL won't make you more manly no matter how hard you try.

by Anonymousreply 204February 27, 2022 8:02 PM

^ Your stalking is getting creepy. I won't fuck you no matter how much you beg

Security!

by Anonymousreply 205February 27, 2022 8:05 PM

R205 oh dear no one wants to fuck a femboy like you. You wouldn't even fuck you. Now stop engaging in conversation with me, I'm not interested in your ladyboy parts.

by Anonymousreply 206February 27, 2022 8:08 PM

Girls, girls! GIRLS! You’re both bloody annoying.

by Anonymousreply 207February 27, 2022 8:09 PM

@r205, Nobody around here wants to fuck her

by Anonymousreply 208February 27, 2022 8:12 PM

Oh my 208 is now replying to himself. How pathetic...

by Anonymousreply 209February 27, 2022 8:14 PM

To everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under heaven. A time to take out your dick . A time to put the damn thing away.

by Anonymousreply 210February 27, 2022 8:19 PM

[quote]It's boorish behavior that is typical of Brits, but I agree with John Barrowman. Did he harm anyone? No. Did he assault anyone? No. There is assault and harassment. This was neither.

Not sure if Americans know the word "nonce" but BonniePrinceCharlie is most definitely a nonce.

Whipping out your penis is a criminal offence, as is touching people with your penis. Men (and some trans women) are being charged, prosecuted and found guilty of criminal offences which involve whipping out their penis, showing it to people who haven't asked to see it and touching people with their penis who haven't consented to be touched by it.

What John Barrowman did, as described by Noel Clarke and Camille Coduri, is a criminal offence. Try doing it in your workplace and see what happens. That a complaint hasn't been made to the producers of the show or the police doesn't stop it being a criminal offence.

Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones has admitted to having sex with his ex-wife Mandy Smith when she was 14 years old. He's never been charged either. He's a nonce as well.

by Anonymousreply 211February 27, 2022 9:07 PM

This woman has been offended. This woman needs to be protected from seeing a penis.

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by Anonymousreply 212February 27, 2022 9:09 PM

[quote]BonniePrinceCharlie is most definitely a nonce.

A "nonce"? One assumes Barrowman's penis, like the rest of him, is 55 years old (b. 3/11/67).

by Anonymousreply 213February 27, 2022 9:11 PM

R137 I would check with your H/R department about whether or not it’s considered harassment. Why would a gay man pull out his penis in mixed company?! Does that make me “conservative” ?! I’ve never worked anywhere over the last thirty years where that that was considered ok, much less by 2008 (when this is supposed to have happened)

by Anonymousreply 214February 27, 2022 9:13 PM

[quote] I’ve never worked anywhere over the last thirty years

Don't place your values onto others.

by Anonymousreply 215February 27, 2022 9:18 PM

He was a regular at many of bathhouse in the US. He likes people watching him have sex

by Anonymousreply 216February 27, 2022 10:07 PM

Like Clarke and his enabler Camille Coduri are such great witnesses. This is Clarke wildly deflecting from his own much worse offences.

by Anonymousreply 217February 27, 2022 10:26 PM

This thread would be 10x better with dick pics!

by Anonymousreply 218February 28, 2022 12:45 AM

Publicly exposing your dick is a crime. It was when Lauren Boebert's husband did it, it was when this guy did it.

by Anonymousreply 219February 28, 2022 12:52 AM

Can't you only be stripped of your future career? His previous shows/films are still available, he's cashed the checks for performing and lived a good life using that money.

by Anonymousreply 220February 28, 2022 6:48 AM

[quote] Like Clarke and his enabler Camille Coduri are such great witnesses. This is Clarke wildly deflecting from his own much worse offences.

Noel Clarke is a sex pest. But what he said in that video is absolutely correct as many people in this thread have proved right. The response to a gay man getting out his penis and showing it to people or hitting people with it is very different to a straight man doing it.

Barrowman is also a sex pest and people in the UK have been prosecuted or sacked from their jobs for doing what he did. Both Clarke and Barrowman went unpunished for years because the nature of the tv business means if you rock the boat you’ll be thrown overboard.

And women with penises aren’t allowed or just whip them out either - this trans woman was suspended for talking photos of herself with her penis out at her work desk and on public transport.

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by Anonymousreply 221February 28, 2022 6:54 AM

[quote] Can't you only be stripped of your future career? His previous shows/films are still available, he's cashed the checks for performing and lived a good life using that money.

Barrowman was dropped as a judge for ITV’s dureent series of Dancing On Ice - where celebs do their best Tonya Harding turn - and replaced by the hugely popular Oti Mabuse. He’s only done the job for 2 years and wasn’t very well liked so it was a convenient excuse for ITV to drop him.

But Barrowman is still working on ITV’s All Star Musicals, where celebs perform a song from a musical. When he appeared on the Christmas show there were a lot of comments on social media about his past behaviour which lead to questions about why he hasn’t been cancelled!

So still working and hasn’t been banned from TV. The opposite of being cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 222February 28, 2022 7:03 AM

[quote] Wouldn't happen since Harvey doesn't like other men and if it did I'd probably beat him senseless.

Oh gurl, I'm sure you'd beat him so hard with your clutch purse they'd be picking the bugle beads out of his teeth!

by Anonymousreply 223February 28, 2022 7:05 AM

[quote] Publicly exposing your dick is a crime.

So was it a crime when Chris Pratt did it to Amy Phoeler? Should he be arrested?

by Anonymousreply 224February 28, 2022 8:12 AM

Matthew Fox was exposing his penis to the entire cast of Lost every day for 6 years. Should he be arrested?

by Anonymousreply 225February 28, 2022 8:14 AM

I saw that clip and from the look on Amy's face Chris came close to being fired.. She would have been within her rights.

by Anonymousreply 226February 28, 2022 8:15 AM

R224 R225 yes. Keep your dick in your pants unless you are at a gay sauna or someone asks you to take it out and show them. Unless you’re a toddler, it’s really not that difficult a concept to grasp.

by Anonymousreply 227February 28, 2022 8:50 AM

Getting your dick out in public isn't a crime in England unless the intent is sexual. The law was specifically designed not to criminalise streaking, skinny dipping or nude sunbathing.

by Anonymousreply 228February 28, 2022 9:55 AM

If he saw the headline, he probably saw the word "strip" and automatically got naked and presented hole.

He's a dirty birdy.

Absolutely would, though.

by Anonymousreply 229February 28, 2022 10:12 AM

He's a part of bawdy Music Hall Humor history long in the UK. A current gay Benny Hill.

He will not only survive, he will thrive.

by Anonymousreply 230February 28, 2022 11:14 AM

[quote]Getting your dick out in public isn't a crime in England unless the intent is sexual. The law was specifically designed not to criminalise streaking, skinny dipping or nude sunbathing.

That's not true.

This is an accurate description of the law on indecent exposure

[quote]In the Sexual Offences Act 2003, indecent exposure is outlined as intentionally showing your genitals in a public place in order to cause alarm or distress. Indecent exposure is categorised as a crime of ‘specific intent’. This means that in cases where someone’s genitalia is exposed it must also be done with that intention. For example, the offence would not have been committed if someone were simply urinating in a public place and this had resulted in the “exposure” of genitalia unless that act itself was done to cause alarm or distress.

A lot of people - not just women - would have found Barrowman's antics distressing.

Seriously who wants to go to work and have someone's penis shoved in your face?

by Anonymousreply 231February 28, 2022 12:07 PM

[quote]Matthew Fox was exposing his penis to the entire cast of Lost every day for 6 years. Should he be arrested?

He should have been given a final warning yes, especially if someone complained.

But Barrowman went further than just exposing his penis to people - he also touched people with it.

by Anonymousreply 232February 28, 2022 12:08 PM

R231 Whether the action causes distress is irrelevant, the law is only concerned with the intent behind it.

When the government passed the Sexual Offences Act, they specifically stated their intent was to exclude ribald nudity, which would remain a generic public order offence if necessary (though almost never results in any action beyond than being told to put their clothes back on).

It's not entirely uncommon to see naked men in the UK in any town centre on any given Saturday night.

by Anonymousreply 233February 28, 2022 12:17 PM

Some of us here seem to be far too invested in excusing what JB did. We have got to realise that the bunker mentality of, "We're gay! It's okay when we do it!" has to come into contact with and deal with the general public's view that this behaviour is not substantively different if it's a gay man as opposed to a straight one. Whether that affects the question of right or wrong doesn't matter; the general perception is that what he did was wrong. The bathhouse and the workplace - even if it's a soundstage - have different mores. I'm all for loucheness when it's all-male company (especially all-gay) but you've got to realise that not everyone else agrees, i.e. women.

by Anonymousreply 234February 28, 2022 12:25 PM

[quote][R231] Whether the action causes distress is irrelevant, the law is only concerned with the intent behind it. When the government passed the Sexual Offences Act, they specifically stated their intent was to exclude ribald nudity, which would remain a generic public order offence if necessary (though almost never results in any action beyond than being told to put their clothes back on). It's not entirely uncommon to see naked men in the UK in any town centre on any given Saturday night.

Hypothetical situation. 3am on a Sunday morning in a city centre as the bars and clubs close. A couple of women sit on a bench waiting for their lift home. One of the women feels a tap on her shoulder - she turns around and there's man she was talking to earlier that night with his trousers down and he's hitting her on the shoulder with his penis.

She calls over the police and tells them the man has just toucher her with his penis. What do the police do?

by Anonymousreply 235February 28, 2022 12:25 PM

Has it really come to a pop quiz? 😆

by Anonymousreply 236February 28, 2022 12:29 PM

I would think the police would arrest him, R235.

by Anonymousreply 237February 28, 2022 12:33 PM

I would not mind going to work every day and getting to look at Matthew Fox's cock.

by Anonymousreply 238February 28, 2022 12:35 PM

He's an insufferable attention whore but he's right. These are adults. I really doubt some women's feelings were crushed and they have PTSD now because of a glimpse at Barrowman's cock, come on... He's a stage actor. Practical jokes etc. are the norm there, not an exception. . P. S.: he can flash me any time

by Anonymousreply 239February 28, 2022 12:50 PM

He didn't just flash, he pulled it out and laid it on their shoulders.

by Anonymousreply 240February 28, 2022 2:47 PM

I wonder if he shaves his balls?

by Anonymousreply 241February 28, 2022 3:33 PM

R240, Just how big is it?

by Anonymousreply 242February 28, 2022 4:48 PM

Freema Agema said years ago that both Barrowman and Tennant exposed themselves on the set of Doctor Who. She considered it offensive and unprofessional, but put it down to them being immature brats playing jokes rather than targeted sexual harassment. She also said that Barrowman and Tennant tended to play off each other's mischief and preferred working with them when they weren't both on the set at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 243February 28, 2022 6:30 PM

I love dicks, dicks are great. You shouldn't be walking around with your dick out at work.

And as far as him being "cancelled", the only person still bringing this up is him. And he's not exactly at the height of his career, now is he? 2008 is over.

by Anonymousreply 244February 28, 2022 6:32 PM

[quote]Freema Agema said years ago that both Barrowman and Tennant exposed themselves on the set of Doctor Who. She considered it offensive and unprofessional, but put it down to them being immature brats playing jokes rather than targeted sexual harassment. She also said that Barrowman and Tennant tended to play off each other's mischief and preferred working with them when they weren't both on the set at the same time.

That's the first I've heard of Tennant behaving like that. He did have a reputation for shagging a lot of the women who worked on the production, including Sophia Myles and then his eventual wife.

But yes, Freema Agyeman was open about him flashing at work 14 years ago, and it was treated as hilarious by the people reporting on it.

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by Anonymousreply 245February 28, 2022 6:38 PM

And he whipped it out during a BBC radio interview.

Notorious.

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by Anonymousreply 246February 28, 2022 6:39 PM

All of you who keep saying "He can do it to me anytime"--gee, do you think maybe you're missing the point here?

Not everyone is a gay man hungering 24/7 for celebrity dick.

Straight men hunger 24/7 for celebrity vagina, but you'd probably consider it nasty if you were at work and got a tap on your shoulder, turned around, and Ellen DeGeneres or some other female celebrity was shoving her exposed vagina in your face.

Try not always to filter everything that happens to everyone else in the universe through your own personal insatiable hunger for dick.

by Anonymousreply 247February 28, 2022 7:38 PM

[quote]He [Fox] should have been given a final warning yes, especially if someone complained.

But Barrowman was given a warning and his stopped. So your post is hypocritical.

by Anonymousreply 248February 28, 2022 7:44 PM

[quote]That's the first I've heard of Tennant behaving like that. He did have a reputation for shagging a lot of the women who worked on the production, including Sophia Myles and then his eventual wife.

Tennant and Barrowman used to have farting contests in front of Agyeman.

by Anonymousreply 249February 28, 2022 7:49 PM

I know the general consensus is that he was perfectly cast as Captain Jack Harkness in Doctor Who/Torchwood, but I never once bought him as an action star. I always wished they could have gotten Nathan Fillion as Captain Jack. The Jack/Ianto kissing scenes would have been so hot!

by Anonymousreply 250February 28, 2022 8:08 PM

That was like watching somebody molest the Pillsbury Doughboy

by Anonymousreply 251February 28, 2022 8:12 PM

[quote]But Barrowman was given a warning and his stopped. So your post is hypocritical.

When was Barrowman given a warning?

by Anonymousreply 252February 28, 2022 8:17 PM

[quote] Some of us here seem to be far too invested in excusing what JB did

And this thread has lots of people getting all hot and bothered over one small piece of flesh. (I haven't checked the Ignore-dar to see if there only 3 monomaniacs in this thread).

It's so easy to ignore unpleasantness. We have a good range of vision and it's very easy to simply avert one's eyes ( I have to do it almost every time I go into the city CBD)

by Anonymousreply 253February 28, 2022 9:12 PM

[quote] Some of us here seem to be far too invested in excusing what JB did

And this thread has lots of people getting all hot and bothered over one small piece of flesh. (I haven't checked the Ignore-dar to see if there only 3 monomaniacs in this thread).

It's so easy to ignore unpleasantness. We have a good range of vision and it's very easy to simply avert one's eyes ( I have to do it almost every time I go into the city CBD)

by Anonymousreply 254February 28, 2022 9:15 PM

^ Please turn a blind eye to that duplicate post

by Anonymousreply 255February 28, 2022 9:22 PM

[quote] Not sure if Americans know the word "nonce" but BonniePrinceCharlie is most definitely a nonce.

R211, I am not a sex offender.

And I stand by my statement. If he's flashed himself, it was boorish, loutish behavior.

He should not have done it.

Does it rise to the level of assault or harassment? Did he target one person in particular to cause embarrassment or ridicule to her/him? I don't believe so.

by Anonymousreply 256February 28, 2022 9:31 PM

Don't expose yourself to fraus. It gets them all traumatized and bitter.

Save that for the gents.

by Anonymousreply 257February 28, 2022 10:37 PM

While he's aging rather poorly, he was very hot during the period in question.

Just goes to show that the fraus ruin everything.

by Anonymousreply 258February 28, 2022 10:55 PM

A lot of you are not getting the concept that this guy was a coworker, people felt they had no choice but to put up with annoying or offensive behavior from a coworker, who in most cases had more influence at work than they did.

If a senior management person at your job insisted on showing their dick to you and you had absolutely no wish at all to fuck that person, wouldn’t you feel your career could be damaged if you ask for them to be stopped? Most of those people were probably making good money (for them) and they didn’t want to mess it up. Tolerating something so you can continue to pay the mortgage doesn’t mean you think it’s delightful. The whole reason behind sexual harassment laws is to stop this kind of behavior from egomaniacs who think they’re “funny,” but no one else does and everyone else is over it.

This is not the same thing as somebody flashing their dick in a bar. That person can’t get you fired. They can’t ruin you financially. They can’t make you lose your house. If you are in the entertainment industry and someone decides to blackball you, that can happen. The last thing you want is to be labeled a troublemaker for complaining.

by Anonymousreply 259February 28, 2022 11:48 PM

[quote]When was Barrowman given a warning?

In 2008 right after a complaint. He apologized and stopped.

People here are more upset about this than Camile Coudri...the person he "knighted".

by Anonymousreply 260March 1, 2022 12:09 AM

[quote] And I stand by my statement. If he's flashed himself, it was boorish, loutish behavior. He should not have done it. Does it rise to the level of assault or harassment? Did he target one person in particular to cause embarrassment or ridicule to her/him? I don't believe so.

Why are you continuing to ignore that he would touch and tap people with it? It wasn’t just mere “flashing”, he’d actually stand behind people and put his dick on them.

by Anonymousreply 261March 1, 2022 12:21 AM

I suppose if you've been sexually assaulted an errant penis would be traumatic. For the vast majority of us -it wouldn't be a big deal. You just need to read the room.

by Anonymousreply 262March 1, 2022 12:26 AM

R259 has it in a nutshell.

by Anonymousreply 263March 1, 2022 12:33 AM

R260, how do you know she wasn’t upset or mad? You don’t. She wanted to keep her job. What do you expect her to do, punch him in the face? She would never work again. Of course she acted like it wasn’t a big deal- because she wanted to keep her job.

Everyone in the industry knows everyone else. You can’t just burn bridges like that, even if you are in the right. That’s the whole point of all this. People are afraid to say anything. People shouldn’t have to be afraid to tell some narcissist to get their cock off of them. But there is a lot of money in the industry, it pays very well, and people don’t want to lose their jobs. So they pretend to go along. That doesn’t make it right.

It’s just another example of corporate heads letting people get bullied and not stopping it until there’s a scandal or somebody sues. Why is that so hard to understand?

by Anonymousreply 264March 1, 2022 12:45 AM

We now have 264 posts about this three inches of flaccid flesh.

by Anonymousreply 265March 1, 2022 12:49 AM

[quote]how do you know she wasn’t upset or mad?

It's been 14 years. It's post metoo. The people who did complain didn't suffer any repercussions.

From ever I know about filimg it was a pretty close group.

How do you know she was upset or mad? You don't. You're projecting.

by Anonymousreply 266March 1, 2022 12:52 AM

where are the pics? He "took it out" all the time and no evidence??

by Anonymousreply 267March 1, 2022 1:07 AM

R259, thank you. You're right. I was wrong. It's more than boorish behavior. And R261, I didn't ignore it. I did not read the account carefully enough.

My apologies. Again, I was wrong.

But I will ask this. So-called cancel culture is wrong in that there is no redemption. Should John Barrowman suffer a mortal blow to his career because of this behavior?

by Anonymousreply 268March 1, 2022 1:12 AM

R268, why are you backtracking. He put his penis on 1 person who, to this date, hasn't complained.

You've got a lot of people here making this into something bigger than it was. He didn't walk up to a stranger...he played a joke on someone he was quite familiar with.

by Anonymousreply 269March 1, 2022 1:19 AM

How is he cancelled? NO ONE is talking about this anymore except him. He's an aging former star.

by Anonymousreply 270March 1, 2022 1:24 AM

This thread would be quite different if it was about Guille Chóa who appears in all his glory at the link in post no. R8.

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by Anonymousreply 271March 1, 2022 1:32 AM

I too miss the good old days when I could whip my dick out at work.

by Anonymousreply 272March 1, 2022 1:37 AM

[quote] But I will ask this. So-called cancel culture is wrong in that there is no redemption. Should John Barrowman suffer a mortal blow to his career because of this behavior?

Mary! I love the super-dramatic way of posing the question.

No one has said there will be no possibility of redemption. HE is the one bringing this up again.

by Anonymousreply 273March 1, 2022 1:41 AM

I don't see the problem

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by Anonymousreply 274March 1, 2022 2:28 AM

poor creepy old white faggot

by Anonymousreply 275March 1, 2022 2:56 AM

[quote]A lot of you are not getting the concept that this guy was a coworker, people felt they had no choice but to put up with annoying or offensive behavior from a coworker, who in most cases had more influence at work than they did.

And you seem to be forgetting that when a reasonably hot guy wants to present dick, DLis 100% behind this choice.

Now, if he were to do it today, we might not be so forgiving. But, he was a pretty goodlooking guy back then.

by Anonymousreply 276March 1, 2022 3:12 AM

R272, Or when hitchhiking.

by Anonymousreply 277March 1, 2022 4:02 AM

[quote] And you seem to be forgetting that when a reasonably hot guy wants to present dick, DLis 100% behind this choice.

100%??

Obviously that's not true or this thread would be very different.

by Anonymousreply 278March 1, 2022 4:14 AM

r275 = Matt Damon

by Anonymousreply 279March 1, 2022 4:16 AM

[quote]Seriously who wants to go to work and have someone's penis shoved in your face?

It happens.

by Anonymousreply 280March 1, 2022 8:32 AM

Canada has some fighter jets up there too and what looks like a possible drone.

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by Anonymousreply 281March 1, 2022 12:22 PM

Canada fighter jet pilots expose their penises for laughs at work?

by Anonymousreply 282March 1, 2022 12:33 PM

Still no dick pic? Disappointed

by Anonymousreply 283March 1, 2022 12:36 PM

[quote] Canada fighter jet pilots expose their penises for laughs at work?

Foreskins aren't particularly hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 284March 1, 2022 11:04 PM

R284, Canadian men are a mix of cut and uncut.

But I'm assuming R281 meant to post the news about Canadian fighter pilots on the Ukraine thread.

by Anonymousreply 285March 2, 2022 12:32 PM

Phoebe Waller-Bridge once told a story on Graham Norton show about pranking a co-star in a theatre production by exposing her arsehole. IIRC, David Tennant was on that show as well and later said that Phoebe asked him in the green room if it was an appropriate story to tell, and he thought it was perfect and hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 286March 4, 2022 5:59 PM

David Tennant is a freak.

by Anonymousreply 287March 4, 2022 6:16 PM

10 is my freak.

by Anonymousreply 288March 4, 2022 7:17 PM

Colin Baker said on his first day on the Doctor Who set as The Doctor he bit Nicola Bryant on the bum. I'm sure it's also been said he mooned various people.

These sort of things are far more common among actors than your usual professions. Not saying that makes any of it right, but performing arts areas are not your usual work places.

by Anonymousreply 289March 5, 2022 10:24 AM

R286 Did she glance at the fourth wall and gurn?

by Anonymousreply 290March 3, 2023 7:05 AM

"He's such an attention whore, I do believe him that he wasn't doing it to harass anyone. "

Yeah, apparently gay dicks are magically different.

Although in my experience: not really.

Same old dick.

by Anonymousreply 291March 3, 2023 8:01 AM

My dick is too small to harass my coworkers. I present hole to get attention but even that doesn't work.

by Anonymousreply 292March 3, 2023 8:38 AM

Oh, grow up!

You're grown women, you know what a dick looks like. These guys are pulling them out as pranks, not asking you to fuck them!

How horrifying and traumatic for you it must have been to look at a dick!

by Anonymousreply 293March 3, 2023 9:20 AM

Yeah, I want some frau to lift her skirt and sit on my face, just as a prank. I pray to God it will happen.

by Anonymousreply 294March 3, 2023 9:28 AM

We're right back where we were in the puritanical '50s and before. The body is shameful! Hide it away from delicate female eyes!

The penis is just a body part. Unless someone is asking you to do something with it or you'll lose your job, it's not a MeToo situation.

by Anonymousreply 295March 3, 2023 9:28 AM

Barrowman is a major pussy hound.

I do t know what all the fuss is about.

by Anonymousreply 296March 3, 2023 9:30 AM

My mangina is my calling card. It is me. I am it. We are one.

by Anonymousreply 297March 3, 2023 9:35 AM

As has been said up thread, Barrowman is insufferable on set, unprofessional and a sex pest.

I have no sympathy for him.

by Anonymousreply 298March 3, 2023 9:40 AM

“Imagine if it were somebody flashing their vagina at work.”

Yeah, what of it?

by Anonymousreply 299March 3, 2023 9:46 AM

R293 is David Boreanaz

by Anonymousreply 300March 4, 2023 10:12 AM

[quote]People even got nicknames based strictly on their genitalia.

What was yours r45?

by Anonymousreply 301March 4, 2023 10:18 AM

[quote]There's really nothing complicated here. Expose yourself on the job and there are consequences.

On a normal job. Actors are paid to be naked at work. Barrowman had nude scenes on his show so cast and crew had already seen everything.

by Anonymousreply 302March 4, 2023 10:45 AM

He sounds like a dick.

by Anonymousreply 303March 4, 2023 11:16 AM
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