Good-looking people that aged the worst?

What a horrid idea for a thread.

You look at Jane Fonda, Rita Moreno or Susan Sarandon, Helen Mirren, and all of them have had work done but it has been minimal and they allowed themselves to age. I think they're the best examples of healthy aging. Sensible. You look at Barbra Streisand and Jesus Christ she looks like a cat lady.

How about intelligent people who know the difference between "who" and "that.."

Bette Davis

Brendan Fraser

Nick Nolte

Jan-Michael Vincent

Jon Voight

Lucille Ball

This guy. Compare age 30 to now...

Now...

Live long enough, and without surgical help, and everyone looks....old. Add sunlight, and fuhgeddaboutit!

Bardot, Delon, the most beautiful in their youth. Today, life has caught up to them.

Uh, Jane Fonda is approaching Jocelyn Wildenstein territory these days. Nothin natural about it

Prince William is a casebook example on how having good hair to frame your face can make a world of difference.

Kenny Rogers and Wayne Newton aged even worse than their music.

R15- When Wayne Newton was young he was not good looking he just looked like a PLUMP LESBIAN.

Meg Ryan.

Wayne had some good hair days.

The Rolling Stones

R19 From 1964 to 1969 Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones went from hot to looking like total shit. What a difference 5 years of decline into drugs and alcohol will do. He was kicked out of the group he co-founded and passed out from drugs into a swimming pool and joined the 27-Club.

Ötzi the Iceman.

But then he's had more time to age than most people.

Present company excepted.

Most British men age like milk. Cary Elwes looks better noe that he’s lost weight though.

Marlon Brando

Anita Ekberg

[quote]You look at Barbra Streisand and Jesus Christ she looks like a cat lady.

[quote]Meg Ryan.

[quote]Jane Fonda is approaching Jocelyn Wildenstein territory these days

Extreme cosmetic surgery looks bad but it isn't the same as aging badly. R6 & R10 named two good examples: Prince William and Nick Nolte.

Tony Curtis

Dave Clark from the Dave Clark Five. Looks like a bad drag queen now

[quote]When Wayne Newton was young he was not good looking he just looked like a PLUMP LESBIAN.

So true. I had a friend who did male impersonation and looked just like Wayne when she got in drag.

There should be an end age for this question. Like 60 years old. Or even 50. It's silly to say someone has aged badly when they're 75. Not many people look great at 75.

Britney Spears

Christina Aguilera

Madonna

Mickey Rourke

Jakob Dylan went from pouting pretty boy to shriveling raisin in record time.

Michelle Philips

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Patti Smith

Bridget Fonda

Edward Furlong

Cary Elwes.

After these comparison pictures went viral a few years ago, he lost weight and got some work done. But it's still been a long, hard fall.

R10, your linked pic of Prince William is of him well before he turned 30. At 30, he had already married & had long lost his adolescent good looks.

Heather Locklear

Laura Flynn Boil that needs to be lanced.

R39, as a blonde & a drinker, Heather had two big strikes against her.

Lucille Ball

William Holden and Gig Young we’re both adorable pretty boys at the beginning of their careers and ruined their looks and lives with hard boozing and smoking.

^ Ty Power didn't age well, either. He looked 55 when he was 45. The booze also hit Errol Flynn hard. Olivia de Havilland said she saw him at some event and didn't even recognize him

"Olivia de Havilland said she saw him at some event and didn't even recognize him "

The Gates of Hell?

James Spader owns this thread.

I saw a good one in the Maul today -- Orlando Bloom has hit every available wall.

Bette Davis couldn't stand Errol Flynn but said he was the most beautiful man she'd ever seen (when he was young).

Yeah, James Spader is probably the winner.

He should be jailed for aesthetic crimes against humanity for letting this go.

Spader today.

It's a crime.

Van Damme

James Spader was surprisingly hot in Supernova, a terrible film.

John James 😥😥😥

Matthew Perry and Matt Le Blanc

Marie Dressler.

That's not Michelle Philips in this photo. That's Mama Cass, but the chick sitting near Denny Doherty sure isn't Michelle.

In the current photos, Michelle looks much older than 76. I guess all the years of drugs and alcohol do catch up with most people.

However, Ringo looks amazing at 81 and Jagger doesn't look too bad at 78. Whoever thought Ringo would end up being the best looking Beatle!

R52, James spader looks a lot like Mackenzie Astin in your pic

I'm fine...

Thammy Miranda

Elvis, perhaps the most extreme example. Drugs obligated his appearance.

brigitte bardot owns this thread

James Taylor

Oh Dear, I meant obliterated.

Gordon Lightfoot

Leif Garrett

Val Bertinelli

Brando. End of thread!

Saw Gordon Lightfoot at the Hollywood Bowl a few years ago. He did look rough but still sounded great.

Liz Taylor

Johnny Depp

Mel Gibson owns this thread.

Axl Rose

Mel Gibson got the face he deserved

R51 - Spader could have played Dick Cheney without all that showy method actor weight gain & make-up.

Val Kilmer

Moses.

Honey, that beard?!

VaL Kilmer

Bridget Fonda

I think fairly obscure actress Marta Kober has to be near the top. The first pic is her in late teens and the second is her at age 50. She allegedly has had a major drug problem for decades now.

Bruce Jenner

Not the worst but Derek Jeter was gorgeous in the 90s/early2000s and now looks like an average 50 year old dad. He was more pretty boy than rugged, doesn't age as well.

Joe Namath turned into Joe Paterno

I agree that anyone older than 65 or so shouldn't be named here. Some who has admitted to getting tons of work done like Jane Fonda didn't "age well," in fact she didn't age at all mentally. That woman has never grown out of her childhood insecurities and self esteem issues. It's sad, not fabulous.

Also, Michelle Phillips looks like a typical grandma. My grandma looked worse when she was 77, and she wasn't a drinker or heavy smoker. Have you queens never met an old woman?

Michelle Phillips got tons of dick. She should be a DL icon! I loved watching Jakob Dylan try not to look appalled when she talked about her free lovin' in his boring Canyon film.

The fact Michelle came out of that batshit Laurel Canyon scene relatively unscathed is remarkable.

Paul Mercurio, once

Today he is hideous

Ricky Schroder

Shelley Long and McDonna own this thread.

At least Shelley let time take on. Madonna still thinks it is 1990.

Ricky Gervais

Lee Montgomery

Joan Collins

Mel Gibson used to be beautiful

Jon Bon Jovi - that gray hair looks like shit.

[quote] Shelley Long and McDonna own this thread.

I can get behind McDonna being DL's next Brendad Ickson or Lens Dunham.

Robert Redford.

I never was one who thought James Spader was especially good-looking.

Spader had nice hair, when he lost that he lost his looks.

@r76, "Moses.

Honey, that beard?!"

But, waspy Jews are hawt...

[quote] Robert Redford.

I was thinking Robert Redford as well, but he is super old and most of the offense is a bad wig, which could easily be changed.

Jimmy Page!

Yiiikes!

R87, that isn't "hideous". That's just older and balder. At the very least he doesn't deserve to be on 'the worst' list.

I thought Michelle Phillips was Angela Lansbury at R33's link.

Lead singer of Color Me Badd

Heather Locklear.

Get your prescription checked R105.

@r101, Jimmy Page has turned into Yoda...

R100 it’s not just that it’s his skin and his sagging square jawline. The last movie he looked good in was The Natural and that was a hell of a long time ago.

Michael Rourke

Michael Jackson

Richard Grieco

@r109, "Michael Rourke "

I can't believe I had the hots for this guy at one time, lasted about 9 & 1/2 Weeks

Jimmy Page was almost pretty. He had fine delicate features.

Not sure how his nose got bigger. Someone at some music forum mentioned a nose job due to all his years of cocaine use.

In this photo, Jimmy looks like Paul McCartney during the Get Back era. Here he's with the mother of his eldest daughter Scarlet, the model Charlotte Martin. Scarlet is now around 50!

George Michael

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Re Richard Grieco, WTF is with people with perfectly nice noses getting them whittled down to nothing? I call those small noses, skeleton noses.

That small nose doesn't go with the rest of Richard's features. How do those terrible California plastic surgeons stay in business??

How do some many celebrities always wind up picking the worst plastic surgeons?

IMO, Jimmy Page looks fine for his age. Looks as expected. Better than jet black hair and plastic surgery. He does have a way younger wife, though.

Benicio del Toro. What happened?

Wow, I forgot Heather Locklear was married to Tommy Lee.

Why is her face so swollen in those current photos? Fillers?

Shelly Duvall

[quote]IMO, Jimmy Page looks fine for his age. Looks as expected. Better than jet black hair and plastic surgery. He does have a way younger wife, though.

Jimmy is not married , his GF's name is Scarlett Sabet, she's an actress and a poet. Scarlett was briefly on Eastenders.

Jimmy has some nice looking children. Here's two of his kids, James Jr to the left and Sofia to Jimmy's left. His GF Scarlett is the woman with the long red hair, yes, she has the same name as his eldest daughter, with an extra 't'.

Dunno what work Locklear had done, but she acted like a rock groupie for many years and that hard living didn't help her looks any.

OP, we've done this topic a million times. Everyone knows the correct answer is Mel Gibson. He went from this........

to this.

Gibson is only 5'10" which really makes him 5'8". I find it hilarious that all the little actors play tough guys on the screen.

Spader looks like the stereotype of a DL eldergay poster today, minus caftan. It's an abomination!

R120, Shelley Duvall was never a “good looking person.”

Benicio del Toro was never hot, R118, even though he gave an amazing performance in "Traffic".

No, R127, Shelley Duvall was never hot but she could have aged better than this.

Mischa Barton - by the time she was about 25. And she was beautiful.

Seeing the celebrities who've aged the worst has made me neurotic about my neck.

I'm going to get that taken care of first, before even thinking about any eye work or brow lift.

Avoid the neck wattle, try to maintain a good jawline, and you've de-aged yourself a decade.

Isn't the neck the big giveaway in cosmetic surgery. There's little that can be done about neck wattle

[quote] Not sure how his nose got bigger.

I've heard that nose and ears keep growing when you age.

^ True, even the jawline changes, that's why so many elders look so much different than when they were young

Why can't our dicks keep growing? :(

Jimmy Page, half of the original Zucchini Brothers, doesn"t look too too bad in that second pic. Being amidst younger persons helps.

[quote] Being amidst younger persons helps.

Huh?! I thought the cardinal rule was never to allow yourself to be photographed with younger people.

Not the worst, but I’ve felt bad for KC (Harry Wayne Casey) of KC and the Sunshine Band who looked like this at the height of his popularity:

Nowadays

Seeing Richard Dean Anderson in public a couple of years ago was surprising.

His MacGyver days

Richard Dean Anderson would be a silver daddy if he got in shape....

R105... damn, heather locklear looks like that UBER C*NT marjorie taylor greene!...

R56- Michelle Philips was a PARTY animal. She took lots of drugs and drank lots of booze. It aged her horribly, at least when the bloom was on her rose she had a LOT of quality Rock N Roll COCK.

Martha Stewart is three years older than MP and she looks so much better. Michelle Philips looked so frail in a video on YouTube that was posted by her daughter. She literally ( don't troll me for this word dl people) has become a LITTLE OLD LADY.

Martha Stewart at 80 years old is not frail and does not look nor act like a little old lady. She's taken much better care of herself over the years.

Here is the video I was referring to.

She's got OLD LADY hands too.

Redford owns this

Judy Garland

ALL of the woman from Knots Landing- ESPECIALLY Joan Van Ark.

This is off topic but Don Murray was such a good looking DADDY back in 1979.

My dark horse nomination: Anthony Edwards, who went from looking like this in Mr. North:

To looking like this today:

genetics, exercise, staying out of the sun, great diet, no stress, sleep and "touch ups"here and there do wonders...

I do wonder if someday most likely NOT in our lifetimes if scientists and whoever will create ways where a 80 year can actually look in the face and have the body of a 50 year old? OR younger?!! If aging can literally be stopped or slowed down incredibly.

R150- A bit of sun is important for Vitamin D. You should mention not smoking, drinking or taking drugs plus eating mostly plant foods and staying away from processed food- lots of produce , beans ,nuts , seeds

Stress is such an important factor. Don’t have kids if you want to age well.

R151... stupid me, sorry, all good points by you!... I myself do stay out of the sun, when i do i always put sunblock on, but i supplement my diet with Vitamin D, along with the vitamin d already in my multi-vitamin, so I guess i'm good?...

I hate to say this because I love her but Carey Lowell (played Jamie Ross on Law and Order) fits the bill.

I was watching the reboot yesterday on Peacock and it was jarring -- looks like some bad work was done on her face?

So....its EVERYBODY !!!!!!! oh the horror of ageing.

[quote]You should mention not smoking, drinking or taking drugs plus eating mostly plant foods and staying away from processed food- lots of produce , beans ,nuts , seeds

Yes, but this lifestyle will cause you to die of BOREDOM.

Prince William definitely.

That unfortunate actress who played an ADA on the Law & Order reboot.

That is some bad biology or actionable plastics...

R158 are you talking about Carey Lowell, or the brand new ADA?

Lara Flynn Boyle owns this thread.

^ OMG.

I wonder what plastic surgery causes people to have a horizontal line on each side of the mouth, eg. Joan van Ark at R146.

^^^ eg. Kim Novak

R163- YIKES

Robert Redford, Jack LaLanne.

r150, Lowell. So sad.

The new ADA looks like Annie Parisse.

There was some PBS program from years ago currently on youtube that examined people living into their 90s. They found 2 to 3 glasses of wine a day contributes to a long life. Now why you would want to live into your 90s I have no idea... or 80s, 70s, 60s...

Up until recently QEII would knock back a few daily, same with her mum

Can we get a pic of Carey Lowell?

She was beautiful. I hope this wasn't by choice.

James Spader could lose weight, but he'd still be balding. However, he could do transplants.

Heather Locklear could lose weight as well. I think her face bloat is more than just gaining weight. Maybe steroids. HL has got more problems than losing weight, though.

It's surprising that any of the Hollywood stars are not overweight in middle age. They had access to cocaine, diet pills, trainers, personal chefs, etc. More than what us normal people have access to. Once all of the cocaine, etc., tapers off ... comfort eating.

She looks like what she is....a 60-year-old woman

Heather looks good to me. She’s not twenty five anymore, folks!

R172, I'm a 63-year-old lesbian and I look much younger than she does. That's a hard-looking 60!!

OTOH, I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs, and I walk two miles every morning. And I never had kids. So there's that.

That's what I meant by bringing up the weight gains. If some of these "terribly-aging" stars "just" took off a few pounds (eg, Locklear), they'd probably look really good. The problem is that it's not so easy when you're not in your 20s and 30s anymore.

You're wrong, R175. When you lost weight like that, you also lose fat in your face, which makes it hang and get more wrinkles.

Didn't you ever hear the expression, "When you get old, you're going to have to choose between your ass or your face"?

Being poor is another stress factor leading to bad aging.

R174, I'm sure you look 23, like all dataloungers!

Gil Gerard put on a lot of weight after Buck Rogers. This clip is old. He’s kept the weight off which is great. He’s pretty unrecognizable though today.

Kirstie Alley

More current

Heartthrob years

[quote] You're wrong, [R175]. When you lost weight like that, you also lose fat in your face, which makes it hang and get more wrinkles.

IMO, people just need to get used to seeing older faces that have lost fat. There's beauty in that. Otherwise, we'll have everybody looking like Madonna.

Bette retained a fresh, dewy youthfulness even into her forties.

"—Mrs. Alfred Steele, movie star and busy, busy businesswoman"

Don't forget, loving mother and devoted wife

And hag...

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R44, I'll bet Tyrone looked terrible at age 45, given that he died at age 44!

Some of these good-looking people were actually mostly sexy. When I look at old photos of Mickey Rourke, I wonder why I thought he was so good-looking, even back when he was young. Sexy, yes.

Paul McCartney aka MACCA

I remember when Sonny stole all of Chers' money and she went to do print ads for a gym. Ballys'?

Anyway she was dumped for Heather Locklear. And she was pissed.

Who's laughing now? Cher wins again.

R56, It is Jill Gibson.

Paul McCartney ca. 1964

R190, Paul is about to turn 80. What, really, do you expect an 80-year-old face to look like?

Paul McCartney looks pretty damn good for his age, and even for someone in their 70s.

R194- Martha Stewart IS 80. She doesn't look 40 or 50 but she's aging well compared to MACCA.

R96 Jack LaLanne lived to age 96 and was still doing push-ups the day before he died.

I own this thread ((((Wahhhhh)))))

R188 Tyrone Power at age 22

R188 Tyrone Power at age 44

Hard drinking and chain smoking can really fuck you up.

^ Man, that's some hard shit right there, 44?

He seems more like age 60. I'm 62 and I look better than that.

Some Helen Keller at R2 starts off the thread with Jane Fonda's "minimal work".

MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R160- What's shocking here is that she's morphed into WHITE TRASH.

Sharon Stone and Meryl Streep are examples of people who aged well, and look appropriate for their age even if they had work. Not Jane Fonda who looks totally plastic.

Mel Gibson is gross but he's a decent enough looking old man.

Russel Crowe.

David Hemmings did not keep his youthful good looks from Blow-Up, and that’s putting it mildly. I stifled a scream when I recognised him in Gladiator.

R200 are you sure that's 44 because that seems especially rough

Wow R200 he died at the age of 44. Damn.

R142, Michelle had more than rock and roll cock. She had Jack Nicholson, Warren Beatty, Dennis Hopper, Roman Polanski, etc.

Ryan O'Neal

Ted Kennedy

I've photos of myself when I was young. I've changed a little bit but no double chin anymore. Cut way back on added sugars

And ow that I'm closer to 60 I've not colored the gray. No real point in doing it anymore.

R214 Smart move to not color the gray. I always think dyed hair looks looks so bad on men over 50ish. Gray hair looks much better!

R211- I was going to add that she had plenty of Show Biz cock as well.

[quote][R142], Michelle had more than rock and roll cock. She had Jack Nicholson, Warren Beatty, Dennis Hopper, Roman Polanski, etc.

Never understood why the general public assumes simply because someone is famous they are better at sex than the rest of us mere mortals. 'Famous cock' doesn't necessarily translate that any of these men were great lovers or even had beautiful cocks.

As Ricky Ricardo would say, "Please 'splain!"

Kathleen Turner.

"She had Jack Nicholson, Warren Beatty, Dennis Hopper, Roman Polanski"

Ha! Didn't we all?

R219- If I had the pick of those men to hop in the sack with back in say 1968 I would choose Dennis Hopper over Warren Beatty- that pretty boy would just have laid there expecting me to do ALL the work.

[quote]Jimmy Page, half of the original Zucchini Brothers, doesn"t look too too bad in that second pic. Being amidst younger persons helps.

That photo with a few of his children is over 3 years old. Page doesn’t look too good these days. With a tan he looks a bit healthier.

Page looked terrible at the 'Stairway to Heaven trial'. The remaining members of the California rock band Spirit and the late Randy California’s family sued Page for ripping off the beginning of their song "Taurus" for the intro to “Stairway to Heaven". Anyone with functioning ears can hear it's the same music, yet Page won the case. Amazing.

Page was probably stressed during that trial, nervous that he’d have to pay Randy's family some big bucks, but, once again, Page got away with ripping off another musician. IIRC, Page did end up paying NYC folkie Jake Holmes (who later went on to write for Streisand) for totally ripping off, "Dazed and Confused”.

While on tour with The Yardbirds, before he formed Zep, Page saw Jake perform his song "Dazed and Confused" in NYC. Once again, it proved this was not an original Zeppelin song. Jake's LP which contained the song was released before the first Zeppelin LP.

The more I hear about Page's legacy of ripping off other musicians, the more Page seems like Drumpf. Page gets away with so much, I won’t even get into the 14 year old Lori Maddox groupie situation.

The fact that Page is so dependent on ‘reworking’ others music is likely the reason why he’s never been able to get past his Zep legacy. Page might be a brilliant guitarist, however, it appears, he cannot come up with any original music. Before The Yardbirds and Zeppelin, Page honed his skills as a session musician. As part of two famous bands, Page's entire musical history has basically been about stealing and ‘re-working’ others music, from Black American bluesman, to NYC folkies to traditional British folk music.

Page blatantly ripped off the late Pentangle folk guitarist Bert Jansch’s re-working of a traditional British folk song, “Black Waterside”, Page called it “White Summer” and “Black Mountainside”. It was easily proven, Jansch’s version was out years before Page recorded this song.

Robert Plant has moved on, in his diverse solo work and with Allison Krauss. John Paul Jones is extremely talented, before Zep he was an in-demand session musician, JPJ isn’t scared of working with new and younger musicians. JPJ has worked with everyone from Diamanda Galas to Dave Grohl and Josh Homme.

Page is stagnating. Every ‘new’ release he works on is nothing more than a Led Zeppelin re-thread, these 'new' releases are basically Led Zeppelin songs remastered with some some ‘rarities’ and older live tracks added to get fans to purchase these expensive boxed sets.

Page's rabid fans don’t seem to care. Years ago, he spoke at Oxford, even his newer young fans were going nuts. In his fans eyes, he can do no wrong.

Page at the Stairway to Heaven/Taurus trial. We all get the face we deserve.

Sterling Hayden. From this:

.... to this, interviewed on his houseboat in his late 60s, fucked up on hash and booze and barely able to string together a sentence.

[quote]Being poor is another stress factor leading to bad aging.

Yes and no. Have you noticed all the celebrities and other wealthy people who have recently died of cancer? It doesn't matter how much money some people have, cancer is the great equalizer.

Benjamin Button

Not only cancer, but Alzheimers and dementia.

Having a lot of money sure cannot stop, or even help, so many devastating illnesses.

[quote]Have you noticed all the celebrities and other wealthy people who have recently died of cancer?

You're quite the health researcher and statistician, aren't you?

I like Kathryn Erbe a lot. I wouldn't say she was beautiful but she was pretty when she was younger. Unfortunately she hasn't aged well at all and she's not even 60 yet.

I think it just comes down to genes in a lot of cases.

Umm Paul McCartney had a serious facelift right after he was rid of that cunt Heather Mills iirc. So he *should* look pretty good for 80.

Being rich obviously doesn't preclude one from getting sick, but being poor is an almost sure predictor for bad aging.

Bing Crosby's widow, Kathryn, then.

And now.

Tyrone Power’s father died of a heart attack in his forties too, didn’t he?

A lot of these "before" / young photos are Hollywood studio /PR photos. They had photoshop back then, too.

I don't know, R206. To me, Gibson looks pretty frightening in your photo.

[quote]You're quite the health researcher and statistician, aren't you?

R227, this isn't a scientific sample but in this list, there are quite a few actors and actresses who died relatively young of cancer.

I'm sorry, but Jan-Michael Vincent beats every single one of the entries posted thus far.

[quote]You're quite the health researcher and statistician, aren't you?

You know I'm right, just keep arguing.

With certain types of cancer, all the money in the world won't help. A rich person's money might give them more times, but not much.

Over the last year I just lost two friends, both with great careers, lots of money and still fairly young, both had rare fatal forms of cancer.

Please, STFU.

[quote]Being rich obviously doesn't preclude one from getting sick, but being poor is an almost sure predictor for bad aging.

Factor in where a poor person lives. For example, NY state has very generous Medicaid programs.

One of my mom's elderly friends is on full Medicaid, this woman has better health insurance than my mother! Medicaid also covers this woman's monthly Medicare premium. This woman also gets a $150 OTC health-related product card, which refills automatically every month.

btw, this woman isn't exactly poor, she was simply smart enough to move her assets into a trust. Just in case she needs to go into nursing home full time, she's all set up. Secondary health insurance and Medicare only covers 100 days at a nursing home, after that, Good Luck.

Medicaid covers long term nursing home stays as well as long term at home care which includes home aides and any supplies a person might need. It's amazing how so many Americans are not prepared for their old age and the inevitable ridiculously expensive health care bills.

I initially raised being poor in this context to point out that being poor in & of itself - along with having children - was a stress factor that informed the aging process. In that limited context, that seems inarguable.

Most people who remain fit age well. But aging is inevitable if you are lucky enough to survive and takes its toll on physical beauty. Fact of life that seems to elude DL. So strange.

Anyone British.

Kim Novak's plastic surgery was truly frightening. And then having the nerve to complain about "bullies," uh, you chose to have that done to yourself. It's not like she had reconstructive surgery after being in a house fire. She looked monstrous.

"They had photoshop back then, too."

No, they did not.

They didn't even have computers, let alone computer programs.

Photos could be retouched, but it was done by hand.

Not by a computer.

And without photoshop, the picture itself had to be carefully composed with lighting, etc.

R244- They did have computers in the 1950's but those early computers did not have the ability to alter photographs.

R244 even better than photoshop - the lighting erased literally every single flaw. The way people were lit and styled then - you could have a huge honker, terrible skin, bags , etc and that light would act like an eraser to the face.

You have to have photoshop now because those digital cameras are so unforgiving and literally pick up every single pore.

OMG R243, I hope she sues whoever did that work on her. That looks like she went to a free clinic and they let a medical student practice on her. There's no way a legit plastic surgeon did that savage work.

Kim thinks she looks fabulous, R247.

Justine Bateman

Redford at 65 years old at the link

R56, that "chick" is Jill Gibson, who replaced Michelle after she was fired for fucking Gene Clark from The Byrds.

You're telling me that people look differently after 60 years? Quick, my smelling salts.

Kim wouldn't have agreed to be a presenter at the Oscars if she thought she looked horrible, R247.

Can this actually be Kevin Sorbo? If so, we have a winner.

R254, he got the face he deserved.

It's a joke.

Sorbo already had notable skin creases and wrinkles back when he was playing Hercules. He simply got progressively worse.

Judy Garland looked 60 when she was 40

R78- Why are posting a photo of someone no one has ever heard of?

Redford looks good at R250, IMO. I'm starting to suspect that he's really a ginger who dyed his hair blonde all his adult life. A ginger who went out in the sun constantly. Then, started wearing bad wigs.

Redford wears horrible toupees. They look like dead cats on top of his head.

Kevin Sorbo needs major plastic surgery and a hair transplant or a very good toupee. Then again, he probably isn't getting any acting gigs, so why bother.

R260- Robert Redford started wearing RATTY KOREAN WIGS.

Kevin Sorbo needs a brain transplant more than anything

Rupert Everett

[quote]Judy Garland looked 60 when she was 40

And she looked 82 when she died at 47.

That's true, R264. Sorbo thinks of himself as a covid expert. He could go toe-to-toe with all the top covid scientists in the world and prove them wrong 😆.

Sorbo and Chachi need to do flip-fuck porn together

Queen Elizabeth I

Yes, but was QE I ever good looking?

I think the Queen looks okay for her (ancient) age

We're talking about Queen Elizabeth I, R271 --- you know, red hair, white face powder full of lead, liked to show off her boobs.

^ I don't see any boils or a goiter, so yeah, she was probably a babe back in the day

Lol, R273.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was a flattering portrait. She was probably homelier in real life.

Val Kilmer is in the running.

[quote] Rupert Everett

And what's worse is that he intentionally did it to himself. He had a facelift like 15 years ago that made him look totally different and 15 years older.

Simon Cowell also had some plastic surgery that made him look really weird

@R20

Jesus Christ, that pic of Brian Jones makes him look like Glenda Jackson! Was that supposed to be "Hot Brian" or "Uggo Brian"?

@R129 - Duvall has a long history of both physical and mental illness, which she speaks openly about. That's like listing Val Kilmer.

That's true, R279. And I assume she's flat broke from the way she looks. Maybe if she was well off, she'd have an assistant who made sure she took her meds (I assume her mental illness would respond to medication).

I wasn't even aware that Kilmer had problems with mental illness. Thanks for the info. I loved his performance in "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang".

One of Shelley Duval's more flattering pics.

R272, Are we sure that's not Beverly Sills?

When I was very young, I thought being the Queen meant that Elizabeth was supposed to be the most beautiful woman in the world. Even at a tender age, I couldn’t wrap my head around that.

Robert Redford is a redhead. He has redheaded skin and a ton of freckles.

Lol. I get it R282. I'd heard of Beverly Sills but wasn't very familiar with her career. I have to say the painting is more attractive than this cover photo.

Liz Taylor rules this thread. No, really.

[quote] Robert Redford is a redhead. He has redheaded skin and a ton of freckles.

Some of his wigs are reddish. Even his name: Red ... ford.

I do think his natural color hair is red, not blonde.

Shelley Duvall spent decades in Hollywood. Is it any wonder she’s bonkers?

Back to the subject, she kept her looks for a long time. She was striking even if far from conventionally beautiful.

This late in the day, he and Fonda should ditch their wigs and go bare-headed in the park.

R286, Though often labeled the most beautiful woman in the world throughout her life and career, Elizabeth Taylor had definite imperfections.

She had short stumpy legs, a double chin, breasts too large for her size, etc.

What made her beautiful were her violet eyes, double set of natural lashes and a perfectly oval face.

R290, she had a lot more beautiful features than that. She also had perfect eyebrows, perfect skin, a perfect nose, a perfect mouth (both lips and teeth), a tiny waist, etc. The most important thing when it comes to looks is the face without question. As long as the body is decent which hers was in her day, the face is pretty much everything when it comes to looks and no one else's face will ever compare to hers.

As a proud fan, I can say Belinda Carlisle used to look like this =

Is there an opposite phenomena, where people who aren't conventionally good-looking when they're young age well? Thoughts?

Wasn't young Patrick Dempsey considered nerdy and then became a heartthrob on Grey's Anatomy?

Brian Austin Green wasn't that hot on 90210 but somehow became much more handsome and sexy as he aged.

The photo of older Kevin Sorbo is fake, R254.

This is what he looks like now.

Ahem

R2 Babs looks like a muppett now.

Julianne Moore (going back to the Redford comments) is also a fair skinned redhead and aged beautifully - so it can be done.

There are a few men who age nicely with salt & pepper hair with character lines, but they weren't bad looking young. Hard to find anyone who actually improved with age

Marlon Brando owns this thread.

R291, Her eyebrows were obviously enhanced, her upper lip line was overdrawn with lipstick and she had teeth replaced over time.

Former matinee idol Ray Milland.

R289- Back in 1967 Robert Redford should have gone BARE ASSED In The Park

R302... Taylor also had in my opinion kind of a "pig nose"....

Goldie Hawn seemingly doesn't care a ounce about aging, total free spirit I guess...

Kevin Sorbo? Even in his prime on Hercules, I thought "He doesn't even look like hercules! You know the usual dark hair, beard, etc and secondly, In all of Hollywood they couldn't find a more experienced actor, whose better looking, better built actor for hercules? really? REALLY?..

[quote] Goldie Hawn seemingly doesn't care a ounce about aging, total free spirit I guess...

Ha.

The Kennedy women were all attractive in their prime but aged horribly once they hit middle-age.

[quote] As long as the body is decent which hers [Liz Taylor] was in her day, the face is pretty much everything when it comes to looks and no one else's face will ever compare to hers.

Disagree with this. Angelina Jolie, IMO, has a beautiful face. Her body is kind of a mystery b/c she's always underweight. IMO, she looks kind of terrible, sometimes, because of her body.

R297, just me, but I don’t think that Goldie was ever really pretty. Odd face with smushed up features. Great dancer’s body, though.

R20, he was murdered. He was acting all bravado and hitting on the girlfriend of a party guest. He went into his pool and Tom Keylock held his head under water until no more bubbles came up.

R310, That's one way to do it.

LOL, r290, most straight guys would not see "breasts too large" as a flaw

R303, Milland had some awful toupees

Kevin Sorbo turned into James Woods

R312, How would you know?

Um, I've actually met straight guys. That's how I know.

[quote]Is there an opposite phenomena, where people who aren't conventionally good-looking when they're young age well? Thoughts?

Yes, of course, some fashion models were ugly children.

R312, is a troll. They've been blocked forever.

Ignore.

R318 is a troll

Example of someone who wasn't hot but aged relatively well: Dustin Hoffman

Since the #MeToo allegations, Dustin Hoffman has seemingly disappeared.

Marjorie Main

^ She was head of the Hollywood "Sewing Circle"

Robert Walker Jr.

R305, what made Elizabeth Taylor's nose look piggish? Just wondering.

R294 -- Patrick Dempsey realized at a young age that if he was ever going to transition to leading male roles he had to redo his face. He spent a fortune creating a new jawline for himself and frankly, his surgeon did an excellent job, turning him from a nerd into a (debatably) semi-hunk.

Forgot link

Dempsey definitely had a nose job. But it looks crooked (post-surgery).

Hideous young Brian Austin Green

R326, But he still has a small dick.

[quote] Back in 1967 Robert Redford should have gone BARE ASSED In The Park

Oh honey, he did. He did. And it was glorious.

Handsome, sexy Brian Austin Green and some dame. Maybe I'm naive and he's had work done too.

R329- Not hideous just uninteresting looking

You're such a DRAMA queen.

I was just exaggerating, trying to be funny, R333.

That's not the best pic of him at R332 but I remember seeing him on talk shows about 10 or 15 years ago and thinking "Wow, that guy is HOT".

R332, Didn't Tori Spelling say he took her virginity?

Dr. Julia Hoffman...

she was such a bright young girl

when she arrived in Collinsport with her bag full of tranquillizers and sedatives

Jason Bateman

Oh, I didn't know that, R335. To be honest, I wasn't really into Beverly Hills 90210. I would watch it once in a while but I was familiar with the cast, of course.

I do enjoy the Tori Spelling threads on DL, ie. gossip about her free spending ways, her constantly changing houses, her problems with her mother and husband and so on. 😆

R325... the end of taylor's nose "looked kind of pig-ish" to me.. too plump and wide....

speaking of taylor how many photos are there out there where she is COMPLETELY without ANY make-up?...

Ricky Martin

Liz Taylor, no or minimal makeup.

^^^ Omg. She's hideous.

[quote] Didn't Tori Spelling say he took her virginity?

Where did he take it, R335?

R343, To dinner and a movie, Rose.

Matilda of Flanders was known as a great beauty in her youth, but by the time she died, was said to be as wide as she was tall.

ALL beautiful people will be old and ugly - if they live long enough.

Michael Schoeffling.

For anyone who dares to call into question the judgment of anyone who deigns to suggest that JFK, Jr., would not have remained the epitome of gorgeousness had he lived, please note the current state of the equally once-gorgeous Michael Schoeffling, born just a couple of weeks after JFK, Jr.

Writer Joan Didion when young

Older Joan Didion. I guess the cigarettes didn't help.

Gotta love the casual attitude toward smoking decades ago. Joan, don't you want to give your daughter a few drags on your cigarette? Cigs are harmless.

besides the inevitable aging, it's weird when people do not even LOOK like themselves later... When if you didn't know who you were looking at, you would NEVER EVER realize it was that person!....

@347 -

Poor Mike. All these decades later and he's still getting stalked online. Ugh, fame.

On her best day

Liz Taylor was a fat little frau with weird eyes

Of course, aging poorly has a lot to do with genes, whether or not the person was a smoker, druggie, and/or heavy drinker, and if they ate crappy food and didn't exercise at all, even walked.

My mom's siblings still look amazing, great genes and no alcoholism. One aunt who heavily smoked in her teens and 20s, still looks great without any kind of plastic surgery.

Yup, looking good when older depends on genetics, healthy diet, not smoking and drinking, getting enough sleep, exercise, staying out of the sun, etc.

Watching the "Secrets of Playboy" docuseries, most of the Playmates and Bunnies that appeared have either aged badly or had bad plastic surgery. A few seemed to be wearing dentures, missing some or all of their teeth even!

Michael Schoeffling actually looks pretty good for 60.

Shelley Duvall? That’s not fair. She was never good-looking.

[quote] Michael Schoeffling actually looks pretty good for 60.

R347's link is from 2016. It's unknown when those pics of him were from. In any event, he was years from being 60.

[quote] Yup, looking good when older depends on genetics, healthy diet, not smoking and drinking, getting enough sleep, exercise, staying out of the sun, etc.

In other words, to look good at 60 you have to live your youth in total deprivation.

[quote] In other words, to look good at 60 you have to live your youth in total deprivation.

Boy, am I an attestment to that!

Supposedly the mutation that gave Liz her gorgeous double eyelashes was also responsible for her bad ticker.

James Spader is the son of one of my English teachers at prep school. Even as a small child he wore Coke bottle glasses. The last time I saw him, he was maybe 5 years old.

Liza Minelli

R363, Elizabeth Taylor was never known to have cardiac issues.

Liza Minnelli, R365. was never considered good looking.

R367 = David Gest

R368 = Stevie Wonder

Josh Duhamel and Josh Hartnett and Josh Lucas

Liza M was cute in the early years

Liza may have been cute adjacent, but she’s never been considered one of Hollywood’s good-looking dames.

She had a certain "it girl" quality for a brief window.

Grace Kelly turned quite frumpy a few years after her marriage. Her beautiful face turned rather square with weight gain and gravity.

Kip Niven

Russell Tovey

Young Claudia Cardinale

Claudia Cardinale now

More of young Ms. Cardinale

Large Marge. It happened so fast.

^ Oh, Sanjay. You and your shenanigans.

I think it was a blessing

that poor Bette was never considered a beauty

[quote] James Spader is the son of one of my English teachers at prep school. Even as a small child he wore Coke bottle glasses. The last time I saw him, he was maybe 5 years old.

Spader is 62. How old are you?!! Did you also babysit Julie Harris?

I thought that Bette Davis was attractive. Her worst feature was her droopy nose. But her eyes were so expressive that you could forgive her nose.

Clint Howard

Cardinale must be 80-ish, I don't think she looks terrible for her age, aside from the bad hair and makeup

Claudia Cardinale is 83..

sophia loren is 87

and gina lollobrigida is 94 (!)...

Sophia dresses like the grandmother of a Real Housewife. The flowery dresses, tacky jewelry and makeup, those awful wigs. Love Sophia, but she should just tone it down a little bit. No, a lot.

[quote]Cardinale must be 80-ish, I don't think she looks terrible for her age, aside from the bad hair and makeup.

I disagree. I think she has really lost her looks. It's not just aging. Maybe she smoked heavily for years. Really hate the frizzy hair.

I'm sorry R385. Clint Howard has never, ever been good looking.

That said, I *am* glad he was able to make a living on his, um, unique looks.

[quote] Clint Howard

A typically cutish 6-year old doesn't constitute a good-looking person.

Redford was a sun worshipper which is kryptonite for a red heads skin. Also the later in life facelift and bad toupees just accentuate his age.

Kim Novak overdid it in the fillers, but she also got them shortly before her Oscar’s appearance and they didn’t have time to settle which made her look like a mask. She’s also the reason a lot of older stars decking making appearances at award shows because of what will be written and said about their looks.

Page is 78 and looks much better when he keeps his hair short otherwise it looks scraggly and highlights his age.

I think Michelle Phillips may have some health issues because she looks pretty good in the aughts and in the early 2010’s. I think a lot of people forget that most people used to think an 80 year old looked like Sophia petrillo or the where’s the beef lady.

James Earl Jones. Having a theater named after you is always the kiss of death.

R393, Now you tell me.

R392 some people (celebrities whatever) hold out well for a long time (Goldie Hawn is the perfect example) into their 50s and 60s and then suddenly it the wall and hit it hard. It could be illness but not necessarily. Agreed however that she did look very good to great well into middle age and a bit beyond that.

@395 -

As another poster said above, what is the cut off? It is ridiculous to say that someone like Goldie Hawn has aged horribly when the woman is 76 years old. Would you be happier if she made herself look like something out of Madame Tussauds? Her cute pixie years were over 50 years ago. When I hear "aged horribly" I think of attractive people (20s) who look like hell in their (40s-early 50s).

Better examples would be Russell Crowe, Marlon Brando, and Mickey Rourke.

I don't even think Hawn looks bad, period. Let alone for someone who's a decade into her social security years.

^ Well said. Some people do seem to confuse aging badly with aging publicly.

Now that people live longer, we are seeing famous people age even more. It takes some getting used to.

R398 That's true. In prior generations many celebrities were dying in their 40s and 50s.

I don't know about celebrities dying in their 40s and 50s, but the careers of many actresses died when they were no longer young and pretty. Probably still true today.

Maybe now there are more paparazzi who track down older actresses because showing how their looks have gone or showing bad plastic surgery sells tabloids.

[quote] Now that people live longer, we are seeing famous people age even more. It takes some getting used to.

It all seems so unnatural.

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the most shocking and hilarious thing about this thread is that you are all assuming that a celebrity's public age is their real one.

R403 I know we have a lot of old farts on here but that LONG hasn’t been true - not since the days of IMDb - or like Rachel McAdams or Jessica Chastain you can get away with it for a while but not once you’re famous. Everyone gets found out.

[quote]Page is 78 and looks much better when he keeps his hair short otherwise it looks scraggly and highlights his age.

Jimmy Page has fake teeth and a new nose, both due to years of cocaine and heroin use. His own teeth were quite nice for a British person, but the drugs sure took their toll on his looks and his health. Sure, he's old, but he looks older than 78.

Page always had a glorious mane, better than some womens hair, but his hair is now very thin. He wears it flat and in a short low pony tail. When he did that music special with Jack While and The Edge, "It Might Get Loud", he still had some volume left, now, you can see his scalp. The photo below is how his hair looked in that special.

Page's hair still looked good here, but this photo is from 2009. I don't think there are many actual current photos of Page floating around, he's become somewhat of a recluse.

Robert Plant looks quite bad. He's now 73. My elderly mom isn't this wrinkly.

Not sure if Plant did heroin like Page, but he was a smoker and a heavy drinker. If he did drugs, it was likely cocaine. I do know he smoked weed, probably still does.

Getting old ain't for wimps.

You have to hand it to any of these people, 1 for still being alive and 2 for allowing themselves to be photographed when we can all readily compare them to their flawless young selves until the sun blows up and/or the internet breaks.

Even if we all took impeccable care, we'd age differently and finally get that sunken in gnome head pink scalp (if we're pink) look.

R406 There is also the genetics factor. Also, there is also the likelihood that he was exposed to too much sun over the years. Sun is actually healthy for you and necessary for physical and mental health, but many people during the 1970s and 1980s would roast in the sun for hours year after year to have deep tans, and many years later find they developed wrinkles and saggy skin. A close friend of mine who loved tanning every year now looks a lot older as he's past 60 due to all the lines and wrinkles he acquired.

In the past, they baked in the sun like chicken wings in an air fryer.

they even applied their own cooking oil.

Ricky Schroder

R408, Not to mention the risk of skin cancer.

Claudia Cardinale at R378 looks like Mecha-Streisand from "South Park".

Bam Margera used to be super hot. Now, he looks more like Ron Jeremy. He seems to be struggling badly to come to terms with the fact that things that are cute and funny when you're 24 are just kind of tragic & lame at 40.

You're right, R413. He does look rough for 40.

Bam Margera was actually pretty back then.

Yes he was r415…

THAT'S pretty?

Bam Margera was never handsome but he should look better at 42.

WTF is a "Bam Margera"??? So fucking random, even for DL.

Some of us watched his TV show years ago, R419.

[quote] Good-looking people that

Oh dear.

The "oh dear" troll is [bold]extremely tedious! [/bold]

^ Plus I refuse to accept the credentials of any aspiring "Oh, Dear" troll if they fail to put a comma between the "oh" and the "dear".

R39 Heather is hardly the worst!