Amanda Bynes files to end conservatorship after nearly 9 years

Giving my young age away: Amanda Bynes was my first crush as a young boy when she had her show on Nickelodeon. Then as the years went on, I found out she was a crazy, insane broad with mental problems out the wazoo. From her freakiness to Drake Bell’s sex offender conviction, I don’t think child actors are that attractive anymore.

Sounds like she's trying to do something with her life, unlike Britney or Lindsay:

"Amanda has had achievements along the way, too. She graduated from the Fashion Institute of Design & Merchandising in Los Angeles in June 2019 and got engaged to Paul Michael the following February after meeting at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting.

The former child star’s lawyer, Esquibias, told Page Six in September 2021 that she was “doing really well, besides anxiety and trauma,” and that her conservatorship could be terminated whenever it was “no longer convenient.”"

Britney is a millionaire who has been working since she was 5. How has she not done anything with her life?

"I don’t think child actors are that attractive anymore. "

R1 since you are no longer a child, that's very good to know

The only reason why Drake hasn't murdered her vagina yet is because of that damn conservatorship. Of course the fact that he is gay didn't help either.

The bovine nose ring indicates that ending the conservatorship would be a very bad idea.

Wow I hope that’s true about Amanda. I wish her well.

That was for r2.

she was begging for gas money a couple years ago to get to class.

go girl!

i did watch that sitcom and thought she was good.

"Free Amanda" just doesn't have the right ring to it.

Plus she's not a retarded clown like Britney is, so it's not as much fun to picture her falling out of a window naked the way Brit eventually is going to do, probably on her next honeymoon.

Unlike Britney and Lindsay, Amanda is actually very intelligent. Even as a small kid, she showed immense comedic talent and timing which indicates a high IQ. And unlike Britney and Lindsay, Amanda apologized for her behavior and showed a sign of a desire for self-improvement. She went to a college to study fashion design which was always a dream of hers even as a little girl. Amanda truly had good parents who raised her well. As soon as she started showing signs and began endangering herself, they got her help and out of the public eye. If Amanda is ending her conservatorship it's likely both her and her parents decided that she is capable of being independent again.

This is so different from Britney's case

yea, she was good. i was 20 something thinking, "why do i watch this stupid show?"

it was funny. she was great.

I hope her fans respect her privacy. I think she is better off out of the spotlight and doing fashion or whatever. I think she made enough movies that will go down as teen film classics: What A Girl Wants, Big Fat Liar, She's The Man, Easy A and the remake of Hairspray. She really doesn't owe anyone anything. The Daily Fail and TMZ will likely stalk her.

Teen star popularity really does a number on people.

R3, I think Britney’s father forced her to keep on performing- if he hadn’t, she probably wouldn’t have done anything with her life at all.

Britney probably would be much happier being a hairdresser or yoga instructor in Louisiana still living on a crawdad farm. She performed because that's all she knows. She was pushed into the spotlight by her mother who was driven to make Brit Brit into a star. Her whole life was determined by her fame hungry mother. She had no say in anything.

While Amanda willingly entered contests and had her own standup routine and got discovered at age 9 for All That.

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Isn't schizophrenia manageable and under the right medication and therapy independent life possible? Maybe Amanda found the right treatment. I think unlike Britney who honestly got treatment far too late and still put under pressure to perform even with a conservatorship. Amanda actually got help as soon as her symptoms got alarming and out away from the spotlight. Plus given freedom to attend classes to get a routine. Amanda wasn't exploited under her conservatorship which I can see being a reason that perhaps she made better progress. Of course we don't know the details and it's her business.

r17, I agree. Amanda set her dog on fire in her neighbor's driveway during one of her episodes. She NEEDS to be under a conservatorship.

You free Britney and free Amanda freaks were too young to remember britney threatening to kill herself and her kids in a bathroom and being strapped to a gurney. Amanda talking to telephone poles and lighting her dog on fire. These women are severely impaired and not only a danger to themselves but a danger to others. It’s unfortunate and sad that they dealt with trauma but the trauma is just a trigger of their illness- not the cause. They were wired this way and are going to be dealing with this the rest of their lives- as are their loved ones.

I have family members, blood lines and marriage, who are mentally ill. It is more horrific than you can imagine. You pray and hope they get better - and when they do - for a while - you lower your guard. Often, you lower it too much. They slip back to cuckoo town faster than you can imagine.

These people need guardians and institutional help and medication for the long run. There is no cheat day.

[quote] All you naive children screaming free everyone are doing more harm than good.

Jesus. Hoping Amanda is doing well and wishing her well is not the same as “screaming free everyone.”

Her father looks like Rudy Giuliani's brother.

She has the expression of someone who went through some immensely soul destroying experience.

Schizophrenia and bipolar 1 are manageable with meds and lots of support but it will always be a struggle. With meds and conservatorship Britney was able to thrive and perform, Amanda was able to thrive and go to school- however they both still needed constant monitoring to ensure they took their meds and strayed from temptations that would tempt them to stop their meds or go off the deep end. People with schizophrenia and bipolar 1 often go off their meds and that’s when everything.goes to hell. Without supervision it is almost inevitable that this will happen in severe cases. Also they were both restricted access to their social media during their conservatorships. Social media is a really harmful Outlet for those suffering from mental illness- not only does it enable and encourage damaging behavior- it’s also absolutely devastating to watch someone melt down in real time.. Reading Britney’s & Amanda’s paranoid amd manic tirades were/are very triggering. They remind me when my boyfriend would go off his meds and lose his mind. It was a constant roller coaster for 15 years until he killed himself last spring when he last decided to stop his meds. He was a brilliant man with a masters degree but he was always going to suffer from this. Meds can only do so much. Stop downplaying the seriousness

Didn't amanda not become ill until her very late 20s? My understanding is that this is relatively unusual with severe mental illness ( involving psychosis). That those sorts of things usually strikes in the early 20s. It seems she is something of an anomaly. She appeared to function well until about 28/29.

Amanda’s Illness began to really interfere with he’d work in her early 20’s. She was fired from the movie Hall Pass when she was 23 because of her delusional and paranoid outbursts. This is just what we know as reported. It was very likely much worse and manifested earlier than this.

I hope she gets the help she needs. This really needs to be taken out of the mainstream media. This is between her and her loved ones.

[Quote] Amanda truly had good parents who raised her well. As soon as she started showing signs and began endangering herself, they got her help and out of the public eye.

If they were truly good, she wouldn't have worked with that fat fuck from Nickelodeon.

[Quote] She was fired from the movie Hall Pass when she was 23 because of her delusional and paranoid outbursts.

She dodged a bullet there because Hall Pass was shit.

“Do I still retain conservatorship of her feet?” —D. Schneider

R20 we don’t know if Britney ever did that. It was the people who ended up over her conservatorship claiming she did that, which is why she ended up in one. Stupid.

There is a huge difference between Britney and Amanda’s situations

[quote]Isn't schizophrenia manageable and under the right medication and therapy independent life possible?

Oh you sweet summer child. No. Schizophrenia is as bad as it gets. It's a waking nightmare for the families. Schizos ALWAYS go off their meds once they start to feel better (from the meds....duh), and then they go off the rails again. It's a never-ending cycle. Sad to say it, but the families don't really get relief until their loved ones are institutionalized or dead.

Schizophrenia is not cureable and barely contained but mostly it’s a train on crooked tracks ready to go off the rails. She’s not mentally well. It’s sad. It’s a cancer of the brain that can be kept from growing but it’s always there and can easily explode at any point. Her heart face tat and nose ring, horrible extensions and blank dead eyes are indicative of someone who is a shell of themselves and the meds keep her from point A to B but not much more. If she’s off meds and feeling “normal”, her rambling thoughts take over and then it’s a shit show of violence to others and herself. I’m so sad for her but she needs 24/7 help. I think Dan the obese Pedophile from Nickelodeon definitely raped these young girls and she was mentally fractured from it. He needs to be throw in jail for life not given more young girls to ruin!

Based on that nose ring and the idiotic heart tattoo on her face I'd say her request should be denied.

Remember when she randomly visited Buffalo and insisted she wasnt in Buffalo?

Fuck off idiot at r31 and consider yourself lucky you don’t have to deal with caring for a loved one with schizophrenia or bipolar 1 when they are off their meds. Kevin federline did not receive sole custody of their children because of some evil plot. Britney was not strapped to a gurney after an hours long stand off with police because of some conspiracy. This link has a pretty good timeline of recorded events from her 2007-2008 breakdown

The “free Britney” and “free Amanda” crowd need to learn about mental health disorders

Amanda SERIOUSLY had mental issues. Britney didn’t. And mental issues doesn’t = conservatorship J. If that was the case I could have your ass put in one easily based on your internet activity.

I remember back when she went off the rails around 2013. It seemed clear to me at the time that she had schizophrenia, but her family would not admit it, instead insisting that she was simply smoking too much pot (which can exacerbate symptoms for someone with schizophrenia). Her behavior during that period was disturbing.

The reality is that schizophrenia is not curable and Amanda will need to be on antipsychotics for the rest of her life to manage it. The problem with schizophrenics is that if someone isn't keeping tabs, they often go off meds and spiral back into psychosis; drug use usually follows as a coping mechanism. I know Amanda has an older sister and older brother, so I'd hope one of them could step in in place of her parents.

What about my internet activity signifies that I have mental health issues r38? Me sharing my story about my ex boyfriend and best friend of 20 years who had bipolar 1 who killed himself last year after the last time he went off his meds? He would attempt suicide at least once a year for 15 years when he would go off his meds. He had paranoid delusions and believe his family, me and the other few friends he had that actually cared about him were “out to get him”. It is a harrowing thing to go through and witness when you love someone so much and want to help but can only do so much. When he would go off his meds he would write long paranoid screeds of word salad on social media that were heart breaking and embarrassing to witness, while others laughed and mocked. He got a face tattoo. He would blow all his money during manic sprees and found himself in dangerous situations constantly enabled by vultures who took advantage of someone with a kind heart and mental illness. His mom is probably not going to live much longer. All the trauma of trying to help him for years and now his death really destroyed her. There is no end to the pain and hell when your family member or loved one suffers from such an illness. Amanda and Britney may not have the same diagnosis. Amanda has schizophrenia. Britney either has Bipolar 1, schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder. On top of that Britney may also have DID. They both need to stay on their meds and have good people around them who really care. Not enablers. Maybe her father should not have been in charge of her conservatorship- but she needs one just as Amanda does. People who don’t know much about mental health disorders need to stop commenting on them and attacking others as if they do. That goes for any other serious topic. Go fuck your self r38.

As a few upthread have mentioned, she is not well. She cycles. She doesn’t make a lot of sense during her good periods yet alone the bad ones. She still posts crazy stuff. She still says horrible things about her parents and sister. So while she has petitioned to end her conservatorship, I can’t image it being granted.

I hope she’s not allowed to own pets anymore

Okay, does anyone know how Amanda was able to function normally and then her mental health fucking crashed in her 20s? I guess the same could be said for Britney too, but these were “healthy” girls who were able to perform, hold conversations, have friendships, jobs, etc and then one day they couldn’t. Were there always signs you think? How does this happen?

just wait, r43...

She may be naturally talented when it comes to fashion and able to do well but she stills seems crazy. The guy she was engaged to is sketchy too.

I really think the pressure of fame and easy access to drugs at a very young age triggered their mental illness. Apparently stress, trauma and drug abuse can cause genetic dispositions of mental illness to onset. Amanda and Britney both were into drugs which they likely were handed as young teens in Hollywood. Amanda did show signs as a young girl actually but it got written off as hyperactive and cutesy.

For schizophrenia: Average age of onset is usually late 20’s- early 30’s for women. For men it’s usually late teens to early 20’s. For bipolar disorder average age of onset is around 25

Britney’s paternal grandmother Emma Jean Spears had bipolar disorder and committed suicide at age 31 after at least 3 other attempts. No doubt she was genetically pre-disposed but her upbringing and the tremendous pressure of stardom only made things worse.

Robert Downey Jnr, Michael Jackson, Mel Gibson and Kanye West all demonstrated emotionally unstable and dangerous behaviour in the past, often linked to drug or alcohol addiction. But did any of them end-up in a decade-long conservatorship, losing their financial independence, or their freedom, as Spears did? No. So why has Spears’ experience been so different?

I add Amanda Bynes to this--conservatorships are roughly 60% women. Bynes and Spears didn't get support when they had emotional breakdowns--they got prison sentences.

OK RDJ did get imprisoned and he finished his rehabilitation. MJ was just the matter of his power and wealth unfortunately. Mel Gibson and Kanye West are just loud and annoying, that's not the same as being a danger to themselves. Mel did threaten and abuse others but that's because he was an asshole.

Spears never went to prison from what I remember even though she almost dropped her baby on the sidewalk, flashed her genitalia and breasts in public, was recklessly driving, drove her infant son sitting on her lap and other things. Amanda lit a dog on fire and threw objects out of her window. I feel this not an even comparison.

Emotional breakdown? Bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are much more serious.

R43 I knew a couple of people who had nervous breakdowns ( I know that's not the technical term anymore but I'm not privy to their exact diagnoses) in their early to mid 20s. Both of them were slightly " off" prior to that in their late teens but still bright eyed and able to work and function and socialise. When I say off picture somebody with a degree of social awkwardness and confusion somewhat like someone with autism. But not out of touch with reality.Once the illness hit they lost pretty much all functioning. One of them I knew had a series of extreme life stressors prior to the breakdown. I think it's both nature and environment. Both of these individuals were lower middle class btw.

All of you are not getting it. First, you don't know what their diagnoses were, second, any diagnosis of mental illness DOES NOT mean you should be locked into a CONSERVATORSHIP for 10 years. Do you realize how many mentally ill people would be in conservatorships if this was the case???

If Jackson's " power and wealth" kept him out of conservatorship, why didn't it help Spears? Answer: sexism.

Bynes did not deliberately set her dog on fire, she was having a psychotic episode. Psychotic episodes do not last 9 years or she would still be institutionalized.

[quote] Do you realize how many mentally ill people would be in conservatorships if this was the case???

Most mentally ill people aren't wealthy which wouldn't warrant one in the first place and most mentally ill end up on the streets, in prison, homeless and a premature death. Most families cannot afford to care for them and they often refuse treatment. The US does not care about the mentally ill and it's hard to get them help, safety and affordable treatment. That's why cities are filled with homeless. Britney and Amanda were lucky they were famous and could get conservatorships for their protection.

[quote] If Jackson's " power and wealth" kept him out of conservatorship, why didn't it help Spears? Answer: sexism.

No different era. Celebrities were generally "untouchable" and MJ kept himself out of the public and committed his abuse in the mansion. His awful plastic surgery and weird behavior was mocked and by the 2000s, he had little defenders. And Britney was never at ANY point in her career at the level of fame, wealth and influence as Michael Jackson. Britney stans are delusional to compare her peak and power to his.

[quote] Bynes did not deliberately set her dog on fire, she was having a psychotic episode. Psychotic episodes do not last 9 years or she would still be institutionalized.

Once you have one, why don't you think another couldn't happen again? It's a sign of a serious condition especially lighting animals on fire.

If Amanda and Britney weren't celebrities but instead regular mentally ill girls, you would not give a shit about freeing them.

Amanda was not working for years before her conservatorship happened. She was blackballed from the industry most likely due to her erratic behavior. Her parents were upper middle-class professionals. Amanda is from Ventura County which is not a cheap area. And while I agree Britney was mocked and humiliated and comes from a family of grifting vultures. Amanda's parents stepped up and got Amanda help. Amanda was mostly an actress, what financial benefit could her parents obtain from a conservatorship? Amanda's TV shows aren't widely syndicated and mostly stuck in the realm of early 2000s nostalgia and most of her movies were teen popcorn flicks. She was never a big Hollywood star.

When I was in high school, one of our Star athletes had schizophrenia. He was attractive, popular, and outgoing but also seemed kind of childlike and innocent. He had been missing from school for weeks and I asked a mutual friend if he was okay. She said he was in the hospital as they were switching his meds for his schizophrenia and they felt it was best to monitor the effects in the hospital. I would have had no clue he had such a serious mental illness had I not been told

I agree that conservatorships can be abusive and exploitative but in the case of a severely mentally ill celebrity, it would seem like a necessary evil to prevent further exploitation and getting them safety from the parasitic world of Hollywood. It's extremely difficult to keep mentally ill people safe and medicated. And yes, I can see why it can seem infantilizing towards them but should we let schizophrenics and severe bipolar people enter a self-destructive path and early death? I mean Aaron Carter and Shia LaBeouf probably would benefit from one too.

R53: posts from 3 months ago from Amanda.

“fyi Britney’s father Jamie has been stealing her blood weekly to keep himself alive. This is what they do. They take and take until there is physically nothing left to take.”

“I’m 100% positive that my parents and attorney kept my beloved aborted fetus Javier Rose in order to physically clone me and trick people into thinking that they seen me in public doing things when in reality I have been locked away for a very very long time. “

My mental health issues didn't peak until I was 29-30. I thought it was just your garden variety depression/anxiety until I started dealing with panic attacks and emotional "episodes". I recently found out that I have PTSD. I appeared to be doing well in my 20s because I never dealt with my childhood trauma.

High-functioning adults can also have severe mental illness--some hide it better than others. Amanda and Britney reached a breaking point.

I am diagnosed bipolar but I have a long-standing fear of developing schizoaffective disorder/schizophrenia/some other psychotic disorder later in life. (I'm in my late 30s.) Sometimes I have what I would consider delusions that are not related to mania, although I know that they're delusions, or at least that something is not right with my thinking. I'm prone to magical thinking.

Bipolar disorder has been awful, but I can't imagine what a nightmare it would be to live with schizophrenia. Even when properly medicated, schizophrenics have many breakthrough symptoms.

I wish Amanda the best.

R58 Well fuck, I’m going to hell. I’m in tears over “my beloved aborted fetus, Javier Rose”.

Her new Insta.

R63 Yeah... She's definitely gone. At least Britney still shows personality, Amanda there is nothing there.

Her speech in the vid at r63 is very odd. I don't remember such a clipped deliver from her before.

*delivery

She sho is ugly!

And yet just yesterday she was doing her frequent money beg on Twitter. I do believe those around her are humoring her with the possibility of her getting out of her conservatorship. Won’t happen. She’s still a mess.

I feel so bad for her. I was optimistic she was getting better but it looks like she's not. Schizophrenia is truly heartbreaking.

She's still with that guy she said got her pregnant.

Removing her tattoo now

What about all the flashing lights and paparazzi? That would make anyone have a breakdown even if they were perfectly fine.

It’s like living in the Truman’s show. You hear helicopters overheard and now your house is on tv. The whole world wants a piece of you

Scary stuff.

Bipolar is manageable. I think Britney has schizoaffective while maybe Amanda has schizophrenia. I'm not their psychiatrist and luckily both their families have done their best to keep their diagnoses private (despite nosy fans). Both began acting out in their late 20s which is the onset usually. The pressures of fame and drugs definitely pushed them over the edge and triggered the genetic markers for mental illness. I think maybe Amanda is a bit more introverted while Britney more extroverted which is why Britney is more talkative and attention-seeking.

[quote]Removing her tattoo now

And yet she still hasn't removed Elmer the Bull's nose ring.

What psychopath gave her the facetoo to begin with? He/she belongs in prison.

The heart tattoo on Amanda while ugly is nowhere close to the abominations that ruined Aaron Carter's face. Seriously? I thought most tattoo artists were against face tattoos since only people who are crazy or under the influence would ask for that. But money will make anyone disregard ethics.

Seriously.

Takes a real sicko to do that to her for $50.

Countdown to the 5150!

Two years max before she’s broke and back in conservatorship

In that clip of #71's she looks in her late-40s.

Amanda was part of my AA intervention and helped me get into rehab when I was seriously about to DIE.

Thanks, Mandy. You helped save my life, and I will forever be grateful to you, even though that face tattoo of yours is tragic AF.

More please, R82.

Personally, I think the use of the word "Conservatorship" is very problematic here because a Conservatorship is not an actual ship and it denies the true identity of actual ships out there in the world. I think we should all say, like, Conservatortion or Conservator application or something.

Britney from two days ago ,looking eerily like Karla Holmoka, pulling her skirt down so fans can speculate if she pregnant or not...not normal behavior for, what is she now, 40?

Who takes these creepy pictures of her....?

Amanda Bynes is literally the sample case for why conservatorships exist and should be in place for people.

While Britney was POSSIBLY purely a money grab by greedy parents, Amanda is clearly not well.

I agree Britney and Amanda while both mentally ill had very different environments. Amanda's parents clearly cared for her. Britney's parents saw her as a cash cow. Amanda went to school and stayed private. Britney did Vegas and out and about promoting. I can better believe that Amanda is doing better because she got to live a normal routine for years. Britney never stopped being a famous celebrity.

She’s thirty FIVE? I’m getting old.

Britney looks weird.

Britney never had fashion sense and she's stuck in the early 2000s. It looks weird because she's 40 and while her body is youthful, her face looks hard and is aging rapidly. The blonde weaves aren't helping. She doesn't have a good makeup artist like Jennifer Lopez and Christina Aguilera do.

Being mentally ill doesn’t mean you belong in a conservatorship. Maybe you all should learn about it because speaking on the topic.

On top of that, a certain user needs to learn what schizophrenia is.

Didn't she go back to school and get some sort of fashion degree?

[quote]Didn't she go back to school and get some sort of fashion degree?

She certainly didn't get a degree in hairdressing.

She was talented. Genuinely funny. I thought her small part in “Easy A” was the best part of the movie. (And Stanley Tucci.)

Is she pursuing a doctorate? She’s been attending fashion school for several years now.

[quote]Being mentally ill doesn’t mean you belong in a conservatorship.

If you cannot function in society to protect your own interests, it's exactly where you belong.

If you cannot assess situations for appropriate actions to ensure your own well-being, it's exactly where you belong.

If you cannot guard against the undue influence of other people who might take advantage of your mental illness, it's exactly where you belong.

[Quote] While Britney was POSSIBLY purely a money grab by greedy parents,

I don't think it was simply a money grab. Was money grabbing going on? Probably. But it was probably a side benefit.

The mid 2000s seemed to produce a lot of severely disturbed female celebrities. The ones who had their heyday in the 90s seemed less screwed up.

R99 You may be onto something. Winona Ryder, Alicia Silverstone, Mariah Carey, Drew Barrymore and Angelina Jolie are cuckoo, disturbed and all but still more or less function. Britney and Amanda completely lost their faculty. Lindsay Lohan still can't get her shit together. The Olsen twins look like death.

Amanda and Britney will both be pregnant by the end of the year which will exacerbate their illnesses leading to their significant others hitting the child support jackpot in the near future.

[Quote] The ones who had their heyday in the 90s seemed less screwed up.

Ha ha.

Now I can FLYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

[Quote] while her body is youthful

Britney is relatively slim but she's grown thicker in the middle. She and her team dress her like she still has an hourglass shape.

Amanda's boyfriend is quite a bit younger. No idea if he works or go to school. Pretty sure he doesn't drive. His claim to fame seems to be lots and lots of tattoos. And being Amanda's side piece. I believe her mother was more than thrilled to be out of the conservator role. Let homeboy take over. HA!

Do you know Amanda's fiance, r82?

Aha…it’s already started. Posted an hour ago by Amanda:

“ they did the same exact thing to Britney.

“Free” from what exactly ???

Our estates (FINANCES) are now being controlled by our attorneys.”

I feel bad for her. She had a genuine spark when she was younger and was a very good comedic actress. She seems so sad now.

I've always thought there was a touch of Lorna Luft in her face.

I still don't think Amanda is well. Her eyes look sad and she looks like she has bipolar or some other issue. Maybe she doesn't need to be conserved but does she know what's she's doing?

Like Brit, I think they both self-medicated or some serious shit (Brit was meth, not sure about Amanda, but it was way more than pot) and it addled their already taxed grey cells. They won't be the same.

There's a flatness in recent pics. She probably is on her meds. The energy is very different from that gif where she had blonde extensions in an old school Paris Hilton/Nicole Ritchie style and is pouting into the mirror.

This one.

It's too bad she is mentally ill.

She was funny in a handful of movies - like the one with Colin Firth as her father.

She is an adult and should be given the opportunity to destroy her life if she wants I just hope she doesn’t hurt more animals.

Who? Out of sight, out of mind.

R40 You rant like a mental patient while projecting your psychosis on other people. You don't know Amanda or Britney. And you know nothing about their mental health. Britney's networth has doubled since conservatorship ended. She's just fine, but you clearly aren't. Seek help.

R116 You tell someone to not project a mental diagnosis onto others yet you do the same thing by telling that person to get help? Opinions do not indicate one is crazy. You know no more than the other person you're lecturing to.

R116 People who lack the ability to take care of their own lives tend to cause harm to others especially their loved ones. If they are too mentally ill to not harm themselves, why would they not be capable of harming others? The idea of individuality isn't real, purely a modern Western concept. People's actions affect everyone around them no matter how tiny. So if you can't have any ability to be responsible for yourself, others will suffer. With freedom comes responsibility. And nobody likes responsibility anymore.

She should have that facial tattoo removed as a sign of good faith before the conservatorship is lifted.

AA will Make her more crazy

"You don't know about Britney's mental health but let me tell you about her finances."

Make it make sense.

R121 it makes perfect sense. All you negative haters said she’d be broke within a year. Quite the opposite is true. She’s doing beautifully and recouping her money with the help of her attorney.

It doesn't make sense, hon. You don't know her situation any better than anyone else.

R123 Imagine desperately wanting someone to fail. She’s working with the producer of Circus to make new music. Her net worth has double. Again, seek help you nasty bitter troll.

Who said I want her to fail? You're arguing against comments not made.

I’m Rooting for Brit

OP- In your photo on the right he looks like Rudolph Giuliani

Today:

I’m told that I should just be happy. I’m scared that I can ruin everything instantly. I am expected to get an allowance starting in April but I’m not being helped now, and I do not have full control over my finances.

But if anyone wanted to help me with some small things until my allowance and monthly expenditure occurred I could really use $34 tonight if anyone can possibly help me $ALB4386

it’s totally fine if nobody wants to help me I can definitely use the help for the time being, I am even accepting art supplies and help with Uber but I would really appreciate any help offered to me for the time being as I do not have much currently.

While it's unlikely that Bynes could live a wealthy lifestyle, she probably has enough to have an annual income living off investment income of at least $250K.

R128 where are you getting this from?

I remember reading that Bynes owns an apartment building.

The sad thing is, people have jumped on the bandwagon and want to see conservatorships completely ended. However, Britney, Amanda, Nichelle Nichols and so many others are not well. They have to put in work to function like normal adults, and conservatorships have helped ensures their money wasn’t completely wasted.

In what sense do the drugs work except to sedate them?

Well... There haven't been any reports of Amanda setting anyone's driveway on fire lately...

Twitter. @persianlady27 Her account for 5 or 6 years

@persianla27

Correction

And she is right back to her daily begathon. Seemingly nothing has changed.

She's as cheap as Garbo.

Why doesn’t she get a job? Then we’d all believe she was better.

She's posting nude butt pix. So much for not having a cnservatorship.

"Diamonds"

How come poor/average people don't seem to get these conservatorships? Oh.

R142 They do, you just don’t know about them. It all depends on what their families are mentally and financially capable of. A lot of people with mental illnesses are disowned or abandoned by their families after a certain point.

R143 None of the regular people with bipolar or other personality disorders that I know of have a conservatorship.

I expect there's a lot you don't know of.

R145 ever read The Woman in White? This stinks of a tactic to get hold of someone's money.

No, it doesn't. You have a bias that's blinding you.

R147 This movie too (I Care A Lot). Scary stuff.

[quote] Amanda SERIOUSLY had mental issues. Britney didn’t.

The head shaving in public? The sudden marriage in Las Vegas? Attacking the car with an umbrella?

SUUUUUURE, Britney...

Clearly, her parents are in a guard gated community! I mean, right?

Whose parents, R150?