A Tree Grows in Brooklyn (1945)
EG here, and I had never caught up to this one until last night. It was one of the better old black and white films I have seen in quite a while. Really well done. Elia Kazan's first movie. Just some general thoughts:
1) wasn't familiar with James Dunn until this, but his Oscar was well-deserved. A charming performance in many ways despite the fact his character is an alcoholic loser. 2) Dorothy McGuire looks like she is missing a tooth from certain angles. I don't find her very pretty but her performance is fine. 3) Lloyd Nolan gives a moving performance as a kindly beat cop. 4) Joan Blondell looked terrific in this and was welcome energy anytime she showed up. Her character was pretty risque for 1945. A serial bride who marries one guy when she isn't even sure the other was dead! 5) Why was the mother responsible for cleaning the hallways? Did she get a cut in the rent?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 4, 2025 11:10 AM
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I love this movie. All of the actors who played the main characters gave great performances.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | February 24, 2022 11:02 PM
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James Dunn was a mess in real life.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | February 24, 2022 11:12 PM
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The first feature Kazan directed and one of his best. Kazan later said of James Dunn:
Jimmy had been run out of movies for drinking. He was largely unemployable and felt ill at ease at the studio. But he was an awfully sweet, nice man, a hell of a guy. When I met him I said, this is it, this is Johnny Nolan, himself. He's full of watery-eyed Irish affection. He's ebullient. He feels guilty. He slinks. He and the girl are authentic, so I stayed off the background as much as possible and got onto their faces. By far the most authentic thing about the film is Peggy Ann Garner's face. Nothing compares with it except maybe Jimmy Dunn's face.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | February 24, 2022 11:16 PM
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You can watch this film on YouTube.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | February 24, 2022 11:25 PM
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I love this movie, too. My grandmother was Norwegian, grew up in Brooklyn, and always said it reminded her of her own family.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | February 24, 2022 11:28 PM
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Poor Peggy. She had an early death.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | February 25, 2022 4:01 AM
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I haven't seen this yet but I've heard good things about it.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | February 25, 2022 4:03 AM
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Garner's second husband was Albert Salmi, who appeared in Kazan's "Wild River" (1960). They had a daughter and divorced in the early 60s. Salmi remarried and moved to Spokane: he shot his second wife, then himself in 1990.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | February 25, 2022 4:22 AM
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Great film. Kazan distilled all of the best parts of the (very excellent) book while retaining much of its complexity. It is a fantastic read and if you like Aunt Sissy in the movie, you will really fall for her in the book. Such a great character, and Joan Blondell nailed her energy.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | February 25, 2022 5:05 AM
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I read the book many years ago, and discovered the movie back in the early 2000s. I didn't know Kazan was the director, but that explains a lot. It's right up there with my all-time-favorite B&W movies.
If you haven't seen it, you should.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | February 25, 2022 5:33 AM
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I really don't understand why this boring movie has such a hold on people.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | February 25, 2022 5:35 AM
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Peggy Ann, James Dunn, Anne Revere, and Ray Milland on Oscar night.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 13 | February 25, 2022 6:07 AM
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I thought it was a bit creepy how Lloyd Nolan moves in on the family and they’re all basically waiting for Jimmy Dunn to die. ACAB.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | February 25, 2022 9:48 AM
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[quote] I really don't understand why this boring movie has such a hold on people.
Because it isn't boring.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | February 25, 2022 12:06 PM
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It's a really lovely film. Highly recommended for those who haven't seen it.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | February 25, 2022 12:12 PM
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It's not one of those creaky old black and white films.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | February 25, 2022 2:03 PM
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I cried twice when I first saw it. When Peggy finds the small bouquet of flowers on her desk and when in the torment of giving birth to a baby they literally have no money for Dorothy McQuire spills out her feelings to her daughter of why she treated her as she did.
In Kazan's auto bio he talks about I believe being in the army and on movie night they show this film and nobody has any idea he's the director so he gets unfiltered opinions. Daryl Zanuck liked the film so much it got Kazan into the holy of holies the 20th Century Fox executive steam room where I assume many a business meeting was held.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | February 25, 2022 3:13 PM
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Didn't Betty Grable turn down the role of Aunt Sissy?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | February 26, 2022 12:07 AM
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The house where Betty Smith wrote "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn" in Williamsburg still stands,
by Anonymous | reply 21 | February 26, 2022 12:21 AM
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The Aunt Sissy role was intended for Alice Faye. She had complications with her second pregnancy, and was hospitalized. She lost the role to Joan Blondell. Joan was perfect for the part. She revitalized her career as a character actress.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | February 26, 2022 12:44 AM
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R12 The book, at least, had a hold on my mother. She was raised in the Depression and lived with Reverse Snobbery for the rest of her life.
I tried to watch the movie on Youtube last night but it was too sentimental for me. And Irish drunks and children bore me. And I distrust Elia Kazan.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | February 26, 2022 12:57 AM
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R9, she dodged a bullet. For real.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | February 26, 2022 1:02 AM
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Brilliant film with so many loving and authentic period details. My mother always talked about how much she loved the book as well as the film and that it reminded her of her own Jewish family and upbringing though she grew up in a Manhattan lower east side tenement about 20 years later than the events portrayed.
When I finally read the book a few years ago I was actually a little disappointed. I found it much less sentimental than the film and the characters are a lot tougher, even little Francie.
Anyway, I can't imagine anyone can watch the graduation scene at the end of the film and not bawl their eyes out.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | February 26, 2022 1:22 AM
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Brilliant film with so many loving and authentic period details. My mother always talked about how much she loved the book as well as the film and that it reminded her of her own Jewish family and upbringing though she grew up in a Manhattan lower east side tenement about 20 years later than the events portrayed.
When I finally read the book a few years ago I was actually a little disappointed. I found it much less sentimental than the film and the characters are a lot tougher, even little Francie.
Anyway, I can't imagine anyone can watch the graduation scene at the end of the film and not bawl their eyes out.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | February 26, 2022 1:22 AM
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Beautiful movie. One of my favorites. I don't understand why TCM doesn't show it more often.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | February 26, 2022 1:28 AM
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They got a cut in rent for cleaning the hallways. When I was growing up in Brooklyn in the 60s we got $15 off the rent for keeping the halls clean. I helped my mom every Saturday morning. So instead of $105 a month our rent was only $90.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | February 26, 2022 1:30 AM
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this was one of my favorite books
by Anonymous | reply 29 | February 26, 2022 3:10 AM
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I read the book in high school and loved it so much I found the movie. I remember the movie was almost a word-for-word copy of the book, but ended halfway through the novel. Is this correct or did I just miss half of the movie?
by Anonymous | reply 31 | February 26, 2022 7:27 AM
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No, you didn't miss any of the movie. In the movie, Francie's 8th grade graduation is followed almost immediately by the policeman's marriage proposal to Francie's widowed mother. In the novel these two events occur several years apart. In the interim, Francie worked in an office job, then enrolled in college (skipping high school). This was the most boring part of the novel which was why it was omitted from the movie.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | February 26, 2022 8:14 AM
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The above post was for R31.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | February 26, 2022 8:16 AM
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Thanks R33,
I think I’ll either watch the movie or read the book again. I’m pretty sure my partner would hate the movie, so maybe reading would be better for our relationship!
by Anonymous | reply 35 | February 26, 2022 8:31 AM
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[QUOTE] A Tree Grows in Brooklyn
Does the book tell us what kind of tree it was?
by Anonymous | reply 36 | February 26, 2022 9:08 AM
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An excellent and under appreciated film; I only saw it for the first time within the past 2 years on TCM and was shocked by how good it was and how much it moved me.
One of the great and most authentic films about family life in the United States and the fight for many on the margins economically to just try to survive while still hoping to somehow attain their piece of the American Dream...
by Anonymous | reply 37 | February 26, 2022 9:33 AM
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R6 your grandmother must've enjoyed "I Remember Mama" about the San Francisco Norwegian family in the early 1900s. And from 1949-1957, TV series "Mama" starring Peggy Wood..
by Anonymous | reply 38 | February 26, 2022 11:09 AM
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The Tree of Heaven, or Ailanthus, gained fame in 1943 as a symbol of endurance in Betty Smith's A Tree Grows in Brooklyn.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | February 26, 2022 11:12 AM
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If the film had continued the story that's in the book about Francie's young adulthood after leaving school, they would have had to find older actors to play her and her brother. I think Kazan made the right decision to end the film where he did.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | February 26, 2022 1:29 PM
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If the film had continued the story that's in the book about Francie's young adulthood after leaving school, they would have had to find older actors to play her and her brother. I think Kazan made the right decision to end the film where he did.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | February 26, 2022 1:29 PM
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The natural gas hook ups to the interior lights always make me nervous lol.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | February 26, 2022 6:07 PM
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James Dunn played Shirley Temple's young widowed father in one of her earliest and biggest hits DIMPLES. She sang "On the Good Ship Lollipop" to him.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | February 26, 2022 7:36 PM
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Why can't network television produce wonderful, but half-forgotten musicals like A TREE GROWS IN BROOKLYN? Audiences may not know the material but, if you could just convince them to tune in, they would love it.
Instead we just keep getting GREASE and ANNIE and THE SOUND OF MUSIC. I'm sure THE MUSIC MAN with Hugh will be next.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | February 26, 2022 7:39 PM
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One of my favorite movie - I watch it, Marty and A Catered Affair any chance I get for that mid-century black & white NY working class charm.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | February 26, 2022 8:36 PM
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These tenements that these stories take place in --- what are they today?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | February 26, 2022 9:31 PM
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Another song from the musical...
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 49 | February 26, 2022 9:47 PM
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R21 Betty lived on the top (fourth) floor at 702 Grand Street near Graham Avenue.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | February 26, 2022 9:57 PM
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[r45], Shirley sang "On the Good Ship Lollipop" in "Bright Eyes", which featured a scene-stealing performance byhe t Jane Withers. I know Dunn was in it, but I think he played her dad's best friend. He had to tell her that her dad had been killed when the plane he was piloting crashed.
Dunn played her dad in "Stand Up and Cheer, " which was the film that made her a star.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 53 | October 4, 2025 9:13 AM
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Thanks for that clip R52, what a marvelous scene.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 4, 2025 9:58 AM
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I read somewhere the Lloyd Nolan character sexually abused Francie in real life
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 4, 2025 10:11 AM
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R43, they are still there- I lived in one! Williamsburg, Brooklyn on Grand St near Manhattan Ave. As someone else mentioned, the building where she wrote the book still exists. You can eat in the backyard of a restaurant of that building and the tree is probably still there!
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 4, 2025 11:04 AM
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Did Peggy plant her own tree and make it grow?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 4, 2025 11:10 AM
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