Was Ellen Burstyn robbed an Oscar for Requiem for a Dream?

This should've been a poll.

And yes she was.

But didn't Julia sweep all the major awards that year for Erin Brockovich?

I went to college in 2001 and at the time I thought Requiem for a Dream was one of the best movies ever made and the Burstyn had been robbed. As I got older though I realized it's a very tawdry and exploitative film. The plot is paper thin and it's only purpose to set up all the misery that makes up the bulk of the film. The only semi-plausible story line is Jared Leto's.

Without a doubt.

Ass to Ass robbed.

[Quote] This should've been a poll.

I thought about it but decided no.

She should have lost some more weight.

R2, Yes. TPTB decided Julia was overdue for awards recognition.

" The only semi-plausible story line is Jared Leto's."

Great acting occurs in story lines that aren't necessarily plausible all the time.

Wasn’t Burstyn supporting?

Yes, Ellen was robbed, RFAD is haunting& creepy. That music is now in my head again, Thanks DL Her descent into loneliness and "speed-induced madness" was awesome but awful to watch!! I wanted the Wayans bro to get raped& Jennifer Connelly was wonderful in RFAD.

I don't think she was robbed per se. Plus she's won before and there was no way they would have given up the chance for Julia to win.

I would've voted for Linney in a bad year for nominations.

Burstyn gave an A performance in a supporting role, but the movie was only a C.

Roberts was ridiculous.

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"They're called boobs, Ed."

[quote]Was Ellen Burstyn robbed an Oscar for Requiem for a Dream?

I woulda sworn it was in this purse somewhere.

Yes.

No. Burstyn was completely hammy in the role and overacted shamelessly. She was terrible in a terrible film.

While it wasn't a transformative performance, Roberts served the character well, created an indelible impression and helped make the story dynamic and absorbing. Sometimes an excellent performance will come from an actor knowing their strengths and how to use them in a way that creates a great time at the movies. Roberts 100% deserved her Oscar (in a year, admittedly, that was very weak for lead actresses).

I'm one of those people who thought RFAD was brilliant the first time round, but was much schlockier upon revisiting. That said, Burstyn really is great. She's so unnerving and she really makes you feel multiple ways. You feel her isolation and boredom and genuinely feel sorry for her. You also want to slap the shit out of her because she's so pathetic and annoying. I think the performance goes overboard at the end but I'm guessing that's the writer and director who wanted that.

[quote]I realized it's a very tawdry and exploitative film.

LITERALLY my favorite genre!

She was brilliant in a film that does not age well. Julia Toberts was very good in Erin Brockovich, and it was time for her to win some awards.

I agree with R18 about Roberts. She was very good in a big movie (her specialty). I can understand R18's criticisms of Burstyn but don't necessarily agree.

Watch it again, Ellen is over the top and now camp. She didn't deserve an Oscar for just looking shitty.

R18 here. I've only seen the movie once, on video when it first came out, and that was plenty for me. I've never found that a film or a performance I didn't like the first time around had suddenly gotten better on a 2nd viewing. (At least as an adult. I've seen films as a kid/teenager that didn't quite do it for me, but that I came to really appreciate and even love after seeing them again as an adult. A Clockwork Orange is the first to come to mind.)

Agree with R13. Linney’s was my favorite performance out of that group, and that movie has really stuck with me over the years.

2000 was such a rotten year for lead actress roles, I found myself considering such mediocre performances as Cate Blanchett in The Gift and Kim Basinger in I Dreamed of Africa. No wonder Joan Allen got in for The Contender.

Burstyn isn't a "two Oscars" kind of actress. One Oscar for her is more than enough. So the answer is a resounding NO.

Marlon Wayans did the best (and only subtle) acting in the film, but I wouldn’t even consider him robbed because Joaquin was robbed in not winning Best Supporting for Gladiator, and Phillip Seymour Hoffman wasn’t nominated either, and he arguably should have won for Almost Famous. Benicio won instead (and wasn’t this the year he was rumored to have banged Lindsey Lohan in an Oscars elevator?).

I loved Burstyn in the film but I’d pick both Roberts’s and Linney’s performances over hers.

R18 is the kind of acting "critique" I see all the time on DL and DESPISE. Overacting isn't bad. Acting, until the chokehold of "relatability" (gag) on arts and culture, had some kind of heightened element about it because it was ART, not real life. Most naturalism is "technically" skilled work but boring as fuck to watch - I'm not talking Brando naturalism, but what passes as naturalism today, I'm sick of this thinking that someone who most accurately mimics a real life person is the height of acting. For example, DDL is way more engaging in "hammy" roles like There Will Be Blood and Phantom Thread than he is in Lincoln.

Also, I'm genuinely wondering where it came from that subtle acting is the only kind of acting that's worth a reward. Aren't many the performances we remember for decades - Swanson as Norma Desmond, Davis as Margo Channing - not particularly subtle?

Hipster flick. Yawn.

Funny how the Roberts’ haters fail to see the strength of this performance. She was great. Love Burstyn but she was more supporting.

BDT banged ScarJo in the elevator.

Who knows? Who cares? At least overrated Ellen didn't get *my* Oscar!

Ellen and Julia are both going to remain one-time winners. Thankfully they each won for their most deserving performance.

R34 If we want to talk about overrated, Glenda Jackson is somebody who you can apply the overused "ham" critique to because she's never been able to derive any sort of emotion out of me through her work. The worst kind of overpraised English actress. People just praised her because she dared show her tits and snatch while being non-conventionally attractive.

Or maybe you're just a cold fish R36, and that's why she never moved you.

yum-oooooooooo

R37 No, she does the same neurotic and crazy sexually liberated woman shtick in ALL her movies. It was good the first time in Women in Love. I've seen almost all her films because I wanted to get what the fuss is all about, but there's not much there. She was popular and overpraised because she came at the right time in the zeitgeist - the late 60s/early 70s - where attitude about women's sexuality went through a severe schizo phase in America, and she was an "ugly" woman who was being cast as both repellent and sexually voracious at the same time.

Vanessa Redgrave is light years better as an actress. Better range, more emotionally affecting. Maggie Smith is as well, though because she didn't show her snatch she wasn't as zeitgeist-y during Jackson's peak.

Helen Mirren and Judi Dench are on Jackson's level, which is "sometimes good, but overrated because they're British."

And Jackson's Oscar for A Touch of Class is one of the most puzzling wins ever. I guess it was because she played against type.

I thought Jackson was brilliant, and very moving, in "Stevie" and "Turtle Diary".

One long standing rumor about Jackson’s win was that it was the closest ever and Jackson had beat the others by only 1,2,3,4 votes (runner up by one 5th place finisher by 4). Bustyn didn’t like going to award shows back then because she was afraid her ex husband would try and kill her. When she did win she didn’t show up because she didn’t want to miss a performance of same time next year.

r39 It was one of the biggest upsets ever for the Oscars. Jackson beat out Streisand for The Way We Were, Joanne Woodward for Summer Wishes, Winter Dreams, newcomer Marsha Mason for Cinderella Liberty and front-runner Burstyn for The Exorcist.

Look at all the stunned faces when Helen Lawson announces Jackson the winner.

Fuck YES she was. The red dress speech is my favorite scene of any movie I've ever watched in my entire life. That scene earned her the Oscar Julia stole from her.

This is some insight into it:

[quote]Aronofsky says the scene where Harry goes to visit Sara was his favorite scene in Selby’s novel, it was the scene that ultimately motivated Aronofsky to make the film, and it is his favorite moment in the finished film. Aronofsky feels this scene is representative of the whole story, how it’s about the difficulty addicts find connecting with the people they love. The scene has three sections: the light side when things are pleasant at the beginning; the dark side when the two begin to argue after Harry finds Sara’s drugs; and back to the light side when Sara makes her confession at the end. Aronofsky sees Ellen Burstyn capturing this performance in this scene as his proudest moment. Aronofsky notes all of Burstyn’s performance in the confession moment was from one, single take. She actually did three takes, but she did each take differently. They couldn’t be combined or cut together. Burstyn is actually out of frame at one point at the end of the take used. Aronofsky was pissed when he noticed this during filming. He went to cinematographer Matthew Libatique to see what had happened. Libatique had tears streaming down his face from Burstyn’s performance. He had fogged up the lens and couldn’t see to properly frame it.

[quote]Marlon Wayans did the best (and only subtle) acting in the film, but I wouldn’t even consider him robbed because Joaquin was robbed in not winning Best Supporting for Gladiator

R28, Gladiator was when I learned to hate Joaquin Phoenix. I had no opinion of him before that and I was shocked when he was nominated. I remember a film critic describing his performance as one where he was comatose right up till when the director yelled Action! and right at that moment a crew member hits Phoenix with a 2 x 4 to wake him up. He played the Joker as a fey queen, not a psychopath and he never should have won.

She should have gone supporting. It was a three character piece. They were all supporting. And Jennifer Connelly also deserved a nomination.

Erin is a Karen.

I would go further to say that Roberts was the only acting winner that year who actually deserved her award. Russell Crowe's Oscar was clearly a make-up one for him losing the year before in the far superior The Insider. Benicio Del Toro did absolutely nothing in Traffic and the less said about Marcia Gay Harden, the better.

Albert Finney and Frances McDormand should have won the supporting Oscars, and of the nominees, Javier Bardem was the best Best Actor (though I think Michael Douglas was fantastic in Wonder Boys).

Julia Roberts deserved the Oscar. In fact, what she does in Erin Brockovich is almost the platonic ideal of an Oscar-winning role. It’s the type of performance that makes the Oscars what they are. She was the biggest star in the world at the height of her powers, and deploys them in the service of a beloved movie that is tougher and more complicated than people remember.

Ellen Burstyn gives a great performance, but it’s pitched to the level of the Independent Spirit Awards. (I would have said the LA Film Critics, but Julia Roberts actually won that award, which would never happen today). The movie and her performance are relentlessly harrowing and difficult to watch, which is not a criticism; they should be, given the subject matter. But the Oscars have historically not been about that.

Think of it this way: last year Frances McDormand won Nomadland, which was more acclaimed than Requiem for a Dream ever was, and yet few seem happy about her win. Wouldn’t we rather have Julia Roberts win for chewing the scenery in a push-up bra in a big hit, then giving a ridiculously entertaining acceptance speech than having Fran gIve sour-faced speeches for a movie where she shits in a bucket?

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She was dumb to go for lead. She'd have won in supporting.

Yes. I wanted her to win so badly that year. I would have accepted Linney also. You Can Count On Me is a favorite of mine.

Julia Roberts winning is as undeserving as Sandra Bullock playing a hick in that football movie. Audience and frau pleasing hokum.

Erin Brockovich wasn't hokum at all. It's an excellent film that's held up with time..

That Laura Linney thing - now that was hokum.

Wrong!!! R52

There is no comparing Erin Brockovich and The Blind Side.

Na. It was Laura Linney who was robbed but Julia Roberts was a very good winner.

I voted for Burstyn that year. I didn't think the others even compared. Plus we all knew Roberts was going to win. And she did, and that was fine, cause she was great in the movie, and the movie was excellent. I just thought Burstyn turned in a performance for the ages. Laura Linney would have been my second choice.

In case you are wondering, that year I also voted for: Marcia Gay Harden -- Yep, the surprise winner of the year. It was down to her and Kate Hudson, and at the last minute I gave Harden my vote. Couldn't believe it when she won. Albert Finney -- I preferred him to Benecio Del Toro. And he was due. Javier Bardem -- Before Night Falls. This one was a no-brainer. Bardem should have won. Stephen Daldry -- Knew he wouldn't win, but Billy Elliott worked for me on every level. I know... MARY! Cameron Crowe -- for Almost Famous. Almost didn't happen. Almost voted for Kenny Lonergan. So glad he got his Oscar later for Manchester By the Sea. Stephen Gaghan -- for Traffic for Adapted Screenplay. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon -- Best Foreign Film and Best Picture.

Don't think I voted for Gladiator for anything.

Hilariously, I can't remember if I voted

That got cut off.

Hilariously, I can't remember if I voted for Crouching Tiger for Best Picture. I think I did. It was either that or Traffic. Definitely not Gladiator.

If I had my way, Almost Famous and Wonder Boys would have taken the majority of the Oscars that year. Wonder Boys really got the shaft.

Did you vote for G or Oliva Colman that year academy member.

Who are you voting for this year.

GLADIATOR!!

I voted for G. I didn't particularly like The Wife, but I thought it was G's time, and she should have won for Dangerous Liaisons.

This year... Not fully decided yet. Gotta see Worst Person in the World and Cyrano before I vote. But so far...

Pic: Drive My Car, Power of the Dog or West Side Story Actor: Andrew Garfield or Benedict Cumberbatch. Both amazing. Will Smith was very good too, but the other two moved me more. Actress: Penelope Cruz S. Actor: Troy Kotsur or Kodi Smit-McPhee S. Actress: Ariana DeBose Director: Jane Campion OS: Gotta see Worst Person in the World first, but right now I'm leaning to Licorice Pizza , or maybe Don't Look Up. (Don't Look Up won't win, but I like it.) AS: Power of the Dog or Drive My Car. Animated: Flee International: Drive My Car unless I really love Worst Person in the World Score: Parallel Mothers Song: LMM submitted the wrong damn song. I hate that ballad that he's up for. So I'm deciding between the Bond song and Beyonce. Editing: Tick, Tick... Boom Cinematography: Power of the Dog Makeup/Hair: Eyes of Tammy Faye Sound: West Side Story Costumes: West Side Story (unless Cyrano blows me away) Visual Effects: Dune

[quote] GLADIATOR!! —Elizabeth Taylor

thanks r61

interesting

delish!

r61 which actors did you vote for last year?

R65,

Last year I voted for: Carey Mulligan (Almost voted for Andra Day. But I thought it was Carey's turn.) Anthony Hopkins (Tough category last year. I loved all of them except for Gary Oldman, who was fine.) Maria Bakalova (What an unlikely nominee. Just sublime.) Paul Raci (Daniel Kaluuya was great in JUDAS, but it was a lead role, not supporting. I hate that shit.)

cool r66. Raci was the only true Supporting performance in the whole category. I hate that sneaky category fraud too. May I ask what part of the academy you are in? (writer, actor, editor etc.)?

The past few years, I've wished more than ever we had write-in opportunities. (Not that they would do any good.) I find more and more that I vote strategically to keep someone from winning than for someone I really feel deserves the award.

such as when r68? Who didn't you want to win!

One example- Last year I voted for McDormand because I didn't want Carey Mulligan to win, and I felt like McDormand could go along with a Nomadland sweep. Of the five nominees, I thought Vanessa Kirby was the best of the lot (my personal choice - in a weak year- was Diane Lane in Let Him Go, but she wasn't nominated), but I knew she had no chance of winning, so voting for her would have been a waste of a vote.

The year before I thought Adam Driver gave the best lead actor performance for Marriage Story, but I voted for Joaquin Phoenix. Phoenix should have been nominated for several other performances and (IMO) won a couple times, so I felt he was very overdue, and he gave a deserving performance in Joker, I just thought Driver was better. But I'd rather see Phoenix with an Oscar.

I don't always vote that way (and certainly not for every category) but these days I would rather vote strategically than head in the clouds. And since I'm not part of the actors branch, I don't get to help determine the nominees, even in a small way.

Also have to say I loathe the (up to) 10 Best Picture expansion.

She already had one Oscar. I'm not losing any sleep about this.

Fuck you, r70. Carey Mulligan have THE outstanding performance last year. Why on earth didn’t you want her to win? She deserved it.

"Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore" has a great cast, although Kristofferson can't do much with his lame role and Alfred Lutter is right out of a bad sit-com. Lelia Goldini, Diane Ladd, Billy "Green" Bush, Harvey Keitel, and Burstyn are terrific. Most Scorsese movies were well-cast and acted until DiCaprio caught his eye...

Scorsese lost it after Goodfellas, and maybe made two watchable films since then.

Casino is watchable as f.

All of the DiCaprio films suck. Because he sucks.

The Departed, Shutter Island, and The Wolf of Wall Street are great films.

Killers of the Flower Moon will likely be great too. DL’s hatred for Leo will probably inspire a million threads about how awful and boring it is whenever it releases tho.

R77 Forgot to mention I’m rooting for Lily Gladstone to win Best Actress next year.

Agree that Casino is one of the films I meant. But it suffers only in that it's a total Goodfellas retread. I think it stands on its own, but at the time it was a real head scratcher as to why Scorsese covered such similar territory in much the same way, and so soon after. I do think that in the ensuing 25+ years, Casino has earned a reputation that's allowed it to separate itself from Goodfellas.

I really enjoyed Hugo, even though I suspect it would suffer from a 2nd viewing. However, Scorsese managed to get a good performance out of Asa Butterfield, who normally can't act for shit.

Other than those two, I have pretty much hated or was bored by every Scorsese movie after Goodfellas.

I won’t watch Goodfellas but I love Casino.

Ellen was great in Resurrection (1980). She was Oscar-nominated for it.

I was fascinated by Resurrection as young gayling discovering HBO.

I was fascinated by sexy Sam Shepard in "Resurrection".

My choice will always be Laura Linney that year.

R78 Her part has size or possible gravitas in the thing?

They were rewarding the modern movie star. Barbara Streisand was never the kind of box office star Julia Roberts was. It was a great performance. But she was going to win regardless. She's made billions of dollars to her industry.

R67,

I'm a writer. You?

Note: Why didn't you want Carey Mulligan to win last year? I like McDormand a lot but didn't feel like she deserved to win for Three Billboards, so definitely didn't think a third Oscar was necessary for Nomadland. But she won with the film that had momentum, and that's how that often goes. Agree with you that Kirby was great, but I heard such terrible stories about her from friends during her run at the National Theatre during Miss Julie, so I was not in a generous mood to give her a vote quite yet.

How the fuck did Juliette Binoche get nominated for that piece of shit called Chocolat?

Burstyn had an antagonistic relationship with the academy in the 70s. I don't know if that carried over to 2000. She was critical of them, didn't show up for her Alice win (was in a play on Broadway but they offered to cancel it for her but she said no; tried to get the Best Actress category banned in 1975 because of no good nominees in her opinion.)

She was seen as a bit of a pest at the time so if those voters were still alive in 2000 there was no rush to give her a second Oscar.

r88 two words Harvey Weintsein

(she didn't even win the Globe for Comedy. Renee Zellweger (Nurse Betty) beat her and should have got her nomination at the Oscars too.)

[quote] Note: Why didn't you want Carey Mulligan to win last year? I like McDormand a lot but didn't feel like she deserved to win for Three Billboards, so definitely didn't think a third Oscar was necessary for Nomadland. But she won with the film that had momentum, and that's how that often goes. Agree with you that Kirby was great, but I heard such terrible stories about her from friends during her run at the National Theatre during Miss Julie, so I was not in a generous mood to give her a vote quite yet.

I'm not the person who asked what branch you were in (but I am the guy who made the Carey Mulligan comment). I'm in the doc branch.

I absolutely loathed Promising Young Woman. I thought it was horribly written and directed even worse. Everything about it screamed bad student film. The cinematography was hideous, the art direction was awful, and Fennell had no fucking clue where she should put her camera. I don't know who was running the show on that set, but if they were giving Fennell free rein, it showed. All of that lent itself to both the role and performance of Carey Mulligan to be dragged down with it. I've seen many a film I've hated but where a performance has stood out and deserved to be rewarded, but Mulligan was unable to rise above the dreck. When she first burst onto the scene, she was very good. I thought she gave two wonderful performances in a row in "An Education" and "Never Let Me Go," but after that she seemed to completely recede into the background and she barely makes an impression on film. She's like a more talented Maggie Gyllenhaal. I don't know what happened, but for me, she's just a complete cipher.

As for McDormand, I wouldn't have even nominated her last year if I was making those choices. Nomadland left me super cold and the only good thing about it was Charlene Swankie's performance. I would have given her the Oscar for Supporting Actress (again in a very weak year), but McDormand did nothing for me. I only voted for her because I thought she had the best chance to defeat Mulligan. The thought of PYW getting any Oscar was just too much. Unfortunately, they gave it the screenplay award, and I voted for Sound of Metal there because I thought it was the best and I knew PYW was so far ahead of the pack that nothing was going to beat it, so there was no point in voting strategically.

I wouldn't have given it to McDormand for Three Billboards, but I thought she at least deserved the nomination. My pick (again) was not nominated (Florence Pugh for Lady Macbeth) but I didn't mind McDormand winning, as I thought she was due for a 2nd Oscar. But of the five, I voted for Margot Robbie.

P91,

I voted for Margot Robbie that year as well.

People don't realize that we voters often vote defensively if there are people we don't like who might end up winning and we want to boost their best opposition. I try not to do that, but it happens, especially when there's a category where my favorites are not even nominated.

r67 here

I'm not in show biz, just a fan. Love hearing the voting stories.

Who did people vote for the year Regina King won supporting? that was such a nothing performance. I wish Colman had been in Supporting instead of Emma Stone and Close and Colman both could have won.

Best Actress is hard this year. So far I don't like any of them! (didn't see Cruz yet.)

R93,

You'll like Cruz. She's far and away the best of this year's nominees.

I agree with you re: Regina King. She was fine in the film, but there just wasn't that much to the part. She won because it was a weak year for that category, and I think the two ladies from The Favourite canceled each other out. I voted for Rachel Weisz. (Emma Stone was the lead. Again, I hate that kind of category gaming.) Emily Blunt might have won for A Quiet Place had she been nominated. She won the SAG. And her part could possibly be considered supporting. Maybe.

I voted for Emma Stone that year even though I agree she was a lead, and that's the category I would have put her in. It was her story, not Colman's. And I knew no one could beat King, so there was nothing strategic to be done.

Honestly, I could not find five supporting actress performances that year worthy of nominating. I remember that year thinking the deaf girl from A Quiet Place was wonderful. And if someone would have twisted my arm, I'd have tossed Olivia Colman into supporting (where she belonged), even though I thought she was incredibly overrated.

And I thought many performances from If Beale Street Could Talk should have been nominated. In fact, I thought the entire main cast EXCEPT for Regina King should have been up. Stephan James and Kiki Layne for lead actor and actress, both Colman Domingo and Bryan Tyree Henry for supporting actor, and Teyonah Parris for supporting actress. King (someone I'd been a fan of for many years) ranged from nothing special to downright awful. Parris did more with her underwritten role in a couple scenes than King did the entire movie.

I agreed 100% with the choice of Mahershala Ali for Green Book. I was someone who was baffled by his Oscar for Moonlight. I would have given Best Supporting Actor to Moonlight, but for Trevante Rhodes' performance, not Ali's. But I thought he was incredible in Green Book.

But don't you think Ali in Green Book was category fraud too?

He holds the record now for most screen time to win best supporting actor.

My feeling for Green Book was that it was Tony Lip's story, not Don Shirley's. Not that they didn't go into Shirley's story at all, but Shirley supported Lip. That being said, I wouldn't have argued if Ali had been placed in lead, (and would have been thrilled to see him take the award from the truly wretched Rami Malek) but I felt he was justified for being in supporting.

With The Favourite, it was Emma Stone's character's story, not the Queen's. They should have totally switched categories (and given boring Rachel Weisz the heave ho.)

Ellen's 1984 film The Ambassador is now on Hulu! It's so schlocky, a real curio. Robert Mitchum is the title character, with Rock Hudson in his last theatrical film, and with gorgeous Fabio Testi (now 81 years old). Fabio fucks Ellen, with Ellen totally topless at age 50!

Anyone who votes for Penelope Cruz as the year's best actress knows nothing about acting.

Anyone who votes for Penelope Cruz as this year's best actress knows nothing about acting. Her perfomance belongs to a telenovela. Imagine having the audacity to film a birthing scene wearing false eyelashes. it's really an ordinary performance and people want to look cool by rewarding it, like the critics groups that awarded her this year and clueless Venice jurors. Even Lady Gaga was more interesting and fun.

Voting for the Oscars (winners) begins March 17. How can the supposed Oscar voter have already filled his ballot?

There are (at least) two AMPAS members on here. And no one has mentioned actually having voted for Penelope Cruz.

Re Ellen Burstyn showing her tits at 50, When she was in her late 30s, she went full frontal in the movie Tropic of Cancer in 1970.

[quote] There are (at least) two AMPAS members on here

There are at least two people who SAY they’re AMPAS members. Of course, we have no real way to know if they’re telling the truth. I mean, I could tell you who I voted for the year Olivia Colman won, and who’s to say I wasn’t telling the truth?

[quote] There are at least two people who SAY they’re AMPAS members. Of course, we have no real way to know if they’re telling the truth. I mean, I could tell you who I voted for the year Olivia Colman won, and who’s to say I wasn’t telling the truth?

R103 And had lice in her pussy. The fucking DVD doesn't show that bit the the VHS release did.

Was "Chocolat" a Miramax film? The creepy Weinstein can be the only reason La Binoche and Dame Judi were both nominated for what was just a big budget Lifetime movie.

I liked Linney and Allen and I actually thought both Burstyb and "Requiem for a Dream" were rather overrated. Julia of course delivered a great movie star performance. I watched "Erin Brockovich" again a couple of years ago and I thought Julia's portrayal actually holds up. She manages the balancing act well by delivering her one liners and putdowns sharply enough to get the laughs but without turning EB into a complete caricature, winking at the audience, that someone like Bette Midler might have done.

While she's not anyone's idea of a great thespian Julia did light up the screen and give a very charismatic performance. Many worse choices such as Emma Stone, Sandra Bullock, Meryl (for her Maggie Thatcher as a drag queen with dementia role), Halle Berry and Madam Witherspoon have been awarded Oscars. I thought Roberts was far better playing a much more memorable character in a reasonably good film.

Albert Finney not winning the Oscar for EB was a travesty though. The man inhabited the Ed Masry character so naturally that I forgot I was watching an actor play a role.

"That's just you lady! Two wrong feet in fucking ugly shoes"

She looked good that night, robbed or not.

This thread made me take a look at Burstyn’s IMDb page, and reminded me of when she earned an Emmy nomination for a 14 second performance. Her reaction was fantastic:

[quote] I thought it was fabulous. My next ambition is to get nominated for seven seconds, and, ultimately, I want to be nominated for a picture in which I don't even appear.

R109- She had gotten a facelift not long before. She looked better than she ever has! Beautiful.

Roberts played a version of herself, as she has done in all her roles.

RFAD is one of those movies that I never want to view again. It was actually a toned-down adaptation of the Selby novel, same as Last Exit to Brooklyn. Selby's novels were vicious and I was surprised they were considered filmable.

[quote]Ellen's 1984 film The Ambassador is now on Hulu! It's so schlocky, a real curio. Robert Mitchum is the title character, with Rock Hudson in his last theatrical film, and with gorgeous Fabio Testi (now 81 years old). Fabio fucks Ellen, with Ellen totally topless at age 50!

I know, never heard of it but I happened to turn it on and couldn't look away.

So Ellen has showed her tits and her pussy. What’s left for her at 90? Senior sex on screen?

Senior sex with Pazuzu in the new Exorcist trilogy?

I think it would be a neat twist if Ellen played Mrs. Pazuzu in the new Exorcist trilogy!

Ellen was good in the 1987 TV movie Pack of Lies with DL faves Teri Garr and Alan Bates. It's on YouTube.

I was Ellen’s daughter in her TV show!

And you were a mouthy cunt back then.

She’s still a mouthy cunt.

R101,

I'm one of the AMPAS voters. I've not filled out my ballot yet. I was just telling whoever asked who I was planning to vote for. I still have a few movies to see for some of the categories, but at this point I've seen most of the nominees in most of the categories, so I know who's getting my vote.

Fake AMPAS voters are the scourge of DL!

No, you're not R122, You're just another cray-cray looking for validation on the internet, but your lies are transparent. "I'm one of the AMPAS voters."- sure Jan...

This R124 to R122

Ellen was in A Dream of Passion (1978), with Melina Mercouri and filmed in Greece. Ellen plays an American women who murders her children and is later interviewed by Melina, playing an actress who is performing in Medea (ancient play in which the title character murders *her* children). This film is now rare and unavailable on DVD, and not streamable. I have an old VHS copy. :)

Here you go, R126.

Without gaga in the mix, I really don’t care.

Well Carey Mulligan has won so many times already...when does someone else get a chance?

R124,

Believe what you want to. Of course there are AMPAS voters on here. You don't think we like to gossip too?

Moreover, you can choose not to believe my post, but my votes are counted and included. And that's all that matters.

I'm not a SAG voter. How about that? Does that make you feel better?