Tasteful Friends: Cielo Drive

I dislike it less than I thought I would.

I dont exactly like it, and its far too big, and fairly tacky, but I've seen much worse. The bones actually arent too bad and with nice traditional decor it could be quite acceptable

10050 Cielo Drive...Terry Melcher home, guess who was murdered there in 1969.

Vulgar and tasteless

Too big and that furniture is hideous. Is this property significant in some way and who is Jeff Franklin?

I'm not superstitious but having a house on the site of one of the most famous mass-murders in LA history is creepy, besides the house is hideous compared to what was there

Oh, that property!!! Yikes.

Garish. Plus, the grounds are not all that.

^ Love the lightbulb flashing above your head, Lol :)

I had to Google "Jeff Franklin" - turns out he is the producer of Full House

Once I saw his photo, the house made sense.

That is some serious male plastic surgery and hair

^ Meant for r7

The original house was charming.

This is your typical mob-money dump.

And given the history of the location, I would avoid it no matter what it looked like.

They can't give it away, much less sell it for that kind of money. It's vulgar, much like its owner.

Is this a Holiday Inn Express? Charm-free.

"It's monstrous, but not that bad!"

Are you schizophrenic, OP?

You were right the first time.

The views are amazing, mainly because the house isn’t them.

Looks like the lair of a Bond villain.

Utterly inappropriate both in style and size for that lot. Built by a Eurotrash wannabe.

The grounds are stunning. The pools and their link to each other . . . wow.

It is hideously tacky, oversized and overprized, which means that there already are several crime lords and Saudi princes desperate to get their blood-stained claws on it, so they can make it even worse.

This is what happens when people who don't have any taste whatsoever become wealthy. Extreme flashiness, gaudy vulgarity and lots of overblown pretentiousness.

So very tasteful…and right at optimal smog level.

I fucking love it!!! I would never leave the property.

Really ugly and an eyesore on the mountain.

I'll take the views and the pools. The rest of it is worthless garbage.

It’s beautiful. Don’t want to deal with the aquarium.

Sharon Tate and Libby Folger haunt a home a few doors down from the murder site on Cielo Drive.

Lotsa nice decorating ingrediences

"Libby Folger"

R26, her name was Abigail. Her nickname was Gibby.

"Sharon Tate and Libby Folger haunt a home a few doors down from the murder site on Cielo Drive. "

That's because they changed the address and they're confused...

Ghosts are so dumb

If you look closely, you can see Bob Hope's grandchild being taken around by Cheryl Ladd in the background with Max/Mary.

Why would ghosts haunt a home a few doors down? If they can leave the house where they were killed, you'd think they'd try somewhere more luxurious like the Spelling Manor.

Most of that 3.5 acres is vertical.

I'd raise goats and house angry old lesbians. With golf carts

@r30, "If you look closely, you can see Bob Hope's grandchild being taken around by Cheryl Ladd in the background with Max/Mary. "

I hear gimpy Ricardo Montalbán still roams Cielo Drive looking for his Chrysler Cordoba

The pool is spectacular. I'd love to see additional photos of the pool, terrace, and gardens.

There has to be so much more land out of frame to the right. I don't even know if the current house sits where the old house was. It may be the yard now. At least one of the old mature trees seems to remain.

Tacky Arabs.

Did Moe Howard live right below there? Does Dolly Parton still have that house several doors down?

All those rooms with the wide doors open for all the bugs to come inside! I know you can close them but still. I couldn’t imagine living in a house where you could have the entire living room, bathroom, and bedroom act like an outdoor patio where all the bugs and heat can come in!

^ California is not very buggy

"Did Moe Howard live right below there? Does Dolly Parton still have that house several doors down? "

Madonna still roams the streets looking for her youth

It looks like a large version of McMansions built by Texas Mexicans around San Antonio.

In the big 80's I use to house sit for a friend who had a house on Cielo right up the hill from Valentino's Falcon Layer around the corner from the Manson murder house. You do have "jetliner views " but once the sun goes down it gets really creepy really fast. Hard to believe you're in LA as you feel very isolated. I was siting in a bay window alcove when there was a loud bang. Saw blood splattered all over the window. Thought someone took a shot at me. It was a bird that flew into the glass. Happened all the time. Found a dead coyote in the pool. Spooky neighborhood.

R38 Just for you hon.

Serious question: why don’t celebrities live in reasonably sized homes anymore? It used to be the norm. Wasn’t Marilyn Monroe’s home just under 3000 square ft? And she was the biggest star of that era. Why is EVERYTHING so ruinous and soulless now?

R28. Thanks. I got it wrong. Gibbie was her nickname, not Libby. It is so sad and scary to hear the spirit voices in the video that I posted.

R39 Well, except for termites.

I always thought that house when Tate lived there was really nice. Too bad they built this monstrosity. It is ugly and doesn't go with the hillside.

[quote] Valentino's Falcon Layer

Oh, dear.

It looks like the inside of a Cheesecake Factory. Pass.

R49 Nailed it. Looks just like one.

It looks like the outside of a Cheesecake Factory too.

That is one fucking awful house. No one needs such excess.

My Nana built the original house for $20k which she earned as a bubble machine operator for Lawrence Welk, who lived two doors down next to Bob Hope. Once, when Junior Niven and Ricardo Montalban we’re playing volleyball in Cheryl Ladd’s pool, Ricardo’s leg fell off. Well, we all laughed and laughed until Cheryl’s dog ran off with it and buried it Nana’s rose garden. But that’s a story for another time.

I wuv Miss 53.

This should be turned into a retreat for abused women or other non profit. Otherwise, it's just an unholy monstrosity built from selfish greed. That bastard only bought this particular lot for it's future value. He didn't give a damn about the people who were slaughtered there. I saw photos of a big party Franklin thew at Cielo that was a 1960's theme. There was one pic of John Stamos with a woman who was dressed like Sharon Tate. Very poor taste.

Best scenario for Cielo would be natural disaster where no one gets hurt.

The cunt who designed this thing is Canadian Richard Landry, evidently known as "King of the Mega-mansion".

The house needs to be torn down like the Hadid monstrosity.

I don’t so much mind the house, but what’s up with all the subterranean levels under the driveway? It’s like a house with a Bond villain’s lair underneath on Levels B1 - B6.

Putting aside all bad karma, I can't imagine ever feeling comfortable there. You'd need guard dogs, guns and knives. Never knowing which lookie loos were Manson groupies. Which ones were mentally unstable. No thanks! Btw, that hillside looks quite easy to scale. Yikers.

The double decker parking structure is necessary due to lack of ground level space. I'm sure the massive amount of rebar/cement is also needed to support the mansion and the steep ledge it sits on. I noticed the guy has a full bar adjacent to the lower parking level. Less staggering to the car.

[quote] Madonna still roams the streets looking for her youths

Fixed that for you, r40.

I think there’s enough ground level square footage without the subterranean levels. They might be necessary to support the above ground structure, but it still seems tacky as hell.

Wow, when first coming upon r10, I thought: "what is a picture of kd lang doing in this thread?"

The people in 10048 Cielo Drive(twin house) will be crushed to powder if 10066/10050 does slide.

Is that a bidet right there in the foyer?

I will give them a little credit for having furniture that would be comfortable to sit on, although ugly.

A lot of asses have sat in it already. Franklin has been renting the place out for $250,000 per month.

Looks like a great location for a porno shoot and any neighbors with a good telescope can look right in

Weird thought. Sharon was feeding stray/feral cats that were present on the property. Do you think those feline's offspring could still be there fifty three years later?

Even a wealthy person would need to rent it out in order to pay taxes and maintenance/upkeep.

R68 it's a residential area, not a nature preserve.

WHET Total Coelo anyway.

"Do you think those feline's offspring could still be there fifty three years later? "

Nah, coyotes love to eat cats

Looks very dated and the lack of barrier at the edge of the garden is scary.

That insufferable property agent is a hilarious LA bro caricature. Can you imagine spending an hour listening to that self-important schmuck?!

[quote]I hear gimpy Ricardo Montalbán

The dude had a pronounced limp so I'm not sure why that, of all the crazy things MaryMax said, has stuck in everyone's craw. That was one of the few things she got right! She looked it up on Wikipedia and used it as one of the truths to scatter among her tall tales, to make everything sound more legitimate.

I like that some of the ceilings and archways and such are callbacks to actual old 1920s-1930s LA properties, but I remember seeing this guy talking about his house for years, going on ghost hunting shows and pretending like it was haunted, just to generate interest. I'd avoid giving this guy a dime just on general principle.

@r75, "That was one of the few things she got right! "

It said one leg was 6"-8" shorter than the other. Did it get that right as well?

No idea, r77. He got the limp while filming Across the Wide Missouri, just Google it. MaryMax said the limp was an injury, but also a deformed back. The injury was right, the latter part was wrong, and probably based on Montalban's spinal issues, which were publicized, but didn't occur until the 2000s.

It's like the whole thing about Bob Hope's house, she was really talking about Allen Questrom's old house on Oriole Way but said it was Hope's, and got about 50% of the facts about the house right, the other 50% wrong. She did that with everything.

[quote] Madonna still roams the streets looking for her youths

Madonna purchases all her loved ones abroad.

@r78, 50% is a total fail in anyone's book

That house is the epitome of something someone who didn't come from money but ended up with unlimited funds would build. Gaudy, over the top, slap you in the face "don't you wish you were me, I know I would?".

^ A poor man's idea of a rich man's house

Looks like a mosque on the outside, and a slightly upmarket nursing home on the inside.

It's fit for a Kardashian.

The original house on the property, the one where Tate and co. were slaughtered, was built by a French actress named Michele Morgan in the 1940s. It was Morgan's dream house and she planned to live there for a long time but moved out after only about 2 years because of strange happenings. Voices could be heard in the living room, and shadows that looked like people could be seen outside, moving past the windows. Morgan always felt uncomfortable in the house and couldn't remain there so she moved.

Is Cielo Dr. a cul-de-sac?

JESUS CHRIST!!!

[quote] According to the Los Angeles Times, Morgan paid $32,000 (equivalent to $0.47 million by 2020).

.47 million for a house in the Hills. Imagine

The ceilings are so low in the dining room - it’s so cramped for such a large piece of crap.

[quote]The original house on the property, the one where Tate and co. were slaughtered, was built by a French actress named Michele Morgan in the 1940s

Strange, but true:

The original house at 10050 Cielo Drive was designed by renowned L.A. architect Robert Byrd (known for his rustic, ranch-style homes).

The house at 5065 Encino Ave -- site of the Phil & Brynn Hartman murder/suicide -- was designed by his son, Gary Byrd. (It was built 1980-81; the Hartmans were not the first owners)