The OFFICIAL DL Winter Olympics thread!

Fuck that, I wanna see the mins. And the mins skiing.

I'm boycotting the Chinese communists and their slave camps and the U.S. corporations who enable them.

Every event is now biathlon. There will be shooters aimed at the skiers, skaters, lugers, curlers, bobsledders, etc. The shooter who hits the most targets wins! Exciting.

I wanna see the mens speed skating! Those legs!! 🤤

We already lost 3 potential gold medals in nordic combined because the best athlete in the world, who happens to be Norwegian, just tested positive. The Olympics is a fucking joke.

R5, I suspect the Chinese test results get pre-approved by the CCP before release. Do you think the Chinese are going to let a little thing like a positive test keep one of their star athletes out of the games?

We already lost 2 of 3 matches in mixed curling, despite the Norwegian team being the second best ranked team in the world. This is depressing.

What hotties should we be looking out for?

Nobody should be at the CHINESE Olympics right now. Fuck that country!

Men’s figure skating team event short program starts tonight at 8:55 pm EST. Ladies and pairs SP team event is on 2/5…

Does anyone watch team figure skating? It’s just a warm up to the individual and pairs competitions.

For some skaters, it's their only realistic shot at a medal.

I hate NBC for this political shit. Are we not able to escape from it ever? Just let us watch sports and enjoy.

way to open Olympic coverage, NBC. Discussion about what a terrible country China is. They wouldn't have dared do it had the games been in Russia. Fuck politics.

Yes, Americans, we told you want a terrible country China is, so go out and attack Asian=Americans, Chinese or not. After all, they all look alike. We have just given you permission. BTW, stay tuned for Nathen Chen.

I'm not thrilled with China hosting these games, but apparently nobody else wanted them except for Almaty, Kazakhstan (and that country is a bit of a shitshow at the moment). I'm curious about the Opening Ceremonies though, and I'll watch figure skating just for the hell of it.

Lipinski is wearing a prom dress.

Oh, Johnny, elegant and over-the-top as always.

Love him, though.

She is wearing a prom dress.

What in the hell does Lipsinka have to do with figure skating? Do all the other out male figure skaters have a famous female illusionist on their arm? I'm concerned about China's crackdown on effeminacy. Will they be safe?

ROC Boyz

Nathan Chen, awesome

I’ll be the first, I guess.

How can this be live??

What time is it over there?

Beijing time = 11 am Friday

The USA women's hockey team beat Finland this morning in convincing fashion. But lost one of their biggest stars in a pretty horrific injury. The broadcast picked up her screams of pain.

The Canadian womens hockey team lost one of their players, too. She practically got knocked out in a game, had to be helped off.

Nathan Chen is hot.

That Olympics/Jurassic Park commercial was wack.

"That's an aggressive start there, Tanith"

Vancouver Olympics: does anyone remember how Johnny and Evan refused to share the double room, so Johnny roomed with Tanith while Evan took the single?

"I didn't think it was allowable to stay with a girl," Weir said. "Tanith and I just seemed we would be a perfect match. We're old friends.

"I don't really get along with that many people on the team. I don't know that many people on the team well enough to live with, anyway. Tanith is definitely No. 1 for me."

"I was only in my room about five minutes, but it smells amazing," Belbin said yesterday of the male skater's advance decorating. "Johnny said it did not [smell good before]. He said it smelled like wet dogs.

"It's beautiful. There are aromatic candles, and he had Audrey Hepburn posters and motivational quotes on the wall. And in the bedroom, he put away all my clothes. ... He told me he didn't have time to find Cher [posters]. But he hoped to be able to get out and shop for those later."

[quote] way to open Olympic coverage, NBC. Discussion about what a terrible country China is. [b]They wouldn't have dared do it had the games been in Russia[/b]. Fuck politics.

r14 These social-justice-concerned people have another thing in common: Always go silent or never have the same hysterical zeal for stuff produced by Islamic countries like Qatar World Cup 2022 (I know Americans are not into soccer but the same goes for other Western SJWs).

Good start for the US in Team Figure Skating.

I loved the Rhythm Dancing. I wasn't as excited about the Olympics leading up, but now that they are here I love watching. Also live tweeting can be fun to see what others are saying.

Has Gus Kenworthy slept with the entire male half of the Olympic village yet?

I tuned in this morrow for some curling action--saw some hot dad bods on the Norway vs. Canada doubles. Shuffleboard on ice--these dudes must be homos.

ABCNews:

The FBI issued a stern warning for U.S. Olympic athletes traveling to Beijing for the Winter Olympics: keep your personal cellphones at home and use a burner phone.

Women's singles figure skating TV schedule:

Tuesday February 15

Women's short program: LIVE at 5:00 AM on USA channel , ON TAPE at 8:00 PM on NBC

Thursday February 17

Women's long program: LIVE at 5:00 AM on USA channel, ON TAPE at 8:00 PM on NBC

4 out of the 6 best nordic combined athletes have tested positive. Fucking insane. This is turning into a joke. What's the point of the Olympics if all the best athletes can't compete? Like I said, we already potentially lost out on 3 gold medals in nordic combined because Riiber is positive. And we potentially lost a gold in cross country skiing because Krüger is positive. Fucking ridiculous.

You can also see the women's short program on Wednesday February 16 at 2:00 AM on NBC, and the long program on Friday February 18 at 2:30 AM on NBC.

Calm down granny R37

R39 Fuck off. Your country didn't potentially lose out on 4 gold medals.

What a wonderful celebration of world harmony!

Nathan is a stud. Lucky Amber Glenn. She got some of that hot ass before she turned lesbian.

All of the best non-Chinese athletes will suddenly test positive. China will win it all!

Have the Olympics already started? The opening ceremony hasn’t even taken place yet right?

I'm signing up for Peacock just for the opening and closing ceremonies. The venues look amazing.

Bummer, that the parade of athletes everyone is wearing a mask! One of my favorite times to watch the olympics is to see the gorgeous hot men strutting into the stadiums for both the winter and summer games.. Always amazes me, just how many incredible looking men from nearly all the countries competing!....and yes, pretty females too...

I'm an Eileen Gu fan!

I didn't wake up in time to catch the parade of nations at the OC. I just saw the last part, followed by the glum political person that NBC had on after the lighting of the torch.

R48.... NBC is going to show the opening again tonight (friday)...

Amber Glenn likes the ladies? I'm here for that...

R44 The competitions started earlier this week, the opening ceremony was today and will be shown on tape tonight at 8 PM on NBC.

Beijing will go down in history as the worst Olympics ever.... fake snow, cold as fuck, no spectators, lots of athletes testing positive and having their olympics ruined, wind conditions are horrible too. Not to mention you can't say shit about China without risking prison. We are just supposed to forget the violation of human rights and the genocide of the uigur people. The Chinese people don't have freedom of speech. Everyone should have boicotted, inlcuding Norway. I won't be too sad if corona fucks us in the ass. We have already lost two of our best athletes and now the athletes who are negative will compete in horrible conditions.

R50, Amber Glenn is an out bisexual.

And Beijing had the gall to include the song "IMAGINE" during the opening ceremony???!!!

It’s impossible to watch this crap knowing there are millions of citizens in torture camps just off the frame.

Everything there is staged and everything is just a prop. Everything there is just so fake!

You know Tonya Harding's got husself an 8 ball, a bottle of Jack, and some killer weed, as she laughs her ass off at the lack of drama. "I put the fucking Winter Olympics on THE MAP!"

Wasn't Chicago sore about not getting the Olympics some years back? I don't know why they don't put in a bid for the 2030 Winter Games -- seeing as how nobody wants to host anymore, they're certain to get them.

I can't believe Riiber is straight...AND married! That's one of the gayest-looking faces I've ever seen. He definitely looks like he smells freshly baked sandkaker.

Tonya Harding is still alive R56? Probably in a trailer somewhere in one of the shithole states.

r53 The literal violence. She's PAN, not bi.

[quote] Wasn't Chicago sore about not getting the Olympics some years back?

I seem to recall the right wing lunatics cheering on when Chicago lost out on the Olympics. You know, because it was the hometown of President Obama.

Without covid this would be Norway’s celebration from the start.

R52 you’re complaining that it’s cold at the Winter Olympics?

R55, here’s more on the Uighur situation.

R57 Salt Lake City is in the running to host either in 2030 or 2034.

GHIY-NA!!!!

This is going to be even weirder and more depressing than Sochi and Tokyo--pandemic and authoritarianism all in one.

That said, last night was good for American figure skating fans. Nathan skated beautifully, not just capably, but with some actual elegance. He's never going to have the fluidity of Yuzuru Hanyu, but some of those quads just seemed to float. Hubbell/Donohue then had one of their "on" performances. It was nice to see them beat the overscored Russians. Knierem/Frazier holding on to third was also good. Really wasn't expecting the U.S. to even look like they were in contention for Gold. I'm still quite sure Russia will end up with it, but a solid Silver would be a nice win for the U.S. and that's looking doable.

Also nice is that the two leading American ice dance teams--Chock/Bates and Hubbell/Donohue said early on that they wanted both teams to compete in the team event. Unlike the bitchy Shib Sibs who petitioned to be the only dance team last time and iced out Hubbell/Donohue who were the U.S. champs at the time and a better team than the Shibutanis. This way, barring a crazy level of disaster (or COVID) both C/B and H/D will have Olympic medals to finish their careers.

Guess Karen Chen will be skating for the Ladies portion as Mariah Bell and Alyssa Liu have both had to recover from COVID and Liu has lost her triple axel. Bell was kind of an idiot at Nationals--after she won, she was doing meet and greets with fans in violation of the protocols. Hopefully, Karen C. will have one of her "on" performances and won't underrotate too much.

(And it would be nice if the figure-skating thread wasn't locked.)

R61, probably a good thing in the end for Chicago. The Olympics, summer or winter, are bloated events that cost a city, and governments at all levels in the host country, a ton of money. And they often leave behind white elephant infrastructure like the now unused buildings built for the Olympics in Athens in 2004 and Rio in 2016.

The Olympics seemed like they were becoming something that only countries ruled by strongmen who don't have checks on their spending could afford (Putin for Sochi in 2014, Xi in Beijing in 2022) However, Paris in 2024, Milan/Cortina* in 2026, Los Angeles in 2028, and Brisbane in 2032 are committed to hosting future editions. At least with Paris and LA there is already substantial sports infrastructure so they don't have to build too many new facilities. Same with Salt Lake City if it hosts the winter games in either 2030 or 2034.

*Cortina is in a gorgeous part of Italy. Totally worth visiting the area if you ever get a chance.

So just started watching the ceremony.

Anything I should keep,an eye out for?

The Jamaicans !!!!

Woohoo

Trump must be pissed. The two great dictators are there -Putin and Xi Jinping are both there. He's foaming that he can't be with his heroes, instead of being a loser. They are probably laughing at him.

[QUOTE] Chock/Bates and Hubbell/Donohue said early on that they wanted both teams to compete in the team event. Unlike the bitchy Shib Sibs who petitioned to be the only dance team last time and iced out Hubbell/Donohue who were the U.S. champs at the time and a better team than the Shibutanis.

Oooh, I did not know that juicy bit of gossip. I never liked the Shibs. There’s always something off about sibling dance or pair teams.

The Rock is looking mummified in this Winter Olympic commercial.

American Samoa steps in to give us a hot oiled up athlete to replace the Tongan guy who had to stay home because of the volcano/tsunami.

Bobsledders are the hottest.

Why is Team USA always wearing such dowdy and uninspiring Olympic uniforms?

^ What do you expect from Ralph Lauren?

R77, true.

And oh my, what is Team Italy wearing?

Have Papadakis and Cizeron performed yet? The coverage in my country is very scattered and only the US team is on YouTube.

This Olympics has a dark vibe, with Putin showing up and being feted by Xi while massing troops and weapons on Ukraine’s borders, and of course everyone on edge about Covid (in the country where the virus originated.) And athletes being told to bring burner phones because China spies on and monitors everyone.. I heard they have all been told to assume their rooms are bugged too. China is truly evil.

The dark vibe isn’t helped by the venues being comprised of fake snow, surrounded by brown snowless hills.

Beijing is very cold in Winter but it’s in the middle of the driest zone in China.

The laser ice cube thing that listed all the previous winter olympics was pretty cool.

I was curious as to why Beijing was holding the 2022 olympics and which cities they beat out! the information down below is very telling! the IOC is a piece of shit organization too!......

The bidding calendar was announced by the IOC (International Olympic Committee) in October 2012, with the application deadline set for 14 November 2013. The IOC Executive Board reviewed the bids from all applicant cities on 7 July 2014 and selected three cities, Oslo (Norway), Almaty (Kazakhstan) and Beijing (China), as the final candidates.[6]

Several Olympic committees withdrew their applications during the bidding process, citing the high costs or the lack of local support and funding for hosting the Games.[7] The Norwegian Olympic and Paralympic Committee and Confederation of Sports which had proposed hosting the games in Oslo, which had been considered the clear frontrunner, withdrew after its application to the Norwegian parliament for funding of the proposed Olympics was rejected. Public reception to the Olympic movement's application for funding had been highly negative due to cost concerns after the cost overruns of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, and especially revelations about a series of hospitality-related demands that the IOC had reportedly made. The demands notably included "diva-like demands for luxury treatment" for the IOC members themselves, such as special lanes on all roads only to be used by IOC members and cocktail reception at the Royal Palace with drinks paid for by the royal family. The IOC also "demanded control over all advertising space throughout Oslo" to be used exclusively by IOC's sponsors, something that is not possible in Norway because Norway is a liberal democracy where the government doesn't own or control "all advertising space throughout Oslo" and has no authority to give a foreign private organization exclusive use of a city and the private property within it.[8] Several commentators pointed out that such demands were unheard of in a western democracy; Slate described the IOC as a "notoriously ridiculous organization run by grifters and hereditary aristocrats."[9][10][11][12]

Beijing was selected as the host city of the 2022 Winter Olympics after beating Almaty by four votes on 31 July 2015 at the 128th IOC Session in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

Why was that asshole Putin sitting by himself?

It was funny to see, actually. Ping seemed by himself as well.

Fucking assholes, the both of them.

There is a Holocaust in China. BOYCOTT.

And more particularly why was Putin there at all? Russian athletes are only able to compete for ROC (Russian Olympic Committee) due to Russia’s appalling track record with PEDs, rather than under the Russian flag.

Tried to watch all the opening ceremonies of the Olympics in the past several decades.

Have to say, this was the worst one I’ve seen. After living in China, the perfectionistic, coordinated movements of their groups were not evident in the choreographed dances: they were sloppy and all over the place. The bird’s nest stadium was unattractive with a bunch of techno, tacky light shows.

It apparently was freezing cold.* They showed clips of Putin in the stands sleeping during the parade of countries (but of course standing for the “ROC” - not even officially recognized as Russia because they cheated.)

Lastly, Savannah Guthrie announced they had been informed by China that the lighting of the Olympic cauldron would produce something so unique and unprecedented in the 100+ year history of the modern Olympics. But basically, the flame lighter was just placed in the center of a giant snowflake. It was a nothing burger and we found it hugely unappealing and kept waiting for something....anything....else to occur.

The only thing that was (in)flamed was the big metaphorical finger to the world when China had a minority athlete (that is reportedly persecuted in the country) place the flame stick in the ugly snowflake.

I feel for the athletes that have this as their Olympic experience.

R86, the whole situation with the Russian athletes is idiotic. If the IOC wants to make a statement re: flagrant cheating/doping, ban their athletes. Not this stupid slap on the wrist of "Olympic athletes representing Russia."

I think people need to cut China some slack. They’re only imprisoning the weaker Muslims, not the stronger ones.

So sickeningly sweet—children and snowflakes. I can’t believe putting the runner’s torch in a snowflake is what they had planned for the flame. So bleh.

I was downright shocked during the kids’ segment with the light up birds. Several of the children were wearing lipstick and looked like whores!

Also, the floor as display thing might have been impressive in the stadium, but it didn’t really come across on TV because we’re used to digital special effects on TV.

Hot curler Oskar Eriksson will get a gold for Sweden in mixed doubles.

2 gold medals today! YAAAAS! Great start to the Olympics.

Too much wind. They couldn't even finish the training for the downhill race. Beijiing never should have gotten the Olympics.

There's an Olympics?

Therese Johaug will win everything. Once again.

[quote] Why is Team USA always wearing such dowdy and uninspiring Olympic uniforms?

The best fashion revealed.

Michael Kors gives his opinion of the proposed US Olympic outfits designed by Ralph Lauren.

[quote]So just started watching the ceremony. Anything I should keep,an eye out for?

The NBC analyst saying that the horrific treatment of the minority Uyghur population by the Chinese government is only alleged.

R100, the link below is no doubt biased, but this is how the situation is described by Chinese media, in detail.

Aww, sorry to read that, RE: Covid issues Norwegian. I enjoy your excitement on these threads when your countrymen do well, it's lively and charming.

just bring on the men of luge and bobsled already! and in future olympics, make the male speed skaters have to wear super short spandex shorts! laugh!....

Happy for you Norwegian.

There are some cute twinks in the ski jumping competition.

R93, I hope you are correct that Oskar will win, but he's going to have to do it on his own because his partner is fairly horrible. She also really screwed up last year and cost them the world championship gold as well. He needs to find a better partner. Besides being hot as hell he is fantastic at what he does and should have his pick of a partner. He has the best profile ever.

Ralph Lauren always dresses Team USA like a bunch of dowdy suburban fraus headed to Costco on Saturday in their ginormous SUVs.

They should take the contract away from Ralphie. Have a competition. Not on Project Runway.

All the bulging spandex packages in luge are being shown on USA network right now. Chris Mazdzer soon.

For the love of god, will Ralph Lauren's contract with Team USA ever end? There are tiny countries with a fraction of our wealth who manage to dress their athletes better.

The Italians wore Emporio Armani in the opening ceremony. The result is, um, interesting.

Boring as they were, the US uniforms were better than the French and Italians.

^Italy, Germany, the US had the worst Opening Ceremonies uniforms.

R111, oh yeah, the French were forgettable as well.

No—the worst were all the countries with long white coats and the Aussies who went with jungle camouflage.

[quote] just bring on the men of luge and bobsled already! and in future olympics, make the male speed skaters have to wear super short spandex shorts! laugh!....

Make the male figure skaters only wear dance belts.

Proposed hockey uniforms.

After 1 full day of competition, zero medals for the United States. Norway out to an early lead as usual.

The autonomous bullet train to the venues is amazing. The robots are cool, too.

Crazy stuff.

Don’t be silly, r119.

Some of these sports are both boring and mesmerizing to watch at the same time. #Luge #SkiJumping

So the lady speed-skaters didn’t seem to have the huge thighs and behinds that characterize their sport.

Haven’t seen the men yet…

🤔🤔

What happens to the host country athletes that don’t being home the gold.

I shudder to think.

I'm watching tape delayed cross country skiing on the BBC!

Here are the legs of a Danish speed skater.

Was enjoying watching the cross country skiing. Then they did a twenty minute PSA on how the American persevered despite suffering from an eating disorder. Stunning and bravely of course.

As if I give a fuck about that.

More sports, please.

Why did we send prissy, needy, ugly Jason Brown instead of a skater who can do a quad and at least have a shot at ending up in the top five?

He'll stumble all over the ice and fall down like he always does - artistic my ass.

That’s pretty horrific, actually, R126. 😱😳

Have we won anything yet?

[quote]After 1 full day of competition, zero medals for the United States.

The US has a good chance of getting a medal in tonight's womens slopestyle snowboarding.

The long track speed skaters are so fit. I was just watching the womens 3000m... while wearing a bathrobe and eating brownies.

The US definitely doesnt dominate like they do in the summer games.

norway, germany and canada led the medal table in korea.

R132 Might as well just call it the White Peoples’ Olympics.

Is it anyone's fault that the countries and people that mostly do these snow/ice sports are white? Btw theres many good asian countries too.

R134, yes, you would expect northern European countries to do well. But it's also true that winter sports tend to be $$$-intensive.

One of the US snowboarders is from Westport, CT. Tell me you're rich without telling me you're rich.

Those legs at R126 are off the chart. Wow. He has a cute face as well.

R135 true. A lot more expensive and access to facilities are too. Many summer sports you can improve at for cheaper costs.

Oh thank you, R126!

[quote]The long track speed skaters are so fit. I was just watching the womens 3000m

The last name of the Italian athlete who finished 2nd is Lollobrigida, just like Gina!

Did she have big tits, too?

[quote]Oh thank you, [R126]!

I dunno, they look like they would be great roasted with an orange glaze and a side of Brussel sprouts.

I think they're freakish, and I love muscly legs. Too much for me.

[ quote] [R132] Might as well just call it the White Peoples’ Olympics.

Thank God. Finally get to see white people on tv. Now, if we could get those damn Asians off, it would be perfect.

R133 what would you call the finals of the men’s and women’s 100m and 200m sprints and 4 x 100m and 4 x 200m relays at the Summer Olympics?

He he, R144. Actually it's the wokesters who are the most anti-Asian.

Legs are nice, but let's see those muscular asses of the speed skaters.

Johnny Weir looks fucking ridiculous! She’s always annoyed me.

Fuck these Chinese pieces of shit. I hope they all die of COVID, Communist assholes.

I just saw Adam Rippon sitting with the other skaters from the USA, waving at the camera. Why is he there? Is he coaching someone?

Adam coaches Mariah Bell.

[quote] [R61], probably a good thing in the end for Chicago. The Olympics, summer or winter, are bloated events that cost a city, and governments at all levels in the host country, a ton of money.

Doesn't Chicago have most of the sports facilities and venues that could accommodate a Winter Olympics? It sure as hell gets cold enough to host a Winter Olympics out there.

R147! I know right! going for the minnie mouse look? total clown...

I just tuned in. Has Valieva Kamila skated yet?

Little Madeline Schizas coming through

Valieva within 10 minutes.

Canada has made the finals now.

Is Karen Chen the best American singles lady?

^Not tonight!

Mariah Bell won nationals this year.

Valieva was awesome! She is so light and flexible.

The US has a medal in women's slopstyle, either gold or silver. One rider left to go.

The US women would medal in something called 'slopstyle.'

China qualified for the team figure skating final over Georgia, despite having the same final score (22). Did they say why?

USA wins silver in slopestyle.

^The tie was broken by whichever team got higher scores in two of the events so far (I don't think they named the events).

The Austrian men's ski team is hot (playing cards).

R164, we can’t win gold in a sport we probably invented . . .

No one watching curling?

[quote] Mariah Bell won nationals this year.

She looks younger than 25. Does she have Webster syndrome?

Love curling and the cute guys.

Is Granny Mariah doing the free skate for the US?

I love watching curling. It is mesmerizing and can be very tense at the end of the final ends. And there are definitely some hot guys. Unfortunately, the hottest American guy didn't make it to the Olympics.

Prada makes snowboards?

Mens downhill has been delayed due to wind.

Interesting how the Paralympians are getting featured more in commercials over the past few years.

Men's Team FS starts in 5 minutes, at 10:50 Eastern...Keegan passed his fourth PCR test and is flying to Beijing, but not in time for this, so Roman is skating the team FS for Canada. Yuma is skating it for Japan, and Vincent for the US; Kondratiuk for Russia and Boyang Jin for China.

This is the first Olympics without Aksel Lund Svindal. SAD!

He was so hot.

Do any of the male skaters have clear skin?

Give them a break. Mark is only 18.

The last 2 with bad skin are teenagers. Tons of people have bad skin as teens.

I love curling too. It’s just so goofy.

[quote] It sure as hell gets cold enough to host a Winter Olympics out there.

Skiing on Mt. Joliet?

R182 It sure as hell gets cold enough in Beijing as well. Unfortunately Beijing is somewhat lacking in mountains and regular snowfall.

[quote] The last name of the Italian athlete who finished 2nd is Lollobrigida, just like Gina!

r140 Wow I didn't know that she's Gina's great niece!

Fuck this Olympics. Woke up to hot twink Marcus Kleveland not being able to qualify for slopestyle. WHAT THE FUCK?! He was a massive favorite. This stings. I'm so sad :(

And our shitty day continues. The cross country ski favorite Klæbo is already 42 seconds behind the two in the lead. We might finish this day with no medals😭

Finally some good news! Norway won over Sweden in mixed doubles curling. But they are still one place from a semifinal. They are 5th now.

Where’s Chris Madzder at!

Scandal in cross country skiing today. ZERO medals to Norway. Our shit day continues. First Kleveland not being able to qualify for slopestyle then no medals in our national sport cross country skiing. Only bright light today was the curling win over Sweden.

R186 Not Klæbo’s day

And Vincent Zhao continues to show why he's not Nathan Chen. The tiny Japanese guy was fabulous. That's Japan's no. 3 while we get . . . Jason Brown . . . that Russian-American guy will be moving up the ranks pretty quickly after this, I think, since I don't expect Nathan Chen to stick around if he gets gold. I don't think his hip is going to take another four years.

Then there's Karen Chen, back to being a headcase. Wish Bradie Tennell wasn't out all season, she's not the most graceful skater, but the girl can land a triple-triple under pressure unlike the other US Ladies.

We got bronze in speed skating. Finally some good news! We might not have gotten a medal in cross country skiing, which was pathetic, but a bronze in speed skating is amazing!

Bad conditions in ski jumping and not even top 10 after the first half. This day sucks. We will finish today with one bronze. Not even a gold medal in our national sport. The cheating Russsians beat us. Fuck this shit. This Olympics is turning into one of our worst ever.

You know, Norwegian, your country could have hosted these Olympics in Oslo. But your government wouldn't agree to the IOC's totally reasonable financial demands and requests to be pampered. /s

Australia just won its first gold medal since 2010, resident Norwegian. A young girl with a tragic name, Jakara.

Watching the ski, slide & other course-based comps and wondering how much pre-Olympics trial runs host country athletes are allowed on tracks, since that seems to provide an advantage over visiting athletes

[quote]Where’s Chris Madzder at!

He just had his last run but didn't win a medal this time

Will he do the men's doubles luge as well?

Chris only qualified in singles. :(

Most likely this will also be Chris' last Olympics, as well

R185 Hands off Marcus you perverted cryptkeeper. He's mine.

R197, that photo looks like the man about to go up into the other man.

Chris is the bottom

2 man luge, yep, nothing to see here, not a ounce of homoeroticism! laugh!...

I wonder how many times the bottom gets hard because of his junk pressing on someone even if it's a man laying on top of them and moving about friction going thru that event!..

I'm convinced that fucking Russian cross country skier is a cheater. It's not that he won the race today, but HOW we won it. He wasn't tired. He won by like 2 minutes. When it's THAT unbelievable, you can bet your ass there is something more behind it. No way is he clean. No fucking way.

If true, Norwegian guy is gonna be passed. ROC finished 1 and 2. Norway 4 and 5.

I meant pissed.

And Iivo Niskanen was 3rd

I keep thinking the luge guys say to each....."just like last night, bruh....."

Thanks, Finn.

Go Finland!

Hey Norwegian if it’s any compensation and for some perspective, Australia had its most successful day in Winter Olympics history yesterday: two medals.

Those Japanese skaters were beautiful 🥺🥲

Haha, fuck the Russians.

😛

Funny how everyone else's family is watching from the US except Mikaela Shiffrin's mom, who is somehow in Beijing.

Shiffrin tanned out of giant slalom btw, NBC quickly kicked the event over to the Cock app. Another American, one not named Shiffrin, sits in 6th.

The demon inside me always cheers when NBC hype faves flame out. I can't help it.

Watching events on the Peacock app is 100x better. No inane frau shit, just the sport with all of the competitors shown.

R214 I think the announcer said she’s her daughter’s coach?

The pairs and ice dancers are amazing. The men pick the women up and toss them in the air like dolls. That one where they both fell was scary though.

Shiffrin didn't medal. R214? Too bad.

I actually like her. She's got spunk.

R215 Are the medal ceremonies featured on the Cock?

An American dance team beat the ROC damce team! Bricks will be shit!

Who is the idiot who designed those hideous outfits for Chock and Bates?

Karen better not screw up the US team's medal chances. Why didn't Nathan skate the men's long program for US yesterday?

The US is four points ahead of Japan now so not even Karen can screw this up. Kamila will win so, even with Japan in second and Karen in fifth, that is only three points difference so it's a done deal.

Japan would need to win the free skate to knock US out of silver position. It's going to be ROC, USA, Japan in that order.

^and Karen would need to tan again.

How ironic when Americans complain about how the Chinese treat Uighurs

Thanks for explanation. So if Kamila fails miserably which wont happen, US will get bronze instead. Now I can go to bed & watch replays.

Kamila could always injure herself on one of her jumps. Never know what could happen.

Question: do all members of the skating team get a medal, or just the ones who compete?

All of her damn jumps are under-rotated. WTF is her problem?

Chen was lovely 🥰

Karen Chen got it done.

R229, only the ones who skate. For instance, not Jason Brown.

Thanks, R233. That sucks for Mariah, not getting to skate in this. There's no way she could have done worse than Karen in the short.

So had Nathan skated instead of Vincent and placed 1st in long and maybe Karen didn't screw up in short, US could have conceivably won gold.

Schizas beating Karen Chen score-wise is hilarious.

Is Chris Knierim a cuckold, no longer skating with his wife, but seeing her perform with another man?

Canada's male skater really fucked them over big time. They would be medal contenders if he hadn't tanned both of his programs.

Oh, the Russian wonder fell!

It's easy to see why interest in figure skating is dropping off in this country.

This program is ugly. Terrible music, terrible costume, and she just skates around and preps for big jumps.

I prefer the Torvill & Dean version

With those red gloves she looks as though she’s about to do the dishes.

Ha!

Bitch is still gonna win. 🤬

Again, I wonder why ROC Nation didn't let one of the other women skate in the short program. They had little to fear. Scherbakova is the reigning world champion and I'm sure she would have won the short. Seems a bit cruel/unfair.

R242 in a brothel.

Who wants Nathan Chen to fuck them? I do.

No, R240, interest in figure skating has dropped off in the US because no US girl can skate, literally, half that well. "Terrible music" is an interesting charge considering Bolero is literally a classic skating choice, and, as R241 pointed out, it was just fine with the world when Torvill and Dean used it. She doesn't just prep for big jumps (a la Elaine Zayak); she is also an incredible spinner and she has great extension coming out of her jumps. She is in a different sport than the rest of them. Jason Brown should skate so terribly.

The Russian skating factory really produces great skaters but dispenses with them with great speed too.

It's a boring routine and she does absolutely nothing with the music. It matters little since it's all about the jumps.

She's got those broad shoulders, you can tell she knows this is her only Olympic shot. In about a year she'll be another big, fridge-bodied bitch being passed around Russia's elite officials. Speaking of, how is little Alina Zagitova these days?

Alina who? These Russian waifs are so forgettable.

Jesus😳

Some of that skiing track is practically vertical 😳

I’m on USA network now.

This Swiss skier who just went into first has a huge gut.

Yes, he does! Mom commented on it too.

I should have been a pro ski racer. These men are so hot.

[quote] Terrible music

Why are Americans skating to horrible pop music? This goes back to the Shibutanis skating to the music of Coldplay.

Meanwhile, other skating programs are out there skating to classical music pieces. No wonder the Americans are not taken as seriously..

Love the jackets the U.S. snowboarders are wearing. So much better than that Ralph Lauren schlock.

R254, the skiers are very hot with their beefy bods or even dad bods.

R244 Scherbakova has been inconsistent this season.

R249 Zagitova is doing ice shows and raking in the cash, but she has most definitely lost her jumping ability. She performed at the gala for the Russian nationals and bombed every jump.

NBC better interview the Swiss daddy who just won gold in downhill.

The 41 year old silver medalist from France is hot.

Is that a fucking nuclear reactor????

😳😳😰😟😲

Here's that Swiss Daddy who won the downhill. He's got a little gut!

I thought Karen Chen performed better than that beastly Canadian girl.

Swiss daddy also has a wife and a couple of kids. Good lord, I will say nothing about her, nothing.

Probably, R261 - what with that and the brown bare hills and the thin strips of fake snow it’s not exactly the Swiss Alps.

Canadian womens hockey team scored twice on ROC in 20 seconds. LMAO. Maybe that big-shoulder bitch Kamila can skate over and score a couple of goals for their poor hockey team.

Isn't this like the second Winter Olympics to have a team event for figure skating? I wonder how did figure skaters feel when the Olympics decided to do that? Were they happy because it's another chance to win a medal or pissed because it was yet something else to have to train for?

They’re probably glad of the opportunity. They get to do their programs with not so much at stake and nerves will have calmed by the time they compete individually.

If the team does well, they have a shot at a medal. Whereas in the individual performance they might not get near the top 3 positions.

Chen has her silver medal. In the individual competition, she’s never gonna be in the top 3.

It's probably been asked before so I'll apologize in advance but how did curling get to be an Olympic sport? Granted most sports are a combination of skill and athleticism but how much of an afhlete do you have to be? Still appreciate the eye candy though.

Woke up to ZERO new medals. Our favorites keep failing. First Klæbo, then Kleveland and now Kilde. Fuck this shit. 2 days since our last gold and the cheating Russians are now ahead of us in medals. I'm disgusted.

Tanned?

You're currently tied with SWEDEN for golds, Norwegian. But that could change shortly here if the Swedish woman wins the GS.

At least that's a lot better than the U.S.' poor performance so far.

R264, that’s his mom, not wife. Scroll down further. Wife is young and pretty.

Vincent Zhou has Covid, I’m sure he’s out. Is Ilia Malinin there as alternate? They’re saying If Vince tests neg tomorrow he can skate—uh, not likely, I don’t think Covid vanishes overnight!

R264, how dare you insult my mother!

Norwegian, I wasn't even aware Norwegians could get as mad as you've demonstrated in this thread! You live in my idea of a utopia.

It's been great to behold.

And sorry that you're having such a shitty Games so far.

Any update on the skier that had the horrible fall?

Vincent Zhao tested positive for COVID. Good thing he got in on the team event with that mediocre FS and nabbed the silver because it looks like he'll be out for the men's individual. Ilia Malinin is the first alternate. Is he actually in Beijing? He did a great skate at Nationals.

Beat is only 34 and he's of sturdy alpine peasant stock.

Are they saying how much covid is going around. So many are getting it AFTER they arrive.

Was Michelle Kwan the last great US female skater? Given that she last skated competitively in 2005, I'm surprised she hasn't inspired and US hasn't produced more ROC- or even JPN-level women.

You may have forgotten us...gold medalists, unlike Kwan.

One hit wonders don't count. They got lucky and knew when to get out before they returned to mediocre the next year.

R269, actually, curling is pretty active physically. All that up and down and squatting would wear on your back and knees, and, god knows the sweeping part is damn hard work. Any time they show some reporter trying it out, they are winded just doing it once and only half-assed at that. I love archery in the summer as well, but it is a lot less physically taxing than curling. Hell, even golf is a lot less physically taxing.

In golf the players get driven on a cart from hile to hole. Talk about physically undemanding.

The downhill ski course was both beautiful and scary! all those rugged mountains and the landscape and going down hill at nearly 90 miles a hour! holy crap! The athletes are "pros" of course, but I don't see how any of them could keep their eyes on the course when you look out at that horizon and mountains!....

I didn't watch the end of the competition, but who was that handsome dark haired blue eyed skier who was in first place for the longest time? I don't think he was the eventually winner. but I noticed the camera loved lingering on his face in close up! ...

Are we laughing at the dumb cunt who gave up her US citizenship to rep communist China???

What a stupid cunt

The fucking Russians CHEATED in ski jumping. They paid off the judges to disqualify all the jumpers so that only Slovenia, Russia and Canada were left. Fucking BULLSHIT.

And people still think it's weird that Bolshunov managed to win by so much in cross country skiing yesterday? Lmao. The Chinese are helping the Russians cheat. Come on. It's so obvious. Today's ski jumping was a fucking parody! The ski jumpers said the judges measured the suits a new way... a new way. In a fucking Olympics?! And why only the women?! Lmao. Fake. Fake. Fake. Cheating cheaters wilm cheat.

A Chinese ski jumper jumped 71 m in a 100 m hill and got 5×20 in points. LOL! The Chinese and Russians are the same. Fucking cheaters. As if 4 countries just got disqualified for suits... suits that were perfectly ok in the first half, but not the second. Weird that.

This time last year Lindsay Vonn was touting her bearding relationship with gay hockey player PK Subban. Funny how she didn't even mention him the other night when they were interviewing her about Michaela Schiffrin.

So sad those kids broke up - I guess it was the pressure of two high profile careers.

Does anyone know why the female snowboarders and freestyle skiers pull two tendrils of hair out of their helmets? Almost all of them do it, and I'm curious if there's a reason behind it.

R292 it's "the look" they all want I guess.

R278 They can’t bring Malinin in to replace Zhou anymore. Once a skater has skated in the team event, he can’t be replaced. Also, once the draw happens for the men’s short program, the skater cannot be replaced. Both are true in Zhou’s case.

[quote] Does anyone know why the female snowboarders and freestyle skiers pull two tendrils of hair out of their helmets?

Aerodynamics.

Can Vincent Zhou survive the Beijing COVID gulag?

I agree r283. Article is 4 yrs old but main reasons seem to be: new scoring system (more emphasis on technical points vs. artistry), non-centralized coaching system, competition w/gymnastics (thanks Simone) since they draw similar stature young girls, and the fact Russian skaters are simply amazing technically.

The Russians are amazing technically and with their jumps but they often come off very robotic and lacking in expression.

China and Russia both lie, cheat and steal regularly. They should not be allowed to host things like the Olympics.

R287 We should be grateful she did her falls for China rather than the US... 😀

I was wondering how long it would be before some of the best athletes would start to test positive for COVID. Such a great way to get rid of the competition. Of course, none of the Chinese athletes will test positive.

R299 Yeah! Damn those Commies, the big stinkers!

I used to be a huge skating fan but the "new' scoring system emphasizes racking up points with jumps. It's boring seeing skater after skater basically doing the same routine--same jumps, same tricks.

There's no spontaneity. No one just sticks in a jump to make up for a previous failed jump because routines are so tightly choreographed.

BORING!

Skating today is all about jumps. I remember the artistry of Toller Cranston.

^Mary!

Madison Chock as an alien encountering human Evan Bates.

Now it's all about quad jumps like the men's. Do women even do edge spirals anymore in competition? Speaking of which, my partner and I once shared an elevator w/Michelle Kwan at some benefit in SF a few years back, and she was lovely and down to earth, plus she's a liberal and now will be Biden's ambassador to Belize.

The olympics are corrupt, politicized, money-grubbing spectacle.

A world-championship in a particular sport is far more respected than 'olympic champion".

Canada's 'indigenous people' are preparing a bid to host the 2030 olympics in Vancouver using for the mpst part all of the 2010 olympic venues. They say it will part of their 'reconciliation' strategy or some such nonsense.

Talk about smash'n grab! If there's a ton of money around with corrupt leanings, they're the first in line as always, playing on the whole 'un-surrendered land' and dredging up histrionics for the whole guilt trip angle.

^ You might want to try that in English next time, sport.

Ice dancing has no jumps. If you want artistic skating that's what to watch. There are certain required elements, but the programs are quite different.

The Gen Z athletes are not bringing home the medals like previous generation of American athletes.

Damn it!!!

I missed all the male skaters! I was watching NBC like a dumbass and they’re on USA Network!! 😡🤬😡🤬

I just now saw Darth Vader skate.

What did I miss?

Nothing.

And now they move back to the network??

USA is talking about hockey now 🤔🤔

Make skaters will be on NBC tonight

^male

At midnight.

This Super-G race is endless.

NBC is so fucking stupid to HAVE to show something most of us don’t give a shit about LIVE while making everyone wait for the events we want to see. They did it with endless swimming heats while gymnastics finals were on and major news with Biles out.

We don’t need to see every fucking skier going downhill for over an hour in PRIMETIME.

So odd watching the skiing, the runs are covered with fake snow and everything else is brown and dry as hell. This whole Olympics is creepy.

R311, ice dance has cribbed a number of elements from pairs like side-by-side skating (dance hold greatly de-emphasised), pairs spins, and complicated lifts. No jumps though.

It’s to the detriment of both disciplines, imo.

So this American cow wins a gold for fucking China???

R323 Yep. She’d rather win a medal for an oppressive regime instead of America. She can’t wait until 2026?

An indigenous Olympics would be great. God knows they need something new to jazz up this tired old thing.

Next Olympics needs to be in a place with actual ICE and SNOW. Yes, I know it’s fucking cold in Beijing and they own the IOC.

Are you brain damaged R323? Athletes compete for their parents countries all the time. Even Americans!

Wasn’t this mens super G on yesterday??

Where the fat man won a silver?

Did she decide to represent China because she couldn't make it on the U.S. team? Because if so, that makes her a really big self absorbed all about her p.o.s.!...

R325 They could have had it in TX last year, then. Only no electricity to go with that ice and snow.

I know that, you asshole, R326, it just bothers me.

The Americans haven’t won much in these competitions. We have 3 so far. That’s not good.

Men's free skate on now.

It's still early but no gold yet is worrying for the US team.

Her reason for playing for China is to inspire young Chinese girls. she seems to lacks awareness of the politics involved. What country is she a citizen of?

Hanyu just shat the bed.

If he hits the quad axel in free, it will more than make up for it.

[quote]So this American cow wins a gold for fucking China???

She is being paid millions by Chinese companies for endorsements. This was a financial decision, nothing more.

We'd all do the same.

Nathan Chen should have fixed his teeth years ago.

China's main female figure skater is also American-born, naturalized Chinese. She stunk though and was ripped apart on the Chinese internet as fake Chinese and not worthy to represent China. If Eileen Gu had falled on her face, she would've recieved the same treatment.

Even a quad axel (which he hasn't hit yet) is going to make up for a zero point miss in the short program.

Yes, I recall a sad video where Chinese people started throwing rocks at a kangaroo because they wanted to see it hop. They stoned the poor creature to death. These people are unforgiving.

“Six quads in a single program!” I hate this obsession with the jumps. These programs are just skating around between jumps anymore. No artistry, just technical feats.

I can only marvel at Johnny Weir.

He is a masterpiece of the figure skating world zeitgeist!

You can’t win a gold medal in the short program, but you can lose one. Hanyu just lost one.

That just isn't true, R342. It's just a snarky/bitchy thing to say about "the good old days." They aren't necessarily doing any MORE jumps than they used to, it's just that the jumps they are doing now are more difficult. There is even a rule that limits the number of jumps one can perform.

If you want to understand the value of artistry, watch Italy’s Grassl (on now) and see how awful his artistry is

[Quote] They aren't necessarily doing any MORE jumps than they used to, it's just that the jumps they are doing now are more difficult.

To rack up points, they ALL do the same jumps in a strict program. All the routines seems to look alike and blend into one another.

US wins silver in men's super G. Mikaela Shiffrin's beefy Norwegian boyfriend won bronze. I thought the French skier she was banging for a while was much hotter.

The Norwegian looks goofy but I like the beef

No one cares when athletes chop and change countries…except when it costs USA! USA! USA! a medal.

Does anyone do quad-quad combos?

My ambien is going to make me forget the last few skaters.

My gummies do the same.

R351, not yet, but the kid who finished second in the US nationals (and should have gotten to go to the Olympics instead of Jason Brown) can do them in practice and plans on doing one in a program. I'm also sure that Kamila Valieva could do it already as well.

Quad-quad is the last hurdle

No, some of them are working on quints.

I don’t think quints are possible—because of the physics

Yuma Kagiyama is so cute.

Most of the men are wearing black, how very boring.

R358 SO cute!

The inxs song used by the Canadian, it did not sound like the original sung by hutchence. The music arrangement though did sound like the original. Was it just the acoustics in the arena or was it a cover with another singer?

I know they are illegal now, but how long before skating allows upside down jumps like that black French French skater

Canada lives it’s stocky “im straight” male skaters

Are they really working on quintuples? That cant be possible.

The point piling is made worse by NBC having a point board on the top left showing every point as it it made

I can remember that old queen, Dick Button, sitting around pontificating about how quads would never be possible either.

Chen is great but the Japanese guy was more fun

I. Any even imagine how one progresses from single, double, triple, and quad jumps

Great job, Nathan. So happy for him. He's a great representative for the US.

Kagiyama's fabulous. Definitely the future of the sport.

It was another singer. That was not Michael.

Nice job Nathan.

Watch out athletes!! You might find peepee in your coke!

They mentioned that someone tried a quad axel (4.5 turns). Don’t think physics would allow that either

Only Covid can stop Chen.

How do you all know Hanyu choked?? They haven’t shown it on NBC yet

It’s artistry and showmanship that really distinguishes between skaters. Just flopping your hands around doesn’t make you graceful.

Choreography and song choice to build up and get audience excited count alot

Boy howdy, Chen's the king.

[quote] How do you all know Hanyu choked?? They haven’t shown it on NBC yet

He was on the other network. USA network. Didn't make NBC.

Chen is amazing—he’s going to win the gold. Get his Yale degree, and the sky’s the limit

Hanyu was absolutely on NBC, not USA. He was the first one on NBC an hour ago.

Hanyu blamed the ice for his mistake.

Jason Brown has a nice ass.

[quote]Canada lives it’s stocky “im straight” male skaters

Borrowed him from the Americans. He's from Anchorage.

R371, It sounded like Joe Cocker to me.

There have been plenty of athletes who represented the USA and they were born elsewhere. American sports aren't shy about importing talent in sports where we are not very good. If Gu was only halfway good, no one would care.

Conversely, the Chinese crapping on Yi, are they supporting Gu? If so, it is the same as above, only care because the latter won the gold.

This Georgian could def tuck me in tonight.

You'd think that after all these years of skating, Brown would have a quad.

Taupe gloves should be banned. Make hands look creepy, like prostheses.

So Brown follows the American tradition of Weir and Rippon in saying "I'm gay and I don't give a damn about any quads!"

I remember years ago Charles Tickner didn’t have a triple, but we still sent him

Rippon was doing a quad Lutz.

R371 It was Joe Cocker’s version.

Why doesn't Nathan get his teeth done so they look as nice as Julie's?

R395, maybe it would mess with his aerodynamics

Isn’t it weird that you train in one sport every waking moment and suddenly, you stop

Jason Brown is ahead of Hanyu. My stars.

I like Nathan Chen, but his skating doesn’t have much personality. He’s an amazing technician with competent artistry—and that’s enough to be the best ever

Never, r362. (Soraya Bonaliy.)

Hanyu was not on USA; I just watched that program; he was definitely on NBC. He completely missed a scheduled quad, and has zero chance of medaling now.

Nathan Chen is The Man, but Kagiyama is the New Kid. Men's FS will be thrilling for more years!

I'm telling you, get your "Stars on Ice" tickets now!

[quote]He completely missed a scheduled quad, and has zero chance of medaling now.

There's always a chance of splatfest up the ladder.

Or surprise COVID.

I think he’s possibly looking at bronze, if he’s perfect & everyone above him splats. It. Gold-silver is surely a Chen-Kagiyama lockdown (either order).

Chen is musical And he consistently picks interesting music to which to skate, which puts him a cut above someone like Boyang. What he lacks is flexibility. I always feel like his lower back is tight and that results in less flow in his choreography. Brandie Tennell has a similar issue.

Thing about Eileen Gao is that she's American born, raised and train and she's competing for a country whose human rights record is so appalling that several countries, including the US are doing a diplomatic boycott. It's not like Keegan Messing or Piper Gilles skating for Canada, there's something a little gross about competing for China during this game, particularly since Gao, unlike that little figure skater, could have gotten to the Olympics without doing so.

I'd feel the same way about a Russian American competing for Russia.

R403, there's nothing more American than chasing the dollar, be it Chinese, Russian, Canadian etc..

R403, fun when America points to other countries an complains about human rights records

I’m from the US but had an intense dislike for Yuko Kavaguti, who gave up her Japanese citizenship to skate pairs for Russia under Tamara Moskvina’s tutelage. Tiki’s last name was Kawaguchi, but she changed that as well to fit the Cyrillic mold! Ugh i couldn’t stand her.

Other than that one, I don’t mind when athletes switch.

Eileen Gu is a nobody in the states, however she becomes a national hero in China with multi-million dollar deals. I don't blame her.

If you don't want talents to leave then treat them better, I am pretty sure Eileen Gu and her family suffer lots of discriminations due to their Asian heritage. In a country that an Asian can be randomly attacked on the street or pushed into the subway, I don't blame her .

Johnny Weir and Tara Lipinski are very cute together and really know their stuff; plus they make it all pretty interesting and specific. However, if you overlook that giant heart on Johnny's shirt tonight, didn't you think he looked almost like Rachel Maddow? Is that the look he was going for?

It's a small detail, but Nathan Chen has good hair.

R409, agreed, Tara and Johnny are good ice skating commentators.

I bet!

Oh, you mean the stuff on his head?

R281, the last US lady who was truly competitive for world/Olympic titles was Sasha Cohen in 2010. Liu could've been the next, but puberty and drama with her overbearing dad haven't been kind to her thus far.

Shoma and his coach are cute together. Chen will win the title unless he makes a several mistakes in the free. I expect Hanyu to compete one more season after the Olympics to go to the world event in Japan next year. I'm heartbroken Vincent couldn't compete because of covid, what a shitty way to go out where you like his skating or now.

Why wasn't the US Men's alternate - the guy actually finished 2nd - at the Games, to step in for Vincent? I didn't hear anyone mention that.

I asked this above, & r294 graciously answered me.

Basically it’s bad timing, had the team event not taken place, he could’ve subbed in for Zhou.

R403, Really, is the US currently detaining a million members of an ethnic minority and forbidding them to practice their religion? How about forced sterilization?

Funny, your kind of what-about-ism is straight out of the old Russian propaganda handbook.

R408--Gu's from San Francisco, where she attended a private school and plans to attend her mother's alma mater--Stanford. So, no, she's hardly been through a tough childhood filled with threats to her well-being. And it's not like she's planning to spend her life, or even, from the sounds of it, much time in China.

Nathan Chen, Karen Chen, Vincent Zhao, Alyssa Liu all have Chinese-born parents, but none of them have chosen to skate for China. I suspect Gu will regret it since she shows every sign of planning to continue living in the U.S.

Gu. should just say she represents China for the $.Please spare the world the inspirational bs. China is a true authoritarian state so it’s all very gross. She has some deals with US companies too. Do they really want her as the face of their brand? Is she going to give up her U S passport?

R416 The endorsement deals Eileen Gu currently has in China beat all those American combined (Nathan , Karen, Vincent...) and she is a household name in China, if she had stayed in the US, I doubt many American would know who she is.

Naomi Osaka chose to represent Japan instead of the US, her dad told her she would be better off in Japan, and he is right. Eileen Gu and her family made the same decision, she now has a much bigger career in China.

R416 Oh, I really doubt Gu will regret anything. Americans have a short memory about the Olympics and it’s not as if she’s doping or doing anything illegal. Athletes country hop all the time, like Bubba, the “Irish” skier from America, whose only connection to Ireland was the fact he was born there while his father had a temporary job.

I find it distasteful to country hop like that, but we all know she’ll be laughing her way to the bank. Maybe she’d get a Wheaties box here and an ad in some sports magazine. In China, she’s on every billboard and in every magazine. But what’s really fucked up is that US companies like Red Bull, Tiffany and Co, Victoria’s Secret, Estee Lauder, and Cadillac have all signed her up for endorsement deals, too. America loves to celebrate assholes and sellouts.

R417 Rumor is she had to give up her US citizenship as China doesn’t allow dual. Slate has a link about that and how she deleted that tidbit from her bio.

It’s confirmed that the figure skater Beverly Zhu (oh, excuse me, Zhu Yi) renounced her US citizenship. What’s rich is that after her dismal performance in the team event, the Chinese on Weibo are eviscerating her, complaining that she took the spot away from a girl who was actually born, raised and training in China but came from humble means and didn’t have the resources that Zhu had.

[quote] US companies like Red Bull, Tiffany and Co, Victoria’s Secret, Estee Lauder, and Cadillac...

they sell products in China too, if they don't sign her, the Chinese, European or Japanese companies etc are more than happy to grab her.

R420 Poor Zhu, if only she had skated well... Just ask Tanith Belbin (and Ben Agosto), since they won a bronze medal, no one made noise on how they took the spot away from David Mitchell/Loren Galler-Rabinowitz, all forgiven!

I'm not sure minors can give up their citizenship, but if Gu did and plans to stay in the U.S. she gave herself a major tax headache.

R420, Belbin had an American father. I also cut pairs and dance teams some slack because it's hard to find a partner. It's a small pool of talent. But Belbin did move to the U.S., trained here and stayed here. Gu plans to stay in the United States and go to Stanford.

Ice dancer Tim Kuleto is American born, but skated for Japan. However, he moved there, married his Japanese partner and actually interrupted his training in order to establish residency.

Gu wants to live in America, train in American, attend an elite American university and pull in Chinese money. She's no role model.

Interesting thread on Gu from an article in the Economist. China tried to recruit Alyssa Liu first, but her father, a Chinese dissident (and gay--he's sort of the ultimate skating dad) said no way.

Gu's all in on the Chinese propaganda, but has posted in support of Black Lives Matter. Doesn't seem to have said a word in support of Hong Kong protesters though. Funny that.

[quote]China tried to recruit Alyssa Liu first, but her father, a Chinese dissident (and gay--he's sort of the ultimate skating dad) said no way.

Pretty sure her dad made that up, her dad is a very shady character, the claim of him being a "dissident" or involved in 1989 student protest are all BS, but telling stories helped to apply for asylum.

R422, Belbin and Agosto won silver in 2006.

Hunky Swedish curler wins bronze in mixed doubles.

I find Nathan Chen sexy. I don’t know why.

Gu made the right decision.

Gu made the right decision for her. What is disturbing is how China is fundamentally changing things with its purchasing power. They’re changing the NBA and most worrisome, Hollywood. Movies have gotten sucky in no small part to catering to Chinese audiences.

Oh, I don't think China has any blame in the sucky quality of the movies. Can't see the producers saying," The Chinese love Ben Platt. Let's put him in 'Evan Hansen', " or " James Corden in 'Cats'? The Chinese love him."

[quote] Hollywood. Movies have gotten sucky in no small part to catering to Chinese audiences.

R430 that was five years ago, these days Hollywood productions can barely get into Top 10 in China, their box office is dominated by local productions, which shouldn't surprise anyone. The superheroes and racing cars can only do so much, they are like McDonald and KFC, once the novelty is over, they are still fast food after all.

Gu made the right decision but she should stop pretending to be a social justice warrior who wants to inspire young girls. She’s phony and a hypocrite.

Surprisingly, I do enjoy the commentary with tara and johnny, they know their stuff, know when to speak, etc.

Same here, r428, and I am definitely not partial to Asians.

But Nathan has that intensity in his eyes, a thrilling and confident physicality, and magnificent hair!

Another shit day by Team Norway and Sweden leads us in gold medals, which is disgusting. It makes me sick. At least Klæbo finally got his gold medal. But today we lost out on 3 out of 4 "sure" gold medals. All our favorites failed except one. First we suffered because of a covid outbreak among our athletes and now athletes are choking hard and losing out on gold medals. We are cursed this Olympics.

It's Chen's confidence and composure that is most appealing.

R413, do you mean Yuma and his coach are cute together instead of Shoma? Yuma is SUPER cute and is coached by his father. Shoma looks vacant through the eyes and is coached by Swiss legend Stephane Lambiel.

I agree r434. While watching men's short on Peacock app, there was no expert commentary whatsoever, which was missed, though every competitor was shown

Shoma is kinda hot. I ship him with his coach. They're cute together.

I am curious who Eileen Gu's American father is. Why do I get the feeling that he's some billionaire white guy who was married at the time of conception? We all know how Asian women are. Eileen's mother was on a student visa when she came here.

I think Gu will come to regret getting into bed with China, pun intended. Look at tennis player Peng Shuai, forced into a sexual relationship with some old guy who was high on the food chain. She's a prisoner in China. What makes you think Gu will be able to dodge that? China also demands a lot more of its famous people in terms of money. She'll pay a shit ton in taxes to both the US and China.

If Gu really did give up her US citizenship, and it's a question as she refuses to answer, she's a fool. She'll be a slave to China and as anti-Chinese sentiment grows in the US, no one will care.

I can't wait for Men's ice hockey and that American stud Jake Chelios playing for the Chinese.

Skating to Aznavour makes Nathan sexier than he would otherwise be (as well as wearing a little black suit).

R439, this is something confusing me. Once in awhile I'll see the performances (peacock), but there won't be any commentary... is there a reason why? Are they only commenting on the popular skaters or the most important games?

R444 I watched it today on Eurosport. It had British commentators.

I wish Nathan Chinny Chin Chen wasn't so rehearsed in his interviews. He has two or three sentences that he says over and over no matter what the question is.

And Hanyu talked after he messed up - something Hissy Fit Nathan never does.....he just flounces off and skips the interviews.

When do we get to see Ms. Chock & Master Bates in the long program?

R445 Are you watching Eurosport in the US? I found it was geoblocked online.

R441 I’m 100% certain Mother Gu was a mini Wendi Deng in her youth. I’m sure she was very, very discriminating in her choice of who got the bareback treatment: white, tall, rich, intelligent. Well played, Mother Gu, well played.

R424 I want to hear more gossip on why Mr. Liu is the ultimate skating dad. Can you tell me more, pretty please?

I now picture them fucking. Do you think a skater has ever fucked his coach before? They have great chemistry. Just look at that second pic.

R447 No, I'm Norwegian.

18-year-old Eileen Gu:

Olympic gold medalist

gorgeous fashion model for LVMH and Kering

incoming Stanford first-year undergrad (1580 SAT) (her mother earned an MBA from Stanford)

fully bilingual

near centimillionaire (look it up)

will probably marry a billionaire

Loser DL haters: snarky, heavily medicated, aging and resentful, ensconced in multiple caftans because reality is too difficult despite their having been born on third base

Mother Gu must have lost her touch if she had to sell her teenage daughter to China. Now that Eileen is 18, I suppose the child support checks have stopped coming. Mother has bills to pay, I suppose.

Eileen Gu … lobbyist for authoritarian regime that practices racial cleansing..

CCP officials made the now-retired Peng Shuai sit and watch Gu yesterday before they disappear her for the rest of her life. Sad.

BEIJING (AP) — Chinese tennis player Peng Shuai sat with International Olympic Committee President Thomas Bach and watched American-born Chinese freeskier Eileen Gu win gold at the women’s big air event Tuesday.

Peng appeared a day after delivering a controlled interview in Beijing that touched on sexual assault allegations she made against a former high-ranking member of China’s ruling Communist Party. Her answers — delivered in front of a Chinese Olympic official — left unanswered questions about her well-being and what exactly happened.

Bach said he and Peng spoke with athletes at the Big Air Shougang venue for about 30 minutes, and the pair was seen together in the stands.

Bach said Peng told him that she was going into quarantine later Tuesday and planned to exit the closed Olympic coronavirus bubble. He was not sure if she planned to return for any more Olympic events.

Peng, a local star who has encouraged Chinese girls and women to take up tennis, watched as Gu formally ascended to a similar position with her first Olympic gold medal.

An 18-year-old born in San Francisco, Gu decided in 2019 to compete for China at the Beijing Games, spurning Team USA in the process. Gu, whose mother is Chinese, has said repeatedly that her goal is to be a role model for young female athletes in China.

Gu sidestepped a question about whether she shared concerns from the international community about Peng’s well being. She said he was “really happy” Peng attended and honored that a star from a major sport like tennis came to see “niche sports like freeskiing.”

“I’m really grateful that she’s, yeah, happy and healthy and out here doing her thing again,” Gu said.

Peng’s interview with French sports newspaper L’Equipe and an announcement that Bach met Peng for dinner this weekend seemed aimed at allaying sustained international concerns about the three-time Olympian and former No. 1-ranked tennis doubles player. Fears for Peng’s safety have threatened to overshadow the Winter Olympics in Beijing.

Peng told L’Equipe that the concerns were the result of “an enormous misunderstanding.” But the format of the interview appeared to limit follow-ups about the allegations and their aftermath.

L’Equipe asked Peng about sexual assault allegations that sparked the controversy in November. The allegations were quickly scrubbed from her verified account on leading Chinese social media platform Weibo. She subsequently dropped out of public view for a while. That led to “where is Peng Shuai?” questions online and from players and fans outside of China, in part because the country has a history of disappearing people who run afoul of its leaders.

In her lengthy post, Peng wrote that Zhang Gaoli, a former vice premier and member of the ruling Chinese Communist Party’s all-powerful Politburo Standing Committee, had forced her to have sex despite repeated refusals. Her post also said they had sex once seven years ago, and that she developed romantic feelings for him after that. Zhang has not commented on the accusation.

“Originally, I buried all this in my heart,” she wrote. “Why would you even come find me again, take me to your house and force me and you to have sexual relations?”

Whoa China is SUCH a SCARY place! Totally alien! /s

B...b..but she's MISSING!!!

[quote] Gu made the right decision but she should stop pretending to be a social justice warrior who wants to inspire young girls. She’s phony and a hypocrite.

Gu “made the right decision”? Greed? Is it only all about the $$$$$$$?

Sure everything looks good from the outside in China. It’s the behind the scenes stuff that is a nightmare.

Trust me, living in China is no walk in the park. If this girl gave away her US citizenship for Chinese citizenship, there is a huge price. It comes at a cost: control. No matter how lauded and praised she is, if she does not toe the CCP line (as other actors and athletes have failed to do), her life will no longer be her own.

Now she is basking in the limelight, but is it worth the risk of becoming a pawn to China?

I would never, ever give up Western citizenship for China. After having lived there, that was the only thing that provided respite from the horrors of the treatment of their own citizens.

CCP was tired of dealing with the Peng Shuai controversy so they forced her to retire. Now that she won't be expected at tournaments or appear in any media appearances, problem solved. The only other option was to suicide her. We'll never see her again, and it's all because she spoke out against a Party member and his sexual assaults. I'm sure if Eileen dares to step out of line, they'll pass her around to break her and she'll face the same fate. Freeskiing isn't even as high profile as tennis. She's in deep shit already and she doesn't even know it.

[quote] Really, is the US currently detaining a million members of an ethnic minority and forbidding them to practice their religion? How about forced sterilization? Funny, your kind of what-about-ism is straight out of the old Russian propaganda handbook.

Well, in America, the land of "equality," it's fine to impoverish blacks and shoot them at will without consequences. They are also systematically blocked from equity in voting and the political process, in education, and in jobs. We're in the middle of Jim Crow 2.0. Let's stop pretending America's so high and mighty.

I don’t believe we are stating that the US is “high and mighty”. It has many issues, and could use some introspection.

The Trump Era(including the pandemic which was accelerated by Trump policies), collapse of infrastructure and many revered institutions has the roosters coming home to roost in the good ole USA.

That said, there is a continuum, and China and Russia are at one end and Western democracies at another.

For all of the USA’s faults, it is not (yet) an authoritarian regime.

I wonder why Gu is being so evasive about confirming whether she renounced her US citizenship. She was asked six times at the post-medal press conference and gave mealy-mouthed answers. If you did it, own it and be proud. No more of the “I feel American in America and Chinese in China.” We all want to know, just what color is your passport?

Note: no Asian-American sports superstars are quitters during the Olympics! We would kill them if they did.

Gu wisely evades the legal question of her US citizenship outside of a court of law.

When will China expect her to begin spying on her fellow “expatriates”. All that adoration comes at a price.

This is very cute.

[quote] For all of the USA’s faults, it is not (yet) an authoritarian regime.

By the next Olympics it will be.

Ugh. If Trump is elected in 2024, then that means he gets to open the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles, assuming he lasts for the duration of the term.

Funny how we only want to claim Gu because she won the gold.

We don't want the Chinese American female skater who fell.

Who said anything about claiming her? No one cares about freeskiing, actually. It's more gossip, especially since she's being so secretive about basic things (citizenship) while simultaneously being promoted relentlessly by American media. They desperately want the American public to notice this Chinese athlete -- why? I haven't even been looking for articles about her but she's all over CNN, People mag, ESPN...

Quints are pretty impossible based on kinesiology and physics. Already some articles about this, just google search. There may be a freak of nature able to do it, a la Michael Phlelps and his strange body with long torso and arms like flippers, but that happens every generation or so.

R471, not to mention, many of the “quads” are not real quads, especially with the Russian girls, who pre-rotate on the ice before their skates leave the ground- it’s technically a cheat; and a lot of the men doing the harder quads are cheating it too.

Explanation of some of the prerotation going on in the quads in the link by a former skater.

[quote]When will China expect her to begin spying on her fellow “expatriates”. All that adoration comes at a price.

It's probably started at this point. The figure skater who fell is getting trashed by the Chinese media, I wouldn't be surprised if Gu is trying to be her "friend" at this point.

[quote] Ugh. If Trump is elected in 2024, then that means he gets to open the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles, assuming he lasts for the duration of the term.

If that happens and Cait Jenner is still alive in 2028, I would if Trump would be seething if Jenner was chosen to light the cauldron.

One of my favorite moments, especially when he gets his scores.

Gu had to give up her American citizenship. She's Chinese only now. No turning back.

There plenty of cases of atheletes switching countries for the Olympics outside of the USA and it causing controversey. I remember the South Korean speedskater who dumped South Korea for Russia and it led to a major national debate there.

Vic Wild won gold in Sochi and bronze yesterday. He competed for the US and then married a Russian snowboarded and switched. Nobody really cared but he then he gave a bunch of dopey interviews abou how he was only Russian now and how incredible Putin was. He was also one of Russia's only big stars from the 2014 games not to get caught for doping. Probably because he didn't start training with the Russian federation until shortly before the games.

It would be hysterical if they didn’t let that privileged cow leave the country. 😛😛

Yeah, I don't think Gu understands the protection US citizenship offered her. For the bozoes doing the whataboutism evil-United-States thing, I'll just point out that if Harvey Weinstein had been a powerful producer raping Chinese actresses, you'd never have heard of it and he wouldn't be sitting in prison. You sure as hell couldn't post "Uyghur Lives Matter" on your Instagram feed without repercussions, let alone march in support of Uyghurs or Hong Kong students.

Being abroad is limited protection. Chinese students in the U.S. take it for granted that their social media is watched by the Chinese authorities.

As an American citizen being courted by the Chinese government, Gu is naive to think she won't be subject to a different set of expectations as a Chinese citizen. She gave up a powerful birthright and for what? A little more money? Because as a gold-medal winner for the U.S. who looks like a model, she'd have made plenty of money in the U.S. She'll make less here now because she sold out to a dictatorship.

Wasn’t Dianne de Leeuw the first skater to take advantage of having dual citizenship? She was born in Orange County but her parents were Dutch making her eligible to skate for the Netherlands.

Suzanne Driano skated for Italy, but lived in Van Nuys.

[quote]She'll make less here now because she sold out to a dictatorship.

Or nothing at all as anti-China sentiment is high and will only continue to rise. She won't get those star opportunities in the US. Oh well...

Kagiyama is a cutie, for sure.

He's cute in a little-boy-from-a-50s sitcom kind of way.

You say that like that’s a bad thing, R484.

Wow, not typically into Asians but Nathan Chen is gooooood looking.

Well, I'm so glad you've made an exception r486 🙄

WTf is wrong with Micheala?

That’s 2 she’s fucked up.

Italy wins gold in mixed doubles curling. Italian guy is cute.

He's 6'6" and a powerhouse sweeper. They didn't lose a game. Head and shoulders above the competition.

Kagi is only 5'3 1/2". He is Chen's heir apparent.

Are there any US born athletes competing for Israel at these Olympics?

Eileen Gu Ailing is in it for the money. As long as she wins, she'll be a propaganda star. Let's see what her circumstances are in 20 years.

Lots of Americans compete for other countries. Gu is no different

R495, Maybe not.

But China is.

Anyone here know enough about figure skating to say if Hanyu's missed jump in the men's short program was due to his hitting a rut or crack in the ice, or due to lack of concentration or technique? I hear the Fanyus are going apeshit over it.

Did anybody notice the whole opening ceremony was a complete rip off of another olympics. Down to the footprint fireworks.

I can’t remember which olympics but I’m think it was the summer China olympics. Did they rip themselves off?

I seem to remember the same program, complete with scroll as a centerpiece

I do recall the Chinese Olympics with “The nest” that had fireworks (much of it faked)

R436 Norwegian, just saw Norway win gold in something called big air.

Yeah, Nathan Chen is sexy. I think a lot of Asians are. He just has something extra. I like his voice, too.

China sucks. The end.

What dumbfuck would renounce their American citizenship for CHINA? Oh boy, this won’t end well.

Woke up to a new gold medal. Fuck yeah. Birk Ruud, you legend!

R497, Hanyu’s fans can be obsessive sometimes but it appears Hanyu had a hard fall in FS practice today and has generally seemed dejected/not himself. I’ve always liked his skating but I think the mistake may have been about more than a rut on the ice. He has repeated stress on his landing foot and maybe less control than he had in the past.

Yes, r504, but you should see what Alex Hall looks like.

I don't buy the "rut" cause for Hanyu's missed quad. Wasn't he the first skater in the second half (as it were)?

I'm watching it again now. Nope, he simply hadn't built up the speed, energy, or position for that first quad.

Hanyu is a beautiful and graceful skater, though. And the remainder of his Short Program was superb.

So are all the sports at the winter Olympic just variations of skating and skiing?

Oh, there’s luge! How thrilling..

[Quote] Hanyu is a beautiful and graceful skater, though. And the remainder of his Short Program was superb.

Overall he’s a greater skater than Chen. If he had hit his Short, he could have won again

Yes, of course, Hanyu "could have." But recall that Nathan set a record for SP points.

Both men have multiple World Champioships. Olympics aside, the skaters are close in skill and artistry.

Their duel would have been the premier event. Ah, well.

The last great duels were the Battle of the Brians & the Carmens in ‘88, everything since had either been anticlimactic, predictable, and-or rigged!

Klæbo won. He is handsome and a gentleman. Just like Bjørn Dæhlie was.

R495 True, there’s lots of country hopping but rarely do athletes renounce their US citizenship. Ideally, they’ll maintain dual citizenship. Gu (and Zhu) permanently gave up their US citizenship to become Chinese nationals.

Oh Russia, never change...

The US finally has a gold medal, courtesy of Lindsey Jacobellis winning snowboard cross just now.

Omg & she finally has a gold medal! I’ll never forget her losing what should’ve been her first gold when she fell while showing off!

Did someone on ROC Nation fail a drug test? Can't wait to find out what this legal situation is... with presenting medals.

I assume the winners wanted to wear something Russian, like the bootleg flag armbands they wore on their Opening Ceremony outfits that were prohibited.

I can’t with Nathan Chen and the flailing about. Can no one give him some lessons in posture, extension? His expression is non-existent.

OMG Lindsey Jacob Ellis finally did it after she lost because she showboated at the finish all those years ago? And it's the first US Gold?

Damn, congrats to that persistent airhead.

Hanyu was a great skater, but he's 27 and had various injuries. He hasn't been competing much for that reason.

And a divot on the ice? Preventing someone if his caliber from doing a jump? I don't buy it. He popped it. Singles skating is just so hard on the body.

Nathan's a musical skater, not a dramatic one. He doesn't really play characters. I am rooting for him just because I don't think he can physically do this for another four years and he is an extraordinary skater.

Wonder what's up with the team award. If there's a drug test failure, it would be really weird for the US skaters to get Gold.

R512 Yes he did. I'm very happy for him. You could tell how much it meant to him, he even cried. That first ski race was a disaster. Bolsjunov won by a lot. With the form Bolsjunov is in another gold will be next to impossible. This might be his one and only gold medal from this Olympics. That's why it was so important for him to win the sprint. I feel like if he doesn't get gold in the other races it's ok, because at least he got one, you know? Everything else is a bonus.

Guesses on the legal issue holding up the figure skating medal ceremony?

[quote]Guesses on the legal issue holding up the figure skating medal ceremony?

Russian doping, again. One of then failed the drug test before the event and ROC have been filibustering since. It's the reason they made the same skaters skate short and long - trying to compartmentalize when the rules say the whole team and possibly the federation is disqualified.

They'll cheat their way back in again.

Russia is a fucking joke. Full of cheaters, drunks, and whores.

Nathan Chen is a wonderful skater bitch at R519. Flailing? Fuck you. You’re trying to gaslight and doing it badly.

Y'all can judge Chen's "flailing" and not being "dramatic" for yourselves:

Maybe it's just me, but I could never fathom living in the U.S. and then going to the olympics to compete for another country and walking in the ceremony under that other nation's flag and with people you don't even know, while you look on and see the U.S. flag and congregation!...

And now, I say as a Weisenheimer, calibrate exactly how, in comparison, Hanyu is NOT "flailing" and is MORE "dramatic" (maybe he is, but then, he had just screwed up):

R525, I give Nathan credit for doing a lot of hard work between 2018 and now, because then I didn’t like watching him, and now he has a precision to his movements that shows he cares about everything he’s doing on the ice enough to dedicate enormous amounts of time to practice and presentation. Yuzuru’s style will always look different than Nathan’s, just being who he is, but I don’t think he’s as well-trained as Nathan going into this one. He’s had depression, isolation, and injury that made him uncertain whether he would make it to Beijing up until a few months ago. So style aside, the qualities that depend on endless run-throughs are not as precise.

For those complaining about Nathan's presentation, he'll never be like Jason (btw 528 has a good read.) or others viewed to have better "artistic impression", but from watching him over the years, he's made really significant progress. Fortunately for folks like him & Ilia, ISU has placed greater emphasis on more quantifiable elements, similar to FIG's adoption of open ended scoring in gymnastics.

R522, here's a brief article about what's going on. Russia manages to blight the Chinese Olympics--how awkward is that?

We had two medal chances today. Got a gold medal in freestyle skiing and silver in nordic combined. Very happy about that. The silver in nordic combined was surprising. Our favorite Riiber tested positive, so he didn't compete. Graabak was more than a minute behind after the ski jump, but he is so incredibly fast in cross country skiing he actually managed to grab silver!

Is the UK traditionally weak at the Winter Olympics?

Let’s just say Torvill & Dean we’re the exception, R532.

Ahhhh more ROC / OAR / Russian doping! Those athletes have proven over and over again that they can't win anything without cheating. Their entire team needs to be sent packing, medals stripped.

Fun video. I love how they can enjoy the actual surroundings after working so hard. They seem thrilled. Love it. Some joy for a change.

Was the 15 year old Russian skater roid raging?

R536, obviously, it’s hard to believe that the whole team wasn’t juiced. Apparently—with a caution that this is just from Twitter—the team’s doctor is an anesthesiologist who has been tied to other doping incidents.

How to roids help with this? Not being sarcastic -- just wondering.

I love the little space-suit panda. So cute.

(The official mascot)

R532 Obviously. They don't have snow, what do you expect?

R511, hello -- they made a movie about me.

R541, what about all the indoor ice sports? Not even hockey? Curling? Anything?

Is the doubles luge gay?

In Russia, drug cheat own you. Is fact of sporting life. What big deal? West only complain because they no good.

Just throw all the fucking Russians out, already. Enough is enough.

The dramas that often surround the figure skating events is one of the best things about the Winter Olympics.

R545 is Tamara Moskvina

Da, R548. Is correct.

[quote]what about all the indoor ice sports? Not even hockey? Curling? Anything?

There is a British Curling team at the Olympics. Bruce Mouat from Scotland is openly gay

To the poster who asked if "all there was" were skating and skiing in various forms:

Pretty much, yes. Add snowboarding.

The OC decided long ago that the traditionally-winter sports (at least in US colleges) of basketball, gymnastics, and wrestling would be in the Summer Olympics.

R538, the substance in her system was one that would enhance recovery time and allow her to train harder, and is also known as a substance that can mask other banned substances. I’m sure she trained as hard as humanly possible, with the encouragement of the adults in her life, because a gold medal would mean a stipend for life in Russia. To have to give up her whole childhood from the age of 3 or 4 training and not get anything from it would be horrible for her, but the system itself is horrible.

So it was The phenom female skater who doped?

Russia is a scourge on this planet. I know the USA has had its horrific shit to answer for, but Russia offers no value and hasn’t for over 80 years.

Tangential namedropping - Stéphane Lambiel was my student at Uni in Lausanne. He was barely present and flunked out or dropped out of uni. Cute as a button. I'd lost my gaydar with that generation. Also years ago I studied French in Geneva with tennis Olympic loser Michael Chang and he was super sexy (and straight).

If she gets disqualified and the Russians lose their team gold, then these Olympics will suddenly become a lot more interesting.

It’s time to ban Russia from the Olympics. Byeeeee

Ban them from the Crimea too.

And to think Putin is going to epically fuck up invading Ukraine. Russia is a shithole country. Useless.

Putin won't give the order to invade during the Olympics. He doesn't want to shit all over his bestie Xi's propaganda show. But as soon as the Games are over, watch out Kiev. Bad boy Vlad is coming for you.

My favorite over there has three feet- left, right, and 11 and a half inches. OK, close to three feet.

Take away the gold from the Russian figure skating team. Let her compete in the singles, but make her represent the Ukraine team. See Putin have a heart attack

Hoping that Chloe Kim and Nathan Chen can bring in a couple more golds for the US tonight.

I’d like to have (fingers crossed) congratulatory sex with Nathan after his skate.

Here’s the story on the Russian figure skater’s positive drug test. The drug is Trimetazidine, used to protect cardiac function in angina patients.

Who the fuck was giving an angina drug to a teenager?? These people are evil. And this Olympics continues to suck.

They just continue to cheat. I was wondering why, suddenly, all their female skaters were so phenomenal. Now we know.

Doping a 15-year old girl figure skater is just gross and pathetic.

Someone mentioned upthread how Russian Figure skating has just used up and spit up these dainty little girls. They've had one brieft moment in the sun and then never again because of awful injuries, over-training, crushing anxiety, anorexia and now maybe doping.

I still don’t understand why those Russian motherfuckers are allowed to participate at all 😡😡😡😡

They banned the fucking country because of doping yet they’re all there with their worthless Russian flag and their asshole, dictator thug.

I’ll say it again, FUCK the Russians.

I feel sorry for Valieva, but if this gets Eteri and her machine suspended, it's a very good thing for the sport. Eteri's wrecked Ladies figure skating with her disposable starved prepubescents who last one season. Think of the Golds that should have been won by Japanese skaters and the bronzes that would have been won by the occasional American woman.

The IOC won't do it of course, but ban Russia from next Olympics. Ban known cheating and doping coaches and administrators for life. The latter is important if the IOC really want to cut the systemic cheating. But then, Bach is out there legitimatizing the CCP's treatment of Peng Shuai.

These Russian teenage phenoms really do show up for such a short time. Sure they dominate but then are quickly replaced by the next one in the factory line. You don't really see one last for awhile like some Americans did back in the 90s and early 2000s.

I’m not Russian or American, but haven’t many of the biggest Olympic cheats been from the US?

The biggest Olympic cheats were from East Germany.

Canadian splatfest on short track. Damn!

Am I the only one that usually likes the Winter Olympics but just can’t get into it this year?

Let's just say there were lots of Americans in denial when Lance Armstrong was winning the tour de France. I was already a jaded ex cycling fan by then and I wasn't that invested, but man, I couldn't believe the credulity.

R574 Nope. There’s a dark cloud over this Olympics (I’ll still watch the skating though.)

Literally everyone dopes in cycling.

Men’s free skate live on USA now.

NBC has…snowboarding.

Has Miss Weir addressed ROC Nation Brunch's doping?

Is Johnny wearing a Chanel jacket??

Jealous ☹️☹️

It’s all the skaters who have no chance though they should show some of them. They stay on some sports too long in primetime.

Tanith looks beautiful as well.

They need to show the Mexicano 😬

[quote] incoming Stanford first-year undergrad

I'm surprised she's not attending a Chinese university.

R577, exactly, but somehow, cancer survivor cyclist who never did much in the TDF reels off 7 straight wins over a doped field of elite rivals.

There's a fascinating documentary called Icarus about doping - it's like an international thriller involving the director of the Russian anti-doping laboratory.

I'm addicted to curling. I'm just fascinated watching it. But the US Men's curling team? WTAF? They look like someone put a keg in the middle of a trailer park. All the other countries' athletes at least look groomed. The Swedes were especially handsome.

And yes, the men's double luge is very homoerotic.

The Russian doping scandal is the worst example of doping because it was state-sponsored. Government bureaucrats and the national olympic committee created a doping scheme that they implemented on a massive scale, even doping their paralympic athletes! The Russians even built a secret room at the testing control site in Sochi in 2014 to swap out the actual tainted samples with clean ones.

I’m watching the figure skating on Peacock and there’s no commentary at all. Does that get added for the network excerpts?

Yay! The Mexican did great!!

Gets some international exposure. 😍😍

R589 It’s on USA with commentary.

[quote]I’m watching the figure skating on Peacock and there’s no commentary at all. Does that get added for the network excerpts?

The commentary is on the USA channel. On the NBCSports app, you have a choice of raw or USA. I started watching the raw, but switched to the USA to get the commentary.

what happened to Kamila Valieva? Is she still allowed to compete? I feel bad for her, her team really needs to take the blame here!

Donovan was shaking his hips on the ice like a Guadalajara street prostitute. I'm not unhappy about it.

Bruce Mouat is only 27 and he will undoubtedly get an Olympic curling medal at some point. Not for Mixed Doubles this year, but maybe in a couple of weeks with his men's team, which is superb.

Loved the Latin spice R594.

Sone of these lower-tier skaters are from some God awful places. Ukraine, Belarus, Azerbaijan…holy crap.

Was that Muse the Australian guy skated to?

R597, I think that was an excerpt from Prokofiev's "Romeo and Juliet."

R597, no sorry, that was the Latvian's music!

There was some Muse in it R599 Free Skating: Sevenlere Dair (To the Lovers) OP 12/3 by Fazil Say; 85 by Travis Lake; Emergence by 2WEI; Butterflies and Hurricanes by Muse

No, r571. What makes you think so, given the then-Communist cheating?