Jeff Zucker OUT at CNN

The real question is - how does a fat gargoyle like Zucker land a woman like this?

It's always the ditzes from Marketing.

The woman used to work for Andrew Cuomo, too! What a world.

She's no prize, either.

HOLY SHIT

HAVE BEEN WAITING FOREVER FOR THIS GARGOYLE TO TOPPLE

R1 The same way a fat gargoyle like Harvey Weinstein gets dozens of A-list actresses to fuck him. Power, money, and fear.

"Oh, you want to be a star, do ya? Come over here and blow this creepy fat Jew, and we'll have you on the cover of People next week!"

In truth, this scandal couldn't have happened to a more deserving piece of shit. This bald bitch singlehandedly wrecked NBC, then CNN, and apparently a few marriages in his personal life. Fucking dunce is as bad at managing network talent as he is at keeping his schwanz in his pants.

Probably the person in media most singlehandedly responsible for Trump

Shouldn't she be disciplined or fired for kissing up to the president of the company to climb the corporate ladder? Sounds like she's getting off easy here.

“Fat creepy Jew”

Did you really need to write this R6?

Die pig. Die.

She may very well be disciplined, we don't know and it wouldn't be released publicly.

If he outranked her then he's the one who's going to go down, that's usually how it works.

well Chris and Mario are going out to lunch today!

This is what CNN gets for trying to bring down the Biden presidency. I wonder if Wolf Blitzer will be reporting on this today with the same breathless urgency that he does with any negative news on Democrats?

Bring Ted back to make CNN a real news network again.

Too bad he's not dead.

Zucker turned CNN from a respected news organization to a 24-hour anti-Trump screamfest. Good riddance.

r7 beat me to it. He chose ratings over American democracy. And their ratings still suck.

I don't have a political axe to grind with Zucker as some of your Trumper/Newsmax types do (one of many reasons you should leap into the nearest grease fire) but he's compromised the integrity of the network time and again for ratings and clicks.

In a statement, Allison Gollust said: "Jeff and I have been close friends and professional partners for over 20 years.

"Recently, our relationship changed during Covid. I regret that we didn’t disclose it at the right time. I’m incredibly proud of my time at CNN and look forward to continuing the great work we do everyday."

Wasn't he scheduled to step down sometime in the next six months anyway?

R19, yes. He was supposed to last year but it was postponed for another year while they complete their acquisition of Discovery.

So really he's just leaving a few months early as he was going to anyway.

I'm a bitch.

When it rains it fucking pours

But a very cute, hung one r21.

[quote] [R19], yes. He was supposed to last year but it was postponed for another year while they complete their acquisition of Discovery. So really he's just leaving a few months early as he was going to anyway.

LOL, No!!!

He is good friends with the incoming CEO and the assumption was that he would be elevated in the new organization and would launch CNN+, the new online streaming service.

Bring back Bobbie Battista to run the network.

#justiceforkathygriffin

[quote] turned CNN from a respected news organization to a 24-hour anti-Trump screamfes

Nothing wrong with that

She used to work for Andrew Cuomo and assumption is Chris Cuomo's lawyers must have brought this up.

R13 Ted Turner has serious dementia. His foundation still does a lot of good work to help animals.

Allison stands about a foot taller than Zucker.

Could he have looked any more Jewish?

^

Why can't they all just keep their pants zipped???

Alison's husband is homely, too.

[quote] Zucker turned CNN from a respected news organization to a 24-hour anti-Trump screamfest.

CNN has always been something of a joke from a journalistic perspective. When they started, and for years after, it was VNR heaven.

But attacking Trump should have been the 24/7 obsession of EVERY news outlet. I’m amazed that anyone could think otherwise.

[quote] "Recently, our relationship changed during Covid. I regret that we didn’t disclose it at the right time. I’m incredibly proud of my time at CNN and look forward to continuing the great work we do everyday."

How do you disclose a secret affair? So your work is supposed to be in on this secret and keep it from their spouses? I’m fucking the closeted CFO right now. I’m not going to disclose it and destroy his marriage and his life.

r1? She looks like Jerry Seinfeld in a wig.

I'm curious, why are people saying he helped give us Trump? I thought MAGA hated CNN

R38 He gave Trump a LOT of airtime in the 2016 elections for sensational clicks and views. Even had Anderson Cooper interview him from Trump Tower, it was especially groveling and cringey. It helped normalize him to the public. MAGA would love Zucker if they had any sense.

[quote] I'm curious, why are people saying he helped give us Trump? I thought MAGA hated CNN

Because Jeff Zucker at NBC was responsible for Trump’s return to prominence

At CNN he also elevated him by constantly reporting everything he said and did at the candidate stage, essentially creating a self-fulfilling prophecy

Zucker also changed the new culture at CNN by replacing newsreaders with commetariat who would parrot and amplify Trump’s lies

Jeff Zucker is all of five days younger than DL fave Robert Downey, Jr. Who is aging better, do we think?

As I recall, in 2015-6 CNN prefered to air live footage of an empty podium at which Donald Trump was due to speak rather than airing speeches that Bernie Sanders was delivering at the exact same time. Because mere anticipation of Trump and whatever he'd say next made for better ratings than an actual speech by another candidate.

Also I hated Anderson Cooper's weak defense of the disproportionate Trump coverage back then. Saying well, Donald was always available for TV and the other candidates weren't and came off as more rehearsed. Of course he's always available, he's a media obsessed attention whore. It's your job to balance the news.

Zucker should be replaced by Elsa Klensch, who would bring style and pizzazz back to her former network!

[quote] As I recall, in 2015-6 CNN prefered to air live footage of an empty podium at which Donald Trump was due to speak rather than airing speeches that Bernie Sanders was delivering at the exact same time. Because mere anticipation of Trump and whatever he'd say next made for better ratings than an actual speech by another candidate.

Of course you would cover a major candidate rather than a fringe candidate. It’s the same reason all the networks covered Biden’s speech instead of Marianne Williamson’s speech.

"This populist Nazi scumrag was pushing himself on us day and night, so how could we not give his lies and ridiculous promises constant airtime?"

I wholeheartedly agree with R44, unless the option is Jeanne Moos.

[quote]Zucker turned CNN from a respected news organization to a 24-hour anti-Trump screamfest

CNN is all about Trump, January 6th and "voting rights" 24/7.

That's all fine and good, it's all important stuff, but people are concerned about crime, inflation, immigration, school mandates etc.

Like it or not, those are the things that Fox covers.

CNN and MSNBC have handed Fox the narrative on those subjects.

This is how dumb CNN is: do they really think people want to see dour faced Jim Acosta helming a show called "Democracy in Peril" at 9 PM?

"CNN launched a new show, “Democracy in Peril,” two weeks ago in the 9 p.m. ET slot, which was previously occupied by ousted anchor Chris Cuomo. Ratings are in for the first two hosts, Brianna Keilar and Jim Acosta, and so far, the new program has not stopped the viewership decline."

"Keilar was up first last week, helming the show at its outset. From Monday of last week to Monday of this week, CNN’s 9 p.m. hour averaged 556,000 total viewers, of whom just 139,000 were in the advertiser-coveted age demographic of 25 to 54. Compare that to Fox News’ Sean Hannity, whose competing program averaged 2.985 million total viewers Monday to Monday, with 426,000 in the demo, on average."

[quote]He is good friends with the incoming CEO and the assumption

"Assumption" but nothing was set in stone R24.

He may have wanted to stay, hoped he would stay, expected to stay but that doesn't change the fact that he was supposed to be going anyway.

What this does change is where he's going next.

CNN should've never gotten rid of Chris. That was a stupid move.

[quote] "CNN launched a new show, “Democracy in Peril,” two weeks ago in the 9 p.m. ET slot, which was previously occupied by ousted anchor Chris Cuomo. Ratings are in for the first two hosts, Brianna Keilar and Jim Acosta, and so far, the new program has not stopped the viewership decline."

How many viewers did they lose by firing Coumo? Did they disclose the numbers?

The media is supposed to be pro democracy. Jeff Zucker is why we're on our way to living in a authoritarian shithole country. All for ratings and the network is in the toilet.

Zucker is one mutherfucker I never want to see naked or bent over.

Good Riddance!

Well, at least he isn't married. (He got divorced about two years ago.). And most importantly, at least it appears that this relationship was consensual.

He had colon cancer in his early 30s, and he had two surgeries and chemo at that time. Then, he had heart surgery about 3 years ago. So, it's kind of hard to blame him for indulging where he can. Maybe that's why he got divorced...so he can sleep with whomever he wants.

R39 Cooper came off as an "enlightened" both-sides type back then. He looked like an idiot for doing that Trump Tower interview, on his knees by that tacky gold throne. I think he knew he fucked up after Trump won.

R53 Are those health woes the reason he looks decades older than he really is?

Cancer, chemo, heart surgeries, divorce, firings, etc. Take the hint, Jeff. God wants you to die!

What race was his mistress, though.

He’s ugly..she’s homely…good riddance!

Covid forced us to fuck.

Former CNN anchor Bobbie Battista has died at 67! / Mar 3, 2020 .......was DL aware ??

^ I can't believe my eyes!

[quote] CNN should've never gotten rid of Chris. That was a stupid move.

It was another Al Franken move. Cut off your nose to spite your face.

[quote]Former CNN anchor Bobbie Battista has died at 67! / Mar 3, 2020 .......was DL aware ??

Loved Bobbie, but today Monica Vitti died. And there's still no thread about it!

I'm delighted to be free of that braying jackass. But they should settle on a solution. I liked Smerconish a lot.

So what ever happened to Zucker's neck?

That's a rough 56.

After getting fired, Cuomo pulled his head out of Zucker's ass so fast it retracted. Quite painful. No telethon. Not even commercials with Kaleb.

Matilda Cuomo is starting the sauce as w speak.

[quote] After getting fired, Cuomo pulled his head out of Zucker's ass so fast it retracted.

What did Chris do?

It was long known Zuker was Cuomo's biggest booster/protector.

R62 There's been one for seven hours, you fat whore!

Didn't Zucker fire Candy Crowley because he thought she was too fat?

R1, as Kissinger once noted, "Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac."

good riddance and I hope whoever is replacing him takes CNN in a better direction.

it's beyond shameful that Fox propaganda network is the #1 "news" network

Used to really like CNN, I just want straight news. Dislike all commentators. It seems the Jeff's, both Zucker and Toobin need to let up on the Viagra.

R1- Do gargoyles GORGE themselves on GORGONZOLA?

I mix up Jeffs Zucker and Bezos.

Bezos is the one with the nipples.

So? CNN hasn't been relevant since Ted Turner sold it.

They have lost over 80% YES EIGHTY, in the last two years.

It's a mere shell of what it once was.

thought he was the head of FB

Brian Stelter just said on CNN that Chris Cuomo was going to court to get paid out the millions due in his full contract after his firing and "he was not going quietly". Stelter literally said - on air - "as a source said to me earlier today he (Cuomo) was trying to burn the place down. He was going to court trying to burn the place down and claiming that he had incriminating information and Zucker and Golluck."

Now somebody like Stelter seems the type who only jumps after being told and specifically how high. So what do you read into this? Zucker didn't disclose the relationship when asked about it as part of the defence for court.

Never the crime, always the coverup...

Who cares? Can't they just let the young lovers be? Why they wanna spoil it?

^ That was what Alyson Camerota was arguing on the desk and in this instance she was right... technically she was a subordinate but she was also an executive, it was consensual, blah, blah, blah... but it sounds like when asked he didn't disclose and that's what's got him... because the omission reflects either on him or, more likely if the Stelter thing is right, created problems for CNN legally in other litigation.

This is going to be great because if they trotted Pugsley out to break the news about a Cuomo connection, it's going to get ugly and public.

Hurrah!

As I said at R28, the assumption (which now seems is accurate) was the Cuomo's people were going to leak this to Fox and anyone else who would listen as a "negotiating point" and this is just CNN getting out ahead of it. Clearly the fact they were having an affair for many years was an open secret at CNN.

Also, IIRC, when he was named producer of the Today Show when he was 30 (not yet 30?) much of the commentary was about how even at such a young age he looked like a middle aged man, bald and pudgy

When I head this announcement I immediately thought of Chris and Andrew. This is payback. A very Italian move.

^^^This.

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Watch out. You’ll get red tagged for linking to the Daily Mail.

Totally not the real reason he is leaving abruptly.

There's more than just a failure to report it at the start.

This is a forced resignation by the board so they don't release the REAL reason he is resigning, which was likely uncovered in the Cuomo affair, probably that he was helping Andrew Cuomo.

Somewhere Kathy Griffin is laughing

Now Trump has called Zucker a "world class sleaze bag" because of the affair. Unbelievable.

[quote]I don't have a political axe to grind with Zucker as some of your Trumper/Newsmax types do

People like Zucker are far worse than Newsmax because at least Newsmax doesn't pretend they aren't a repugnant mouthpiece for Trump. Meanwhile, that Zucker asshole hangs out with the Kushners.

Interesting - the Daily Mail piece shows how Katie Couric all but said they were fucking in her memoir.

Hard to feel bad for him--he will still wind up with millions

And R91, I believe the correct term for that is "projection"

Jeff Zucker's head looks like a HARD BOILED EGG.

Damn, that broad must have been desperate for some dick to let that hog mount her.

[quote]So? CNN hasn't been relevant since Ted Turner sold it.

Exactly. I stopped watching a couple of years after he sold it. It just sucked so bad. Neocon shit.

CNN was great when it started. It was just the news and they even had a show about international news.

They really lost their way during the 2016 election with free advertising for Trump. Now, with "breaking news" happening all day long and the evening shows (Erin Burnett, Anderson Cooper, formerly Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon) just regurgitate all the same shit. It's boring.

The cable news shows are popular with other journalists but not so much with the American public.

Their audiences keep on shrinking and the average viewer is over 60. (Similar to Datalounge)

CNN+ was their hope to avoid irrelevance, but it's sort of a Hail Mary Pass.

First Whoopi, and now this? OMG

[quote]Now, with "breaking news" happening all day long and the evening shows (Erin Burnett, Anderson Cooper, formerly Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon) just regurgitate all the same shit. It's boring.

Jan 27th:

"Fox News’ 11 p.m. talk show Gutfeld! tripled its time slot competitors on CNN and MSNBC in the key 25-54 age demographic on Wednesday.

"The Greg Gutfeld hosted show pulled in 349,000 demo viewers compared to Don Lemon Tonight’s 101,000 ..."

When even Greg Gutfeld can trounce you in the ratings, then you know it's over.

Looks obvious that it was Chris Cuomo who ratted out Zucker. If he was going down, he was taking down Zucker.

How gross for any woman that between Zucker and Cuomo, they're fucking the former. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

He comes off just like one of the alpha male characters in Reese and Jennifers - The Morning Show.

n an unrelated story, former CNN anchor Leon Harris has been arrested for DUI and trying to leave the scene of an accident.

Oh, damn. Not Leon! I enjoyed watching him on the DC local news.

I forgot about Leon Harris. I had impure thoughts about him. Sort of a prehistoric Victor Blackwell. I would sell my soul for one night with Victor Blackwell.

They have to stop with Breaking News! It's pathetic at this point.

I can see Leon doing that TBH…the man is no Jim Vance.

It’s healthier for society that fewer people are glued to these infotainment shows. It’s too bad that Fox, Ben Shapiro, and Joe Rogan appear to be brain-poisoning a whole new generation of under-achieving guys.

Some people are calling out Zucker for enabling and promoting Trump for ratings. Zucker is a sellout scum.

Many people R110

R39, you’re not wrong, but I’m going to point out that MSNBC did the same. Morning Joe would have Trump on every morning, letting him promote himself and bloviate. Mika would sit there and simper like an idiot, sometimes protesting weakly like Donald was a naughty little school boy. It reminded me of Howard Stern and Robin Quivers.

Anyway, they gave him a LOT of free air time. Pissed me right off.

Sounds like Chris Cuomo blew the whistle on him as payback for his recent sacking.

Thanks for playing R113!!

I'd love to get a job at CNN, but I don't think I'm sexually perverted enough to qualify.

Jeff Zucker didn't just promote Trump on CNN, he helped craft Trump's image on The Apprentice for NBC when Zucker was running that network. All the MAGAts think Trump is a brilliant businessman because they believed all the bullshit on The Apprentice.

The Trumps and Zuckers used to vacation together and Zucker basically gave Trump the platforms to start a Presidential run, and *still* Trump turned on Zucker. You'd think people in Trump's orbit would figure out he's loyal to no one but himself but they keep risking prison for the stupid asshole.

It really is hard to think of any network at any time that's had a worse year than CNN. The Cuomo disaster, the sexual harrassment charge against Lemon, Kathy Griffin's rant against the network, the horrible ratings, the disastrous decision to put Briana K anywhere on the line-up....oh, and Jeffrey Toobin. Good for Turner that he doesn't know what happened to his network.

[quote] the disastrous decision to put Briana K anywhere on the line-up

Amen.

[quote]you’re not wrong, but I’m going to point out that MSNBC did the same.

It wasn’t just Morning Joe, either. I remember Joy Reid was guest hosting one of the nighttime shows and she was not at all happy that the network was interrupting her show to carry a Trump rally live. Not out of ego — she was barely able to disguise her disgust at giving Trump a platform.

Trump is a spoiled cunt who is a thing now specifically because "fake news" networks like CNN gave him a platform to spread his bullshit starting with his disgusting birther bullshit. He was fine with going on those same networks to spew his hateful shit towards the then current president and they allowed him that platform to be scum. He shows what an unpatriotic, anti-American pile of shit he is by virtue of becoming president and then expecting to be talked about by every media outlet like the North Korean propaganda networks talk about their leadership.

Trump shouldn't be allowed citizenship, He is not an American. And CNN helped create that monster.

[quote] Sounds like Chris Cuomo blew the whistle on him

I was pissed, yo!

Now, who's gonna blow MY whistle?

Now somebody needs to dilute Dana Bash. She's the head of politics for CNN. She licked Trump's boots over and over again. She's basically a Republican cheerleader. Smirked about it. And acted above it all.

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall....

What I wanna know is how anyone could bring themselves, even despite monetary rewards, to even kiss or be attracted to that homely whale. Yuck.

I no underzan same ez you.

Has anyone asked Matt Lauer for a comment?

So if you meet someone at work and begin a mutually consensual relationship, that is reason to lose your job? He may be a creep, but I would rather not work at a place that forbids people doing what comes biologically natural to them and hurts no one and is really therefore no one’s business. I don’t get it. Just think of all the Hollywood films about coworkers (will they won’t they- they always do) that are now trash. “His Girl Friday” could not be made in 2022.

We live in this weird world of symbolic propriety- that by the way does not apply to Republicans.

R127, let's be honest: As with Weinstein, it's never really consensual when they're THAT ugly. It's about advancement.

It wasn't the relationship. He was asked about it but didn't say.

At what point is someone supposed to “report” having a relationship with a person they work with (or work for)? Do you report it after the first date? After you sleep together? Only if the relationship is exclusive? If the relationship is consensual and both parties are happy, why do they need to report it to anyone?

And for what it’s worth, the woman involved is fairly high up, not an intern or personal assistant. It also sounds like it’s been off and on for a while.

Zucker should have been given the boot for running CNN into the ground but so far I haven’t read anything about the affair that would merit being fired. Even if he didn’t disclose it.

[quote]So if you meet someone at work and begin a mutually consensual relationship, that is reason to lose your job?

Only in America folks.

Zucker should have been given the boot at NBC for all the things he covered up.

It's principled, let's say. His resignation. And it's not involving a pretty young thing.

In this day of shamelessness, a round of small 👏👏👏 to CNN.

I wonder if part of him is relieved. All these guys with skeletons in their closet must know it'll hit the fan sooner or later. I'd be a wreck worrying about shit. If I were him I'd drop out of the spotlight, retire and take up an expensive hobby. So much less stress.

The top suits at NBC were quite happy with the way Zucker successfully covered up what was really going on there. They only told him to start looking elsewhere when the wrappings began to fall.

Now that Zucker is gone, I bet we’ll start hearing about all of the things he has helped cover up, especially at NBC.

Per R18's post:

[quote]In a statement, Allison Gollust said: "Jeff and I have been close friends and professional partners for over 20 years.

[quote]"Recently, our relationship changed during Covid. I regret that we didn’t disclose it at the right time. I’m incredibly proud of my time at CNN and look forward to continuing the great work we do everyday."

Calling bullshit on her statement about their relationship. The linked tweet contains an excerpt from Katie Couric's book that points at shenanigans going way back -- while they were at NBC *and* around the time of Katie's ABC talk show.

...and additional insight into the Zucker/Gollust/brothers Cuomo relationship.

It's the company policy, he disregarded it.

Good riddance

They said they even live in the same building!!!!

resigning for a consensual affair? I bet there sis more to it than that. Stay tuned. More will be disclosed.

Every word out of Zucker's mouth is a lie, including "and" and "the."

I think he's a great guy.

Kathy's on a roll on her Twitter machine. Good times...

Allison GolLUST? This character name is a little too on the nose.

Time for a little Chris celebration. Sorry but I can only find this clip on Posobiec’s Twitter. But let’s just focus on the sexy af dad dance!

Zucker is so fucking homely! Who’d want him!

He's shorter than her

Doesn't he shit into a bag? He had colon cancer in his mid-30s.

What woman would want a midget with an ostomy?

RuthLESS people indeed

This is a non news story. The outraged staff is ridiculous. I understand he was a likable guy but he was hired by the board to shrink CNN and make it lean and profitable. He hollowed it out and made it a shell of its former self. Hundreds of reporters were laid off. They changed over to these cheap, undergraduate “documentaries” and a bunch of fluff. Jeff eliminated investigation journalists and switch to headline news only. And then shrunk it even more to political headlines only. And headline news channel became something else entirely.

He’s no hero to reporters or to journalism.

R12 I would REALLY love to chalk your post up to hysterics, BUT you're absolutely on the money. Not sure if they're trying to be fair and balanced or what, but Blitzer and Tapper are just two back-to-back hours of Biden bashing.

I'm going to MSNBC

For him to resign effective immediately shows that this was more than him just getting caught fucking some underling. I'd love to know if they paid him any severance. If they didn't that's more evidence they had something far worse on him.

They got rid of him so they didn't have to pay 18million to Chris Cuomo.

I miss headline news, I enjoyed that channel.

I feel as if none of the horrible things that Zucker did made any difference. He's not being punished for inflicting Trump on this country and causing untold damages, he's being punished for low ratings.

It isn't about the affair. It's about the honesty, fulsomeness and timeliness of the disclosure. He says as much himself.

Factor out the legal risk he created for a publicly traded company facing litigation in which it's asserted the claimant wants to leverage the relationship to his advantage.

He was the most or almost the most senior figure in the company. She was a subordinate peer. If there was no coercion, which there does not seem to be, was there a conflict? Was she the beneficiary of some advantage that was unfair as a result of the relationship? Did failing to properly disclose the relationship create the appearance of a conflict? Was deception involved? If there was, is deception consistent with the code of conduct to which employees typically contract as a condition of employment?

I hope none of you who argue it was private business don't have any positions of responsibility in publicly traded companies, because you're fucking dopes when dicks get involved. Jesus.

There may be darker reasons why they’re letting him go but they’re protecting him by not telling the truth. It’s a Jewish boys club.

R138... even messier. Good catch. It kind of makes Pugsley Stelter's claim that La Cuomo was trying to burn the place down look like more than just his usual corporate fart catching.

[quote]There may be darker reasons why they’re letting him go but they’re protecting themselves by not telling the truth. It’s a Jewish boys club.

FTFY, r158.

R158 and R160 sound like we're making Whoopi.

I think AT&T was to scared to make a change to CNN leadership, despite incredible decline in ratings, because they didn’t want to be seen as interfering with the news business. Now that the process has begun to spin off WarnerMedia, the necessary personnel changes will be easier to make. Hopefully, CNN can be revamped someday into a nonpartisan news provider, and be a real alternative to Fox and MSNBC instead of going after the same political niche as MSNBC.

Ted should have never sold the place. He said that himself years ago.

I just do people watch cable news? Just read the news online. It’s outdated and the overpaid partisan propagandists on BOTH sides are just awful. They all are obsessed with twitter and think things that are “trending” are of interest to most people and they aren’t.

Jane Craig should take over as head of CNN.

From Brian Stelter's newsletter:

-- Upon learning of Zucker's exit, many CNN staffers felt, as Dana Bash said during a tense DC bureau meeting with WarnerMedia CEO Jason Kilar, that "the punishment didn't fit the crime." Internally, there is a lot of confusion about why this happened.

-- With that in mind, is another shoe about to drop? Some observers think so, but no one knows, and nothing has dropped yet. "For many CNN staffers, something isn't adding up," NYMag's Shawn McCreesh wrote.

[quote] it's beyond shameful that Fox propaganda network is the #1 "news" network

That's really not saying much since the numbers of people watching any TV news has dropped precipitously in the last 20 years. Intelligent people have been getting their news from other sources for a long time. Fox is #1 because the unintelligent, uneducated, and bigoted are glued to FAUX News because they tell them what they want to hear. But even FAUX News has lost a large percentage of their viewers who've gone to even more far right crazy news channels.

R164, I'm having a hard time agreeing with the "well both sides are equally as bad". The likes of Fox and Newsmax are far more radical than networks like MSNBC. The "both-sides-ism" argument just doesn't cut it for me personally. CNN and MSNBC may be more liberal leaning but it's nowhere near to the extent that Fox and Newsmax push their own agendas with flat out lies and distractions, with no shame in their game.

In a sense, R167, what you're saying is that tv news has become the realm of infotainment (at best), with most real news migrating to other media and other platforms. I just hope the people deserting tv news are going to careful sources and not to crazy podcasts.

A lot of people I know have given up on the news media altogether. They get what information they need from the internet, newspapers, and word of mouth. People are just disgusted with the way TV news does business now. If the news isn't interesting enough to get ratings they'll make it interesting by exaggerating and outright lying.

R71 Yes. Candy Crowley was fat, but she was smart, asked good questions, showed experience, and the couch potatoes watching her liked her and could relate.

She was better than the legion of bimbo and twerps that have followed.

CNN once did international news very well. They need to get back to that. Zuckerberg did damage as the CEO.

^Zucker, not Zuckerberg

bimbos (plural)

Back in the day when anything happened you always turned to CNN, no matter where it was happening in the world. I think that's why I still pay. Which is stupid, because it's bascially talk radio on TV. And it's getting more and more bizarre, especially some of the odd choices on Anderson. He's got these little pet guests, like that minister, that hold him in thrall. I guess that's why I liked Smerconish substituting... it was substantive without being dull.

[quote]Fox is #1 because the unintelligent, uneducated, and bigoted are glued to FAUX News because they tell them what they want to hear.

"Tucker Carlson’s primetime show was the top-rated news show among Democrats between 25-54."

“In total-day viewership, Fox News grabbed 42 percent of Democrats aged 25-54, CNN nabbed 33 percent, and MSNBC got 25 percent"

"Tucker Carlson Tonight, Hannity and The Five ranked in the top four cable news programs with Democrats in the total viewer category."

r175, it’s not surprising since MSNBC and CNN have made themselves unwatchable.

R168, there is nothing lazier than the people who use "both sides" nonsense. So stupid to convince oneself that what Tucker Carlson or Ingraham or Hannity do is the same as what anyone at MSNBC does.

No, Rachel Maddow teaching you the history of what happened in/on Tulsa's Black Wall Street. is not quite the same as Carlson spreading his legs for a Hungarian fascist and praising him for his authoritarian moves.

MSNBC and CNN lie too. Look at how the Rittenhouse case was covered. They insisted to the bitter end that Rittenhouse was a domestic terrorist who was driven to the protest by his mom with the intent to kill.

The facts coming out did not change their narrative.

[quote]Carlson spreading his legs for a Hungarian fascist and praising him for his authoritarian moves.

If Orbán were black or brown CNN and MSNBC would be praising the shit out of him.

I heard that MSNBC is thinking about hiring him for an executive position.

Cuomo's argument that Zucker's conflict of interest was as bad as his own was bullshit. Zucker's situation created the appearance of impropriety and possible liability for hostile environment sexual harassment. Chris Cuomo's situation perverted journalism.

As the situation develops, it may be that Gollust's prior relationship with Andrew Cuomo gave Chris Cuomo a free pass.

Both Cuomo and Zucker had to go. It's Gollust's turn next. Allyson Camerata is an idiot.

Good God, I had no idea he was so homely.

I've seen prettier turds in cow pastures.

[quote] Intelligent people have been getting their news from other sources for a long time. Fox is #1 because the unintelligent, uneducated, and bigoted are glued to FAUX News because they tell them what they want to hear.

Unfortunately, the unintelligent people in the U.S. seem to greatly outnumber the intelligent people. And the unintelligent people's votes count the same as the votes of the intelligent people.

I watch "The Five" sometimes just to see their take on things and how Greg whathisface reacts to it. The smugness and conspicuous manipulation of information have to be seen to believe. It really is jaw-dropping at times.

I loves me some DirecTV news mix channel.

[quote]Allyson Camerata is an idiot.

I gotta say I am a huge fan of hers and I was thunderstruck at the extent of her reaction on air. I bet she regrets it. Her assessment was so emotional and so incorrect.

Dylan Beyers at Puck has a transcript of the meeting in which Jason Kilar told top talent about Zucker's situation, but you have to sign up for the service and I'm not doing that. But some tidbits:

Who or what the fuck is Puck?

kaitlancollins is fighting with the new boss? Ballsy. Who does she think she is?

100:1

Odds this tweet will be featured on Tucker Carlson tonight.

[quote]Who or what the fuck is Puck?

Wasn't that the smelly guy from the SF season of Real World?

This is an excellent analysis and criticism of CNN under Zucker, by Eric Boehlert who is an author, a legitimate journalist and a respected media critic. Spot on.

His blog Press Run is worth subscribing to.

So, question. Reading R191, Zucker should be the kind of guy serious journalists hate. CNN's newsroom has turned ino a Greek chorus. Am confused.

Im surprised this is even news, it has been public knowledge for practically two years now that Zucker would be resigning at any time. Can a kind someone please tell me why this thread is almost 200 replies?

TLDR

According to Katie Couric,

Zucker moved his mistress to live in the apartment one floor above him, while Zucker was married!

Don't you just loathe people like R193?

One would not use the word "serious journalists" to describe the anchors at CNN, R192

And R195, yes but they are easily ignored

That’s one fugly dude.

[quote] I've seen prettier turds in cow pastures.

We called them "cow pies." When fresh, they made great fertilizer. If dried out, they worked great in the fireplace.

r195 & r197 I just dont care enough to read the whole thread about something that I already knew was going to happen. And most of you think CNN is a joke anyway

[quote]We called them "cow pies." When fresh, they made great fertilizer. If dried out, they worked great in the fireplace.

Over here we call them "cow pies," too, but for other reasons. 😶

never fuck with a motherfucker.

r31 you mean white

r201 are people still getting high off them or are they just using them for portable fire torches?

Oh no, we just eat those deliciou pies, r204!

wow, the nerve to move your mistress into your building!!!

How much is this cunt worth? I hope his ex-wife took him to the cleaners.

Jake Tapper’s true colors showing.

Jake Tapper would be the same asshole who felt CNN wasn't being tough enough on the only two Muslim women in Congress. He constantly had Netanyahu's balls in his mouth. He and Blitzer have no business covering anything involving the Mideast conflict. It's like going to OANN for objective coverage of Trump.

JAke is also a huge supporter of all things military, he "supports the troops." and ripped the skin off Biden for Afghanistan in an unrelenting attack. He goes for drama and hype over being a journalist so of course he would support Zucker who embraces that approach.

The Defense industry lobby is a very powerful lobby. In the confusion, everyone seemed to conveniently forget that Trump and Pompeo made the deal and set the timetable. The actual shutting down of operations preliminary to evacuation, started before Biden was President. And where was the media when fat ass Pompeo made the announcement. This didn't happen overnight. They knew.

And as I recall, the fucking transition was stalled by the Trumpaneros who believed the election was going to be overthrown. Jake and others in the media fed the foolish notion that Biden "could have stopped this" when in fact he could not. You cannot just walk in to a complex, ongoing process, and hold up your hand and say, "Stop. Let's wait." Half the stuff you need is already gone.

Jake's odd. He comes across as holier-than-thou St. Journalist and a true Puritan, so I thought he'd think Zucker had to go. I don't doubt he despises the ego and mugging that was the Cuomo hour (I did too) but I assumed he'd be primly supportive of Zucker being exiled from the garden too.

Jake poses as anti establishment and claims he goes after all sides without fear or favor. But he was kissing Zucker's ass and resented Chris being so prominent while his brother was governor. He felt that the separation between the bothers was insufficient, and resented the fact that it was allowed. He's not anti establishment, in real life he is an ass kisser. and he is vey contradictory. If he resented Chris Cuomo because of the proximity between the newsmaker brother and the "journalist" brother, then he should also resent Zucker who made it all happen and condoned it.

Oh, my, things just seem so volatile at CNN. It is causing me great anxiety. Lots of negative vibrations and meanness. I certainly hope Andy stays far away from all that.

Notice how Anderson Cooper has stayed the fuck out of this mess…

If it doesn't highlight his biceps, he's not interested.

Anderson is a smart little grasshopper. And he ALWAYS benefits from being smart. Granny always told me, "y'all don't have to jump up and start dancin' every time you hear the music..." He was very straight forward about it when he appeared on Stephen Colbert. He sort of gently nudged Chris Cuomo, (his "friend") under the bus, but did it in a kind way...I like how he handles himself. I will admit, I would like to handle himself too.

From R207 article - "Acosta — who is CNN's Chief Domestic Correspondent — said Zucker's resignation will have a domino effect, likely forcing the network to face "pretty serious consequences."

"If we had not had Jeff Zucker here during the Trump administration, we probably would have been taken out," he said. "You would have something like 'Fox News Light' on CNN right now, no offense."

The general consensus is that Zucker is the one responsible for bringing us trump. CNN's ratings really tanked after he left office, but whatever. I'm not sure we'll ever get a clear picture as to what was going on at CNN over the past few years.

I would like to see Jim Acosta and Anderson in a flex off. Who has the bigger biceps?

It's like fucking Jonestown.

Maybe Acosta is referring to the Right Wing Extremist Billionaire Trump Supporter on the board who is happy Zucker left and wants CNN to be better. He hated Chis Cuomo too. He is also a Media Mogul and he is a vile bastard. I forgot his name.

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R220

Tapper is using Cuomo as a scapegoat, he should totally be pissed at the new boss.

interesting 🧐

I mean...that's REALLY how you do it. You get fired and then you blow up the guy who did it. Classic revenge fantasy.

Get your shit in order so that you can't be taken down by the help.

I'm confused, between the people saying he pushed Trump in a chase for rating and those saying he was forced out for not being Trumpy enough. I guess they could both be true—i.e. he gave Trump CNN airtime but it wasn't enough for rightwing board members.

Good predictive analysis here.

Interesting to see four specific names: Lemon, Cuomo, Keilar and Acosta.

May mean nothing. May not.

CNN is going to go the way of Newsweek; a once prestigious legacy brand that gets turned into a right wing mouth organ under new ownership. They're called zombie brands and CNN is well on its way to becoming one.