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How gay men justify their racism on Grindr

On gay dating apps like Grindr, many users have profiles that contain phrases like “I don’t date Black men,” or that claim they are “not attracted to Latinos.” Other times they’ll list races acceptable to them: “White/Asian/Latino only.”

This language is so pervasive on the app that websites such as Douchebags of Grindr and hashtags like #grindrwhileblack can be used to find countless examples of the abusive language that men use against people of color.

Since 2015 I’ve been studying LGBTQ culture and gay life, and much of that time has been spent trying to untangle and understand the tensions and prejudices within gay culture.

While social scientists have explored racism on online dating apps, most of this work has centered on highlighting the problem, a topic I’ve also written about.

I’m seeking to move beyond simply describing the problem and to better understand why some gay men behave this way. From 2015 to 2019 I interviewed gay men from the Midwest and West Coast regions of the United States. Part of that fieldwork was focused on understanding the role Grindr plays in LGBTQ life.

A slice of that project – which was recently published in the journal Deviant Behavior – explores the way gay men rationalize their sexual racism and discrimination on Grindr.

The gay men I connected with tended to make one of two justifications.

The most common was to simply describe their behaviors as “preferences.” One participant I interviewed, when asked about why he stated his racial preferences, said, “I don’t know. I just don’t like Latinos or Black guys.”

That user went on to explain that he had even purchased a paid version of the app that allowed him to filter out Latinos and Black men. His image of his ideal partner was so fixed that he would rather – as he put it – “be celibate” than be with a Black or Latino man. (During the 2020 #BLM protests in response to the murder of George Floyd, Grindr eliminated the ethnicity filter.)

Sociologists have long been interested in the concept of preferences, whether they’re favorite foods or people we’re attracted to. Preferences may appear natural or inherent, but they’re actually shaped by larger structural forces – the media we consume, the people we know and the experiences we have. In my study, many of the respondents seemed to have never really thought twice about the source of their preferences. When confronted, they simply became defensive.

“It was not my intent to cause distress,” another user explained. “My preference may offend others … [however,] I derive no satisfaction from being mean to others, unlike those who have problems with my preference.”

The other way that I observed some gay men justifying their discrimination was by framing it in a way that put the emphasis back on the app. These users would say things like, “This isn’t e-harmony, this is Grindr, get over it or block me.”

Since Grindr has a reputation as a hookup app, bluntness should be expected, according to users like this one – even when it veers into racism. Responses like these reinforce the idea of Grindr as a space where social niceties don’t matter and carnal desire reigns.

While social media apps have dramatically altered the landscape of gay culture, the benefits from these technological tools can sometimes be difficult to see. Some scholars point to how these apps enable those living in rural areas to connect with one another, or how it gives those living in cities alternatives to LGBTQ spaces that are increasingly gentrified.

In practice, however, these technologies often only reproduce, if not heighten, the same problems and issues facing the LGBTQ community. As scholars such as Theo Green have unpacked elsewehere, people of color who identify as queer experience a great deal of marginalization. This is true even for people of color who occupy some degree of celebrity within the LGBTQ world.

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by Anonymousreply 508May 14, 2022 3:01 PM

Perhaps Grindr has become particularly fertile ground for cruelty because it allows anonymity in a way that other dating apps do not. Scruff, another gay dating app, requires users to reveal more of who they are. However, on Grindr people are allowed to be anonymous and faceless, reduced to images of their torsos or, in some cases, no images at all.

The emerging sociology of the internet has found that, time and again, anonymity in online life brings out the worst human behaviors. Only when people are known do they become accountable for their actions, a finding that echoes Plato’s story of the Ring of Gyges, in which the philosopher wonders if a man who became invisible would then go on to commit heinous acts.

At the very least, the benefits from these apps aren’t experienced universally. Grindr seems to recognize as much; in 2018, the app launched its “#KindrGrindr” campaign. But it’s difficult to know if the apps are the cause of such toxic environments, or if they’re a symptom of something that has always existed.

by Anonymousreply 1January 30, 2022 2:39 AM

If the author is truly a social scientist, then he should just state the obvious: people have preferences.

Instead, the article sounds accusatory.

We like what we like.

If our dicks don't get hard for certain people, then are we supposed to force it?

That's just dumb.

by Anonymousreply 2January 30, 2022 2:41 AM

Fuck this researcher ! Stop shaming white men!!

by Anonymousreply 3January 30, 2022 2:48 AM

Why do black men want to hook up with people that don't want them?

by Anonymousreply 4January 30, 2022 2:49 AM

That applies to all races, R4.

Interesting how you single out black people only, though.

All races experience rejection based on their race.

Even worse, all races experience rejection based on their looks.

by Anonymousreply 5January 30, 2022 2:53 AM

I'm attracted to guys who are built like and look like the men from the town I grew up in but I never tell anyone that,

by Anonymousreply 6January 30, 2022 2:54 AM

[quote] His image of his ideal partner was so fixed that he would rather – as he put it – “be celibate” than be with a Black or Latino man

Ouch!

That was way harsh, Tai.

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by Anonymousreply 7January 30, 2022 2:55 AM

This topic is the gift that keeps on giving for hack journalists. I swear I've been seeing articles about racist gay guys acting racist on apps since at least 2012.

by Anonymousreply 8January 30, 2022 2:57 AM

[quote] the article sounds accusatory.

Yes, it's very accusatory and tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 9January 30, 2022 2:57 AM

The author is either disingenuous or low IQ. It might be "racist" to have have racial preferences in dating and sex but it is not inherently mean or punishing or unfair in any way. People have preferences. End of fucking story. Not everyone who has a preference is close-minded, a "bad" "racist", cruel, insensitive.

All of this reeks of the first decade of 2000's and yet here we are in 2022 and this dumb twat hasn't evolved. He has built a career on making a mountain out of molehill.

It's more than pathetic. It's sad and probably dishonest.

by Anonymousreply 10January 30, 2022 3:01 AM

Thesw angry accusations are like that disgruntled chorus boy in 'Hamilton' who was whining that he was being grievously mistreated by being employed in the chorus.

by Anonymousreply 11January 30, 2022 3:03 AM

I think we could take the author more seriously, if he also pointed out that there are black guys, latino guys and azn guys who won't date white guys either.

His study seems very one-sided.

Why not point out how all races can be racist? Because it's definitely true, especially on Grindr.

by Anonymousreply 12January 30, 2022 3:08 AM

r5 it's not interesting, the article positions it between white and black.

which, all n all, both reject asian

mostly because they don't want to be hit up by someone outside of their immediate area that is looking for a green card. . . which remains a collective norm on most sites.

all this shit runs parallel to the why you won't date trans or even straight girls that aren't trans but believe they're only attracted to gay men because back in 2013/2014, all the the rags were on top of that for the gay men are the most misogynistic evah. they reject women because they want to be women bs. that acceptable homophobia that holds a severe double standard, like gay cruiseships vs straight cruise ships, in society.

of course, we also got articles targeting those rejecting older guys, chubs, poz, drug fiends - honestly, that last one is fun because it's always by some white leftist that assume all poc are crackheads because they all must be poor too.

it's the fault of the regressive stack. victimhood status. . . because on the same token, no pun intended, if dudes are seeking out black dudes, then it's racial fetishism and slavery. how dare you!

there ain't no winning that game, so this line of questioning leaves most people avoiding those they might get unintentionally in 'trouble' with.

And let's also be real, if you are poc and you're dating a lily white lad, you're going to get as much shit from everybody -- all the damn slurs come out as if you had voted republican. Oh noes, you must have internalized self hatred if you're fucking with mostly white guys in an area that is predominately white, why aren't you going for that fat queeny poc over there instead, do you hate your own people? you only like men that look like men? erhmagawd that is so misogynistic, do you have internalized homophobia? are you even gay?

by Anonymousreply 13January 30, 2022 3:11 AM

Here is the DV:

Visiting Assistant Professor of Sociology, University of Missouri-Columbia

2015 University of Nevada, Las Vegas, Sociology - PhD

2010 Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis, Sociology - MA

2008 Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis, Sociology - BA

It all fits. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 14January 30, 2022 3:11 AM

the CV grrrr

by Anonymousreply 15January 30, 2022 3:12 AM

I bet if he tries this woke garbage on with a Sociology 101 class, the Missouri kids would roll their eyes. They know who they want to fuck and they say no to the ones they don't want to fuck. It's not mean, it's human.

by Anonymousreply 16January 30, 2022 3:13 AM

Here is where I am on this. People should date, hook-up - whatever - with whomever they choose and they don't have to explain themselves or rationalize it. However, what I don't understand is what's so hard about scrolling past or ignoring people who you don't want who hit you up? Why put something in your profile that's going to hurt somebody, needlessly, or show you in a negative light. If you don't want to fuck black or whatever guys, fine. If one hits you up, ignore him. It's really not that hard.

by Anonymousreply 17January 30, 2022 3:14 AM

When I was young enough to use the apps, is saw planty of black guys in Brooklyn who put just for brothers. What's the big deal? I wasn't hurt.

by Anonymousreply 18January 30, 2022 3:17 AM

r17 same reason you put in your stats and what you're looking for because it cuts out the bs and people know what you're about a head of time,s o you don't play email tag when you want to just hookup. cum n go. that's the majority of the scene. do you really want to waste all that time to tell people you reject them because their dicks are too small? Or whatever trait, attribute, whatever. It's less cruel to give a str8 up answer.

by Anonymousreply 19January 30, 2022 3:17 AM

The “preference is preference” shit is bullshit. The people who have “no blacks, asians, latinos” on their profiles get hit up by the ugliest / grossest / oldest / fat white men send photos of their assholes and micro-dicks (like everyone). So they’re allowed because they’re white despite the users general preferences going out the door.

It’s simply a racist superior complex to basically put “whites only” on your profile because that’s what it is.

by Anonymousreply 20January 30, 2022 3:18 AM

Do you want some white plastic clone who writes "no black no asians"? No, you don't. Why is his sexual preference hurtful to you. You don't even know him.

by Anonymousreply 21January 30, 2022 3:18 AM

R19 That’s not the majority of the scene. Profile descriptions are usually a sentence at best if there’s even anything there.

by Anonymousreply 22January 30, 2022 3:19 AM

[quote] Why put something in your profile that's going to hurt somebody, needlessly, or show you in a negative light.

I don't think these profiles are meant to hurt anyone.

I actually think people do it just so that no one wastes their time, on either end.

Who wants to deal with, "Sorry, not interested." "Why not?" "You're not my type." "Maybe I could be your type." "Sorry, not interested." "I don't understand what's your problem!!!" Etc. Etc. That's when it can really get mean and ugly..

It's so much easier to be up-front with people. We gays are very practical. And sometimes brutally honest.

by Anonymousreply 23January 30, 2022 3:19 AM

Why does it hurt YOU if some douche thinks he is superior in any way?

by Anonymousreply 24January 30, 2022 3:19 AM

r18 double standards in politics. some racism is worse than others. poc, like myself, are superior in every way, so r20 believes I can do no wrong. And he's right. Which is why he isn't fit to lick the soles of my boots.

by Anonymousreply 25January 30, 2022 3:21 AM

There is NO reason to see Jim Crow laws on dating apps.

Why don’t they just write “I’m racist” instead.

by Anonymousreply 26January 30, 2022 3:21 AM

And I’ve seen “dark skin only” SO BLOODY WHAT? It’s not saying to kill a race , it’s saying the presence of who we want to fuck.

by Anonymousreply 27January 30, 2022 3:21 AM

R27 Someone clearly has racial preferences in their profile.

by Anonymousreply 28January 30, 2022 3:23 AM

Some of you bring needless drama to your lives. It takes one second to ignore or skip over someone you don't want. End of story. They get the hint and you don't come off looking like an ass to everyone on whatever app you're using.

by Anonymousreply 29January 30, 2022 3:23 AM

I indicate that I'm a "bottom looking for a top" on my profile.

Does that make me discriminatory against bottoms?

It's the same fucking difference.

You wouldn't force a bottom to fuck another bottom, would you???

by Anonymousreply 30January 30, 2022 3:24 AM

Oh fuck off R30. You know it's different. Stop being dense.

by Anonymousreply 31January 30, 2022 3:25 AM

r30 yes. or you can go find an angry lesbian that needs to work out past traumas on your arse with a strapon.

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by Anonymousreply 32January 30, 2022 3:26 AM

R30 It’s not. Tops and bottoms aren’t fucking races.

by Anonymousreply 33January 30, 2022 3:26 AM

R29 But that’s what kills me. They’ll say “no blacks asians or latinos” or whatever and then all then put all the gross nasty white men on ignore in the messages. So ugly white men can contact you but no one else.

It’s simply racist.

by Anonymousreply 34January 30, 2022 3:28 AM

Another vote that is it is NOT different. Its exclusionary but so what.

People are trying to deny, that if there are 500 people on an ap when you are looking for some sex, or date, or whatever, probably only 10 are even possible matches for a fuck.

by Anonymousreply 35January 30, 2022 3:29 AM

[quote] Tops and bottoms aren’t fucking races.

But they're preferences.

And I feel like races can likewise be preferences.

by Anonymousreply 36January 30, 2022 3:29 AM

You can't MANDATE that everyone must be a possible match. Its just not how love and attraction is wired.

by Anonymousreply 37January 30, 2022 3:29 AM

I agree that my preferences are my preferences and absolutely no one’s business but when I was on the app, I got hit up with gross people of all races.

I ignored them and I ignored the ones who didn’t meet my preferences. I also ignored people who put their “XYZ only” preferences up front like that because it’s trashy and inconsiderate.

It doesn’t cost anything to ignore a message.

by Anonymousreply 38January 30, 2022 3:30 AM

Everyone doesn't get a star. Everyone doesn't get what they want. For crissakes people need to grow up!

by Anonymousreply 39January 30, 2022 3:30 AM

R39 Writing “No Blacks” in 2022 is mature to you though. Ok Jim.

by Anonymousreply 40January 30, 2022 3:32 AM

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by Anonymousreply 41January 30, 2022 3:32 AM

r33 but it's systematic of internalized homophobia, misogyny and it's rooted in racism even choosing to be a top or bottom, a sub or a dom, it larping slavery and imbalanced power structures. to be a bottom is coopting the experiences of women, black women. stop trying to steal black women's culture. why are you living your life in a heteronormative way, bigot?

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by Anonymousreply 42January 30, 2022 3:33 AM

R42 You can try and justify your racism all you want and downplay it, you just look racist.

by Anonymousreply 43January 30, 2022 3:34 AM

Some of these bitches the article is about deserve less attention not more. Their negative behaviour is getting them attention, why would they stop? (That's who trolls are)

Race doesn't bother me.

by Anonymousreply 44January 30, 2022 3:34 AM

Well I never wrote a stupidity like no blacks on my ap profiles. But I don't give a shit if some guys does it. Its his preference.

by Anonymousreply 45January 30, 2022 3:34 AM

r43 I can't be racist. racism requires privilege and power.

by Anonymousreply 46January 30, 2022 3:35 AM

The fuck it does! I've been bashed on the street 2x by black kids who targeted me as a pretty white boy and assumed to be rich one. Anyone can be racist.

by Anonymousreply 47January 30, 2022 3:37 AM

OP, don't be a fucking retard. People can like whatever they like, and no one owes anyone else an explanation.

R45, agreed. I'm not on any hook-up apps, but if someone said they weren't attracted to white men, I wouldn't give a shit. Hell, at least they're not wasting my time.

by Anonymousreply 48January 30, 2022 3:37 AM

Look. I'll preface this by saying that some of my best friends are white.

I don't know why this is so difficult to grasp in 2022. It's not about policing preferences. Yes, I'm sure you've seen examples of "no whites" on hookup profiles, but they're nowhere nearly as prominent. You know why? Because -- just like with every race -- there are wildly attractive white people, pretty hot white people, decent looking white people, average looking white people and downright ugly white people.

When you write something like "no Blacks" or "no Latinos" on your profile you're essentially saying that all Black and Latino people look the same... that they are interchangeable and indistinct from one another. I'm betting you would never say the same thing about white people.

Also... selfishly? As someone who still enjoys sex.... the idea of automatically declaring that an entire race of people is undesirable and off limits is so bizarre to me. If I have an opportunity to fuck a hot guy, I'm going to take it!

by Anonymousreply 49January 30, 2022 3:39 AM

r47 but y'are blanche, y'are. in today's politics, we call that reparations, dear.

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by Anonymousreply 50January 30, 2022 3:39 AM

And agreed R47, OP's one of those morons who says only white people can be racist.

by Anonymousreply 51January 30, 2022 3:39 AM

R49 Well it’s like why not break it down into skin color and hair color, age, weight and body type if it’s about preferences and not racism lol.

by Anonymousreply 52January 30, 2022 3:42 AM

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by Anonymousreply 53January 30, 2022 3:43 AM

R49 you are saying the same we are. It just doesn't HURT me if some blisteringly hot black guy writes "brothers only". Just move on. Another might say 8+ only. Another might say no FATs. These statements are all about them!!!! If some stupid white guy would NEVER EVER fuck with a black guy, what's it to me, or blacks? He's just a close-minded douche. NO cock for him!

by Anonymousreply 54January 30, 2022 3:43 AM

You mean to tell me that there's racism in the gay community?? Are you fucking kidding me?!!I

I call pure bs on this "study". I have never even heard of someone "preferring" a skin color. Even typing it out makes the idea is seem even more preposterous. The real question is how do people come up with such nonsense about gay men? I mean, gay men are constantly being portrayed as superficial, vain and chasing straight men. Where are people getting this shit from?

by Anonymousreply 55January 30, 2022 3:43 AM

PEOPLE DO BREAK IT INTO EVERY KIND OF BODY TYPE AND ATTRIBUTE AND CLASS, too. people sort based on many factors besides ethnicity.

by Anonymousreply 56January 30, 2022 3:44 AM

r55 sjws of ol'... just the policing of sexuality when it meets intersectional politics.

let's all just agree rather than saying no blacks

say you don't like grape soda, fried chicken, watermelon or govt cheese.

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by Anonymousreply 57January 30, 2022 3:45 AM

R14's profile of the author and his education is unsurprising. He thinks he's plunging into unknown territory but this has been written about countless of times.

How come no one writes about the STRAIGHT apps and racism? It's always the white gay men being attacked. Yes - there are some assholes among us.

But I don't think attractive Latino or Black or Asian men are sitting at home not getting any dates. I don't buy that for a second.

This guy has taken his nightime activities on gay apps and trying to build a fucking career off of it and it just reeks of simplemindedness and a small town white boy thinking he's done something new and cutting edge. It's not.

Call me when the straight apps are free of racism.

by Anonymousreply 58January 30, 2022 3:47 AM

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by Anonymousreply 59January 30, 2022 3:48 AM

It seems to be about people who are either angry about their value on the meat market or deluded about it, and grasping.

by Anonymousreply 60January 30, 2022 3:48 AM

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by Anonymousreply 61January 30, 2022 3:50 AM

It's like becoming a school teacher and then bitching and moaning that its not fair you can't live like your college buddies who went to work in finance. Complain all you want but you aren't going to change the system. You can opt out of the system. If you don't like the arduous meat market on Grindr, because you only have a certain value as a commodity, then move to another venue where you will get rewarded.

by Anonymousreply 62January 30, 2022 3:53 AM
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by Anonymousreply 63January 30, 2022 3:59 AM

You .. must... love... me.....

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by Anonymousreply 64January 30, 2022 3:59 AM
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by Anonymousreply 65January 30, 2022 3:59 AM
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by Anonymousreply 66January 30, 2022 4:00 AM

What I also hate - and thinks is a total bitch move - is to then make the claim that 'this one guy' would rather be celibate than date a Latino or Black man.

That's not the only choice - and it presumes that this white guy who would get turned down by every white guy out there - that Latino or Black men are so desperate for a white man, that any of them will want him.

This guy needs to get out of academia - he sucks at it and has no future with his lackluster credentials and this stupid navel gazing.

by Anonymousreply 67January 30, 2022 4:00 AM
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by Anonymousreply 68January 30, 2022 4:00 AM

The racists on this thread are trying to frame this as they are just mad because they don't want to hook up with them. No one is saying you can't be your racist selves and fuck only white guys, but why broadcast it to the world? I miss the days when people hid that shit. It's hard enough being gay, without making your fellow gays feel like shit.

by Anonymousreply 69January 30, 2022 4:00 AM

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by Anonymousreply 70January 30, 2022 4:03 AM

R69, "No one is saying you can't be your racist selves and fuck only white guys"

How about " No one is saying you can't be your racist selves and fuck only black guys" or Brown guys, or whomever. YOUR emphasis is only on white guys, which seems pretty fucking racist.

by Anonymousreply 71January 30, 2022 4:05 AM

[quote]I miss the days when people hid that shit.

And when was THAT? The complaints in this article have been constantly discussed for at least a decade now. Pretty much since Grindr became popular.

by Anonymousreply 72January 30, 2022 4:06 AM

Personal sexual attraction and preference has little to do with racism, and those who peddle such a connection – almost ALWAYS colored guys who secretly or not so secretly are DESPERATE to engage with white men, need to look at themselves and examine their own needs, rather than accuse others of the spook of racism.

by Anonymousreply 73January 30, 2022 4:25 AM

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by Anonymousreply 74January 30, 2022 4:30 AM

r69 where were you on the hairy holes thread speaking out against all the anti-hairy hole dudes. that is straight up racist.

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by Anonymousreply 75January 30, 2022 4:30 AM

I think that 20 year olds are ageist when they say no one over 30., Why are the prejudiced against a 65 year old fat man?

by Anonymousreply 76January 30, 2022 4:31 AM

I would bet ANY MONEY that OPs 'study' springs out of his own feelings of internalised racial inadequacy. Here's a tip luv: get over it, and get on with your life.

by Anonymousreply 77January 30, 2022 4:32 AM

Correction: internalised racial, gender, or appearance inadequacy.

Ascribing racism to what may be pure personal preference is just absolutely toxic, and ridiculously, dangerously wrong.

by Anonymousreply 78January 30, 2022 4:49 AM

Oh god another bitter thread from tinymeat Asian bottom hos. Bitches will cut a careless daddy.

by Anonymousreply 79January 30, 2022 5:04 AM

So it's okay to say you're only interested in bottoms, or in super chubs, or in smooth butts, or in fit not fat, or only in guys who are 45-55, but you can't say you're only into guys who are latino, or guys who aren't latino?

I don't like that all the hookup apps won't let you search by race.

by Anonymousreply 80January 30, 2022 5:12 AM

I feel like I know where 90% of this thread's posters were on January 6

by Anonymousreply 81January 30, 2022 5:58 AM

Most gay black men do not date white guys. Nobody makes them feel bad about it.

by Anonymousreply 82January 30, 2022 6:35 AM

The Woke-Marxist Generation says we need to learn to hate ourself.

by Anonymousreply 83January 30, 2022 6:44 AM

I'll bet R73 really enjoyed typing "colored" and "spook."

by Anonymousreply 84January 30, 2022 6:45 AM

In all seriousness, why’s should we be worried about racism on an app, concentrate on ending racism in the streets.

by Anonymousreply 85January 30, 2022 6:48 AM

[quote] concentrate on ending racism in the streets.

I'm sorry, R85, I've got a full-time job and chasing freelance work in my free time so I can't join you in your suggested street work.

by Anonymousreply 86January 30, 2022 7:34 AM

[quote] I think we could take the author more seriously, if he also pointed out that there are black guys, latino guys and azn guys who won't date white guys either.

The article is about the psychology of BROADCASTING your 'preference' on a hookup app. There is something cruel underlying the need to express a racial preference. What's the point when you only respond to 1 out of every 20 guys that hit you up? Why should any of those 19 guys be made aware that I didn't respond to them because of their race or ethnicity?

by Anonymousreply 87January 30, 2022 7:37 AM

Have you ever been on a dating app darling?

Dating app developers were put under pressure from screechy gay minority groups to REMOVE racial preference filters, which they've caved in over. (The subtext of all this is: white/black men won't date us - lower the drawbridge so we can pester them!) So people have been FORCED to be blunt upfront.

Few things are more tedious than deleting unwanted messages from those you're uninterested in - and if you're pretty they would be a blizzard. Minority groups can be unsufferable in their demands, and the double minority groups doubly insufferable. While their demands to have the filters removed were understandable, they weren't in the best interests of the majority of users. When a "I don't give a fuck" Russian developer releases a dating app with all the filters users desire, expect a mass exodus of users to it -- until the existing ones are forced to restore the filters. The MARKET ultimately rules.

by Anonymousreply 88January 30, 2022 8:15 AM

Nothing how the article says nothing about all the Black men on Grindr that only want other Black men. I suppose we will be told that is okay because those Black men are just seeking out “a support network” and feel “unsafe” with White men.

Also, the article is about 10 years too late. I rarely see anyone on Grindr anymore who puts a race preference, How dare someone be upfront about what they want in a random hook up!

by Anonymousreply 89January 30, 2022 8:20 AM

[quote] Why should any of those 19 guys be made aware that I didn't respond to them because of their race or ethnicity?

Why does it matter, R87. I agree that it is tacky, and I don’t have that on my profile, mainly because I don’t have a preference. But why should a stranger care if I want to fuck them or not? I see people say the only want someone who is masculine or feminine. That makes me feel bad as someone who is pretty much in between. Should take be removed? What about all the Trans on Grindr who only want T4T? Why is that okay?

by Anonymousreply 90January 30, 2022 8:24 AM

Only whores use GrindR, should I really be worried about what whores politics are?

by Anonymousreply 91January 30, 2022 8:27 AM

Black man, black man, where did you shoot your cum?

by Anonymousreply 92January 30, 2022 9:12 AM

R92 That old woman on Designing Women?

by Anonymousreply 93January 30, 2022 9:16 AM

We all have our preferences. Any decent human knows not to be cruel or insensitive in pursuing those preferences. Stating ethnic preferences is fucking rude. There are other ways to get what you want.

by Anonymousreply 94January 30, 2022 9:55 AM

[quote] Stating ethnic preferences is fucking rude.

So rude. It's unacceptable in polite society.

by Anonymousreply 95January 30, 2022 10:40 AM

My mommy says if I bring home a big Black boyfriend

it'll be too tempting for my daddy...he has an itchy bussy!

by Anonymousreply 96January 30, 2022 11:17 AM

At my old age, my preference is any male with a pulse.

by Anonymousreply 97January 30, 2022 11:47 AM

9/10 times the “I don’t date blacks/Asians/etc” white gays have racist beliefs. So it’s not really just preference.

by Anonymousreply 98January 30, 2022 11:51 AM

[quote]Since 2015 I’ve been studying LGBTQ culture and gay life

I knew I should have bought stock in Kleenex.

by Anonymousreply 99January 30, 2022 11:58 AM

It's odd that you can add your race in your profile but you can't search by race.

by Anonymousreply 100January 30, 2022 12:06 PM

As a self described "fat, femme" how do you think I feel? Pass the tissue, r99.

by Anonymousreply 101January 30, 2022 12:10 PM

So what. Blacks have the most problem with interracial relationships. If people put “no blacks”, who cares. People don’t like bald guys, I’m bald, who cares.

by Anonymousreply 102January 30, 2022 12:14 PM

I am not attracted to women, but I ain't misogynist, unlike many straight guys.

by Anonymousreply 103January 30, 2022 12:35 PM

Life is too short and we are gay, so the pool of men is too short.

There are attractive men of ALL races and I pride myself of being willing to engage with “every color of the rainbow.”

Think of it that way. Are you really trying to only date a small subset (I.e. white) of men out there? Can one see how this limits themselves, prolongs the dating process/fun?

White gays w/ “preferences”, can you speak on this “every color of the rainbow” concept? Have you only drawn pictures with your favorite color your whole life?

White gays are like candy. Tasty, sweet, pink—I’d hook up with them, but they’re not a “full meal.” I need to be able to bring a REAL meal home to Mom.

by Anonymousreply 104January 30, 2022 1:00 PM

OP is just angry no white guys want to fuck his black ass. Bitch please. Logically, this is just one step removed from ugly people bitching that hotties are prejudiced against them for being aesthetically challenged.

by Anonymousreply 105January 30, 2022 1:11 PM

We’re talking about messy hookups on Grindr and are concerned about scruples?

by Anonymousreply 106January 30, 2022 1:19 PM

R106 I never concern myself with Judith Krantz novels when planning to fuck someone.

by Anonymousreply 107January 30, 2022 1:23 PM

That’s hilarious, R107, because that book is the first thing that popped into my head when I typed that…

by Anonymousreply 108January 30, 2022 1:32 PM

I would not be offended in the slightest if someone stated he didn’t like Balkanic or Slavic guys. You Americans are just too touchy.

by Anonymousreply 109January 30, 2022 1:37 PM

R105 are you mental?

The op didn't write the article. It was posted on another website.

I swear, some of you people are so fucking stupid!

by Anonymousreply 110January 30, 2022 1:51 PM

As a white man who likes hot men of all colors, but won’t fuck bigots, I’m glad when guys post their racial preferences so I can put them on ignore and focus on the fuckable guys.

by Anonymousreply 111January 30, 2022 1:51 PM

They’re not bigots.

by Anonymousreply 112January 30, 2022 1:57 PM

R101 Just the one dear?

by Anonymousreply 113January 30, 2022 2:02 PM

I think it’s more about presence (what turns someone on) rather than prejudice. Some racists are hot for black men. Does that mean they really are not bigots? No, just fucked up. The bluntly offered, no this that and the other, language on hookup solicitation, sounds horrible but does not necessarily mean you are prejudiced. I am not prejudiced against overweight guys. Rather they don’t attract me sexually.

All the above said, one of the reasons I cannot stand hookups is the cold and cruel language in the pursuit of sex. In a bar or any setting (a party), my preferences don’t require a sound bite notification. They will play out and blend in more natural interaction where respect and small kindnesses are more the rule. I know how to politely rebuff unwanted interest as well as appreciate it when the same has been directed at me- we sluts know how to be nice.

by Anonymousreply 114January 30, 2022 2:02 PM

I was never “racist” when I was younger but now I am realist, I mean “racist”. Life experience.

by Anonymousreply 115January 30, 2022 2:05 PM

These are the type of guys who say progressive things in mixed company, but as soon as it’s all white, they’ll start bringing out the racism.

by Anonymousreply 116January 30, 2022 2:08 PM

[quote] They’re not bigots.

They’re bigoted enough that I won’t fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 117January 30, 2022 2:10 PM

If I’m called a “racist” or “bigot”, I must be doing something right.

by Anonymousreply 118January 30, 2022 2:10 PM

Nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 119January 30, 2022 2:10 PM

You guys could explain away Jim Crow. “Well why would you want to eat at a white only diner!? It’s not for you! Get over it! You just want access to everything!”

No one wants to fuck racists, white people of course. But I just think people of color shouldn’t have to look at “Whites Only” in 2022. Like I said, just say “6 inches, racist”.

White people love to be racist but never like to label themselves one. You can look back at articles from the 1800’s and still find “I don’t have a problem with negroes BUT”.

Lol.

by Anonymousreply 120January 30, 2022 2:13 PM

[quote] If I’m called a “racist” or “bigot”, I must be doing something right.

See, they’re proud of their racism.

I have no interest in dealing with that crap

by Anonymousreply 121January 30, 2022 2:14 PM

I’m proud of my realism.

by Anonymousreply 122January 30, 2022 2:14 PM

If you want to get robbed or murdered or both, by all means.

by Anonymousreply 123January 30, 2022 2:15 PM

[quote] Preferences may appear natural or inherent, but they’re actually shaped by larger structural forces – the media we consume, the people we know and the experiences we have.

Blah, blah, blah...

No one can place expectations on whom someone else should fuck. Being sexually intimate is a purely private matter.

by Anonymousreply 124January 30, 2022 2:17 PM

You can have any preference as long as you stay away from Neil Young's potatoes.

by Anonymousreply 125January 30, 2022 2:23 PM

It's been about five years since I've been on the apps (married now) but back in the day there were two things that were pretty much universally true.

1. People avoided Black men on the apps for safety reasons. That's even more racist, but the theory went that if you were inviting some random stranger back to your house (or going to his house) then you did not want to risk having them come to your house or traveling to a sketchy part of town. Given the overall riskiness of and app like Grindr this just seemed like common sense at the time.

2. Anyone who explicitly wrote "No Asians. No Femmes. No Blacks" (or similar) on their profile was to be avoided as they were both insanely racist and--more important--super high maintenance, the sort of guy who was going to insist on specific lighting, tell you he needed to call you "Sir" , tell you that you needed to be chewing a specific flavor of gum when you arrived, etc. It was a giant red flag.

by Anonymousreply 126January 30, 2022 2:29 PM

R74, trans females (ugly and especially not attractive) ARE NOT hounding gay men for sex. Gay men are deluded to believe this, when it is trans who get hit up by masculine, straight-ish guys and have more opportunities for sex than the best looking young white tops of gay apps.

And no, trans females who are usually bottoms themselves, want nothing to do with nelly, faggy gay men who are 90% bottom anyway. Cuts both ways.

by Anonymousreply 127January 30, 2022 2:30 PM

Trans are gay men who want “straight” guys.

by Anonymousreply 128January 30, 2022 2:31 PM

I am only attracted to Caucasian males.

I am just not interested in black or brown men. They don't float my boat. i am sure there is an exception or two but mostly no.

I know you will try hard to say it's RACISM!!.

Sorry, it's just attraction. You can't force me to align my attractions to social causes.

I aint attracted to women and I am not anti women. They just don't do it for me..

by Anonymousreply 129January 30, 2022 2:31 PM

If it's not okay to have preferences for races, why is it okay to have preferences for masc/fem, body type or dick size? All three of those - like racism - have their origins in societal perceptions of what is "right/good" (masculine, buff, big dick are good).

by Anonymousreply 130January 30, 2022 2:34 PM

That depends R127

There seem to be two species of MTF trans people.

One are very feminine gay men who seem to really do feel like women, often make attractive women, and want to have sex with guys, only as women, and will get bottom surgery if they can afford it.

The other are regular masculine straight men who want to become lesbians. They usually make very unattractive women and continue to want to have sex with other women, and don't necessarily want to have bottom surgery.

by Anonymousreply 131January 30, 2022 2:35 PM

^^By "safety reasons" I was referring to two factors - Crime and HIV/STDs

by Anonymousreply 132January 30, 2022 2:37 PM

I’m obviously referring trans women who are passable and attractive, R131. They are not begging gay men for sex because there are many more straightish men into trans than there are gay men, and the majority are tops

by Anonymousreply 133January 30, 2022 2:38 PM

[quote] So what. Blacks have the most problem with interracial relationships. If people put “no blacks”, who cares. People don’t like bald guys, I’m bald, who cares.

This thread was just race bait for a Klan Granny to type "no blacks."

by Anonymousreply 134January 30, 2022 2:40 PM

I’m not trans, racist, or old. ^

by Anonymousreply 135January 30, 2022 2:41 PM

"White gays are like candy. Tasty, sweet, pink—I’d hook up with them, but they’re not a “full meal.” I need to be able to bring a REAL meal home to Mom."

So it's bad when someone else has a preference on whom they sleep with, but it's Ok for you to have a preference on whom to take "home to Mom"? Just trying to get the rules straight here.

by Anonymousreply 136January 30, 2022 2:50 PM

Who says that it's not okay for you to only date men from your race? Date who you want. But why do you have to put it in writing?

If you're not into black guys, fine. But instead of saying that you could say, "I'm not into guys with kinky hair". Why is that better? Because not all black guys have kinky hair.

But if you want to broadcast that you're a bigot under the guise of you're just stating your preferences and trying to be upfront with people, then carry on. But don't come crying on here the next time the white republican legislators are chipping away at what rights you do have. White republicans have the right to think that you're second class citizens who don't deserve rights and it's okay that they're upfront about it.

by Anonymousreply 137January 30, 2022 2:52 PM

[quote]So it's bad when someone else has a preference on whom they sleep with, but it's Ok for you to have a preference on whom to take "home to Mom"? Just trying to get the rules straight here.

It’s okay if blacks don’t want whites, it’s not okay the other way around. Just like the vaccine. It’s okay for blax to be anti-vax, but not whites. Gays have a screw loose.

by Anonymousreply 138January 30, 2022 2:55 PM

"Who says that it's not okay for you to only date men from your race? "

About half the people on this thread. See above.

by Anonymousreply 139January 30, 2022 2:55 PM

Never been on Grindr. In the old days, if I wanted NSA sex (blowjob, mutual jerk-off, or more), I cruised. I'm American of Irish/Italian ancestry (white). Cruised all types of men. I prefer guys who are athletic/built/muscly. They came in all types of ethnicities and backgrounds (European -- northern and southern/African/Asian/Other). They all had cocks that got hard and shot semen. That jizz was the same creamy color and sticky (yum!)

If I wanted to date a guy, I tried to meet him through activities I enjoy (theatre, sports, museums). I've met all types of guys -- from all ethnic backgrounds. Again I like fit guys and they come in all varieties.

by Anonymousreply 140January 30, 2022 2:55 PM

@ R110

[quote] The op didn't write the article. It was posted on another website.

Sweetie darling. I know the OP didn't write the article. What has that got to do with anything? The OP is the one who posted the article because clearly they agree with it and share in it's self-pity and hate-mongering.

[quote] I swear, some of you people are so fucking stupid!

Agreed. But obviously no one here is as fucking stupid as you.

by Anonymousreply 141January 30, 2022 3:01 PM

More race-baiting BS from the woke Left. Hounding people for their lack of attraction to certain races or features is futile and pointless. You can virtue signal all you want, but at the end of the day your ass, mouth, or dick wants what it wants.

People often conflate race (particularly black/Asian) with a lack of desirability in gay spaces, but the truth is looks trump everything. An attractive/beautiful black or Asian guy will absolutely get more attention at gay bars than an average white guy. I can attest to this, as there have been situations at bars where white guys look right through the white and Latino guys I’m near and compliment me or try to get with me.

An average or unattractive black or Asian man will not get much attention but the same is true for an ugly white man. And the reality is that many on apps aren’t physically compatible anyway, be that because of their sexual positions (both bottoms), age, body type, facial features, etc. The majority of gay men on apps, or in person, regardless of race are NOT stunning beauties and will receive rejection based on looks.

Why only focus on the racial angle?

by Anonymousreply 142January 30, 2022 3:11 PM

[quote]But if you want to broadcast that you're a bigot under the guise of you're just stating your preferences

I do not want to have sex with women. Does that make me a bigot? Does it make me a misogynist?

by Anonymousreply 143January 30, 2022 3:15 PM

[quote]An average or unattractive black or Asian man will not get much attention but the same is true for an ugly white man.

That’s me! No attention.

by Anonymousreply 144January 30, 2022 3:16 PM

[quote]which was recently published in the journal Deviant Behavior

I would refuse to talk to anyone writing for a publication with that name.

by Anonymousreply 145January 30, 2022 3:16 PM

I would happily read The Journal of Deviant Behavior for tips and recommendations.

by Anonymousreply 146January 30, 2022 3:18 PM

People, of any colour, are entitled to their preferences. The woke crowd are pulling the same shit with trannies and fatties.

by Anonymousreply 147January 30, 2022 3:22 PM

Articles like this dilute true racism. In another more graceful era, someone would simply say they need to be more tactful, you would say simply , “That’s not my preference”, and the horny courtesan would move on…

True racist behavior is what denies jobs, housing or gain advantage in society. It’s folly to call out sexual preference as “racist”. It’s damaging to youth, their self esteem and warps self values. It fosters seething resentment among the races that cannot be easily absolved.

I think there are people FROM ALL RACES that make money from and capitalize on perpetuating theses disparities- and have MONETARY reasons or gather PRESTIGE from them. This why they want to push this agenda to the front and center, make headlines with them, and continue perpetuating worn out tropes and compare them to the past, dredging up the behaviors of forefathers we had no control over.

I have to question any article like this or the premise and resources spent behind writing them.

I’m convinced the wealthy one percenters are behind this to take all the attention from THEM while they’re robbing us and all our future descendants and pushing everyone into a lifetime servitude of debt.

by Anonymousreply 148January 30, 2022 3:34 PM

Lol R145.

I want to write for the Journal of Deviant Behavior!

That would be fun.

by Anonymousreply 149January 30, 2022 3:35 PM

R88 BOO HOO you’re so full of shit too. Because as said in this thread, there’s tons of demanding ugly gross fat old white guys who flood everybody’s messages constantly.

To pretend that discriminating against skin color makes your life easier on Grindr is such nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 150January 30, 2022 3:35 PM

I. Will. Have. Your. Dick. Whether. You. Like. It. Or. NOT!!!!

by Anonymousreply 151January 30, 2022 3:39 PM

R137 Absolutely. The same people on here writing “No Black, No Asian, No Latino” are the same people who will be screaming in another thread about some Christian bakery who won’t make a gay white couple a wedding cake.

They would lose their shit over “Straight Only”.

White gays cry over being discriminated against but when a person of color has to experience looking at discriminating profiles on Grindr, get over it.

And the disgusting part about this thread is white people still think “oooh you want to fuck white guys and you can’t”. Noooo, it’s about not having to see discriminating racist profiles.

by Anonymousreply 152January 30, 2022 3:41 PM

This is ridiculous because you aren't allowed to state preferences like this on grindr. You will get banned for saying things like "Only attracted to men" in your profile.

by Anonymousreply 153January 30, 2022 3:44 PM

[quote]The same people on here writing “No Black, No Asian, No Latino” are the same people who will be screaming in another thread about some Christian bakery who won’t make a gay white couple a wedding cake.

Not me because I know those gay people are trolling those Christian bakeries.

by Anonymousreply 154January 30, 2022 3:44 PM

And the other disgusting thing about this thread is the white people who believe taking down racial preferences in their profile is FORCING them to have sex with people of color.

Comparing it to trans people. Trans are not gay men.

It’s bullshit and a bad excuse for racist behavior.

There’s plenty of white men who prefer white men and they don’t have to state it. They don’t state it because they’re simply not racist.

You have to be racist to think singling out skin color is what’s going to “filter” out the unwanted people contacting you.

Especially when the most unwanted people on Grindr are old ugly fat white exhibitionist men who constantly flood everyone’s Grindr.

You guys acting like banning black people from talking to you only makes room for all the sexy white jocks or something lol. Over half of Grindr is gross old white men.

So spare me the excuses.

by Anonymousreply 155January 30, 2022 3:47 PM

What's amusing too is that I am sure that the "No Blacks! No Asians!" types still got hit up by both Blacks and Asians as people tended to not read profiles and just hit up anyone and everyone.

I'm basing this on the fact that so many of them started "PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE YOU CONTACT ME!! I AM TIRED HAVE GETTING MESSAGES FROM BLACK GUYS WHEN MY PROFILE SPECIFICALLY SAYS NO BLACKS!!"

by Anonymousreply 156January 30, 2022 3:53 PM

@ R148

[quote] I’m convinced the wealthy one percenters are behind this to take all the attention from THEM while they’re robbing us and all our future descendants and pushing everyone into a lifetime servitude of debt.

Could not agree more. The autocrats are laughing their asses off pitting us against each other. It's like a giant game of chess to them. And it's not the first time in history the top 10% has pulled this shit with the bottom 90%

by Anonymousreply 157January 30, 2022 3:58 PM

[quote] Noooo, it’s about not having to see discriminating racist profiles.

Uhm. Why not block them? Or better yet, why even care? Clearly you take the sexual preferences of anonymous grindr profiles WAY too seriously and WAY to personally. Sounds like a you problem.

by Anonymousreply 158January 30, 2022 4:01 PM

[quote]And the disgusting part about this thread is white people still think “oooh you want to fuck white guys and you can’t”. Noooo, it’s about not having to see discriminating racist profiles.

Funny, if I see "no whites" or "brothers only" it doesn't bother me in the least. Why should it?

If you are sooo sensitive what are you doing on those apps?

by Anonymousreply 159January 30, 2022 4:02 PM

My how we are impressed that the slow witted finally understood that OPs who posts articles are not the viewpoints in the article.

Now, this will really challenge your pea brains. Often, the OP posts articles because he knows the article is polemical and highly effective text to provoke a troll war in the thread. Its clickbait. This sort of article is aways clickbait on DL. As is anything about trans.

by Anonymousreply 160January 30, 2022 4:03 PM

The problem is it really isn’t just “preference” when you dig deeper. These are the same ones who are some of the most racist in the gay community and shun gays of color in their social life as well. They’re racist, plain and simple.

by Anonymousreply 161January 30, 2022 4:03 PM

[quote] There’s plenty of white men who prefer white men and they don’t have to state it. They don’t state it because they’re simply not racist.

WHAAAA? LOL. Bitch, you be crazy.

by Anonymousreply 162January 30, 2022 4:03 PM

[quote] They’re racist, plain and simple.

Thank you for doing all the thinking for everyone else. You must be a genius.

by Anonymousreply 163January 30, 2022 4:04 PM

[quote]The problem is it really isn’t just “preference” when you dig deeper. These are the same ones who are some of the most racist in the gay community and shun gays of color in their social life as well. They’re racist, plain and simple.

And there are black who shun whites.

But guess what? We don't care.

by Anonymousreply 164January 30, 2022 4:05 PM

It’s only a problem when whites do anything, which is dangerous and frightening.

by Anonymousreply 165January 30, 2022 4:05 PM
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by Anonymousreply 166January 30, 2022 4:05 PM
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by Anonymousreply 167January 30, 2022 4:06 PM

R164

I’ve never seen a black gay refuse to serve a white gay at a gay bar/club. The other way around happens way too often.

by Anonymousreply 168January 30, 2022 4:08 PM

[quote] It’s only a problem when whites do anything, which is dangerous and frightening.

R165 - As opposed to when black do anything, which is brave and laudatory.

Who the fuck snuck a computer into the psych ward for this nutjob to post?

by Anonymousreply 169January 30, 2022 4:09 PM

@ R168

Well then, if YOU never saw then simply it's never happened in the history of the world. Case closed. BTW, what the fuck does serving drinks in a bar have to do with cruising on a sex app?

by Anonymousreply 170January 30, 2022 4:10 PM

It's only just a preference. Why get mad about those Texans targeting gay marriage.

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by Anonymousreply 171January 30, 2022 4:11 PM

Oh honey, the whites don't want you not because you're black. They don't want you because you're vile and mentally disturbed.

by Anonymousreply 172January 30, 2022 4:11 PM

Non white gay guys who are at the top fo the food chain and have high value on the meat market don't complain about this shit. Most gay black and hispanic guys just roll their eyes and find what they want, EASILY. At least 50% of white guys are happy to jump in the sack with a nice hispanic or black.

This kind of 2000-2010 observation by the "sociologist" (WHITE) is mostly made by WHITE liberal "activists" or "academics" who are two stupid and ugly to admit that no POCS asked their fugly asses to be their "white saviors".

by Anonymousreply 173January 30, 2022 4:14 PM

It is amazing to me how some blacks are OBSESSED with white people.

by Anonymousreply 174January 30, 2022 4:14 PM

TOO stupid

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by Anonymousreply 175January 30, 2022 4:14 PM

Having preferences isn’t racist, simp. Some also list black ONLY on their profiles. It boils down to what you are attracted to. Most of us have a type.

by Anonymousreply 176January 30, 2022 4:15 PM

[quote]The other way around happens way too often.

Sure.

by Anonymousreply 177January 30, 2022 4:15 PM

R174 its not even true. It is WHITE "saviors" assuming gay blacks are put out by narrow-minded whites who say "no blacks". Blacks laugh. Don't worry, cracker, nobody wants YOU.

by Anonymousreply 178January 30, 2022 4:16 PM

Who cares if they put “no blacks”.

by Anonymousreply 179January 30, 2022 4:17 PM

R170

Because the app has basically become a replacement for gay bars/clubs. The same ones putting “no gays of color” in their profiles are the same ones who would shun and be racist towards gays of color in bars/clubs.

by Anonymousreply 180January 30, 2022 4:18 PM

“No gays of color” - lol! They’re not putting that. I love progressive (not liberal) white gays.

by Anonymousreply 181January 30, 2022 4:20 PM

[quote]its not even true. It is WHITE "saviors" assuming gay blacks are put out by narrow-minded whites who say "no blacks". Blacks laugh. Don't worry, cracker, nobody wants YOU.

Good. That's what we want to hear.

The whining about whites shunning blacks on sex apps is pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 182January 30, 2022 4:21 PM

It’s like the trans thing.

YOU WILL FUCK ME!

by Anonymousreply 183January 30, 2022 4:23 PM

Lol R183.

That's a terrifying thought!!

by Anonymousreply 184January 30, 2022 4:25 PM

They are The Backbone of the LGBTQIA+ Community, after all! And also the Most Oppressed (yet also the Most Desired, strangely enough - see R127) group of people in present times.

To be on The Right Side Of History™, you *will* give them what they want. RFN.

by Anonymousreply 185January 30, 2022 4:31 PM

Jocks and twinks constantly deny me because I’m chubby. I think they are fat shamers. Why isn’t there articles about people fat shaming on Grindr?

by Anonymousreply 186January 30, 2022 4:45 PM

R186

There is. Nice try, trolling dickhead.

by Anonymousreply 187January 30, 2022 4:49 PM

Trans allies who pat themselves on the back for being on the right side of history are gonna look pretty stupid when affirmation and SRS are looked at like lobotomies 10-20 years from now.

by Anonymousreply 188January 30, 2022 5:00 PM

This isn't as a much a white vs black thing as it is an everyone else vs Asians thing.

by Anonymousreply 189January 30, 2022 5:03 PM

[quote] Because the app has basically become a replacement for gay bars/clubs. The same ones putting “no gays of color” in their profiles are the same ones who would shun and be racist towards gays of color in bars/clubs.

@ R164 / R180

Oh sweet Jesus. You really just want to double down on the stupid, don't you? Where to start?

First, Grindr is not THE app. If anything, it is falling out of favor. There must be at least 25 other popular apps, many of which target gays with special interests such as bears, chubs, and silver foxes. I believe there's even an app called Flava (or something like that) which is meant to people of color and those who lust after them. In simple terms, there is no monolithic app from which you are being excluded because the guys YOU want don't want you.

Second, your earlier comment was about whites not serving blacks in gay bars. I see now that you've self-edited that out to simply be whites not hooking up with blacks in gay bars. Well, servers who refuse to serve anyone based on color would be committing a crime that would get them fired and the bar likely closed in protest (unless you haven't been to a bar since 1962). Further, as someone who was around in the late 80s and 90s in the bar scene, people hooked up with those they found attractive. Maybe it was interracial, maybe it wasn't. I never saw a black man ridiculed in a gay bar for hitting on a non-interested white guy. Never. As a white Hispanic, I have been with and dated all main races because I'm more interested in the person; however, I do like white or white Latin more. Gosh, I better tell all those black and Asian guys I was with that I'm a racist!

Third, even the stupidest among us most realize that people have preferences. People's preferences also change over time. I used to think red hair was gross, now it's kind of a turn on. I'm not interested in twinks. I'm not interested in effeminate men. So, am I also a self-loathing gay ageist? You are ridiculous.

DL should add a filter to eliminate all the morons on here, like R164/ R180, but then half the board would disappear.

by Anonymousreply 190January 30, 2022 5:05 PM

If you are not attracted to someone who taps you on Grindr, block them immediately. Don’t get into a conversation if your approach is going to be all out cunt. Be a lady, for fuck’s sake.

by Anonymousreply 191January 30, 2022 5:08 PM

Who I fuck, and who I don't want to fuck, is no one's business but mine.

If someone I want to fuck, wants me to fuck them, then that's no one's business but ours.

If someone I want to fuck doesn't want me to fuck them, I just get on with my life and find someone who does.

Get on with your own sex lives, and stop sticking your nose into other people's.

by Anonymousreply 192January 30, 2022 5:20 PM

Oh hunny. Fat shaming on Grindr is like throwing a hotdog down a hallway!

by Anonymousreply 193January 30, 2022 6:04 PM

I don't get why non-white races always try to blackmail and coerce whites into sleeping with them against their will to prove just how unracist they are. Maybe non-whites should exclusively stick to non-whites. It's just too messy and nobody should be feel obligated to sleep with someone they don't want to out of fear that they'll be called racist. Non-whites always dishonestly do this, and therefore will always have a giant chip on their shoulder because of it.

by Anonymousreply 194January 30, 2022 7:16 PM

Hollywood tries to show different pairings and give non-whites hope that they'll be able to sleep with whites, and then they just resort to name-calling and maligning the whites because they feel as if they'll be able to force them to sleeping with them. Whites don't owe different races sex with them. Whites should be for whites only, especially if you ever intend to stop STDs from spreading.

by Anonymousreply 195January 30, 2022 7:19 PM

R195 Yeah, especially since there are no cures for STDs (now they are called STIs, as if they are just infections that clear up on their own... Newsflash: they do not and are still diseases you have to contend with for the rest of your life).

by Anonymousreply 196January 30, 2022 7:21 PM

I like opera but can't bear Chinese Opera!

by Anonymousreply 197January 30, 2022 7:28 PM

Why is it ok now on Grindr to put "NO MEN?"

Isn't that 1) the height of hypocrisy" after the "Grindr is Kindr" campaign and removing race filters?

2) it's a fucking app for MEN!!!!

by Anonymousreply 198January 30, 2022 8:02 PM

R190

They go out of their way to make gays of color feel unwelcome and even implement some BS to deny them entry. This is an issue that has been widely talked about with several gay bars/clubs. And in some cases the city has had to step in because the discrimination was so bad.

These toxic racist white gays are the same ones flooding the apps and making gays of color feel out of place and unwelcome in the gay community.

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by Anonymousreply 199January 30, 2022 8:13 PM

This seems like a difficult issue for me. I am against racial discrimination, but somehow sex seems different. In fact, social relationships in general seem very different than public services and commercial businesses which should be available to everyone.

Is it okay to choose only whites if you are meeting in person? What if you only like blondes?

by Anonymousreply 200January 30, 2022 8:14 PM

R199

[quote] Are LGBTQ venues favoring white gay men?

Gay venues are favoring customers who pay the most.

by Anonymousreply 201January 30, 2022 8:17 PM

R201

Read the article, idiot. Or are you defending racism and discrimination?

by Anonymousreply 202January 30, 2022 8:19 PM

How do we feel about people putting what they DO like? For example, if saying “not into Black guys” isn’t okay, then is it okay to say “‘mainly into White guys?”. Genuine question.

by Anonymousreply 203January 30, 2022 8:22 PM

[quote] Read the article, idiot.

Can you give us a precis?

by Anonymousreply 204January 30, 2022 8:22 PM

The people that put “into white guys, redheads, blondes etc” in their profiles are usually black and gaysian snow queens.

by Anonymousreply 205January 30, 2022 8:24 PM

R199 people like this basically think black gays only dating white gays=good black gays only dating black gays=good Asian gays only dating white gays=good Asian gays only dating asian gays=good White gays only dating white gays=nazis

by Anonymousreply 206January 30, 2022 8:26 PM

I don't have a problem with the "racism" per se.

I have a problem with being so lazy that you cannot even go to the effort to ignore someone in whom you're not interested, as well as being so sexually voracious that you need to optimize your efficiency on something like Grindr by quickly eliminating entire pools of people based solely on race.

by Anonymousreply 207January 30, 2022 8:32 PM

R207 Well, I DO have a problem with the racism.

But, I get what you are saying. If you have a type and want to be limited by it, then fine, go ahead. Its your loss. I am not going to shame people for what they like sexual. But, why put it out there so bluntly. Just ignore the guys or just tell them “Thank you but not interested”.

by Anonymousreply 208January 30, 2022 8:46 PM

^^^ Then you probably shouldn't be on Grindr. It was originally designed as an efficient way to have sex based on geolocation and preferences.

by Anonymousreply 209January 30, 2022 8:47 PM

R209 Shouldn’t be on Grindr because white people like to make a big deal out of race?

by Anonymousreply 210January 30, 2022 8:50 PM

[quote]But, I get what you are saying. If you have a type and want to be limited by it, then fine, go ahead. Its your loss.

Nope, it's not my loss.

And it should not be your loss either.

by Anonymousreply 211January 30, 2022 8:52 PM

A lot of snow queens have serious mental issues.

by Anonymousreply 212January 30, 2022 9:11 PM

R209 Then simply ignore the people you are messaging.

I don’t have No Elder Gays in my profile, I simply ignore the desperate 40 year old elder bottoms who message me.

by Anonymousreply 213January 30, 2022 9:11 PM

I don’t put it on my profile, but I preemptively block anyone I see that I’m not interested in - the fats, the trans, the dinge, the fish, and anyone else I’m not into.

by Anonymousreply 214January 30, 2022 9:15 PM

The bald, R214?

by Anonymousreply 215January 30, 2022 9:16 PM

I don't get guys who can't get hard for people who have a particular skin color.

And I don't get guys who can only get hard for people of a particular skin color.

But maybe I was just a slut.

And if the dick doesn't move, it doesn't move.

by Anonymousreply 216January 30, 2022 9:19 PM

R199 I wonder if Philly Gay Bar Owners are different from other Philly Bar Owners or other Gay Bar Owners?

by Anonymousreply 217January 30, 2022 9:21 PM

Yes, r217. They are crazy rich. Stephen Carlino - who owns a group of Philly gay bars - is from the family that owns Penn National Gaming. Accordingly, he has coin.

by Anonymousreply 218January 30, 2022 9:26 PM

[quote] he has coin.

Does that mean he has haters who want to bring him down?

by Anonymousreply 219January 30, 2022 9:27 PM

No of course not. He’s a white gay man and therefore racist.

by Anonymousreply 220January 30, 2022 9:28 PM

It means that if he has haters who want to bring him down, he can use his coins to buy legal services to litigate them into penury.

by Anonymousreply 221January 30, 2022 9:28 PM

R217 How are the gay bars in Philly? I've never been, however I have always felt at a disadvantage in gay spaces because of my appearance and how gay men perceive individuals who aren't conventionally attractive.

by Anonymousreply 222January 30, 2022 9:29 PM

R220 You're being sarcastic.

by Anonymousreply 223January 30, 2022 9:29 PM

Not to progressive white gay men, no, R223.

by Anonymousreply 224January 30, 2022 9:32 PM

Are you in Philly, r222?

The gay bars in Philly are ok. There are TONS more younger women at them. We rarely hit the bars anymore, as we have hit the age where it's more fun to sit at home with other eldergays and bitch about the world. Woodys used to the be center of my world, though.

by Anonymousreply 225January 30, 2022 9:32 PM

Grindr is dead. Long live Sniffies.

by Anonymousreply 226January 30, 2022 9:33 PM

*Woodys used to be the center of my world, though.

by Anonymousreply 227January 30, 2022 9:34 PM

[quote] 2) it's a fucking app for MEN!!!!

Stop the literal violence against my man-made, dry pussy and silicon titties!!

by Anonymousreply 228January 30, 2022 9:36 PM

@ R216

The dick wants what it wants, or else does not care.

by Anonymousreply 229January 30, 2022 9:43 PM

@ R199

Thank you posting the article by way of supporting your comments. Nevertheless, I have to look at it with skepticism. This have never been my experience all through the 80s, 90s, and 00s while in L.A., Miami, Minneapolis, and NYC. Something about it rings odd to me. Seriously, 11 gay bars with rampant, in-your-face racism? It makes me wonder if the issue wasn't so much about race as it was about class. Philly has some really trashy areas and maybe these people were creating a disturbance. I know that if I went to a high-end gay bar and dressed/acted like I was at backroom sex club they would kick my ass out too. As usual, I am sure there's a lot more to the story that's been left out.

by Anonymousreply 230January 30, 2022 9:50 PM

Me no want big black dick, bro.

White trailer trash all the way!

by Anonymousreply 231January 30, 2022 9:54 PM

The entire Kartrashian/Jenner clan of vapid cunts must all be racist then.....don't they only fuck black men?

by Anonymousreply 232January 30, 2022 9:54 PM

r186 r187

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by Anonymousreply 233January 30, 2022 9:55 PM

r232 no, that would be racial fetishism which is racism and misogyny(oir) under the rules but it's supposed to be a slavery throwback

[quote] This patriarchal narrative of imperialization depicts the New World through rhetoric normally ascribed to women, suggesting the land’s passive and submissive nature, awaiting the conquest of men. This romancization was used to validate the conquest of the land itself, precluding the sexualization of the women made victim by these imperialist mindsets. The feminization and sexualization of the European imperialist narrative encouraged the sexual exploitation of black women and men who were perceived as byproducts of manifest destiny. In modern American, black bodies continue to experience disproportionate rates of sexual exploitation and abuse. I suggest this continued exploitation is rooted in a colonial imperialist framework maintained through historical reproductive control and hyper-sexualization.

by Anonymousreply 234January 30, 2022 9:59 PM

[quote]The entire Kartrashian/Jenner clan of vapid cunts must all be racist then.....don't they only fuck black men?

It’s only racist when whites do it. You’re not getting anywhere with the progressive white gays on this site by saying this.

by Anonymousreply 235January 30, 2022 11:06 PM

Grindr has a huge issue with body shaming. Most people are rude. They have no profile pic and demand to see your pics first to screen you. Inhumane.

by Anonymousreply 236January 31, 2022 12:30 PM

Grindrs “tribes” feature needs to also go away. It’s a sly way of still allowing body shaming or filtering by perceived body types. Trying to pull a fast one and saying you’re kind?

by Anonymousreply 237January 31, 2022 12:34 PM

Again-- people who avoid Black men on the apps are usually doing it out of fear of being robbed or fear of HIV/STI. Not defending it, but that is what is going through people's heads.

Similarly, people who announce "No X" in their preferences might as well also announce "I am borderline insane and a complete bossy bottom with all sorts of triggers which is why no one ever meets my standards."

by Anonymousreply 238January 31, 2022 12:37 PM

I know a lot of people who only date within their race. They aren't racist. But everyone on this thread defending this crap is racist, I hope you read through some of your posts and see how you come across. Because it's not good. it's sad and makes all the liberal/progressive bullshit spouted on this board a bunch of nothing.

by Anonymousreply 239January 31, 2022 12:45 PM

If you can't recognize trolls R239....

by Anonymousreply 240January 31, 2022 12:49 PM

[quote]I know a lot of people who only date within their race. They aren't racist.

Because they aren’t white.

by Anonymousreply 241January 31, 2022 12:53 PM

They're not all trolls R240.

by Anonymousreply 242January 31, 2022 1:03 PM

[quote]it's sad and makes all the liberal/progressive bullshit spouted on this board a bunch of nothing.

Please don’t lump liberals in with progressives. I’m not you. Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 243January 31, 2022 1:05 PM

I can't stand Dan Savage he said in a documentary called Do I Sound Gay? that gay men who are not attracted to effeminate gay men are misogynist.

People should not be berated for their attractions. It's such a personal thing. No one should be hateful towards the people you are not attracted to. If a gay guy only loves straight identified HE men- then let him.

by Anonymousreply 244January 31, 2022 1:28 PM

R155- You sound HATEFUL yourself

GROSS OLD white men

by Anonymousreply 245January 31, 2022 1:30 PM

I've NEVER used Grindr or any other apps. I don't like bringing strangers back to my place or going to someone's place. The only place I get sex from is a bathhouse. I agree that ANY race or ethnicity can be hot. I'm particular about whom I'm attracted to. I'm not attracted to bears or muscular guys. I like slim guys with natural bodies.

by Anonymousreply 246January 31, 2022 2:25 PM

But steer clear of the white man who is “into” your particular race or ethnicity. Sometimes that’s even worse than if he is repulsed by your race.

Better yet, steer clear of ANYONE WHO IS “INTO” YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR RACE, regardless of what it is…they usually have issues in my experience.

It will end in tears 😭

by Anonymousreply 247January 31, 2022 4:20 PM

Which is all progressive white gay men. ^

by Anonymousreply 248January 31, 2022 6:43 PM

As many have said on this thread, it's really an issue of manners.

I dated pretty much exclusively Asian guys and I always said so on my profile. I said things like "I prefer Asian guys", or "I tend to only date or hookup with Asian guys"....rather than say "No BLACKS or WHITES".

I would still get questions about whether I was 'fetishizing' Asian guys, but I never got flack for being racist against whites or blacks.

by Anonymousreply 249January 31, 2022 8:15 PM

R249 And were you. I mean fetishizing or do you just like them?

by Anonymousreply 250January 31, 2022 8:25 PM

[quote]And were you. I mean fetishizing or do you just like them?

Good Lord, how Americans over think things.

by Anonymousreply 251January 31, 2022 11:46 PM

[quote] Good Lord, how Americans over think things.

Funny, I find many of us here underthink things...

by Anonymousreply 252February 1, 2022 12:24 AM

Yes, he fetishizes them.

by Anonymousreply 253February 1, 2022 12:28 AM

I am upset hot guys won’t date me!

by Anonymousreply 254February 1, 2022 1:25 AM

Yes, far better to have someone be up front about it.

by Anonymousreply 255February 1, 2022 1:29 AM

It ain't racism if I don't want to fuck you, Youngblood.

I'm just not that into you.

But if you've got a younger, better looking, less with the arrogance to cover your lack of granting yourself the equity I do (meaning if you don't like me, it's fine with me), I'd be glad to meet him and, if it's a match, fuck him.

After all, he's a Youngblood, too.

by Anonymousreply 256February 1, 2022 2:25 AM

What it comes down to is most people prefer above average looking white men. It’s the Westernized ideal of male beauty. Sorry. We can have a Wesleyan University debate about it or just accept it. The end game is the same. This wouldn’t be an issue if people weren’t upset that they were denied access to this group.

At the end of the day, very few of us are presently Above Average Looking White Men. He all have different ages, races, body types, goonishness, etc. They are not obligated to fuck you. Accepting this will only do you well and allow you to adjust those expectations to pick anyone else within different demographic groups who have a lot of great aspects beyond the appeal of an Above Average Looking White Men.

That’s healthy. Endless bloviating about why the quarterback of the football team doesn’t want to fuck you is not. In fact, it’s very embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 257February 1, 2022 8:01 AM

TL;DR. Quite simply. Gay white males are able to pass as neo-nazis. I would bet good money that a few actually are. A chameleon can take on any disguise.

by Anonymousreply 258February 1, 2022 9:12 AM

R258 According to Whoopy Nazis weren’t racists. They were after white people.

by Anonymousreply 259February 1, 2022 9:17 AM

White, blond Jews…German Jews that look like Armie? Perhaps. Jews just like white gay men can be viewed as the oppressor.

by Anonymousreply 260February 1, 2022 9:55 AM

Grindr sounds toxic

by Anonymousreply 261February 1, 2022 11:12 AM

[quote]Jews just like white gay men can be viewed as the oppressor.

R260 Only by bigoted trash.

by Anonymousreply 262February 1, 2022 11:18 AM

R260 Everyone can be an oppressor. In US black men are oppressors of black women and children and in Africa black oligarchies are oppressing their compatriots. Also, in certain African countries black majority is oppressing the white minority.

by Anonymousreply 263February 1, 2022 12:10 PM

[quote]They are not obligated to fuck you.

Why do morons keep typing this statement? I think every gay person figures this out right after puberty. You can't make somebody fuck you. This is about being a human being and not deliberately cruel. Stop with the racist language and hit ignore. Or better yet, just admit that you're a racist and stop twisting yourselves into pretzels trying to defend downright meanness. And for the record you're not a racist because you don't want to fuck a black guy, you're a racist before you just are. Because if you weren't a racist, you wouldn't get so upset about this.

by Anonymousreply 264February 1, 2022 12:12 PM

Exactly my point - anyone. Look at the title of this thread once again.

by Anonymousreply 265February 1, 2022 12:13 PM

People who won’t do me are literally committing violence against me.

by Anonymousreply 266February 1, 2022 12:35 PM

200+ posts of complete nonsense when the truth boils down to this:

[bold] I find some Black men attractive, but I am afraid of meeting up with one from Grindr because I fear he may rob me, infect me with HIV or another STD, or both.

by Anonymousreply 267February 1, 2022 12:39 PM

R267- Then just go to a bathhouse to meet a black guy. Problem solved.

by Anonymousreply 268February 1, 2022 12:45 PM

I don't see what the big deal is. Back in the 90s (and even later) before the internet completely took over, personal ads said "GWM looking for GWM" or "GBM for GBM". etc. No one batted an eye or complained to the manager.

But nowadays this is a big thing to get offended about?

by Anonymousreply 269February 1, 2022 12:50 PM

That’s not racism. It’s common survival instinct. Example: if you saw an old lady walking towards you in a dark alley, would you feel threatened? Probably not. On the other hand, if you saw a muscular black man approaching, you’d probably feel threatened. This is NOT racism, per se. Rather, it is PREJUDICE. i.e. literally meaning pre-judgement, which is distinctly different from racism.

by Anonymousreply 270February 1, 2022 12:56 PM

If someone specifies their likes or dislikes, what's the big deal? It weeds out the undesirable people they have no interest in, just like if someone who is NOT interested in smokers, no alcoholics, no druggies, no fems, no fatties, no unemployed, no excons, no shorties, no tattoos, no piercings, no 420, no Republicans, no Democrats, etc. If the attraction is not there for any reason, what's the point? People have a right to their own personal preferences. Stop being so sensitive, go fuck your brains out, you'll feel better.

by Anonymousreply 271February 1, 2022 12:57 PM

Hehe, if you saw Billy Porter in the dark alley approaching you would run for the dear life.

by Anonymousreply 272February 1, 2022 12:58 PM

R270- If I saw a big black muscular guy coming towards me I would think BBC!

by Anonymousreply 273February 1, 2022 12:59 PM

[quote]People have a right to their own personal preferences.

Why do you think anyone in this thread has disputed this?

And for the queen on here who thinks all black men are riddled with HIV and want to rob you, seek help, gurl.

by Anonymousreply 274February 1, 2022 1:00 PM

[quote] Gay men are deluded to believe this, when it is trans who get hit up by masculine, straight-ish guys and have more opportunities for sex than the best looking young white tops of gay apps.

Not true. Masculine men are hooking up with other masculine men regardless of sexual orientation. A minority will go after transwomen and fem gays. If you had male friends and if you had gone to places that gather large numbers of males that aren't gyms full of gay men, you'd know this.

by Anonymousreply 275February 1, 2022 1:01 PM

Anyone who is offended by those ads is a fragile flower.

Now can we move on to address the real problem with these hookups. It's not the ads, it's people who show are and are not as they presented themselves to be. Or get cold feet and abort the hookup wasting ppl's time.

by Anonymousreply 276February 1, 2022 1:02 PM

I never meet anyone unless we call and videochat first. Again I don't use Grindr so what do I know?

by Anonymousreply 277February 1, 2022 1:13 PM

That's why a bathhouse is best. No one knows where you live or anything about your private life. If you're not attracted to someone who lingers at your room at the bathhouse you just ignore them or say - no thanks. If your having sex with someone and you've had enough you just say I want to take a break. It's much more awkward if someone is at your place and you don't like the blow job they're giving you and you want them to leave.

by Anonymousreply 278February 1, 2022 1:20 PM

Sadly, it's true R278, as tacky as bathhouses are. And you don't have to worry about having your stuff stolen there either.

by Anonymousreply 279February 1, 2022 1:22 PM

[quote] the queen on here who thinks all black men are riddled with HIV and want to rob you

LOL. Was not saying I believe that.

Saying that is why white DLers don't want to meet Black men from the apps and saying "oh, it's just a sexual preference" makes them feel Not Racist for believing.

by Anonymousreply 280February 1, 2022 3:08 PM

R250 and R253....

Not that it's any of your business, but my Asian husband doesn't feel fetishized, nor do I.

by Anonymousreply 281February 1, 2022 5:01 PM

[quote]the queen on here who thinks all black men are riddled with HIV and want to rob you

From the CDC:

"In 2018, African Americans/Blacks accounted for 42% of the 37,968 new HIV diagnoses in the United States"

"The rate of reported chlamydia cases among Black males was 6.8 times the rate among White males '

"Among males aged 15–19 years, the rate of reported chlamydia cases among Blacks was 9.1 times the rate among Whites"

by Anonymousreply 282February 1, 2022 6:20 PM

I don’t see why people feel the need to put their preference. I respond nicely to every message. When people I’m not interested in start talking about meeting, I nicely make up an excuse.

It’s not serious. Good grief.

by Anonymousreply 283February 1, 2022 6:48 PM

Usually, the people on this soapbox also agree that there’s something wrong with ‘genital preference’, aka they think there’s something wrong with Kinsey 5 & 6 people, and that everyone ought to be nominally bi/‘pan’sexual so that no-one (mostly men) has to suffer the life-ending Egoic agony of rejection. It’s a big red flag.

by Anonymousreply 284February 1, 2022 6:57 PM

If being told you're not entitled to sex makes you seethe r264 you're exactly the man who needs to hear it.

by Anonymousreply 285February 1, 2022 8:23 PM

R269, I think there’s something about the acronyms that made it less offensive. Someone who typed GWM seeks GWM in a 90s newspaper ad could get responses from people who don’t even know the W means “white” - and it didn’t mean enough to them to pay for extra ad space by spelling it out. And maybe the internet makes the world less parochial than it used to be - people realize if they have a similar career, language, or life experience with someone it means more than having skin color in common.

by Anonymousreply 286February 1, 2022 8:44 PM

Honestly, the app is awful and very dated. Even changing ownership three times, it's still glitchy, slow and crashes every so often on top end smartphones at that. Not to mention it's overran with underage teen boys, trannies, homophobic tranny chasers, and straight swinger couples. It's not really for gay men.

It's that difficult to create an app that distinguishes and states those that want a hookup/date/or both, at the same time have some sort of photo/age verification, and have it as a gay/bi men ONLY space that excludes females and trannies? People have atetmpted by the crowd wants to continue their stay on this god awful app. 10+ years and it still essentially functions the same.

by Anonymousreply 287February 1, 2022 11:05 PM

[QUOTE] In 2018, African Americans/Blacks accounted for 42% of the 37,968 new HIV diagnoses in the United States

Mary. Those stats are awful.

by Anonymousreply 288February 1, 2022 11:18 PM

Why are blacks coming down with so many STDs?

by Anonymousreply 289February 1, 2022 11:24 PM

Down low^.

by Anonymousreply 290February 1, 2022 11:39 PM

"I'll tell you what the coloreds want. It's three things: first, a tight pussy; second, loose shoes; and third, a warm place to shit.”

by Anonymousreply 291February 1, 2022 11:45 PM

When I want sex, I don't have to be politically correct. I can pick and choose.

by Anonymousreply 292February 1, 2022 11:48 PM

As a gay man, I have no sexual attraction to women.

CLEARLY I am a sexist and think women do not deserve equal respect as human beings.

by Anonymousreply 293February 1, 2022 11:53 PM

Women are cunts.

by Anonymousreply 294February 1, 2022 11:54 PM

Every time I start to think that we can all learn to get along and respect one another’s differences, I come back to Datalounge and get that dose of reality.

by Anonymousreply 295February 2, 2022 12:33 AM

R275, you are truly a deluded, and perhaps mentally ill, fag. You’ve clearly lived your entire life oblivious to the fact that gay men are a very small minority of men and most men are completely, utterly repulsed at the mere thought of hooking up with another man.

Since you’re so convinced men of all orientations are hooking up with masculine men 😂, create two Grindr profiles. One of a conventionally attractive white man, and the other of a attractive trans woman and see which profile gets more interest from masculine “straight” tops.

I assure you the trans woman profile will be immensely more popular. Feminine trans women are aggressively pursued by the kinds of mostly straight, “real men” that gay men drool over but rarely score unless money or glory holes are involved.

Most men are attracted to women and femininity. The percentage of men exclusively/primarily attracted to masculinity and pursuing sex with masculine men is a TINY minority. These are gay men and bi men who at most are 5% of the male population. Even among bi men, most prefer women and end up with women in long term relationships.

You, R275 are a fucking moron. A deluded and pathetic fucking moron with zero awareness of reality.

by Anonymousreply 296February 2, 2022 4:31 AM

R296 Trans loon, those men want tranny cock and are bottoms , sucks for you trannies since you’re all bottom whores also!

by Anonymousreply 297February 2, 2022 9:32 AM

Sometimes I meet a black man who will never meet another black man. I think that's genuinely sad, but ultimately none of my business.

If all the people with 'preferences' were made to take their preferences off their profile, does that mean they are going to rethink their preferences in any way? Sometimes there is value in letting people label themselves so they can be more efficiently ignored.

I do agree Grindr is terrible for mental health. It seems to be common practice now to block someone immediately they say or do something you don't like. I think this is brutal. If someone sends me photos I don't like, I couldn't block them, I'd feel so bad about it ( I only block people for repetitive harassment). I do think we all have a duty to try and find ways of saying no as gently and kindly as we can, sadly it doesn't seem like anyone else thinks this.

by Anonymousreply 298February 2, 2022 9:33 AM

R293 ludicrous, isn’t it?

Countless times I’ve been called a manhating dyke bitch (once even by my own parents), just because I don’t want to ride a dick and because I vocally support the less-trendy version of feminism.

We have lost all nuance when it comes to dealing with personal desires & boundaries.

by Anonymousreply 299February 2, 2022 9:37 AM

R296 All that name calling should give you a clue as to why you're single.

by Anonymousreply 300February 2, 2022 11:36 AM

[QUOTE] If someone sends me photos I don't like, I couldn't block them, I'd feel so bad about it

Are you nicknamed "doormat"?

by Anonymousreply 301February 2, 2022 12:24 PM

No. It's not like I meet them or anything. I just say I'm not really looking or I can't make it or he's not my type, anything but the block, jeez that's vicious.

by Anonymousreply 302February 2, 2022 12:42 PM

you don't even know them, so why would it be vicious to block them? lol.

by Anonymousreply 303February 2, 2022 12:47 PM

I saw a lot of profiles this morning saying “no men” … on Grindr. Why aren’t people in an uproar about sexism on a gay app?

by Anonymousreply 304February 2, 2022 12:52 PM

Because if a guy sends me pictures and immediately i block him, he's going to think he is hideous. And he might not be hideous, just not really my type.

Anyway, we clearly see things differently. Real problems with how Grindr is set up and constructed though in my view.

by Anonymousreply 305February 2, 2022 12:54 PM

Explain R304 they are looking for trans? Does "men" include trans with penises?

by Anonymousreply 306February 2, 2022 12:54 PM

R289

They are poor, disadvantaged, and have mental trauma from being treated like shit for their race. Same reason black people have higher rates of diabetes and other diseases.

by Anonymousreply 307February 2, 2022 12:59 PM

R305 true Grindr should have adapted the swipe right or first to chat function. The classic chat is outdated and more prone to disparage others.

People would still complain about not getting much matches but at least there will be confirmed mutual attraction.

by Anonymousreply 308February 2, 2022 1:09 PM

R297- That's a good one.

It must be stated regularly on datalounge for the crazy trans people

TRANS LOONS

by Anonymousreply 309February 2, 2022 1:27 PM

R260, please close your mouth when you're eating mice.

by Anonymousreply 310February 2, 2022 1:35 PM

What's interesting is that R296's rant confirms what R287 stated five hours earlier, even though R296 was responding to someone else. Grindr really isn't an app for gay men anymore, as it has been overrun with trans and trans chasers.

Which, in a way, makes this entire 300+ reply discussion somewhat outdated. There are better apps out there, anyway.

by Anonymousreply 311February 2, 2022 2:13 PM

In some instances it is more accurate and truthful not to call decisions racism but prejudice. There's a difference. If preferences really aren't allowed, then this is probably one of them. Prejudice isn't good either but at least it isn't a belief in the inferiority of another race.

by Anonymousreply 312February 2, 2022 2:27 PM

R311 name some better apps . Grindr seems to have the most amount of people. Scruff has half of the volume Grindr has.

by Anonymousreply 313February 2, 2022 2:52 PM

[QUOTE] Grindr really isn't an app for gay men anymore, as it has been overrun with trans and trans chasers.

Is this really true though? I'll admit I haven't looked at Grindr in about a year but when I did it was all men in my area -- gay or bi-married -- looking for men. I didn't see any trans.

by Anonymousreply 314February 2, 2022 3:07 PM

the blacks I know IRL dismiss whites as too feminine.

by Anonymousreply 315February 2, 2022 3:09 PM

[QUOTE] the blacks I know IRL dismiss whites as too feminine.

Who is saying that though? Femme blacks or the straight acting ones?

by Anonymousreply 316February 2, 2022 3:12 PM

the blacks I know IRL told me if they wanted a woman they would date a woman. There is no interest in dating whites.

by Anonymousreply 317February 2, 2022 3:15 PM

OK that's fine but I am still asking -- what type of people are they?

by Anonymousreply 318February 2, 2022 3:17 PM

Good for them^. Why that’s considered okay doesn’t make sense when whites not wanting to date blacks is not.

by Anonymousreply 319February 2, 2022 3:17 PM

I've never heard blacks complain about that. It's always Asians complaining that other groups don't want to date them. It's an Asian thing.

by Anonymousreply 320February 2, 2022 3:22 PM

And extreme left wing white people (often straight) with too much money and time on their hands will complain about this kind of thing. Even though it doesn't even concern them.

by Anonymousreply 321February 2, 2022 3:23 PM

Why are we still having this conversation in 2022? Had it in 2012, 2002, 1992.

FFS I haven't turned on Grindr in 6 mos. Last time I did I realized I wasn't missing much.

Get off your phone and start meeting men in person. Try a bathhouse or something. Last time I went to one all sorts of guys were fucking all sorts of guys and no one seemed to be missing anything. I know, how 1985.

But no one seemed lacking.

by Anonymousreply 322February 2, 2022 3:32 PM

[quote] Grindr seems to have the most amount of people. Scruff has half of the volume Grindr has.

But are the Grindr denizens high quality guys r313? The answer is no. Grindr is overrun by rock stupid twinks, hideous MTF, laughable females who refer to themselves as “faggots”, and the mentally ill.

Scruff app has a much higher percentage of quality men. The Sniffies website is all about sex, and it seems to have replaced both Grindr and Craigslist Personals. Grindr is a dinosaur, and it’s only use is trolling trannies and tranny chasers.

by Anonymousreply 323February 2, 2022 3:36 PM

To the Mary upthread. Masculine men hooking up with each other aren't using hook up ads. When they do, they go on bicupid, scruff and Tinder. Most are hanging in male centric spaces and following each other on Instagram.

Stop hanging out with women. Go listen to music that most men listen to and pay attention to where they hang and then maybe, you'll get a glimpse of masculinity your life surrounded by women as the gay pet never offered you.

by Anonymousreply 324February 2, 2022 3:39 PM

PS: most men are bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 325February 2, 2022 3:40 PM

I've notice one thing about gay dating, many gay men don't handle rejection well. If someone rejects you and you can charge them with some sort of hate all the better. I am fine with rejection, maybe because I have had plenty but why would anyone want to be with someone who didn't want them. If I don't fit the qualifications of what someone is looking for I move on, no point in beating a dead horse. You can't argue or shame someone into wanting you.

by Anonymousreply 326February 2, 2022 3:46 PM

Dating???????

The Grindr I knew was about ordering sex the way you might order Chinese takeout

You'd scroll around until you found someone acceptable looking who was also horny and meet up to fuck. If it turned out you happened to like each other, great, but the vibe was mostly about quick relatively anonymous sex.

by Anonymousreply 327February 2, 2022 4:05 PM

Yeah it's amusing that the misnomer of Grindr being a 'dating app' is still being used in 2022.

If you're looking for a date, go on Tinder. Grindr is for hookups.

I think part of the problem is that people expected things from Grindr that the app never intended to provide. For instance, validation and affirmation. Or finding your future husband.

by Anonymousreply 328February 2, 2022 5:16 PM

r317 Depends on the region. In areas with high black populations, you be likely to see black gays that don't care to mess with white gays. But there are also some that don't mind either. I think places you tend to see black/minority gays chasing whites are areas that don't really have high populations to begin with, and probably where the majority of the complaints will be.

i.e California, Florida, Austin, Boston, etc.

by Anonymousreply 329February 2, 2022 5:26 PM

San Diego.

by Anonymousreply 330February 2, 2022 5:32 PM

So now we even have to have a physical attraction to black people because otherwise it's racist? How far will America and its pathetic and dangerous social "science" that is destroying the whole Western world because it imposes its morals on everyone, go? You know, there are a lot of black men who are not attracted to white men at all. And nobody blames them for that, because it's not something you control. It's amazing how crazy Americans are

by Anonymousreply 331February 2, 2022 5:34 PM

not at all, r331. The blacks I know IRL are size queens and claim whites are hung like a light switch in addition to "having a lot of bitch in them".

by Anonymousreply 332February 2, 2022 5:41 PM

The "Kindr Grindr" campaign had trannies in it complaining that "oh my gawwwd, he asked me about my genitals!!! Can you believve it??? Ewwww?"

It's a fucking SEx APP!!!!! Your genitals are kind of relevant.

Fuck Grindr. Its virtue signalling with "no race filters" but is now overrun with "No men" , "women only", Trans only profiles is the heigh of hypocrisy.

by Anonymousreply 333February 2, 2022 5:52 PM

My favorite use case for Grindr was when I was traveling for work, which I did a lot of in my 20s.

Often as not you could find someone in your hotel who was DTF.

We used to call it Room Service blowjobs - the guy would come to your room, take care of you and then be on his way.

by Anonymousreply 334February 2, 2022 7:33 PM

R315 They are too feminine yet they have been oppressing them for centuries. What does it make these guys, are they children if they are oppressed by women?

I think you are talking bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 335February 2, 2022 8:02 PM

R332 Size queens would do better to find a horse, it would make you satisfied.

by Anonymousreply 336February 2, 2022 8:10 PM

I AM LESS RACIST THAN ALL OF YOU!!

by Anonymousreply 337February 2, 2022 8:46 PM

I don’t understand why idiots can’t get the issue. It goes far beyond attraction when you’re using “preference” to discriminate against, demean, and shun people of color. It extends far past the bedroom when you’re actively being racist in your day to day, and social, life as well, as many of the racists in this thread (and on this forum) are proving.

by Anonymousreply 338February 2, 2022 9:26 PM

So explain the issue from your point of view as it relates to Grindr, R338.

by Anonymousreply 339February 2, 2022 9:30 PM

R317 I got the impression it is quite the opposite, at least from social media, that the Blacks are afraid of white masculine dudes, and as if, when it comes to white guys they are pursuing young boys and more fragile or effeminate guys. Probably deriving from complexes of inferiority created in centuries of white dominance and racism. There was a thread how Black twitter is appalled by the notion of white top and black bottom. So looks like these guys have to prove they are more masculine than whites and can not be viewed as possibly submissive.

I have noticed one interesting phenomena regarding Cmbyn Black celebrities on social media were gushing over Timothee and none over Armie. Like big Armie with cannibal teeth could endanger their image of "dominant real men", while skinny little boy makes them feel good about themselves.

I am not from US, but these are my perceptions.

by Anonymousreply 340February 2, 2022 9:46 PM

that is no more racism than Biden picking Kamala Harris. I can guarantee you gays wouldn't say that was a race based racist choice.

by Anonymousreply 341February 2, 2022 9:54 PM

[group] Feminine trans women are aggressively pursued by the kinds of mostly straight, “real men”

I truly don't understand how a man who is willing to hook up with a "woman" with a penis can be considered straight.

by Anonymousreply 342February 2, 2022 11:42 PM

[QUOTE] To the Mary upthread. Masculine men hooking up with each other aren't using hook up ads. When they do, they go on bicupid, scruff and Tinder. Most are hanging in male centric spaces and following each other on Instagram.

Closeted bi-marrieds are on instagram?

by Anonymousreply 343February 2, 2022 11:42 PM

R342 I typed "group" instead of "quote"

My early onset dementia must be kicking up

by Anonymousreply 344February 2, 2022 11:43 PM

Why are white gays so racist?

by Anonymousreply 345February 3, 2022 2:14 AM

It isn’t for you to understand, R342.

Gay men tend to view other men’s sexual preferences through the lens of their own. Perhaps this is why so manyof you seem to be in denial of reality.

The kinds of men who go for trans women may not be completely straight but they certainly aren’t gay. The vast majority are not interested in or attracted to cisgender or traditional appearing men.

They are on the straight spectrum, attracted to femininity broadly, and are less concerned with genitalia. From my own research, the population density of these mostly straight, trans-attracted men exceeds the number of gay men.

Call me a trans loon, or whatever other epithet you want, but at the end of the day attractive trans women are swimming in cock and have their pick. While gay queens fight over the 5 barely fuckable tops on any app or at a bar, reasonably passable trans women have TONS of options, and the guys who are into trans are often much hotter than gay men.

Those of you who continue to deny this are wrong, know you’re wrong, and are bitter.

by Anonymousreply 346February 3, 2022 2:31 AM

^^^ Did you watch the documentary called THAI BOYS on Netflix or was it HBO. I can’t remember, but these transsexuals really look like hot Asian females. They must be swimming in dick since straight (mostly), rich Daddys are flocking to Thailand. Fucking pedos too.

by Anonymousreply 347February 3, 2022 3:14 AM

There are more pedos in Hollywood than most of us even know of.

by Anonymousreply 348February 3, 2022 3:19 AM

R 346, keep telling yourself (and everyone else) that. Maybe one day *you'll* even believe it.

by Anonymousreply 349February 3, 2022 3:30 AM

I am a POC and I am not good-looking and I get rejected by everyone, white, black, Latino, Asian. So I think it is okay to have preferences. But what everyone is missing here is that preferences end up being exclusive friends or hangout places. That marginalizes people who are not white and limits interaction when gay people need it the most as we are most likely to end up being alone.

by Anonymousreply 350February 3, 2022 3:42 AM

R347-Like this?

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by Anonymousreply 351February 3, 2022 3:57 AM

R350- I assume you're getting rejected by all types of races/ethnicities on Grindr- maybe you should try some other venue-NOT the internet. Join an outdoors group or a group that has similar interests to yours and you can make friends and maybe even someone for dating who won't reject you for your STATS.

by Anonymousreply 352February 3, 2022 4:02 AM

I don't know that I'm wrong and I'm not bitter at all, R346. You sound like the bitter one.

I didn't suggest transphiles are gay; they're just not straight---straight men usually like real pussy, although many do like to stick the d in a REAL female asshole.

"Straight spectrum", my ass.

I guess everyone is entitled to their freak, though.

by Anonymousreply 353February 3, 2022 4:08 AM

R350 makes a good point, certainly the gay community seems a lot less sociable and friendly today compared to what it was like in the 1980s, according to what my friends who were adults at the time tell me - I guess the experience of everything still being a bit underground, and of having to come together because of HIV, at the least created a community which is just a hookup market now.

by Anonymousreply 354February 3, 2022 9:30 AM

Being racist on a dating app is not "just a preference," it is UNNECESSARILY RUDE AND OFFENSIVE! And Karma is a bitch!

First, Most people date and marry within their own race. So chances are, most people of other races don't want you anyway. If someone contacts you that you don't want, just say "No thank you." No further explanation is needed. Why does race matter? You don't need to say stupid and offensive shit.

Second, If I see any kind of race restriction in a profile, I immediately block them because I know that if I hook up with them there will be all kinds of problematic statements, opinions and behavior that at best will make me uncomfortable and at worst piss me off. I won't deal with people like that.

No thank you. Next...

by Anonymousreply 355February 3, 2022 10:44 AM

R350 Would you want a white man to force himself to get hard for you just because you want a white cock? Seriously, do any of you all Americans realize what you are saying? Don't you think you're overreacting by calling the issues of physical attractions discrimination? You are going way too far. Putting such pressure and blackmailing people all the time will not only lead to rejection, but it will end badly. You can't talk about discrimination regarding people's preferences. Nobody can do anything about it.

by Anonymousreply 356February 3, 2022 10:52 AM

[quote] My early onset dementia must be kicking up

Welcome to the party, R344. I wouldn't be concerned until you find your slippers in the refrigerator.

by Anonymousreply 357February 3, 2022 11:31 AM

[quote] certainly the gay community seems a lot less sociable and friendly today compared to what it was like in the 1980s, according to what my friends who were adults at the time tell me

Honey, your friends who were adults in the 1980s are all in their 60s and 70s now. Older people in general are less sociable and more prone to staying home and watching TV.

by Anonymousreply 358February 3, 2022 11:36 AM

Grindr has tribes. They aren’t racial filters but they encourage body shaming and prejudice. The Grindr tribes thing has to go too. It forces labels.

by Anonymousreply 359February 3, 2022 12:36 PM

Tribes? Is that like Bears, Otters and that stuff?

by Anonymousreply 360February 3, 2022 12:37 PM

R360 yes.

by Anonymousreply 361February 3, 2022 12:38 PM

The bear movement was the ruination of the gay scene. That's when people began classifying and subdividing themselves. And it's only gotten worse.

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by Anonymousreply 362February 3, 2022 12:40 PM

I'm going to assume that this is an age thing. You old gays are still putting racial preferences on hook up apps and everyone under 40 knows that is unkind. Maybe it's because of the arthritis in your fingers that you can't swipe past someone you don't want or can hit block on someone. I don't know. The funny thing is you old gays get so desperate and are so afraid of being alone that at some point you all start picking whomever. If I had a dollar for every 70 year old white gay man with a younger black or Asian guy, I would be even wealthier than I already am.

by Anonymousreply 363February 3, 2022 12:52 PM

Some major hostility towards older, white gay men^.

by Anonymousreply 364February 3, 2022 12:58 PM

R364 Silly when the poster started with preaching about being unkind and ended insulting people who happen to be of pale color and born earlier than him, even mentioning normal degenerative processes in joints as something to be ashamed of. The infinite of human stupidity!

by Anonymousreply 365February 3, 2022 1:06 PM

Scruff sucks. I get that Grindr may have less quality but they sure have more people, even some of great quality. Scruff has half the people Grindr has and they are all 50+ and ugly. I don't know how anyone hooks up on that app.

by Anonymousreply 366February 3, 2022 1:17 PM

R358- They're more prone to staying home and watching old episodes of the Golden Girls.

by Anonymousreply 367February 3, 2022 1:23 PM

R365 types old.

by Anonymousreply 368February 3, 2022 1:24 PM

R363

I don’t think it’s mostly old white gays doing it. I think it’s mostly the cliquey, vapid, shallow gays who act like they’re still in high school.

I agree that old and FAT white gays know they have much better chances with younger and better in shape black and Asian guys. The young fit white gays are cruel to them.

by Anonymousreply 369February 3, 2022 1:26 PM

R368 By DL standards maybe, but not by outside world standards. I am 33. But I am woke and against ageism.

by Anonymousreply 370February 3, 2022 1:31 PM

I scanned this thread and note that there are a lot of REALLY STUPID GAY WHITE MEN. This is not even about your racism. Seriously, you can't even fucking read. Nobody is trying to take your "preference" away. Fuck whoever you want, but have the common decency not to insult everyone else in the process. Trust and believe, the minorities you are rejecting don't want to be bothered with you. A lot of White guys don't want your racist ass either - for the same reason. Seriously. Whiney, Bitchy grown ass men who are THIS FUCKING STUPID is a turn off!

KUDOS to: R17, R20, R29, R31, R33, R34, R38, R43, R49, R69, R87, R94, R98, R111, R120, R137, R150, R152, R155, R161, R178, R199, R207, R208, R210, R239 R264, R265, R274, R283, R338 R350

You get it! I want you to know in this sea of foolishness, you are heard. There may be others I missed, because I was reading fast so kudos to you too if you agree with what these people said. Each of those I shouted out above seem to understand that excluding any entire RACE of people in a dating app or in correspondence with another user is rude as hell. It is some of the most inhumane and unnecessarily cruel shit I have ever seen. You don't have to do this. Why show the world you are not only a total asshole but a dumbbell as well? I guess the continuation of this attitude is more collateral damage from the Trump era.

It's not about being "nice" or politically correct or woke. It is about being a decent human being and not being unnecessarily cruel to fellow human beings. If you cannot see that then you truly are an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 371February 3, 2022 1:32 PM

R369- These people can no longer get the young good looking white guys ( maybe they NEVER could) so they settle for blacks and or Asian guys.

I've found though that a lot of Asian guys have an attitude ( at least the attractive ones do) and they only want the young good looking white SAVIOR of their dreams- which they rarely get.

by Anonymousreply 372February 3, 2022 1:32 PM

This week, I was just starting to chat with a guy with no picture on his profile and asked "what's your background?" as an ice-breaker and he immediately froze up, refused to answer and lectured me that Ì have no right to ask that question because asking it meant I was either racist or fetishizing certain ethnicities.

...which is moronic. Especially since I then checked his profile and saw he listed himself as white. What a tool. I hate when people get up on a soapbox just to seem enlightened. Unless there are guys who refuse to bang white guys and I've just never heard of them...

I pointed out that it was only meant as a getting to know you question and asked if it would also be wrong for me to ask his height or hair color...to which he said yes because- get this - "discrimination" !!!

WOW. People are dumb. Apparently looks are now 100% irrelevant and how DARE you ask about appearance in any way.

by Anonymousreply 373February 3, 2022 1:35 PM

I'm Asian, and I only date Asians. Plenty among us among those under 25. And I guess that means we're all racist. Oh well.

by Anonymousreply 374February 3, 2022 1:37 PM

R374

There aren’t enough Asians for that to be a reality. And the gay world is small as is. I guess it depends on city, but even then you’ll likely run out of different Asian men to “date”.

by Anonymousreply 375February 3, 2022 1:44 PM

r370 Chris Hanson has been alerted

by Anonymousreply 376February 3, 2022 1:51 PM

Are people on this thread really defending the “no rice, no spice, no chocolate, no curry” shit? That’s really as racist as you can get. Why can’t you follow out your “preferences” like a normal person?

by Anonymousreply 377February 3, 2022 1:59 PM

I'm HOT IN THE PANTS for Arab guys but my brother once told me- They'll cut your throat.

I'm not traveling to Baghdad to meet an Arab dude. That would be dangerous. I can daydream though.

by Anonymousreply 378February 3, 2022 2:04 PM

[quote]There aren’t enough Asians for that to be a reality. And the gay world is small as is. I guess it depends on city, but even then you’ll likely run out of different Asian men to “date”.

Such a racist, ignorant comment. Typical of a white gay progressive.

by Anonymousreply 379February 3, 2022 2:08 PM

[quote]I'm HOT IN THE PANTS for Arab guys but my brother once told me- They'll cut your throat. I'm not traveling to Baghdad to meet an Arab dude. That would be dangerous. I can daydream though.

Gay men love Arabs. Muslims, Arab Catholics—gay men love them.

by Anonymousreply 380February 3, 2022 2:09 PM

[quote] I wouldn't be concerned until you find your slippers in the refrigerator.

Fortunately, I like to walk around the house barefoot.

by Anonymousreply 381February 3, 2022 6:24 PM

I really don’t care if white men don’t find me or black men attractive. White men typically want to have sex and/or be around other white men. Which is natural. Most people want to date or marry people that are similar to them. So I’m not going to shame them into finding me attractive. This whole discussion bother my soul for a variety of reasons. One, the topic is cringe worthy. Two, begging a group of men to find you attractive screams low self-esteem. On top of screaming low self esteem and being cringe, I find putting white men on pedestals as a non-white person shows a lack of racial pride. I also don’t like this discussion because it low key puffs up white men’s ego.

by Anonymousreply 382February 3, 2022 8:03 PM

If grindr brought back the race filter (it still has age, etc.) then people wouldn't have to put their "preferences" in their profiles (which is still rude, but you can't legislate manners)

by Anonymousreply 383February 3, 2022 8:49 PM

[quote]Are people on this thread really defending the “no rice, no spice, no chocolate, no curry” shit?

Is that something people are still putting in their profiles in 2022? Seems more of a 2012 thing, and something Douchebags of Grindr stamped out. There wasn't a quicker way to get yourself featured on that blog.

by Anonymousreply 384February 3, 2022 8:54 PM

383 What are you talking about? They were still posting that stuff in their profile when the race filter still existed. They were more offended that minority guys were hitting them up. Even then, there's a respectful way to post that you're more attracted to a certain type of person rather than be nasty

by Anonymousreply 385February 3, 2022 9:49 PM

You can’t control people. If people are going to be nasty, then they are. I suspect they knew they were going to get a nasty reaction anyway.

by Anonymousreply 386February 3, 2022 9:54 PM

"I find putting white men on pedestals as a non-white person shows a lack of racial pride."

If I , as a white guy, said that putting non-white guys on a pedestal shows a "lack of racial pride" on the part of white people, I'd hear howling for days.

by Anonymousreply 387February 3, 2022 10:26 PM

[quote]There aren’t enough Asians for that to be a reality.

What planet do you live on?

by Anonymousreply 388February 4, 2022 12:06 AM

#AllWhoresMatter

by Anonymousreply 389February 4, 2022 12:08 AM

Seems like OP is attempting to create Equal Opportunity Sexuality! Coerce men into having sex with all races. If a white man feel sexually attracted to a black man, he needs to be re-programmed!

Such bullshit.

Sexual attraction originates elsewhere than in racial prejudice. What makes my dick hard is what I want to have sex with. If anyone thinks they can change that, then they may also want to eliminate gayness altogether.

A black man once got angry that I didn’t want to have sex with him, said I was prejudiced. So I said to him, “I’m not the one who makes those decisions.” And added, pointing to my cock, “He is.”

by Anonymousreply 390February 4, 2022 12:19 AM

Someone on Grindr with no profile pics or stats messaged me and sent me dick pics. I asked what his ethnicity was. It was a mixture including one that I am very not attracted to physically or sexually. I politely did not respond as everyone on this thread suggested, and within 2 minutes I got accused of "RACISM!"

You can't win.

by Anonymousreply 391February 4, 2022 1:12 AM

My dick prefers white meat .

by Anonymousreply 392February 4, 2022 1:17 AM

R392- I'm not into meat. I'm Vegan.

by Anonymousreply 393February 4, 2022 1:41 AM

R393, vegan dick is impotent usually. You pasty, malnourished fuck

by Anonymousreply 394February 4, 2022 1:45 AM

R382 You spot on!I don't get the victimization here especially since the majority of black men are attract to black men. Between white gays there are also thousands of physical requirements. Some don't want to hear about redhair, some don't want to fuck with you if you're under 6 feet tall, some want a certain size of cock, etc. This is not racism. And you're right that crying like that is not rewarding for a black man. Dignity is important.

by Anonymousreply 395February 4, 2022 4:35 AM

R390- Where was this, a bathhouse?

by Anonymousreply 396February 4, 2022 5:18 AM

It's not about exalting White men. It is not even about minorities wanting White men. It's really not.

It is about not subjecting minorities to racist bullshit in 2022.

Since when is being on an app a license to be an asshole? ' You know good and well that if you were at a bar and someone approached you that you would not say "Before you even open your mouth, I don't even want to give you the dignity of speaking to me. You see, I am a racist piece of shit. I don't see Asians or Blacks or Latinos as human beings. If you are not White don't even speak to me."

You wouldn't say that because you know you'd most likely be picking your teeth up off the floor.

If you would not disrespect them in person, don't disrespect them on an app.

by Anonymousreply 397February 4, 2022 11:21 AM

[Quote]These people can no longer get the young good looking white guys ( maybe they NEVER could) so they settle for blacks and or Asian guys.

R363 R369 R372 What are you talking about? I have not seen this "settling" for Black guys you speak of. I have lots of Black friends and I have never seen a young good looking Black man with some fat nasty old White troll. Now Asians will go for nasty old White men. But Black guys seem to have better taste. When I've seen a good looking Black guy with a White guy, the White guy is gonna be at least decent looking.

Latinos tend to be all over the map. They date everything. There are also White Latinos so those trends are harder to pin down.

The point is. Good looking Black guys obviously get approached by all kinds of White men. They find a way of telling the trolls "NO" without being rude. Why is it so many gay White guys have nasty and classless? And what's funny is that it is usually the average to below average looking White guys who are the most rude.

Am I right? Where are the Black men?

by Anonymousreply 398February 4, 2022 11:37 AM

OOPS! ^^^^^^ I meant to say: "Why is it so many White guys are nasty and classless?"

by Anonymousreply 399February 4, 2022 11:40 AM

You Americans are plain crazy with this Neo-Stalinism.

People have been fighting for decades and in some parts of the world we are still fighting to keep the right wing politicians and the Church out of our bedrooms and pants. So are your compatriots in Texas.

And now the "liberal" idiots are peeping in your bedrooms again, checking if you have enough diversity in bedroom.

Reminds me of Ceausescu's Romania, when state was submitting women to regular gynecologist exams to check if they had an illegal abortion.

Keep the politics out the bedroom.

by Anonymousreply 400February 4, 2022 2:34 PM

R400 You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Get an accurate English translation. This has nothing to do with politics or trying to force any person to date any other person. This is a conversation about racist comments in profiles on a dating app in 2022.

See what you ignorant racist trolls are doing - you are confusing the poor foreigners who are trying to keep up! LOL

by Anonymousreply 401February 4, 2022 2:52 PM

It’s just the snowqueens that complain about this. They all have serious mental illness and self loathing issues..:

by Anonymousreply 402February 4, 2022 2:55 PM

R402 WRONG! It's just racist and morally bankrupt people who write shit like that in a profile. Then these same people make every excuse in the book for their absence of human decency they direct at people they think less than. It is some really fucked up shit. And you people who do this would not be giving this article so much push back if you didn't KNOW what you are doing is indeed wrong.

Are the hit dogs hollering! LOL

by Anonymousreply 403February 4, 2022 3:01 PM

R401 You are such a phony asshole. Talking about racism and then instantly revealing your xenopohobic rage by mentioning my inadequate English.

by Anonymousreply 404February 4, 2022 3:15 PM

R404 Your failure to comprehend what is going on here before sticking your nose in American business and your foot in your mouth doesn't make me xenophobic but it does make you stupid. Now educate yourself before siding with a bunch of racist hypocrites! It's not a good look honey.

by Anonymousreply 405February 4, 2022 3:22 PM

R405 You are the one that, in your Stalinist fervor, lacks the comprehension of what has been written. Who the hell are you, a morality policeman, to control the American's profiles on hookup app. Were these guys promoting hate crime on their profiles, were they using racist slurs? If they did you should report them to the moderator. If not, why the hell do you care if they search for Swede or a Masai or Pygmy or whoever they want. The fact that some people are assholes and would be deliberately rude and unkind when ruling out people with certain characteristics (just as you wanted to exclude me from this discussion for not being American and not knowing English perfectly) is not so rare or unusual.

And you diminish the fight against real racism, which is a much bigger issue, with this trivialization.

by Anonymousreply 406February 4, 2022 3:50 PM

This thread is sad.

by Anonymousreply 407February 4, 2022 5:07 PM

R406 I never tried to exclude you from the conversation. Lemme be clear, this is an open forum, I don't give a shit what you say. Honey you don't mean that much to me. I only told you to educate yourself so you could stop making a fool of yourself. As a foreigner and assuming this was a political issue, indicates that you clearly don't understand race relations in the United States.

When you are in the majority in America with a long history of being oppressive behavior towards everyone else then yes there is a higher obligation to be humane. It's funny that White people are so quick to say oh a Black person was mean to me once or some Black guy wrote "no whites" in his profile. Oh boo hoo!" Those incidents are few and far between and none of that justifies you being an asshole to an entire race of people. I realize that this is about White people and "everybody else" but I am going to discuss it as a Black and White issue at the moment because that seems to be easier for most people to understand.

[TO BE CONTINUED]

by Anonymousreply 408February 4, 2022 5:10 PM

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R406 So many White people are quick to claim that they are not racist because they didn't have slaves or use the N word. But the question that needs to be asked is "what are you doing today?" Why are you perpetuating the bullshit. Every little micro-aggression you put forward adds up. Being racist in an app is a part of that perpetuation of racism and discrimination. So at the end of the day a lot of White people are no better than their ancestors. Why don't you ask a Black person if they like carrying around the continued discrimination of their ancestors. The history is what it is. Nobody alive chose the past but everybody can impact the future by being a decent human being moving forward. Do White people really want the other races to get along? Reading through this thread, it is obvious that putting racist shit in a profile is highly offensive to people of color (Asian, Black, Latino, Native American and others) in the United States. If this many people are complaining about the discriminatory comments in the profiles, why not just stop doing it? What do you gain by continuing to be an asshole --- just for the sake of being an asshole?

You don't have to fuck anybody you don't want to fuck. Nobody is saying that. Hell you don't even have to talk to them if you don't want to. Ignore and block are very easy to implement. Nobody is begging to be with a racist. And lemme just say, a lot of White people don't want to be with a racist White person either. Nobody wants to carry around a bunch of unnecessary bullshit because you have a weak and insecure partner who is a bigot. It effects everything you can do with that person including who you can comfortably be around without your partner saying some fucked up shit to embarrass you.

You seem to WRONGLY assume that every person of color wants to sleep with a White person. Nothing could be further from the truth. People genuinely stick to their own kind. So it is not about wanting White people. And just like POC sleep with their own kind, I am sure they understand that most White people want to sleep with their own kind. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT! SLEEP WITH WHOEVER YOU WANT! How many times can I say that to where the ignorant Racist (3rd grade education) White people on this thread can comprehend it?

It is about POC wanting to be treated with the same dignity and respect as any other person. I don't see why that is so hard to understand. This is not a new issue. POC have expressed the same complaints. It has come up in the past and been discussed at length, yet the bigots continue to perpetuate this and none of their excuses hold any water.

What's trivial is that Racist White people continue to try to oppress, belittle and demean everyone else with a continuous stream of micro-aggressions and then pretend to not understand that they are doing these things when they get called out.

I don't know why any minorities would even want to date a White person living in the United States when so many are so thoroughly fucked up! It is embarrassing. White people in other countries tend to be less obsessed with this type of shit.

by Anonymousreply 409February 4, 2022 5:11 PM

It’s obvious that we’re not going to get that kumbay-a moment where we finally agree on the matter.

Thread Closed.

by Anonymousreply 410February 4, 2022 5:11 PM

R407- The fact that I can't get LAID is sad.

by Anonymousreply 411February 4, 2022 5:28 PM

Some one —not me says—

"Grindr has DECREASED the amount of actual sex going on.

Back in the cruising days, nobody wanted to go home until they got off, because they went to all the trouble to get there in the first place. You might have to wait a while for someone to your liking, but eventually, you’d get off. Also, you could see what people really look like, and a lot of men are better-looking than their pics or serviceable if they’re RIGHT THERE opening holes for you. Also, everybody used these places, from the super gorgeous to the ugly trolls. This meant that you would occasionally have to throw a pity fuck to someone who isn’t your ideal. But it also meant you would occassionally score a SUPER hot dude who was WAY out of your league! Nobody wanted to go home empty-handed. So to speak.

Social networking online is all about EXCLUSION — filtering out people who aren’t exactly like you or what you want. So you miss out on all the serviceable average guys who maybe bring things to the table you can’t see in profile pics or resumes.

Plus, Grindr is too easy. Most guys just browse lazily when they won’t — or CAN’T even leave work to hook up. They stay online for hours waiting for Channing Tatum to come along and he never does, so they just go to bed / give up.

There’s less sex now and less exposure to everything that’s out there

by Anonymousreply 412February 5, 2022 8:39 AM

R409 I see that you mean well, and I understand your point of view, but you exaggerate in your belief that Black man would be so sensitive over Grindr profiles. I got the impression that it was mainly white liberals making fuss over it.

by Anonymousreply 413February 5, 2022 10:47 AM

I don't put much text on my profile because very few gays read it anyway. But I don't see why anyone would want to rule out all guys of a particular race. At least look at a guy before you decide whether you're attracted to him or not.

When guys I'm not attracted to send me a message I generally just block them. Partly because it saves both of our time and it avoids them sending repeated messages like "hello???", "u there", "fine be an asshole then", etc etc.

by Anonymousreply 414February 5, 2022 11:31 AM

[Quote] I understand your point of view, but you exaggerate in your belief that Black man would be so sensitive over Grindr profiles.

R413 My intent is not to impute any more or any less sensitivity on how anyone feels about this (White, Black, Asian or otherwise). We are all typing on an anonymous chat board, so none of us knows who is what. Some up the thread have identified themselves as Asian or Black, but that really shouldn't matter anyway. All I know and can speak to is how I feel about this subject, which is not a new subject. We all know that people of color have complained about this on other websites in the past.

The bottom line is that my intent was to highlight the cruelty of it all. Anybody can (and should be able to) see that this is cruel and there's just no good reason to type in race excluding language. And even if you feel you have a reason to do it, that reason doesn't outweigh the damage you are doing.

What I am hearing in your response is "fuck them" (the men of color who are offended by this and not speaking up or the White liberals who are speaking up) and not in the good way. You're being extremely INsensitive in your dismissiveness.

Honestly, I don't think any men of color are up at night losing any sleep over ignorant racist White men. I'm sure they see it in many contexts every day, but that doesn't make this ok. There is this mantra out there about "the strong Black woman" or "the strong Black man." "They can take it." There is some truth to it given all they have been through, but why should they have to keep "taking it." Why can't White people be just a little less racist in their dealings with people who are not like them. And since when do people have to complain to keep from being treated like shit? We are all taught at least by kindergarten that the golden rule is: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. So there is no excuse for this shit. Imagine being in the minority and being constantly discriminated against only to open up an app to see people blatantly saying you are shit because of the color of you skin. It is like denying someone's humanity. That is unacceptable. Everybody knows better! This is not something that should need explaining.

All of us should do better dealing with each other if we want a better world. And WHY NOT start with the gay community? Again this DOES NOT MEAN FUCKING PEOPLE YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK. You don't even have to talk to them. If your jam is to be rude, you can still be rude, but you don't have to be racist. Given the history of White people and others (specifically African Americans) in this country, people should understand that to put race excluding words in a profile in 2022 goes way beyond rude. It is demoralizing and unnecessarily cruel.

I think we can all agree that racism is a really awful thing. This IS a form of racism. Just don't fucking do it!

by Anonymousreply 415February 5, 2022 12:35 PM

r415 It's cruel to give somebody hope that doesn't have a chance and then have to reject them or worse yet block them because you're just looking to bust a nut.

They're hook-up sites. It's not about finding your one true love and playing off like some disney fairy tale.

it is better to lay it all out.

full body stats and cock details, health status and present hole

What you're into in graphic detail

The type of guys you're into - even if that's only. Sure, it might limit your opportunities to bust a nut but even hookups tend to get offended when you ask them to cover their bodies in beige.

Your limits - this should be related to matters of safety, risks and peeves

Your certification/awards/misc: Are you trained in cpr? Has the health dept in your city crowned you the biggest whore? Do you require a nda? Are you under house arrest? etc

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by Anonymousreply 416February 5, 2022 1:02 PM

No one should be berated for their attractions. One cannot help being a attracted to a certain type. I remember seeing at that site (realjock.com)- I NEVER really liked that site. Datalounge is SO much better

Anyway I remember this dark skinned black kid ( about 19 years old) had zillions of pages of the other guys at the site he found hot. ALL of them were WHITE , MUSCULAR, MASCULINE looking. He might be limiting himself if he's only interested in that type of guy but he should be allowed to fantasize and be attracted to whomever he wants. Attraction is such a personal thing.

by Anonymousreply 417February 5, 2022 1:12 PM

R416 Nobody wants your "HOPE."

What part of "YOU DON'T HAVE TO FUCK ANYBODY YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK" are you people not understanding?

Honey this is not about wanting to date you or even have sex with you. It is about how you are treating other human beings.

Nothing you said has anything to do with this conversation.

by Anonymousreply 418February 5, 2022 1:22 PM

R363 forgot to take her medication...

by Anonymousreply 419February 5, 2022 1:22 PM

R417 Like who you want! Be attracted to who you want! Fuck who you want! Reread what I wrote. This has nothing to do with any of that.

by Anonymousreply 420February 5, 2022 1:24 PM

So if I would have sex with 5% of the white men I meet but only 4% of the black guys, does that make me racist?

by Anonymousreply 421February 5, 2022 1:34 PM

R421 You are missing the point. Talk to whoever you want. Meet whoever you want. Have sex with whoever you want. That has nothing to do with putting racist language in your profile.

I keep looking around for a candid camera or a for Ashton Kutcher to logon and say I am being punk'd. Do you really not understand the point I am making?

by Anonymousreply 422February 5, 2022 1:41 PM

[quote]WRONG! It's just racist and morally bankrupt people who write shit like that in a profile. Then these same people make every excuse in the book for their absence of human decency they direct at people they think less than. It is some really fucked up shit. And you people who do this would not be giving this article so much push back if you didn't KNOW what you are doing is indeed wrong.

Funny, if white guys see "no whites" on an app, they don't give a shit. Who cares?

It's sad that you revere the opinion of whites so much that you get offended. They're just not into you. Get over t.

by Anonymousreply 423February 5, 2022 2:19 PM

R423 Funny you assume I am not White as you attempt to belittle me! LOL I will never tell you either way because it doesn't matter for purposes of this dialogue. But one thing you continue to reveal to the world is that you are indeed a racist piece of shit! 😂😂😂😂😂

But Karma will get your ass, she always does! Keep being an asshole! 😜🍿🍿🍿

by Anonymousreply 424February 5, 2022 2:29 PM

Many of my black friends who have white partners have picked the bottom of the barrel looks wise. Maybe they are looking for something other than looks.

by Anonymousreply 425February 5, 2022 2:31 PM

Maybe they are not really your friends.... Friends don't let friends pick trolls.

by Anonymousreply 426February 5, 2022 2:33 PM

R425- Maybe their white partners are bottom of the barrels looks wise because that is all they are ABLE to get.

by Anonymousreply 427February 5, 2022 3:35 PM

Maybe R425, his friends and their lovers are ALL bottom of the barrel (birds of a feather), which is a big fat SO WHAT? in terms of this conversation.

by Anonymousreply 428February 5, 2022 3:39 PM

Bottom.of.the.barrel.

by Anonymousreply 429February 5, 2022 4:48 PM

So which is worse?

A guy who explicitly tastes his racial preferences or one who keeps them to himself?

by Anonymousreply 430February 5, 2022 5:05 PM

*states not tastes

by Anonymousreply 431February 5, 2022 5:06 PM

R431 Tasting your preferences is not bad, either.

by Anonymousreply 432February 5, 2022 5:08 PM

@423 makes a good point. If a profile says “only whites or Asians”, so what? Are we applying for jobs? It’s a sex app. You need to be aroused or your dick will not work.

Then again, with the history of this country, anything that says “only whites” or “no blacks” will trigger a response. Even if it is a stupid gay sex app. Sighhhh.

by Anonymousreply 433February 5, 2022 5:19 PM

What is the best way to state one’s preferences without being rude or racist?

by Anonymousreply 434February 5, 2022 6:22 PM

If my dick does not get hard for blonds, and I'm a white guy, does that mean I'm a racist? Dark hair and red hair are what turn me on. Blonds look mostly alike to me, and not in an erection-producing way.

by Anonymousreply 435February 5, 2022 6:37 PM

@R424 is clearly not white. And arguably not sane.

by Anonymousreply 436February 5, 2022 6:40 PM

R435 - I love ginger men more than any other kind, and I put "Gingers almost always hit my buttons" on my Scruff profile.

Just before Xmas I got messaged by an Asian guy who told me I was racist for having that on my profile.

by Anonymousreply 437February 5, 2022 7:34 PM

r418 For this sort of thing, most lads are just cum dumpsters looking to get off and go. Your whole bloody rant is the one that's biased.. because what you're triggered by words? If that's the case, might I recommend you explore echo chambers where nobody dares say anything that might offended your delicate sensibilities.

And seriously, you might think about avoiding trolling for cock or hole... I don't think they're cut out for it, little one. Leave it to the grown ups, alright.

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by Anonymousreply 438February 5, 2022 8:14 PM

As if by magic, I was reading this thread and then about 30 minutes later I see the following on a Grindr profile: "Where are all the white muscle guys at?"

by Anonymousreply 439February 5, 2022 9:07 PM

R437, I also got shit a year or two ago for specifying a liking for ginger guys in my Scruff profile, but it was from a white guy.

I just chalked it up as coming from those people who think that gingers have no souls, and thus cannot process the idea of anyone else possibly liking them.

by Anonymousreply 440February 5, 2022 9:14 PM

Red-haired men resemble neither fresh ginger nor the stuff from the spice aisle.

by Anonymousreply 441February 5, 2022 9:16 PM

[quote]"Where are all the white muscle guys at?"

Something wrong with that?

by Anonymousreply 442February 5, 2022 9:20 PM

R424 We all can tell you are a fat snow queen bottom loon. Sane people of color will look at a white man stating his preference for other white men (on their profile) and not even bat an eyelash. An insane self loathing snow queen like you meanwhile , sees that man as an asshole nazi that is hurting your feelings and demeaning your existence by not giving you a chance. You need therapy!!

by Anonymousreply 443February 6, 2022 1:51 AM

Response to r409 many black gay date white men, but immediately go to only black men after dating white guys. There is too much baggage there, and most white gays have some type of problematic aspect towards other races or darker skin people. So for me, it's friends and fucking white guys the contrast is hot, and it's fun. But a relationship is very rare unless you know they are on your side in every way.

by Anonymousreply 444February 6, 2022 4:23 AM

I agree with @443. That’s the only explanation.

by Anonymousreply 445February 6, 2022 5:27 AM

R442 Well, I just thought they'd be better asking "where are all the muscle guys at?" and leaving race out of it.

by Anonymousreply 446February 6, 2022 8:29 AM

R446 Or more politically correct:" Whera are all the guys at?" because this way you discriminate against skinny and fat.

But, it would be even better to say: "where are all the people at?", because it is unkind to rule the women out.

by Anonymousreply 447February 6, 2022 8:51 AM

No one should apologize for what would make them happy. State what you want and if you are only interested in White meat and not dark meat, more power to ya. There are plenty of cocoa men for each other. Forget all this PC crap and get down to business. Time is precious

by Anonymousreply 448February 6, 2022 9:00 AM

Hot comes in many skin tones. Not sure why people want to limit their options. But, okay. Some people have to age to learn this. Some never do.

by Anonymousreply 449February 6, 2022 9:03 AM

[Quote]Forget all this PC crap and get down to business.

R448 Except it is not about being "PC." It's funny how racist White people only bring up "PC" when it comes to their poor attempts to justify their own racist behavior.

by Anonymousreply 450February 6, 2022 12:33 PM

"White gays are like candy. Tasty, sweet, pink—I’d hook up with them, but they’re not a “full meal.” I need to be able to bring a REAL meal home to Mom."

R104 It is because you had to deal with wimpy white wokes. If you met a Balkanic stud you would hurry home to tell Mom: "Mom, I met a real man."

by Anonymousreply 451February 6, 2022 12:38 PM

[Quote]So which is worse? A guy who explicitly tastes his racial preferences or one who keeps them to himself?

Definitely, keep that shit to yourself. Nobody cares.

That's like walking up to a morbidly obese person (unsolicited) and saying "I don't like fat people."

I'm sure their response would be: "I don't give a shit. Who asked you? Sounds like you have a personal problem."

I understand that "hurt people hurt," but why insult people who haven't done anything to you? Are you that offended that non-White people appear on the dating app that you have to attack them in such a callous and vicious way? Why try to hurt other people just because you are all fucked up?

by Anonymousreply 452February 6, 2022 12:56 PM

[quote] But, it would be even better to say: "where are all the people at?", because it is unkind to rule the women out.

But doesn't this discriminate against the Furry population or those into bestiality. There's no room in 2022 for shaming others, you Nazi!!!

by Anonymousreply 453February 6, 2022 1:17 PM

I enjoy vanilla milkshakes, but I also enjoy chocolate milkshakes. Sometimes both at once, and on occasion, even strawberry. It's about the milk in the glass that I'm attracted to, not the added flavor.

by Anonymousreply 454February 6, 2022 1:20 PM

[Quote]If you met a Balkanic stud you would hurry home to tell Mom: "Mom, I met a real man."

R451 How many "Balkan Studs" are on Grindr? I am gonna round that up to ZERO. LOL

I'm not R104, but what it sounds like he's saying is that he wouldn't take home any White guys from a hookup site. He sees them as an embarrassment and something he would not want to be seen in public with. And based on what I am reading in this thread, I can certainly understand why he feels that way.

And make no mistake, the way White men drool for BBC (here and everywhere else), and the fact that only 12% of the population is Black and even a fewer % is gay, and even fewer even want to be bothered with anyone White, Black gay men have their lay of the land. There is not a Black man in America that cannot get some nice looking white dick or white ass to nut inside without the side order of racism.

So this is not about any Black man being desperate for YOU! LOL It's amazing the narcissistic over-inflated egos of the White trolls on this site. Maybe they have to tell them everybody wants them so these sad sacks don't go jump off a bridge! We all know how fragile many of you White snowflakes are. HAHAHAHA

What is the funniest about this whole discussion is that it is usually the weakest, wimpiest, most insecure and trollish White men that are putting the "no Blacks" or "no Asians" in their profile. They are the ones that Black and Asian (and even most White) men don't want anyway! HAHAHAHA!

Like you have so many offers than you can't sift through them? Gimme a break! "Sure Jan." HAHAHAHA!

by Anonymousreply 455February 6, 2022 1:22 PM

r455 Wouldn't you rather them label it to avoid them?

by Anonymousreply 456February 6, 2022 1:24 PM

r452 bad analogy.

one would hope they're not going through the site to look for those they don't like to criticize them individually but stating what they're into let's them find what they want and those that have a problem with it more easily avoid them.

by Anonymousreply 457February 6, 2022 1:31 PM

[Quote]An insane self loathing snow queen like you meanwhile , sees that man as an asshole nazi that is hurting your feelings and demeaning your existence by not giving you a chance.

R443 Nah, Nobody (Black, White or otherwise) wants a "chance" with you! HAHAHAHAHA! You're obviously bitter and angry. Most of us who have been online longer than a day recognize your type. You are undoubtedly an unemployed, uneducated, underachieving, lazy, dirty, vastly unattractive, effeminate, White 45 year old male weighing somewhere in the neighborhood of 400 lbs, sitting on a filthy mattress with no sheets in your mother's basement playing video games. Am I right? Am I right? HAHAHAHAHA

Getting a few racist trolls to agree with you on DL (but definitely not willing to touch you or even talk to you in real life) must be the highlight of your day. HAHAHAHA

Happy Sunday you racist piece of dog shit! 😂😂😂

I will NEVER tell you who I really am and I am enjoying every minute of it because I know it eats you up not to know! 😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 458February 6, 2022 1:35 PM

R457 There really is no analogy for something as vile and disgusting as racism. It is a special kind of abusiveness in a category by itself. I was just merely trying to help these fools understand how disheartening it is to walk into a place and immediately feel unwelcome.

Why do this to people? It just makes no sense.

As many others have stated, it has absolutely nothing to do with preference since there are many other things that are preferences that are nowhere in the file. What makes race so important that they need to put that out on front street. It is a calculated, shitty and classless move intended to offend.

by Anonymousreply 459February 6, 2022 1:41 PM

[Quote]Wouldn't you rather them label it to avoid them?

NO!

R456 Why label race and not everything else you don't like? Why is it so important to filter out Black and Asian guys when there are proportionately a lot less Black and Asian men than anything else?

The statement is that you are "not welcome" here. It is not about "wanting" the trolls making the statement.

The chance of them coming across a Black or an Asian man is a lot less likely than coming across a White men they are not interested in, yet they feel the need to get rid of the minorities? It is illogical, but not surprising since racism is irrational and something many White people are quite hysterical about.

The statement doesn't "avoid" racism, it does quite the opposite. It puts racism front and center.

by Anonymousreply 460February 6, 2022 1:51 PM

WTF has this thread turn into?

by Anonymousreply 461February 6, 2022 5:40 PM

I still want them to get rid of the “tribes” feature. They preach acceptance but want to categorize everyone. I hate when twinks block me. I should be able to have who I want.

by Anonymousreply 462February 6, 2022 9:24 PM

It is not racist on a hook-up site to say what kinds of people you are looking to have sex with. But according to the sensitivities of some of the "you're a racist for not fucking me IF YOU TELL ME YOU WON'T FUCK ME because I'm X" it is a social sin to be overtly exclusionary.

The point of stating preferences, positive and negative, is to avoid misunderstanding and not waste anyone's time. Plenty of African American guys will post that they are only looking for other African Americans. Do people take offense? Or is it the rudeness of only some people being specific. If a person says "white only" or "in-shape only" or whatever, are they MORE offensive?

"Have sex with whoever you want but don't say who you won't want to have sex with" is stupid and it's time for people who are at such sites to get over the fact that they're not wanted by everyone and seek those with whom they are compatible.

Or, better yet, quit mechanizing sexual experiences in a sex-only way, truly grow up, and seek sexual activity in the real world and not like someone ordering a fucking pizza where the olives are going to weep because you don't want them.

Too many hectoring busy-bodies here trying to control something that in its nature (Got it?) is problematic in more fundamental ways than playing university equity games to "fix" issues with human sexual behavior.

by Anonymousreply 463February 6, 2022 9:52 PM

[quote] No one should apologize for what would make them happy.

NO, the Woke Brigade are here to make us all UNhappy.

The Constitution says something about the Pursuit of Happiness but the Woke Brigade wan't to kill all of that as well killing off a stable society.

by Anonymousreply 464February 6, 2022 9:55 PM

R444 Good points. That would explain why some Black guys (albeit a small percentage) may have sex with a White guy but want nothing to do with the White guy afterwards. One guy upthread said he wouldn't even take one home to meet his family. I believe that.

It is sad to acknowledge, but there are STILL far too many fucking racist White people in America!

I honestly don't see a lot of Black men pursuing White men on (and especially NOT off) line. I see a lot of White men pursuing Black men though. Maybe that is because there are more gay White men both offline and online, but I definitely see the White men chasing the BBC and Black Bubble Butts! LOL That is why it is bizarre to see these pathetic White men putting "no Blacks" in their profiles. It is like a solution in search of a problem that doesn't exist. I don't see an overwhelming number of Black men thirsty for White dick. That is just not the reality.

Maybe it is a defense mechanism they use to avoid rejection by being proactive? Racists are quite sick in the head so it wouldn't surprise me.

What's probably more common though is that they want to communicate their delusions of superiority (over minorities) to other White people as some type of demented "badge of honor" as opposed to something they want to say to Black or Asian men. From the comments here it seems like any consideration of how Black and Asian men may feel about their racist comments is of no concern.. not even as an after thought. They must see them as collateral damage in their quest to "impress" other White men so it is just a big ole "Fuck You" to them... maybe? 🤷🏻

Whatever the sick reason is that these people feel the need to do this, I always find it funny how American TV and movies like to portray a token Black guy in a group of White guys but in real life you almost never see a Black man wanting to hang out with White men, not even as friends. And I have never seen a group of Black men welcome a White token into their circle of friends.

But I get it. Based on the comments of the racist White guys in this thread, I don't see even interracial platonic friendships happening in any massive numbers anytime soon. Hmmmmm... 🤔Interesting, but it should surprise no one.

by Anonymousreply 465February 6, 2022 9:57 PM

R465 So you are claiming that Blacks are anti white racists?

by Anonymousreply 466February 6, 2022 10:01 PM

How come you didn’t capitalize white R466?

by Anonymousreply 467February 6, 2022 10:15 PM

Oh, I forgot, did I offend someone?

by Anonymousreply 468February 6, 2022 10:19 PM

Yes.

by Anonymousreply 469February 6, 2022 10:20 PM

It's fashionable to be offended now.

I won't care in five years time.

by Anonymousreply 470February 6, 2022 10:22 PM

k.

by Anonymousreply 471February 6, 2022 10:23 PM

R466 I don't know what an "anti White racist" is. I have never heard that phrase.

I'm saying that racist White people perpetuate a lot of bullshit which prevents the races from coming together. This app shit is just the latest example of it.

They just need to stop being hypocrites and making excuses for their racism. There is no justification.

by Anonymousreply 472February 7, 2022 11:21 AM

R472 Anti white racism definition is a simple one, same as any other type of racism: "Prejudice or antagonism directed against someone of a different race (in this case Caucasian) based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

by Anonymousreply 473February 7, 2022 12:10 PM

R473 I have not indicated "MY" race so I am not exactly sure what race you are assuming I am. However, that doesn't really matter anyway because I can tell you that I don't put ANY race over another race. That would be a form of mental illness to even think that way. I am not mentally ill.

by Anonymousreply 474February 7, 2022 12:22 PM

I said that you described Black gay men as anti white racists in your post at 465. I never discussed your race.

by Anonymousreply 475February 7, 2022 12:25 PM

There needs to be something done with people rejecting others on Grindr. Everyone is equal and you should feel social pressure to hookup with someone even if they’re fat and old. It’s just the right thing to do.

by Anonymousreply 476February 7, 2022 12:33 PM

In your definition you specifically said "One's own race." Is that your definition @ R473?

I was not calling Black men racist. I was not calling Asian men racist. I was not calling White men racist. I was not calling any race of people racist.

So there is no confusion, (if it wasn't clear before) I am responding to the OP's article which is talking SPECIFICALLY about the White men putting race excluding language in the Grindr App and attempting to justify it.

In my opinion, THOSE SPECIFIC PEOPLE ARE RACIST!

by Anonymousreply 477February 7, 2022 12:36 PM

OOps i am R474 and not R475

by Anonymousreply 478February 7, 2022 12:38 PM

R463 R464 YOU SAID IT ALL! Thank you!!!

by Anonymousreply 479February 7, 2022 1:06 PM

How come you didn’t capitalize white, R475?

by Anonymousreply 480February 7, 2022 1:19 PM

R480 I 've done it again. You are going to think I did it on purpose.

by Anonymousreply 481February 7, 2022 1:34 PM

You didn’t because you’re racist. You’re a bizarro Trumper.

by Anonymousreply 482February 7, 2022 1:44 PM

R428 A what?

by Anonymousreply 483February 7, 2022 1:52 PM

A blue deplorable.

by Anonymousreply 484February 7, 2022 1:56 PM

R483 My point is that whether someone (of any race) chooses someone who is "bottom of the barrel" in looks has nothing to do with excluding people based on race since every race has people who are "bottom of the barrel." That is irrelevant to this conversation.

by Anonymousreply 485February 7, 2022 2:13 PM

R484 What is wrong with deplorables? Bet you are greedy for some good deplorable meat.

by Anonymousreply 486February 7, 2022 2:15 PM

But, R484 I am not gonna give you any.

by Anonymousreply 487February 7, 2022 2:22 PM

[Quote]Bet you are greedy for some good deplorable meat.

[Quote]I am not gonna give you any.

Deplorable "meat?" 😂😂😂

R486 / R487 You people are killing me!🤪

by Anonymousreply 488February 7, 2022 2:27 PM

You women are so easy on giggles R488

by Anonymousreply 489February 7, 2022 3:29 PM

R489 I'm very much NOT a woman, but my giggles make Anderson Cooper jealous. 🤪

by Anonymousreply 490February 7, 2022 4:04 PM

R490- Let's not make this a discussion about that ALBINO.

by Anonymousreply 491February 7, 2022 4:06 PM

R490 Then you must be some sweet boy.

by Anonymousreply 492February 7, 2022 4:32 PM

Again, if Grindr didn't do the performative act of eliminating the race filter (but no other filters), then people wouldn't be putting these things on their profiles (rude as some of them be).

If you can filter on age, weight, etc etc, then you should be able to filter on race.

They should also have equal outrage at all the profiles that say "no men!"

by Anonymousreply 493February 7, 2022 6:04 PM

There's no reason to be racist, which this idiot of an OP and her contingent of voices seems to think is the only way preferences and sexual attraction is based.

I just let people know that my gagging at the thought of sexual (or any) contact with them has nothing to do with their race, ethnicity, age, size, shape, disabilities, "gender," educational status, employment, religion of political association.

I tell them straight that it's completely personal and that they disgust me based on who they are as individuals.

And then I say, "Now fuck off, loser."

by Anonymousreply 494February 7, 2022 6:21 PM

The jocks should be made shamed if they don’t fuck everyone who messages them.

by Anonymousreply 495February 8, 2022 12:28 PM

[quote]How gay men justify their racism on Grindr

I confess my sin of not finding black twinks' asses as inviting as those of white twinks'. You're right, OP. It IS racist.

But my targets seldom are old enough for Grindr, and as part of my penance I'm consciously trying to include more minorities among them.

by Anonymousreply 496February 8, 2022 4:33 PM

If you're primarily attracted only to Asians, you're not racist. Stop ruining everything by insisting that we be PC. We like what we like.

by Anonymousreply 497February 9, 2022 7:41 AM

[quote] Stating ethnic preferences is fucking rude

Yes, R94 stating gender preferences is f*cking rude.

by Anonymousreply 498May 10, 2022 10:18 PM

R498 = an idiot who doesn't understand the difference between race and gender as the moron attempts to equate race with gender on a dating app. Wow! That is some real stupidity! Obviously this person doesn't have the mental capabilities to understand this conversation.

by Anonymousreply 499May 11, 2022 4:24 PM

[quote] Obviously

You must be a psychologist, R499. Have you contributed your diagnostic skill in this thread?

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by Anonymousreply 500May 11, 2022 11:15 PM

R500 You read what I said. Don't try to distract with bullshit. You know I'm right.

by Anonymousreply 501May 13, 2022 6:26 PM

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by Anonymousreply 502May 13, 2022 6:26 PM

I've had sex with all types of men except for Asian. Not because I didn't want to, it just never happened.

I prefer men that are similar to me, Mediterranean looking and will not apologize for it. That's my preference and I am allowed to have it.

by Anonymousreply 503May 13, 2022 6:29 PM

R503 Nobody gives a shit what your preference is. That is not an excuse to be a racist turd. Sleep with whoever is unfortunate enough to allow that to occur. Nobody cares.... really.

by Anonymousreply 504May 13, 2022 6:33 PM

Go suck your father's clit R504

by Anonymousreply 505May 13, 2022 6:40 PM

R505, I'd tell you to do the same thing, but I'm pretty sure bestiality is illegal.

by Anonymousreply 506May 13, 2022 6:47 PM

Listen you fat Nazi fuck - I am allowed to have a preference and that does not make me a "racist turd".

You telling me I can't have my preferences makes you a vile piece of shit, as you've fully displayed here.

Go do something productive for once and knit a noose. R504, R506

by Anonymousreply 507May 13, 2022 6:52 PM

R503, R505, R507 Are you going through some kind of recent cognitive decline or have you always been a total moron?

I specifically said fuck whomever you want. You can have whatever preference you want. Nobody gives a shit. You do not have the right to inflict your racism on other people. How stupid is this low level piece of shit be? LOL How can we make this clearer to your dumbass?

Maybe you are just a lost cause....? You are a fucking neanderthal! And in case you are wondering, that is not a compliment

by Anonymousreply 508May 14, 2022 3:01 PM
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