Hugh Hefner Played with Boys

I mean I thought Hugh was bi all along after he admitted to experimenting with guys in the 70s

R1 he probably tightened up when AIDS came along

He does seem like that bisexual who only loves men and uses women for sex. Marlon Brando was another one.

Not really surprising. The first article of Playboy had Marilyn Monroe on the cover and featured her nude pictures, it was essentially a fan tribute to his queen Marilyn. The whole multiple girlfriends thing was total overcompensation, He also looks like he smells cookies in the picture used in OP's linked article.

Insatiable bottom.

R3 like a closet case but reversed. Interesting. A guy who wants to go out and plow pussy but come home and cuddle with a man and suck his dick.

The prolapsed queens will start screaming he’s 100% gay now, because if you ever touch another dick you’re gay and bisexuality is a lie.

He looks like what he was: the proverbial dirty old man who tried to hide his sleezy perviness behind a very thin facade of "class" and "sophistication." Also, major drug addict.

DLers seem to think bisexuals are only mostly straight guys who fuck innocent gays and break their hearts to fall in love and settle with a woman. A common cliche in gay and lesbian movies too. When in actuality many bisexual men do prefer men and only can fall in love with another man. If they're marrying a woman it's only because they cave into social pressure or desire for children. It's choosing an easy path. I think Hef had a reputation to maintain. His readership also was contingent on his image. On Girls Next Door, Hef came across as a cultured old queen. Not very sexual to his girlfriends.

Again, nothing new here. Ex girlfriends years ago went on the record that he had gay porn playing during the orgies and only seemed able to get off while watching it. He had women use dildos on him. His erections at the orgies were all medically produced. Again, all on the record.

Hefner also never owned the Playboy mansion. He was renting it, by the room. E.g., he paid $X for his bedroom, different amounts (per month) depending on which room.

It's also on the record that he has John Holmes brought in to fuck him.

That won't happen R6, because the prolapsed queens tend to have some semblance of good taste. Hugh Hefner looked like a dessiccated vulture when he was young, and he looked like he had been embalmed in vaginal thrush secretions for the last 30 years of his life. He was disgusting all around.

As R7 says, he was nothing but a dirty (and increasinyl pathetic) old man who liked to play Cary Grant dress up.

[quote]he probably tightened up when AIDS came along

Alas, after John Holmes, there was no tightening possible.

I don't understand the reasoning behind the sudden focus on Hefner's supposed abuse. He's been dead for a few years. He ran a pornographic magazine that hired hot young girls to pose nude and a bunch of gentlemen's clubs that employed young women to wear bunny outfits. Women chose to work with him and chose to date and marry him. It's not like he was a film producer, a CEO, a college dean or etc that was forcing girls to sleep with him for careers. He ran a porn company and was pretty clear on what that entailed. And girls who agreed to be his sugar baby had conditions they had to follow. None of them were forced to do anything.

He could give me a prostate exam...with his DICK

His whole lifestyle screams gay sophisticate.

Can you imagine how many male celebs had sex with Hugh Hefner. He was probably offering his bussy up like cupcake.

He was a pimp who promoted himself as a pussyhound in order to build his brand. Who knows what his actual preferences were.

Playboy Mansion Grotto: nacreous layers of old man permacum.

Hugh Hefner: Eldergay

R18 his preference is self explanatory. If he was having sex with men also then he is bisexual. Don't pretend to be confused.

Heinous. Hugh Hefner was hideous.

Regardless r8, they can still get sexually stimulated by a woman. Can you?

R14, Hefner pulled off one of the world's biggest cons: He convinced innumerable young women (and later not so young) that being shown naked to countless men and boys could be "classy." And further, that being named "Playmate of the Year" was akin to winning an Academy Award.

I don't think he convinced them it was "classy." I think they were more likely messed up, desperate for validation or needed money.

Nancy Sinatra was fooled. And we all saw her middle aged minge.

A lot of women like being sexy and desired. So do many men. It's thrilling. Humans crave validation whether it's being praised for being intelligent, talented, funny, beautiful and etc. We are social animals. Mass media simply heightens our primal instincts. We tried hard to repress our desires using religion and once the 1960s hit. People wanted to rebel against the moral institutions and get paid for it too.

Was there a Playgirl mansion?

R25, It was de rigeuer for a Playmate to say how "classy" her pictures looked, to give the world an ostensible reason for her compliance. And what makes you think there was any significant, or otherwise, money involved?

Were the "models" "likely messed up"? IDK, and neither do you. Frankly, I think most people are. But we are speaking of different parts of the mind and psyche.

He was a sex addict. Says a lot about the times.

"Hefner also never owned the Playboy mansion"

Playboy Enterprises owned the Mansion and Hugh Hefner leased it from them. You'll never guess who was the biggest stockholder in Playboy Enterprises.

That's just good business

Been there. Still doing that.

Thank you, Capt. Obvious at r27. But there's a quantum leap from wanting to "feel desired" to posing nude for people whom one will never meet. Then, one's desirability can only be imagined.

While the 60s were a wild decade, "Playboy" debuted in 1953.

R28

^ But no girls allowed

[quote] was even at his bedside when he died at his Holmby Hills mansion.

Could that have been because of the “personal doctor” part?

Tell me about his doctor bf, DL.

I'll bet the good doctor was an expert at treating STDs

[quote] Thank you, Capt. Obvious at [R27]. But there's a quantum leap from wanting to "feel desired" to posing nude for people whom one will never meet. Then, one's desirability can only be imagined.

Well, people want to become famous and admired by people the never meet. What's the different between that and posing nude. Actors appeared nude in film and models appeared nude in some artistic shoots and that was always a thing since the advent of photography. People used to pose nude for paintings and that's been for centuries. What's different than being erotic model or porn star?

[quote] While the 60s were a wild decade, "Playboy" debuted in 1953.

Men also posed nude in athletic catalogs that were mostly used by gay men. And that was before the '60s.

I’d love to buy Rock’s estate. Beautiful.

Growing up in Chicago in the 60s and 70s when Playboy was HQ’d there I remember how the Playboy building dominated the skyline, especially at night when it was all lit up.

There was a local TV show (or maybe it was national, idk) called ‘Playboy After Dark,’ featuring Hef, his gf Barbi Benton and various sophisticated guests. Hef would be doing his White Guy Dance with Barbi. I was grossed out but fascinated at the same time.

Playboy hosted Jazz Festivals starting in 1959.

[quote] The Chicago Stadium hosted a three-day, five-show jazz festival organized by Playboy and benefiting the Chicago Urban League, Aug. 7-9, 1959. The first night's performers, according to an Aug. 8, 1959, Chicago Tribune review, included Count Basie's band, Miles Davis and Dave Brubeck.

He was a perv but he did some great stuff too. Imagine what that concert must have been like. Count Basie’s band, Miles Davis and Dave Brubeck, all on the same night??

Playboy Magazine and the nude photoshoots therein were "classy" when compared to other porn magazines, especially when it was first published.

They were not, and never pretended to be, DAR Pearl-Clutching Main Line classy -- just porno classy.

R16- Oh this champagne is really making my nose bubbly- That Lenny Bruce is the one that sounds like a QUEEN.

They airbrushed public hair and didn't show too much pink. Aimed for more artistic nudes. Penthouse showed hair and vag. Hustler had actual fucking.

Hugh's appearance as the Mystery Guest on What's My Line?

I think he was kinda cute.

Oh well....

With all the negatives, Hef did liberalize sex for everyone and that is a very good thing. Didn't have an inkling he was bisexual. He had to hide that from his magazine subscribers-lol.

He was hot. Inquisitive, open minded, worldly. Intelligent, romantic, with a love for nostalgia. And the pipe. His bisexuality adds to his mystique.

I heard for years he was into both sexes

I want his son's sperm in me so badly. He's odly sexy and a nice little liberal. Ran for Congress, obviously lost.

I think the birth control pill had more to do with liberalizing sex than Hefner ever did.

R50- Sit down. I need to tell you something-

You're a WHORE darlin.

I thought he was rather handsome. Strange to see him being trashed here and in recent press. I thought us gays were supposed to be sex-positive.

He provided much-needed positive press for dedicated sluts. The country had enough prudes and anti-sex fundies. Without Playboy the USA would be Handmaid's Tale.

I'll proudly be his whore and spend his Playboy millions, or whatever his wife isn't spending. He also served in the Air Force and looks a little gay, like his famous daddy. I'd happily swallow his load.

That old geocities gossip site said he had a huge gay porn collection.

R51 Hef ran editorials in his magazine championing Birth Cobtrol before it was a mainstream discussion

I worked for Playboy Magazine back in the early 90s. It was a GREAT job - I was an executive assistant to their marketing director in the NYC office. The pay was excellent, everyone was kind and chill and they were very pro-gay. His daughter Christie was really running the magazine, not HH, and she was super-glam but also down to earth.

The only weird thing were the huge 6-foot portraits of nude women on the walls. But you got used to it.

I had a similar experience R57

I went to Patti Reagan's party at the Playboy bldg on 5th Ave. In the 90s. It was fun, I was photographed w/ Fred Schneider, met A.J Benza in the bathroom, schmoozed with Dominic Dunne for over an hour, and told Ms. Reagan I wished her peace (the song she wrote on The Eagles album). Thanks Howard Rubenstein and family !

Been to the Playboy Mansion many times in the 90's. Hefner always had these big black dudes as security. Everyone knew they were securing his wrinkled old arse.

Playboy's Penthouse 1959

Hosted by Hugh Hefner

with special guests:

Ella Fitzgerald

Lenny Bruce

Rona Laffe

Nat "King" Cole

Cy Colman's Trio

My parents (in their 90s) went to high school with Hugh Hefner in Chicago. My mom said he was really friendly to everyone, always drove a convertible with two pretty girls in the front seat with him. She said although Hefner was likeable most of the"nice" girls knew to stay clear of him

"Yearbook photos of Hugh Hefner from Steinmetz High School"

r62 those nice girls probably kicked themselves consider his success.

Why would they kick themselves? He didn't treat women very well.

Straight men want pussy, women want money and to be blindly worshipped. What is it so hard for straights to understand this?

Before Woketardism, this would've been about as newsworthy as a new chocolate chip cookie recipe in Ladies Home Journal.

R67 much like the true crime podcast cat ladies we’re supposed to wallow in the perceived wrongs of others and feel superior because of it. Martyrdom and justified misery disguised with a hero complex is the name of the game.

The biggest sin of Hef is to not make a gay version of Playboy magazine with gay-themed Playboy clubs.

"Was there a Playgirl mansion?"

It was the third stall from the end in the men's room at the old Marshall Fields in Chicago.

"Was there a Playgirl mansion?"

Downtown Atlanta Rich's 4th floor men's room

Somehow all of this makes sense. Everything about Hef screamed "overcompensation."

His hole must have seen so much traffic.

R53, Why did that Eisenhower-era laudatory social movement not involve nude young males?

There was a man who published nudes

Of women, designed for the dudes.

Society said,

"Sex repression is dead!

No men, though---with them, we'll stay prudes!"

^ Do you really not understand how the double standard works?

There were plenty of male nudes then and now. It's just they were targeted to gay or bi men and thus not as mainstream. Gay directors were inserting male nude scenes since the advent of film.

He’s getting Me Too’d…after he’d dead. Which is cowardly and shitty.

This makes sense. He was a happy hedonist, and I don't see that America has to have one of our neurotic tantrums about this particular trauma.

Was this the gay Playboy?

Oddly enough if it wasn't for Hef, Al Parker would have never started doing porn.

I'd love to get me some Al Parker. Never heard of him till r80's post (born 10 years after the 70s). Reminds me of one of my PE teachers.

Can we please stop predator-shaming? LEAVE HEF ALONE!!!!

The most prolific pussy peddler in modern times was secretly gay. Sounds about right. No. Seriously. Likewise, all these gay porn actors claiming to be straight are full of shit. They're only catering to the gay man fantasy of straight men engaging in homosexuality. That's the fact jack. That will be all.

The fact he aimed for Playboy to be "classy" and "artistic" and had the magazine be full of glamour, sophisticated articles and male fashion and even the way female models were photographed more like sculptures with airbrushing and poses. It seems less like a straight man's vision and more of a gay art student's. Hustler is what straight men liked to see, women getting fucked, showing all their vag and assholes spread.

One of Hefner's 3 sons is gay, apparently, but I don't know which one. The barber who used to cut my hair told me that Hugh Hefner's son came in for a haircut, and introduced his male lover.

I laughed that he treated the Playboy Mansion like Versailles. He was the Sun King and held court via his parties. His girls’ dogs even shit all over the place, just like in the real Versailles.

He was a brilliant marketer and knew what would sell the best. His personal sexual preferences remained personal and his public image was to help sell his brand

Hustler may have been more of what straight men wanted, but Hef was smart enough to know that it was going to be a big legal target and it was. Larry Flynt probably paid more in lawyer fees than he ever made with his magazine. Hef largely stayed away from that and profited greatly.

R87 Yes. And Hef's vision for Playboy made it also appealing to women and it had female readership because it had interesting content and female writers too. Hustler pissed off women's rights groups and rightly so.

R88 good or bad, Larry Flynt did more to protect free speech than any other citizen in history and that’s a fact

I think he was a Charlie Sheen type: a creep who will stick it in anything.

One of his ex-girlfriend said that she caught him trying to rape her dog.

He was a jaded pervert.

After decades of easily available snatch he was desperate for any kind of transgressive thrill, be it bestiality of being fucked up the ass by John Holmes.

In the end he was doped up with anti depressants and fake-erection pills. The lie of the Playboy "philosophy" exposed; he needed fake happiness and fake boners to carry it forth.

[quote]One of Hefner's 3 sons is gay, apparently, but I don't know which one. The barber who used to cut my hair told me that Hugh Hefner's son came in for a haircut, and introduced his male lover.

Which one(s) is not married to a woman? Start there to start narrowing it down.

Well, that's not always a factor...

I should have questioned the barber further about it, but it was just a passing comment, and I was still trying to process it when he went on to some other topic. He probably didn't know the name of the son anyway. I could go back someday and get another haircut from him and possibly bring it up, but it's been 3 or 4 years now. He's in a small mountain resort town that I don't get to very often any more.

If I were to guess it would be David Hefner, Hugh's 66 year old first son who has never married and was never part of the Playboy world

It's all those things R51. The sexual revolution was a process not and event.

I watched The Girls Next Door in the late 2000's and thought Hef totally came across like an eccentric eldergay.

^ I loved that show, but Hugh was everyone's senile, dirty old grandpa

Reasonable guess, R94, but he looks like he doesn't need a haircut very often.

I suspect his son Cooper may be bi too. That's how he comes across. Being into the dudes for fun and experimentation.

R75, Do you really not understand how sarcasm works?

R76, "Plenty"? Get real. Not in the open, not in the bookstores with "Playboy," there weren't. "Underground" or "way in the back room" doesn't count in this argument. You might as well say there was nothing ground-breaking about Hefner and "Playboy" because stag films already existed.

And yes, I am aware of that window in movies without Code.

I don't think male nudity was ever as taboo as female. Didn't men swim in the nude in public? Plenty of paintings of nude men too. The female body was far more shamed and sexualized.

I don't imagine Hugh ever really loved anyone, male or female, but he became co-dependent with anyone of any gender that he used to maintain his fantasy. With Hugh and the doctor it was a number of factors: 1.) The doctor supplied H with drugs and H became dependent on those drugs to make him feel better. This turned into sexual dependency, especially when it came to substances allowing H to continue to have extreme sex physically at old age and/or after H lost interest in sex. 2.) When administering sexual-performance drugs, the good doctor probably helped gauge or intensify the effects by sucking H off to allow him to attain and maintain an erection before group sex. 3.) For legal reasons, the doctor was there to prevent deaths due to accidents or overdoses in the mansion, and there must have been scary close calls when H felt the doctor saved him from legal issues due to submissives, rape victims, and addicts almost dying. 4.) Due to the intense, violent, and demeaning nature of certain fetishes, the doctor was likely on call at all hours to monitor drugged participants who were unconscious and/or to treat humans who suffered degrading animal attacks or other wounds from bindings and illegal sexual acts. 4.) The doctor treated STDs and likely performed illegal abortions. 5.) When H was dying, the doctor was likely there giving drugs to make sure he wasn't suffering. ALL these complex matters lead to the most intense co-dependence in H's life, which must have felt emotional and sexual.

That’s an awful lot of imagining.

I don't care. He was never attractive. And I'm really turned on by Aries men.

If you look up “magical thinking,” you’ll see a picture of r102

R72 not unlike Leo D

From what's being said in the doc, on here, and on other websites like Twitter (about Hefner, working at Playboy etc) it's pretty obvious that he was genuinely complex. Some bad, some good. I was mildly surprised to see that the first two parts of the doc weren't total hit jobs, but it still reads like a buyer's remorse MeToo for some of the live-in bunnies.

r67 and r68 are the conservabot trolls who whine about "woke" shit all day while their fellow conservatives are trying to ban LGBT books

"He’s getting Me Too’d…after he’d dead. Which is cowardly and shitty."

If they had said this while he was alive, you'd attack them for that, too

As a photographer I have to say you guys are wack jobs.

Playboy photography is marvelous .

Photographers used old school George Hurrell lighting techniques in colored contemporary settings. Their lighting setups were inspired by the 1930’s and 1940’s Hollywood and were anti-portrait photography, they lit models up like it was a movie set. They used 11-18+ lights vs the standard 3 light portrait setup, it was remarkable from a technical standpoint.

I remember a few months ago everyone here was raving about Playgirl, which for the most part is disgusting and sloppy photography work.

The closest gay imagery that got close to Playboy was Falcon Studios in the 90’s and early 2000’s. Chichi LaRue was definitely influenced by Playboy.

The Andrea Dworkinism in this thread is gross.

As a photographer I absolutely love love love Shannon Tweed’s 80’s Playboy spread. I think Hurrell shot some of the photos as well.

Oh who care if Hefner fucked a guy or guys. He was a sleazy asshole. That's all you need to know about him.

r110, do you mean this one? Cause i can see a gay man styling her like a 40's movie star.

As far as Hugh’s sexuality goes…

First of all, it’s obnoxious for so many here to see in black and white and say OH well this all means he’s gay and a closeted homo! Can’t be bisexuality, that’s not real! You’re either gay or straight if you’re a man!

I think money and power play a great role in male sexuality and when a man has money and power, he has more freedom to be sexually liberated.

It comes from the same place when straight rock stars and rappers wear women’s clothes and adopt feminine decadence in fashion and still get laid. Harry Styles wears dresses because he knows most girls he meet will fuck him in that dress.

It’s a pattern you see in ancient civilizations - gay sex was for the rich and powerful men.

I think that has a little to do with it. And I’m not saying straight as an arrow men do this but sexually fluid / bisexual men certainly feel more open to act on it.

Bisexuality has always been a sign of decadence. That’s why there’s a long history of it in Hollywood. And like Oberyn Martell in Game of Thrones, his character was inspired by that concept that’s always been there but is never really discussed.

R112 Yes, that’s the photoshoot! I absolutely love it. The entire pictorial is gorgeous.

As a photographer like I said the lighting setups are incredible.

Jezebel did this anti-Playboy article exposing the retouching notes and showed the original photos before they were retouched. And because the lighting was so perfect, they really didn’t have to retouch much compared to what you see in regular portrait shoots.

I mean just look at Gaga and Madonna’s non-retouched photos. Then look at a Playboy non-retouched photo and you tell me who the best photographers are.

Photographers like Stephen Wayda and Arny Freytag are light years beyond fashion photographers like Steven Klein and Mert and Marcus.

The worst Playboy shoot I’ve seen was Joanie Laurer (Chyna) and I don’t blame them she was just ugly.

r110/r115 they did the best they could, lol. i think showing the photos adds to your stories, even if it's tits and puss, which DL is allergic to.

The notes on what was to be airbrushed out didn't make him look very good. He literally wanted every flaw, line or crease on the face or body removed.

By the 2000s, the airbrushing and photoshop got extremely bad. Chyna's layouts were bad, but Belinda Carlisle's (literally all looked like oil pantings), Carnie Wilson's, and Lindsay Lohan's were widely mocked. Tia Carrera and Kristy Swanson's were pretty bad too.

Actually, Kristy Swanson's was very good. You're 100% right about the Belinda Carlisle layout. It was one of the most disappointing ones Playboy ever did. I really liked Belinda Carlisle and was looking forward to it.

R117 I mean in todays world, most fashion and commercial photography is done on Photoshop. Even the biggest photographers today do the bare minimum because it’ll all be cleaned up and fixed in editing. It’s to the point where the original images are horrible.

Like the Gaga Versace shoot for example. The photography did next to nothing. He just clicked the photos and it was done.

All of the lighting and shadows and hair and makeup was done in the editing - on top of shrinking the body and head.

I mean look at the unretouched Playboy photos they’re not as bad as this.

R118 I just looked it up. It’s horrible and it was exactly what I had expected.

The photographer was a fashion / music photographer. His name is Richard McLaren. I’ll bet it was at the request of Belinda because she probably didn’t want to work with an in house Playboy photographer.

That’s why they look like shit!

I’ll bet everyone you guys mentioned didn’t use in house Playboy photographers.

Chyna did but Chynas simply ugly lol.

I think Playboy went downhill visually when they went digital and just embraced new technology. They were using an 8x10 camera all the way into the 2000’s.

They had to keep up with the times. The luxurious scenic bedrooms turned into simple or plain backdrops. The lighting style became more Rolling Stone and less old school Hollywood.

Lohan’s Playboy shoot was definitely at her request. I think the biggest problem is Lohan isn’t sexy. She was pretty but never sexy.

Lohan looked kinda soft and flabby in her pictorial. If I had a nude shoot coming up I'd be working out religiously leading up to it.

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^Hugh Hefner's mother was a ghetto whore which explains the brother. Hugh was quoted as saying, "We just can't keep mom away from BBC, it's our biggest family shame"

/s

the doc was UGLY

OP- Hugh Hefner played with BOYS

That's a DAMN OLD boy in that photograph

R124, Married women going after BBC in that time period? Just wasn't done among middle-class WASP mothers. Bet it screwed up HH.

r123 Gurl just layed out in the sun extra long.

HH was jewish, and not wasp.

r129 No indications of that. He was of Germanic and Northern European and European ethnicity, allegedly related to the Bushes. Protestant background.

He was a Methodist and of Swedish, English and German descent. Typical White American from the Midwest. I would not say he was WASP though. That's more of a Northeast thing. Most white Midwesterners and Southerners come from the working-class roots.

So were the hot women just bait to lure the men?

^Bingo! Very unoriginal.

The women were all beards and whores. Even the joyless clinical hetro sex was bearding. Hef only liked breaking down boundaries and breaking people so he got tired of sex with willing women (whores) and wanted sex with animals, children, and men---anything he would have have to hide as taboo.

r106 Speaking of which, I wonder if Hef ever hooked up with Leo, who used to spend a lot of time at the Playboy Mansion during his Pussy Posse days. Hmmm....

Hefner was worldly and sophisticated. I could see that appealing to young Leonardo. Given Leo was linked to Lukas Haas and Tobey Maguire. I don't think he cares all about looks.

R131- I think you're wrong. I read an article where Hugh Hefner said he was descending from the Mayflower people.

OP- So Hugh Hefner played with boys

I should have known you'd know where to find the BOYS and the booze.

The Playboy Empire - case of massive over-compensation by Hefner?

^ Nice work if you can find it. Most guys who overcompensate just buy a big truck

[quote]Hugh Hefner Played with Boys

Duh. That's why I called it Playboy.

Hefner was a notorious heterosexual. On the Kinsey scale he'd be way up there with a tiny bi edge during orgies. He was a massive pussyhound. It's well documented. What gay man has sex with thousands of women? Christ, most of you posters are idiots. And OP's headline is misleading to say the least.

Hefner, himself, said that he was bisexual. It came from his own mouth (no pun intended).

@r142, Sounds like you're afraid that the whole foundation of heterosexual manhood is being threatened. Relax, dear, you're still allowed to fuck whoever you please

R143 For the last time, he wrote in his biography he experimented during orgies around the 1960’s. He never said “I am bisexual”. If I’m wrong, please post a link to the quote.

R142 is all over DL posting shit like this. No body's gay or bi according to her.

Yes, I played with boys and was into the homosex. I faked all those orgasms with thousands and thousands of women and built an empire around hawt women just so I could get some boys. Lots and lots of boys. All the boys I could ever have. Barbi Benton was actually BART Benton. He was a dude and we had the homosex. And after a lifetime of the lady sex and the boys, I realized I was attracted to platypuses. You have never had sex like the sex you have with platypuses. Why do you think they call them platypussies! I would call Jack Hanna and Steve Irwin and we would have orgies with platypuses. It's a shame Steve died after having sex with that stingray. He was always shouting "Sting me with your stinger, stingray!" Like, ALL THE TIME. Oh well, he died doing what he loved. Sex with stingrays.

Bisexuality isn't real her apparently.

Hef was a pussyhound, but he liked some homosex on the side.

A hole is a hole. Like most rich men Hef wasn't scared to have homosex because he wanted fo experience all the world's pleasures. So many straight men deny their physical joys by not playing with their own holes or getting blowjobs from another male.

Live-in playmates said that HH always had gay porn, and only GAY porn, running on a continuous reel during his sex sessions with his multiple girlfriends. Wearing matching pink pj's, they acted like cheerleaders calling out "Fxck her Daddy."

Female guests who refused to frequent the grotto, where anything goes orgies took place, were barred from return visits to mansion parties. Likely they were being filmed.

Some have said that there were a lot of parallels between HH and Jeffrey Epstein although the former had much more charm and surface good manners.

Conversations between HH and the playmates always sounded like how a kindly grandfather would talk to his very young grandchild whom he barely knew. Did he think choosing young women with limited intelligence and generally little education made them much more pliable?

After the playmates were pressured into getting ever larger boob jobs, and ended up in the hospital when they ruptured (par for the course re early surgeries), HH immediately broke off contact. His gay security detail were responsible for getting the girls and their possessions out of the mansion. HH really regarded the playmates as live plastic dolls.

r136 Hef was just the type of dirty daddy Leo would have liked.

Al Parker began at the Playboy mansion where he was a personal assistant to Hefner. He was "discovered" and went into porn. So yeah, I'd say he and Parker played.

Hef should have funded a gay version of Playboy with hot twinks and jocks. Make gay sex more mainstream in the 60s and 70s, convince people it's classy.

I just read somewhere that Playboy magazine was originally conceived by Hef to promote the male BISEXUAL lifestyle, but the concept was abandoned as it was too daring for the day.