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The Power of The Dog

What did you think? I found it stark and beautiful.

Benedict Cumberbatch was solid as Phil. He loved that Bronco Henry. He was so strong but trapped in life.

Kodi Smit-McPhee was outstanding as Peter. I can’t wait to see him in other movies! Was Peter gay? It was implied obviously but never 100% clear. Maybe he just knew what was up. Perhaps the book sheds more light?

And Kirsten Dunst! I didn’t even recognize her until halfway through, stumbling around drunk. She delivered.

Hate to say it, but Jesse Plemons is just hitting this same notes again and again. His performance did not stand up to the others. We need some range please. Getting tired of that “I smell something bad and it’s probably me” look. And I’ll NEVER forgive him for, “I’m Thinking About Ending Things,” the worst and most unrewarding movie I’ve been seen.

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by Anonymousreply 26March 7, 2022 4:16 PM

Spoiler alert - I may be dense, but did Peter intentionally provide Phil with anthrax laced rawhide? It seems like the only logical answer.

by Anonymousreply 1January 22, 2022 2:15 PM

OP, you thick cunt, this film has already been discussed to death on here.

by Anonymousreply 2January 22, 2022 2:17 PM

You’re a thick cunt R2. Do you think I didn’t search it up and read the dead stump threads before posting? Nobody discussed the film in any detail. (and now you can be an even bigger cunt and start linking to specific posts).

by Anonymousreply 3January 22, 2022 2:44 PM

r1 Jane Campion intentionally left a lot to the viewer’s imagination. But yeah, he definitely did. He got it from that dead cow. The confirmation comes at the end of the film when his mom and fatso come back from dinner sober. He’s watching from upstairs, turns and smiles.

by Anonymousreply 4January 22, 2022 2:46 PM

Are we going to be subjected to "couples" acting together from now on?

Kirsten and Jesse

Maggie Gyllenhaal and Peter Sarsgaard

Melissa McCarthy and whatshisname

It takes me out of the movie.

by Anonymousreply 5January 22, 2022 3:15 PM

I love Kirsten but couldn’t get through this - I had to turn it off when Benjamin’s character started punching a tied up horse in the face - nope!

by Anonymousreply 6January 22, 2022 3:44 PM

R6, that scene really disturbed me too. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a character punching a horse in the face on film before.

by Anonymousreply 7January 22, 2022 4:07 PM

R7-Blazing Saddles.

by Anonymousreply 8January 22, 2022 4:16 PM

r6 it did seem like he was actually punching the horse in the face.

by Anonymousreply 9January 22, 2022 4:34 PM

But he was supposed to be an asshole so it fit his character. And his carelessness toward other creatures/people. Except for Bronco Henry.

by Anonymousreply 10January 22, 2022 4:35 PM

[Quote] Getting tired of that “I smell something bad and it’s probably me” look

🤣🤣🤣 you beitch.

by Anonymousreply 11January 22, 2022 7:39 PM

Did I see a dick? I think I saw a dick. Just a flash.

by Anonymousreply 12January 22, 2022 7:43 PM

Oh yes. You did.

by Anonymousreply 13January 22, 2022 8:21 PM

Thanks r13 I wonder if he'd shown up shaved on set, would Campion have made Cumberbatch sport a merkin? Wardrobe and makeup departments must know these things or do they not get the script?

by Anonymousreply 14January 23, 2022 9:07 PM

For R7, a horse getting slapped.

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by Anonymousreply 15January 23, 2022 11:58 PM

Enjoyed it, but was left wondering if it might seem to be a bit more than it is to the hetero crowd?

It was clear to me from scene one—with Benedict Cumberbatch reacting so defensively about the paper flowers—that we were supposed to take him as repressed/closeted. The movie then removed all ambiguity when Kodi Smit-McPhee discovers the gay porn in the woods, and Cumberbatch jerks off into his mentor’s scarf. I actually think all of that came off as gilding the lily.

I think the only ambiguity or nuance was in the power dynamics between Cumberbatch (who was himself groomed, and seemingly doing the same) and Kodi. Was Kodi supposed to actually be gay? A sociopath? He did seem very calculated in hugs final seduction scene with Cumberbatch, but obviously there’s an extra layer of him being a child and being pursued by an adult.

Overall, interesting. Great performances. But I did find it all a bit obvious and unsubtle?

by Anonymousreply 16January 24, 2022 12:33 AM

R13 parts of it were but not the core question of Kodi’s sexuality, as you note. did anyone ready the book????

by Anonymousreply 17January 25, 2022 1:35 AM

What a snorefest.

by Anonymousreply 18February 21, 2022 12:20 AM

so what’s the read on Sam Elliott eviscerating this? His comments are pretty inarticulate, but I can’t help wondering how much of it is fueled by homophobia?

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by Anonymousreply 19March 1, 2022 4:54 PM

But power of the dog is based on a novel from 1967 by a man, Thomas savage. Jane campion simply filmed it. I didn’t read the novel so unless she changed it drastically and included a homosexual element that wasn’t already there… regardless I guess Elliott is just not into brokeback mountain and this one. Personally it made westerns more relatable for me as a gay man.

by Anonymousreply 20March 1, 2022 5:02 PM

All the gay stuff is in the novel.

by Anonymousreply 21March 1, 2022 5:18 PM

*SPOILER* R13 Pete (Kodi) is a psychopath, and 100% murdered his own father. His mother knows this, hence her alcoholism.

by Anonymousreply 22March 1, 2022 6:24 PM

I watched this last night, using last year's threads as Cliff's Notes. I loved it and will probably rewatch it to catch things I missed the first time.

Question: Someone mentioned that it's implied that Peter has a boyfriend. When was that?

by Anonymousreply 23March 7, 2022 3:42 PM

R22, I didn't catch that—I thought Rose drank because Phil was a raging asshole.

by Anonymousreply 24March 7, 2022 3:45 PM

[quote] Question: Someone mentioned that it's implied that Peter has a boyfriend. When was that?

He is trying on clothes with his mom and he mentions he made a friend at school. He says they call each other nicknames based on what they're going to school for or something along those lines. I don't recall anything being said that implies a gay relationship but of course people on DL assume so.

by Anonymousreply 25March 7, 2022 4:15 PM

I am embarrassed to admit that the movie went over my head the first time I saw it but I watched it again last night and sure enough ....it is pretty much all right there in front of you if you pay attention. I still say an additional scene or two demonstrating how Phil is tormenting Rose leading her to heavy drinking would have helped. It's sort of puzzling why she is acting like such a basket case when the governor and her in-laws come for the visit. The scene where Phil plays the banjo to mock her piano playing makes sense on hindsight but when I saw it for the first time I actually found it ambiguous, as though he might be softening toward Rose and playing along with her. Regardless on second viewing I found it to be a pretty great movie!

by Anonymousreply 26March 7, 2022 4:16 PM
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