It sounds like a disease and it erases women-hood. Women who are same sex attracted should refer to themselves as gay women.
Let’s retire the word lesbian
|by Anonymous||reply 87||January 19, 2022 9:03 AM|
It’s so funny. Sylvia Rivera, who is now being seeing as a trans pioneer, along with Marsha P. Johnson, had a few words about the word lesbian.
The comments are turned off on YouTube. Couldn’t be because Sylvia would have thought todays alphabet soup is stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||January 16, 2022 5:22 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 2||January 16, 2022 6:16 PM|
Lesbian = female same sex attraction. It’s an accurate word that supports the reality of biological sex.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||January 16, 2022 6:25 PM|
I never understood why there was a special word for gay females when gay men don't have an equivalent word. Gay men are greater in number and more visible in the gay community, so I would think they would have the specific word defining them.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||January 16, 2022 6:31 PM|
Oh do shit up, r4.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||January 16, 2022 6:33 PM|
Never heard of Sappho, r5?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||January 16, 2022 6:33 PM|
"Cane Ladies" was quite current ten years ago
|by Anonymous||reply 7||January 16, 2022 6:34 PM|
Bread Pudding eaters? Crab Walkers?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||January 16, 2022 6:34 PM|
I hate the word too. It is an ugly word with ugly connotations.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||January 16, 2022 6:48 PM|
Fuck you, OP!
|by Anonymous||reply 10||January 16, 2022 6:55 PM|
R4 Lesbian are called Lesbian because gay men pretty much monopolized the term. The term gay in relation to same sex attraction was associated with men long before it was associated with women. As early as the late 1600s, gay had begun to refer to carefree and amoral pleasure. A “gay house” was a straight brothel, a gay man was a womanizer, and a gay woman was a prostitute. This gave rise to the expression gay boy, which was basically a gay male prostitute and it is from this that gay began to mean same sex attracted men.
Lesbian is a fine term. Women deserve their own language.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||January 16, 2022 6:59 PM|
Not even trying anymore
|by Anonymous||reply 12||January 16, 2022 7:01 PM|
[quote] Oh do shit up
|by Anonymous||reply 13||January 16, 2022 7:04 PM|
Let's retire the word QUEER while we're at it.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||January 16, 2022 7:15 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 15||January 17, 2022 12:44 AM|
[quote]...when gay men don't have an equivalent word. Gay men are greater in number and more visible in the gay community, so I would think they would have the specific word defining them.
They do have a specific word: Faggot!
|by Anonymous||reply 16||January 17, 2022 1:59 AM|
I’d rather envision retired lesbians braining the OP with their canes.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||January 17, 2022 3:10 AM|
I'm a gay woman. I dislike the word lesbian. I don't like being reduced to a single noun. I'm a woman, and I happen to be gay. So I'm a gay woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||January 17, 2022 3:12 AM|
R18- amen girlfriend!
|by Anonymous||reply 19||January 17, 2022 3:14 AM|
No sane person could ever dislike the word "lesbian" after this brilliant defining moment in the history of the word.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||January 17, 2022 3:16 AM|
There is a word for gay men.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||January 17, 2022 3:18 AM|
I agree OP.
There are male Lesbians on an island in Europe after all.
Why not use another word like amazon & be done with any male connection all together?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||January 17, 2022 4:19 AM|
I thought Sappho was a detergent!
|by Anonymous||reply 23||January 17, 2022 7:49 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 24||January 17, 2022 8:08 AM|
Lesbian can also be an adjective, r18
|by Anonymous||reply 25||January 17, 2022 8:25 AM|
Well apparently in UK English, zami and tribade are synonyms for lesbian. Pick one.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||January 17, 2022 8:42 AM|
R4 In many languages, "gay" is used exclusively to refer to men. Homosexual women are always called lesbians. English is kinda an exception to the rule.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||January 17, 2022 9:31 AM|
My women loving friends say they're Lesbyterian.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||January 17, 2022 10:05 AM|
I've already seen more than a few instances of "gay means whatever I choose it to mean" (paraphrased). It's not a safe haven either, it's already in many colonizers' sights.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||January 17, 2022 10:16 AM|
R22 Excuse you?!?!
|by Anonymous||reply 30||January 17, 2022 10:21 AM|
I've said it before on this forum, the word is just ugly. It's offensive to the ears.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||January 17, 2022 10:23 AM|
In my 20s, I thought "lesbian" sounded exotic. At the time, I felt "gay" was reserved more for the men (as we didn't have our own special label akin to "lesbian"). It also seemed weird to refer to a woman as "gay." Now, it seems to be accepted as an umbrella terms to cover both sexes. It doesn't seem as weird to call women "gay". But, I still like the term "lesbian."
|by Anonymous||reply 32||January 17, 2022 10:33 AM|
I refer to lesbians as lizards. When they are cute they are little lizzards (lay-zards).
|by Anonymous||reply 33||January 17, 2022 10:42 AM|
I’ll continue to use LESBIAN and include LESBIANISM in all communication. Thank you.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||January 17, 2022 10:52 AM|
R4 the Brits didn't believe there were Lesbians. Anti-gay laws were written for men.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||January 17, 2022 10:55 AM|
🔥Red Hot Lezzies🔥
|by Anonymous||reply 36||January 17, 2022 10:57 AM|
Lesbian is an ugly word and that's why the modern term is sapphic. You are behind the times, fellas.
Sapphic really does sound better.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||January 17, 2022 11:00 AM|
What wrong wit the word lezbin?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||January 17, 2022 11:01 AM|
Take a national vote of lesbetarians, let the wimmin decide.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||January 17, 2022 11:03 AM|
Lesbian lesbian lesbian
|by Anonymous||reply 40||January 17, 2022 11:05 AM|
Only verified, womon born womyn should decide.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||January 17, 2022 11:11 AM|
[quote] the Brits didn't believe there were Lesbians. Anti-gay laws were written for men.
Straight males are more apt to look down on gay men but consider lesbianism perfectly okay because those gals do the same things to females that they like to do. It just demonstrates how hypocritical (and dumb) straight males can be.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||January 17, 2022 11:15 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 43||January 17, 2022 11:16 AM|
I always used the term lesbic myself.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||January 17, 2022 11:25 AM|
Are you into lesbianism?
|by Anonymous||reply 45||January 17, 2022 11:26 AM|
I know I may be old fashioned but lesbianism has always left a nasty taste in my mouth.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||January 17, 2022 11:28 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 47||January 17, 2022 11:29 AM|
[quote] English is kinda an exception to the rule.
Whose rules you have yet to master.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||January 17, 2022 11:35 AM|
Only AFABs may make the determination of what they want to be called.
Anything else is LITERAL VIOLENCE!!
|by Anonymous||reply 49||January 17, 2022 11:37 AM|
MAN ON THE LAND!
MAN ON THE LAND!!
|by Anonymous||reply 50||January 17, 2022 11:37 AM|
Daughters of Bilitis
|by Anonymous||reply 51||January 17, 2022 12:34 PM|
Just imagine how the residents of Lesbos feel about it all.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||January 17, 2022 12:39 PM|
I’m pretty sure they enjoyed the tourism dollars it brought before the Syrian refugees arrived.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||January 17, 2022 12:44 PM|
I've never known one personally, but isn't Mr. Danny Thomas a lesbian?
|by Anonymous||reply 54||January 17, 2022 12:52 PM|
how about lezzies?
|by Anonymous||reply 55||January 17, 2022 1:11 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 56||January 17, 2022 2:40 PM|
"Straight males are more apt to look down on gay men but consider lesbianism perfectly okay because those gals do the same things to females that they like to do."
Straight males are only "okay" with (pseudo) lesbianism when it's a "hot-girl-on-hot-girl" performance for THEM.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||January 17, 2022 3:04 PM|
I prefer "they're playing tennis"
|by Anonymous||reply 58||January 17, 2022 3:12 PM|
Use "queer" and be done with the ugly L word, gay men's cooption of "gay" and that silly alphabet soup. Problems solved.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||January 17, 2022 7:04 PM|
Leave lesbians alone!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 60||January 17, 2022 7:06 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 61||January 17, 2022 7:09 PM|
[quote] Leave lesbians alone!!!
I never even touched one of them!
|by Anonymous||reply 62||January 17, 2022 8:31 PM|
You have animus against gay women?
|by Anonymous||reply 63||January 17, 2022 8:33 PM|
I like to say, "Lesbianian" from the island of Lesbos. Much more soothing to the ears.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||January 17, 2022 9:00 PM|
R46, when selecting audience members to chat-up, Dame Edna never picked gay guys. They were too clever in their responses. Edna chose husband and wife Seniors to kid around with,
|by Anonymous||reply 65||January 17, 2022 10:31 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 66||January 17, 2022 10:36 PM|
On "Bob Hearts Abishola" last night, relatives referred to their niece's Lesbianity.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||January 18, 2022 9:57 AM|
Having been to Lesbos quite a few time r53, I can safely say that the type of tourism the visiting lesbians are extremely parsimonious and not willing to spend much.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||January 18, 2022 2:40 PM|
The misogynist lesbian hater at r59 who thinks he can erase lesbians with the truly ugly queer - a term the purpose of which is to invalidate same-sex attraction and to subsume lesbians, gay men and bisexuals into the great trans "embrace" - can bog off.
The alphabet soup should definitely be thrown out though. Dump the homophobic T, and let's call ourselves with real words that clearly mean same-sex attraction: lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and variations thereof. We share much but are not the same so I prefer different words for homosexual women and homosexual men, although gay is fine for women too.
I'm happy with the word lesbian and am happy to be a lesbian.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||January 18, 2022 2:47 PM|
Girls with Venetian tendencies. Very soothing to the ears.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||January 18, 2022 2:54 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 71||January 18, 2022 5:56 PM|
I've never liked the word "lesbian" and I never use it to describe myself when telling people face-to-face. I always say I'm gay.
That said, here at DL, where the lines are oh-so-clearly drawn, I say I'm a lesbian whenever I want you gentlemen to know I'm a lesbian. Mostly, you just assume I'm a gay man.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||January 18, 2022 6:18 PM|
Very Competitive Female Athletes
|by Anonymous||reply 73||January 18, 2022 6:30 PM|
A handy gal to know.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||January 18, 2022 6:32 PM|
Takes after her father
|by Anonymous||reply 75||January 18, 2022 6:37 PM|
It’s funny because I know a few different gay women who hate the word and just want to be called gay. And if I recall correctly (I could be wrong), but didn’t Ellen say this as well (that the word lesbian is creepy sounding or something like that)? If not her, it was some white female celebrity.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||January 18, 2022 6:46 PM|
Both men and women should just be "gay."
Then we can get rid of the fake "Queer", and have "Gay Pride" and "Gay Rights" and stop the infiltration of the fake alphabet soup people who are basically str8s trying to take over our own movement......not to mention the "Ts" who have nothing to do with us since as THEY CLAIM, gender identity has nothing to do with sexual orientation...... ergo get the fuck out!
Gay men, Gay women, gay people, Gay Pride, Gay Rights. So easy!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||January 18, 2022 7:05 PM|
How about “beguine”?
|by Anonymous||reply 78||January 18, 2022 8:12 PM|
R72, don’t change on our account. If you’re not comfortable referring to yourself as a lesbian and prefer gay, then by all means say gay, even here. Just add the modifier female so we know we’re not referring to a gay guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||January 18, 2022 9:24 PM|
[quote] with the truly ugly queer - a term the purpose of which is to invalidate same-sex attraction and to subsume lesbians, gay men and bisexuals into the great trans "embrace" - can bog off.
The word queer also suggests there’s something wrong with us for liking the same sex. That’s what I hate about it. There’s nothing wrong with same sex attraction; I’m not ‘queer,’ I’m gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||January 18, 2022 9:27 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 81||January 18, 2022 10:39 PM|
you and all your alter ego accounts have been on a roll here lately defacto. sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||January 18, 2022 10:43 PM|
R82 is a paranoid
|by Anonymous||reply 83||January 18, 2022 11:00 PM|
He sure is. For some reason he has me pegged as defecto.
Guess he doesn’t know how trolldar works.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||January 18, 2022 11:19 PM|
I'll stop calling them lesbians when they stop calling me butt licker.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||January 18, 2022 11:33 PM|
R85,? I’ve never heard that
|by Anonymous||reply 86||January 18, 2022 11:43 PM|
Lesbians lick butt too, r85.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||January 19, 2022 9:03 AM|