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Let’s retire the word lesbian

It sounds like a disease and it erases women-hood. Women who are same sex attracted should refer to themselves as gay women.

by Anonymousreply 87January 19, 2022 9:03 AM

It’s so funny. Sylvia Rivera, who is now being seeing as a trans pioneer, along with Marsha P. Johnson, had a few words about the word lesbian.

The comments are turned off on YouTube. Couldn’t be because Sylvia would have thought todays alphabet soup is stupid.

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by Anonymousreply 1January 16, 2022 5:22 PM


by Anonymousreply 2January 16, 2022 6:16 PM

Lesbian = female same sex attraction. It’s an accurate word that supports the reality of biological sex.

by Anonymousreply 3January 16, 2022 6:25 PM

I never understood why there was a special word for gay females when gay men don't have an equivalent word. Gay men are greater in number and more visible in the gay community, so I would think they would have the specific word defining them.

by Anonymousreply 4January 16, 2022 6:31 PM

Oh do shit up, r4.

by Anonymousreply 5January 16, 2022 6:33 PM

Never heard of Sappho, r5?

by Anonymousreply 6January 16, 2022 6:33 PM

"Cane Ladies" was quite current ten years ago

by Anonymousreply 7January 16, 2022 6:34 PM

Bread Pudding eaters? Crab Walkers?

by Anonymousreply 8January 16, 2022 6:34 PM

I hate the word too. It is an ugly word with ugly connotations.

by Anonymousreply 9January 16, 2022 6:48 PM

Fuck you, OP!

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by Anonymousreply 10January 16, 2022 6:55 PM

R4 Lesbian are called Lesbian because gay men pretty much monopolized the term. The term gay in relation to same sex attraction was associated with men long before it was associated with women. As early as the late 1600s, gay had begun to refer to carefree and amoral pleasure. A “gay house” was a straight brothel, a gay man was a womanizer, and a gay woman was a prostitute. This gave rise to the expression gay boy, which was basically a gay male prostitute and it is from this that gay began to mean same sex attracted men.

Lesbian is a fine term. Women deserve their own language.

by Anonymousreply 11January 16, 2022 6:59 PM

Not even trying anymore


by Anonymousreply 12January 16, 2022 7:01 PM

[quote] Oh do shit up


by Anonymousreply 13January 16, 2022 7:04 PM

Let's retire the word QUEER while we're at it.

by Anonymousreply 14January 16, 2022 7:15 PM


by Anonymousreply 15January 17, 2022 12:44 AM

[quote]...when gay men don't have an equivalent word. Gay men are greater in number and more visible in the gay community, so I would think they would have the specific word defining them.

They do have a specific word: Faggot!

by Anonymousreply 16January 17, 2022 1:59 AM

I’d rather envision retired lesbians braining the OP with their canes.

by Anonymousreply 17January 17, 2022 3:10 AM

I'm a gay woman. I dislike the word lesbian. I don't like being reduced to a single noun. I'm a woman, and I happen to be gay. So I'm a gay woman.

by Anonymousreply 18January 17, 2022 3:12 AM

R18- amen girlfriend!

by Anonymousreply 19January 17, 2022 3:14 AM

No sane person could ever dislike the word "lesbian" after this brilliant defining moment in the history of the word.

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by Anonymousreply 20January 17, 2022 3:16 AM

There is a word for gay men.

by Anonymousreply 21January 17, 2022 3:18 AM

I agree OP.

There are male Lesbians on an island in Europe after all.

Why not use another word like amazon & be done with any male connection all together?

by Anonymousreply 22January 17, 2022 4:19 AM

I thought Sappho was a detergent!

by Anonymousreply 23January 17, 2022 7:49 AM


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by Anonymousreply 24January 17, 2022 8:08 AM

Lesbian can also be an adjective, r18

by Anonymousreply 25January 17, 2022 8:25 AM

Well apparently in UK English, zami and tribade are synonyms for lesbian. Pick one.

by Anonymousreply 26January 17, 2022 8:42 AM

R4 In many languages, "gay" is used exclusively to refer to men. Homosexual women are always called lesbians. English is kinda an exception to the rule.

by Anonymousreply 27January 17, 2022 9:31 AM

My women loving friends say they're Lesbyterian.

by Anonymousreply 28January 17, 2022 10:05 AM

I've already seen more than a few instances of "gay means whatever I choose it to mean" (paraphrased). It's not a safe haven either, it's already in many colonizers' sights.

by Anonymousreply 29January 17, 2022 10:16 AM

R22 Excuse you?!?!

by Anonymousreply 30January 17, 2022 10:21 AM

I've said it before on this forum, the word is just ugly. It's offensive to the ears.

by Anonymousreply 31January 17, 2022 10:23 AM

In my 20s, I thought "lesbian" sounded exotic. At the time, I felt "gay" was reserved more for the men (as we didn't have our own special label akin to "lesbian"). It also seemed weird to refer to a woman as "gay." Now, it seems to be accepted as an umbrella terms to cover both sexes. It doesn't seem as weird to call women "gay". But, I still like the term "lesbian."

by Anonymousreply 32January 17, 2022 10:33 AM

I refer to lesbians as lizards. When they are cute they are little lizzards (lay-zards).

by Anonymousreply 33January 17, 2022 10:42 AM

I’ll continue to use LESBIAN and include LESBIANISM in all communication. Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 34January 17, 2022 10:52 AM

R4 the Brits didn't believe there were Lesbians. Anti-gay laws were written for men.

by Anonymousreply 35January 17, 2022 10:55 AM

🔥Red Hot Lezzies🔥

by Anonymousreply 36January 17, 2022 10:57 AM

Lesbian is an ugly word and that's why the modern term is sapphic. You are behind the times, fellas.

Sapphic really does sound better.

by Anonymousreply 37January 17, 2022 11:00 AM

What wrong wit the word lezbin?

by Anonymousreply 38January 17, 2022 11:01 AM

Take a national vote of lesbetarians, let the wimmin decide.

by Anonymousreply 39January 17, 2022 11:03 AM

Lesbian lesbian lesbian

by Anonymousreply 40January 17, 2022 11:05 AM

Only verified, womon born womyn should decide.

by Anonymousreply 41January 17, 2022 11:11 AM

[quote] the Brits didn't believe there were Lesbians. Anti-gay laws were written for men.

Straight males are more apt to look down on gay men but consider lesbianism perfectly okay because those gals do the same things to females that they like to do. It just demonstrates how hypocritical (and dumb) straight males can be.

by Anonymousreply 42January 17, 2022 11:15 AM


by Anonymousreply 43January 17, 2022 11:16 AM

I always used the term lesbic myself.

by Anonymousreply 44January 17, 2022 11:25 AM

Are you into lesbianism?

by Anonymousreply 45January 17, 2022 11:26 AM

I know I may be old fashioned but lesbianism has always left a nasty taste in my mouth.

by Anonymousreply 46January 17, 2022 11:28 AM


by Anonymousreply 47January 17, 2022 11:29 AM

[quote] English is kinda an exception to the rule.

Whose rules you have yet to master.

by Anonymousreply 48January 17, 2022 11:35 AM

Only AFABs may make the determination of what they want to be called.

Anything else is LITERAL VIOLENCE!!

by Anonymousreply 49January 17, 2022 11:37 AM



by Anonymousreply 50January 17, 2022 11:37 AM

Daughters of Bilitis

by Anonymousreply 51January 17, 2022 12:34 PM

Just imagine how the residents of Lesbos feel about it all.

by Anonymousreply 52January 17, 2022 12:39 PM

I’m pretty sure they enjoyed the tourism dollars it brought before the Syrian refugees arrived.

by Anonymousreply 53January 17, 2022 12:44 PM

I've never known one personally, but isn't Mr. Danny Thomas a lesbian?

by Anonymousreply 54January 17, 2022 12:52 PM

how about lezzies?

by Anonymousreply 55January 17, 2022 1:11 PM

Wesbian, pwease!

by Anonymousreply 56January 17, 2022 2:40 PM

"Straight males are more apt to look down on gay men but consider lesbianism perfectly okay because those gals do the same things to females that they like to do."

Straight males are only "okay" with (pseudo) lesbianism when it's a "hot-girl-on-hot-girl" performance for THEM.

by Anonymousreply 57January 17, 2022 3:04 PM

I prefer "they're playing tennis"

by Anonymousreply 58January 17, 2022 3:12 PM

Use "queer" and be done with the ugly L word, gay men's cooption of "gay" and that silly alphabet soup. Problems solved.

by Anonymousreply 59January 17, 2022 7:04 PM

Leave lesbians alone!!!

by Anonymousreply 60January 17, 2022 7:06 PM


by Anonymousreply 61January 17, 2022 7:09 PM

[quote] Leave lesbians alone!!!

I never even touched one of them!

Trust me.

by Anonymousreply 62January 17, 2022 8:31 PM

You have animus against gay women?

by Anonymousreply 63January 17, 2022 8:33 PM

I like to say, "Lesbianian" from the island of Lesbos. Much more soothing to the ears.

by Anonymousreply 64January 17, 2022 9:00 PM

R46, when selecting audience members to chat-up, Dame Edna never picked gay guys. They were too clever in their responses. Edna chose husband and wife Seniors to kid around with,

by Anonymousreply 65January 17, 2022 10:31 PM

Lady lovers?

by Anonymousreply 66January 17, 2022 10:36 PM

On "Bob Hearts Abishola" last night, relatives referred to their niece's Lesbianity.

by Anonymousreply 67January 18, 2022 9:57 AM

Having been to Lesbos quite a few time r53, I can safely say that the type of tourism the visiting lesbians are extremely parsimonious and not willing to spend much.

by Anonymousreply 68January 18, 2022 2:40 PM

The misogynist lesbian hater at r59 who thinks he can erase lesbians with the truly ugly queer - a term the purpose of which is to invalidate same-sex attraction and to subsume lesbians, gay men and bisexuals into the great trans "embrace" - can bog off.

The alphabet soup should definitely be thrown out though. Dump the homophobic T, and let's call ourselves with real words that clearly mean same-sex attraction: lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and variations thereof. We share much but are not the same so I prefer different words for homosexual women and homosexual men, although gay is fine for women too.

I'm happy with the word lesbian and am happy to be a lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 69January 18, 2022 2:47 PM

Girls with Venetian tendencies. Very soothing to the ears.

by Anonymousreply 70January 18, 2022 2:54 PM

Home Depotbians

by Anonymousreply 71January 18, 2022 5:56 PM

I've never liked the word "lesbian" and I never use it to describe myself when telling people face-to-face. I always say I'm gay.

That said, here at DL, where the lines are oh-so-clearly drawn, I say I'm a lesbian whenever I want you gentlemen to know I'm a lesbian. Mostly, you just assume I'm a gay man.

by Anonymousreply 72January 18, 2022 6:18 PM

Very Competitive Female Athletes

by Anonymousreply 73January 18, 2022 6:30 PM

A handy gal to know.

by Anonymousreply 74January 18, 2022 6:32 PM

Takes after her father

by Anonymousreply 75January 18, 2022 6:37 PM

It’s funny because I know a few different gay women who hate the word and just want to be called gay. And if I recall correctly (I could be wrong), but didn’t Ellen say this as well (that the word lesbian is creepy sounding or something like that)? If not her, it was some white female celebrity.

by Anonymousreply 76January 18, 2022 6:46 PM

Both men and women should just be "gay."

Then we can get rid of the fake "Queer", and have "Gay Pride" and "Gay Rights" and stop the infiltration of the fake alphabet soup people who are basically str8s trying to take over our own movement......not to mention the "Ts" who have nothing to do with us since as THEY CLAIM, gender identity has nothing to do with sexual orientation...... ergo get the fuck out!

Gay men, Gay women, gay people, Gay Pride, Gay Rights. So easy!

by Anonymousreply 77January 18, 2022 7:05 PM

How about “beguine”?

by Anonymousreply 78January 18, 2022 8:12 PM

R72, don’t change on our account. If you’re not comfortable referring to yourself as a lesbian and prefer gay, then by all means say gay, even here. Just add the modifier female so we know we’re not referring to a gay guy.

by Anonymousreply 79January 18, 2022 9:24 PM

[quote] with the truly ugly queer - a term the purpose of which is to invalidate same-sex attraction and to subsume lesbians, gay men and bisexuals into the great trans "embrace" - can bog off.

The word queer also suggests there’s something wrong with us for liking the same sex. That’s what I hate about it. There’s nothing wrong with same sex attraction; I’m not ‘queer,’ I’m gay.

by Anonymousreply 80January 18, 2022 9:27 PM

R77 rocks!!

by Anonymousreply 81January 18, 2022 10:39 PM

you and all your alter ego accounts have been on a roll here lately defacto. sad.

by Anonymousreply 82January 18, 2022 10:43 PM

R82 is a paranoid

by Anonymousreply 83January 18, 2022 11:00 PM

He sure is. For some reason he has me pegged as defecto.

Guess he doesn’t know how trolldar works.

by Anonymousreply 84January 18, 2022 11:19 PM

I'll stop calling them lesbians when they stop calling me butt licker.

by Anonymousreply 85January 18, 2022 11:33 PM

R85,? I’ve never heard that

by Anonymousreply 86January 18, 2022 11:43 PM

Lesbians lick butt too, r85.

by Anonymousreply 87January 19, 2022 9:03 AM
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