I'm convinced I'm the only top in LA

That's so sad, you should kill yourself.

You're gonna be very popular.

Where you at? ;)

I find total bottoms kinda icky. If you can't get behind an ass and enthusiastically pump, you must be transgender.

Montreal is full of tops.

Are you wanting to dp? I don’t see how this would be a problem unless you’re not a top.

get off the DL you lazy ho

you got werq to do

Nah you're not the only one lol. There seems to be more bottoms than tops in LA however there's a high amount of verse guys too, so idk if you're adding them into the mix.

R8 No one adds them to the mix because most bottoms don’t add them to the mix. Most bottoms only want a total top.

R9 wasn't there some group of people who weren't allowed to be choosers?

R9 Lol I always separate tops, bottoms, verse tops, verse bottoms. However you've got a point when it comes to total bottoms I hardly ever see any that like verse guys. Verse guys are usually considered as bottoms in the same manner that bisexuals are treated like they're gay by most.

I agree about total bottoms. It's actually a prejudice I have. I didn't used to and I am grossly over generalising but I just don't get it. Bottoms will say but it's just what we like, but, really it's psychological, correct? It's role playing almost? Yes it feels good, but why don't you want to give that pleasure to another if you like it so much?

Also OP which type of bottoms are you encountering? Do you prefer masculine bottoms however you're constantly running into feminine guys?

If you're a vers or vers top guy, and some bottom tries to tell you what you can and can't do with other guys, is there something stopping you just laughing at him and pushing his face into the pillow?

I LOVE total bottoms.

Who the fuck cares why.

R12 One response I've heard numerous times is "If I wanted to stick my dick in someone, I'd just fuck a female." I've also had guys tell me that they felt like they were being "forced to top" guys after being with guys who appeared to be tops, only to bend over backwards or lay on their stomachs behind closed doors. For bottoms, having a "strict top" is ideal psychologically it's the closest they feel they can get to having a "straight guy" (even though these days, a lot of straight men are experimenting with ass play)

[quote]I'm convinced I'm the only top in LA

Yes, OP, you're one of a kind. You're special and [italic]important[/italic].

If you were the only cock in the henhouse you wouldn't be wasting time bragging on DL.

R16, I mean, *that* is a thing if they/re genuinely bi. They fuck women, and for what women can't give them, they come to men.

The one I find most interesting though is the 'I fuck younger and smaller guys, and get fucked by older and bigger guys'. Like it's some kind of food chain.

R14 Lol nope. More than likely the bottom will leave though lol in search of a total top. It seems there's a shortage of single tops/straight men in comparison to single bottoms/straight females in quite a few big cities, so there has to be plenty of sharing (even inadvertently) going on.

I know someone (a top in LA) who didn't check his Jack'd messages for a few days, a couple months ago. When he looked at them, he had literally over a hundred bottoms in his inbox.

OP didn’t you know? LA stands for LAzy bottoms.

R16 This is why I do not date total bottoms. They are gross, needy, and psychologically damaged.

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Ahh thank you explaining about that a total top is like a straight guy. That makes sense. Quite immature that though isn't it?

R19 Right except some of them weren't genuinely bi guys that were saying that lol they were bottoms who found the idea of "topping" repulsive. And right some ppl do have hangups or preferences in regards to who they'll fuck and who can fuck them lol. Pure psychological in the form of who can dominate them, who they want to dominate.

And I thought DC was bottom central...

[quote] More than likely the bottom will leave though lol in search of a total top.

OK, if he absolutely insists, he can spend the next seven hours scrolling Grindr hoping for another top to replace the one he turned down for no reason. Whereas the vers top guy can just move right along to the next bottom, it won't be hard to find one that's lower maintenance, less psychologically warped, and better in bed.

OP, you are not the only top in LA, you're just a delusional top in LA.

R22 Lol that's the same description given to lots of females

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R19 This sentiment I agree with. I like to both fuck and be fucked, but they are very different experiences. For one, I am thin and as such don’t like fucking guys too large. I am not able to move them around. Chubby guys are okay IF they are short. I am 6 ft and try not to fuck anyone taller than 5’10.

As for being fucked, I only like to get fucked if the guy is older than me or bigger than me. Fucking an old ass just isn’t appealing. Saggy, used and skin tagged. But getting fucked by an older daddy is hot. Feels nice and degrading.

R23 Interesting. I've met guys who were initially bottoms or tops however "the right one" or "ones" introduced them to being versatile.

R24 YW. You can say that lol although you know how it is when ppl are fixated on certain types. Nothing less will do in their eyes for being with a verse guy or "dyking" with other bottoms is equivalent to settling.

R23 I forgot to mention that mostly every top I've ever known is or was bisexual (most had children)

What R32 said. I've be total top, total bottom and vers in different relationships. Depends on chemistry with the other guy.

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R30 IA. I've known some who treated "their bottoms" the same way straight guys treat women, and if they were bi they pretty much looked at them all the same. Bottom-shaming is actually quite common from tops, straight men, women, and even other bottoms, like being a strict bottom is the worse thing you can be on the planet.

It helps if you use your common sense and realise that in both cases you are having sex with a man, so both partners (at least in that moment) are as gay as each other.

It also helps if you avoid the temptation to declare one sexual role to be something only real men do, and the other to be something only nasty little fag bitches do. Then assign one or other role to yourself for the rest of time depending on whether it gets you off to think of yourself as a real man or a nasty little fag bitch.

Sex is much less complicated and mating rituals less awkward and time-consuming once all this cumbersome stuff is cleared away out of your mind.

R37 Bottom Shaming is only a thing because most total bottoms are shameless. Total bottoms shame other bottoms left and right. They refuse to have sex with anyone who isn’t a total top. And yet they accuse other people of shaming them.

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R40, I do love me a versatile guy who's happy and open about loving both roles equally. They are the hottest guys in porn too. I'm trying to become a bit more vers myself, though I'll probably always be a top first.

R36 Good points. I'm not disagreeing I'm just saying that different ppl have different reasons for what they do. Some guys I've talked to never tried to bottom, or if they did, they said it was too painful, uncomfortable, etc. OTOH, some guys I've spoken with who are bottoms said they never tried to top and if they did, they simply didn't like it. Your reasons for why they choose not to be versatile have validity I'm just offering other possible explanations, based off of conversations I've had.

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R39 Similarly to how women shame other women. I've seen it quite often, which i always found weird.

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R27 Well true lol single tops/verse tops do have more options to choose from.

I failed as a bottom and as a top, so at least you have one.

R43 Besides being bullied, what are some of the other reasons you've heard, and did you call bullshit lol

I remember a guy I barely knew saying that most gay men start off as bottoms, only to either remain there or venture off. He's now a she who tops (which I've learned is common in the trans community; guys who let transsexuals top them wouldn't dare let a guy do it)

"Montreal is full of tops. "

Mais oui?

Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?"

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R45 True. I know of some straight guys, bi and tops who've told me they like to get their asses ate (which of course can lead to fingering, dildos; they all pretty much had the same reaction to going that far, like "hold on" lol however they could've just felt that wasn't for me to know))

OP, it's a shame you didn't have this realization when you were still at a fuckable age.

I fly to Cairo when I need a good top.

I'm not a bottom, I'm a lazy top

With the person here about bisexual and tops, I had a long term boyfriend who was bisexual and 99% bottom

This is so interesting. In my hook-up clubbing days never once was who is topping or bottoming ever brought up. In bed my trick and I explored and enjoyed. And it was always versatile. Only on DL have I heard bottom/topping protocols. And bottom shaming is not cool no matter where it comes from.

R50 IA. No need for screenshots lol I know exactly what you're talking about.

@r56, This...

I remember taking a lot of turns and just having all sorts of interesting sex. "Top/bottom" never came up

R55 99%? Lol what about the other 1% of the time, is that when he topped?

R56, R58, may I ask roughly the time frame of your hookups? I remember the whole top/bottom thing being around for awhile

This was in the 90' meeting guys in clubs or in public.

R55 Yeah some of these posters are very off base. Some bi guys are bottoms because if they want to fuck they fuck women.

The above poster lives in a different world to the rest of us. She's evolved.

We were just waiting for the versatile trolls to come to the thread to tell us they have never heard of top/bottom as it never came up in any sex encounter. Thanks for being consistent versatile trolls.

There is so much bullshit on this thread. Total bottoms are not trannies just bottoms.

You are all projecting and you project mental illness,on your part. The bottoms are fine.

We were just waiting for the versatile trolls to come to the thread to tell us they have never heard of top/bottom as it never came up in any sex encounter. Thanks for being consistent versatile trolls.

There is so much bullshit on this thread. Total bottoms are not trannies just bottoms.

You are all projecting and you project mental illness,on your part. The bottoms are fine.

I think a Top complaining about being the only Top is indicative of a secret desire to be penetrated and frustration about finding a man to do that to him.

Related... in the old days received wisdom was that there were many more tops in LA than in SF.

Can’t you come to my home in Illinois??

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I went to a gay convention in San Francisco. Outside it, I met a friend who lived there. He asked me, “Are you registered?” When I asked for what, he answered, “Well, there are only six registered tops in San Francisco, and the waiting list is six months’ long. So all the visiting tops have to register, to help take up the slack.”

I believed him.

R68 I get your point. What's funny is that some men who have sex with transsexuals don't consider themselves bi, like it would be a complete mind fuck to label themselves anything other than straight. They also feel that as long as it's a female or a transsexual who's penetrating them that gives them some wiggle room to still claim straight since its not a guy doing it. Straight men who are into ass play without ever being with transsexuals typically just consider themselves freaks lol

R68 Has never met a Bi person.

OP Move to NYC they could use you there as well and you could use them any way you want!

OP do you travel to any other western states? Can I book your services?

Will I have to register as a bottom?

Op, you are wrong. It's only a matter of time before you will be a Vers. It only takes one hot guy to flip you and there is no returning back.

Mark my words: America has no strict total tops. A lot of fake tops and those who are waiting for someone special to take their ass virginity.

My grinder is forever located in Asia, South America, Europe, Middle East. I travel a lot. You can find some strict tops there. Even men whores charge higher for their "culo".

Pathetic

I have an average 6 inch cut dick and it's not big enough for the bottom size queens in LA.

"The Only Top In L.A." sounds like the title of a 90s independent gay movie.

Mark my words R75 is full of shit.

Psycho-sexually, most total bottoms are females in their psyche. They can only think of their assholes as being literal vaginas. Their penes are only considered to be the most useless appendage.

^ Is the last sentence a direct quote from some early 20th century book? Lol.

I can vouch for R5's statement.

I don't like when a potential sex partner lays down face up as if he's entitled to my dick.

If I'm to be fucked, that's not licence to slap, choke, spit, piss(!) anywhere you think; you'll get a punch in the throat.

R.E.S.P.E.C.T

Pics or it didn't fappen

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R84's ass cunt is sore about the truth. Bottoms are females in most ways and their penes are useless/worthless.

R86 hey, where have you been all this time, I thought you caught Covid or something.