Janet Jackson Was Fit as Fuck!

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I'm not Janbot, or even a big Janet Jakcson fan, but I love this song and video. Completely underrated, in terms of dance/pop songs as far as I'm concerned.

"fit as fuck" huh? You still want to be 18 so bad.

It was filmed at the Biltmore Hotel in DTLA. Britney, ever the Janet copycat, would later film her Overprotected video in the same hotel.

Oh my sides!

^Your sides? Do some crunches so that your love handles will go away.

R4 Interesting! I googled the hotel and looking thru photos realized their pool was ALSO used in Cruel Intentions.

It’s a beautiful hotel. The Janet video is amazing. I wish Carly had taken part in it.

Nowadays Missy Elliott lost the weight, while Janet is morbidly obese.

Morbidly obese? I think not.

Isn't Missy a carpet muncher?

i remember talking to a vfx person who discussed having to digitally remove 2 inches off each of Janet's hips for some music video.

she looks like the black teletubby here

Janet does look super hot here. Missy, not so much.

Missy was sexually assaulted all throughout her childhood. Leave her alone.

WAS is the operative word. For a brief monent.

When Janet wants to get snatched, she gets snatched. I’m still in awe at her body during this peek of the backstage quick change during the All For You tour.

Missy essentially retired from music a while back, apparently she had a ton of health problems that led to her shedding all her weight.

I love that Janbot has polluted DL so much that anyone giving Janet Jackson even a vague compliment feels the need to say ‘I’m not Janbot but…’. What a legacy.

[quote]I wish Carly had taken part in it.

Carly was *not* happy when P Diddy removed her--FROM HER OWN SONG--and brought in Missy Elliot for the remix. She used very unfortunate language.

The song still bombed.

Janet is fine and I like her overall, but I thought this song was terrible.

Mostly because she had a great song in Got Til It's Gone and it just felt like someone in her crew said, "Well, since you did Joni Mitchell, let's rip off a Carly Simon song next."

All For You was the album where I lost my interest in Janet's music - instead of being at least somewhat of an innovator, or at least a leader in the field, she began to chase the sounds of a younger audience or imitated younger artists. No thanks.

R20, are you friends with Carly? How would you know that? I liked her video inclusion during SOAG on the All For You tour.

I always thought this song was horrible, no wonder it bombed. At the time, it was Janet's lowest charting single since her pre-Control days.

The video is amazing. Francis Lawrence’s direction and the cinematography are on point.

It's derivative and repetitive. Nothing is on point or on fleek.

[quote] Isn't Missy a carpet muncher?

Yes. And from the looks of her, Janet munches everything else.

R21: agree. I was/am a big Janet fan and had high expectations for the album after All For You, the single, came out. Much as Velvet Rope was critically acclaimed etc, I was excited to have fun, dance Janet back. The album is mainly filler though, especially in the middle where there’s 4-5 of her slow/sex songs.

We were all mad at Janet when she fed us with Baja Fresh cards for three months. The least she could have done was let us get fresh milk from her.

Janet contacted Carly to ask about using the sample.

Carly was so excited about the project, she re-recorded the sample so Janet didn't have to pay the original label. And then she recorded extra vocals for Janet to use.

Janet used all of that in the original song. And Carly was very excited about being involved in a possible hit.

But when P Diddy got involved, he got rid of all of Carly's vocals (except the famous re-recorded sample) and replaced her with Missy Elliot.

Needless to say, Carly was not pleased.

But it didn't matter. Whereas "You're So Vain" was a great song and a hit, "Son of a Gun" was neither.

Maybe a song that starts off with "ha ha hew hew" isn't Gershwin.

[quote] It's derivative and repetitive. Nothing is on point or on fleek.

Bitch, ‘bye. You keep trying.

[quote] Needless to say, Carly was not pleased.

You keep saying this but have provided not one receipt. And, until you can do so, kindly shut the fuck up.

[quote]All For You was the album where I lost my interest in Janet's music - instead of being at least somewhat of an innovator, or at least a leader in the field, she began to chase the sounds of a younger audience or imitated younger artists. No thanks.

r21 I really didn't care for this song either (in this video remixed version), but All For You was an outstanding album still, probably Janet's most underrated album. The production by Jam and Lewis was EXQUISITE, like the best in the Y2K era. So slick, beautiful and futuristic.

I do remember Puffy being in a snit because Janet had never worked with him, saying something along the lines of “She must not want the hits” or something like that. Back then, he was the producer of the day, and had worked with a ton of artists. At the time, I kept thinking who the hell does he think he is? Not everybody wants that Bad Boy sound in their work. She finally relented and enlisted him for the SOAG remix. It’s not as good as the video version, and the video version is not as good as the album version, which is just Janet and Carly. Carly’s lyrics about various clouds and such are quirky and fun, and it’s cool hearing her do her middle-aged white lady rapping.

[quote]You keep saying this but have provided not one receipt. And, until you can do so, kindly shut the fuck up.

My, my, so controlling.

I don't need to prove anything to you. Run along and pester someone else with your nonsense.

[quote] All For You was an outstanding album

It is. One of my favorite cuts is China Love, a track about a woman who had a past life love affair. I always pictured a big budget video shot on location in the Orient with somebody like Russell Wong as her leading man.

[quote] I don't need to prove anything to you.

Because you can’t. ‘Bye, pumpkin!

[quote]Carly’s lyrics about various clouds and such are quirky and fun, and it’s cool hearing her do her middle-aged white lady rapping.

Carly's old lady rapping was beyond embarrassing.

R36 is very close to celebrities. She reads People.

I found out what nimbus and stratus clouds were thanks to this song.

I didn't like it either, the whole album is reductive and uses too many samples. This was the last Janet cd I ever bought and I listened to it maybe 4 times. She is forever tarnished like her brother to me now. I won't listen to either of them anymore.

Tarnished by what r40, Nipplegate?

How is she tarnished like Michael? I’m not seeing the correlation.

R40 yr a fucking idiot.

When this flopped, you knew Janet's days were numbered.

When she desperately showed her titty at the SB, she sealed her fate and accelerated the decline.

She was already on a downward trajectory at the Super Bowl.

[quote] She is forever tarnished like her brother to me now.

A few things, R44…

Janet’s days were not numbered just because SOAG did not chart as well as her previous singles. 9/11 had just happened, and Virgin dropped the promo ball with it. Janet wanted to release the uptempo Come On Get Up instead, and there had been a video shoot planned, but SOAG was chosen instead.

Suffice it to say, she went on to draw big ratings when HBO aired her final stop of the All For You tour in Hawaii, and the album itself gave her her biggest first week sales ever and netted her another Grammy. They don’t ask people who are on a downward trajectory to headline the Super Bowl halftime show, but you knew this.

And, lastly, go kick rocks.

[quote]And, lastly, go kick rocks.

Language!

Whoever started this thread hates Janet and is just trying to bait someone into responding "Janet is Fat as Fuck!" Shame on you.

The Queen covers the Feb edition of Allure magazine.

Hiding her weight with big puffy clothes.

She's slaying. Go Jan!

Jan stans spotted

Jabba is here. I recognize the stench.

Iconic, as usual.

Missy is another who got pumped and dumped by Madonna. Once people collab with her, their output is never the same.

Missy has a "comeback" every three years or so where she releases songs talking about how she's "the best" and so on, but they never do well.

Did Missy scissor Aaliyah?

i meant she was tarnished by her undying support for her pedo brother

or guilty by association

R57, get over it.

R40: I find the whole ‘I won’t listen to their songs anymore’ self-righteous stuff bizarre. If you liked Michael Jackson’s music before any paedophile allegations why deprive yourself of still listening now? The fact he’s dead too. It’s not like he can benefit from the $0.00001 he’d make from your annual streaming activity. And to associate Janet’s music with that too. Fair enough if you just don’t enjoy their music anymore but don’t dress it up as something morally superior to people who do listen to them.

And where do you draw the line? Do enough research and you’ll find dodgy stories about lots of singers/groups. And Michael was never legally convicted. So let’s say your top 10 artists all get accused of rape/molesting kids/whatever you deem over the line for you to keep listening to them in the next year, you’re not going to listen to any of them ever again?

[quote] Janet Jackson Was Fit as Fuck!

[quote]Janet Jackson Was Fit as Fuck!

Bey, you are a total copycat, so have several.

Have several. That's Janet's motto.

All For You was good but it was very bubblegum and felt lacking compared to janet and The Velvet Rope which were heavy in social commentary. AFY was a start over for her given her personal life and meant to be this declaration of her sexual autonomy. Britney copied a lot of the sound and vibe off this album I noticed for her third album which was released later in the same year. Brit really never gets called out for being a Janet clone.

Now I have to ask wasn't this a single and Come On, Get Up? (apparently not release in The US). Son of A Gun was not radio-friendly and a poor choice. I feel Virgin chose to wrong singles for this album and secretly wanted to sabotage her.

Janet wanted COGU to be released but Virgin chose SOAG.

Her episode of Will and Grace ("Back Up, Dancer") is on as I type.

a lot of people wanted to sabotage her, including the CEO of CBS-TV.

Yes, everybody wanted to sabotage Janet. It was a conspiracy!!!

Funny, everyone wanted to sabotage her but no one wanted to buy her albums.

Her 2000s discography was so uneven. Jermaine Dupri did more to damage her music career than the Super Bowl aftermath. The blacklisting lasted a few years but her albums were not up to par when it was lifted and MTV started playing her videos again. Taking that long break after Discipline to focus on acting in movies didn't help. Then she semi-retired and got married to a Muslim prince and waited until 2015 for another album.

r8, she is on the album version of the song

^Right, but I wish she was in the video too.

Nobody wants to buy Janet's albums anymore. It's laughable when all these people tweet about Janet and "Justice for Janet" but will they buy her music??

Crickets.

Janet's weight is always up and down, mostly up.

^And you’re mostly a liar.

Nobody buys albums in general especially pop and rap fans who like Spotify and illegal downloads. That's why mainstream music has gotten so terrible. Country and rock fans actually support their artists through buying albums.

Jabba, we're talking about 20 years ago. You think you'd understand that since it's your forte.

I agree R77. Kids today don't buy hardcopies of music the way we did. Janet got her hits and sales when you had to physically go out and purchase the music. And yet, with Unbreakable (another #1), she was still able to outsell HAGdonna's heavily-marketed Rebel Fart in the US with little promotion.

Control really aged well in my opinion. It's sleek, minimalistic and it sounded unique. I don't get the comparisons to Madonna or Michael Jackson because her music sounds nothing like either and no she was not as big as either of them either. She had her own lane and was successful in her own right. Control to The Velvet Rope was a strong 4-album run. By the early 2000s, she ran out of ideas and got stuck on the older, sexually independent single woman route and ditching Jam and Lewis for Dupri was beyond dumb.

Can’t wait for the documentary.

were it not for her surname, she'd be axing "do you want fries wid dat?" 12 times daily.

R79 and Madonna last had a #1 album with her last album , Madame X, in 2019 in the US, becoming the second oldest woman in history to do that after Barbra Streisand

You were saying?

Queen

R77 exactly right no one buying albums but her streams should be A LOT better and I’m a Janet fan

If Madonna’s last two albums can have 250 million streams on Spotify for Rebel Heart (2015) and almost 200 million for Madame X (2019) surely Janet could get at least 100 million streams on Spotify from her last album in 2015, which was actually pretty good

Why is Madonna being brought up? I'm so sick of this feud. Listen to the artist you like and stop caring sales and streams.

R86 because Janbot brought her up earlier in this thread, because he talks about Madonna more than Janet

Olympic ice skater Madison Hubbell speaking about Janet's empowerment for females.

Indeed. Slut-hog. Ms WhisperCoo looked pretty good.

I love the biltmore hotel. I've stayed there a few times

I always felt sorry for the poor guy who is chased in the video

That walk though...

The walk was amazing...

WALK!

Yes!