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Actors who never darkened the door of the Actors Studio

For actors who studied with Lee, Stella, or Sandy, who’ve done a zillion repetition exercises and a million song and dances, and 6 trillion sense memories, private moments, and all the other cockamamie voodoo designed to get into your inner life, here’s a starters list of actors who simply HAD IT and just DID IT, and never went through the method route, standing in front of their classmates looking like a fucking idiot.

George C. Scott, Christopher Plummer, Michael Redgrave, Alec Guinness, Peter O’Toole, Spencer Tracy, Laurence Olivier, Coleen Dewhurst, Vanessa Redgrave, Barbara Stanwyck, Ralph Richardson, Anna Magnani, Paul Scofield, Trevor Howard, Dirk Bogarde, John Mills, Jason Robards, Helen Mirren, Marlon Brando ( no, he wasn’t trained at the Actors Studio and hated Lee), Gene Hackman, James Cagney, Anthony Hopkins, Ian Holm, Nicol Williamson, …..care to continue?……

by Anonymousreply 23January 17, 2022 12:21 PM

Angie Dickinson, Ilene Graf, Joanna Kerns, Alley Mills, Lacey Chabert, Caren Kaye, Matt Lattanzi, Lauren Tewes, Kim Fields, Shanna Reed, Cathy Silvers, Donny Most, Danny Ponce, Josie Bisset, Ben Savage, Vicki Laurence, Beverly Garland, Shelley Hack

by Anonymousreply 1January 9, 2022 12:54 AM

You forgot Rex Harrison

by Anonymousreply 2January 9, 2022 1:10 AM

Many excellent actors attended HB Studio and still do.

by Anonymousreply 3January 9, 2022 1:21 AM

Denise Richards

by Anonymousreply 4January 9, 2022 1:23 AM

Suzanne Sommers

Morgan Fairchild

Susan Dey

Zac Efron

Howard Stern

Ron Jeremy

Conor Maguire

Chaz Bono

Jazz Jennings

by Anonymousreply 5January 9, 2022 1:33 AM

I’m an actor and recently did a workshop with an actress who went on and on about how she studied at RADA and just moved to nyc and had meetings set up with several managers. Great for her. But she was dreadful in the workshop. Too much thinking and analyzing everything to death. She was so lost and had no idea what she was doing. You want to be an actor then audition for everything and get as much experience as you can. You’ll find out very quickly if you’re good or if you suck. I don’t think acting can be taught. If the talent is there you can take classes and nurture it but no one can teach you.

by Anonymousreply 6January 9, 2022 1:43 AM

Rex Harrison isn't no-maj, he's all-maj

by Anonymousreply 7January 9, 2022 2:15 AM

Underrated Ben Mendelson

by Anonymousreply 8January 9, 2022 2:45 AM

Marlon was Stella’s student. Stella positioned herself as the only, true heir to Stanislavsky.

by Anonymousreply 9January 9, 2022 3:05 AM

It is fun to romanticise actors and say they "just had it" or "just did it."

But in fact, everyone on your list either had formal training somewhere other than the actor's studio, or an apprenticeship where they learned how to act.

Off the top of my head, Brando. Hackman, and Robards had formal training (with Stella Adler, Pasadena Playhouse, and American Academy of the Dramatic Arts)., Even though the Brits tend to go the apprenticeship route, Miren, Hopkins, and Holm had formal acting training.

Those are the ones I know off the top of my head.

by Anonymousreply 10January 9, 2022 3:48 AM

Self taught Cheryl Ladd

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by Anonymousreply 11January 9, 2022 3:58 AM

Yes, all actors have some kind of formal training, whether in an actual school or on-the-job training, but most of the English actors mentioned were drilled in speech, voice, and verse speaking. I doubt RADA or Central School students, trained in the 50s, ever did Strasberg's song and dance exercise - one of the greatest acting exercises ever devised. But then you marvel at Geo C. Scott who never had any formal acting training at all. I recall hearing about great voice and speech teachers from 20s,30s, 40s, 50s, like Elsie Fogerty, Clifford Turner, Cecily Berry, but not influential acting teachers like the Americans

by Anonymousreply 12January 9, 2022 4:25 AM

Shelley Duvall - she went to the Robert Altman/Stanley Kubrick schools of acting.

by Anonymousreply 13January 10, 2022 1:08 PM

Marlon Brando did indeed take classes at The Actors Studio, under the auspices of Robert Lewis, Cheryl Crawford, and Elia Kazan. Strasberg took over as artistic director in 1951, when Brando was already making films in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 14January 10, 2022 1:31 PM

Yeah, I forgot Lee Stressburg came into theStudio in '51. You are right, reply 14

by Anonymousreply 15January 10, 2022 3:00 PM

Is that why Shelley Duvall is brain dead today?

by Anonymousreply 16January 10, 2022 3:01 PM

[quote]Shelley Duvall - she went to the Robert Altman/Stanley Kubrick schools of acting.

Is that where they beat it out of her?

by Anonymousreply 17January 10, 2022 3:19 PM

Altman treated Shelley Duvall really well. Kubrick of course is another story.

by Anonymousreply 18January 11, 2022 5:08 AM

Given your convoluted post with a bunch of names and no direct references it is impossible to decipher your point, OP. Are the names you put forth "The Good Guys" or the "Underdogs"?

by Anonymousreply 19January 11, 2022 5:11 AM

Marlon Brando was with the Actors Studio, genius OP. Just not under Strasberg - he worshiped Stella Adler. And of course many of the rest of the people you list weren't at the Actors Studio because they weren't Americans, and the Americans on your list had training that couldn't have been radically different from the Actors Studio.

That being said, I don't get the hard-on for British actors on here. The American or other European (French, Italian) counterparts of the same era have always been better to me save Peter O'Toole and Vanessa Redgrave.

by Anonymousreply 20January 11, 2022 5:18 AM

Where did Pia Zadora study?

by Anonymousreply 21January 17, 2022 11:58 AM

OP, I've never heard of any of the actors you mention. Have they done any work on the legitimate stage?

by Anonymousreply 22January 17, 2022 12:10 PM

Marilyn Chambers

by Anonymousreply 23January 17, 2022 12:21 PM
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