I wanna see Chris Evans try and recreate this Gene Kelly iconic dance…

This the fifth thread on this topic, mein Fuhrer.

Who’s going to play Barbra Streisand in the Hello Dolly segment? Will there be a scene where Mae West confronts Gene about Babs stealing her character?

OP? ENOUGH

FF/BLOCKED

Gene Kelly was short and not beautiful.

Who will play Debbie Reynolds? Will they show Gene making her cry all the time because she couldn’t keep up with him?

I want to see Chris Evans post about how you are going to fail miserably at your next assignment at work before you have even started. He is playing a celebrity not Muhammad. Even if he fails the world will go on. Gene Kelly not so much.

Gene Kelly was not just a “celebrity”. He’s not playing a Kardashian. He’s playing a legendary actor and massive talent.

It’s like casting Chrissy Metz and Marilyn.

Yes, it is exactly like that you histrionic star fucker.

Chrissy Metz AS* Marilyn.

Evans is no Kelly.

NOT HOT?!!! Look at him in those shorts. Woof! Sexy

Gorgeous thighs and ass on that man.

Evans was surprisingly good in Knives Out and he might be so here. He's likable enough, seems to keep out of trouble/jackassery and has a gorgeous body.

I'll wait until I see what's on the screen to judge.

I think Channing Tatum would have been my pick based solely on his number in "Hail Caesar!" but I'm not the casting director, so whatever.

Tatum looks even less like Kelly, but at least he’s an actual trained dancer.

[quote] Gene Kelly was short and not beautiful.

He may not have been classically beautiful but he was sex on a stick. I dare one of you to say you’d turn this down if he propositioned you on a Saturday night.

I wanna see Chris Evans try and recreate this Gene Kelly iconic dance with a banana in his ass.

Is that not what we were doing in this thread?

He was hot. He was a MAN/BRO type hot. He was very masculine. Him and Fred Astaire were both the biggest dancing actors at the time but their styles were so different. Kelly was more masculine with his movements and used sexuality a lot.

Astaire was more pristine and classical with a more pretty movement.

Gene Kelly was a massive talent but it seems that off-screen he wasn't very interesting.

I’m sure Chris will get all the training, support and movie magic he needs to sell his Kelly to the majority of the audience who have only seen Kelly in clips at the Oscars. Kelly stans will either be dead or boycott out of pure stubbornness. No point in letting their small minds limit interesting projects in Hollywood where anything that is not from a comic book or a sequel should be welcomed.

He was very interesting! A lifelong liberal Democrat who was supportive of integration before it happened and outspoken about black rights back in the 50s and on? I’m shocked they didn’t blacklist him!

He was too big a name.

R17 a few months of training can’t get you to pull off those dances

Much bigger than that Chaplin guy they ran out of town.

My feeling is that if they have any sense they'll let actual footage of Kelly stand in for the dance scenes. Evans is playing the man off-screen, as it were. Unless Kelly danced his way through breakfast, lunch and dinner.

I don't want to see Chris Evans. He's at the bottom of the list of the Chrises.

Dance and sports were a huge part of his life. He trained his whole life. Dance needs to be in the movie. He didn’t just dance on film, he danced on film because he was trained and knew how to dance since childhood.

He was also very Political, and on the wrong side of things back then when everything was very conservative.

No one is going to make you.

Many in Hollywood were big supporters of FDR and labor unions in the 1930s and 940s. Many were communist sympathizers and would be considered socialists today. Hollywood didn’t become right wing until the McCarthy era of the 1950s. Gene Kelly was not affected but his wife at the time who was a communist sympathizer was. I think she left the marriage and the country to avoid further persecution.I’m guessing the film will deal with that part of his life.

Gene Kelly was very interesting in his day to day life, and also very insecure with his acting abilities when it came to films. He said once-

“I would have loved to have been as good an actor as Spencer Tracy or Marlon Brando. I was a very good stage actor, but in films, I never was quite as good, just passable. My main fault is I still act as if I were on the stage. I’m still too broad in gestures and facial expressions. Same with the voice. I hit the back row in a close-up, keep forgetting there’s a microphone that catches every whisper.”

He felt his acting was too Broadway for films so he never watched his own films.

Off set, Kelly could be insecure, temperamental, and competitive. He had relationships with younger women, and his paternalistic streak reportedly made him a loving but overbearing partner. According to Hollywood lore, a number of his personal and professional relationships fell apart due to his relentless drive.

Her name was Betsy Blair and she played the “unattractive” female lead in Marty.

Not sure about the dancing (although I believe Evans has spoken about some type of training in the past), but Kelly was extraordinarily charming, and I find Evans equally so. I think he will pull it off.

Like Kelly said

“If Fred Astaire is the Cary Grant of dance, I'm the Marlon Brando.”

And that’s the truth. They were always placed against each other, as rivals, and compared, but they were very different.

Years ago I read a biography about him. There's not much info about his personal life out there. Not much of a story there.

Yes, we know about his temperament and he was a workaholic and so forth, but if you're looking for juicy gossip forget it. No drinking, no womanizing, no bad habits. And when the musicals came to an end, his career was nothing spectacular. At least Astaire was able to star in two big films in the 1960s and be paired with a contemporary performer. And his TV specials were events.

Even "Hello Dolly" the stories are about Barbra's behavior and Walter Matthau but nothing about GK.

You could tell he was sick of being compared to Astaire, and vice versa. But Kelly always complimented Astaire, whereas Astaire always came off smug when Kelly came up.

“Fred Astaire represented the aristocracy, I represented the proletariat.”

“I work bigger. Fred's style is more intimate. I'm very jealous of that when I see him on the small screen. Fred looks so great on TV. I'd love to put on a white tie and tails and look as thin as him and glide as smoothly. But I'm built like a blocking tackle.”

Kelly was still more popular by name than Astaire even without the big hits. And Kelly is far more remembered today than Astaire.

More quotes about Astaire

[on his supposed rivalry with Fred Astaire ] If we had any resentment, it was not with each other but with the journalists who talked about two highly individual dancers as if they were one person. For instance, the sort of wardrobe I wore--blue jeans, sweatshirt, sneakers--Fred would never have been caught dead in. He was always immaculate at rehearsals, while I was always in an old shirt. Fred's steps were small, neat, graceful and intimate where mine were ballet-oriented and athletic. But we were never rivals.

The fact is that [Fred Astaire] and myself were in no way similar, nor even the best male dancers around. There were ballet dancers vastly superior to both of us, but they of course never reached our mass audiences, so Fred and I got the cream of the publicity and naturally we were compared.

I doubt this will ever get made.

R32 No you are wrong about that.

Look, I'm a huge GK fan. I prefer his movies and style over Astaire but Fred Astaire is iconic in a way Gene Kelly is not.

Gene Kelly's reputation is about as spotless as any figure of his era. He had none of the uncomfortable allegations that plagued Bing Crosby, nor the supposed mob connections of Frank Sinatra. By contrast to many of his peers, Kelly embodied postwar American optimism. He's remembered as a phenomenal singer, dancer, and an all-around stand-up guy.

But Kelly undoubtedly had his flaws. Look no further than his relationship with Debbie Reynolds, who was cast in the beloved musical Singin' in the Rain at 19 years old. The 39-year-old Kelly allegedly intimidated her to the point of tears. This behavior was apparently typical of Kelly in the rehearsal room, where he was rumored to be a tyrant whose punishing work hours and complicated choreography stymied even professional dancers.

Kelly was legendary for his grueling rehearsals, but no one had to endure quite so much intensity from him as Debbie Reynolds. Reynolds was 19 years old when she was cast in Singin' in the Rain, and she was far less experienced than Kelly or her other costar, Donald O’Connor. Not only was Kelly critical and dismissive of her dancing abilities, he often pushed her past the limits of her physical endurance.

The most difficult day for Reynolds was the shoot for "Good Morning." The number is nearly four minutes long, with extended sections of difficult tap dancing in which Reynolds had to match Kelly and O'Connor tap for tap. The first day of filming went from 8 am to 11 pm.

Reynolds later recalled, “My feet were bleeding... I couldn't move."

Perhaps the snappiest condemnation of Kelly came from Esther Williams. She reportedly said of the actor, “He was a jerk, but he could dance!” Williams had reason to be irritated. She described her time working with Kelly on Take Me Out to the Ball Game as “pure misery."

During the filming of the movie, Kelly grew irritated that his costar was taller than him, and he often made her slouch during their scenes together. During one take in which Williams was seated, he said of her, ”You know something? This sonofab*tch even sits tall!”

Kelly was reportedly difficult in the rehearsals for Singin' in the Rain, and his overstepping of boundaries didn’t stop there. Debbie Reynolds, 19 years old at the time, recalled one particularly unpleasant moment during filming:

“The camera closed in. Gene took me tightly in his arms... and shoved his tongue down my throat.

“Eeew! What was that?” I screeched, breaking free of his grasp and spitting. I ran around frantic, yelling for some Coca-Cola to cleanse my mouth. It was the early 1950s, and I was an innocent kid who had never been French-kissed... I was stunned that this 39-year-old man would do this to me.”

One of Kelly’s most important collaborators was Stanley Donen, a man he met while starring in Pal Joey in New York. Kelly was the star of the show, and Donen was a 16-year-old chorus boy. That dynamic - a mentor and his protégé - continued throughout their professional career and later contributed to their falling out.

When asked about Kelly later on, Donen said:

“Gene, as a performer, was among the wonders of the 20th century. His agility and his talents at being what he would call a 'song and dance man' were very winning.

What I didn't like - and I know this is not appropriate now - was his manner off-screen. He could be difficult with me and everyone else. It was always a complicated collaboration, partly because when we began he was a star and I was in the chorus. Then we became co-choreographers. It wasn't always the happiest thing, but I don't want to emphasize this today. It sounds like bad manners.”

The relationship became so acrimonious that, even after Kelly’s passing, Donen refused to take part in a documentary about his mentor. Donen reportedly told filmmakers he didn’t have anything nice to say, so he’d rather not say anything.

R32, totally disagree. I’ve heard of both of course, but have never seen a full film of either of them. Fred Astaire is definitely the more iconic name.

Maybe with Gen X and Boomers r38…

Astaire is a name you hear. Kelly is someone whose face you know.

Even off-set, Kelly was often alarmingly intense. Volleyball, a favorite game of his, often brought out the worst in the competitive showman. As Bob Fosse recalled, “I’d never seen anyone so fierce about a so-called friendly game in my life. He had a competitive streak in him that was quite frightening.” On the court, Kelly was most dangerous to himself. After losing one game, he stomped his foot so hard his ankle broke. Because of the injury, Fred Astaire had to replace him in 1948’s Easter Parade.

This one will get made The Kelly film will not.

No one stops to see how two Hollywood legends that were always pitted against each other in Hollywood both have bio-pics in the works at the same exact time? Hollywood still up to it’s same old tricks.

Oh honey. There are tons of viral videos of him on TT at the moment, some appreciating him and others teaching people about him.

They added that song from Dirty Dancing to him dancing. It works.

She thinks the Astaire film is the one that may get canned.

Astaire's life story is more interesting. The partnership with his sister. The partnership with Ginger Rogers. But the big difference between him and Gene Kelly is that he introduced some of the greatest songs of all time.

That no one under 40 knows r46

Young people know Kelly via the connection (indirect of course) with Singin in the Rain.

That’s about it. They have no idea whatsoever who Astaire is.

Apologies, I meant to say A Clockwork Orange, ironically using that song.

Kids aren’t watching A Clockwork Orange more than they’re watching Singin in the Rain.

After all these years, can we not agree that Astaire and Kelly were equally iconic, beloved and talented? Constantly playing them against each other is as stupid as comparing Maria Callas and Judy Garland.

These biopics are both dreadful ideas. Though, Evans is at least a fully grown man, unlike Holland- a child playing someone who had “old man face” his entire adult life.

Kelly is better known with Millennials and Gen Z.

Yes OP This is indeed classic stunt casting at its finest. They are bringing in a big name because they think that will sell the film.

With all the beautiful men tap dancing on broadway, I am sure they could find someone to play Gene Kelly. When you are portraying a legend you probably should bring in an unknown actor so people focus on the story and not the big name star.

[Quote]Gene Kelly was short and not beautiful.

Are you fucking kidding? The man was very beautiful and masculine. And back in the day, many dancers were short. Even Fred Astaire was only 5'9."

Gene Kelly was 5' 7" extremely athletic dancer with large quads and calves and a firm butt (lots of lower body strength). Chris Evans is a 6'0 classic bodybuilder (lots of upper body strength). They are both beautiful but in very different ways.

I love Captain America, but i do wish we could see something a bit more authentic in the casting of the icon Gene Kelly. Too much to ask for? Probably.

Chris Evans took tap dancing as a kid, so I'm sure he can do it well enough to get by. His fans will just be happy to see him dance. I'm sure it will be "fine" by Hollywood standards, but of course that bar is pretty low.

[quote] Holland- a child playing someone who had “old man face” his entire adult life.

Holland has a pinched, old man face and has had it for years.

Chris Evans in the Gene Kelly role in a Xanadu remake is all I would need for 2022.

I always mix him up with that weird looking guy from that horrible Willy Wonka movie.

R55 Who?

R56. I assume R55 means Gene Wilder. If so, he’s incredibly stupid. Does he also confuse Gene Kelly with Hene Tierney?

[quote] Kids aren’t watching A Clockwork Orange more than they’re watching Singin in the Rain.

Tell me you’re joking.

I used to mix up Bing Crosby and Bill Cosby. And Greer Garson and Greta Garbo. As an under-10, that is.

R47, I’d venture to say under 60. But anyway... Why is only about millennials and Gen Z? These films aren’t going to appeal to them. The only way I can see them being a success with them is based on the star power of the leads. For a 40 yr old, Evans has a very young female fanbase, so who knows.

R57 Thank you for the clarification. I think you are correct.

What boggles my mind (beyond that fools admitting publicly that he is so stupid that he repeatedly confuses two very different people) is that R55's dumbass can't string a few words together and make a sentence that expresses a coherent and relevant thought.

That is becoming more and more common on DL. I don't know if we have a) a bunch of small children on the website or b) too many elder gays on here with dementia or c) just a bunch of idiots. I tend to think it is c.

The idea that millennials and Gen Z are going to flock to a film about Gene Kelly is laughable.

A film about Judy, Gene or Fred is going to appeal to an older crowd. And that's fine too.

R60 why do you think Spider-Man and Captain America are being cast as the leads???

Girls, girls, stop with the authentic dancing argument. The answer is CGI. If they’re able to superimpose Natalie Portman’s head onto ballerina Sarah Lane’s dancing body in Black Swan, they’ll be able to do the same for the Kelly biopic. Also, like Black Swan, they can just shoot Evans “dancing” from the waist up using a lot of arm movements to show “dancing”., like they had Portman do in close-up scenes. Then when Oscar season comes around, the producers, studio heads, and director can launch campaigns to diminish the work of actual dancers on the movie, even silencing and threatening lawsuits when they speak up for their contributions.

I agree the casting here is wrong. Why not cast an unknown who could dance and sing, and has the right essence of Gene Kelly?

Some of that dancing was Portman.

[quote]Even "Hello Dolly" the stories are about Barbra's behavior and Walter Matthau but nothing about GK.

Not true. Streisand didn’t get along well with Kelly, as she thought he wasn’t particularly suited for the job of directing actors. According to Peter Bogdanovich, Barbra told him that Gene Kelly was in way over his head with Hello Dolly and had no idea what he was doing. She told Peter that she basically didn't have a director on the film and had to direct her scenes herself.

Sounds like Rami on Bohemian Rhapsody. Bryan Singer was MIA for a lot of the shooting of that film, and when he was there barely did shit or drove Rami nuts until he finally got fired.

This is just a vanity project for Evans that he cast himself in.

[quote] Bryan Singer was MIA for a lot of the shooting of that film, and when he was there barely did shit or drove Rami nuts until he finally got fired.

What does one expect when the star is far past peak ripeness? If he weren’t so old, his nuts would have been otherwise driven.

Evans has randomly mentioned Gene Kelly numerous times throughout his career and is one of his idols. Kelly is why he got into musical theater and tap dancing as a kid.

Didn't he do a Gene Kelly dance number in a Wes Andersen movie?

R65 some of dancing was Portman, but rudimentary in scope. It’s akin to say, an actor playing a figure skater and who could skate across the ice pretty well and from the upper body looks okay. But for the actual skating skills like spins and jumps, those crucial seconds of moves are actually done by trained figure skaters. You can argue the actor did bulk of skating (across the ice) but it discounts the fact that real, technical skating (lasting seconds) wasn’t done by the actor.

It was the same thing in Black Swan. As for how great Portman’s dancing was, doing pas de bourree in place while flapping her arms was not really dancing. Her upper body form was also off. But no one would’ve objected had the studio heads, producers tried to silence dancers’ contributions and insinuate that Portman did more than she did. I’m just sticking up for lowly dancers, as someone with ballet training and has been a ballet fan since age 9.

No

So that means he should play him in a movie, R70? I don't think so.

All the MARYing over this announcement is hilarious. It's not stunt-casting--there's no studio attached. It looks like Evans took his own story idea to John Logan to write the script. So it's Evans' baby. And it sounds like it's not any kind of biopic. The story supposedly centers around a boy who becomes infatuated with Kelly after meeting him on a film set (sounds a little like Jojo Rabbit). So Kelly might not even be the main character, although I'm sure he'll have plenty of screen time. Which also means there might not be a lot of actual dancing. If this movie even happens, we'll probably see Evans doing some of the more basic moves and in close up, and the rest will be movie magic.

As to whether he can pull it off, maybe. I'm skeptical, but stranger casting has worked. He's definitely athletic and limber enough, but the wrong body type (although what a be-a-utiful body). And he has the rep of putting the work in, so no doubt he'll endure some intense dance training. He's definitely got some natural charisma. And while he's made some baaaaad movie choices outside of the MCU, he has shown some real acting talent--he was really good in Snowpiercer, Puncture, and Knives Out, which demonstrates some range.

That's all assuming this movie even happens though. Unless Evans is really determined and doesn't get sidetracked with other projects, I can see something like this getting stuck in development hell.

[qoute]Not true. Streisand didn’t get along well with Kelly, as she thought he wasn’t particularly suited for the job of directing actors. According to Peter Bogdanovich, Barbra told him that Gene Kelly was in way over his head with Hello Dolly and had no idea what he was doing. She told Peter that she basically didn't have a director on the film and had to direct her scenes herself.

But do you see how there's no drama in that? It's crazed meanies like Bob Fosse that make a good story.

[quote]Not true. Streisand didn’t get along well with Kelly, as she thought he wasn’t particularly suited for the job of directing actors. According to Peter Bogdanovich, Barbra told him that Gene Kelly was in way over his head with Hello Dolly and had no idea what he was doing. She told Peter that she basically didn't have a director on the film and had to direct her scenes herself.

But do you see how there's no drama in that? It's crazed meanies like Bob Fosse that make a good story.

Also meant to add: it's interesting that they announced it at this very early stage. I suspect it was to float public reaction to Evans in the role. Which maybe didn't go the way he hoped, to say the least.

R56 : You couldn't understand that sentence? Who's the dumbass? They're essentially interchangeable cheesy old dead guys; easy to confuse their identities.

Kelly's directing of Dolly is very good especially that hat shop scene which is masterful in its timing. Where Kelly fucks up is in his casting and directing of the men. Crawford practically sinks the film single-handedly with Cornelius as severely brain damaged and Lockin and Tune overdo the goofiness as well. Also much of Kidd's choreography is just plain bad though it has its moments.

I think Streisand gives a terrific performance. Very funny and warm and caring where she needs to be. And she looks great in those Sharaff costumes. And this was the period where her singing was at its peak.

Kelly had the most beautiful thighs, legs and ass.

Woof

When things are tough, remember Gene Kelly’s butt

Awww. Gen Z is starting to objectify him!

From a year ago

To R62....If Superman& Captain America start jerking off to Kelly's ass, then Captain America Fucks Spidey hard for 30 minutes with Renner providing the lube. That movie I would go back to the movie theatre to watch on the big screen.

R84 Pics worshiping of Gene Kelly'a ass have been on the internet since 1994.

Yup. But now it’s continuing with the younger generation

I wonder if they'll do this one.

Or the Xanadu skating production.

It will probably focus on his younger years and now older.

R88 Oh really, did you check the age of the person who posted it?

[quote]Kelly's directing of Dolly is very good especially that hat shop scene which is masterful in its timing.

I directed that scene.

Babs then why is everything else you directed deadly serious without an ounce of genuine humor and mostly soap opera slop?

Among dancers, likely it’s Gene Kelly over Fred Astaire, probably the same for today’s casual viewers, based upon style alone. Gene’s dancing style is an amalgam of ballet, modern, and jazz with a bit of acrobatics thrown into the mix. This mixture of techniques lends his dancing more spontaneity, not just visually but the feelings generated in the viewers. Kelly’s style was both athletic and graceful, but most importantly he was able to convey stories and emotions with that style. Those movements were steeped in dance vocabulary and training but done in a spontaneous manner that made you, the viewer, envision yourself being carried away and dance the way Gene Kelly danced.

It’s funny how him and Fred were always compared when their dancing styles were opposite.

Astaire was more classical, with very small footing and graceful movements and gentle with “pretty”, while Kelly was very wide legged and athletic and masculine.

Are they going to Evans a cleft chin?

This is miscasting to the 10th degree. Just no.

Gene Nelson was better than Gene Kelly. But he was at the wrong studio at the wrong time. And Kelly did everything he could to stop Nelson's career.

R98 no.

Uh, wrong, R98.

You eldergays are too much. Gen Z and millennials don't give a shit about Gene Kelly except MAYBE to admire some very short clips on tiktok or youtube. But they are not sitting through The Pirate or Ziegfeld Follies or Xanadu or even Singing in the Rain.

The only draw for a film like this for them would be to see Captain America looking hot and dancing. And even that's a very iffy draw. I'm curious who Evans thinks the audience for this film is. My guess is he's aiming for the kind of Hollywood/critical approval that results in a huge push and success a la La La Land.

Singin in the Rain is still a beloved film.

Among the 50 and over crowd, sure.

I'm under 50 and love Gene Kelly, R103.

Can we have a scene of Evans doing ballet in some spray painted on light color ballet tights with a HUGE codpiece please! And of course countless shots of his ass in those tights too! lol!...

Oh, are you 49, R104?

Seriously, though, how many people do you know your age and younger who even remember seeing one or more of his films, or would call themselves a fan? None of his movies were big repeat network broadcasts in the past couple decades, none get major re-releases in theaters. If you didn't grow up with his movies, you have to go out of your way to see them. And those kind of big cheesy musicals haven't really found younger audiences--the musicals they like are the more modern stylish adaptations of Broadway shows (like Chicago).

I say this as a fan myself and a younger Gen Xer (mid 40s). For my age and younger, Gene Kelly movies are something you maybe watched with a parent or grandparent when you were little and sure the dancing was impressive but otherwise you barely remember them.

[quote] This the fifth thread on this topic, mein Fuhrer.

What are you talking about? This is the first thread on the iconic dance with Jerry. I hate thread Nazis who police threads, like the one who said we had duplicate threads of Betty White dying and linked to a general discussion thread of Betty White from 2020. Are we really supposed to go to the last post of a 500 post thread to discuss new developments?

I saw "Singin' in the Rain" in 1975 at Radio City.

With the Rockettes, no less, opening the film.

It later went on to play other movie theaters on it's 25th anniversary

But c'mon, no one is watching that film today except for film aficionados.

People watch it.

They couldn't even get young people to care about seeing West Side Story.

I love Singin' in the Rain. But no young person today gives a shit about sitting through Gene Kelly singing songs from the 1920s.

OMG, R110, he's not from the 1920. JFC.

Have a look at this guy dancing Gene's role in this recreation of Moses Supposes.

[quote] he's not from the 1920. JFC.

Uh...I didn't say he was from the 1920s.

But the score of Singin' is.

Of course you're too stupid to even know that.

Point is, R112, there's more to Gene than Singin'. Sheesh.

R110 this is where you’re mistaken, they couldn’t get young people to see the REMAKE to WSS. Many young people have seen the original.

I have a feeling the Venn Diagram of posters saying "young people are totally into these old movies I love" and "young studs are lining up to let my wrinkly elder dic top them" is a perfect circle.

Evans is a no talent, smug entitled breeder.

So playing a talented, smug breeder shouldn’t be much of a stretch.

Evans lacks charisma

Evans also lacks dick.

He also lacks lips and eyes.

They were there last time I checked.

It's going to be rather hard for Chris Evans to duplicate that dance, OP.

Jerry Mouse has been dead for forty years.

I should know. I ate the motherfucker.

These Marvel boys are so full of themselves. Doesn't Tom realize that nobody cares about him outside of Spider Man?

I was going to say what R106 & R108 did. I’m also on the younger side of Gen-X and absolutely no one ever talked about Gene Kelly or Fred Astaire. Today it’s mainly aficionados or people in the arts who still revere their films. Celebrity culture is mostly fleeting, I bet a segment of Gen Z never heard a Beatles song or know who Robert Redford is. Although, I actually think that tv actors/actresses and musicians have longer lasting legacies than most film stars. Look at Lucille Ball. In 30-40 years someone like Brad Pitt will be mostly forgotten. It’s the nature of celebrity.

Just because they aren’t “talked” about doesn’t mean people aren’t watching their films.

Let me correct that. Just because Gene isn’t talked about doesn’t mean people aren’t watching Singin In The Rain.

Young people’s taste is trash. If we make movies only according to what young people are interested in, we end up with trash movies.

Young people watch different things online.

The only thing worse than someone accusing someone of MARYing, is that someone not knowing what the hell they are talking about.

[Quote] It's not stunt-casting--there's no studio attached. It looks like Evans took his own story idea to John Logan to write the script. So it's Evans' baby. And it sounds like it's not any kind of biopic.

Studio attachment is not required. Being a biopic is not required. Who's baby it is doesn't matter. None of that has anything to do with the term "stunt casting."

R75 Evans IS planning on playing Gene Kelly (see below). THAT is what I am calling stunt casting.

Even though Evans will be "a producer" on the project, he will likely need a lot of people to get "his baby" off the ground. Unless Evans plans to fully finance this with his production company (AKA "Ginger Production Company") then there will be other producers and financial backers involved. He is going to need to "sell" this project with himself as the lead if others are contributing. But whether Evans financially backs it 100% or has partners, it will still be stunt casting.

The definition of "Stunt Casting" is simply:

"the casting of a very famous actor or other celebrity as a guest star in a movie or TV show, in order to garner publicity."

It doesn't matter WHO does the casting. What matters is that an inappropriate person is in the role strictly for monetary reasons because they think it will draw an audience.

Evans is NOT a dancer. He looks NOTHING like the Icon Gene Kelly. And he is not known for acting in dramatic roles. So if he doesn't have the technical ability (dancing skill) of the person he's portraying, doesn't look anything like him and is not known for having the acting ability to play him then what are we talking about? Stunt casting.

Evans is very popular with movie going audiences for playing superheroes. THAT is why he is trying to cast himself in the role and the ONLY reason any financial, production and technical backers would support this. And apparently he thinks he can put the buts in the seats. Maybe he can. We'll see. Stunt casting sometimes works, which is why people do it!

In the meantime, stop being an idiot and flaming for the purpose of flaming --- or at least know something about the topic where you are directing the flame! Sheesh!

That was a nice try R128, but you claimed "They are bringing in a big name because they think that will sell the film." There is no "they"--this is a story and film idea by Evans and he's putting together a team around it. Which means he also has to sell himself in the role. Not the same as a studio, director, producer, etc. wondering "what big names can we stick in this movie to sell it to financial backers and the public," which is what you tried to insinuate. So stop being an idiot and just admit you didn't read the press release about it before posting.

[quote] I don't want to see Chris Evans. He's at the bottom of the list of the Chrises.

For that I thank my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, every chance I get.

R129 Why don't you admit that you had NO IDEA what stunt casting was when you started your flame. 😂😂😂 We all can read. Honey just take the "L" and stop continuing to make a fool of yourself! HAHAHAHAHA

[quote]He's at the bottom of the list of the Chrises.

No, that would be Pratt and Pine.

I'd like to see Evans attempt the Moses Supposes dance.

Who is Moses Supposes?

Reynolds is my favorite of the Ryans, and Evans is my favorite of the Chrises, but I definitely DON'T want to see Evans play Gene Kelly. That is a disaster waiting to happen.

This could not be even in discussion at this level without the consent of Kelly's widow who is a known money grubber.

Kelly and Astaire both end up with money grubbing hoes after their nice wives died.

Is Kelly’s wife still alive?

His last wife was 47 years younger than him.

Kelly married Patricia Ward in 1990 (when he was 77 and she was 30).[37] Their marriage lasted until his death six years later and she has not remarried.[38]

I'm a child of the 1970s and television, old movies, event tv specials. Gene Kelly made my pulse rate increase when I watched Singin in the Rain, he looked very sexy dancing in his sailor suit with Jerry Mouse, or in On the Town, he had big shoulders, strong thick thighs, a super fine and defined ass!! His sex appeal was effortless, I was 10 and noticed it. Fred Astaire was the stop motion narrator for "Santa Clause is Coming to Town" on tv, Fred & Ginger movies on Sunday afternoons, non-threatening sophistication, but very entertaining. Two wholly different talents in their own right, iconic both.

Kelly seems to have wrecked his body with his athleticism. Astaire though a ceaseless perfectionist was less hard on his body and remained fit throughout his life.

Kelly looks younger and a little fay in OP's video.

Other than letting Liza's father blow him are there any gay rumors?

Liza's father? Who is that and what are you talking about?

R142 Are you talking about Vicente "Light in the Loafers" Minnelli?

Not R142, but I think that's who he's referring to, R144.

Gene Kelly was remarkable. Evans could never do what he did

We don’t need all these shitty biopics with minor talents playing major ones

So many Biopics being made right now.

This one. Tom Holland as Gene Kelly’s rival, Fred Astaire, Rooney Mara as Audrey Hepburn, Timmy Chalamet as Bob Dylan… who else?

Who will play Babs?

MJ Rodriguez as Josephine Baker.

Julia Roberts as Harriet Tubman

I hear there is a biopic in the works on the life of Frederick Douglass.

Based on their relevant experience, the three top actors contending for the role are: C. Thomas Howell, Robert Downey Jr., and Jimmy Fallon.

I hope Fallon gets it. Anything to get him off the television every night.

If Fallon gets that role, he would definitely be OFF every screen.