Eldergays, tell me about the rape of Lawrence of Arabia

It wasn't rape-rape, OP.

He never submitted his consent form.

I could see how his white ass could be tempting.

Maybe it was different times, but he does not look cute at all at R3.

He was wearing short shorts.

R4, to the Turkish soldiers, he might have been.

[quote] Eldergays, tell me about the rape of Lawrence of Arabia

Don't waste your time, OP.

None of us were there.

70% of Dataiounge like believe myths.

If he had looked like Peter O'Toole there would have definitely been rape. If there had been sex it would have been consensual. Lawrence was desperate.

We knew her as Florence of Arabia!

Lawrence was celibate and mentally-fragile.

And we have no way to gauge if his efforts made any difference to the war.

You can’t rape the willing .

[quote] You can’t rape the willing

That's an appropriate thing to say to that woman who is taking Prince Edward to court.

The alleged 'rape' took 20 minutes and was seen by no one one hundred and seven years ago.

It wasn’t rape, just a little over-the-robe action.

I'll have to dig out my copy of '7 Pillars' but TEL describes the whipping as 'vaguely sexual' or words to that effect.

I read a biography recently that says some hospital records came to light that suggest it did actually happen.

My favorite Lawrences are Gertrude, Joey, Vicki, and Welk.

Unlike O'Toole, he was a little guy with a huge head.

The torture and whipping probably included some anal probing and genital grabbing but no dick action, even though the Turkish soldiers were horny as hell most likely.

Larry was a British poof who had been teasing the swarthy Turkish soldiers for some time. He knew what he was doing playing peek-a-boo with his robes

R18 fun fact. He had a bad case of mumps as a kid and it stunted his growth ( he was only 5'4') , his voice never broke properly and he probably had sexual issues due to incomplete puberty/damaged testes.

He also was so averse to physical touch that he wouldn't even shake hands... That was BEFORE the rape. He said in private letters and diaries that he'd never had sex and 'didn't much want to. '

Weird guy... Kinda sad.

Maybe he felt guilty about his same sex encounters and tried to justify them by saying that he was raped.

He wasn't as tight as Ivor Novello.

It was pretty painful...

until he pushed past my second ring...

He loved it.

R1 I didn't know you were on here Whoopi

[quote] Maybe…?

Maybe not, R22.

[quote] I read a biography recently that says some hospital records came to light that suggest it did actually happen.

I might believe this story if those hospital records were shown.

[quote]I might believe this story if those hospital records were shown

They're not very helpful...

Larry claimed he fell on a Turkish man's penis...repeatedly

It was the purple-faced Obi-Wan that popped Lawrence's butt-cherry

[quote]Eldergays, tell me about the rape of Lawrence of Arabia

How the hell should I know? I never made him suck MY cock.

R16 But these "hospital records" you mention'; are they English hospital records or Arab hospital records?

One of the reviewers suggests this new biography might be too serious for the average Datalounger.

[quote] Perhaps the first serious study since homosexuality lost its titillation, the author is free to take a more grown up perspective. We benefit instead from seeing an Aesthetic intellectual entirely of his era, steeped in a mystical romanticism that would carry him against the winds and ultimately destroy him. If the author's conclusions on the "identity" of SA disappoint you, then the reading is wasted on you and you will find more meat in the tittle tattle of the endless turgid assassinations before.

r12 You must mean Prince Andrew. Edward is a poof.

contrary to the quote in R33, homosexuality has never lost its titillation.

The new transvestites are the new titillation.

Ordinary homosexuality has become safe, bourgeois and boring. You see children being taken to the "LGBTQI+" parades.

"homosexuality has never lost its titillation"

I love being titillated by homosexuals :)

Noel did say if Lawrence looked like Peter O'Toole the Arabs would have never let him go.

Lawrence and Noel Coward became friends in 1930. Lawrence said Coward's plays were, "not deep but remarkable. A hasty kind of genius."

R32 Turkish I think.

[quote] Turkish I think.

Do you think they say say ANYTHING revelatory about Lawrence perhaps?

R41 I think the main thing is that they put him in the right area at the right time. It's been a while since I read it, I'll have to bone up again ( pun intended.)

[quote]and you will find more meat in the tittle tattle of the endless turgid assassinations before.

"Turgid" is one of my favorite words.

[quote] "Turgid"

Lawrence laboured hard to handle English prose but his 700 page book is long, opaque, confusing, ambiguous and rather turgid.

Turgid in physical terms usually suggests swollen or erect but in literary terms it usually suggests bloated or overlong. It's one of my favorite words too.

If any of you California Queens have access to Theordora Duncan's incompletely catalouged collection in the Huntington Library... Have at it.

Part 2

I read he enjoyed humiliation and also made stuff up. This paper might be of interest here.

jeezus, with all of the allusions and hedging language, for all we know they castrated or gelded him in addition to ripping his bowels.

The Edwardians never gave a straight answer to anything even vaguely sexual. The letters make it sound like he was physically damaged in some way. Who the fuck knows. r48 Masochism isn't an unusual response to abuse either.