HENRY DANGER AND CAPTAIN MAN

We had a thread a while ago. Post a pic when you start a thread.

Cpt Man blowing Henry.

Were these 2 the ambiguously gay duo? The physical interaction was waaaaayyyy too much for Nickelodeon.

[quote]We had a thread a while ago.

That doesn't even come up if you do a search for :henry Danger"

[quote]Post a pic when you start a thread.

That's never, ever been a rule here, even an informal one.

You really are insanely controlling. You must have been toilet trained at four months, and by Joan Crawford.

Pic is an informal rule if you want people to read it.

R4, I'm not R1 but I agree about posting images in the OP, thread titles can be vague or misleading and people aren't always as descriptive in their OP text as they may think they're being which makes people scroll past things that may interest them. Despite OP's Batman & Robin reference I didn't know what this thread was about until I did a Google image search.

Sorry to bump an old thread, but I've recently been subjected to this show pretty much every night (they put reruns on in every Nickelodeon block) for over a week thanks to having my little cousins & their parents (big cousins) over while they're in town. Little cousins were very young pre-schoolers/gradeschoolers when 'Henry Danger' originally aired, so it's a show to which they have a formative attachment, and even though they're now preteens they still seem to really enjoy it (maybe on a different level?) as do their folks. To be fair, I remember really liking the earlier Nickelodeon hits 'The Amanda Show' & 'Drake & Josh' at their current age, so I guess it's geared to that age demo and their parents.

OP is right, though; the script, blocking and acting on 'Henry Danger' (and the sequel series 'Danger Force' flies really close to the mark--but of course it does, it's a Schne !der's Bakery production. In what seems to be the final season/episodes in the series, the gay references & innuendos kick into high gear, many of them hinting or teasing about the growing and changing personal relationship between Henry/Kid Danger and his beloved mentor Ray/Captain Man (to be clear, I personally don't approve of those jokes until this final season, in which Henry turns 18 and actually looks like a young man not a little boy).

In the two-parter episode 'Back To The Danger', there's even an explicit mention. Captain Man's old sidekick (pre-Henry), the now-grownup and villainous Drex (kind of a Jason Todd expy), confronts the pair. At one point, Captain Man is tasked to escort a child to safety out of range of the throwdown, and so leaves an 18-year old Henry to "keep Drex busy" in the meantime. True to superhero formula, Henry & Drex trashtalk for a minute or two before they engage in physical combat. Drex taunts Henry "Kid, I'm gonna crush you--then I'm gonna crush your *boyfriend* Ray when he comes back!". To which Henry barks back, without any flinch or revulsion or a scramble to deny, "we're COWORKERS!" The fact that there was no spittake moment here was refreshing, and also how it was treated as a semi-serious argument (maybe even a jealous one, considering Drex & Henry's shared affiliation?) Henry & Drex then went on to discuss their previous fight, which involved literal onscreen spanking.

Oh, and Captain Man called a scientist "Daddy" in this episode, for no apparent reason. So there's that.

I am surprised that Henry Danger wasn't a victim of the cancel culture, as it pretty much had something to offend everyone ( racial stereotyping, punching out old people, Capt Man trying to seduce Henry's mother) and this:

R8 right? Iirc one episode had Mpreg--I've never seen that on a live-action kids' show before. I've also clocked blink-and-you'll-miss-it references to B DSM, child br!des, sexbots, siblingcest, prison rape, hottub hookups, furniture sex, and fingering. It's a bit uncomfortable watching this with kids who thankfully aren't getting any of that.

The show finale even has Kid Danger faking his own death and attending his own funeral in plain clothes, so he can be free to be a superhero in a different city (like Dick Grayson did, I guess). Which is pretty fucking dark.

Again, reminder that this show is primarily targeted at the age 8-15 demo. From what I see quickly scanning online reviews, though, older people seem to enjoy it as much if not more (hungover students and parents mostly).

Actual final season Ray & Henry dialogue:

"So, how long you been thinking about leaving me?" "Look, I'm not trying to leave you, okay..."

"You don't seem very committed to me!" "I'm not graduating highschool because of my commitment to this..."

In this recording of a 2018 Comicon Revolution convention panel, Jace at just past the 12 minute mark remarks playfully and flirtatiously that in the final season there’d be “makeout” scenes between him and his costar Cooper (who plays Ray), and Cooper blusters over this was a nervous laugh. Sadly this was not the case in the final cut of the show.

(from the episode 'Saturday Night Lies') HENRY, about RAY: "Amazing man, my *Daddy*"

Peep how right before the camera cuts away, Henry’s hand opens under Ray's as if he wanted to hold Ray’s hand and entwine their fingers after the suggestive little look and brush below the chin. Also, who makes a physical gesture like that to their father? That is a total boyfriend move.

Keep in mind the context that this happened right after Lacey (Ray's ex girl) and her new man were being touchy-feely in front of Ray over dinner to make him jealous and act superior. In response, Henry instinctively and automatically drapes his arm over Ray’s, makes heavy bedroom eyes at him, touches him and talks to him while ignoring their dinner guests. Allegedly they are trying to play close loving relatives, but out of full context and even within it, it really comes off like Henry is Ray's twink jailbait boyfriend showing off and rubbing PDA with Ray in Lacey's face.

^the clip in question

Ray, yelling at his new young teen sidekicks on seeing a College-aged Henry after time apart: “SHUT UP, I’m talking to Henry!...he’s mine now.”

The clear favouritism becomes a running joke. While Ray does come to respect his new young kids eventually and feel a degree of protectiveness for them, he always shows the most open love and enthusiasm and care and pride for Henry above them, and doesn’t bother making a secret of it. And he’s devastated whenever Henry doesn’t always demonstrate the same back.

Same episode (‘Return Of The Kid’): Ray also drools copiously all down himself and his clothes at first sight of Henry; Ray offers to go to a nail bar with Henry with the implication they’ve gone together several times before; Ray & Henry dance a tango; Ray tells Henry “I love you” and “I’ve missed you” in what sounds like a non-platonic way; the lines “we’re just kind of vibing right now”/“you don’t even know what that means”/“it’s means like, we’re together, but not really”, “looks like you & me are going to POUND TOWN, buddy!” and “I want to see that sweat stain you..”

Jace Norman has BDF, big feet, and long fingers.

A hairy, happy, tanned 20-something Jace cosied up in bed shirtless with one of his former Nick costars, Sean Ryan Fox:

grown-up Jace looks so edible on his back....

There's meant to be a Henry Danger movie coming out, but it looks like it's still in production and has been for a year so :/

R15 oh so you don't think Cooper's the one packing?

"Hey--you're my first sidekick that I really care about!"

*Sceptical* "Ohhhh, sure. D'you tell Drex that, too?"

"No-oo! (beat) Well, maybe. Look, Drex & I were only together for a few months! We never even--*sotte voce* we never even fought crime together."

*choked* "Did you think about it?"

*beseeching* "Henry..."

*disgusted and dismayed* "OHhhhh, God! Really?!!"

There's a moment in the episode 'Thumb War', during a scene where Ray & Henry get trapped at very close quarters in a rocket, where it seems like a half-asleep Ray actually pinches Henry's ass (go to about 27 seconds). At least, Henry gasps about something unseen, at the same moment Ray shifts beside him (his arms are out of frame so we can't see what he's doing).

^And then there's the episode with a different rocket, the Love Shuttle--a boudoir rocket (originally designed by Captain Man's scientist henchman Schwoz for personal use) in which Ray & Henry hitch a ride as a convenient way to get into space for a mission.

This shuttle is bigger, with vibrating seats, sexy R&B onboard music, and satin & shag trim & soft pink lights everywhere. When the music comes on as the heroes prep to launch, they spend a good second moving suggestively to it in their seats. Ray is reaaaaally getting his hips into it. When Henry irritably asks Schwoz over comms how to turn it off (once the novelty wears off, I guess), Schwoz admonishes Henry, "'aw, come on! 'Love Music' isn't for turning off, it's for turning *on*...." Like...just...what did Schwoz think Ray & Henry were gonna get up to in that rocket?

I...don't even know what to say to make any normative sense of this show, at this point. I'm not sure it's even possible. Am genuinely pretty shocked and impressed that the writers & producers allowed so much innuendo under the radar. Every single episode has at least a handful or several instances.

R27 it looks like surprise anal to me.

Spent some time on Jace's Twitter account. Religious and Trump references scattered throughout along with Musk retweets. A 2019 pic on his insta shows Kanye West and Elon Musk posing together. Not sure if he's a True Believer or looking for clout.

R24 religious? That little whore? He doesn't look the type. I've seen him blazing up and partying and half-naked all over his IG.

The proof is in his twitter account R25. Religious references everywhere.

^seems like all the religious & political tweets (at least the ones I found with a quick search) date specifically from 2021 COV!D peak era. He was probably just stuck in his house and depressed and bored. He's said in press before he has some mental health issues both inherent and all his own. I remember being aged 21, on pills, depressed and out of work, it made me feel and say and do odd offputting or out-of-character things too. He may have meant those sentiments, of course, but if he did then his vehemence about them certainly died down years ago.

All I got from his tweets is that he can't fucking spell, and he's got a weird sense of humour. He doesn't mind people teasing him or speculating about his sexuality, which is nice, but that could just be generational.

Here's a sample:

"Very stable genius"; "Gods got me covered"; "I love America Tesla and Kayne west."; "They ain't gonna come for me until He's done with me"; "I could tell you. He could show you. 🙏"; "Trembling with the fear of God. And I don’t fear nothin else"; "Satan were gonna tear your kingdom down."; "God gave me 20/20 vision this year 🙏 Don’t jump Anakin I got the higher ground."; "Still doing it for God. They Mad"; "They can kick him off the ballot but that doesn’t make Joe Biden my hero ;)"; "Don’t tell me about those ‘woke‘ facts. Those just sound like broke facts."

He is a product of the dumbed-down education system like many kids are, yet he was listed as one of TIME's 25 most influential teens of 2018.

He's just a goose-step away from MAGA cultist, influencing 305.6K Twitter/960K YouTube/5.2M Instagram subscribers.

^ok but he looks like this. so

[quote] "They ain't gonna come for me until He's done with me"; "I could tell you. He could show you. 🙏"; "Trembling with the fear of God. And I don’t fear nothin else"

Why do American Christians always sound so homoerotic when they quite scripture?

R23 no that was a different episode

Attractive looks do draw the gullible in, R29. His young social media followers are fawning over this MAGA-lite illiterate.

Cooper & Jace need to do another project together. They have such perfect chemistry and screen presence as a duo.

jace has a look about him like he needs to be railed

HENRY: "Looks like Captain Man's indestructible again."

RAY, smug and smirking: "(beat) *Everywhere*."

HENRY: "..."

Jace was sooooo queeny as a little boy. He's toned it down a lot, makes you wonder if he's sort of self-closeting (sad if true).

from the episode 'License to Fly':

Henry (as Kid Danger): “So I’m old enough to beat up vicious ballet dancers, but not old enough to fly the Mancopter?”

Ray (as Captain Man): “It’s not a question of age; it’s a question of experience, training…”

Evil Henchman:“ Uh, 'scuse me, are we gonna fight? Or do you two need to see a couples therapist?”

Ray: “Perhaps … BOTH."

Then sometime later in the episode, Henry attempts to get in the drivers' seat of the *sighs and reads smudged writing on hand* Mancopter cockpit by climbing onto Ray's lap and wriggling around. Ray tries to eat a banana as a snack while this is happening.

Jace once named his own character 'Cooper' in a random Nick sketch. I mean, it worked for a rhyming pun, but still. Cute as hell.

I just want what him & Cooper have.

Jace was acting pretty horny the day they filmed the Xmas episode in the last season.

Maybe it was Cooper saying the line "Merry Fistmas" that got him all worked up. "Sloppy (phone) handling" also seemed to get to him. He was 18 years old at the time, it happens.

In the episode 'Love Muffin', where Henry falls under a temporary love spell that infatuates him with his male schoolfriend Jasper, he at one point initiates a fairly firm and slow and erotic backrub on Jasper which seems very much appreciated. Once the spell breaks, they never mention it again.

R40, I’m surprised this show wasn’t banned in parts of. the South like Elvis’ Ed Sullivan performance.

R9 What a horrible female with execrable vocal fry.

There’s a cute moment in one episode where Captain Man meets two lovely and caring adoptive gay dads to a young child. That’s very nice representation to have.

Also had no idea the actor who plays Schwoz is FTM? One of the oldest (aged around 40-something I believe?) and most convincing transformations I’ve ever seen. I’d never have known or guessed if the actor hadn’t come out.

From the episode 'The Beat Goes On' (nb. Ray & Henry transform into their hero alter egos using magic gumballs):

Ray: "Henry! I think you know what to chew and blow!"

Henry: "I think I do. (beat) You mean the gum, right?"

Ray: "Yeah, I mean the gum..."

Henry: "I was just checking!"

R8 Frankie Grande seemed pretty game and happy to play up the glittery camp theatrical stereotype. From what I've seen from behind-the-scenes, he had input into his character and had fun doing it.

There's a musicale moment where his villain character forces Ray & Henry to perform 'Three Little Maids' that's just deranged. '

Wonder if Frankie's butt was ever Capt Man-handled

[quote] "You don't have to fly to have a cape--you just have to OWN it."

Ray is a DLer confirmed!!!!

[quote] Pic is an informal rule

An "informal rule"?

Who the fuck do you think you are?

Love that show. The sequel, Danger Force, just doesn't work as well because the Ray/Henry chemistry is missing.

Watching the show now I'm bemused at the way Jasper had a permanent crush on Henry, though Charlotte was indifferent to Henry. There were one or two episodes where Jasper was supposed to have a girlfriend but it wasn't believable. His Henry worship was way over the top.

There is a recurring in-joke in every season: Somebody will mention the second season of Will and Grace, then everybody will respond loudly "That is the BEST season!" Did somebody in Henry Danger work on the Will and Grace show or is it just a random recurring gay joke?

Is this show meant for sassy 9 year olds or 40 year old queens?

Jasper hit puberty well before Henry, displaying pit hair around season two or three. We didn't see pit hair on Henry until season 5. At 2:20.

r51, it's so hard telling the difference these days.

Cooper Barnes, who plays Captain Man, is straight, but he's very warm and adores his fans.

I would hate to be a parent nowdays when children are encouraged to be so sassy, 'fierce', and foul-mouthed.

[quote] Jasper had a permanent crush on Henry, though Charlotte was indifferent to Henry. There were one or two episodes where Jasper was supposed to have a girlfriend but it wasn't believable. His Henry worship was way over the top.

It seemed like in the last couple seasons they were trying to push Piper/Jasper, which was...beyond gross. And didn't work.

Jasper was absolutely taken with Henry from their first encounter, and that never really changed or went away. When the show wasn't playfully hinting at Ray & (of age!) Henry developing a sexual chemistry, it was hinting at Jasper lusting Henry or generally being gay. Many of the teen fans made tons of edits and manifestos about Jasper being coded gay, so it wasn't that subtle.

As for Charlotte/Henry, it's so refreshing that the show debunked that pairing. I wonder why they did, though? It isn't the usual formula for a tweencom to write their young male & female leads as averse to a romance between them, Dawson & Joey style. It made perfect sense in 'Henry Danger', though--you're right that Charlotte was always apathetic to Henry as more than an annoying brother & coworker/classmate, and she was certainly too smart and hard to impress and straightforwardly blunt for him.

R54 Cooper has such a caring, fun, approachable and decent Daddy vibe

This kid looks just like Homelander’s son in The Boys. Rather, Homelander’s son looks like Henry Danger.

Cooper Barnes would never have done better than he did as Captain Man, and he knows it. Although he's got a fine body and he's quite handsome overall, his buggy eyes and his weak chin would have prevented him from becoming a movie star. But he's absolutely happy with where he is and always shows his gratitude openly for his career. He's a great guy.

R59 it seems like meeting and knowing and loving Jace made it all worth it for Cooper.

R44, I'm astonished too. Had no idea. Though transgender was hinted at in one episode, the one where 90-year-old Captain Man is brought back from the future by mistake and he looks at Schwoz and says, "Schwoz, you're a man again!"

There's also a Danger Force episode, the one where Captain Man plays a runway fashion model (one of his funniest roles). There were twin children guest actors, one of whom was transgender, and they carefully explained that for the audience. That was 2 years ago.

That's why I always laugh at rightwing creeps trying to censor library books. They have no idea what their kids have been watching on TV all along.

[quote] I always laugh at rightwing creeps trying to censor library books. They have no idea what their kids have been watching on TV all along.

True. If you let your kids watch Nick at a young age, especially the Schne!derverse content or the night blocks, then you’ve essentially allowed them to watch thinly-veiled adult material.

But you know, Shakespeare is also full of smutty puns and drag and crimes and slang and bad behaviour, so😔

last time Drex was seen (on Danger Force) he ended up loose in Henry's new city Dystopia. So I am now slightly closer to my dream of seeing Drex becoming a retired/washed up ex-villain frenemy fuckbuddy of Henry's who always talks smack about Ray with him. would be a good side plot for the new movie js

(listen i love Ray but he is the true villain of the story as is his dad Dr. Carl Manchester who fucked them all up in the name of genome splicing. you can even see how Ray got better and matured when it comes to raising kids/protecting colleagues by looking at how he treats Danger Force compared to what little we know about how he treated Drex. like highschool age Drex got a life sentence for acting out like the traumatised teen he was and Ray was the one who sent him down tf)

Mitch Bilsky (local bully): "Are we gonna play Dodge-aline, or are you two just gonna stand here and KISS?"

Jasper: "We're just good friends!"

Henry: "Alright! Let's dodge some balls..."

Bonus:

Henry winking saucily at Ray and holding his gaze after they argue about who'll win the Dodge-aline game. Obviously he was a very naughty and challenging brat.

R55 Ray admonishes Henry for talking back in one scene, though Henry doesn't take it seriously and only laughingly apologises.

[quote] "What have I told you about SASS?"

It's canon that being Ray's sidekick means you have to wash, fold and handle his underwear.

Ray (to Drex, as he folds underwear as a challenge): "Try to keep up; follow [Henry's] lead."

Henry (to Drex): "That's how [Ray] LIKES it."

Plus there's the episode where Drex first shows up, Captain Man reluctantly admits Drex was his first sidekick, and Henry keeps acting exactly like a jealous possessive girlfriend.

R50/Rottcodd this Reddit thread asks the question

R67 yes, you’re right, that scene is not at all subtle. I love that moment. In it, 17 year old Henry is cocking his hip and snapping his neck pouting and glaring at Ray from under his lashes in the most bitchy twinky needy way, and the dialogue he has with Ray is super loaded. Idk how this goes over straight parents’ heads.

I kind of wish they hadn’t laugh tracked it, it would have been a shocking and thought-provoking conversation with no canned effects—the idea that a growing young man with sexual ambiguity who’s employed as a sidekick to a handsome powerful older hero might become blindsided by powerful inconvenient (and unreciprocated at first, let’s be clear) feelings of lust or limerence.

It’s described at R20 and also shown at a few minutes into the compilation.

I would be more interested is seeing a sex tape of Capt Man ordering Henry to fuck Jasper while he watches and beats off.

Or Henry being gangbanged by Rick Twitler, The Time Jerker, and Drex.

Thank you, R68 ! Suspected it was something like that. Just an obscure in-joke the writers kept repeating every season.

[quote] Henry being gangbanged by Rick Twitler, The Time Jerker, and Drex.

Henry would go crazy for that. Especially getting drilled open by Drex in front of other villains. Think of the semiotics alone! Allowing himself to be penetrated by the older man he supplanted and bettered in every way, except in terms of sexual dominance. Those two have already enacted a bunch of k!nks when fighting with each other in public anyway--most memorably choking, spanking, tying up, uniforms, foodplay--so they'd probably be into some very wild and freaky games if they did engage that way.

Drex seems like one of those guys who's same-sex attracted to a small or tentative degree (like brosexual, downlow or situationally-gay/bi) but also really kneejerk-jock homophobic about it because of his rough neglectful upbringing, lonely lifestyle, and his age demographic as well as trauma from how Ray left him. And it's a little bit hot in a guilty pleasure way.

tired Henry falling asleep on Ray's chest and shoulder...crying Henry koalaing and wrapping arms around Ray's neck for comfort...awestruck Henry calling Ray "my hero" after Ray does something particularly cool....I'm fine this is fine

btw Tommy Walker the actor for Drex used to play in a terrible NYC retro club glamrock band called Sweet Fix. He has an ok voice and looked pretty hot in eyeliner though

R70 that’s pretty fucking sexy

How do we feel about a grown Henry topping Ray?

R76, look at Jace's very long fingers and big feet. If anything it might be an indication of his cock size, so the scene might qualify for inclusion into Twink Top.

R77 could totally see that dynamic tbh!

And Ray definitely sometimes gives bossy demanding power bottom/vers Queen vibes, liking to dom verbally or with muscular cues and order his sidekicks around while laying on his back and letting them do the work to pleasure him (the way HE likes). Ray might be the Captain and he may be Daddy, but that doesn't mean he can't enjoy taking a long thick pounding from an eager stud...

One of the episodes of the final season has as a main theme a pastiche of Grindr/Growlr (in-universe called 'Rumblr'), wherein heroes can socially network via app to match with various villains and connect with them (r: date) or jump straight into a fight (r: fuck).

Ray has grown bored with his Rogues Gallery, but still is very reluctant to use the app to find fresh meat, adamant that he prefers to "meet the old-fashioned way" in passing on the street or at a bar, and once he does give it a try he's disappointed with the overly-physical and non-communicative style of the encounters he sets up. Ray ends up back at a bar commiserating over the romance of hero-villain connections with one of his old enemies, The Toddler, and they both recapture their spark that way.

Henry on the other hand loves the app and takes to it right away, instantly connecting with a villain named Kyle (who honestly just looks like a College basketball hunk with above-average reflexes & strength) and fighting vigorously and joyfully with him right off the bat.

It's pretty obvious what the show was driving at here...

If you want to see the superhero and sidekick dynamic taken up a level, check out the hilarious animated series "The Venture Bros". They had an episode where a superhero named Captain Sunshine was obviously in love with his young (14-15 year old) super sidekick Wonderboy - it's like an open secret and even the public whisper about his attachment to the kid. After the kid got killed, Captain Sunshine was so broken up that he took Hank Venture and basically tried to Stockholm Syndrome him into being the replacement for his lost love. Also, CS's suit has the rainbow flag colors on it.

CS is teary about the loss and wistfully talks about Wonderboy's smile, asks Hank to have a slumber party with him and is hands on when helping Hank try on Wonderboy's old super outfit, running his hand over Hank's butt to check the fit. CS kisses Hank on the lips when Hank is going back home. The showrunner did not skimp on the outright allusions to CS's feelings for the kid.

R80 love Venture Bros.!

Personally General Treister is my favourite character, but you're right that the deconstruction of the hero/ward relationship via Captain Sunshine & Wonderboy was inspired as well as quite sad and dark. One wonders how far poor Hank went along with that madness...

^and actually now you mention it, I notice the costumes of current Henry & Drex look similar to those of later-seasons Hank & Jared. Wonder if a few of the 'Henry Danger' writing & production team are Venture fans?

[quote] RAY: He [Rick Twitler's] gotta have a tryst with my fist!

was not even the wildest thing said or done in the episode I just watched..

Henry gives Ray the most Z-snap response in the episode 'Meet Cute Crush':

"You're going to New York?"

"Yeah, for the weekend."

"Why?"

"Cuuuuuz...you don't need to know why, that's why!"

A cute little gay/bi moment in the crossover episode with ‘Game Shakers’ (another Nick teencom, with an ensemble cast)...

At one point Henry descends the stairs of his house to meet the Shakers (from their POV), and when it happens the camera switches to romantic slow-mo and R&B music plays to show that Henry is an object of desire for the drooling Shakers...both the girls and the boys. None of the other teens can look away from Henry or close their mouths, and one of the boys even remarks about Henry “dude’s bringing it...”

[quote] HENRY: Let's pop some gum and get this glitter out of my bum!

Um...what

Frankini tricks Ray & Henry into one of his traps by appealing to their vanity, promising them a male model photoshoot. Hmmm.

In the last season it's made explicit that Henry is becoming promiscuous. His sister Piper admonishes him, saying that their parents keep telling Henry not to go around "kissing strangers" all the time.

Must have been a handful for Ray at that point in their partnership....

Henry played " Trick Boy" with a plunging neckline.

R89 Ray really liked calling him 'Trick Boy' constantly. He looked like the cat that got the cream when the magician girl Tatiana got in on the teasing too. Henry really did look like glampunk trade in that get-up and makeup, though, to be fair. And with the burlesque way he was spread-eagle strapped to the wheel at the end, what did the writers want us to think?

The cuff trick and resultant scuffle in this episode was uhhhh....ummmm....well, it was really something. By the end of the bit, Ray had fallen over with his face literally squashed nose-down in a prone Henry's (clothed) ass. With every episode I see, I'm less and less convinced this show was actually made for kids, y'know...

Nickelodeon Easter egg: The Magic Palace setting was often mentioned but never seen in 'Drake & Josh', as a favourite haunt of young Josh who was an aspiring hobbyist magician and went to see magic shows there. The one-episode character The Great Doheny, Josh's erstwhile idol, was said to be an esteemed senior member of the Palace.

^speaking of ‘Drake & Josh’, wonder if that creep Drake Bell ever made a move on Jace?

Drake is known to like them younger (the age gap here is about 14 years), and is reportedly downlow bisexual. And before Drake’s indiscretions and crimes came to light in recent years, Jace had professed admiration for him...

If Jace were gay, how could he say," No" to Drake?

Gay or not gay, there is no doubt in my mind that 19-year old Jace wanted Cooper to fuck him. Or wanted to fuck Cooper. Either way.

seems like Jace has been pretty open to finding other men attractive since his teens. good for him.

[quote] RAY, threatening Stupid Jeff who is complaining of hunger: The only thing you're gonna get that's big & beefy will be your cellmate!

Other highlights from this episode:

--finding out Henry's middle name is Prudence

--Mitch & Jeff Bilsky repeatedly referring to Henry as 'a wenis'

--Mitch teasing Henry that he "rubbed his butt on [Henry's] pillow"

R92 it's likely that Drake fucked the late Aaron Carter in the years of doom-spiralling before his death. Goodness knows what diseases Drake has. That's a hard pass, no matter how many inches Drake is packing.

Never heard about Drake and Aaron. Both are/were nicely hung.

That skit at R89 was hot!

Mainly because Jace looked sexy as fuck in that outfit (and hair, actually).

I love seeing his exposed chest, and later on, his abs.

And the ending was great, with Cooper's face landing right on Henry's ass.

Oh, and who is the "blond guy" from Stranger Things that Jace was crushing on at R93?

I didn't realize that Cooper was British.

He does an American accent perfectly.

Also, he was quite a twink himself, back in the day.

Does Jace have any projects lined up?

He seems to be at a standstill, career wise.

Which is weird, because he has millions of fans on Instagram.

You would think that casting directors would want to take advantage of that.

Also, I didn't know he was friends with Gregg Sulkin and Cameron Fuller. Aren't they both gay?

R99 Cooper really was an adorable and even pretty teen. Look at those big innocent eyes and that floppy glossy hair! He gives Jace at the same age a run for his money.

Not to be a pedant, but define 'British'. Cooper does have an English parent or grandparent and was born in Sheffield, but as a toddler he was taken out of the U.K. to live in Michigan with U.S. relatives and apparently remained there all his life. He doesn't speak with any trace of an English or British accent. He's never been to school in any of the four U.K. nations or the islands, hasn't grown up or taken work here, has never once paid British taxes or voted or been on the HMRC database, and presumably was removed from the NHS system before the age of 5 (in the early 1980s). He hasn't even moved back to Britain with his family or seemingly visited much in adulthood, beyond a few Comic Con events for work, so it's not as if there's any hiraeth troubling him.

It's true and fair to say at the utmost Cooper has 50% British parentage/ancestry/blood and a British birthplace--he isn't a full Brit, though. On first meeting and without knowing anything about him, no-one would guess he was British at all. Cooper is culturally, linguistically, legally and financially an American, through and through. To call Cooper a Brit or an Englishman would be like calling Trent Alexander Arnold (England national footballer) an American or even a Jamaican because that's where his Dad & grandad immigrated from respectively--listen to Trent speak and watch how he behaves for just five minutes, and you could never classify him as anything but fully enculturated Scouser (Trent wouldn't say English, of course ;)). Unless you were a massive xenophobe and a racist, but that's another discussion.

Though now it's come up, I'd be curious to know if Cooper has a dual passport or applied for one, like Frankie Grande has just done for Italy (successfully). Would be a bit cheeky if he had. Can't blame him, though, state of the States...

R100 from what I gather online, for the past few years Jace has been working sporadically and quietly, both behind-the-camera on some film projects, and also as a model for fashion shoots. He seems to have had emotional health struggles, so perhaps that's taken a lot of time to sort out.

He is so gorgeous, he must have had casting couch offers aplenty. Whether or not he's availed himself and jumped on them is another question.

[quote] He seems to have had emotional health struggles, so perhaps that's taken a lot of time to sort out.

Interesting that you mention this.

Just scrolling through his Instagram, Jace looks sad/reflective in most of his photos.

Right off the bat, I thought that he looked depressed. And lonely.

He seems to spend a lot of time at his house in New Mexico, just playing with his dogs or walking around the property.

Such a handsome and personable guy, you wouldn't think he would be lonely.

In one photo of him getting on a plane in Kenya, he wrote: "Easier to make friends out here."

Then in another photo on New Year's Day, he wrote: "New Year New Me. Fresh Start for everyone."

Sometimes when you work on a popular show for a long time, you're surrounded by what becomes your "family." Then when the show ends and everyone goes their separate ways, it must be hard to adjust to not being around them any more.

Must be especially hard when you're also making that transition from kid to adult.

Jace speaks in this interview with the 'Breakfast Club' show on Power 1051 FM radio about him being a naturally introverted and low-energy person, a sufferer of anxiety & depression & addiction (apparently it runs in his family), and disliking the self-centred ambitious user culture of Hollywood & L.A.

He seems like a lovely person, honestly. Perhaps far too sensitive and personable for the business he's in. Could also explain why he turns to organised religion for solace (a shame, but we can't have everything, I suppose..)

Henry is clearly checking out the thugs who invade his home in the final season episode 'A New Darkness, Part II'.

Also cute how Henry & Ray finish each other's sentences. Five years of working together probably gave them couple telepathy.

An 18-year old Henry manages to tie up Ray (for reasons of restraint) in the musical episode.

Wasn't a particularly sexy moment, but still it must feel pretty good for a sidekick to come into that kind of power!

From occasional show glimpses, it looks like Jace wears briefs or boxer briefs.

R107 Dan could probably tell you for sure, down the brand and size (well, until Jace finished puberty :/)

The musical episode genuinely has some fine vocal writing and bookwork, I'm shocked. Jace & Cooper sing really well together, perfectly harmonising--their duet in their car ('You're Captain Man/Bro') is my favourite song of the episode.

Frankie Grande also performs wonderfully, especially when it comes to choreo and movement. It's odd he doesn't get more stage work and sitcom work. That said, referring to the previous post, it does bother me that the way his sister was treated by Schne!der and Nickelodeon doesn't seem to bother him at all. Isn't he disturbed or upset by that, even a little? Perhaps he squared it away by rationalising that he didn't join 'Henry Danger' as a character until Dan left/got fired...

[quote] From occasional show glimpses, it looks like Jace wears briefs or boxer briefs.

Looks like boxer briefs, to me.

Or mabye nothing underneath.

You'll probably have to ask his boyfriend, to know for sure.

'It's not about 'feeling good', it's all about integrity'

Alright, who hurt Jace and broke his sweet tender heart?

Interesting at R113... he wrote "Be a MAN of your word."

I wonder who he's talking about?

Do you think Jace could have a crush on Cooper?

It's interesting that Cooper is straight, and Jace's sexuality is unknown.

All those years, working with this attractive, well-built, funny older man.

Maybe he has a thing for Cooper that is causing him to be depressed.

I can totally see it.

Cooper was a big part of his life, during his formative years.

R115 aww man, that would be so sad and heartbreaking if true.

If Jace is gay or bi, then yes, being that close to a handsome, caring, fit and attentive mature man almost every day of your adolescent life, only to have to 'graduate' and then let go of him almost totally so he can return to his straight family must be torture. The way Jace & Cooper interact irl is very flirtatious and 'coupley' at times, whether intentional or not, so obviously there's potential there even if it remains unspoken or unexplored.

And even if Jace is straight or never had (or acknowledged he had) deep romantic/sexual feelings for Cooper, to let go of a platonic bond that became so close and familiar and entrenched would still be really hard emotionally. For six whole formative years, young sensitive Jace was entitled to a large percentage of Cooper's time and attention (albeit for a paycheck), and then suddenly that stopped dead one day. Anyone would take it hard.

While there seem to be several major factors causing Jace personal plight--career insecurity, working environment, family dynamics, natural predisposition, etc.--it's not difficult to imagine that losing touch with Cooper may have hurt him. And it might be why he still insists on working as a part of production on 'Danger Force' and still wants to make a 'Henry Danger' movie.

You expressed exactly what I was thinking about their relationship, R116.

Their dynamic and chemistry is what made the show work.

^ugh now i'm having hurt/comfort Coopace and Henray feels :(

Cooper hugs look soooooooo warm and firm and nice

R115 it seems like Frankie Grande has a little crush on Cooper, too, but without any intensity or expectation or heavy feelings involved. Frankie flirts with Cooper a lot on-set, behind-the-scenes and in shoots. Hey, might as well shoot your shot right?

The end of R109 (the musical episode) has a funny innuendo: when Captain Man/Ray goes to punch Frankini out but finds he cannot because of Frankini's musical curse. When the fist coming at Frankini doesn't connect. Frankini giggles, smiles, and teases Ray, "does this happen often?" (Ray replies, furious, "I think you know it doesn't!" while Henry to one side just looks nonplussed).

This is an unexpected Shipping for me.

I never paid much attention to Cooper Barnes, but I always found Jace attractive.

Now, the thought of them together as a daddy/son couple is so HOT.

As if I didn't waste enough time online already, now I have more to do!

[quote] Who is the "blond guy" from Stranger Things that Jace was crushing on at [R93]?

Jace tweeted that in 2017, which is when 'Stranger Things' season 2 aired. The only new character in that season who was a blond male and not either a senior or a little kid was the antiheroic bad boy Billy, played by Dacre Montgomery.

So Jace has a thing for denim-jacketed drifters with sad eyes and pouts.....good to know.

Cooper & Jace are so touchy-feely when they're together. And they're constantly cracking each other up with dirty flirty comments.

INTERVIEWER: Jace, why are you the most lovable [person, between Jace & Cooper]?

JACE: I just feel like, in general, I just have more youth on [Cooper], you know what I mean...

COOPER: Mmm hmmm. (beat) So, "more youth ON me"?

JACE: Yeah, yeah...*double-takes, makes eye contact and starts giggling*

Cooper is Jace's fave...

R124 at 1:35 when Cooper gently admonished Jace "keep your hands to yourself" and pushed his touch away...on the one hand, what a responsible decent man he is to enforce respectful physical boundaries (especially in an environment like Nick, known for endangering minors) and show decorum at work, but, on the other hand, poor Jace in that moment was frustrated and just wanted to feel Daddy's warm chest for some comfort..

Mmmm... Captain Man!

HOT.

Some pictures of Jace, both real and fake.

[quote] Henry played " Trick Boy" with a plunging neckline.

Haha R89.

That episode was hilarious.

For no reason at all, I googled "Trick Boy" and this is the first thing that came up on the search.

I think that whoever said the writers knew what they were doing, were right.

There was definitely a gay undercurrent to the characters.

My God, r101. You're obsessed.