I never knew that.
Does it address whether or not she killed Michael Douglas at the end of the first one.
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I never knew that.
Does it address whether or not she killed Michael Douglas at the end of the first one.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 6, 2022 5:29 AM |
yes. I had a client who wrote it and she got a razzie for it. She was a cunt and deserved it IMO
No idea about the plot as I refused to watch it
by Anonymous | reply 1 | January 4, 2022 5:15 AM |
It wasn’t very good but Sharon flashed her vag yet again.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 4, 2022 5:21 AM |
It was mentioned that Michael Douglas died.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | January 4, 2022 5:24 AM |
The women wrote Desperately Seeking Susan too r1. I thought that was well done. Looks like this ended her career.
Was she tricked into it again this time too r2?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 4, 2022 5:25 AM |
^did she have multiple personalities?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 4, 2022 5:26 AM |
It didn’t work as a thriller because there was no mystery as to who the killer was. Stone embarrassed herself.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 4, 2022 5:28 AM |
The sex in this movie was so tame it was laughable. I watched it as a horny teen wanting to get off to David Morrisey but got nothing worth wanking over.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 4, 2022 5:42 AM |
She was batshit crazy. 10 page emails about nonsense . Her husband was relatively successful too and they split their time on the coasts. I really wanted to ask about the sequel, but chickened out. Hated her.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 4, 2022 5:47 AM |
I actually didn't hate this movie. Stone looked, er, stoned through most of it. Her dialogue was really crude in this one, online the original where Catherine was snappy and flirtatious. She just didn't seem like Catherine Tramell to me in this one. Looked like Stone had a tit job before this movie because her tits looked bolted on in this movie and her nude scenes were filmed awkwardly.
David Morrissey was hot, though.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 4, 2022 6:01 AM |
r8 were you her writing agent? Or like a real estate agent or some other kind.
10 page emails? yikes. Crazy lady!
by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 4, 2022 6:17 AM |
Few fun things about this movie. Hollywood thought the script was fine, good even. If the co-writer's agent or manager is on here, Im sure he or she would confirm they work off this (when the script was delivered and made the rounds, not after the film was released). The script was considered a success and the movie was moving forward.
The movie was financed internationally. Sharon Stone took a $14 mil pay or play deal that gave her approval over the leading man. Then she refused to approve any of the leading men who were willing to play second banana to Sharon Stone in a money grab sequel. Too clever by half. The movie was in limbo for a few years and then she was basically forced into doing it or she was going to have to return the money, which was likely long gone. I'm sure by then some of the financing had fallen away so there was no money to buy a male lead (or have any real action scenes).
Sony had a domestic distribution deal that forced them into releasing it into 1400 theaters or more. The movie was hot garbage and Sony ended up PAYING THEATERS to show the movie so that they would hit 1400 on opening weekend to fulfill their obligations--tracking must have been abysmal. They spent to the dollar whatever the minimum advertising buy was that the contract required. It opened at #10 that weekend
by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 4, 2022 6:58 AM |
i'm r11 and meant to say "the writers got work off of this".
I rented it on DVD when it came out and watched a few of the deleted scenes. The director favored the complicated crime plot over the therapy sessions where we learn Catherine's backstory and what makes her tick. There's actually an amazing scene where she describes the experience that connected sex and death for her. (She lost her virginity to a female cousin who died later that day in an accident).
Only other thing to watch for is that she had too much work done in proximity to filming. Her face work hasn't settled and she looks different depending on the angle and lighting (which is often old lady glamour/gauze lighting).
by Anonymous | reply 12 | January 4, 2022 7:04 AM |
She must be a total dumbass to dilly-dally on the sequel. She was in her early 30s during the first movie, and every year after that it would get harder to be nude-scene-ready. Also, the publicity heat from the original had faded entirely.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 4, 2022 7:18 AM |
R11 thanks for the insight. I knew the sequel was in "development hell" but didnt realise Sharon herself held it up so much.
Any idea who the leading men were she turned down?
by Anonymous | reply 14 | January 4, 2022 10:22 AM |
Wow, guys, only one link/photo on this whole thread. Weak. I forgot this movie existed too. I can't believe no one has mentioned her stringy hair yet.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 4, 2022 10:46 AM |
It did have a bit of a European feel to it with the international funding, the set design, and certain cast members like Charlotte Rampling (who was fun in a small role). I agree it needed to be way more snappy and actually sexy though, especially considering this aesthetic.
Stone carries it though. It's not an amazing movie but still very watchable. Hollywood needs to bring back the sex thriller as a genre.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 4, 2022 11:27 AM |
There was a story at the time that her scenes had to be filmed line by line as she couldn't remember them because of her brain issues.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 4, 2022 12:28 PM |
This movie didn't seem like a sequel to Basic Instinct to me at all but instead its own stand-alone story which wasn't the worst thing in the world. I remember not hating this movie but the ending is pretty terrible.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 4, 2022 12:43 PM |
R14 I think one of them was Benjamin Bratt
by Anonymous | reply 19 | January 4, 2022 1:08 PM |
[quote]There was a sequel to Basic Instinct?
Yes, "Basicer Instinct."
by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 4, 2022 1:10 PM |
It was actually called "Basic Outstinct" at one stage of development hell.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 4, 2022 1:14 PM |
Sounds more like Basic Stink to me.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 4, 2022 1:56 PM |
Would Ben Bratt show his pinga?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 5, 2022 6:50 AM |
R14 I think Robert Downey Jr would have done it but couldn't get insured....or he didn't want to star 2nd banana. I remember some journalist wrote about the names that turned it down but here's the thing about Hollywood, then and now. You don't need a list. There's 3 major agencies and a few mini majors. The role was open. The movie was financed. The script was good (enough). The only list that we don't know about was the list she approved. Which probably had less than 10 names on it and every single one of them turned it down. (I remember Kurt Russell being one).
There were probably 100 names thrown at her that would be willing to do it (TV actors like Benjamin Bratt) and she either pretended to be potentially interested before doing meetings/readings and then turning them down. or she just turned them down. Once it was clear no major actor would play the role, she had no intention of doing it. For all we know, she had good reasons. Someone above mentioned brain issues. Time went by, she got older. But she was forced into doing it and I believe had already been paid. She was probably informed by her lawyers if it went to court, she would lose the $14 mil plus legal fees that might have wiped her out. She had no power in this situation unlike A list stars who drop out of movies at the last minute and the agencies and studios make it work (the agencies push other talent into doing projects for the studio and make some other movies happen that might not have hooked an A+ star or director otherwise). She had no power to get out of it other than to return the money. It's possible she didn't even have the same agency/manager/lawyers at the time she signed the contract, so she'd have had to cover those losses too (otherwise they'd probably return the money voluntarily, although a cost benefit analysis might have led them to say to Stone--"we're not returning that fee, go to another agency if you dont like it") .
The producer (his initials are A.V.) would internationally finance movies and pocket a nice chunk of the budget. The director of one of his 90s movies, who understood line item budgets, told me 20% of the budget was not put into the film he made. So he had every reason to push forward, he needed to pay his investors back, probably spent less than $20 mil on actual production, and then pocketed a $2-4 mil producing fee plus upwards of $5mil that went into his pocket.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 5, 2022 8:06 PM |
Andrew Vajna. Why so coy?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 5, 2022 8:25 PM |
[quote]Hollywood needs to bring back the sex thriller as a genre.
Once the internet became a common part of peoples' lives and everybody could get hardcore porn in two seconds, that was the end of the sex thriller. There was no longer any need for it.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 5, 2022 8:46 PM |
Not her writing agent. I was a designer for her. In regard to her 10 page emails, I think cracked open a magnum after 11 pm and just had at it.
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