Betty white and lucille ball

I guess your country has expelled Google…

They were on Password together.

[quote]I guess your country has expelled Google…

And capitalization, R1.

Lucille was Betty’s great grandfather OP.

Betty looked up to her as she preceded her a bit. They were about 11 years apart in age, but they knew each other.

Lucy wanted one of those sexy, sassy shows like Three's Company or The Golden Girls. But all she got was the juvenile Life With Lucy.

Then she died.

Eve Harrington and Margo Channing.

Lucy and Betty had radio shows at roughly the same time in the late 1940s, and they both had sitcoms centering on a husband and wife pair in those early days of television.

r6 I thought Lucille objected to The Golden Girls' off-color humor

betty, Lucille, Carole (and bert convoy)

Lucy seems sort of slow

Who would have thought back then that Betty would end up the bigger, more universally loved icon? It’s what happens when one knows how to pivot expertly and adapt her comedy to the times while the other refuses to change her brand of comedy for 40 years.

"Lucy seems sort of slow "

She was probably sort of drunk

R9- I know that Lucille Ball objected to All In The Family and wanted it taken off the air.

Lucy was my FAAAAAN!

Knew each other and at each other’s throats constantly. It wasn’t pretty.

[quote] Who would have thought back then that Betty would end up the bigger, more universally loved icon? It’s what happens when one knows how to pivot expertly and adapt her comedy to the times while the other refuses to change her brand of comedy for 40 years.

A little perspective please, even in the immediate aftermath of this great tragedy. In the history of television, Betty White - whom I loved - is looking up, way up, to Lucille Ball. As she is to Mary Tyler Moore. And to Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

^^Crack is whack.

[Quote]Lucy seems sort of slow

R11 To be fair, Lucy's ass was old here (and probably a little drunk too). She would have been about 76 in this clip (a year before she died). Channing was the next oldest at 67. White and Martin were 66. Convy was the baby of the bunch at 53.

Side Note: I see why the Golden Girls were GAGA over Bert Convy. He was pretty fine!

I’m a big fan too

[quote]A little perspective please, even in the immediate aftermath of this great tragedy. In the history of television, Betty White - whom I loved - is looking up, way up, to Lucille Ball. As she is to Mary Tyler Moore. And to Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

White probably succeeded MTM during her lifetime and, at the very least, had much more exposure leading up to her death than the increasingly frail( and conservative) Moore. As a result White was probably better known among the younger generation. Moore was iconic, but she was never a "national treasure" like Betty.

Without a doubt, White had a better reputation than Ball, although Lucille was also a business woman and there was some discussion a while back about White's behaviour towards her step-children.

Both Ball and White were supportive of the gay community, and MTM spoke out against the Briggs initiative in the 1970's.

Betty for sure

Puhleeze, Lucy practically invented tv. Some DLers are like tweenish girls who think the greatest band/singer is whomever is hot at the moment., whomever is top of mind.

Betty was in everyone's era.

Ball was a ball

[quote] Betty was in everyone's era.

Do you believe the history of television is nigh? If you don't, Betty will be as remembered by future generations much like Johnny Carson is(n't).

OP = Darfur Orphan, who must have found a grain of rice to have the energy to post this thread.

But there's no excuse for the poor capitalization.

Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Oh, dear.

[quote]Do you believe the history of television is nigh?

oh, dear

How the fuck you gonna oh dear someone without capitalization and punctuation?

[quote] oh, dear

oh, dear

[quote]How the fuck you gonna oh dear someone without capitalization and punctuation?

one, I've got punctuation. Two, the phrase quoted is nonsense, bad usage, crap

R26, What?? I did use the past tense "was," not the future "will be."

Capisce?

R32, context is key. Your post was in the context of which of these two grand dames of television will be better remembered in the overall history of television.

those who forget history will be condemned to repeat it

[quote]betty, Lucille, Carole

CAROLE? Carole King?

R33, Try again...not.

The CONTEXT IS THE OP.

The OP asks: "Were they [Betty White and Lucille Ball] in the same era?"

My post r26---which references no numbered post and thus is understood to refer to the OP---"answers" that.

NOW capisce??

Correction: I mean my post r24.

BUT to answer within YOUR context, r33:

It is and has been eminently obvious that Lucille Ball, who has been both the star and the subject of movies big screen and small, will be remembered as the icon she is.

Betty White, though a staple of Sit-coms as a superb ensemble eactress, was not (but for one long-ago and brief show) their main star. It's highly doubtful that she will be the subject of a movie. She has no memorable physical attributes, such as Lucy's red hair. No memorable schtick, like Lucy's "Waaaah!"

I would say that BW is known for ephemeral one-liners, whereas LB is known for her shows, episodes, and even particular scenes.

Just because they were women in television doesn't mean they merit any head to head comparison.

R36 et al., you were right & I was wrong. My apologies.

Betty and Lucille were friends. And their mothers were actually close friends. Both had moved to California when their daughters became well known.

[quote] one, I've got punctuation.

But nothing about capitalization? And what punctuation? How about an exclamation point of a period at least?

[quote]Two, the phrase quoted is nonsense, bad usage, crap

On this we can agree, except it would appear your period key broke.

[quoteBut nothing about capitalization? And what punctuation? How about an exclamation point of a period at least?

only a comma is necessary and as far as capitalization, how's this:

FUCK YOU

Only on DL does a catfight break out about grammar and punctuations -- in a Betty White and Lucille Ball thread, no less!

if pasta and cake baking can do it, BETTY WHITE CAN DO IT

[quote] only a comma is necessary

How the fuck do you end your sentences?