Proposed New York City Skyscraper Would Be First Built By Black Americans

It looks ominous and threatening. Like it's going to fall over. And it's upside-down? Love it!

Looks atrocious. You spend a decent amount of time hoping for race-baiting replies, OP - based on your other posts.

They can't even sell the office space they have now.

[quote]Called Affirmation Tower.

Terrible name! People will just refer to it as Affirmative Action Tower.

Noooooooo!!

Americans obsession with race is beffudling.

I love a Big Black Cantilever.

So they want to make it the tallest building in the world as a way of feeling like they outdid the white race? Surely there are more productive ways to express that, like putting money where it is actually needed.

Why are African Americans the only minorty group constantly pandered to? What about Latinos? There are more Latinos in America than AAs, yet you wouldn'tbelieve it based on tv characters, movie characters etc.

Sounds racist to me. Could you even imagine the outrage if white developers built a skyscraper overtly specifying that white tenants only would be considered for occupancy?

It’s backward.

r9 because of something called slavery which happened... the generational trauma and then being second class citizens for the first half of the 20th century is the kind of trauma which seeps down to the generations who never experienced it firsthand. They will always feel apart and singled out, and there's nothing anyone can do to bring closure to that. This is why we have so many persecution rituals now, and spaces on twitter where black people can congregate in their loathing of white people even though they know they have to co-exist with them. The divide is permanent and forever.

Just overturn the 1964 civil rights act already. Blacks obviously prefer segregation, let them have it.

R12 is nihilistic. If you believe that, anarchy isn't far behind.

5 million slaves at the end of the Civil War from which have descended some 40 million "victims" today. The magic of compounding interest.

Step 1: Post race-baiting thread

Step 2: Get sockpuppets to post how "racist" and "pandering" it is

Step 3: ??? (underpants?)

Step 4: Profit!

Generational trauma it say R12…

Sure, asking what's pretty on a gay board is like catnip, but expecting the queens to tease out a racial component before commenting, well that's just genius trolling pure and simple.

Horrible looking idea, absolutely fine idea. Next.

Fine idea?

[quote]Proposed New York City Skyscraper Would Be First Built By Black Americans

[quote]So they want to make it the tallest building in the world as a way of feeling like they outdid the white race?

Are African-Americans good builders? Architect is not a field that black people tend to dominate like, say, athletics. And they don't have the constitution to undertake such laborious projects.. They don't like hard labor, in general, so good luck trying to find an all-black construction crew.

Also, will they be the actual workers, too, 'cause blacks in general tend to have a fear of heights. Whites (who love rock climbing, sky diving, storm chasing, etc.) tend to be more fearless by comparison. And adventurous. That is why they conquered the world.

Sorry, I meant horrible looking design. The idea is great... why shouldn't black entrepreneurs put their capital to work as they prefer and try to do something effective in the process.

R21, before I F&F you I'll offer you once chance to admit that was trolling for purpose that backfired.

Otherwise, holy fuck. Where are you posting from? Alabama in 1929?

Have you tried fish oil, R22?

Black businesses for only blacks? Okay. Great idea. We’ve come so far. So progressive.

r14 I'm sorry it makes you uncomfortable but it's just the cold hard truth of the matter. They generally hate white people. The best thing you can do is not try to pander to black people by aping their talking points but just be decent in your own life and relate to a black person on an individual personal basis, then you will find that you develop a real relationship with them. That is the key to all of this. Not white guilt trips.

Interesting - took a look at R 21's other posts and, surprise - very racist.

Blocked it and half the posts disappeared.

Correct R26.

I’m not blocking anybody.

If they build it on CP time it will never get finished!

If they want to make a statement . . .

[quote]5 million slaves at the end of the Civil War from which have descended some 40 million "victims" today. The magic of compounding interest.

Yeah, because the intervening years were so easy for the descendants of those slaves.

Ugly as sin, and another nail on the coffin of NYC.

Interesting - so it's only the same 2 people making the racist comments over and over - good to know, actually

^Pol-Pot

It looks anti-white. This is obviously the intention. "Hmm...how can we design a structure that is the opposite of normal white architecture?"

You want to see it fall over. Maybe somebody can push it. Onto the architect.

[quite] Are African-Americans good builders?

Builders are the people who hire everyone.

A builder is not an architect or a construction professional: they are financial professionals working in the construction field.

OMG. The drawing looks like the building is supposed to topple over.

Architects are running out of ideas as they try to be different and original.

This will never happen.

Unless you can make it the world's tallest, why bother? Trump wanted his Chicago building to be the tallest, but he chickened out after 9-11

Isn't Hudson Yards ugly enough?

New York deserves something like this.

No comments about “woke” this and “woke” that? You’re slipping OP and your various sock puppets who reply.

[quote]Like it's going to fall over. And it's upside-down

I'm not gonna say nuthin'

At least when it falls it will go in the river. Maybe they’ll make a bridge out of it then.

I don’t know if it doesn’t qualify because of its height but the NC Mutual Tower in Durham was the tallest black-owned building America for quite awhile.

R9, Latinos can be black Americans you stupid ass, uneducated dolt. Latino is not a race.

I'm actually quite impressed. People think that Black accomplishments are a joke, but I like how the lead developer wants to create a space that'll showcase the strengths and talents of Blacks, women, and other minorities.

[Quote]The project’s lead developer is Peebles Corp., a New York City-based real-estate company run by Don Peebles. The firm’s founder and CEO, Peebles is one of America’s most esteemed Black developers. Peebles Corp. landed on the  BE 100s, an annual list of  the top Black-owned businesses in the nation.

[Quote]Peebles is supposedly working with some leading Black architects, developers, builders, and lenders on the project.  They include architect Sir David Adjaye, Cheryl McKissack Daniel, president and CEO of New York-based McKissack & McKissack, and Craig Livingston, managing partner at Exact Capital, a New York-based majority Black-owned real estate development firm.

[Quote]The Wall Street Journal reported Peebles stated he hopes the project provides an economic boost and new opportunities for minority- and female-owned businesses. “We want to make this a symbol of the great potential that America offers to all of us.”

Well we're movin' on up!

Black owned businesses serving only blacks is impressive?

Looks awful.

I don't understand why the developers thought a building that immediately makes people feel uneasy and like there's impending danger would be a good idea to represent Black entrepreneurship. It seems like a terrible metaphor. I don't think they thought this through.

R27 how is that possible when I've only posted twice. My first was R4 and my second was R21.

At any rate, I understand that my comments may seem offensive to American 'progressives' who don't believe that there are differences between the races. (Or even the sexes.) But the fact is, in general, white people are more adventurous/daring, and black people tend to dominate basketball/track/marathons.

I'm with R41. I don't see this materializing with an all-black crew. Black Americans aren't generally conscientious and often lack work ethic.

So who’s going to pay for the discrimination lawsuit when a white guy applies to the construction union?

It's part of Kamala's spending $8.7 billion!

[quote] I like how the lead developer wants to create a space

An empty space filled with what, R50?

[quote]Proposed New York City Skyscraper Would Be First Built By Black Americans

That's no excuse for why it is upside down.

Did you mix them up and intend "bizarro"?

It's because they're black that no one will tell them they've got the blueprints upside-down.

Heyoooooo!^

So many appalling generalisations here in this thread

So when completed with that building attack all the other smaller defenseless Asian buildings in the area?

Will it be Section 8 housing?

We'll be moving Tha Help Centah into the ground floor.

R48 That 'tower' is a sensible size.

The OP's proposal is a disaster waiting to happen.

I reckon this Black Tower will become a 'White Elephant'.

HA-HA - YES! ^

Pride Goeth Before a Fall.

R10 Stop playing dumb. You pretend this hasn’t happened before. Trump’s claim to fame was specifically excluding black people from his new apartments and properties.

You guys should look up Seneca Village.

It was the first founded black neighborhood in New York City and had the highest rates of black homeowners, who could finally vote because you had to be a homeowner if you wanted to vote and be black.

And it was torn down by whites to build Central Park to compete with the aesthetics of France.

But the irony here at DL is, they mock and complain when black people don’t build anything and now that black people want to build something, they mock and complain.

It just shows it’s all racism and hatred.

R55 Stop being a racist moron. Black people helped build America. There was slavery and heavy labor jobs to black people for hundreds of years. Black people built buildings, towns, skyscrapers, railroads, highways, etc. if you think it was all white people, you’re simply retarded.

[quote] Black people built buildings, towns, skyscrapers,

The OP's proposal is an inverted skyscraper.

The building is Upside Down.

Figures. Thanks for saving me a read through r72.

R76 And the most these old white queens built up in here was bad credit. But they’ll talk shit about black people all day and I know most of them are in squalor.

This idea is asking for Trouble.

It order for it to be fully black it needs to be totally funded by blacks: Kanye, Oprah, Aliko Dangote.

Seriously, they wanted to showcase black power and THAT was what they came up with? What they SHOULD do is find a way to design a skyscraper in the shape of a giant, rock hard, black dick. Now that would be a real statement. It could even "ejaculate" once a day all over the rest of the city or something. I wish I had any kind of photo editing skills to provide concept art, but you will all just have to visualize it with me.

What could go wrong?

"Affirmation Tower" Rolls eyes. What a corny name.

This thing will never get built but if it should, expect a shit-show.

Meanwhile there IS a skyscraper (residential) finishing up in Manhattan by David Adjaye from Ghana.

The guy is dignified and doesn't need pandering to.

[quote] because of something called slavery which happened... the generational trauma and then being second class citizens for the first half of the 20th century is the kind of trauma which seeps down to the generations who never experienced it firsthand.

Jews had it a million times worse. Cut the shit. They were enslaved, exterminated, kicked out of nearly every country, were not allowed to worked, were starved, etc, yet they made it. Enough already.

[quote] because of something called slavery which happened... the generational trauma and then being second class citizens for the first half of the 20th century is the kind of trauma which seeps down to the generations who never experienced it firsthand.

Jews had it a million times worse. Cut the shit. They were enslaved, exterminated, kicked out of nearly every country, were not allowed to work, were starved, etc, yet they made it. Enough already.

[quote] Stop being a racist moron. Black people helped build America.

They didn’t make the blueprints, dear. They did as they were told.

Don Peebles? Sounds like a pimp.

[quote] What could go wrong?

It could fall over and kill 1,633 people.

I was going to say, r85, and this is vicious, but whenever I hear that "black people built America," all I can think of is that they basically contributed as much as plow horses or oxen did. They did the brute labor (at least they did in the South, immigrants did it in the North), but none of the planning, designing, running, etc.

Acknowledge the evils of slavery all you want, but to sit there and completely re-write history just to give black people some kind of feel-good story is ridiculous and helps nobody.

From OP's article:

[quote] Called Affirmation Tower, the 90-story skyscraper on Manhattan’s West Side would reportedly be the Western Hemisphere’s tallest skyscraper to date

Then a few paragraphs down in the same article:

[quote] the Affirmation Tower would be the second-tallest building in New York City

LOL @ "Affirmation Tower"

It's hideous and looks dangerous and unsafe.

And the name for it is ridiculous pandering.

That tower does not look safe.

I hope and pray that the people who review such things for building codes and safety were actually able to review it rather than needing to rubber stamp it due to the optics of the situation.

[quote] name for it is ridiculous pandering

as ridiculous as The Miami Diversity Bridge which collapsed.

How many liquor stores, nail salons and wig stores will the building house?

That tower looks EXTREMELY UNSAFE.

It is teetering.

r94 She looks more architecturally sound than the tower!

r73 in the Northeast it was the paddys and wops who built everything.

Why it gotta be white?

White fragility is very real.

This thread is proof of it.

America was built on the backs of The Chinese!

May Affirmation topple onto the wicked witch^.

Get fucked, r98.

Well-engineered tall Buildings require strong foundations.

America was built on the backs of The Yugoslavs!

White people are threatened anytime black people try to contribute anything to American society. And it's once again coming from "white liberals" not surprisingly.

But whenever there's an election, they're always worried about if black people will vote or not, because "white gays" want their LGBTQ rights protected. That's the only reason they care if black people show up to vote.

It's also exactly why Pete buttigieg will never be president. Not with that racist past he has in Southbend as mayor. Good luck with getting Latinos to show up, because they're moving over to the republican party fast.

I'm putting the link to this thread on Twitter.

Librel my ass!

R89, they need a white guilt story to run. This calls for lying and revision.

[quote] White people are threatened anytime black people try to contribute anything to American society.

Oh, honey, it’s white peoples who bend over backwards for these idiots.

R104 is an angry black retard.

R104 is probably an angry white dyke.

[quote] America was built on white criminality

Then leave, r98, or are you happy being an accomplice? You’re on an American-made web site.

R107 if you say so, the truth hurts. White Americans love to hate black people, no matter what's going on.

If good or bad, white people will always find a reason to cut black people down, it never fails.

R104 is a white gay guy.

Racists, like anti-choicr people are always unfuckably ugly.

I like the building

First off, it’s a proposal. Second, the article is full of lies. Third, the web site is for and about blacks. This is never going to happen.

R109 The truth hurts doesn't it?

[quote] If good or bad, white people will always find a reason to cut black people down, it never fails.

Yes, white people make black people kill one another and ruin their own communities. Yep.

Yes, the truth is you’re a hypocrite, R115.

R114 You don't want it to happen. Even if it's revised. It would be a threat to everything you hold near and dear in America.

[quote] How many liquor stores, nail salons and wig stores will the building house?

Do they accept SNAP?

[quote] as ridiculous as The Miami Diversity Bridge which collapsed.

lmao.

Here's how you do it. Without all the black American nonsense:

R117 No, the truth is white society in the US is chalk filled with hypocrisy. Whenever black people make significant progress, white society gets angry throws a temper tantrum and move the goal post. Because God forbid there's competition. But that's the thing, if we're all "Americans" then there's really no competition, right?

That's where white hypocrisy lies. Just look at your God Trump on January 6th and his cockroach supporters. Can't handle a loss, so they prefer trying to over turn an election they couldn't win.

Again, white fragility is real!

R122–you should really be capitalizing “black”.

I hope they'll have a Popeye's!

What a crock of pure d shit.

R109 And what’s your background? Has your family been in the US for hundreds of years?

The white ones who always say “leave” who have grandparents who’s second language is English.

R6 it’s being foisted on us. Most people aren’t obsessed at all, and get along just fine.

Chalk filled R122?? 🙄

Besides all the black aspects of this building- the building itself is

FUCKIN UGLY

The MIami Diversity Bridge was 175 foot long and killed six innocent people.

This Affirmation Tower is supposed to be 1,633 foot high and could kill 935 innocent people.

R126 Nailed it. It's always the recent white assholes who don't even have roots in America going back centuries telling people they don't like to leave.

Meanwhile, the overwhelming majority of black people in America have roots going back centuries.

That picture at R69 has got a bug in it.

This website is so pathetic now. This is now the primary type of commentary, which is not what the purpose of this site is. This isn’t supposed to be a comment board overflowing with loser incel shitposting ugly racists, posting very low energy comments from whatever shithole they live in in order to make themselves feel better. How depressing. There needs to be a change around here.

R131 My roots are bigger than YOUR roots!

Who needs another empty office building in NYC? Put it somewhere else like Atlanta or Houston.

Will there be a Foot Locker?

Glad to see white people showing who they really are.

I've been proven right again.

It is Insane.

Think of the congestion in that tiny Lift Lobby.

Think of the Emergency Fire Stairwells.

R88 It’s not vicious, it’s simply racist. I never said they came up with the designs, I said they built them and they did.

I'm no heterosexual but a vagina-shaped building is more sensible than a malformed-penis-shaped tower.

R122 Speaking of white hypocrisy, you see how white people come full out to act superior in threads like these but then go to the next MAGA thread and cry about the white trash destroying the country.

What if it is upside-down and they go ahead and build it?

Whites are from Mars, Blacks are from Venus

Much like men vs women, this shit will never be solved until the whites are beaten into submission.

[quote] What if it is upside-down and they go ahead and build it?

But who will pay Reparations?

Kamala is already spending $8.7 billion!

See R57.

R143 Or stop being racist and thinking their skin color makes them better than everybody?

it's so fucking ugly.

there is no demand for this space.

That is the worst design I have ever seen. It looks massively dangerous. I wouldn't want to walk or be in a car or cab within a mile of that monstrosity. Better hope NYC doesn't have another earthquake. More proof that the very rich have way more money than they do brains or talent.

LPSG looks better every day!

Skyscrapers with sensible engineering are skinny at the top and solid at the bottom.

Not Vice Versa.

A lot of things will go wrong with this construction. These days those who work on projects are illegals who don't have the skills and you will all kinds of accidents like panes of glass flying off during windy rain storms. Just a poor, shitty build.

[quote]Latinos can be black Americans you stupid ass, uneducated dolt. Latino is not a race.

He means Mayans, Incans and Aztecs.

Incas*

Good for them, also, 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

While we're here.... a really nice-looking Manhattan luxury residential high rise designed by black (British) architect David Adjaye. It's solid and distinctive, nice materials, I really like it.

To the philistines commenting on how it looks unsafe, there are people called structural engineers that make sure it won’t be. The building will not, and can not, be built until it is proven to be structurally safe. There are also these amazing materials called steel and concrete that allow for this type of construction to be completed without the building ‘falling over’. Oh and the year is 2021.

$100 Million Skyscraper condominium was to be opened in 2008.

The building began to have settling problems and sunk as much as 14 inches.

It had to be destroyed.

It looks like a knobkierrie, an African bludgeon.

Knobkierries aren't as ugly as Mursi Plates

what an eyesore

It certainly is an ugly building.

That said, many of the racist comments here come from jealous insecure people who probably aren't architects. Womp, womp.

Racists!!!

Finally, I got it. It’s the black power salute!

R161 Yes, we architects are among the most liberal and enlightened thinkers.

Agree, R164.

[quote] jealous insecure people who probably aren't architects.

The Genius versus The Mobocracy.

I hear you R141

Why tempt fate?

R12: "They will always feel apart and singled out, and there's nothing anyone can do to bring closure to that."

Tell that to freakin' Oprah, Gayle, Tyler Perry, Robert Smith, David Steward, Aliko Dangote, Bob (BET) Johnson, Daymond John, and the others on this list.

Not everyone is a PROFESSIONAL VICTIM.

White people are true haters, it's in their blood. They hate on all fronts, no matter whatbit is. Success, ethnicity, wealth, fame, it doesn't matter.

I'm truly starting to become convinced that white people are inherently racist. So far throughout out history, that's been the case.

White America is so good at hatred. Hitler and his Nazi's we're sitting back in the 30s watching and looking at America's jim crow laws and got ideas from what they witnessed.

There's no other system on the face of the planet that has perfected racism the way America has. Spike Lee said this very thing last summer (2020) during an interview he did with the BBC across the pond, during the George Floyd protests taking place across the world. He was right. No one does racism like America. America has racism down to a science.

That will ultimately lead to the world destructive violent catastrophic end. That will be the legacy of white racism.

Nothing has been able to fix the problems of relations between whites and blacks in the US. Things have only gotten worse over the decades no matter how much money and effort is expended to make things better. And now the entire country is wobbling because of it. I think you're wrong, R171. There are many, many Americans who would say they are not yet racist. What can be done in your opinion?

[quote] What can be done in your opinion?

Don't ask questions nor expect a positive reply.

The building looks like a table leg.

It's a Cabriole Leg

[quote] Americans obsession with race is beffudling.

Do you know who’s obsessed with race? AMERICANS.

Do you know who else is obsessed with race? EVERYBODY.

The NYPD will have a precinct on the ground floor

Slavery and Jim Crow has forever destroyed America. The US government made a huge mistake by compromising with the south in 1877. You don't compromise with terrorist, you use force to get them in line to make the country fair and do what's necessary to make things right with the people that have been wronged. And the Confederates should've all been hung and executed and not allowed to continue to live life as though they never tried to destroy the country. They should've been executed to deter others from ever thinking of doing the same thing.

This country made so many stupid mistakes after Slavery and the end of the civil war. And we only have white male incompetence to think for that.

[quote]I 'm truly starting to become convinced that white people are inherently racist. So far throughout out history, that's been the case.

If you feel that way, then I would invite you to purchase tickets to see my brilliant award-winning play about the very topic. You sound enlightened ( much like I am) and would appreciate my themes and portrayals of the inherent racism present in every white person. But tickets now and spread the gospel.

shouldn't this go into a black neighborhood like Harlem?

[quote]I 'm truly starting to become convinced that white people are inherently racist. So far throughout out history, that's been the case.

You think whites are racist about blacks? You must not know any Asians or Arabs. Holy shit they are on a whole other level.

If you want a statement skyscrapers don't also make it a postmod gimmicky one. Black folks won't support this weirdness, at any rate. So who is it for?

[quote]So who is it for?

Foreign scumbags to launder their ill-gotten $$$$.

[quote] So who is it for?

1. For the Virtue-Signallers

2. For Kamala (see R57)

3. For those who think they're geniuses (see R161, R167)

4. For those who hate The Mobocracy (see R161, R167

5. For the engineers who will try and fail to provide a stable base for this crazy idea.

R177 Are you condemning us all for having a basic human instinct?

Are you saying we are wrong to love our family more than someone else's?

How about something like this?

Apocalyptic thinking, R179, and bloodyminded. Bloodyminded thinking in 1860 might have lead to deportation all the slaves as a more economical and humane solution to slavery than an all-out civil war. Instead we squared up to the South and fought and whooped them real good. Would you have us flay the soles of their feet, too, and rub salt in their wounds?

How about we make 2022 the Year of the Hispanic American? I’m ready to move on from the white/black thing. It’s gotten very tiresome. We can always return it in 2023 and Hispanics as a voting group are more important now anyway.

[quote] I was to say, [R85], and this is vicious, but whenever I hear that "black people built America," all I can think of is that they basically contributed as much as plow horses or oxen did. They did the brute labor (at least they did in the South, immigrants did it in the North), but none of the planning, designing, running, etc.

We wouldn't know what Blacks actually contributed to America because that which is not intentionally obscured is lost to history. For centuries, every example of Black ingenuity and innovation has been appropriated, misattributed and/or painstakingly removed from historical record. Black men designed and built much of New Orleans in the 19th century and early 20th century. However ascribing any act of intellect, creativity, resourcefulness or valor to enslaved Blacks would only emphasize the moral corruption and depravity of the whites who held them as chattel slaves.

Yes, R190, sadly this all too true.

R189 go tell every black democratic voting person that in 2022 and watch Republicans take full control of everything.

Black people are going to hear they're not important one to many times and stop voting. Democrats better be careful with that, trying to pit the two groups against each other.

Since Latinos are more important, maybe they should be the ones to carry the democratic torch then. Good luckbwith that, they love the Republicans. I'm already not voting in the midterms, Democrats don't do what they say. Autocracy is starting to look kinda good to me anyway. Democrats are not serious about voting rights and people see this.

It’s an architectural depiction of bbc

Take the red pill!

[quote] Black men designed and built much of New Orleans in the 19th century and early 20th century.

Were those designs and buildings in any way unique? Are you sure every building and record of them has been destroyed?

[quote] Nothing has been able to fix the problems of relations between whites and blacks in the US. Things have only gotten worse over the decades no matter how much money and effort is expended to make things better. And now the entire country is wobbling because of it. I think you're wrong, [R171]. There are many, many Americans who would say they are not yet racist. What can be done in your opinion?

Race "relations" are less of a problem these days. Black men are impregnating white women at historically high rates. Hip-hop dominates popular music. Blacks are disproportionately represented in television advertising. That part is working itself out. Systemic racism, white supremacy and white fragility are the problem. What can be done to fix it, in your opinion?

You suggest (I think) black and white unions are helping breed the problem of race relations away. I used to think this was the ideal way to go, but it seems like many mixed-race children feel more aggrieved and are angrier than earlier generations. I don't know what the answer is.

Are we forgetting that 99% of the world thought the World Trade Towers were ugly as shit before they were destroyed?

R195, a term search on Google could have saved you some time.

Just make it more penis shaped already.

R199 Those houses in the article don't look in any way unique to me.

And the article says Jean-Louis Dolliole appropriated the style from France.

It should be The Black Live Matter Towers, no white tenants allowed.

Shouldn't the color of this building be BLACK?

R190 I don't consider this to be 'architecture'.

It's like an architectural depiction of a layaway plan.

[quote]Black men designed and built much of New Orleans in the 19th century and early 20th century.

Much of New Orleans? That's bullshit.

Everyone has racial biases. If you were walking down a lonely sidewalk at night. Would you be concerned if a group of young black males were approaching? Damn right you would, and it doesn't matter what race you are.

New Orleans was built before the dates mentioned, above.

R164

Speer was a deluded piece of shit.

And I wasn't implying that architects are enlightened thinkers, just that they tend to be better educated than the racists on this thread (and you know who you are.)

[quote] And what’s your background? Has your family been in the US for hundreds of years?

German, and my family fought in the Revolutionary War. Now kindly sit your welfare ass for , Mary!

[quote] go tell every black democratic voting person that in 2022 and watch Republicans take full control of everything.

Honey, Republicans are going to win because the country is fucking fed up with liberals telling everyone what to think and what to do.

[quote] For centuries, every example of Black ingenuity and innovation has been appropriated, misattributed and/or painstakingly removed from historical record.

Whatever you say, Tyrone. lmao

[quote] You think whites are racist about blacks? You must not know any Asians or Arabs. Holy shit they are on a whole other level.

Blacks loathe Asians and Jews.

[quote] shouldn't this go into a black neighborhood like Harlem?

It’d be destroyed in two seconds.

[quote] Much like men vs women, this shit will never be solved until the whites are beaten into submission.

Then who will cut the welfare checks?

"Affirmation Tower?"

whose idea to name that, it's destined to be trolled as "Affirmative Action Tower!"

[quote]For centuries, every example of Black ingenuity and innovation has been appropriated, misattributed and/or painstakingly removed from historical record.

Oh yeah? What about Wakanda? It's a marvel!

I predict a catastrophe as the hundred of residents try to escape through that tiny foyer.

That tiny foyer will turn into a death-chamber of flames.

[quote] What about Wakanda? It's a marvel!

And there's Diwali as well.

R177 No, not everyone is obsessed with race. The whole world is not America. It's crazy how you all think YOUR History is the History of the entire planet. Slavery has always existed. And slavery begins among black people. But you gloss over that as if it never existed. Slavery continues with the Arabs who commercialized black people.14 centuries of Arab-Muslim slavery and the blacks completely close their eyes on it. America maintains racial conflicts and wants the world to do the same. But you can't see that. Native Americans were decimated by whites, all of you are still occupying THEIR land 500 years later, but you are focused only on blacks and you all are acting as if they are suffering more than anyone else in human history when that is not true. STOP your hypocrisy. NOT everyone in this planet is obsessed with race!!!

R199 The buildings are still very French style. Creole buildings in Guadeloupe or Martinique do not have the same architecture for example.

I've been to NOLA. Where exactly are the haussmannien boulevards, and belle époque and Napoleon III edifices?

High rise, you all.

R222 Yep, Haussman was a huge French architect no creole at all.

So the 90th storey is actually the 60th floor?

I kid I kid

So where is all that 19th C FRENCH architecture in NOLA? The black achitecky Frenchy stuff claimed above? Alors?

It makes me nauseous. I won't go any near it.

Is this where I can buy household help? It would be marvelous if I could also buy things that the coloreds are known for like watermelon, fried chicken, tap shoes, and life-sized sexual health aids for white women in need of “healing”?

Also, will the building smell like cocoa butter, illegitimate children, and rap music? If so, I’ll just send Ruby in because that smell can’t even be rubbed of with the finest soaps from Elizabeth Arden.

Yes, I'm certainly want to be associated with that if I were black. What a shitshow.

[quote] The Peebles Corporation has successfully realized more real estate development through Public-Private Partnerships than other company.

The "public' money they're talking about is the $8.7 billion paid the taxpayers via Kamala's generosity. R57.

R222 LOL In france there are many Architecture styles other than Paris you know and sorry to tell you that but New Orleans was named after Orléans in France by the King of France. The style of New Orleans is not African, is not American, is not Britsih. But you can see the same style in... France!

Lol, r225!

OMG you're so intent on scoring the blackety-black points that you're ignoring your ignoring how out on a limb you went on the French tradition claim. Which is complete bullshit. The only French architecture in the NOLA is the Ursuline Convent. Connasse. NOLA is CREOLE central. Not French style.

"We can smell it."

[quote]I'm already not voting in the midterms

R192 and with that you've revealed your age range and your motivations, which are young and extremely self-centered.

Democrats can't pass major country-changing legislation with razor thin majorities in the House and Senate. There's no special magic thing that Dems can do without those, there's no magic procedural tricks we can use, there will be no voting rights reform, there will be no student loans forgiveness or reform, there will be no police reforms, there will be no billionaire tax, there will be no "court stacking" because we don't have the votes and the only reason we have a majority right now is because Joe Manchin, for whatever reason, is a Democrat in a heavily Republican state. If he wasn't there, the seat would belong to a Republican. And it's why he has so much leverage right now.

If you wanted to help "Democrats do what they say" then you'd fucking vote and give us the majorities we need to do the things you're wanting (I'm guessing student loans forgiveness is the main one)*.

* The reason I am guessing that is because there is a HUGE problem with self-centeredness among the younger generations with "what can you do specifically for MEMEMEMEME???" and a total unwillingness to grasp the bigger picture. Yes, I've seen the pouting and other fools such as yourself having fits on Twitter about how all political parties are the same and everyone lies to get your votes.

Guess what? The youth vote is the reason things are as they are. Because the younger generations can't be bothered to get off their fucking asses and vote. Younger voters are terminally self-centered. You want to know why you aren't getting what you want? Not enough of you are voting and you are EASILY distracted with bullshit by malevolent powers.

Sure, some among you might actually be paying attention to politics, but when you are, it's almost always totally selfish reasons that REALLY motivate you. You aren't going to be protesting the vote because you didn't get voting rights reform or police reforms. No, what motivates you is not fixing the broken student loan/college education system for future generations, but "I WANT MY STUDENT LOAN REPARATIONS AND IF I DON'T GET THEM, WAHHHH!!! YOU'LL BE SORRY!"

R179 calling for genocide and using "might makes right" as a mantra and somehow thinks HE is the righteous, *correct* one.

If you want to carry your thinking a bit further, then consider that the people in power have the most power now because THEY HAVE THE MIGHT. Not you. You want their power? Take it from them by force. Or you're just spouting ill-considered and self-centered philosophy that isn't even grounded and balanced in itself, much less with reality.

Note that I am not calling for this, you are. And some of you wonder why the world is slipping towards authoritarianism and away from democracy. Because of yobs like r179.

Change people's minds. Not through force or imposed dictatorships, but through social engineering.

The people defending this eyesore specifically because it's the brainchild of a black architect are the most obvious racists in the thread. Sometimes people have bad ideas. Doesn't matter what race they are, unless you put race on a pedestal over actual ideas and reasoning. That is racism, btw.

R233 uh, the Creoles of New Orleans were heavily influenced by French and Spanish colonizers. French Creole is a thing, which is New Orleans. It's not just "Creole".

It will never be built, because like math, laws of physics are racist.

Divine inspiration.

[quote] And it was torn down by whites to build Central Park to compete with the aesthetics of France.

It was supposed to compete with the aesthetics of ENGLAND.

It was designed in the style of Capability Brown.

Also, Haussmann was NOT an architect. He was a finance guy (appointed by the only good Napolean) who hoodwinked a lot of Parisian government departments so he could float the bonds that would pay for the water system and some of the new roads of Paris. (As you all know, the actual builders in the "Haussmann" style were private businesspeople who were sold the new lots and given prescriptive styles that they had to follow--roof style, building height, etc.)

R233 An American who wants to give lessons in history lmao. You're really dumb. Where did the Creoles come from? They are the descendants of the slaves French! They speak a mixture of African language and French. They don't speak English. It's impossible in terms of dates and history that the architects were Creole. Louisiana (named after the king of France LOUIS), was a French colony. It's crazy to be so stupid!

In terms of urban planning, most of the ideas came from Napoleon III (the nephew), who wanted to make Paris "the capital of all of Europe", but their execution was the responsibility of Baron Haussmann, who showed an exceptional sense of organization and a great ability to direct men. Haussmann was also a force of proposals. He was responsible for the city's expansion from twelve to twenty districts in 1860. Insofar as the majority of the plans were made by Haussman, and not only the buildings, he was the architect of the project, with the help of many French engineers. Far from confining himself to the question of roadways, Haussmann built borough halls and schools. He also laid out squares and large gardens, of which the Buttes-Chaumont park (1867), the work of engineer Jean-Charles Alphand, is perhaps one of the most beautiful examples. Thus, the Emperor drew up the plan for the new roads intended to relieve the city's congestion and entrusted Haussmann with the construction of no less than 64 kilometers of roads, of which the Avenue de l'Opéra is the most accomplished example.

All these works are colossal and mobilize 80 000 workers, craftsmen, sculptors and ironworkers. 40,000 buildings were constructed, and almost as many were destroyed. They lead to the almost complete disappearance of the medieval city, except for the churches. Far from confining himself to roadwork, Haussmann built district town halls and schools. He also laid out squares and large gardens, of which the Buttes-Chaumont park (1867), the work of engineer Jean-Charles Alphand, is perhaps one of the most beautiful examples.

So yes, Napoleon III was the thinker, and Haussman the one who was in charge of organizing the work. There were no private funds as I read above. Everything was at the expense of the State.

It appears that in their quest to eradicate white supremacy, the left* wants to replace it with black supremacy.

*It's really the radicals, but they're the ones currently running things on the left.

[quote]I was going to say, [R85], and this is vicious, but whenever I hear that "black people built America," all I can think of is that they basically contributed as much as plow horses or oxen did. They did the brute labor (at least they did in the South, immigrants did it in the North).

R88 another thing people don't realize is that the domestics in the north were also mainly European immigrants (e.g., Irish). In the South, they were abundantly black into the 1980s. Nowadays, Latinos seem to be the maids, gardeners, launderers, etc.

Too bad they couldn't come up with a more pleasing design than that horrible looking top heavy monstrosity.

This is a 'proposed' project. Do you know how many proposed skyscrapers never get built. I hope the project does gain approval, but more than that I hope he has financing for the project already locked in. And I hope the city tells him "we'll approve it with a better design".

R244 not so much running things as providing a distraction for the people running things.

I am not a fan of Shvartze Towers…

This guy is black? I have Dutch relatives who are darker than him.

R72, Wrong. The "irony" (not) is that we are making critiques solely about the shape of the proposed building.

The race, ethnicity, creed, country of origin, favorite food, and exercise regimen of the architects and builders are irrelevant.

Their aesthetic sense, however, is fair game.

Yes Creole is French polyglot CULTURE. YES NOLA was a French city in a FRENCH colony. Its simply NOT filled with "French architecture" designed by Black architects. That was my point. Some twat keeps saying the architecture is French style but its not. Its colonial and there isn't a lot of "French" tropical French Colonial.

Yes, r211; we are a nation of two-year-olds.

"NO! I don't WANT TO!"

Oppositional defiance syndrome!

I believe the poster who is saying black architects built NOLA is referring to recent shows and articles such as this one. The point I'm making is this is ALL creole and its influences are very rarely of French design. More often northern European adapted to warm climate - so Georgian, Victorian and Queen Anne. Plus Palladian and Neo Classical. Where is the FRENCH?

It doesn't look like ANY French city in France. Which the twat above claimed many times. Its CREOLE and distinctly American colonial. Trying to catch me out that I don't know it was a French colony is ass-hattery. The Ursuline Convent IS French architecture. Please name another building in New Orleans, that is FRENCH style, and better yet, designed by a black architect.

R256 it sounds like the reason is because fires destroyed most of the original French architecture, and a lot of what's left behind is Spanish/French Creole and Greek revival.

Yeah I'll take that.

There's more French in the colonial architecture in Quebec particularly in the vieille ville where some alleys and squares do resemble vieille villes in French towns.

[quote]another thing people don't realize is that the domestics in the north were also mainly European immigrants (e.g., Irish)

The Irish were commonly known as "the n-----s of Europe."

No way in hell would I live it that. It’s scary!

What is it "affirming" exactly?

R262 The Peebles Company feels very "affirmed" when Laughing Kamala gives him billions

It's brilliant from a design standpoint. You cannot look at the building and not feel some sort of way.

R264 it would make a good art sculpture but not a building.

[quote] feel some sort of way.

You mean some sort of sway.

Towers like this sway in the wind.

This millionaire Skyscraper builder and his lovely wife

[quote] The project’s lead developer is Peebles Corp., a New York City-based real-estate company run by Don Peebles.

Firm noir?

R267 what an ugly dress.

The only actual building that will be done will be by 100 % poorly paid Latinos.

[quote] The only actual building that will be done will be by 100 % poorly paid Latinos.

R270 It looks like Mr Peebles sex work will be done will be by a 100 % white trophy wife.

R242, R243 I'm now beginning to realise— years later— about the Marxist indoctrination from my high school teachers.

They went on at length about the evils of "laissez-fare economics". And they also maintained that the real reason for Georges-Eugène Haussmann demolishing so many houses and making streets was to move the army from one side of the city to the other.

Don Peebles fund raised for Obama, but he was also a fan of Trump.

^ Fat capitalists like Peebles give bribes to both parties and expect favours in return from both parties.

Pritzker donated to Trump too.

Yeah, r260---in the script of "The Commitments."

R263 you are obsessed.

R272 my 5th grade social studies teacher was the opposite; she decried communists and went off on a bizarre rant about Jane Fonda being a traitor (she was old).

R274 or he felt obligated to fundraise for Obama for the obvious reason, but after that anomaly went back to shilling for Republicans.

Does anybody really want a building that looks like it's going to fall over all the time? And in New York? It looks like a mash up tribute to Elaine Stritch and 9/11.

I suppose they will need to get people like this who are foolhardy enough to risk working in this dangerous-looking skyscraper.

R281you mean white people? They're always doing crazy shit like that.

Yes, R282, because black people wouldn't even consider working.

I meant climbing and hanging off tall structures/buildings. That's mainly a white people thing.

R282 and r283 both of you are being racist cunts but that was a pretty hilarious and blistering response, r283. R282 you walked into that - perhaps less casual stupid unwarranted racism is a good idea for you.

The poster upthread talking about how it's white people who build things . . . huge swaths of New York City's skyscrapers were built by Mohawk ironworkers. - descended from generations of same.

I loathe skyscrapers - most of the world's cities are being mutilated by them. But credit where due - take your racist bullshit somewhere else.

^*yes, that means you, R282, you fucking moron. Open a book before you open your mouth, and take a look at that photo of Mohawks working the steel.

So, is this building a top or an insatiable bottom?

Obviously a top.

The literal-mindedness of the younger generations. Zero humor, zero self-awareness, zero grasp of real history, all aggrieved, all unhappy. They can't even stand each other, and for good reason.

If they show any humor, the young SJW women will be triggered and they will be cancelled. Better to be dour and blame everything on the older generations.

The Web has really put the zap on people's brains. On balance, a disaster for humanity. The implications are just starting to play out. Pull the fucking plug already. I'm willing to give up DL, Smart Phones that massage my balls and make pancakes for me, and Chinese on-line merchandise dropped on head by drone. I'm willing to sacrifice all this and more and any number of tech-bro billionaires if it may help salvage our common humanity.

[quote] Proposed New York City Skyscraper Would Be First Built By Black Americans

Betty?

Aren't half of the apartments in those very tall ones empty because it's not as cool as it looks living that way high up there. And this one isn't really a good design, hopefully they reconsider and come up with something less tacky looking.

Fucking skyscrapers are over.

So they scammed over $8 billion from the feds for this? How did I not think of this scheme first.

I saw it required an additional $1.8 billion because they forgot the dirigible mast docking station for Oprah's arrival for the grand opening.

Why don't they take the 8 billion and plow it into schools for poor kids. Feed them well and give them years of good science and maths AND creative education.

science and maths are racist