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Figure skating 2021/22 - Part II

Japanese and Russian Nationals going on this week.

Europeans to start on 10th January if Covid doesn't cancel them.

Dish out

by Anonymousreply 255January 27, 2022 11:17 PM

Sakamoto wins Japanese nationals. Gutted for Mai but she made mistakes.

1 Kaori Sakamoto 234.06

2 Wakaba Higuchi 221.78

3 Mana Kawabe 209.65

4 Mai Mihara 206.86

5 Satoko Miyahara 206.51

6 Rinka Watanabe199.15

by Anonymousreply 1December 25, 2021 12:46 PM

Russian pairs now. Ladies FS follows

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by Anonymousreply 2December 25, 2021 12:48 PM

Kaori’s SP- powerful and fast. I don’t always like watching her, but I really liked this.

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by Anonymousreply 3December 25, 2021 3:19 PM

Hanyu’s SP; I posted a link earlier but the other video was taken down.

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by Anonymousreply 4December 25, 2021 3:22 PM

Shoma’s SP while it lasts; the other video was taken down.

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by Anonymousreply 5December 25, 2021 3:27 PM

Results from Russian Nationals

1 Kamila Valieva 283.48

2 Alexandra Trusova 248.65

3 Anna Shcherbakova 239.56

4 Adeliia Petrosian 233.97 (not Senor eligible)

5 Sofia Samodelkina 233.09 (not Senor eligible)

6 Sofia Muravieva 230.31 (not Senor eligible)

7 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 224.40

__ MEN

1 Mark Kondratiuk 284.37

2 Mikhail Kolyada 283.70

3 Andrei Mozalev 278.28

4 Evgeni Semenenko 274.28

5 Petr Gumennik 267.45

6 Alexander Samarin 264.73

PAIRS

1 Mishina/Galliamov 243.74

2 Boikova/Kozlovskii 239.87

3 Tarasova/Morozov 228.20

4 Pavliuchenko/Khodykin 220.18

5 Artemeva/Nazarychev 213.19

ICE DANCE

1 Stepanova/Bukin 223.37

2 Davis/Smolkin 207.70

3 Khudaiberdieva/Bazin 195.75

4 Morozov/Bagin 195.65

5 Shanaeva/Naryzhnyy 187.19

6 Skoptcova/Aleshin 185.72

Sinitsina/Katsalapov WD after RD because of his back's problems.

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Olympic selection will be announced after European Championships. I see only Men third spot still opne IMO.

Ladies and Pair will be top 3 from Nationals. Dance will be S/K, S/B and D/S.

by Anonymousreply 6December 25, 2021 8:15 PM

Kolyada SP

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by Anonymousreply 7December 25, 2021 10:32 PM

Kondatriuk FS

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by Anonymousreply 8December 26, 2021 9:35 AM

The Pairs

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by Anonymousreply 9December 26, 2021 9:36 AM

Boikova/Kozlovskii

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by Anonymousreply 10December 26, 2021 9:37 AM

Mishina/Galliamov

At Beijing it will be a great battle between M/G, B/K and Sui/Han.

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by Anonymousreply 11December 26, 2021 9:37 AM

R6 I wished Tukt had made it. I won’t even bother watching Eteri’s latest bots - yawn - as their life circle is so short anyway..

by Anonymousreply 12December 26, 2021 10:35 AM

Russian team for Euros is out.

They go with Nationals results except for Semenenko instead of Mozalev and obviously S/K added in ID

by Anonymousreply 13December 26, 2021 11:06 AM

Russian team for Euros is out.

They go with Nationals results except for Semenenko instead of Mozalev and obviously S/K added in ID

by Anonymousreply 14December 26, 2021 11:07 AM

Hanyu’s FS; first jumping pass was the underrotated 4A but otherwise looking good.

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by Anonymousreply 15December 26, 2021 12:46 PM

Yuma’s FS

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by Anonymousreply 16December 26, 2021 1:12 PM

R15 No hate but why are people get excited for these 4A<< by Juzu, which are equal to a 3A with bad GOEs? The judging system wants clean, well-executed jumps and does not reward bad attempts….

by Anonymousreply 17December 26, 2021 1:58 PM

Japan Olympic Team

Hanyu

Uno

Kagiyama

Sakamoto

Higuchi

Kawabe

Miura/Kihara

Komatsubara/Koleto

by Anonymousreply 18December 26, 2021 4:03 PM

R18 Ugh, no Takahashi? I hope he continues and keeps bringing attention to ice dance in Japan.

by Anonymousreply 19December 26, 2021 4:51 PM

Olympics line-ups: what they look like

The situation in MEN was in the previous thread

PAIRS

Russia 3: Mishina/Galliamov, Boikova/Kozlovskii and Tarasova/Morozov

China 2: Sui/Han and Peng/Jin

Canada 2: well, they all regressed. Likely choices are James/Radford and Moore Tower/Marinaro

USA 2: 2 between Knierim/Frazier, Cain/LeDuc, Calalang/Johnson and Lu/Mitrofanov

Italy 2: Della Monica/Guarise, Ghilardi/Ambrosini

Japan: Miura/Kihara

Austria: Ziegler/Kiefer

Germany: Hase/Seegert

Czech Republic: Zhuk/Bidar

Hungary: Chtchetinina /Magyar

Spain: Barquero/Zandron (he still needs to receive his citizenship)

Georgia: Metelkina/Parkman or Safina/Bereluma. M/P got the Euro assignment.

Israel: Krasnopolski and his new new partner

by Anonymousreply 20December 26, 2021 5:14 PM

Ice Dance

Russia 3: Sinitsina/Katsalapov, Stepanova/Bukin, Davis/Smolkin

USA 3: Hubbell/Donohue, Chock/Bates....and probably Hawayek/Baker

Canada 3: Gilles/Poirier, Fournier Beaudry /Sørensen, Lajoie/Lagha

France: Papadakis/Cizeron

Italy: Guignard/Fabbri

Great Britain: Fear/Gibson

Spain: Smart/Diaz are confortably ahead of Hurtado/Khaliavin in the internal selection so far

China: Wang/Liu

Poland: Kaliszek / Spodyriev

Germany: Muller/Dieck

Japana: Komatsbuara/Koleto

Ukraine: Nazarova/Nikitin

Lithuania: Alison Reed has been refused citizenship twice. She has a last chance appeal. Otherwise their second weak couple whose names I can't remember will go

Armenia: Garabedian/Proulx Senecal

Georgia: Kazakova/Reviya

Finland: Turkkila / Versluis

Czech Republic: Taschler siblings

by Anonymousreply 21December 26, 2021 5:21 PM

Kazuki Tomono, FS - nice performance albeit not clean put him at 5th. He’s 23 but not planning to retire after this season.

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by Anonymousreply 22December 28, 2021 1:48 AM

Alysa Liu changed the SP

by Anonymousreply 23December 28, 2021 1:07 PM

US Junior ice dancers "disappeared" from the rink and his ice partner suggests his family is holding him hostage

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by Anonymousreply 24December 31, 2021 9:25 AM

R24, I haven’t heard any update about what happened to Tsarevski, but I found an article from a few months ago about this team:

“Off ice, both skaters are starting college – Flores at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs, Tsarevski at Pikes Peak Community College in Colorado Springs.

Tsarevksi is also preparing to audition at music schools, where he hopes to pursue a music-related degree (working remotely). Tsarevski has played the cello since he was 7 and wants to become a cello soloist.“

I hope he’s ok.

by Anonymousreply 25January 1, 2022 3:40 PM

The article.

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by Anonymousreply 26January 1, 2022 3:41 PM

Omg 😱 they are one of my favorite junior ice dance teams.

by Anonymousreply 27January 1, 2022 3:49 PM

There is an update posted on Anything GOEs now (link above) that says Dimitry is confirmed to be “physically okay”; but it says they won’t be skating at Nationals.

by Anonymousreply 28January 1, 2022 4:12 PM

Update by Flores

I am at a loss for words. As a lot of you know, I lost contact with him this weekend: We never heard from anyone, not him or his family to say anything, with nationals a week away. While we tried and got a hold of the police, after several visits, the police finally did hear from Dima and said he was okay. This seems pretty out of character because I know how much he was looking forward to Nationals and how hard we worked to get here, but the case is closed and there is nothing more that we can really do. I know from the bottom of my heart by both his actions and words, that skating was his form of expression and where he felt most free; i can only imagine how devastated he is right now.

I am not sure what this means for either one of our futures at this moment, but whatever happens, he will always be an important part of my life. I am so grateful for our friendship. We had a lot of fun.

by Anonymousreply 29January 1, 2022 4:37 PM

The Browns got Covid and are out of US Junior Dance Nationals.

Wolfkostin/Chen will do the Senior event.

Who is the left to win the Junior title now? Ling/Wein?

by Anonymousreply 30January 2, 2022 11:27 PM

Paul Poirier's new ad for Burberry:

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by Anonymousreply 31January 4, 2022 12:35 PM

US Nationals TV Schedule

Thursday, Jan. 6 Pairs’ Short 5-7p, USA,

Thursday, Jan. 6 Women’s Short 8:30-10:30p, USA,

Friday, Jan. 7 Rhythm Dance 4-6p, USA,

Friday, Jan. 7 Women’s Free 8-11p, NBC,

Saturday, Jan. 8 Men’s Short 4-6p, NBC

Saturday, Jan. 8 Pairs’ Free & Free Dance 7-10p, USA,

Sunday, Jan. 9 Men’s Free 2-4p, NBC,

Non US viewers can watch on the Olympic Channel youtube

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by Anonymousreply 32January 5, 2022 10:54 PM

R32 great, thanks!

by Anonymousreply 33January 5, 2022 11:50 PM

Frazier/Knierim are out because he tested positive to Covid yesterday

by Anonymousreply 34January 6, 2022 10:03 AM

Canadian nationals are this weekend too

Both James and Radford had Covid last week. No symptoms. They went back to ice this week. Unsure if they will skate afterall

Dechamps of Stellato/Deschamps also had covid and they went back to ice only this Monday.

by Anonymousreply 35January 6, 2022 10:05 AM

Canadian Nationals TV Schedule for CBC:

Saturday, January 8 (16:00 – 18:00 ET)

Sunday, January 9 (14:00 – 17:00 LOCAL)

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by Anonymousreply 36January 6, 2022 10:51 AM

Michelle Kwan had a kid. No word on if there’s a dad figure involved, but she carried it herself.

by Anonymousreply 37January 6, 2022 11:14 AM

Are the female single skaters still able to backload their programs?

by Anonymousreply 38January 6, 2022 11:41 AM

Papadakis/Cizeron withdraw from European Championships scheduled for next week. They want to avoid the risk of getting Covid just before Olympics.

Loica Demougeot and Theo Le Mercier will take their place.

by Anonymousreply 39January 6, 2022 1:00 PM

R38 After 2018, they change the rule to "In the Short Program only 1 jumping element in the second half will recieve a 10% bonus and on the Free skate only 3 jumping elements in the second half will recieve a 10% bonus"

by Anonymousreply 40January 6, 2022 1:02 PM

[quote]Papadakis/Cizeron withdraw from European Championships scheduled for next week.

Does that mean they won't have enough ISU points to be in the final group for the short dance at the Olympics?

by Anonymousreply 41January 6, 2022 1:06 PM

R41 indeed

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by Anonymousreply 42January 6, 2022 1:27 PM

I hope so, R41. P/c are grossly overrated a d ways afraid of showdown with S/K.

by Anonymousreply 43January 6, 2022 1:27 PM

R37, Kwan posted about her boyfriend on instagram last year. Unclear if he's the father (if she's still with him) or if she used a donor.

by Anonymousreply 44January 6, 2022 1:28 PM

Found the post about Kwan's partner on instagram.

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by Anonymousreply 45January 6, 2022 1:31 PM

Pair SP

1) Cain/LeDuc 79.39

2) Calalang/Johnson 77.48

3) Lu/Mitrofanov 68.11

by Anonymousreply 46January 6, 2022 11:35 PM

The bitch Amber Glenn tanked like expected. Ugh. Thank good for Levito who put a beautiful short program in a rather depressing field. Is she too young to take to the Olympics and worlds? She should go. I hope the next group is an improvement from what we have seen thus far.

by Anonymousreply 47January 7, 2022 2:18 AM

R47 yes, too young

So Liu didn't change SP afterall. It was Karen Chen who had a new SP

Looks like we are aheading towards a Liu-Bell-Chen Olympic team

by Anonymousreply 48January 7, 2022 8:47 AM

Liu was a mess, she's lucky to be 3rd.

by Anonymousreply 49January 7, 2022 9:13 AM

Bell

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by Anonymousreply 50January 7, 2022 10:14 AM

Chen

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by Anonymousreply 51January 7, 2022 10:14 AM

Liu

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by Anonymousreply 52January 7, 2022 10:15 AM

Thorngren

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by Anonymousreply 53January 7, 2022 10:16 AM

Levito

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by Anonymousreply 54January 7, 2022 10:16 AM

Gold

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by Anonymousreply 55January 7, 2022 10:17 AM

I was in the arena last night. Gold, of course, hot the biggest standing ovation.

Liu was way oversized with the fall. Isabeau, a terrific young skater, deserved to be ahead of Liu.

by Anonymousreply 56January 7, 2022 11:08 AM

Bell is just beyond lovely. I hope she can keep it up tonight.

by Anonymousreply 57January 7, 2022 1:27 PM

Liu out of the Free Skating because Covid

by Anonymousreply 58January 7, 2022 9:56 PM

Chock/Bates beat Hubbell/Donohue in the RD.

Issue on the twizzles for Hawayek and Green

1 Chock/Bates 91.94

2 Hubbell/Donohue 89.39

3 Green/Parsons 80.85

4 Hawayek/Baker 79.39

5 Carreira/Ponomarenko 77.90

6 Bratti/Somerville 76.70

7 Wolfkostin/Chen 75.28

8 Pate/Bye 73.06

9 McNamara/Spiridonov 73.04

10 Cesanek/Yehorov 70.07

11 Koncius/Shchepetov 52.63

12 Shilling/ODonnell 50.90

13 Cottrell/Palkhouski 49.92

14 Murphy/Levitt 40.49

by Anonymousreply 59January 7, 2022 10:56 PM

30 percent of the guys are Russians or Russia adjacent.

by Anonymousreply 60January 8, 2022 2:30 AM

I meant to add, in ice dance.

by Anonymousreply 61January 8, 2022 2:47 AM

I just net Misha Ge at the Championships! He's here as a coach and choreographer.

Misha is taller and skinnier than I expected.

by Anonymousreply 62January 8, 2022 3:06 AM

Mariah Bell win's US ladies titlle, Karen Chen 2nd, Isabeau Levito 3rd (too young for Olympics).

Ge is filling in for Todd Eldredge as coach for Panoit because Eldredge tested positive for covid on arrival.

by Anonymousreply 63January 8, 2022 1:48 PM

Ge is coaching/choreographingmore than one athlete here.

by Anonymousreply 64January 8, 2022 8:10 PM

USA Women Olympic Team announced.

As expected it is Bell, Chen and Liu. Thorngren is first atlernate. Glenn and Izzo are the other 2 alternates.

Meanwhile, Madeline Schizas won Canadian Nationals very easily given the state of women skating there. Dance as expected with Gilles/Poirier, Fournier/Sorensen and Lajoie/Lagha on the podium and likely getting their 3 Olympic spots. James/Radford WD from Pair FS

by Anonymousreply 65January 8, 2022 10:28 PM

Alyssa Liu looked a mess in an interview she did either before or after her SP (before it was announced that she had covid) I just remember thinking how unkempt and well.......GREASY her hair looked. (Well, what do you except? I am a Datalounger, after all) Does she not even care enough to wash her hair?

by Anonymousreply 66January 8, 2022 10:29 PM

And before anyone does it, I will "Oh, DEAR!" myself. I meant, What do you expect?

by Anonymousreply 67January 8, 2022 10:30 PM

Ilia Malinin was spectacular. Can't remember a better first showing by anyone (other than that current Russian girl who is literally other-worldly).

by Anonymousreply 68January 8, 2022 11:02 PM

My goodness, this has to be the most talented group of US male skaters in recent memory. I would have given Vincent the win in the short program. Ilia Malinin should have been a few more points closer to the top two.

Artur Dmitriev Jr. competing at US nationals? I was shocked when he came out on the screen. lol At 29 he is probably doing it for the love of the sport. His best days, the very few he had, are probably behind him. Love seeing him again.

by Anonymousreply 69January 8, 2022 11:07 PM

Jason Brown’s SP

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by Anonymousreply 70January 8, 2022 11:23 PM

R68. I was in the arena. Ilia was indeed fantastic and had the crowd eating out of his hand. True showman.

by Anonymousreply 71January 8, 2022 11:28 PM

Mariah Bell FS

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by Anonymousreply 72January 8, 2022 11:30 PM

Ilia Malinin SP

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by Anonymousreply 73January 8, 2022 11:32 PM

Reading the news reports about this event, analysts are saying the quality of skating in the US women event is FAR BELOW the quality of skating by the Russian and Japanese women

American women still have not caught up to the rest of the world

by Anonymousreply 74January 9, 2022 12:18 AM

[quote] Can't remember a better first showing by anyone (other than that current Russian girl who is literally other-worldly).

Do you know the name of the female skater you are referring to? I’d love to see her skate.

by Anonymousreply 75January 9, 2022 12:25 AM

R75, I think he means Kamila Valieva.

by Anonymousreply 76January 9, 2022 12:48 AM

Brian Johnson has the best beefy ass in the entire competition.

by Anonymousreply 77January 9, 2022 1:14 AM

Just watched her long r76. No one is beating that girl!

by Anonymousreply 78January 9, 2022 1:58 AM

Thanks, R76. I did mean Kamila. She is un-be-lievable. She's better than every guy except Nathan and maybe Yuzuru.

I really hope Ilia makes it to the Olympics and goes for the quad-quad in the free. He'll put everyone on notice.

by Anonymousreply 79January 9, 2022 2:26 AM

Liu is over it--too much pressure too early to save American Ladies skating. Not expecting any miracles with the American Ladies at the Olympics, but at least Mariah Bell and Karen Chen are beautiful watch even though they lack sufficient triple-triples. And maybe Liu will get her zip back for the Olympics.

Liu's going by she/they. Rebelling against the sequins and dress-up? Baby lesbian?

The Men, ojn the other hand, look terrific.

So is the US looking at bronze for the Olympics team competition or is there a chance of silver? I'm just catching up on the ins and outs of the last couple of years.

by Anonymousreply 80January 9, 2022 5:24 AM

Liu looked large - not for ordinary person standards but for female figure skating. Like 5 ft 6 or some such Amazonian size. The Witt, Kostner and Pogorilaya days are behind us.

And why will the US send quadless Brown instead of Ilia Malinin? Just determined to kill the sport here? (not far to go, esp if Chen retires to be a Yalie engineer or whatever - and I think his hips are messed up and that's why his landings are so stiff)

by Anonymousreply 81January 9, 2022 5:36 AM

* oops I meant Maria Sotskova @ 5ft8. So many Russians I can't keep them straight.

by Anonymousreply 82January 9, 2022 5:39 AM

Chock/Bates won over Hubbell/Donohue. Hawayek/Baker third

R80 Silver. Japan is too poor in Ice Dance.

by Anonymousreply 83January 9, 2022 8:54 AM

I have to say, given how little I watch figure skating these days, it is a shock to see how much single ladies has changed. I’m an old from the days of Dick Button. I miss the artistry of the old days. I can see how someone like Kamila brings artistry to how she moves between jumps but it’s just so different now.

by Anonymousreply 84January 9, 2022 9:43 AM

R84, nowadays it's all about racki g up the most points and less about true artistry or special moments.

by Anonymousreply 85January 9, 2022 9:48 AM

R78 Whatever, as as she disappears as fast as Zagitova whose skating I still hate.....

by Anonymousreply 86January 9, 2022 2:35 PM

R84 PCS have been meaningless for a while because they account for way less variance in scores than the tech. They make almost no difference.....Figure Skating in Single's today = whoever put the most clean quads wins

by Anonymousreply 87January 9, 2022 2:38 PM

R87, then explain how Jason Brown keeps placing ahead of so many guys who can do quads? He's never going to win anything, but he still manages to place higher than tons of quad boys. The current scoring system is FAR superior to the old 6.0 scale which was completely political.

by Anonymousreply 88January 9, 2022 3:47 PM

USA Pair Olympic nominations

Ashley Cain-Gribble/Timothy LeDuc

Alexa Knierim/Brandon Frazier

by Anonymousreply 89January 9, 2022 4:06 PM

They all stink, especially the females.

by Anonymousreply 90January 9, 2022 4:12 PM

USFSA Ice Dance selections

Olympics

Madison Chock and Evan Bates

Kaitlin Hawayek and Jean-Luc Baker

Madison Hubbell and Zachary Donohue

Alternate 1 – Caroline Green and Michael Parsons

Alternate 2 – Emily Bratti and Ian Somerville

Alternate 3 - Katarina Wolfkostin and Jeffrey Chen

2022 World Championships

Madison Chock and Evan Bates

Kaitlin Hawayek and Jean-Luc Baker

Madison Hubbell and Zachary Donohue

Alternate 1 – Caroline Green and Michael Parsons

Alternate 2 – Emily Bratti and Ian Somerville

Alternate 3 – Christina Carreira and Anthony Ponomarenko

2022 Four Continents Championships

Emily Bratti and Ian Somerville

Christina Carreira and Anthony Ponomarenko

Caroline Green and Michael Parsons

Alternate 1 – Eva Pate and Logan Bye

Alternate 2 – Lorraine McNamara and Anton Spiridonov

Alternate 3 – Molly Cesanek and Yehor Yehorov

2022 World Junior Championships

Oona Brown and Gage Brown

Angela Ling and Caleb Wein

Katarina Wolfkostin and Jeffrey Chen

Alternate 1 – Leah Neset and Artem Markelov

Alternate 2 – Helena Carhart and Volodymyr Horovyi

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by Anonymousreply 91January 9, 2022 4:58 PM

How exciting was it to see young Ilia Malinin do so well and give promise for the future of men's skating in the US?

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by Anonymousreply 92January 9, 2022 5:16 PM

Canada’s Olympic Team

Women: Madeline Schizas

Men: Keegan Messing, Roman Sadovsky

Pairs: Kirsten Moore-Towers / Michael Marinaro, Vanessa James / Eric Radford

Ice dance: Piper Gilles / Paul Poirier, Laurence Fournier Beaudry / Nikolaj Sørensen, Marjorie Lajoie / Zachary Lagha

by Anonymousreply 93January 9, 2022 5:31 PM

The state of US ladies figure skating makes me sad. With the exception of the 14-year-old Junior champion, they all looked so slow and heavy out there, doing triple-double combinations, not even triple-triple. Please tell me that there are more like Levito on the way.

by Anonymousreply 94January 9, 2022 7:35 PM

R66, I imagine Liu wasn't in the best state seeing as she was unknowingly incubating covid. Explains her rough sp too. She's the US's only real hope in ladies, hope she's recoverded in time for the olympics.

by Anonymousreply 95January 9, 2022 8:22 PM

These male skaters are so damn dramatic.

by Anonymousreply 96January 9, 2022 8:25 PM

How old are these female Russian single champs? They all are very tiny with bodies that look like they haven’t developed yet. With the demand for triples and quads only 13 and 14 year olds can be competitive these days it seems like.

by Anonymousreply 97January 9, 2022 8:26 PM

Zhou really shitting the bed here in this free skate.

by Anonymousreply 98January 9, 2022 8:29 PM

R88 Yes, I forgot one important ingredient: Transitions. There must be many transitions, especially in and out of jumps. The quality of the transitions doesn’t matter as long as they are plenty and look complex. Jumps must not be telegraphed….GOE account for a lot of variances in total scores.

That explains why (a clean, not URed) Jason wins over guys who do low-quality or telegraphed quads with few transitions….

But let’s be real, if Jason were from a small fed he would never see those kind of score that makes him a contender….

by Anonymousreply 99January 9, 2022 8:42 PM

R88 The current judging system is far inferior to the old system in producing champions who I like to watch and follow (Zagitova, anyone?). This is one of the main reasons why FS is not attractive to the mainstream in western countries anymore. And I would say artistry and skating skills have greatly suffered, now they are literally just an afterthought ….

by Anonymousreply 100January 9, 2022 8:51 PM

Ilia killed it today and deserves a spot on the Olympic team. Sorry, Jason.

by Anonymousreply 101January 9, 2022 9:07 PM

South Korea’s Olympic Team announced

Women:

Young You

Yelim Kim

Men:

Junhwan Cha

Sihyeong Lee

by Anonymousreply 102January 9, 2022 9:15 PM

[quote]The current judging system is far inferior to the old system in producing champions who I like to watch and follow (Zagitova, anyone?).

The last US woman that I bothered to follow was Sasha Cohen, mostly because she was such a gorgeous skater until she tried to land jumps. Poor thing. Everyone since then has been 100% forgettable. Rachel Flatt?

by Anonymousreply 103January 9, 2022 9:18 PM

Interest in figure skating has waned in recent years because US skaters are nowhere near the podium.

by Anonymousreply 104January 9, 2022 9:23 PM

R104. Hello!

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by Anonymousreply 105January 9, 2022 10:27 PM

[quote]Interest in figure skating has waned in recent years because US skaters are nowhere near the podium.

What he meant to say is: Interest in figure skating has waned in recent years because white US skaters are nowhere near the podium.

by Anonymousreply 106January 9, 2022 10:29 PM

USFSA is looking down all the way at the Novice Ladies division to see what is coming through the ranks

Because right now and the next couple of years will be a continued desert for the American women

by Anonymousreply 107January 9, 2022 10:33 PM

R104 Interest in Europe is very low, too. Aliona Savchenko gave Germany many many world titles but the public didn’t care at all. They only cared for her LP at the Olympics 2018 but only because the program was stunning and so beautiful….

Under the old system, figure skating competitions were like some sort of beauty contest. Probably not as transparent and analytical as the new system, but much much more fun and engaging for casual people who don’t care about minute details….

by Anonymousreply 108January 9, 2022 10:34 PM

R107 Why don’t they take some girls from Russia to the US? This seems to be the trend in mens but also pairs and ice dance.

by Anonymousreply 109January 9, 2022 10:36 PM

They need to tell Jason it’s time and send that kid to the Olympics. Or fuck over that trumptard Zhou.

by Anonymousreply 110January 9, 2022 10:38 PM

Who are the top contenders for the Olympics?

by Anonymousreply 111January 9, 2022 10:41 PM

The whole scoring system needs to be revamped. Because Figure skating has becoming a jumping contest and the person who jumps the most wins. Back in the old days a jumper would be held back. and given time to develop.

That is not what figure skating is about. They should put MORE points on edge control, speed, flow, transitions between the jumps - and cut the points awarded to jumps in half - that is what will get figure skating back to what it is - about skating NOT jumping.

by Anonymousreply 112January 9, 2022 10:43 PM

After Sasha Cohen Olympic Silver Medal is when Ladies Figure Skating in USA went downhill

as they have not medaled at the Olympics since 2006 - despite medalling in every Olympics since 1968

and they have only won ONE medal at worlds since 2006 - despite medalling every year for the past 30 years at that point

by Anonymousreply 113January 9, 2022 10:46 PM

R111 Eteri’s latest flagship Valieva is a lock for the ladies’ gold. Chen will win among the men except he has one of those very rare, bad performances. Pairs will be Russians against Sui/Han. Ice dance between Papadakis/Cizeron and Sinitsina/Katsalapov. But of course, COVID could eliminate any contender…..

by Anonymousreply 114January 9, 2022 10:48 PM

R113 What about Evan L, Davis/White etc…Was it only enough for Dancing with the Stars?

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by Anonymousreply 115January 9, 2022 10:51 PM

R110 Where is the proof that Zhou supports Trump?

by Anonymousreply 116January 9, 2022 10:53 PM

A fall on a jump should be -10, to put it in magnitude closer to the old system. And no more "rotated in the air" bullshit.

Chen skated well today, but bitch fell twice. The days of figure skating people remember (corrupt as they were) was easier to follow: be artistic and land your jumps.

by Anonymousreply 117January 9, 2022 10:53 PM

R100, artistry and skating skills are NOT an afterthought. You still have to have them to win. Nathan can really skate as can Kamila Valieva AND they have the jumps. If Jason Brown could land two quads, he'd win everything. So you're missing the fantastic artistry of Elaine Zayak and Nicole Bobek and Timothy Goebel? Please, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 118January 9, 2022 10:53 PM

Except for Valieva none of the Olympic golds are locked. Even if Kamila gets disqualified if she gets positive test, 100% a Russian will win Women's gold. I would say Sui/Han should take the gold unless they make a major error. Judges will push them against the baby Russians. The French look good for gold too as the Russians appear to have some health issues and I don't see Americans doing it.

However, I think Chen vs. Hanyu will be a nailbiter.

by Anonymousreply 119January 9, 2022 10:54 PM

R118 It’s not that Chen can’t skate at all or there is no musicality or no style in his skating. But he is clearly not the best in these regards, although he usually gets 9s in PCS. I have never heard anybody calling him a beautiful skater, everybody just talks about his jumps. The problem ist that others who are clearly more skillful and invested in artistry and skating skills get too little reward for it. Jason Brown gets as much credit for his artistry as possible under this system (except loosing to Chen in PCS usually) but just in this competitions Camden Pulkinen and even Jimmy Ma delivered much better artistry in my opinion. But what they “need” to “move up” under the current system are consistent performances with many clean quads foremost, let’s be real.

I have never watched Valieva because I boycott Eteri’s system now. But let’s not forget Trusova who has terrible skating skills and no artistry. Or Zagitova with her terrible, hunched posture and whose programs were full of backloaded gimmicks that seem so insignificant today.

by Anonymousreply 120January 9, 2022 11:10 PM

R119 I’m not optimistic regarding Hanyu. He is old by now and has had many injuries. A bad fall on his 4A attempt (which seems totally hopeless at this point) could take him out in the free program…

by Anonymousreply 121January 9, 2022 11:16 PM

The Russian ladies are doping and it lessens their accomplishments. Russia is banned from the Olympics so why are they competing while continuing to dope?

Liu pings to me. Whoever said she might be a baby Lesbian might be right. Please send the wonderkid Ilia Malinin to the Olympics. He has great jumping technique. Those jumps are fully rotated. You don't have to worry about underrotation when you watch him.

Nathan falling on his face lol....I am so sorry but I was laughing hysterically. So unexpected yet so funny.

by Anonymousreply 122January 9, 2022 11:21 PM

He was laughing too.

by Anonymousreply 123January 9, 2022 11:37 PM

If you hold a national championship and one skater clearly beats another, why would you have to consider the " body of work"? If you have a Super Bowl with one team at 16-1 and the other at 9-8, but the 9-8 team beats the 16-1 team 28-10, they don't organize a committee to consider the entire season and award the trophy to the 16-1 team. Brown is a beautiful skater who cannot land the quads needed to be competitive on the world stage. His day has passed. Time to give the spot to the kid in order to prepare him for the next Olympics, when the experience will not seem new and intimidating. He is the future of US skating, not Jason Brown. At least he has a chance to do well, since he has all of the jumps needed to be competitive.

by Anonymousreply 124January 9, 2022 11:43 PM

R120, JIMMY MA?!?!?!?! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

And Camden did fine, but he's not even in the same league as Nathan, even in just skating skills.

by Anonymousreply 125January 9, 2022 11:52 PM

Canada team for 4 Continents is as depressing as they can get. Women are the true gem.

MEN

Wesley CHIU Corey CIRCELLI Joseph PHAN

WOMEN

Gabrielle DALEMAN Véronik MALLET Alison SCHUMACHER

PAIR

Lori Ann MATTE / Thierry FERLAND Deanna STELLATO / Maxime DESCHAMPS Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD

ICE DANCE

Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC Haley SALES / Nikolas WAMSTEEKER Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS

by Anonymousreply 126January 9, 2022 11:56 PM

R106, the real issue is lack of ladies' contenders in the US. Americans loved Asian-American Michelle Kwan, they didn't GAF about 2010 OGM winner Evan Lysacek.

by Anonymousreply 127January 10, 2022 12:05 AM

USA Olympic Team

Nathan Chen

Vincent Zhou

Jason Brown

by Anonymousreply 128January 10, 2022 12:06 AM

R125 Nathan is only than Camden in skating skills and transitions. I think Camden has much better carriage, lines, timing, emotional expression and commitment to to the program. Camden is a beautiful skater which Chen is not to me….I really don’t care about his Chen’s skating and would not miss one thing he were to stop skating right now. Jimmy Ma has interesting programs and very good skating skills.

by Anonymousreply 129January 10, 2022 12:12 AM

OMG, I can't believe those morons are letting Jason Brown go instead of Ilia.

by Anonymousreply 130January 10, 2022 12:12 AM

I hope Jason Brown gets COVID and can't compete.

by Anonymousreply 131January 10, 2022 12:13 AM

USFSA is dumb for naming Jason, and I say that as a fan of his.

by Anonymousreply 132January 10, 2022 12:20 AM

Wow. They have made such a huge mistake. That kid should be going, not Jason Brown.

by Anonymousreply 133January 10, 2022 12:45 AM

Is Malinin age eligible though?

by Anonymousreply 134January 10, 2022 12:51 AM

I'm so annoyed that I hope Chen chokes (again) and the US men don't medal at all.

by Anonymousreply 135January 10, 2022 1:00 AM

Yes, R134; he's 17. It is a huge blunder.

by Anonymousreply 136January 10, 2022 1:11 AM

US Figure Skating is run by idiots. Ilia is the future of US men, and he needs to be in the 2022 Olympics.

by Anonymousreply 137January 10, 2022 1:47 AM

America gonna America. Jason Brown will get 17th.

by Anonymousreply 138January 10, 2022 2:34 AM

[quote] (Malinin) has great jumping technique. Those jumps are fully rotated.

His 4T-3T was 1/4-1/4 cheated on the end and he just slightly toe-axels the takeoffs (too much weight shifting off the right to the left foot). And his 3A is nearly 1/2 cheated on the takeoff, a really obvious skid. But strangely the more difficult 4Lz was clean, although borderline flutzy. Still better than Brown and Chou.

by Anonymousreply 139January 10, 2022 2:41 AM

You can damn well bet the Russians wouldn't be sentimental about selecting the team. It isn't like they are letting Tuk go just because she's had more international experience.

by Anonymousreply 140January 10, 2022 2:50 AM

R116, he hasn’t always been pro-Trump. He posted opposition to Trump’s ban of trans people in the military in 2017. There was a period in 2018, when he was 17, where he liked some conservative posts on Twitter. Nothing like that in years since that I know of. He’s never been anti-gay; he may have had posts considered anti-trans years ago, but not in the sense of taking away anti-discrimination rights- more along the lines of believing in the physical validity of XX, XY.

by Anonymousreply 141January 10, 2022 2:50 AM

R141, basically Vincent is your typical DL'er.

by Anonymousreply 142January 10, 2022 3:30 AM

Well, Zhou has gone up a notch or two in my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 143January 10, 2022 3:31 AM

I hope the US loses the team competition to Russia and Japan just to spite it for not choosing Ilia, one of the few men to break 300 points this season.

by Anonymousreply 144January 10, 2022 3:32 AM

R138, Brown will probably finish a dependable bottom half of the top 10 like he has the last 3 years at worlds. However he has little to no prayer of a medal while Malinin could perhaps get one with a performance like at nationals. Malinin could also end up in last place if he bombed like at his only senior international last year.

by Anonymousreply 145January 10, 2022 7:22 AM

Malinin wouldn't be skating in the team competition no matter what. I'm guessing the team will be Knierman/Frazier for pairs,; Alysa Liu for the Ladies since she has the technical scores; H/D and C/B will double up in ice dance; and Chen and Zhou in men's.

by Anonymousreply 146January 10, 2022 8:57 AM

I forget the rules with the team event, but are they allowed to only have one skater compete in the singles like R146 is suggesting with Liu? Can we borrow the third Russian ladies skater who won't get to compete in the ROC team event?

by Anonymousreply 147January 10, 2022 9:13 AM

R147 they can split only 2 disciplines

by Anonymousreply 148January 10, 2022 9:21 AM

I believe two disciplines get two competitors and two get one. That's how it was last time when the Shibs petitioned to be the only ice dancing team.

by Anonymousreply 149January 10, 2022 9:24 AM

It is not mandatory to split. One can keep the same 4 in both SP and FS

by Anonymousreply 150January 10, 2022 9:29 AM

European Championships schedule

Wednesday, January 12th

11:25 Men Short Program

18:00 Opening Ceremony

18:45 Pairs Short Program

Thursday, January 13th

11:05 Women Short Program

19:00 Pairs Free Program

Friday, January 14th

12:00 Ice Dance Rhythm Dance

18:00 Men Free Program

Saturday, January 15th

13:35 Ice Dance Free Dance

18:30 Women Free Program

Sunday, January 16th

15:30 Exhibition Gala

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There was a wave of withdrawals yesterday between positive Covid tests, teams deciding not to travel (all Israeli entries withdrew) and some injuries. Notable withdrawals include Kolyada (replaced by Molazev) and Rizzo (replaced by Memola).

by Anonymousreply 151January 10, 2022 9:49 AM

Then, r101, why have Qualifying?

In other news: I bought my Floor Row, Center-Rink Seat, ticket for "Stars on Ice" this Spring! Saw the tour last time, with Nathan Chen, Jason Brown, and other champions, and they are listed for this tour, also! And they do quads.

by Anonymousreply 152January 10, 2022 10:40 AM

To add:

The Olympic Channel is repeating the U.S. Women's Skating today, and the Men's Tuesday.

by Anonymousreply 153January 10, 2022 10:44 AM

R93, I feel sorry for Walsh & Michaud. I don't think it's fair that Skate Canada is sending James & Radford, who pulled out of Canadian Nationals. James & Radford are a decent team, but it's not like they are World medalists. I don't think they should get an automatic "bye" to the Olympics, particularly since they've only been a team for less than a year.

by Anonymousreply 154January 10, 2022 1:20 PM

R154, Radfrod is a 2 time world champion and Olympic gold medalist. Vanessa is a recent European Champion and Grand Prix Final Champion. It does not matter is they done it with different partners. They have more potential to place higher than W/M. It's a smart decision by Canada.

by Anonymousreply 155January 10, 2022 2:38 PM

Wow, really stupid not to send Malinin. How can you not send a skater who broke the 300 points mark? Zhou is inconsistent but defending World Bronze medalist, so it makes sense to send him. As someone posted upthread, Brown is usually bottom half of top ten. He has little to no medal chances. Malinin would at least have a shot at a medal. Malinin is the future. Why not expose him to his first Olympics? USFSA has always been stupid, but this ranks as one of their worst blunders.

Malinin does need to work on his skating in between jumps, but with those pristine quads the international judges will have a jerkfest over him. Fuck, Plushenko had no choreography in 2006 and straight up admitted in the press and the judges gazzed over his shitty program because he was the best jumper.

by Anonymousreply 156January 10, 2022 4:19 PM

Jason Brown owes Ilia Malinin a voracious blowjob for stealing his spot on the Olympic team.

by Anonymousreply 157January 10, 2022 6:33 PM

[quote] Zhou is inconsistent but defending World Bronze medalist,

Defending World Bronze is Hanyu. 2021 Worlds were 1) Chen 2) Kagyama 3) Hanyu. Brown was 7th and Zhou was cut after the Short (25th)

by Anonymousreply 158January 10, 2022 8:08 PM

R155 I generally agree, but they looked so blown over by covid I don't know if they'll be fit enough by the Olympics. They're also both asses as people, so I wouldn't be sad if they were still too weak to compete and the Canadian silver medalists filled in.

by Anonymousreply 159January 10, 2022 8:37 PM

European Championships TV schedule (Eastern Standard Time):

Thursday Jan. 13. 8AM - 10AM. Women's short program

Thursday Jan. 13 12PM - 2PM. Men's short program

Friday Jan.14. 1PM -3PM. Men's free program

Saturday Jan. 15. 1PM - 3PM. Women's free program

The above are all on the E! channel.

Sunday Jan. 16. 4PM - 6PM. Replay of men's and women's free programs on NBC

by Anonymousreply 160January 10, 2022 8:40 PM

My bad, R158. I should have written Zhou is a former World bronze medalist from 2019. I forgot they did have Worlds last year. I mistakenly thought it was skipped like they did in 2020. I used to pay close attention to skating. Not so much anymore.

by Anonymousreply 161January 10, 2022 9:06 PM

I suppose it is too much to hope that Jason Brown would bow out gracefully so that Ilia could go instead? It isn't like Jason hasn't been to the Olympics before and he knows good and well he isn't medaling.

by Anonymousreply 162January 10, 2022 9:52 PM

What are the reasons the U.S. has fallen so far behind in figure skating? It seems like there always used to be contenders from the US at every Worlds and Olympics. In years past - 20 years ago and more. At least in Ladies' singles and Men's singles there were always contenders from the U.S. The Pairs and Dance would usually have at least one couple from the U.S. who were vying for bronze. Why has the U.S. fallen so far behind?

by Anonymousreply 163January 10, 2022 10:10 PM

R162, Jason Brown didn't go through 5 cancelled flights, lost costumes, road tripping the final 250 miles to Nashville, then competing coachless after having his coach test positive on arrival to bow out of the Olympics. He obviously wants to go.

by Anonymousreply 164January 10, 2022 10:25 PM

The US still has the strongest male team in the world.

Russia is doping in the ladies which makes it difficult to asses how far behind the rest of the world has fallen from previous eras. I imagine Japan and Russia would be battling out for world titles if it weren't for the doping.

by Anonymousreply 165January 10, 2022 10:30 PM

Not sending Ilia and Green/Parsons is a huge mistake. The USFSA is not taking care of its future. People need to be fired for this gigantic mistake.

by Anonymousreply 166January 10, 2022 10:33 PM

Hunh? Why send Green/Parsons over the consistent top three. Both Hubbell/Donohue and Chock/Bates have a chance of medalling and will contribute to the team medal. Hawayek/Baker have been solid for years and can move in. All the placements will shift after the Olympics anyway, so Green/Parsons will get their chance.

I think there is an argument for Ilia. I don't see Chen or Jason going to 2026 and I think Zhou might ease out too unless he starts getting to the top of the podium.

by Anonymousreply 167January 10, 2022 10:45 PM

[quote]The US still has the strongest male team in the world.

Hanyu/Uno/Kagiyama is a stronger overall trio even if Chen is dominant over Hanyu right now.

by Anonymousreply 168January 10, 2022 11:13 PM

Some possible reasons for the dearth (death?) of figure skating in the US: the rise of gymnastics - and parents with money are more likely to put their girls in that? just bad luck that no stars emerged after Ashley? Ice shows used to be a big thing but they aren't any more. Maybe the rise of cable tv and so many channels and then social media decimated tv ratings for everything. There was a time when the weekend "Wide World of Sports" had nearly everyone watching figure skating - now, not many do - there are too many other things to do.

by Anonymousreply 169January 11, 2022 3:01 AM

American girls are fat.

by Anonymousreply 170January 11, 2022 4:31 AM

Girls can participate in many more sports now than they could in the past.

by Anonymousreply 171January 11, 2022 4:44 AM

American girls' bodies are suited for figure skating between 8-12. After that, they balloon.

by Anonymousreply 172January 11, 2022 5:10 AM

Mariah Bell is still tiny at 25. That's probably why she can still compete, R172.

by Anonymousreply 173January 11, 2022 8:20 AM

R166, I wish they'd sent Ilia, but there was no justification from sending Green/Parsons, especially after they finished 4th at nationals.

by Anonymousreply 174January 11, 2022 9:15 AM

Moscow-based Russian ice dance coach and former competitor Alexander Zhulin on American pairs skater Timothy LeDuc's declaring as non-binary.

"What category will he perform in - men or women? Is he paired with a woman? He himself is like a man, it means. And initially he was a man, it turns out. How do I feel about this? Oh, yes, I don’t want to comment on these freaks, I don’t want, I don’t want to, ” Zhulin said.

by Anonymousreply 175January 11, 2022 9:59 AM

Russians are such assholes, I love it.

by Anonymousreply 176January 11, 2022 10:03 AM

Ilia. They'd better let him compete at Worlds.

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by Anonymousreply 177January 11, 2022 11:07 AM

R177, Ilis has been named to the world team so long as he gets the technical minimum score to compete required by the ISU.

by Anonymousreply 178January 11, 2022 3:24 PM

A skater who earned 4th is somehow supposed to be overlooked or to resign in order to give a proven lesser performer "experience" because he's "the future"?

Qualifying is, or used to be, you know, for qualifying.

by Anonymousreply 179January 11, 2022 4:54 PM

OMG, I can't believe I didn't know Ilia finished second, and I WATCHED THE EVENT!

Okay, I rescind r179, and will now go eat some raw crow.

by Anonymousreply 180January 11, 2022 5:01 PM

European Championships Men Short Program Starting Order for tomorrow.

34 skaters...so it lasts more than 4 and a half hours.

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by Anonymousreply 181January 11, 2022 5:02 PM

The 17-year-old is the future and actually has a shot at a medal. Jason Brown already had his Olympic experience four years ago and has no shot at an individual medal. US Figure Skating still has one foot in the past and act like they are hoping the 6.0 scale returns.

by Anonymousreply 182January 11, 2022 5:19 PM

Only one pairs team gets to go to the games this year?

by Anonymousreply 183January 11, 2022 5:27 PM

Two pairs go--LeDuc/Cain and Knerim/Notherhusband

US qualified three in all other disciplines

by Anonymousreply 184January 11, 2022 7:47 PM

I wondered what you were referencing, R179/R180. It's Jason "No Jumps" Brown who finished a distant fourth to the fantastic 17 year-old. What do you have to say now for "qualifying?" They might as well not have even held the national championships; they weren't going to do anything other than send the three they've had in the commercials all along. It was a sham.

by Anonymousreply 185January 11, 2022 8:18 PM

[quote] Hanyu/Uno/Kagiyama is a stronger overall trio even if Chen is dominant over Hanyu right now.

Hanyu is a has been that hasn't won a world title in many years. Of course the US has a stronger men's program. The world medals do not lie.

by Anonymousreply 186January 11, 2022 8:24 PM

Doesn't look "finished" here.

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by Anonymousreply 187January 11, 2022 8:56 PM

R184, Glad I'm the only one who can't remember Knierem's partners name. I'm kind of rooting for her. I like a tough cookie.

So Deanna Stellato's skating for Canada now? Does she have a shot at getting to the Olympics?

Hubbell/Donohue are great ice dancers, but not super bright--they could have held silver and even gotten a gold when P/C were out if they managed to be A)consistent and B) consistently picked music and programs that played to their strengths. Instead, they're duking it out with the slower, smaller Chock/Bates.

I feel for Hawayek/Baker. They're good, musical, but he's just so damn tiny that they always look a little off in their proportions and it hurts them. They're going to get their Olympics, but then I think the judges will just move other teams ahead of them after H/D and C/B retire.

by Anonymousreply 188January 11, 2022 9:07 PM

Hubbell and Donohue seem insufferable. I wish Chock and Bates had repeated their long program from last year again because it was a huge winner (the snake).

by Anonymousreply 189January 11, 2022 9:10 PM

Ilia is posting 4t/4t combinations on social media. This kid is smart.

He knows the USFSA is already regretting not sending him to the Olympics [where he has met the required scores to compete]. Omicron will likely not allow him to compete another time in order to get the required scores for worlds.

IS 4CC happening this year?

by Anonymousreply 190January 11, 2022 9:11 PM

[quote] IS 4CC happening this year?

yes, next week. In Estonia....really.

B teams for everyone except Korea.

by Anonymousreply 191January 11, 2022 9:21 PM

The 4 Continents entries

1 Jordan DODDS AUS

2 Brendan KERRY AUS

3 James MIN AUS

4 Wesley CHIU CAN

5 Corey CIRCELLI CAN

6 Joseph PHAN CAN

7 Harrison Jon-Yen WONG HKG

8 Kao MIURA JPN

9 Sena MIYAKE JPN

10 Kazuki TOMONO JPN

11 Dias JIRENBAYEV KAZ

12 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ

13 Junhwan CHA KOR

14 Jaeseok KYEONG KOR

15 Sihyeong LEE KOR

16 Matthew SAMUELS RSA

17 Tomoki HIWATASHI USA

18 Jimmy MA USA

19 Camden PULKINEN USA

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1 Victoria ALCANTARA AUS

2 Kailani CRAINE AUS

3 Gabrielle DALEMAN CAN

4 Veronik MALLET CAN

5 Alison SCHUMACHER CAN

6 Tara PRASAD IND

7 Rino MATSUIKE JPN

8 Mai MIHARA JPN

9 Yuhana YOKOI JPN

10 Yelim KIM KOR

11 Haein LEE KOR

12 Young YOU KOR

13 Eugenia GARZA MEX

14 Andrea MONTESINOS CANTU MEX

15 Jocelyn HONG NZL

16 Sofia Lexi Jacqueline FRANK PHI

17 Tzu-Han TING TPE

18 Starr ANDREWS USA

19 Gabriella IZZO USA

20 Audrey SHIN USA

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1 Lori-Ann MATTE / Thierry FERLAND CAN

2 Deanna STELLATO-DUDEK / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN

3 Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD CAN

4 Emily CHAN / Spencer Akira HOWE USA

5 Audrey LU / Misha MITROFANOV USA

6 Katie MCBEATH / Nathan BARTHOLOMAY USA

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1 Holly HARRIS / Jason CHAN AUS

2 India NETTE / Eron WESTWOOD AUS

3 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC CAN

4 Haley SALES / Nikolas WAMSTEEKER CAN

5 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN

6 Kana MURAMOTO / Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN

7 Charlotte LAFOND-FOURNIER / Richard Kang In KAM NZL

8 Emily BRATTI / Ian SOMERVILLE USA

9 Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA

10 Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONS USA

by Anonymousreply 192January 11, 2022 9:39 PM

R188, Deanna Stellato isn't a Canadian citizen so wasn't eligible to go to the Olympics for Canada this year. Maybe she'll stick around in another 4 years, when she'll be 42, like that British pairs skater in her 40s?

by Anonymousreply 193January 11, 2022 9:42 PM

That's not even the B team for American Ladies, that's the C team. The B team is going to the Olympics. We don't really have an A team--maybe Bradie Tennell and then one of the head cases when they're on, but Bradie's out and I won't be surprised if she retires, frankly. She can't work on the big jumps with a foot injury and she's not competitive internationally without them. She's already been US Champ twice and has an Olympic team bronze, so she's gone as far as she can without a triple axel or a quad.

by Anonymousreply 194January 11, 2022 10:43 PM

Thanks for posting Hanyu's short program skate from Japanese Nationals, R187. He and Chen should battle it out at the Olympics, or at least that's what I hope. For me, Hanyu is the more complete skater. His rivalry with Chen reminds me a bit of Brian Orser and Brian Boitano. Orser was once the one who upped the technical content while being like a dancer on ice, but along came Boitano the technician who just nipped him at the 1988 Olympics. The Battle of the Brians was an epic sports event. Similarly, Hanyu upped the technical content but had the overall program components to present a complete package, but then along came the technical merit of Chen who upped the quad jumping difficulty. Chen, like Boitano, has worked a lot on his in between skating, but Hanyu, like Orser, is a more naturally lyrical, elegant skater. I prefer Hanyu's skating myself.

I also liked the Japanese graphics better than what NBC shows. It showed height, distance, how much ground Hanyu covered over the ice and how fast. Far superior to the stupid color coded graphic NBC showed, although the Japanese broadcast included that info as well.

by Anonymousreply 195January 11, 2022 10:45 PM

Junhwan Cha SP at Korean Nationals a few days ago - another of Orser’s students…

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by Anonymousreply 196January 11, 2022 11:38 PM

The poor Aussie skaters - do they ever finish well enough to get to the Winter games?

by Anonymousreply 197January 11, 2022 11:55 PM

Johnny Weir is now part of the USFS Hall of Fame…

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by Anonymousreply 198January 11, 2022 11:57 PM

R197, here’s an article on the Aussie skaters.

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by Anonymousreply 199January 12, 2022 12:04 AM

Thanks for posting R199.

by Anonymousreply 200January 12, 2022 12:40 AM

Has US Figure Skating decided who goes to Beijing as alternates? If so, who made the grade?

by Anonymousreply 201January 12, 2022 2:34 AM

Olympics US ID: Madison Chock / Evan Bates; Kaitlin Hawayek / Jean-Luc Baker; Madison Hubbell / Zachary Donohue (Alternate 1: Caroline Green and Michael Parsons; Alt 2: Emily Bratti and Ian Somervillle; Alt 3: Katarina Wolfkostin and Jeffrey Chen.)

Pais: Ashley Cain-Gribble/Timothy LeDuc & Alexa Knierim/Brandon Frazier (alt 1: Calalang/Johnson, alt 2: Lu/Mitrofanov, alt 3: Chan/Howe)

Women: Alysa Liu, Mariah Bell, Karen Chen. Alt1 Lindsey Thorngren; Alt2 Amber Glenn; Alt3 Gabriella Izzo.

Men: Jason Brown, Nathan Chen, Vincent Zhou (alt 1: Ilia Malinin, alt 2: Camden Pulkinen, 3: Jimmy Ma)

by Anonymousreply 202January 12, 2022 2:52 AM

How can the US have good to great male figure skaters and so-so women? They have the same coaches. I also think they should have sent Ilia.

by Anonymousreply 203January 12, 2022 2:56 AM

R191, Kazuki Tomono is B team but still a great skater, three time Grand Prix medalist and first in the short program at Cup of Russia this year.

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by Anonymousreply 204January 12, 2022 3:25 AM

Euros is getting underway, with Men’s and Pairs’ SPs tomorrow. 31 year old Michal Brezina is still competing.

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by Anonymousreply 205January 12, 2022 3:50 AM

Papadakis and Cizeron chickened out of the Europeans. They’re afraid of getting beaten again by Sinitsina and Katsalopov before the Olympics. Usin the excuse — afraid of Covid. Yeah, right.

by Anonymousreply 206January 12, 2022 4:10 AM

R192, only US and Canadian teams in the pairs? Sigh, it makes me sad that the worldwide pairs field is so weak. My favourite discipline, but it’s not been the same since they made dance into pseudo-pairs.

by Anonymousreply 207January 12, 2022 7:07 AM

Covid situation at Europeans

Irish male skarer positive. Replacement sent in his place

Coach of Slovak girl is positive. Skater put into isolation. Replacement sent.

Girl from Romania tested positive.

Almost whole Israeli team is positive. They withdrew also the not yet positive athletes

Polish dancers #2 positive

Woman of British pair positive

Man of Swiss pair positive

by Anonymousreply 208January 12, 2022 8:46 AM

Majorov WD this morning. Positive to Covid

by Anonymousreply 209January 12, 2022 8:54 AM

Yet none of the russians are positive when covid is raging there. I wonder if they tested themselves.

by Anonymousreply 210January 12, 2022 9:41 AM

[quote]I wish Chock and Bates had repeated their long program from last year again because it was a huge winner (the snake).

Chock & Bates's snake charmer program was pretty good, but it lost out to Gilles & Poirier's Joni Mitchell program at Worlds.

by Anonymousreply 211January 12, 2022 10:44 AM

Joni Mitchell program was a bore, and G/P’s current program is even worse.

by Anonymousreply 212January 12, 2022 11:22 AM

Gilles & Poirier's Joni Mitchell program was good -- it won them the bronze medal at Worlds. Time will tell whether their current program has enough narrative power to be as successful.

by Anonymousreply 213January 12, 2022 12:13 PM

Short Program at Europeans

1 Andrei Mozalev (Russia) 99.76

2 Mark Kondratiuk (Russia) 99.06

3 Evgeni Semenenko (Russia) 99.04

4 Morisi Kvitelashvili (Georgia) 92.76

5 Daniel Grassl (Italy) 91.75

6 Deniss Vasiljevs (Latvia) 90.24

7 Vladimir Litvintsev (Azerbjan) 83.46

8 Ivan Shmuratko (Ukraine) 82.13

9 Gabriele Frangipani (Italy) 81.79

10 Kevin Aymoz (France) 80.39

11 Paul Fentz (Germany) 76.76

12 Nikolaj Memola (Italy) 73.98

13 Lukas Britschgi (Switzerland) 72.96

14 Nikita Starostin (Germany)72.12

15 Michal Brezina (Czech Republic) 71.60

16 Maurizio Zandron (Austria) 70.75

17 Arlet Levandi (Estonia) 70.04

18 Konstantin Milyukov (Belarus) 69.10

19 Slavik Hayrapetyan (Armenia) 67.75

20 Valtter Virtanen (Finland) 67.34

21 Davide Lewton Brain (Monaco) 67.31

22 Burak Demirboga (Turkey) 67.30

23 Kornel Witkowski (Poland) 66.26

24 Tomas-Llorenc Guarino Sabate (Spain) 66.20

ELIMINATED

25 Adam Hagara (Slovakia) 65.23

26 Graham Newberry (Great Britain) 64.49

27 Matyas Belohradsky (Czech) 64.38

28 Nika Egadze (Georgia) 63.60

29 Daniel Kockers (Latvia) 56.10

30 Conor Stakelum (Ireland) 56.00

31 Jari Kessler (Croatia) 55.82

32 Andras Csernoch (Hungary) 54.88

33 Larry Loupolover (Bulgaria) 45.67

by Anonymousreply 214January 12, 2022 3:53 PM

Mozalev

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by Anonymousreply 215January 12, 2022 3:55 PM

Kondatryuk

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by Anonymousreply 216January 12, 2022 3:55 PM

Semenenko

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by Anonymousreply 217January 12, 2022 3:55 PM

Kondratiuk should be in first (although it's basically tied). Slightly better first spin and much better choreography and performance. Both equal on the jumps.

by Anonymousreply 218January 12, 2022 4:10 PM

Roman Sadovsky in the FS at Canadian Nationals, peaking at the right time…

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by Anonymousreply 219January 12, 2022 6:39 PM

6 Covid cases in total (athletes, judges, other officials) at Euros today according to ISU

by Anonymousreply 220January 12, 2022 8:18 PM

Expected Russian domination in Pair

The gap between top 3 and the rest is embarassing

1 Mishina/Galliamov 82.36

2 Tarasova/Morozov 81.48

3 Boikova/Kozlovskii 76.26

4 Ghilardi/Ambrosini 62.76

5 Hase/Seegert 62.21

6 Safina/Berulava 61.93

7 Chtchetinina/Magyar 60.96

8 Barquero/Zandron 60.65

9 Lukashevich/Stepanov 58.80

10 Conti/Macii 56.28

11 Pavlova/Nagy 56.24

12 Kovalev/Kovalev 56.04

13 Hocke/Kunkel 55.17

14 Holichenko/Darenskyi 55.15

15 Zukova/Bidar 54.40

16 Petranovic/Souza Kordeiru 52.78

17 Keriven/Pierre 51.79

18 Vaipan-Law/Digby 51.11

19 Roscher/Schuster 48.77

20 Vaananen/Akulov 46.34

21 Danilova/Tsiba 36.86

by Anonymousreply 221January 12, 2022 8:20 PM

ISU bio page lists hobbies and results for all the skaters. Most skaters list pretty generic stuff like music or movies. As far as I know, Kazuki is the only one who lists "sauna bathing" as a hobby. Past skaters from many years ago still have their bios up - Elvis Stojko likes "email". Mariah Bell likes "playing with her rabbits."

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by Anonymousreply 222January 13, 2022 3:18 AM

On his bio page, Kevin Aymoz: Hobbies: drinking coffee, dreaming.

Yuruzu Hanyu's: "Nothing"

by Anonymousreply 223January 13, 2022 3:46 AM

R223, that doesn't surprise me -- Hanyu needs a life outside of skating.

by Anonymousreply 224January 13, 2022 10:00 AM

Alexia Paganini is hot.

by Anonymousreply 225January 13, 2022 1:48 PM

R225 is a straight guy?

by Anonymousreply 226January 13, 2022 2:21 PM

Jason Brown still does charity work with injured kids.

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by Anonymousreply 227January 13, 2022 3:37 PM

Kamila is other-worldly

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by Anonymousreply 228January 16, 2022 2:31 PM

R228 Then I hope that Eteri‘s new Olympic year model has the same short product cycle as the previously ‘other-worldy’ Zagitova.

by Anonymousreply 229January 16, 2022 7:35 PM

R228 Can’t wait to see her fall apart once she is taller and has hips….

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by Anonymousreply 230January 16, 2022 7:37 PM

Looked slightly human when she crashed on her 3A in the free.

by Anonymousreply 231January 16, 2022 7:38 PM

R231 We all know it’s just a matter of time….

by Anonymousreply 232January 16, 2022 7:40 PM

Are they still doing the team competition for skating at the Winter Games?

by Anonymousreply 233January 16, 2022 8:31 PM

Yes. The first event is "Team Event - Men Single Skating Short Program" on February 4

I forget how many countries qualify, six or eight, something like that. Russia expected to take gold, Japan/US fight for silver I think. Unless pigs fly or something.

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by Anonymousreply 234January 17, 2022 9:03 AM

I attended the previous event and have front row for this one. It is well worth the price of admission to see Nathan Chen and Jason Brown in person.

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by Anonymousreply 235January 17, 2022 9:47 AM

Why doesn’t Eteri just enter a jumping zygote in the women’s competition and call it a win?

by Anonymousreply 236January 17, 2022 10:00 AM

While I understand some negative comments about Eteri's winning formula, Valieva isn't just jumps though. Even removing quads, she would score very high. Same can't be said about some of her students, like Trusova or Zagitova. Scherbakova is also a decent all around skater.

by Anonymousreply 237January 17, 2022 10:05 AM

WHET to Drunksana Baiul?

by Anonymousreply 238January 17, 2022 1:17 PM

R238, she is married with a kindergarten age daughter and lives in Las Vegas.

by Anonymousreply 239January 17, 2022 2:37 PM

Beautifully filmed routine of a junior dance brother and sister.

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by Anonymousreply 240January 17, 2022 10:30 PM

This year's routine.

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by Anonymousreply 241January 17, 2022 10:34 PM

Sweden finally decided to send its skaters to the Olympics! Women Josefin Taljegard - Men Nikolaj Majorov

And the Team Event has ten qualified countries, though three have to send extra skaters who aren't doing the regular events just to make up the numbers (a woman from Italy, a man from Germany, a pair from Ukraine)

The Big 10: Russia, US, Japan, Canada, China, Italy, Germany, Georgia, Czechia, Ukraine

by Anonymousreply 242January 19, 2022 4:59 AM

Four Continents Men’s SP results from this morning- Cha and Tomono are first and second while Brendan Kerry of Australia is in 4th. Some great skates so far in the SP.

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by Anonymousreply 243January 21, 2022 3:20 PM

I’d love to see an Australian compete in skating.

by Anonymousreply 244January 21, 2022 3:26 PM

Mai Mihara won gold in ladies…here’s her Les Miserables SP.

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by Anonymousreply 245January 21, 2022 4:06 PM

This is Mai Mihara’s second Four Continents win - her first was back in the 2016/2017 season. She’s now 22 years old, born in 1999.

by Anonymousreply 246January 21, 2022 4:10 PM

Brendan Kerry Nebelhorn SP -very nice. Four Continents video isn’t up yet.

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by Anonymousreply 247January 21, 2022 4:27 PM

Mai Mihara hasn't won Four Continents 2022 yet. She will skater her FS tomorrow afternoon (morning if you're in the US) in Estonia - and we'll see if she can stay away from the three Korean A-team ladies who are 2nd 3rd and 4th after the short program (Seoul says, "covid? what covid?"

by Anonymousreply 248January 21, 2022 9:49 PM

Ladies FS just finished.

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by Anonymousreply 249January 22, 2022 2:17 PM

Cha just became the first Korean man to medal at Four Continents with a win here. FS just finished but here is the SP.

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by Anonymousreply 250January 23, 2022 1:23 PM

Cha FS.

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by Anonymousreply 251January 23, 2022 7:45 PM

There's some suspicion about it - but Kolyada has been declared to have contracted Covid and now Semenenko is going in his place.

One down, how many ejectees to go, one wonders? Some pair is out too - from a small country (in skating terms). Can't remember who they are.

by Anonymousreply 252January 26, 2022 9:35 AM

An article about Kolyada below…

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by Anonymousreply 253January 26, 2022 8:13 PM

Kolyada is one of 5 out so far on the Russian Olympic team…he had missed training due to the symptoms and subsequently got the COVID test. He also had a recent foot injury just a couple weeks ago.

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by Anonymousreply 254January 26, 2022 9:32 PM

I think by "foot injury" they mean ankle sprain - not sure though. Ankles are incredibly vulnerable with all these triple axel and quad attempts - and missing jumps is Misha's biggest problem so he likely was working on them a lot.

by Anonymousreply 255January 27, 2022 11:17 PM
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