Japanese and Russian Nationals going on this week.
Europeans to start on 10th January if Covid doesn't cancel them.
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Japanese and Russian Nationals going on this week.
Europeans to start on 10th January if Covid doesn't cancel them.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||January 27, 2022 11:17 PM|
Sakamoto wins Japanese nationals. Gutted for Mai but she made mistakes.
1 Kaori Sakamoto 234.06
2 Wakaba Higuchi 221.78
3 Mana Kawabe 209.65
4 Mai Mihara 206.86
5 Satoko Miyahara 206.51
6 Rinka Watanabe199.15
|by Anonymous||reply 1||December 25, 2021 12:46 PM|
Russian pairs now. Ladies FS follows
|by Anonymous||reply 2||December 25, 2021 12:48 PM|
Kaori’s SP- powerful and fast. I don’t always like watching her, but I really liked this.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||December 25, 2021 3:19 PM|
Hanyu’s SP; I posted a link earlier but the other video was taken down.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||December 25, 2021 3:22 PM|
Shoma’s SP while it lasts; the other video was taken down.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||December 25, 2021 3:27 PM|
Results from Russian Nationals
1 Kamila Valieva 283.48
2 Alexandra Trusova 248.65
3 Anna Shcherbakova 239.56
4 Adeliia Petrosian 233.97 (not Senor eligible)
5 Sofia Samodelkina 233.09 (not Senor eligible)
6 Sofia Muravieva 230.31 (not Senor eligible)
7 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 224.40
1 Mark Kondratiuk 284.37
2 Mikhail Kolyada 283.70
3 Andrei Mozalev 278.28
4 Evgeni Semenenko 274.28
5 Petr Gumennik 267.45
6 Alexander Samarin 264.73
1 Mishina/Galliamov 243.74
2 Boikova/Kozlovskii 239.87
3 Tarasova/Morozov 228.20
4 Pavliuchenko/Khodykin 220.18
5 Artemeva/Nazarychev 213.19
1 Stepanova/Bukin 223.37
2 Davis/Smolkin 207.70
3 Khudaiberdieva/Bazin 195.75
4 Morozov/Bagin 195.65
5 Shanaeva/Naryzhnyy 187.19
6 Skoptcova/Aleshin 185.72
Sinitsina/Katsalapov WD after RD because of his back's problems.
Olympic selection will be announced after European Championships. I see only Men third spot still opne IMO.
Ladies and Pair will be top 3 from Nationals. Dance will be S/K, S/B and D/S.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||December 25, 2021 8:15 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 7||December 25, 2021 10:32 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 8||December 26, 2021 9:35 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 9||December 26, 2021 9:36 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 10||December 26, 2021 9:37 AM|
At Beijing it will be a great battle between M/G, B/K and Sui/Han.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||December 26, 2021 9:37 AM|
R6 I wished Tukt had made it. I won’t even bother watching Eteri’s latest bots - yawn - as their life circle is so short anyway..
|by Anonymous||reply 12||December 26, 2021 10:35 AM|
Russian team for Euros is out.
They go with Nationals results except for Semenenko instead of Mozalev and obviously S/K added in ID
|by Anonymous||reply 13||December 26, 2021 11:06 AM|
Russian team for Euros is out.
They go with Nationals results except for Semenenko instead of Mozalev and obviously S/K added in ID
|by Anonymous||reply 14||December 26, 2021 11:07 AM|
Hanyu’s FS; first jumping pass was the underrotated 4A but otherwise looking good.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||December 26, 2021 12:46 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 16||December 26, 2021 1:12 PM|
R15 No hate but why are people get excited for these 4A<< by Juzu, which are equal to a 3A with bad GOEs? The judging system wants clean, well-executed jumps and does not reward bad attempts….
|by Anonymous||reply 17||December 26, 2021 1:58 PM|
Japan Olympic Team
|by Anonymous||reply 18||December 26, 2021 4:03 PM|
R18 Ugh, no Takahashi? I hope he continues and keeps bringing attention to ice dance in Japan.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||December 26, 2021 4:51 PM|
Olympics line-ups: what they look like
The situation in MEN was in the previous thread
Russia 3: Mishina/Galliamov, Boikova/Kozlovskii and Tarasova/Morozov
China 2: Sui/Han and Peng/Jin
Canada 2: well, they all regressed. Likely choices are James/Radford and Moore Tower/Marinaro
USA 2: 2 between Knierim/Frazier, Cain/LeDuc, Calalang/Johnson and Lu/Mitrofanov
Italy 2: Della Monica/Guarise, Ghilardi/Ambrosini
Czech Republic: Zhuk/Bidar
Hungary: Chtchetinina /Magyar
Spain: Barquero/Zandron (he still needs to receive his citizenship)
Georgia: Metelkina/Parkman or Safina/Bereluma. M/P got the Euro assignment.
Israel: Krasnopolski and his new new partner
|by Anonymous||reply 20||December 26, 2021 5:14 PM|
Russia 3: Sinitsina/Katsalapov, Stepanova/Bukin, Davis/Smolkin
USA 3: Hubbell/Donohue, Chock/Bates....and probably Hawayek/Baker
Canada 3: Gilles/Poirier, Fournier Beaudry /Sørensen, Lajoie/Lagha
Great Britain: Fear/Gibson
Spain: Smart/Diaz are confortably ahead of Hurtado/Khaliavin in the internal selection so far
Poland: Kaliszek / Spodyriev
Lithuania: Alison Reed has been refused citizenship twice. She has a last chance appeal. Otherwise their second weak couple whose names I can't remember will go
Armenia: Garabedian/Proulx Senecal
Finland: Turkkila / Versluis
Czech Republic: Taschler siblings
|by Anonymous||reply 21||December 26, 2021 5:21 PM|
Kazuki Tomono, FS - nice performance albeit not clean put him at 5th. He’s 23 but not planning to retire after this season.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||December 28, 2021 1:48 AM|
Alysa Liu changed the SP
|by Anonymous||reply 23||December 28, 2021 1:07 PM|
US Junior ice dancers "disappeared" from the rink and his ice partner suggests his family is holding him hostage
|by Anonymous||reply 24||December 31, 2021 9:25 AM|
R24, I haven’t heard any update about what happened to Tsarevski, but I found an article from a few months ago about this team:
“Off ice, both skaters are starting college – Flores at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs, Tsarevski at Pikes Peak Community College in Colorado Springs.
Tsarevksi is also preparing to audition at music schools, where he hopes to pursue a music-related degree (working remotely). Tsarevski has played the cello since he was 7 and wants to become a cello soloist.“
I hope he’s ok.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||January 1, 2022 3:40 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 26||January 1, 2022 3:41 PM|
Omg 😱 they are one of my favorite junior ice dance teams.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||January 1, 2022 3:49 PM|
There is an update posted on Anything GOEs now (link above) that says Dimitry is confirmed to be “physically okay”; but it says they won’t be skating at Nationals.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||January 1, 2022 4:12 PM|
Update by Flores
I am at a loss for words. As a lot of you know, I lost contact with him this weekend: We never heard from anyone, not him or his family to say anything, with nationals a week away. While we tried and got a hold of the police, after several visits, the police finally did hear from Dima and said he was okay. This seems pretty out of character because I know how much he was looking forward to Nationals and how hard we worked to get here, but the case is closed and there is nothing more that we can really do. I know from the bottom of my heart by both his actions and words, that skating was his form of expression and where he felt most free; i can only imagine how devastated he is right now.
I am not sure what this means for either one of our futures at this moment, but whatever happens, he will always be an important part of my life. I am so grateful for our friendship. We had a lot of fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||January 1, 2022 4:37 PM|
The Browns got Covid and are out of US Junior Dance Nationals.
Wolfkostin/Chen will do the Senior event.
Who is the left to win the Junior title now? Ling/Wein?
|by Anonymous||reply 30||January 2, 2022 11:27 PM|
Paul Poirier's new ad for Burberry:
|by Anonymous||reply 31||January 4, 2022 12:35 PM|
US Nationals TV Schedule
Thursday, Jan. 6 Pairs’ Short 5-7p, USA,
Thursday, Jan. 6 Women’s Short 8:30-10:30p, USA,
Friday, Jan. 7 Rhythm Dance 4-6p, USA,
Friday, Jan. 7 Women’s Free 8-11p, NBC,
Saturday, Jan. 8 Men’s Short 4-6p, NBC
Saturday, Jan. 8 Pairs’ Free & Free Dance 7-10p, USA,
Sunday, Jan. 9 Men’s Free 2-4p, NBC,
Non US viewers can watch on the Olympic Channel youtube
|by Anonymous||reply 32||January 5, 2022 10:54 PM|
R32 great, thanks!
|by Anonymous||reply 33||January 5, 2022 11:50 PM|
Frazier/Knierim are out because he tested positive to Covid yesterday
|by Anonymous||reply 34||January 6, 2022 10:03 AM|
Canadian nationals are this weekend too
Both James and Radford had Covid last week. No symptoms. They went back to ice this week. Unsure if they will skate afterall
Dechamps of Stellato/Deschamps also had covid and they went back to ice only this Monday.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||January 6, 2022 10:05 AM|
Canadian Nationals TV Schedule for CBC:
Saturday, January 8 (16:00 – 18:00 ET)
Sunday, January 9 (14:00 – 17:00 LOCAL)
|by Anonymous||reply 36||January 6, 2022 10:51 AM|
Michelle Kwan had a kid. No word on if there’s a dad figure involved, but she carried it herself.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||January 6, 2022 11:14 AM|
Are the female single skaters still able to backload their programs?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||January 6, 2022 11:41 AM|
Papadakis/Cizeron withdraw from European Championships scheduled for next week. They want to avoid the risk of getting Covid just before Olympics.
Loica Demougeot and Theo Le Mercier will take their place.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||January 6, 2022 1:00 PM|
R38 After 2018, they change the rule to "In the Short Program only 1 jumping element in the second half will recieve a 10% bonus and on the Free skate only 3 jumping elements in the second half will recieve a 10% bonus"
|by Anonymous||reply 40||January 6, 2022 1:02 PM|
[quote]Papadakis/Cizeron withdraw from European Championships scheduled for next week.
Does that mean they won't have enough ISU points to be in the final group for the short dance at the Olympics?
|by Anonymous||reply 41||January 6, 2022 1:06 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 42||January 6, 2022 1:27 PM|
I hope so, R41. P/c are grossly overrated a d ways afraid of showdown with S/K.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||January 6, 2022 1:27 PM|
R37, Kwan posted about her boyfriend on instagram last year. Unclear if he's the father (if she's still with him) or if she used a donor.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||January 6, 2022 1:28 PM|
Found the post about Kwan's partner on instagram.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||January 6, 2022 1:31 PM|
1) Cain/LeDuc 79.39
2) Calalang/Johnson 77.48
3) Lu/Mitrofanov 68.11
|by Anonymous||reply 46||January 6, 2022 11:35 PM|
The bitch Amber Glenn tanked like expected. Ugh. Thank good for Levito who put a beautiful short program in a rather depressing field. Is she too young to take to the Olympics and worlds? She should go. I hope the next group is an improvement from what we have seen thus far.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||January 7, 2022 2:18 AM|
R47 yes, too young
So Liu didn't change SP afterall. It was Karen Chen who had a new SP
Looks like we are aheading towards a Liu-Bell-Chen Olympic team
|by Anonymous||reply 48||January 7, 2022 8:47 AM|
Liu was a mess, she's lucky to be 3rd.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||January 7, 2022 9:13 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 50||January 7, 2022 10:14 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 51||January 7, 2022 10:14 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 52||January 7, 2022 10:15 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 53||January 7, 2022 10:16 AM|
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|by Anonymous||reply 55||January 7, 2022 10:17 AM|
I was in the arena last night. Gold, of course, hot the biggest standing ovation.
Liu was way oversized with the fall. Isabeau, a terrific young skater, deserved to be ahead of Liu.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||January 7, 2022 11:08 AM|
Bell is just beyond lovely. I hope she can keep it up tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||January 7, 2022 1:27 PM|
Liu out of the Free Skating because Covid
|by Anonymous||reply 58||January 7, 2022 9:56 PM|
Chock/Bates beat Hubbell/Donohue in the RD.
Issue on the twizzles for Hawayek and Green
1 Chock/Bates 91.94
2 Hubbell/Donohue 89.39
3 Green/Parsons 80.85
4 Hawayek/Baker 79.39
5 Carreira/Ponomarenko 77.90
6 Bratti/Somerville 76.70
7 Wolfkostin/Chen 75.28
8 Pate/Bye 73.06
9 McNamara/Spiridonov 73.04
10 Cesanek/Yehorov 70.07
11 Koncius/Shchepetov 52.63
12 Shilling/ODonnell 50.90
13 Cottrell/Palkhouski 49.92
14 Murphy/Levitt 40.49
|by Anonymous||reply 59||January 7, 2022 10:56 PM|
30 percent of the guys are Russians or Russia adjacent.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||January 8, 2022 2:30 AM|
I meant to add, in ice dance.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||January 8, 2022 2:47 AM|
I just net Misha Ge at the Championships! He's here as a coach and choreographer.
Misha is taller and skinnier than I expected.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||January 8, 2022 3:06 AM|
Mariah Bell win's US ladies titlle, Karen Chen 2nd, Isabeau Levito 3rd (too young for Olympics).
Ge is filling in for Todd Eldredge as coach for Panoit because Eldredge tested positive for covid on arrival.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||January 8, 2022 1:48 PM|
Ge is coaching/choreographingmore than one athlete here.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||January 8, 2022 8:10 PM|
USA Women Olympic Team announced.
As expected it is Bell, Chen and Liu. Thorngren is first atlernate. Glenn and Izzo are the other 2 alternates.
Meanwhile, Madeline Schizas won Canadian Nationals very easily given the state of women skating there. Dance as expected with Gilles/Poirier, Fournier/Sorensen and Lajoie/Lagha on the podium and likely getting their 3 Olympic spots. James/Radford WD from Pair FS
|by Anonymous||reply 65||January 8, 2022 10:28 PM|
Alyssa Liu looked a mess in an interview she did either before or after her SP (before it was announced that she had covid) I just remember thinking how unkempt and well.......GREASY her hair looked. (Well, what do you except? I am a Datalounger, after all) Does she not even care enough to wash her hair?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||January 8, 2022 10:29 PM|
And before anyone does it, I will "Oh, DEAR!" myself. I meant, What do you expect?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||January 8, 2022 10:30 PM|
Ilia Malinin was spectacular. Can't remember a better first showing by anyone (other than that current Russian girl who is literally other-worldly).
|by Anonymous||reply 68||January 8, 2022 11:02 PM|
My goodness, this has to be the most talented group of US male skaters in recent memory. I would have given Vincent the win in the short program. Ilia Malinin should have been a few more points closer to the top two.
Artur Dmitriev Jr. competing at US nationals? I was shocked when he came out on the screen. lol At 29 he is probably doing it for the love of the sport. His best days, the very few he had, are probably behind him. Love seeing him again.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||January 8, 2022 11:07 PM|
Jason Brown’s SP
|by Anonymous||reply 70||January 8, 2022 11:23 PM|
R68. I was in the arena. Ilia was indeed fantastic and had the crowd eating out of his hand. True showman.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||January 8, 2022 11:28 PM|
Mariah Bell FS
|by Anonymous||reply 72||January 8, 2022 11:30 PM|
Ilia Malinin SP
|by Anonymous||reply 73||January 8, 2022 11:32 PM|
Reading the news reports about this event, analysts are saying the quality of skating in the US women event is FAR BELOW the quality of skating by the Russian and Japanese women
American women still have not caught up to the rest of the world
|by Anonymous||reply 74||January 9, 2022 12:18 AM|
[quote] Can't remember a better first showing by anyone (other than that current Russian girl who is literally other-worldly).
Do you know the name of the female skater you are referring to? I’d love to see her skate.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||January 9, 2022 12:25 AM|
R75, I think he means Kamila Valieva.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||January 9, 2022 12:48 AM|
Brian Johnson has the best beefy ass in the entire competition.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||January 9, 2022 1:14 AM|
Just watched her long r76. No one is beating that girl!
|by Anonymous||reply 78||January 9, 2022 1:58 AM|
Thanks, R76. I did mean Kamila. She is un-be-lievable. She's better than every guy except Nathan and maybe Yuzuru.
I really hope Ilia makes it to the Olympics and goes for the quad-quad in the free. He'll put everyone on notice.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||January 9, 2022 2:26 AM|
Liu is over it--too much pressure too early to save American Ladies skating. Not expecting any miracles with the American Ladies at the Olympics, but at least Mariah Bell and Karen Chen are beautiful watch even though they lack sufficient triple-triples. And maybe Liu will get her zip back for the Olympics.
Liu's going by she/they. Rebelling against the sequins and dress-up? Baby lesbian?
The Men, ojn the other hand, look terrific.
So is the US looking at bronze for the Olympics team competition or is there a chance of silver? I'm just catching up on the ins and outs of the last couple of years.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||January 9, 2022 5:24 AM|
Liu looked large - not for ordinary person standards but for female figure skating. Like 5 ft 6 or some such Amazonian size. The Witt, Kostner and Pogorilaya days are behind us.
And why will the US send quadless Brown instead of Ilia Malinin? Just determined to kill the sport here? (not far to go, esp if Chen retires to be a Yalie engineer or whatever - and I think his hips are messed up and that's why his landings are so stiff)
|by Anonymous||reply 81||January 9, 2022 5:36 AM|
* oops I meant Maria Sotskova @ 5ft8. So many Russians I can't keep them straight.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||January 9, 2022 5:39 AM|
Chock/Bates won over Hubbell/Donohue. Hawayek/Baker third
R80 Silver. Japan is too poor in Ice Dance.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||January 9, 2022 8:54 AM|
I have to say, given how little I watch figure skating these days, it is a shock to see how much single ladies has changed. I’m an old from the days of Dick Button. I miss the artistry of the old days. I can see how someone like Kamila brings artistry to how she moves between jumps but it’s just so different now.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||January 9, 2022 9:43 AM|
R84, nowadays it's all about racki g up the most points and less about true artistry or special moments.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||January 9, 2022 9:48 AM|
R78 Whatever, as as she disappears as fast as Zagitova whose skating I still hate.....
|by Anonymous||reply 86||January 9, 2022 2:35 PM|
R84 PCS have been meaningless for a while because they account for way less variance in scores than the tech. They make almost no difference.....Figure Skating in Single's today = whoever put the most clean quads wins
|by Anonymous||reply 87||January 9, 2022 2:38 PM|
R87, then explain how Jason Brown keeps placing ahead of so many guys who can do quads? He's never going to win anything, but he still manages to place higher than tons of quad boys. The current scoring system is FAR superior to the old 6.0 scale which was completely political.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||January 9, 2022 3:47 PM|
USA Pair Olympic nominations
Ashley Cain-Gribble/Timothy LeDuc
Alexa Knierim/Brandon Frazier
|by Anonymous||reply 89||January 9, 2022 4:06 PM|
They all stink, especially the females.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||January 9, 2022 4:12 PM|
USFSA Ice Dance selections
Madison Chock and Evan Bates
Kaitlin Hawayek and Jean-Luc Baker
Madison Hubbell and Zachary Donohue
Alternate 1 – Caroline Green and Michael Parsons
Alternate 2 – Emily Bratti and Ian Somerville
Alternate 3 - Katarina Wolfkostin and Jeffrey Chen
2022 World Championships
Madison Chock and Evan Bates
Kaitlin Hawayek and Jean-Luc Baker
Madison Hubbell and Zachary Donohue
Alternate 1 – Caroline Green and Michael Parsons
Alternate 2 – Emily Bratti and Ian Somerville
Alternate 3 – Christina Carreira and Anthony Ponomarenko
2022 Four Continents Championships
Emily Bratti and Ian Somerville
Christina Carreira and Anthony Ponomarenko
Caroline Green and Michael Parsons
Alternate 1 – Eva Pate and Logan Bye
Alternate 2 – Lorraine McNamara and Anton Spiridonov
Alternate 3 – Molly Cesanek and Yehor Yehorov
2022 World Junior Championships
Oona Brown and Gage Brown
Angela Ling and Caleb Wein
Katarina Wolfkostin and Jeffrey Chen
Alternate 1 – Leah Neset and Artem Markelov
Alternate 2 – Helena Carhart and Volodymyr Horovyi
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|by Anonymous||reply 91||January 9, 2022 4:58 PM|
How exciting was it to see young Ilia Malinin do so well and give promise for the future of men's skating in the US?
|by Anonymous||reply 92||January 9, 2022 5:16 PM|
Canada’s Olympic Team
Women: Madeline Schizas
Men: Keegan Messing, Roman Sadovsky
Pairs: Kirsten Moore-Towers / Michael Marinaro, Vanessa James / Eric Radford
Ice dance: Piper Gilles / Paul Poirier, Laurence Fournier Beaudry / Nikolaj Sørensen, Marjorie Lajoie / Zachary Lagha
|by Anonymous||reply 93||January 9, 2022 5:31 PM|
The state of US ladies figure skating makes me sad. With the exception of the 14-year-old Junior champion, they all looked so slow and heavy out there, doing triple-double combinations, not even triple-triple. Please tell me that there are more like Levito on the way.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||January 9, 2022 7:35 PM|
R66, I imagine Liu wasn't in the best state seeing as she was unknowingly incubating covid. Explains her rough sp too. She's the US's only real hope in ladies, hope she's recoverded in time for the olympics.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||January 9, 2022 8:22 PM|
These male skaters are so damn dramatic.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||January 9, 2022 8:25 PM|
How old are these female Russian single champs? They all are very tiny with bodies that look like they haven’t developed yet. With the demand for triples and quads only 13 and 14 year olds can be competitive these days it seems like.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||January 9, 2022 8:26 PM|
Zhou really shitting the bed here in this free skate.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||January 9, 2022 8:29 PM|
R88 Yes, I forgot one important ingredient: Transitions. There must be many transitions, especially in and out of jumps. The quality of the transitions doesn’t matter as long as they are plenty and look complex. Jumps must not be telegraphed….GOE account for a lot of variances in total scores.
That explains why (a clean, not URed) Jason wins over guys who do low-quality or telegraphed quads with few transitions….
But let’s be real, if Jason were from a small fed he would never see those kind of score that makes him a contender….
|by Anonymous||reply 99||January 9, 2022 8:42 PM|
R88 The current judging system is far inferior to the old system in producing champions who I like to watch and follow (Zagitova, anyone?). This is one of the main reasons why FS is not attractive to the mainstream in western countries anymore. And I would say artistry and skating skills have greatly suffered, now they are literally just an afterthought ….
|by Anonymous||reply 100||January 9, 2022 8:51 PM|
Ilia killed it today and deserves a spot on the Olympic team. Sorry, Jason.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||January 9, 2022 9:07 PM|
South Korea’s Olympic Team announced
|by Anonymous||reply 102||January 9, 2022 9:15 PM|
[quote]The current judging system is far inferior to the old system in producing champions who I like to watch and follow (Zagitova, anyone?).
The last US woman that I bothered to follow was Sasha Cohen, mostly because she was such a gorgeous skater until she tried to land jumps. Poor thing. Everyone since then has been 100% forgettable. Rachel Flatt?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||January 9, 2022 9:18 PM|
Interest in figure skating has waned in recent years because US skaters are nowhere near the podium.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||January 9, 2022 9:23 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 105||January 9, 2022 10:27 PM|
[quote]Interest in figure skating has waned in recent years because US skaters are nowhere near the podium.
What he meant to say is: Interest in figure skating has waned in recent years because white US skaters are nowhere near the podium.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||January 9, 2022 10:29 PM|
USFSA is looking down all the way at the Novice Ladies division to see what is coming through the ranks
Because right now and the next couple of years will be a continued desert for the American women
|by Anonymous||reply 107||January 9, 2022 10:33 PM|
R104 Interest in Europe is very low, too. Aliona Savchenko gave Germany many many world titles but the public didn’t care at all. They only cared for her LP at the Olympics 2018 but only because the program was stunning and so beautiful….
Under the old system, figure skating competitions were like some sort of beauty contest. Probably not as transparent and analytical as the new system, but much much more fun and engaging for casual people who don’t care about minute details….
|by Anonymous||reply 108||January 9, 2022 10:34 PM|
R107 Why don’t they take some girls from Russia to the US? This seems to be the trend in mens but also pairs and ice dance.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||January 9, 2022 10:36 PM|
They need to tell Jason it’s time and send that kid to the Olympics. Or fuck over that trumptard Zhou.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||January 9, 2022 10:38 PM|
Who are the top contenders for the Olympics?
|by Anonymous||reply 111||January 9, 2022 10:41 PM|
The whole scoring system needs to be revamped. Because Figure skating has becoming a jumping contest and the person who jumps the most wins. Back in the old days a jumper would be held back. and given time to develop.
That is not what figure skating is about. They should put MORE points on edge control, speed, flow, transitions between the jumps - and cut the points awarded to jumps in half - that is what will get figure skating back to what it is - about skating NOT jumping.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||January 9, 2022 10:43 PM|
After Sasha Cohen Olympic Silver Medal is when Ladies Figure Skating in USA went downhill
as they have not medaled at the Olympics since 2006 - despite medalling in every Olympics since 1968
and they have only won ONE medal at worlds since 2006 - despite medalling every year for the past 30 years at that point
|by Anonymous||reply 113||January 9, 2022 10:46 PM|
R111 Eteri’s latest flagship Valieva is a lock for the ladies’ gold. Chen will win among the men except he has one of those very rare, bad performances. Pairs will be Russians against Sui/Han. Ice dance between Papadakis/Cizeron and Sinitsina/Katsalapov. But of course, COVID could eliminate any contender…..
|by Anonymous||reply 114||January 9, 2022 10:48 PM|
R113 What about Evan L, Davis/White etc…Was it only enough for Dancing with the Stars?
|by Anonymous||reply 115||January 9, 2022 10:51 PM|
R110 Where is the proof that Zhou supports Trump?
|by Anonymous||reply 116||January 9, 2022 10:53 PM|
A fall on a jump should be -10, to put it in magnitude closer to the old system. And no more "rotated in the air" bullshit.
Chen skated well today, but bitch fell twice. The days of figure skating people remember (corrupt as they were) was easier to follow: be artistic and land your jumps.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||January 9, 2022 10:53 PM|
R100, artistry and skating skills are NOT an afterthought. You still have to have them to win. Nathan can really skate as can Kamila Valieva AND they have the jumps. If Jason Brown could land two quads, he'd win everything. So you're missing the fantastic artistry of Elaine Zayak and Nicole Bobek and Timothy Goebel? Please, bitch.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||January 9, 2022 10:53 PM|
Except for Valieva none of the Olympic golds are locked. Even if Kamila gets disqualified if she gets positive test, 100% a Russian will win Women's gold. I would say Sui/Han should take the gold unless they make a major error. Judges will push them against the baby Russians. The French look good for gold too as the Russians appear to have some health issues and I don't see Americans doing it.
However, I think Chen vs. Hanyu will be a nailbiter.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||January 9, 2022 10:54 PM|
R118 It’s not that Chen can’t skate at all or there is no musicality or no style in his skating. But he is clearly not the best in these regards, although he usually gets 9s in PCS. I have never heard anybody calling him a beautiful skater, everybody just talks about his jumps. The problem ist that others who are clearly more skillful and invested in artistry and skating skills get too little reward for it. Jason Brown gets as much credit for his artistry as possible under this system (except loosing to Chen in PCS usually) but just in this competitions Camden Pulkinen and even Jimmy Ma delivered much better artistry in my opinion. But what they “need” to “move up” under the current system are consistent performances with many clean quads foremost, let’s be real.
I have never watched Valieva because I boycott Eteri’s system now. But let’s not forget Trusova who has terrible skating skills and no artistry. Or Zagitova with her terrible, hunched posture and whose programs were full of backloaded gimmicks that seem so insignificant today.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||January 9, 2022 11:10 PM|
R119 I’m not optimistic regarding Hanyu. He is old by now and has had many injuries. A bad fall on his 4A attempt (which seems totally hopeless at this point) could take him out in the free program…
|by Anonymous||reply 121||January 9, 2022 11:16 PM|
The Russian ladies are doping and it lessens their accomplishments. Russia is banned from the Olympics so why are they competing while continuing to dope?
Liu pings to me. Whoever said she might be a baby Lesbian might be right. Please send the wonderkid Ilia Malinin to the Olympics. He has great jumping technique. Those jumps are fully rotated. You don't have to worry about underrotation when you watch him.
Nathan falling on his face lol....I am so sorry but I was laughing hysterically. So unexpected yet so funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||January 9, 2022 11:21 PM|
He was laughing too.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||January 9, 2022 11:37 PM|
If you hold a national championship and one skater clearly beats another, why would you have to consider the " body of work"? If you have a Super Bowl with one team at 16-1 and the other at 9-8, but the 9-8 team beats the 16-1 team 28-10, they don't organize a committee to consider the entire season and award the trophy to the 16-1 team. Brown is a beautiful skater who cannot land the quads needed to be competitive on the world stage. His day has passed. Time to give the spot to the kid in order to prepare him for the next Olympics, when the experience will not seem new and intimidating. He is the future of US skating, not Jason Brown. At least he has a chance to do well, since he has all of the jumps needed to be competitive.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||January 9, 2022 11:43 PM|
R120, JIMMY MA?!?!?!?! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
And Camden did fine, but he's not even in the same league as Nathan, even in just skating skills.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||January 9, 2022 11:52 PM|
Canada team for 4 Continents is as depressing as they can get. Women are the true gem.
Wesley CHIU Corey CIRCELLI Joseph PHAN
Gabrielle DALEMAN Véronik MALLET Alison SCHUMACHER
Lori Ann MATTE / Thierry FERLAND Deanna STELLATO / Maxime DESCHAMPS Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD
Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC Haley SALES / Nikolas WAMSTEEKER Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS
|by Anonymous||reply 126||January 9, 2022 11:56 PM|
R106, the real issue is lack of ladies' contenders in the US. Americans loved Asian-American Michelle Kwan, they didn't GAF about 2010 OGM winner Evan Lysacek.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||January 10, 2022 12:05 AM|
USA Olympic Team
|by Anonymous||reply 128||January 10, 2022 12:06 AM|
R125 Nathan is only than Camden in skating skills and transitions. I think Camden has much better carriage, lines, timing, emotional expression and commitment to to the program. Camden is a beautiful skater which Chen is not to me….I really don’t care about his Chen’s skating and would not miss one thing he were to stop skating right now. Jimmy Ma has interesting programs and very good skating skills.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||January 10, 2022 12:12 AM|
OMG, I can't believe those morons are letting Jason Brown go instead of Ilia.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||January 10, 2022 12:12 AM|
I hope Jason Brown gets COVID and can't compete.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||January 10, 2022 12:13 AM|
USFSA is dumb for naming Jason, and I say that as a fan of his.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||January 10, 2022 12:20 AM|
Wow. They have made such a huge mistake. That kid should be going, not Jason Brown.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||January 10, 2022 12:45 AM|
Is Malinin age eligible though?
|by Anonymous||reply 134||January 10, 2022 12:51 AM|
I'm so annoyed that I hope Chen chokes (again) and the US men don't medal at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||January 10, 2022 1:00 AM|
Yes, R134; he's 17. It is a huge blunder.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||January 10, 2022 1:11 AM|
US Figure Skating is run by idiots. Ilia is the future of US men, and he needs to be in the 2022 Olympics.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||January 10, 2022 1:47 AM|
America gonna America. Jason Brown will get 17th.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||January 10, 2022 2:34 AM|
[quote] (Malinin) has great jumping technique. Those jumps are fully rotated.
His 4T-3T was 1/4-1/4 cheated on the end and he just slightly toe-axels the takeoffs (too much weight shifting off the right to the left foot). And his 3A is nearly 1/2 cheated on the takeoff, a really obvious skid. But strangely the more difficult 4Lz was clean, although borderline flutzy. Still better than Brown and Chou.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||January 10, 2022 2:41 AM|
You can damn well bet the Russians wouldn't be sentimental about selecting the team. It isn't like they are letting Tuk go just because she's had more international experience.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||January 10, 2022 2:50 AM|
R116, he hasn’t always been pro-Trump. He posted opposition to Trump’s ban of trans people in the military in 2017. There was a period in 2018, when he was 17, where he liked some conservative posts on Twitter. Nothing like that in years since that I know of. He’s never been anti-gay; he may have had posts considered anti-trans years ago, but not in the sense of taking away anti-discrimination rights- more along the lines of believing in the physical validity of XX, XY.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||January 10, 2022 2:50 AM|
R141, basically Vincent is your typical DL'er.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||January 10, 2022 3:30 AM|
Well, Zhou has gone up a notch or two in my opinion.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||January 10, 2022 3:31 AM|
I hope the US loses the team competition to Russia and Japan just to spite it for not choosing Ilia, one of the few men to break 300 points this season.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||January 10, 2022 3:32 AM|
R138, Brown will probably finish a dependable bottom half of the top 10 like he has the last 3 years at worlds. However he has little to no prayer of a medal while Malinin could perhaps get one with a performance like at nationals. Malinin could also end up in last place if he bombed like at his only senior international last year.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||January 10, 2022 7:22 AM|
Malinin wouldn't be skating in the team competition no matter what. I'm guessing the team will be Knierman/Frazier for pairs,; Alysa Liu for the Ladies since she has the technical scores; H/D and C/B will double up in ice dance; and Chen and Zhou in men's.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||January 10, 2022 8:57 AM|
I forget the rules with the team event, but are they allowed to only have one skater compete in the singles like R146 is suggesting with Liu? Can we borrow the third Russian ladies skater who won't get to compete in the ROC team event?
|by Anonymous||reply 147||January 10, 2022 9:13 AM|
R147 they can split only 2 disciplines
|by Anonymous||reply 148||January 10, 2022 9:21 AM|
I believe two disciplines get two competitors and two get one. That's how it was last time when the Shibs petitioned to be the only ice dancing team.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||January 10, 2022 9:24 AM|
It is not mandatory to split. One can keep the same 4 in both SP and FS
|by Anonymous||reply 150||January 10, 2022 9:29 AM|
European Championships schedule
Wednesday, January 12th
11:25 Men Short Program
18:00 Opening Ceremony
18:45 Pairs Short Program
Thursday, January 13th
11:05 Women Short Program
19:00 Pairs Free Program
Friday, January 14th
12:00 Ice Dance Rhythm Dance
18:00 Men Free Program
Saturday, January 15th
13:35 Ice Dance Free Dance
18:30 Women Free Program
Sunday, January 16th
15:30 Exhibition Gala
There was a wave of withdrawals yesterday between positive Covid tests, teams deciding not to travel (all Israeli entries withdrew) and some injuries. Notable withdrawals include Kolyada (replaced by Molazev) and Rizzo (replaced by Memola).
|by Anonymous||reply 151||January 10, 2022 9:49 AM|
Then, r101, why have Qualifying?
In other news: I bought my Floor Row, Center-Rink Seat, ticket for "Stars on Ice" this Spring! Saw the tour last time, with Nathan Chen, Jason Brown, and other champions, and they are listed for this tour, also! And they do quads.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||January 10, 2022 10:40 AM|
The Olympic Channel is repeating the U.S. Women's Skating today, and the Men's Tuesday.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||January 10, 2022 10:44 AM|
R93, I feel sorry for Walsh & Michaud. I don't think it's fair that Skate Canada is sending James & Radford, who pulled out of Canadian Nationals. James & Radford are a decent team, but it's not like they are World medalists. I don't think they should get an automatic "bye" to the Olympics, particularly since they've only been a team for less than a year.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||January 10, 2022 1:20 PM|
R154, Radfrod is a 2 time world champion and Olympic gold medalist. Vanessa is a recent European Champion and Grand Prix Final Champion. It does not matter is they done it with different partners. They have more potential to place higher than W/M. It's a smart decision by Canada.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||January 10, 2022 2:38 PM|
Wow, really stupid not to send Malinin. How can you not send a skater who broke the 300 points mark? Zhou is inconsistent but defending World Bronze medalist, so it makes sense to send him. As someone posted upthread, Brown is usually bottom half of top ten. He has little to no medal chances. Malinin would at least have a shot at a medal. Malinin is the future. Why not expose him to his first Olympics? USFSA has always been stupid, but this ranks as one of their worst blunders.
Malinin does need to work on his skating in between jumps, but with those pristine quads the international judges will have a jerkfest over him. Fuck, Plushenko had no choreography in 2006 and straight up admitted in the press and the judges gazzed over his shitty program because he was the best jumper.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||January 10, 2022 4:19 PM|
Jason Brown owes Ilia Malinin a voracious blowjob for stealing his spot on the Olympic team.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||January 10, 2022 6:33 PM|
[quote] Zhou is inconsistent but defending World Bronze medalist,
Defending World Bronze is Hanyu. 2021 Worlds were 1) Chen 2) Kagyama 3) Hanyu. Brown was 7th and Zhou was cut after the Short (25th)
|by Anonymous||reply 158||January 10, 2022 8:08 PM|
R155 I generally agree, but they looked so blown over by covid I don't know if they'll be fit enough by the Olympics. They're also both asses as people, so I wouldn't be sad if they were still too weak to compete and the Canadian silver medalists filled in.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||January 10, 2022 8:37 PM|
European Championships TV schedule (Eastern Standard Time):
Thursday Jan. 13. 8AM - 10AM. Women's short program
Thursday Jan. 13 12PM - 2PM. Men's short program
Friday Jan.14. 1PM -3PM. Men's free program
Saturday Jan. 15. 1PM - 3PM. Women's free program
The above are all on the E! channel.
Sunday Jan. 16. 4PM - 6PM. Replay of men's and women's free programs on NBC
|by Anonymous||reply 160||January 10, 2022 8:40 PM|
My bad, R158. I should have written Zhou is a former World bronze medalist from 2019. I forgot they did have Worlds last year. I mistakenly thought it was skipped like they did in 2020. I used to pay close attention to skating. Not so much anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||January 10, 2022 9:06 PM|
I suppose it is too much to hope that Jason Brown would bow out gracefully so that Ilia could go instead? It isn't like Jason hasn't been to the Olympics before and he knows good and well he isn't medaling.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||January 10, 2022 9:52 PM|
What are the reasons the U.S. has fallen so far behind in figure skating? It seems like there always used to be contenders from the US at every Worlds and Olympics. In years past - 20 years ago and more. At least in Ladies' singles and Men's singles there were always contenders from the U.S. The Pairs and Dance would usually have at least one couple from the U.S. who were vying for bronze. Why has the U.S. fallen so far behind?
|by Anonymous||reply 163||January 10, 2022 10:10 PM|
R162, Jason Brown didn't go through 5 cancelled flights, lost costumes, road tripping the final 250 miles to Nashville, then competing coachless after having his coach test positive on arrival to bow out of the Olympics. He obviously wants to go.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||January 10, 2022 10:25 PM|
The US still has the strongest male team in the world.
Russia is doping in the ladies which makes it difficult to asses how far behind the rest of the world has fallen from previous eras. I imagine Japan and Russia would be battling out for world titles if it weren't for the doping.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||January 10, 2022 10:30 PM|
Not sending Ilia and Green/Parsons is a huge mistake. The USFSA is not taking care of its future. People need to be fired for this gigantic mistake.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||January 10, 2022 10:33 PM|
Hunh? Why send Green/Parsons over the consistent top three. Both Hubbell/Donohue and Chock/Bates have a chance of medalling and will contribute to the team medal. Hawayek/Baker have been solid for years and can move in. All the placements will shift after the Olympics anyway, so Green/Parsons will get their chance.
I think there is an argument for Ilia. I don't see Chen or Jason going to 2026 and I think Zhou might ease out too unless he starts getting to the top of the podium.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||January 10, 2022 10:45 PM|
[quote]The US still has the strongest male team in the world.
Hanyu/Uno/Kagiyama is a stronger overall trio even if Chen is dominant over Hanyu right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||January 10, 2022 11:13 PM|
Some possible reasons for the dearth (death?) of figure skating in the US: the rise of gymnastics - and parents with money are more likely to put their girls in that? just bad luck that no stars emerged after Ashley? Ice shows used to be a big thing but they aren't any more. Maybe the rise of cable tv and so many channels and then social media decimated tv ratings for everything. There was a time when the weekend "Wide World of Sports" had nearly everyone watching figure skating - now, not many do - there are too many other things to do.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||January 11, 2022 3:01 AM|
American girls are fat.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||January 11, 2022 4:31 AM|
Girls can participate in many more sports now than they could in the past.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||January 11, 2022 4:44 AM|
American girls' bodies are suited for figure skating between 8-12. After that, they balloon.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||January 11, 2022 5:10 AM|
Mariah Bell is still tiny at 25. That's probably why she can still compete, R172.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||January 11, 2022 8:20 AM|
R166, I wish they'd sent Ilia, but there was no justification from sending Green/Parsons, especially after they finished 4th at nationals.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||January 11, 2022 9:15 AM|
Moscow-based Russian ice dance coach and former competitor Alexander Zhulin on American pairs skater Timothy LeDuc's declaring as non-binary.
"What category will he perform in - men or women? Is he paired with a woman? He himself is like a man, it means. And initially he was a man, it turns out. How do I feel about this? Oh, yes, I don’t want to comment on these freaks, I don’t want, I don’t want to, ” Zhulin said.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||January 11, 2022 9:59 AM|
Russians are such assholes, I love it.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||January 11, 2022 10:03 AM|
Ilia. They'd better let him compete at Worlds.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||January 11, 2022 11:07 AM|
R177, Ilis has been named to the world team so long as he gets the technical minimum score to compete required by the ISU.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||January 11, 2022 3:24 PM|
A skater who earned 4th is somehow supposed to be overlooked or to resign in order to give a proven lesser performer "experience" because he's "the future"?
Qualifying is, or used to be, you know, for qualifying.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||January 11, 2022 4:54 PM|
OMG, I can't believe I didn't know Ilia finished second, and I WATCHED THE EVENT!
Okay, I rescind r179, and will now go eat some raw crow.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||January 11, 2022 5:01 PM|
European Championships Men Short Program Starting Order for tomorrow.
34 skaters...so it lasts more than 4 and a half hours.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||January 11, 2022 5:02 PM|
The 17-year-old is the future and actually has a shot at a medal. Jason Brown already had his Olympic experience four years ago and has no shot at an individual medal. US Figure Skating still has one foot in the past and act like they are hoping the 6.0 scale returns.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||January 11, 2022 5:19 PM|
Only one pairs team gets to go to the games this year?
|by Anonymous||reply 183||January 11, 2022 5:27 PM|
Two pairs go--LeDuc/Cain and Knerim/Notherhusband
US qualified three in all other disciplines
|by Anonymous||reply 184||January 11, 2022 7:47 PM|
I wondered what you were referencing, R179/R180. It's Jason "No Jumps" Brown who finished a distant fourth to the fantastic 17 year-old. What do you have to say now for "qualifying?" They might as well not have even held the national championships; they weren't going to do anything other than send the three they've had in the commercials all along. It was a sham.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||January 11, 2022 8:18 PM|
[quote] Hanyu/Uno/Kagiyama is a stronger overall trio even if Chen is dominant over Hanyu right now.
Hanyu is a has been that hasn't won a world title in many years. Of course the US has a stronger men's program. The world medals do not lie.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||January 11, 2022 8:24 PM|
Doesn't look "finished" here.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||January 11, 2022 8:56 PM|
R184, Glad I'm the only one who can't remember Knierem's partners name. I'm kind of rooting for her. I like a tough cookie.
So Deanna Stellato's skating for Canada now? Does she have a shot at getting to the Olympics?
Hubbell/Donohue are great ice dancers, but not super bright--they could have held silver and even gotten a gold when P/C were out if they managed to be A)consistent and B) consistently picked music and programs that played to their strengths. Instead, they're duking it out with the slower, smaller Chock/Bates.
I feel for Hawayek/Baker. They're good, musical, but he's just so damn tiny that they always look a little off in their proportions and it hurts them. They're going to get their Olympics, but then I think the judges will just move other teams ahead of them after H/D and C/B retire.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||January 11, 2022 9:07 PM|
Hubbell and Donohue seem insufferable. I wish Chock and Bates had repeated their long program from last year again because it was a huge winner (the snake).
|by Anonymous||reply 189||January 11, 2022 9:10 PM|
Ilia is posting 4t/4t combinations on social media. This kid is smart.
He knows the USFSA is already regretting not sending him to the Olympics [where he has met the required scores to compete]. Omicron will likely not allow him to compete another time in order to get the required scores for worlds.
IS 4CC happening this year?
|by Anonymous||reply 190||January 11, 2022 9:11 PM|
[quote] IS 4CC happening this year?
yes, next week. In Estonia....really.
B teams for everyone except Korea.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||January 11, 2022 9:21 PM|
The 4 Continents entries
1 Jordan DODDS AUS
2 Brendan KERRY AUS
3 James MIN AUS
4 Wesley CHIU CAN
5 Corey CIRCELLI CAN
6 Joseph PHAN CAN
7 Harrison Jon-Yen WONG HKG
8 Kao MIURA JPN
9 Sena MIYAKE JPN
10 Kazuki TOMONO JPN
11 Dias JIRENBAYEV KAZ
12 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ
13 Junhwan CHA KOR
14 Jaeseok KYEONG KOR
15 Sihyeong LEE KOR
16 Matthew SAMUELS RSA
17 Tomoki HIWATASHI USA
18 Jimmy MA USA
19 Camden PULKINEN USA
1 Victoria ALCANTARA AUS
2 Kailani CRAINE AUS
3 Gabrielle DALEMAN CAN
4 Veronik MALLET CAN
5 Alison SCHUMACHER CAN
6 Tara PRASAD IND
7 Rino MATSUIKE JPN
8 Mai MIHARA JPN
9 Yuhana YOKOI JPN
10 Yelim KIM KOR
11 Haein LEE KOR
12 Young YOU KOR
13 Eugenia GARZA MEX
14 Andrea MONTESINOS CANTU MEX
15 Jocelyn HONG NZL
16 Sofia Lexi Jacqueline FRANK PHI
17 Tzu-Han TING TPE
18 Starr ANDREWS USA
19 Gabriella IZZO USA
20 Audrey SHIN USA
1 Lori-Ann MATTE / Thierry FERLAND CAN
2 Deanna STELLATO-DUDEK / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN
3 Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD CAN
4 Emily CHAN / Spencer Akira HOWE USA
5 Audrey LU / Misha MITROFANOV USA
6 Katie MCBEATH / Nathan BARTHOLOMAY USA
1 Holly HARRIS / Jason CHAN AUS
2 India NETTE / Eron WESTWOOD AUS
3 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC CAN
4 Haley SALES / Nikolas WAMSTEEKER CAN
5 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN
6 Kana MURAMOTO / Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN
7 Charlotte LAFOND-FOURNIER / Richard Kang In KAM NZL
8 Emily BRATTI / Ian SOMERVILLE USA
9 Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA
10 Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONS USA
|by Anonymous||reply 192||January 11, 2022 9:39 PM|
R188, Deanna Stellato isn't a Canadian citizen so wasn't eligible to go to the Olympics for Canada this year. Maybe she'll stick around in another 4 years, when she'll be 42, like that British pairs skater in her 40s?
|by Anonymous||reply 193||January 11, 2022 9:42 PM|
That's not even the B team for American Ladies, that's the C team. The B team is going to the Olympics. We don't really have an A team--maybe Bradie Tennell and then one of the head cases when they're on, but Bradie's out and I won't be surprised if she retires, frankly. She can't work on the big jumps with a foot injury and she's not competitive internationally without them. She's already been US Champ twice and has an Olympic team bronze, so she's gone as far as she can without a triple axel or a quad.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||January 11, 2022 10:43 PM|
Thanks for posting Hanyu's short program skate from Japanese Nationals, R187. He and Chen should battle it out at the Olympics, or at least that's what I hope. For me, Hanyu is the more complete skater. His rivalry with Chen reminds me a bit of Brian Orser and Brian Boitano. Orser was once the one who upped the technical content while being like a dancer on ice, but along came Boitano the technician who just nipped him at the 1988 Olympics. The Battle of the Brians was an epic sports event. Similarly, Hanyu upped the technical content but had the overall program components to present a complete package, but then along came the technical merit of Chen who upped the quad jumping difficulty. Chen, like Boitano, has worked a lot on his in between skating, but Hanyu, like Orser, is a more naturally lyrical, elegant skater. I prefer Hanyu's skating myself.
I also liked the Japanese graphics better than what NBC shows. It showed height, distance, how much ground Hanyu covered over the ice and how fast. Far superior to the stupid color coded graphic NBC showed, although the Japanese broadcast included that info as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||January 11, 2022 10:45 PM|
Junhwan Cha SP at Korean Nationals a few days ago - another of Orser’s students…
|by Anonymous||reply 196||January 11, 2022 11:38 PM|
The poor Aussie skaters - do they ever finish well enough to get to the Winter games?
|by Anonymous||reply 197||January 11, 2022 11:55 PM|
Johnny Weir is now part of the USFS Hall of Fame…
|by Anonymous||reply 198||January 11, 2022 11:57 PM|
R197, here’s an article on the Aussie skaters.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||January 12, 2022 12:04 AM|
Thanks for posting R199.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||January 12, 2022 12:40 AM|
Has US Figure Skating decided who goes to Beijing as alternates? If so, who made the grade?
|by Anonymous||reply 201||January 12, 2022 2:34 AM|
Olympics US ID: Madison Chock / Evan Bates; Kaitlin Hawayek / Jean-Luc Baker; Madison Hubbell / Zachary Donohue (Alternate 1: Caroline Green and Michael Parsons; Alt 2: Emily Bratti and Ian Somervillle; Alt 3: Katarina Wolfkostin and Jeffrey Chen.)
Pais: Ashley Cain-Gribble/Timothy LeDuc & Alexa Knierim/Brandon Frazier (alt 1: Calalang/Johnson, alt 2: Lu/Mitrofanov, alt 3: Chan/Howe)
Women: Alysa Liu, Mariah Bell, Karen Chen. Alt1 Lindsey Thorngren; Alt2 Amber Glenn; Alt3 Gabriella Izzo.
Men: Jason Brown, Nathan Chen, Vincent Zhou (alt 1: Ilia Malinin, alt 2: Camden Pulkinen, 3: Jimmy Ma)
|by Anonymous||reply 202||January 12, 2022 2:52 AM|
How can the US have good to great male figure skaters and so-so women? They have the same coaches. I also think they should have sent Ilia.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||January 12, 2022 2:56 AM|
R191, Kazuki Tomono is B team but still a great skater, three time Grand Prix medalist and first in the short program at Cup of Russia this year.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||January 12, 2022 3:25 AM|
Euros is getting underway, with Men’s and Pairs’ SPs tomorrow. 31 year old Michal Brezina is still competing.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||January 12, 2022 3:50 AM|
Papadakis and Cizeron chickened out of the Europeans. They’re afraid of getting beaten again by Sinitsina and Katsalopov before the Olympics. Usin the excuse — afraid of Covid. Yeah, right.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||January 12, 2022 4:10 AM|
R192, only US and Canadian teams in the pairs? Sigh, it makes me sad that the worldwide pairs field is so weak. My favourite discipline, but it’s not been the same since they made dance into pseudo-pairs.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||January 12, 2022 7:07 AM|
Covid situation at Europeans
Irish male skarer positive. Replacement sent in his place
Coach of Slovak girl is positive. Skater put into isolation. Replacement sent.
Girl from Romania tested positive.
Almost whole Israeli team is positive. They withdrew also the not yet positive athletes
Polish dancers #2 positive
Woman of British pair positive
Man of Swiss pair positive
|by Anonymous||reply 208||January 12, 2022 8:46 AM|
Majorov WD this morning. Positive to Covid
|by Anonymous||reply 209||January 12, 2022 8:54 AM|
Yet none of the russians are positive when covid is raging there. I wonder if they tested themselves.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||January 12, 2022 9:41 AM|
[quote]I wish Chock and Bates had repeated their long program from last year again because it was a huge winner (the snake).
Chock & Bates's snake charmer program was pretty good, but it lost out to Gilles & Poirier's Joni Mitchell program at Worlds.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||January 12, 2022 10:44 AM|
Joni Mitchell program was a bore, and G/P’s current program is even worse.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||January 12, 2022 11:22 AM|
Gilles & Poirier's Joni Mitchell program was good -- it won them the bronze medal at Worlds. Time will tell whether their current program has enough narrative power to be as successful.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||January 12, 2022 12:13 PM|
Short Program at Europeans
1 Andrei Mozalev (Russia) 99.76
2 Mark Kondratiuk (Russia) 99.06
3 Evgeni Semenenko (Russia) 99.04
4 Morisi Kvitelashvili (Georgia) 92.76
5 Daniel Grassl (Italy) 91.75
6 Deniss Vasiljevs (Latvia) 90.24
7 Vladimir Litvintsev (Azerbjan) 83.46
8 Ivan Shmuratko (Ukraine) 82.13
9 Gabriele Frangipani (Italy) 81.79
10 Kevin Aymoz (France) 80.39
11 Paul Fentz (Germany) 76.76
12 Nikolaj Memola (Italy) 73.98
13 Lukas Britschgi (Switzerland) 72.96
14 Nikita Starostin (Germany)72.12
15 Michal Brezina (Czech Republic) 71.60
16 Maurizio Zandron (Austria) 70.75
17 Arlet Levandi (Estonia) 70.04
18 Konstantin Milyukov (Belarus) 69.10
19 Slavik Hayrapetyan (Armenia) 67.75
20 Valtter Virtanen (Finland) 67.34
21 Davide Lewton Brain (Monaco) 67.31
22 Burak Demirboga (Turkey) 67.30
23 Kornel Witkowski (Poland) 66.26
24 Tomas-Llorenc Guarino Sabate (Spain) 66.20
25 Adam Hagara (Slovakia) 65.23
26 Graham Newberry (Great Britain) 64.49
27 Matyas Belohradsky (Czech) 64.38
28 Nika Egadze (Georgia) 63.60
29 Daniel Kockers (Latvia) 56.10
30 Conor Stakelum (Ireland) 56.00
31 Jari Kessler (Croatia) 55.82
32 Andras Csernoch (Hungary) 54.88
33 Larry Loupolover (Bulgaria) 45.67
|by Anonymous||reply 214||January 12, 2022 3:53 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 215||January 12, 2022 3:55 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 216||January 12, 2022 3:55 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 217||January 12, 2022 3:55 PM|
Kondratiuk should be in first (although it's basically tied). Slightly better first spin and much better choreography and performance. Both equal on the jumps.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||January 12, 2022 4:10 PM|
Roman Sadovsky in the FS at Canadian Nationals, peaking at the right time…
|by Anonymous||reply 219||January 12, 2022 6:39 PM|
6 Covid cases in total (athletes, judges, other officials) at Euros today according to ISU
|by Anonymous||reply 220||January 12, 2022 8:18 PM|
Expected Russian domination in Pair
The gap between top 3 and the rest is embarassing
1 Mishina/Galliamov 82.36
2 Tarasova/Morozov 81.48
3 Boikova/Kozlovskii 76.26
4 Ghilardi/Ambrosini 62.76
5 Hase/Seegert 62.21
6 Safina/Berulava 61.93
7 Chtchetinina/Magyar 60.96
8 Barquero/Zandron 60.65
9 Lukashevich/Stepanov 58.80
10 Conti/Macii 56.28
11 Pavlova/Nagy 56.24
12 Kovalev/Kovalev 56.04
13 Hocke/Kunkel 55.17
14 Holichenko/Darenskyi 55.15
15 Zukova/Bidar 54.40
16 Petranovic/Souza Kordeiru 52.78
17 Keriven/Pierre 51.79
18 Vaipan-Law/Digby 51.11
19 Roscher/Schuster 48.77
20 Vaananen/Akulov 46.34
21 Danilova/Tsiba 36.86
|by Anonymous||reply 221||January 12, 2022 8:20 PM|
ISU bio page lists hobbies and results for all the skaters. Most skaters list pretty generic stuff like music or movies. As far as I know, Kazuki is the only one who lists "sauna bathing" as a hobby. Past skaters from many years ago still have their bios up - Elvis Stojko likes "email". Mariah Bell likes "playing with her rabbits."
|by Anonymous||reply 222||January 13, 2022 3:18 AM|
On his bio page, Kevin Aymoz: Hobbies: drinking coffee, dreaming.
Yuruzu Hanyu's: "Nothing"
|by Anonymous||reply 223||January 13, 2022 3:46 AM|
R223, that doesn't surprise me -- Hanyu needs a life outside of skating.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||January 13, 2022 10:00 AM|
Alexia Paganini is hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||January 13, 2022 1:48 PM|
R225 is a straight guy?
|by Anonymous||reply 226||January 13, 2022 2:21 PM|
Jason Brown still does charity work with injured kids.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||January 13, 2022 3:37 PM|
Kamila is other-worldly
|by Anonymous||reply 228||January 16, 2022 2:31 PM|
R228 Then I hope that Eteri‘s new Olympic year model has the same short product cycle as the previously ‘other-worldy’ Zagitova.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||January 16, 2022 7:35 PM|
R228 Can’t wait to see her fall apart once she is taller and has hips….
|by Anonymous||reply 230||January 16, 2022 7:37 PM|
Looked slightly human when she crashed on her 3A in the free.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||January 16, 2022 7:38 PM|
R231 We all know it’s just a matter of time….
|by Anonymous||reply 232||January 16, 2022 7:40 PM|
Are they still doing the team competition for skating at the Winter Games?
|by Anonymous||reply 233||January 16, 2022 8:31 PM|
Yes. The first event is "Team Event - Men Single Skating Short Program" on February 4
I forget how many countries qualify, six or eight, something like that. Russia expected to take gold, Japan/US fight for silver I think. Unless pigs fly or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||January 17, 2022 9:03 AM|
I attended the previous event and have front row for this one. It is well worth the price of admission to see Nathan Chen and Jason Brown in person.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||January 17, 2022 9:47 AM|
Why doesn’t Eteri just enter a jumping zygote in the women’s competition and call it a win?
|by Anonymous||reply 236||January 17, 2022 10:00 AM|
While I understand some negative comments about Eteri's winning formula, Valieva isn't just jumps though. Even removing quads, she would score very high. Same can't be said about some of her students, like Trusova or Zagitova. Scherbakova is also a decent all around skater.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||January 17, 2022 10:05 AM|
WHET to Drunksana Baiul?
|by Anonymous||reply 238||January 17, 2022 1:17 PM|
R238, she is married with a kindergarten age daughter and lives in Las Vegas.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||January 17, 2022 2:37 PM|
Beautifully filmed routine of a junior dance brother and sister.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||January 17, 2022 10:30 PM|
This year's routine.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||January 17, 2022 10:34 PM|
Sweden finally decided to send its skaters to the Olympics! Women Josefin Taljegard - Men Nikolaj Majorov
And the Team Event has ten qualified countries, though three have to send extra skaters who aren't doing the regular events just to make up the numbers (a woman from Italy, a man from Germany, a pair from Ukraine)
The Big 10: Russia, US, Japan, Canada, China, Italy, Germany, Georgia, Czechia, Ukraine
|by Anonymous||reply 242||January 19, 2022 4:59 AM|
Four Continents Men’s SP results from this morning- Cha and Tomono are first and second while Brendan Kerry of Australia is in 4th. Some great skates so far in the SP.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||January 21, 2022 3:20 PM|
I’d love to see an Australian compete in skating.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||January 21, 2022 3:26 PM|
Mai Mihara won gold in ladies…here’s her Les Miserables SP.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||January 21, 2022 4:06 PM|
This is Mai Mihara’s second Four Continents win - her first was back in the 2016/2017 season. She’s now 22 years old, born in 1999.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||January 21, 2022 4:10 PM|
Brendan Kerry Nebelhorn SP -very nice. Four Continents video isn’t up yet.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||January 21, 2022 4:27 PM|
Mai Mihara hasn't won Four Continents 2022 yet. She will skater her FS tomorrow afternoon (morning if you're in the US) in Estonia - and we'll see if she can stay away from the three Korean A-team ladies who are 2nd 3rd and 4th after the short program (Seoul says, "covid? what covid?"
|by Anonymous||reply 248||January 21, 2022 9:49 PM|
Ladies FS just finished.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||January 22, 2022 2:17 PM|
Cha just became the first Korean man to medal at Four Continents with a win here. FS just finished but here is the SP.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||January 23, 2022 1:23 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 251||January 23, 2022 7:45 PM|
There's some suspicion about it - but Kolyada has been declared to have contracted Covid and now Semenenko is going in his place.
One down, how many ejectees to go, one wonders? Some pair is out too - from a small country (in skating terms). Can't remember who they are.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||January 26, 2022 9:35 AM|
An article about Kolyada below…
|by Anonymous||reply 253||January 26, 2022 8:13 PM|
Kolyada is one of 5 out so far on the Russian Olympic team…he had missed training due to the symptoms and subsequently got the COVID test. He also had a recent foot injury just a couple weeks ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||January 26, 2022 9:32 PM|
I think by "foot injury" they mean ankle sprain - not sure though. Ankles are incredibly vulnerable with all these triple axel and quad attempts - and missing jumps is Misha's biggest problem so he likely was working on them a lot.
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