Is Ansel Elgort’s Career Over?

In a year or two he can be on

Dancing with the Stars

He's too connected no to keep getting work. God that is face you want to slap that smirk off.

These days you really need stars to open a film.

[QUOTE] He's too connected no to keep getting work.

That’s how he gets all his roles. Eventually it has to end.

Most of those Marvel people aren't stars. Musicals are just a gamble. They have long been.

He has the face for a character actor anyway.

[quote] He's too connected no to keep getting work.

Plus, young, white, and cute. I cant take anyone seriously who blames him for a movie that was one misstep after another, the primary one: this isn’t a movie anyone was clamoring to see. There’s no actor in his age range who could’ve done more for the box office.

I think so, yes. Don't forget The Goldfinch was also a huge bomb. No one wants to see his smug, arrogant face on the big screen and the fact that he's a notorious douchebag doesn't help his case. Nor does the receding hairline or the wooden acting.

Shawn Mendes?

I think he's handsome in a non-stereotypical way but he just has NO charisma.

He should stick to playing meek retards like in Baby Driver.

R7 = Ansel Elgort’s agent

Baby driver and Fault in our stars were huge hits. The problem is the rape allegations. Some people will never let that go and will raise a stink anytime he’s cast in something.

It might have done better with Harry Styles, though he's not remotely a tenor.

I say Ansel needs to play gay to save his career!

He already had a reputation as a dickhead prior to the allegations.

I still don't understand why Spielberg cast him.

Still, I really don't think Elgort is the reason why WSS is a flop. He may be one of the factors but the film has other issues, like the fact that it's a remake and a musical. There was no demand for this movie.

R7 Just about anyone could have brought in more teen girls. Douglas Booth, for example. Does he sing? Probably at least as well as Ansel and much better looking. And no rape allegations.

No. Douglas Booth has never gained a following.

[QUOTE] I still don't understand why Spielberg cast him.

I think Spielberg was sexually attracted to him.

I'm pretty sure Disney just didn't want this to succeed. Releasing it a week before Spiderman killed any potential for it to have a Greatest Showman type slowburn. It's like this is something they got stuck with after buying Fox and are just clearing the slates.

[quote] like the fact that it's a remake

Bullshit. Its being a remake has nothing to do with it.

R16 The bigger issue was casting an unlikeable nobody as Maria.

So wait, being Speilberg's boytoy wasn't enough for him?

Noting worse than a boring average looking white guy getting big roles. You hear that, Adam Driver. But eventually they make so many box office bombs that the parts dry up. Right, Jon Hamm?

Encanto more than doubled WSS at the box office this weekend. Is it too late to add english captions??

[Quote] The bigger issue was casting an unlikeable nobody as Maria.

Rita Moreno doesn't play Maria, silly.

Adam Driver isn't most people's idea of white.

What the hell do most people see when they look at him then, R27?

What other bombs has he had?

R23 What? I am surprised Spielberg can still get it up....

R27 He's fugly white.

R29 Everything since Baby Driver in 2017 has been a dud: November Criminals (2017), Jonathan (2018), Billionaire Boys Club (2018), The Goldfinch (2019), and now West Side Story (2021).

He's a total product of nepotism and connections, the public has never had any love for him.

R33 Not entirely true, since he was quite good in breakout role in The Fault in Our Stars and acquired a fanbase from that performance.

Yeah, like ten people. The rest of the population never took to him. He's not a star.

[quote] this isn’t a movie anyone was clamoring to see.

Other than the superhero movies, what movie is anyone clamoring for?

R36 Then Ansel needs to get himself a superhero movie role! Get on it, agents of nepotism!

It was a mistake to release this movie now. It could have done much better at drawing an older audience (who remember the original) if it hadn’ t been released in winter when everyone has been told that coronavirus will become a bigger problem again. Older people aren’t going to flock to watch this under the current circumstances.

Do you mean to tell me there was someone else in this film aside from Rita “Look at ME!” Moreno?

If she weren't dead, Natalie Wood be in the film.

Over my dead body R40

[QUOTE] It could have done much better at drawing an older audience (who remember the original) if it hadn’ t been released in winter when everyone has been told that coronavirus will become a bigger problem again.

They could’ve released it on July 4th, and it still would’ve flopped.

I know this will make eldergays take to their fainting couches, but West Side Story is an old, old musical from ages ago and it's pretty dated. I'm in my forties and have never seen it, like many people my age. If people my age have no interest, imagine the lack of interest Millennials/Gen Z have about it.

Dont be surprised if he does something else like photography or producing films. He had almost 5 years of flops that most actors coildnt survive. His last hope is getting into a comic book movie.

R43 If you're in your forties, why are you talking about eldergays like you aren't one?

R44 He's already branching out from movies. He's starring in a streaming series Tokyo Vice for HBO Max coming in 2022.

I don’t disagree with people’s criticisms of Ansel Elgort, but I would still lick his shitter

Even the intended audience didn’t want to see this film. My grandparents took me to see the original West Side Story when it came out. They love musicals. This remake was targeted towards them. But they aren’t going to go see this. They said they have no desire to.

He needs to pull an Ellen Page to revive his career and come out as a trans woman . Then he'll be fine.

[quote]If you're in your forties, why are you talking about eldergays like you aren't one?

On DL, forties means you're practically a twink

Let's face it, the public is tired of these dancing musicals. They didn't like In The Heights, either.

[quote] I think Spielberg was sexually attracted to him.

I think Spielberg saw himself in Elgort, who kinda looks like a better looking version of Spielberg as a young man.

No one's grandparents who were alive in 1961 are still around in 2021.

Why not? Not everyone has old grandparents.

Do the math.

[Quote] Why not? Not everyone has old grandparents.

Grandparents in 1961 are D.E.D. dead in 2021.

His fate lies in Baby Driver 2. If that movie gets cancelled, he’s done.

He hasn’t had a big career so it’s not like he was some box office star and he’s not in any comic book movies so I don’t see why Hollywood would have no issue dumping him.

Maybe a remake of "Shampoo"?

He just isn't special.

He has beady little eyes and looks like a rooster.

Sensual lips, though.

He’s very good looking.

R28 Jewface.

He needs to show the dong in his next movie

R63 Adam Driver is not even a little bit Jewish. Check Wiki if you wish to research further.

Adam Driver is not pretty, but he has a hunky body, and an air of danger. And he is a very good actor.

Adam Driver has masculine energy and appeal

It doesn't bode well for Ansel that he can't even maintain the focus of this thread. People are more interested in discussing Adam Driver.

Adam is more masculine than Ansel. Ansel has a weak body with girly shoulders, so these DL bottoms aren’t really attracted to him.

Yes.

I knew WSS was in trouble when the teasers and ads tied to hide that it was a musical.

Adam Driver is ugly as fuck and a very limited, one-note actor. I honestly don't get the hoopla.

[quote]I knew WSS was in trouble when the teasers and ads tied to hide that it was a musical.

A big hide to hide. Like trying to hide that 'Schindler's List' was about The Holocaust.

Well, they didn’t show anyone dancing or singing.

R65 You don’t have to be an actual jew to have jewface, Rose!

[QUOTE] Adam Driver is ugly as fuck and a very limited, one-note actor. I honestly don't get the hoopla.

It’s called big dick energy, R72.

I wonder if he’s jealous of Timothee.

[quote]No one's grandparents who were alive in 1961 are still around in 2021.

Rita will get you for that.

r3 I thought the opposite was thought to be the case and the day of individual stars having the power to pull in a box office audience was over?

Rita wasn't a grandparent in 1961. Someone said their grandparent took them to see the original when it came out.

[quote]Is Ansel Elgort’s Career Over?

He had a career?

Do you not see that he’s the star of this movie, R81? A major motion picture that costs hundreds of millions of dollars to produce and market? I’d say that yes, he has a career.

Hopefully. Audiences can only stand the bland for so long before their fill.

I mean, he’s hot. I’m sure he’ll make for a dreamy romantic Tony when I watch the movie hungover on a Saturday morning in a few months on Hulu. Zero interest in going to the theater for this though.

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R51, In the Heights just wasn’t that compelling and it had no stars and the songs just aren’t that memorable.

Hopefully he and his meaty dong can have a second career on OnlyFans

I find none of Kevin Spaceys throwaways hot.....LINK = Ansel talking about "bonding" with Kevin Spacey on the movie. That didn't age well.

His career reminds me of the infamous article about Armie Hammer pointing out that his career was a series of flops and second (and third, and fourth, and fifth, and sixth) chances that he didn’t deserve and other people wouldn’t get. Ansel is another one who “looks like a star” to some execs who don’t seem to understand that audiences care about talent and charisma just as much, if not more. Funny that Ansel seems to have some of the same personal problems as Armie as well.

He tore that pussy up!

He was guilty of being an asshole and treating a girl badly. Something 100 percent of hot young straight actors have done.

He did nothing wrong.

I watched at a friends home theater last night….she has a screener and her 15 year old daughter and a 40 year old friend both had no desire to see the film after seeing the previews yet were both enthralled/mesmerized by the film….I think too many marketing types assumed the whole under 40’s audience knew what WSS story was….and the trailers didn’t help. I enjoyed it….it was a refreshing update…I wasn’t sure what to expect from Mike Faist as RIff after seeing him as Connor in DEAR EVAN HANSEN but his was one of the stronger performances…

The movie was a flop because some of the cunt actresses made shady comments about Natalie Wood on the 40th anniversary of her death. God has a way of making things right in the end.

'Even the intended audience didn’t want to see this film. My grandparents took me to see the original West Side Story when it came out. They love musicals. This remake was targeted towards them. But they aren’t going to go see this. They said they have no desire to.'

One of the most ridiculous things I've read on DL.

When I heard they made a remake of WSS, my first thought was, Why? There was no way it would be as good as the original. Then I heard this version would be more faithful to the original Broadway play I was intrigued. The trailer looked promising, so I decided to see it and I loved it. The new WSS is actually better than the 1961 film version. I'm not sure how they could have marketed it better. In the Heights also was well received critically, but did not do well at the box office. It seems audiences will venture out during COVID for Marvel movies but not for well made musicals.

How about a re-make of Carrie where he plays Tommy Ross.

Oh wait a minute, his done that and it was shit.

[quote] One of the most ridiculous things I've read on DL.

Why? Fans of the original really did not have a desire to see this.

[quote] His career reminds me of the infamous article about Armie Hammer pointing out that his career was a series of flops and second (and third, and fourth, and fifth, and sixth) chances that he didn’t deserve and other people wouldn’t get.

Ansel has this preppy WASP look rich people (like, Hollywood Studio execs) might find appealing, but the average mainstream Joe considers him a douche bro. His main demographic were girls falling for such guys, but that died when #MeToo turned him into a player and a creep.

1. I think the production of this movie took way too long, and it took out the edge off of the release.

2. It got mixed up with the Broadway revival which meant too much WSS too soon.

3. It was released during a worldwide pandemic.

Three strikes against it before it was ever even seen.

This is a case where the actors name is everything. If this guy was named Joe Smith he would be a model for target clothes.

Are we pretending Ansel Elgort is a hot and sexy name?

No but to the rubes it gives him a sense of mystique and cache. Hollywood loves a good quirky name, because the masses lap it up.

He was actually good in WSS. I went in with low expectations for him and came away pleasantly surprised.

Of course Tony is a pretty thankless role and Faist and Debose absolutely stole the movie.

Totally over.

Yes.

Thanks God.

I don't fancy him, but he looks so good on OP picture.

He's really flat in WSS. He's completely unconvincing as a boy with a violent past who now has the hots for a young girl. He stares at her blankly in the close-ups. He makes Richard Beymer feel like an astounding actor.

(R57) Sorry, but Baby Driver 2 or 3, isn’t saving his bland ass.

That's what they said to Travolta re Look Who's Talking sequels...

His face is kind of ugly. He should show his dick if he has a nice one.

R105 He looks trans in that photo.

Is Rita pitching herself for a second Oscar for a remake of the film she won her first Oscar? Silly question, of course she is. However, has Hollywood come to the realization she's not the easiest person to satisfy (unless she could somehow now have Natalie Wood's career or deal with?

Why would an Oscar winner want the career of a mere Oscar nominee?

Natalie should have won the Oscar for Splendor in the Grass.

I should never have pushed.....oops

[quote] unless she could somehow now have Natalie Wood's career or deal with?

Please translate this unintelligible thought, r111.

He looks like a douchey bird.

I have to agree with some of the conclusions above.. he needs to show off the peen to revive interest.

OP Chris Noth, Alec Baldwin or James Franco over?

Is Ansel Elgort's Career Over?

To be honest, despite Hollywood best efforts, it's never really got off the ground.

He seems to be quite busy with projects. He may not have broken out really big but he seems pretty successful.

He must be so jelly of Timmy!

[quote] Why not? Not everyone has old grandparents.

You had thirtysomething grandparents who took you to see it in 1961???

I'm sorry, but I'm afraid your pants are on fire.

It's not uncommon to have thirtysomething grandparents. In Florida.

I think he needs to push the envelope even further. By being the sperm recipient of a Bukkake.

Haters will love the humiliating aspect, and others will find his performance either off-putting or daring. Think Jennifer Connelly's ass-to-ass in Requiem For A Dream (body double or no body double).

Ansel's face is even more punchable than Timothee's.

I think WSS was a bucket list project for Spielberg, which he thinks he's doing as a public service. It might be a great movie for all I know but the infection rate in my city is 16 percent and I don't want to roll the dice. I would have happily paid 20. to screen it at homee.

Look, if I want to lose my virginity to a guy who is going to rape me while I cry and yell “Stop! Stop!” then I know who to call.

Otherwise, not so much.

It sounds like there is going to be a Baby Driver 2 with Elgort.

Career not over.

I bet it won’t be as good or successful as the first, R128.

It's be the 21st Century "Empire Strikes Back!"

I saw West Side Story last week (never saw the original) and I loved it. Ansel was good and his singing was excellent—everyone's was, actually, to the extent I wondered if it might have been significantly engineered.

He's getting a lot of hatred here but he was excellent in West Side Story.

I think he looks so out of place in West Side Story. And he’s too tall for the girl. It’s awkward when they’re side by side.

The movie failed because for about 55 years movie musicals have mostly been box office poison.

This Elgort should go to his synagogue and demand forgiveness for his arrogance and selfishness.

I had never seen WSS because the snippets I had seen of gangs dance-fighting looked so silly to me, but my dad wanted to see it and so I figured it would be nice to go with him. The fighting scenes were silly indeed—gang members doing pirhouettes with a loaded gun? But Spielberg's direction is meticulous and moving in this one, the jazzy music is wonderful, and the performances are excellent all around. I'm glad I saw it. It's an entertaimment highlight of the year for me, and it's one of few Spielberg movies I have really enjoyed.

Ansel Elgort sounds like an insect repellent product.

r131 He's getting hate here for being a sexual predator and an asshole douchebag, good performance notwithstanding.

R135, dance is a figurative not literal.

[quote]Ansel was good and his singing was excellent

The cast album suggests otherwise.

At the 2022 Critics Choice Awards.

R2, His face is rather.....Trumpian.

I think he's hot. Are you all blind, or something?

R140, I think that’s the last awards show he’ll be invited to for a long time.

I'm sure someone would pay to fuck him.

Being Spaceys'pass around wasn't a smart career move for Baby Driver.

Mr Singer, what do you say? I know he's a bit old for you, but maybe if we cleaned him up properly ...

r87 I will drink to that!!

r145 Do you think Taron Egerton might have been a Spacey pass around too?

R147 I think Jackman would have kept Taron thorough satiated. I bet he's quite the sweet boy when fucked out.

r148 Couldnt they have shared him?!

R113 Natalie Wood was more deserving of being an Oscar winner than conceited Rita Moreno. Same with Judy Garland. Judy should have won Best Supporting Actress that year instead of Rita.

Ansel is not special.

R140 He does not well and looks like he lost a shit load of weight. I think he has an HBO show coming up?

I don’t know what will happen to his career. He is very well connected but there’s going to be a portion of people turned off by him. I read the allegations and they really made my skin crawl. I think of Aziz Ansari, whose story broke right when MeToo first started. I think if those allegations came out today (which seemed like an awkward guy not understanding social cues) the response would have been milder. He still hasn’t made a real comeback and his show was super popular at the time.

This was not a movie the under 40 crowd had a desire to see.

R152, Aziz Anzari didn’t lose anything. The allegations got called out as be the second they were put out and he was widely defended.

He never was a huge star to begin with and I believe his show is still in production or at least had another season after me took

Young people have no idea what WSS even is. Older people would rather just rewatch the original which had a superior cast. The remake completely lacked any star appeal whereas Natalie Wood became a star from that movie. Miss Snow Brown is never going to become big and this flop remake is probably going to be the pinnacle of her career.

R154 I just checked and your right, but Aziz stepped down from the show and Lena Waithe became the new star. I know he was in the Parks and Rec covid thing but I remember there being a lot of anger online when he had a Netflix special come out. I was in college at the time and he was the biggest comedian for my age group, then John Mulaney swooped in

R150 Moreno had been around a long time playing parts that didn't seem to require acting or musical ability. Then she displayed both, in WSS, and people were impressed. She never really had any other great movie parts afterwards, either.

R157 Bitch is a one-trick pony. Didn't deserve an Oscar for putting in one subpar performance that she would try to milk dry for the next six decades.

R153 or people over 40. Death on the Nile $40M, Scream $80M, Jackass Forever $56M, Dog $47M, Uncharted $113M all released in 2022 made considerably more than WSS $38M which was released last year!

He's tall, good looking, perfect leading man material but he's also a charisma vortex. He sucks all the charisma off the screen both from himself and from his scene partners. It's a unique talent but it's incompatible with movie stardom.

I thought he was quite good in The Fault in Our Stars, but I haven’t seen him in anything else

R161 He hasn't done anything that surpasses his work in The Fault in Our Stars. But I haven't watched West Side Story yet.

R149 Taron's poor hole couldn't have taken them both.

Non-talent. How does he even have a career?

I think Ansel Is terrific in WSS—his singing voice is really beautiful—and critics calling him “wooden” just had their knives out because of that girl he ghosted who tried to #MeToo him on social media.

Maybe he gives good head R164?

R164, his father and people like Spielberg have a hard-on for always casting Jewish pretty boys.

They are going to be re-releasing WSS for a short Oscar push run this week, screening it on Ansel's forehead,

I’d like to know what Timothee and Ansel were like in LaGuardia. Someone posted on the Deuxmoi an angry Facebook rant from a supposed ex classmate who said they were both assholes and both had “fanclubs” of girls at the school who had crushes on them both. Timothee probably has an ego but he never seemed like he would be mean

[quote]Still, I really don't think Elgort is the reason why WSS is a flop. He may be one of the factors but the film has other issues, like the fact that it's a remake and a musical. There was no demand for this movie.

I watched it last night & it was so "meh" practically from the first scene; I can't really entire put my finger on just why exactly either. I liked the original & I like watching musicals, even The Heights, which is not great either but somewhat entertaining. WSS just seemed dull, flat & lifeless. We're meant to believe that this Tony is this brute with a heart of gold, Elgort didn't seem like that *at all*. He just has no magnetism or charisma. The only one that came close was Bernardo.

So I think both things are true: WSS's failure wasn't his fault, but he isn't a leading man either

The original had Rita and Wood, and came at the bitter end of the musical's 30 year death march. Plus, it stayed closer to the original vibe, it was supposed to be a clash between Jew's and Catholic's, but WW2 kind of made the point moot so the recast it Chicano.

I remember when Ansel was the toast of LA back in 2014, ugh..... that smirk was all too real, charm of a doorstop.. I don't think Hollywood is coming back, when you have major actors working scale to do streaming it's over. The blockbusters will always do well for their "stars," but really that's more participation than acting. I think the age of the 8 figure people/human interest pictures died in 2000. We are no longer a monoculture, we don't experience as many moments together; everybody's media is self-curated.

I found Ansel to be pretty good in most of the roles I've seen him in. Like most actors, it's not his fault if the films they appear in aren't as well received as expected or are not big box office successes. I initially thought making a new version of West Side Story was a bad idea, but it was overall better than the original 1961 film.

His torso is abnormally long.

Speaking in all seriousness - it wasn't really rape-rape was it?

Nah, he hooked up with and then ghosted an impressionable young fan. She took her revenge on social media.

[quote]When I heard they made a remake of WSS, my first thought was, Why? There was no way it would be as good as the original. Then I heard this version would be more faithful to the original Broadway play I was intrigued. The trailer looked promising, so I decided to see it and I loved it. The new WSS is actually better than the 1961 film version. I'm not sure how they could have marketed it better. In the Heights also was well received critically, but did not do well at the box office. It seems audiences will venture out during COVID for Marvel movies but not for well made musicals.

The 1961 version was a hot property. The new one is a remake of a movie that's 60 years old, that many people have already seen. The original was contemporary, the remake is a historical film about a bygone era. With music that isn't current any more. People probably wouldn't go to see a remake of South Pacific or The Pajama Game, either.

R170 that if feels more like "Newsies" meets a Disney Princess (Rachel Zegler)

The messages he was sending to 14 year olds were so creepy. They were like something you’d see on “To Catch A Predator”. He was in his early 20s when sending them I believe.

More people probably liked Ansel Elgort in West Side Story better than Hugh Jackman in The Greatest Showman.

I'd still like to hit it.

He looks like a rooster.

R181 would be on her back, legs up with her mouth open asking him to pick a hole if Ansel came offering dick.

[quote]it was supposed to be a clash between Jew's and Catholic's

Between Jew's and Catholic's what?

R182 ew. In that situation I would ask him to introduce me to David Alvarez.

R183

It was originally supposed to be about rival Jewish and Catholic gangs on the Lower East Side.

Don't ask me.

Pedo!

is Michael Faist's movie career over?

R10, "He should stick to playing meek retards like in Baby Driver."

I've never seen Baby Driver, is it about a baby driving?

he will be fine.....he is a brilliant actor in most projects.

Mike Faist is shooting the new Luca Guadagnino movie opposite Zendaya and Josh O’Connor, R188.

I liked the new WSS film, and while he wasn't the singing/acting standout of it, I thought he was fine. Certainly an upgrade on Richard Beymer in 1961. I'm sure he'll still get work, but he'll always be on the Twitter/Jezebel enemy list. If a project is very high-profile and commercial, and the choices are Elgort and three other actors around the same age who haven't had allegations made against them by an ex, it could tip the scale toward one of the other guys.

I don't think WSS's underperformance in theaters will factor in, though. He was no more responsible for that than Beymer was responsible for the success of the '61 film.

I didn't watch West Side Story but I'm watching Tokyo Vice now and he's decent in it. Just watched 2 episodes so far.

I'm digging this series.

R3 you need a Marvel character not a star to open a film

R193 Ansel is good in everything he's acted in, which is why he keeps getting more work.

Did he learn Japanese for this series? This is a really good show.

R196 I remember he delivered some Japanese lines in the trailer. It wasn't too cringeworthy so he put some work into it.

He doesn’t have IT. He better be saving his money.

Maybe he caught IT and he's trying to get rid of it.

From what I understand, the original plan was for Elgort to learn his Japanese lines phonetically, but the pandemic shutdown hit about a week after they started production. So he used all the downtime to learn Japanese for real, and he's semi-fluent now, and he's sticking with it in case the show gets picked up for another season. It's based on the real Edelstein's memoir, but the book covers a long period of time.

If there's ever a Wings reboot (ha!), Elgort should be the Steven Weber character.

He's got about 30 seconds left on his freshness clock.

new episode every thursday. yes, I was surprised. I was checking his insta and he was promoting this in Japan and speaking Japanese and writing in Japanese...it's not the hardest language to learn but good for him.