Chris Noth DROPPED by agency

They should hire him now to do flashbacks.

He was dropped by his agency over allegations? The world is fucking ridiculous. They're allegations. Nothing has been proven. A shift has to be coming and coming soon.

[quote] If SJP hadn’t insisted on having him in AJLT , he would still have a career today!

Also, most likely, steering clear of sexually assaulting young women. Allegedly.

[quote] He was dropped by his agency over allegations? The world is fucking ridiculous. They're allegations. Nothing has been proven. A shift has to be coming and coming soon.

R2 The agency must believe there is merit to the allegations in order for them to have acted this swiftly and decisively. Especially considering one of the accusers was a young agency staffer at the time of her alleged assault. Or, the agency just doesn't want the PR headache and they don't have much invested in Noth anyway since they just signed him a few months ago.

And Just Like That…….he’s reduced to snuff films and Christian Television program appearances.

He is TOAST.

Wasn't he publicly accused of battering his supermodel ex decades ago? Beverly someone

Will it have an adverse affect on the new movie in which I declined to participate?

r2 His agency probably knew all about it. But since it was made public post "me too" they were forced to do something about it.

I thought I heard he died, why would they keep a corpse?

She may have contacted the agency after the assault and if she worked there or there are dated files stored in HR that show they hid his behavior and gave him a slap on the wrist. There may even be more assaults documented we don’t know about.

She may also have filed a lawsuit and they’re trying to get ahead of it before the courts demand the files.

Why did it take her so long to say something? This allegedly happened 15 years ago?

I don't think people understand the magnitude of what's happening if these allegations are proven to be true.

Besides the harm done to these woman, it will completely destroy SATC's legacy.

DLs bitch about it all the time, but it was a good show.

IIRC he was not liked by the SATC cast except for Parker who insisted he be kept around?

Big was always Carrie’s biggest flaw, a toxic narcissist who the character still saw as some kind of trophy and refused to discard. Having Carrie finally married to him in AJLT would be like if Jennifer Garner took back Ben Affleck today.

Even if proven true, why should it destroy Sex & the City legacy? I am not that big a fan (no pun intended) but irritates me that people can separate the actor from the character, the artist from the art, etc. Cancel culture is ridiculous.

That said, if he is guilty he should be charged and judged. But that shouldn’t detract from enjoying anything where he appeared.

I have a PI friend who had to follow him as he was stalking his ex, Beverly Johnson.. the black supermodel from the 70’s. From what I heard he was extremely abusive. Not at all a nice guy. I was shocked that Mr. Big was so dark and cruel.

[R15] WOW. Can you tell us a little bit more about that? I remember when her abuse allegations came out and he and his friends called her crazy and said she was trying to get out of paying him money she owed him. I used to see them in the East Village together in the 90's. They were a gorgeous couple

R2 Lets hope this is temporary and not, indeed, the shift. It won’t stop until people stand up and refuse this to go any further. Where are the anti-fascists now? Comical. Clown world we live in.

R14, this isn't cancel culture, this is accusing someone of several serious crimes.

I'll never understand the people who think holding someone accountable for a violent crime is just "ridiculous cancel culture."

R15 is lying. You're an idiot, r16.

R19 Sure thing Chris.

The agency is more at risk than Sex & The City. If it can be proven that the agency covered up that a client sexually assaulted one of their own employees, that's a pretty bad look and can cost them millions in court.

Of course SJP will now be pressured to “break her silence” about these allegations.

Black Irish are always abusive.

Were the producers of Sex and the City aware of the 1995 story about Noth beating up his ex Beverly Johnson? If they were aware of it was it that they didn't believe her long and detailed police account or was it that she just didn't matter?

[quote] I'll never understand the people who think holding someone accountable for a violent crime is just "ridiculous cancel culture."

You’re a fucking idiot. It’s an accusation. It hasn’t been proven. Go fuck yourself, Mattress Girl.

He’s well hung. He will be forgiven.

R18, have you read my post? I was specifically speaking about-the current trend that if someone is accused or even guilty of a crime it automatically poisons enjoyment from every work they’ve done.

I objected to you referring to this as "cancel culture," r27, and explained why. I just think it's disingenuous for people to try to pass off serious stuff (and you yourself said it was serious) as merely being cancel culture.

I briefly thought you meant SATC would be cancelled because of it but that's not what cancel culture is, either.

What should drive everyone crazy is that someone, anyone, can make an accusation and totally turn someone's life upside down. An accusation isn't guilt and should not be treated as such.

What I hate is that someone can accuse someone of shit that happened decades ago. If it was so fucking traumatic, why didn't they make accusations immediately after the incident? These people are the worst and are only doing it for a money grab. And you all now it's true.

"Innocent until proven guilty" no longer exists in the court of public opinion – i.e. Trollville. Only automatic damnation is acceptable – or you are part of the problem. We all live in Animal Farm now.

The most remarkable aspect to any of this is how far a laughably bad actor like Noth actually got in this business.

[quote]Besides the harm done to these woman, it will completely destroy SATC's legacy.

Oh calm down Becky, he was a supporting actor, not anywhere near the star.

Can you imagine being the center of world wide attention one day and cancelled the next?

"Raped from behind" means he butt fuck raped them? (allegedly)

Or he rape fucked their pussies from behind? (allegedly)

[quote]He is TOAST.

Well, maybe avocado toast. Regular toast is just fabulous.

^^^Regular toast just ISN'T fabulous.

R34, one of the women 'taken from behind' said she needed her vag stitched up in the ER afterward.

R34 yikes! Is he hung huge?

[quote]she needed her vag stitched up in the ER

And she's just coming forward now? That bitch wants some of Chris' Peleton check.

Everyone in Hollywood must live with the low-key fear that something they did, said or posted in their adult life is coming back to haunt them.

Pelaton just can't catch a break, can they?!

"And if the world isn't ready for the truth, how can it handle Me Too"?

[quote] Everyone in Hollywood must live with the low-key fear that something they did, said or posted in their adult life is coming back to haunt them.

Wow. I'm really interested in how you thought posting this in a thread about a sexual assault accusation was the right move.

What a scold you are, Goody R43.

R43, this isn't a thread about sexual assault. This is a thread about an actor, accused of something - unproven, being dropped by his agency.

The worst part is the hypocrisy.

Can people stop asking why she didn't come forward sooner. She stated exactly why. Whether you believe it or not us a whole other thing but to keep asking just makes you sound stupid.

[quote] [R43], this isn't a thread about sexual assault.

He's being dropped by his agency because of sexual assault accusations. Of course, the reason why he's being dropped is part of the thread. What isn't part of the thread is whining about

[quote] Everyone in Hollywood must live with the low-key fear that something they did, [bold] said or posted [/bold] in their adult life is coming back to haunt them.

But then, everybody has a right to out himself as douchebag. And that's a total douchebag move.

[quote]Can people stop asking why she didn't come forward sooner. She stated exactly why.

And we're supposed to just be okay with that? Stop enabling these grifters.

[quote] Stop enabling these grifters.

How about you stop enabling rapists?

Oh, that's not the same, because he's just being accused, but she's a no-doubt certified grifter?

Didn’t he own some restaurants at one time? I remember reading on CDAN, back when the site was still fun and long before it had turned into the crazy everyone-is-a-pedophile nonsense, that you could order a “special” that involved dining with him. And it could lead to more shenanigans if you were willing to pay, thereby turning him into a high priced trick. Anyone else remember this, or am I dreaming?

If any, I think AJLT must be sighing with relief they killed off his Mr Big character. Now, there's no pressure to keep him on the show.

[quote]Can you imagine being the center of world wide attention one day and cancelled the next?

I have a pretty good idea.

[quote]Stop enabling these grifters.

You think he's gorgeous...you want to to kiss him....you want to hug him.....

“What I hate is that someone can accuse someone of shit that happened decades ago. If it was so fucking traumatic, why didn't they make accusations immediately after the incident? These people are the worst and are only doing it for a money grab. And you all now it's true.”

Stop being such a cunt. If they come out right away, you”ll just make another bullshit excuse.

Anybody know how agencies work in this regards. Noth is an established actor, but the allegations are serious. But, they're just allegations. Obviously an agency doesn't have to represent him, even if he isn't found legally guilty of anything. My question is what sort of due diligence would the agency perform. Would they sit him down and talk to him and develop an opinion about whether to drop him based on their own impressions? Would they try to talk to the women or at least obtain some sort of summary of what happened from them? Would they do anything else?

He wasn't a main character or even a well loved character. I don't think it will have an impact on the show's legacy.

SJP is toxic. We know this.

How did the two women go to THR at the same time even though they didn't know each other? Was this explained somewhere and I missed it?

[quote]Stop being such a cunt. If they come out right away, you”ll just make another bullshit excuse.

No I wouldn't. If someone railed you so hard (without consent) that you needed stitches and right after you were stitched up you filed a police report, why would I be against that?

[quote]You think he's gorgeous...you want to to kiss him....you want to hug him.....

Nope, don't get the attraction. Never have.

[quote]How about you stop enabling rapists?

How am I doing that? The best way to stop rape is to report rape as quickly as possible.

[R19] I am absolutely not lying. Why would I make something like this up? Don’t be silly. My friend has done hundreds of celebrity cases in his 40 plus years as a PI. Nothing new or surprising here.

18 years ago. Math skills. This is bullshit.

From a poster on Lipstick Alley:

Now THAT’S how you drop a client

[quote]I'll never understand the people who think holding someone accountable for a violent crime is just "ridiculous cancel culture."

Because an accusation is just that an accusation. The court of public opinion isn't accountability...a court of law is.

[quote]How did the two women go to THR at the same time even though they didn't know each other? Was this explained somewhere and I missed it?

What does this mean? What am I missing?

R59, they approached THR months apart. Apparently it was seeing Noth mentioned constantly in connection with the new SATC that made them go public. Another woman has since come forward, I think she has spoken to The Daily Beast. I have never heard anyone speak a kind word about Noth, which may help explain why his agency dropped him so quickly.

Bitter grapes! Samantha dropped a dime on him!

[quote]Apparently it was seeing Noth mentioned constantly in connection with the new SATC that made them go public.

He' also got press for Latifah's "The Equilizer" too.

Coming back to kill Big was the death of his career.

The accusations are strong enough I question why no one dug a bit before bringing him onboard or his behavior wasn’t clearly apparent before everyone started making money beating this dead horse of a project again.

R70, Beverly Johnson's accusations were made contemporaneously and in court documents--he beat her, threatened to disfigure her and kill her dog, the works. But that was back in the 'nineties. I guess the industry took none of that seriously back then.

Another accuser with a very credible story came forward

[quote]Even if proven true, why should it destroy Sex & the City legacy? I am not that big a fan (no pun intended) but irritates me that people can separate the actor from the character, the artist from the art, etc. Cancel culture is ridiculous. That said, if he is guilty he should be charged and judged. But that shouldn’t detract from enjoying anything where he appeared.

You're right, R14. Why should Bill Cosby's decades long history of drugging and raping women destroy the legacy of wholesome family man Cliff Huxtable on the Cosby Show? People need to separate the actor from the character, it's ridiculous to cancel him for raping multiple women.

The Left came up with the believe all women bullshit. Now it’s backfired. They fell for Mattress Girl and they fell for Jussie. They’re idiots.

OMG AJLT ruined his life!

Beverly Johnson made the exact same accusations against her boyfriend Mark Burk, which were later dismissed. He also beat her, wanted to disfigure her, and kill her dog Lee Johnson.

Burk also stated that during the 4 years he lives with Johnson, she always had great things to say about Cosby, but later joined in on accusing Cosby of driving her as well. Johnson does not seem like a reliable source.

Maybe this process would be fair if people who falsely accuse others would go to jail. Remember the porn star who accused pedophile Josh Duggar of rape and who later retracted her statement? There should be legal repercussions and long jail sentences for anyone who lies about these kinds of things.

Not kill her dog “Lee Johnson”. Per Johnson.

Nice name for a dog, though.

[quote]Burk also stated that during the 4 years he lives with Johnson, she always had great things to say about Cosby, but later joined in on accusing Cosby of driving her as well. Johnson does not seem like a reliable source.

Where did he "state" this or you "just heard"?

R78, feel free to Google it. I already posted this on the original Chris Noth assault allegation thread.

R78, one more thing. It’s just so telling that you don’t ask this question every time there is a post from someone who states that they “knew” Noth and that it was known that he was abusive, etc. Isn’t it ironic?

Since I wrote my initial post prior to finishing my first cup of coffee, here’s the Mark Burk bit where Johnson accused him of the exact same abuse and threats that’s she accused Noth of.

Burk had asked Noth to testify in this cases, but the charges were later dismissed.

Here’s Johnson’s manager saying that she lied about Cosby.

Article on Mark Burk refuting Johnson’s statements about Cosby.

Enough with the Beverly Johnson posts. She has nothing to do with the recent accusations.

I have trouble taking seriously accusations that are timed to the release of the suspect’s next big project. What? These women weren’t raped when he was promoting Manhunt: Unabomber? Not saying it didn’t happen, but the agenda of the accuser is clear and I’m sure there’s not a little personal glory in it for them.

Regardless of the agenda of an accuser if he did what he’s accused of doing then he deserves any repercussions.

I was also raped by Chris Noth.

[quote]Regardless of the agenda of an accuser if he did what he’s accused of doing then he deserves any repercussions.

In today's world an accusation is all anyone needs to be ruined. It's wrong and unfair. I am squarely in the camp, like I believe most rational people are, if you make an accusation that is more than a year old and it is conveniently timed to coincide with the PR surrounding a big project, you are either a liar or an opportunist looking for hush money.

All #metoo has done has made it more difficult for real abuse victims.

R88, what about Bill Cosby’s accusers? Should they have remained quiet too?

R84, please do fuck off. I was asked for "proof" when I made a statement regarding Johnson that I provided. The kind of proof that none of the "victims" are asked to provide.

How stupid are people to think that an anonymous allegation against someone is enough to destroy their career and reputation? None of this helps actual assault victims. If you get assaulted, go to the police and press charges immediately. Many people are traumatized by crimes committed against them, but they have to report them to the police and relive the trauma. Nobody would say that it's ok to report a robbery 15 years later because you were too traumatized after the fact. Sexual assault should not be treated differently except for cases that involve children.

OP what is your obsession with this story? You seem gleeful, like a child would be.

[quote]R84, please do fuck off. I was asked for “proof”

So that means you need to cut and paste ad nauseam? And asking YOU for proof? I didn’t realize you were the end all and be all authority on this.

In respect to fucking off, you first.

Big was a really dull, tedious character. Rich, cocky, confident and....that's it.

[quote][R88], what about Bill Cosby’s accusers? Should they have remained quiet too?

Let me be clear. I don't think anyone should remain quiet, I just think that you have a window of opportunity to report assaults and after that opportunity you need to move the fuck on. But excuses after excuses are made for these people, as to why they don't report immediately and its bullshit. Not reporting an assault immediately after it happens is cowardly and the most anti-woman thing one woman can do to another.

As for Cosby's accusers, I have zero sympathy for any of them.

R92, just STFU already. You can scroll past my post if you don't want to see it or block me. Unless you're a fucking moderator on this site, you don't need to tell people what to post or what to do.

[quote]Wasn't he publicly accused of battering his supermodel ex decades ago? Beverly someone

Yes, that was Beverly Johnson. Beverly was the first Black model to ever appear on the cover of US VOGUE.

This article looks to be from The Inquirer. I'm sure you can Google for more info.

R95, you can move right past my posts too.

Works both ways, snowflake.

R11 people are finding their voices in this climate. I was sexually assaulted in the past and the difference between the way it’s handled and spoken about now when I mention it to my doctor and when I first mentioned the assault to another doctor ten years ago is astonishing and rather sad at the same time. I can understand why it’s taken many this long to speak about this type of thing.

Once Rose McGowan and Gloria Allred show up, his collapse will be complete.

The irony of his final performance being slumped in the floor dying in agony. What a way to go.

Rose McGowan has always seemed a bit off. She seemed drawn to abusive men.

Look at the lunatics she's dated, Marilyn Manson? C'mon. Anyone with a functioning brain could see from a mile away that man has major mental health issues. Most of his exes have revealed how he mentally and physically abused them. There was a recent story in the press mentioning him raping and locking up an ex-GF.

Not sure if his ex-wife, Dita Von Tesse, has said anything to the media, but their marriage sure didn't last very long.

Isn’t he a continuing character on the revamped Equalizer?

[quote]In today's world an accusation is all anyone needs to be ruined.

There isn't a single celebrity whose life was ruined because of a mere allegation.

The closest I can think of was Woody Allen but his career continued for decades and he continued to win awards and Oscars. He's still got a film out in circulation, Rifkin's Festival.

R103, what about Al Franken? His career wasn’t ruined?

I believe, and there are unfortunately no concrete numbers, that celebrities are at a greater risk of false accusations because there’s something to gain in terms of money, attention, or even revenge.

There’s also false memories in some sexual assault victims, who were assaulted by one person but then falsely remember that a similar assault occurred by another person.

It should be possible to discuss this topic from all angles without being labeled a misogynist or rape apologist. It’s a fact that one false allegation can destroy a person’s career and livelihood forever, and there should be severe legal repercussions for anyone who lies.

There is zero proof that any of the accusations are true in Noth’s case, and he should not be judged and tried by online warriors because of mostly anonymous claims.

I posted about Beverly Johnson’s accusations because she doesn’t come across as someone who is credible.

R103 is either clueless or totally disengenuous.

Lives have been damaged, careers have been damaged. This extremist "well if they didn't commit suicide and are still able to get some work, then nothing bad happened and it's okay" is just bullshit.

It's a defensive posture taken by people who are trying to diminish how severely a #metoo accusation can affect someone's life, because they don't want to give up the cancel power. If they honestly admitted it's just mob/vigilante justice, they might have to consider that such tactics have no place in civilized society and it's a sign of our regression as a culture and society that we are allowing and even encouraging this sort of behavior.

[quote]I posted about Beverly Johnson’s accusations because she doesn’t come across as someone who is credible.

Yeah, posted 15 times

Not sure Franken comes under the heading of "an allegation," though. It's a better example than Woody Allen, definitely, and that first accuser was absolutely lying, no question. Unfortunately, there were eight women in total and the overall picture was of a guy who liked to do the kissy-kissy squeezie-squeezie thing with the ladies.

If it happened today, he'd weather it with almost no problem. The issue was not just that there were eight separate women, but that there were Democrats who stupidly thought that if they took the high road it would set the tone for how Trump was regarded with his own sleaziness. It didn't happen and pretty much everyone in the country could have told them that.

R107 it happened near the peak of the #metoo hysteria - and it was hysteria.

It's not Democrats being stupid, it's Democrats thinking "we need to set an example, or we can't scold others who do this without being hypocrites". There was logic behind it, however short-sighted.

Has Dana commented yet?

FIRED AGAIN!

Way to go, SJP!

The Sag and the City gals have come out in support of the accusers, via their Instagram. Perhaps cleverly it's via Instagram story, so once you've seen their message, it disappears.

So I had to ask myself: if that's your story, shouldn't you stick to it?

Across town, Chris Noth's future had gone south.

A lot of people were prepared to stick up for Al Franken, but he just up and quit. Just from the pictures, I didn't think he did anything wrong and knew they were just joking around. But I think there was more going on or maybe he was afraid something else would come out.

But it was his choice to leave