I'm spending my morning watching The Women

Get to work you lazy fucker.

Joan's hairstyle was very unflattering.

She looked much too old to be shopgirl bait for a married man.

Lol r1

I love Virgina Weilder!

Buck Winston - the chambermaid's delight!

Thanks for the tip. But when anything I wear doesn't please Stephen, I take it off.

Mr. Stephen Haines was loitering in the hotel bar bathroom last night, fellating a Mr. Buck Winston.

"Thanks, dear!"

Don't you have better things to do, Senatrice?

Not jealous but I am off today and I will likely do the same. Thanks for the idea! I welcome such fluff during the holiday season.

Why yes, I AM jealous, OP.

And R2, Crystal hooked Mr. Haines because (despite that trashy hairdo) she did things that wives wouldn't do.

No, not jealous, OP. I am--no kidding--DELIRIOUSLY HAPPY for you. That film is one of life's great pleasures.

Fags!

There's a word for you OP, but outside of kennels, it's not said in polite society.

Good taste is never your forté, OP.

This will probably be an unpopular opinion around here, but I think The Women is a very flawed film. It’s biggest fault is George Cukor’s crude, heavy-handed direction. He made the movie into low comedy. If he had used a lighter touch, such as he used a year later in The Philadelphia Story, The Women would be funnier, more enjoyable, and would allow Clare Booth Luce’s dialogue to really shine. The film’s second fault is Adrian’s costumes. Like most of his work, they’re over the top and are really dated. Their mannered and vulgar conception matches Cukor’s coarse direction, but not Clare Booth Luce’s witty dialogue.

R7 La publicite’! La publicite’!

SUMMER RAIN!

Stop talking! Post your favorite clips!

[quote] The film’s second fault is Adrian’s costumes.

Gowns!

There's a name for you ladies, but it isn't used in high society... outside of a kennel.

[quote]The film’s second fault is Adrian’s costumes. Like most of his work, they’re over the top and are really dated.

Who would ever expect the clothes worn in a movie made 82 years ago to be really dated?

I suddenly want some Pancakes Barbara.

I've had it on DVD for ages.

Get me a bromide, and put some gin in it!

I spent part of my morning with Lucy Ricardo and Richard Widmark's grapefruit.

[quote]This will probably be an unpopular opinion around here

Yes, because it's totally uninformed, r16.

Learn English, OP

Of course, of course. And as you say, you've had so MANY men.

“I hate to tell you, dear, but your skin makes the Rockies look like chiffon velvet.”

R22. When I said that Adrian’s costume designs were dated, I meant that they only showed the superficial and clumsy characteristics of fashions of their period. There were numerous other Hollywood designers whose designs were of their time but which can still be regarded as elegant and imaginative. Orr-Kelly, Bernard Newman, Howard Greer, and many others were doing work far superior to Adrian’s concoctions. A designer such as Travis Blanton could do extravagant, fantastical work but still have his designs retain their freshness decades later. Adrian, attempting to design in this idiom, just couldn’t cut it.

Adrian's look for The Women was totally appropriate and provided commentary, r31.

[quote]I meant that they only showed the superficial and clumsy characteristics of fashions of their period.

Yes...they provided commentary

*2* GIRLS *2*

[quote] Sylvia Fowler: "You know I go to Sydney's for my hair. You ought to go, pet. I DESPISE whoever's doing yours."

[quote]There were numerous other Hollywood designers whose designs were of their time but which can still be regarded as elegant and imaginative. Orr-Kelly, Bernard Newman, Howard Greer, and many others were doing work far superior to Adrian’s concoctions.

You forgot Travilla.

R35. Travilla, definitely. The few I named were just what popped into my head at the moment. There were so many great designers...Irene, Walter Plunkett, Jean Louis.......

L'amour, toujours l'amour. My favorite line in just about any movie.

Is the remake worth watching? I love love LOVE Deb Messing and would watch her recite the phone book, she is THAT GOOD, but I don't want to waste my time.

R34, that’s my favorite line.

[quote]Is the remake worth watching? I love love LOVE Deb Messing and would watch her recite the phone book, she is THAT GOOD, but I don't want to waste my time.

The remake stinks to high heaven. But go ahead and watch it if you don't believe me, R38. It makes the 1956 musical remake "The Opposite Sex" look brilliant by comparison.

June SIZZLES in slacks and Peter Pan collar...

Them big, strong, red-headed men... they're fierce!

I rewatched it last night because of this thread.

For the first time, I watched it with captions and I was really struck by how smart the script is. I've always viewed the movie as just a silly confection with fun performances, but it's a lot more sophisticated than I ever realized.

Also—and this may get me banned from DL, but—what the hell is everyone's problem with Norma Shearer?? Her performance in this movie is really, really impressive. I watched her face and her mannerisms and paid attention to her vocal delivery, and she's really excellent in this film.

As is Joan Crawford, whose acting doesn't usually impress me. It is probably easier in a way to play a catty bitch—Jungle Red!—than a more nuanced role, but she was really convincing in this role and she is great in scenes when she flip-flops between seducing men on the phone and snarling at the women in the room with her. I think it's a smarter performance than Mildred Pierce.

I absolutely adore Rosalind Russell in everything, but her exaggerated performance in this one stands out as a bit cartoonish (which is good comic relief) and flat compared with some of the other women.

Also, Virginia Weidler wasn't exactly a realistic actress, but that little girl had real gravitas. She holds her own and stands out in this movie and the Philadelphia Story right alongside the adults.

There are those of us on DL who adore Norma and rightly consider those who don't deaf, dumb and blind. She is especially fine in The Women.

And it's a far superior film to the Philadelphia Story which crashes and burns halfway through with that crap about Hepburn needing to be taken down off her high horse, being the reason her father becomes a philanderer and who was seen going into somebody's bedroom. Ugh. A disappointment if there ever was one. Worth it though for Ruth Hussey.

And Adrian was one of cinema's finest costume designers. Whoever wrote that post will certainly go down as a nominee for DL idiot poster of 2021.

That movie was for FRAUS

The movie was for QUEENS with good taste, r45

[quote]As is Joan Crawford, whose acting doesn't usually impress me.

I think she's wonderful in Grand Hotel, r43.

L'amour, l'amour toujor l'amour....

I'd rather have the itch...

Watch The Women once a year. It's a delight. It is perhaps 10 minutes too long, which is why I skip over the fashion show. I love waiting for the line deliveries and reaction shots. But the movie has nothing to do with the real world. I have often wondered if the play was in reaction to the growing conflicts in Europe, the rise of Hitler, appeasement, and so on. A piece of delicious velvet chiffon before everyone put on a hair shirt and did their bit for God and country.