What do you know about Wales?

It's home to this guy.

Su'mae!

It's a little known fact that the people of Wales are the closest living relative of our friend species, the whales.

The natives are forever youthful.

The dark Welsh are some of the most handsome men in the world!

HUGE PENISES!

Wales is the home of the world's largest chili cookoff. It is held once every three years.

In Wales all seems to breathe freedom and peace, and to make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.

[quote] Since discovering I'm 1/3 Welsh, I've become fascinated with my people.

They are correctly known as Welshx.

That's actually Terlingua R7 but I know you were just kidding.

Its flag features a big red dragon and its national symbol is the leek. Weird place, in a good way.

Cymru (Wales) is pronounced CUM-ree.

OP, why are you people always coming Chrissy Metz?

One-third Welsh.

What a fascinating parentage and ancestry proportion.

Or was this because your mother fucked two Cardiffer men and she doesn't know which is the father?

I know Tom Cullen is from Wales.

I like this novel set in medieval Wales.

Welshman Tom Cullen is one of the most beautiful men on the planet.

My favorite scene from Downton. He looks gorgeous and his voice is deep and manly. I love it when he says to Mary, "Don't punish me for want to see you again." From 1:00 to 1:15 in the video. So fucking sexy and fuckable!

Diana was proudly Welsh-adjacent.

The mightiest weapon in the Medieval English arsenal was the English Warbow.

The English Warbow was Welsh.

Men's choruses, coal mining and drinking.

Tom Joes was so hot back in the day. Another Welshman with a big penis. Yum!

100% Welsh baby!

More sexy Tom!

Engelbert Humperdinck is 1/2 Welsh. Again, big penis.

The streams run black in places (saw this).

The people are great raconteurs and book-lovers.

My father and his siblings had the black hair of their Welsh-Irish Celtic heritage.

The great English kings and queens The Tudors, were really Welsh.

I'll take Welshman #47, Mike Phillips (from OP's link). I assume he's a footballer.

Terry Jones was Welsh. Comic genius. We saw him nude on the show and in the movies, though not sure we ever saw him full frontal.

Isn't Christian Bale Welsh?

[Quote] Isn't Christian Bale Welsh?

Yes! Again another big penis.

As is Anthony Hopkins and as was Richard Burton, formerly of General Hospital.

[Quote] Since discovering I'm 1/3 Welsh, I've become fascinated with my people

🙄 Americans are exhausting.

Roman ancestry is negligible in Britain. England and Scotland have more blondes because they have more Germanic ancestry.

I think the Celts (pre-Roman/pre-Anglo-Saxon) were dark, swarthy, short -- think Tom Jones, Richard Burton, Rachel Roberts.

It was the Vikings and the Germans (Angles/Saxons) who brought in the blond or red hair and height and the original Celts had scurried off to the Welsh mountains and over to Ireland (the "black Irish).

I think, anyway. I guess the Vikings had their way in Scotland and some made their way to Ireland as well -- plus the "Danelaw" had the largest number of Vikings - any placename with "by" on the end was Danish.

Oh some of that is right - 40 years since grad school in British Isles history.

North Wales is the spittoon of the Country, it's populated by poor Scousers (Liverpool) and travellers.

It can easily also take 4+ hours to travel from North to South.

Unlike the rest of the British Isles, the Welsh are known to relish sex and not be uptight about it. Great singers, too. Wonder if that's related?

[Quote] It can easily also take 4+ hours to travel from North to South.

That's it?

Luke Evans is #1 at OPs links. Huge penis!

Reading the names on the bright red banners gave me a headache. Seriously.

I think Michael Sheen is sexy.

michael sheen was so sexy in underworld.

Dame Shirley

I was gonna say OP they tend to be darker and stocky (or at least that’s what I’ve been told)

What is funny about their cartoons? Edina makes a remark about them in one of the early episodes of Absolutely Fabulous.

Only about half of the best looking 50 are good looking. Do better, Wales!

All those middling listed men above, and yet, no mention of me, surely one of the sexiest actors of the "aughts" ?

Taffy was a Welshman, Taffy was a thief; Taffy came to my house and stole a leg of beef; I went to Taffy's house and Taffy was in bed; I upped with the jerry pot and hit him on the head.

Sir Francis Bacon had a penchant for male Welsh servants to fuck, so their looks were admired even back then.

R37 4+ hour driving time is quite bad for a place that only measures 130 miles North to South.

The road system in Wales is terrible.

They have hot men.

I love that they have soap operas in Welsh with gay storylines.

R34, Grad school?! I taught all that (Danelaw, place names/suffixes, etc.) to American high school seniors!

R39 and r40, Michael Sheen has a baby chin!

Every third family in Wales has the surname Jones

Williams may be even more common. Jenkins, Hawkins, and Cullen also are common.

How can you be one-third of something? You have four grandparents and eight great-grandparents. Unless you're a PhD statistician and can calculate something really complicated.

The ladies wear chimney pot hats.

R56 The woman on the left looks like Boris Johnson in drag.

Wales was the stronghold of the Druids, a religious order so batshit crazy, savage and troublesome that they freaked the Romans out like no other group.

Rome usually left their colonies to worship in their own way, but the Druids drove them mad and they launched all-out war against them.

Back in the late 90s I spent a lovely few days in Colwyn Bay at the seaside holiday home of the GM of our Liverpool business. One of the more enjoyable few days I've ever had. I found the people of the area to be very lovely.

Pobol y Cym!

[quote] Isn't Christian Bale Welsh?

[quote] Yes! Again another big penis.

Wrong! He was born in Wales to English parents.

"I was born in Wales but I'm not Welsh—I'm English."

Sir Owen Tudor (Welsh: Owain ap Maredudd ap Tudur, c. 1400 – 2 February 1461) was a Welsh courtier and the second husband of Catherine of Valois (1401–1437), widow of King Henry V of England. He was the grandfather of Henry VII, founder of the Tudor dynasty.

If you find a good looking Welsh man with a gravelly voice, take him off somewhere for a fuck.

I've never been disappointed on this one.

I know none of its "Princes" since Arthur, son of Henry VII, had much Welsh ancestry.

Henry VII's claim to the English throne came from his mother, Margaret Beaufort, who was descended from one of John of Gaunt's bastard children (later legitimized after John married the mother).

Owen Tudor has sex with a barely 13 year old Margaret. She gave birth at 14 to Henry.

Sorry, it was Jaspar Tudor who had sex with 13 year old Marge.

Back in the olden days it used to be called Westeros.

Don't they have some prince with a red face?

Looks like all the limeys have chimed in overnight. How fucking tiresome.

Two fat ladies walk into a bar They order drinks, in a thick accent. "You two ladies from Ireland?" asks the bartender. Offended, one of them replies "Wales!" "Oh I'm so sorry," says the bartender, "Are you two whales from Ireland?"

That reminds me of the tv series Two Fat Ladies. God I loved those gals (RIP Jennifer and Clarissa!)

I stayed in a small clothing-optional guest house in Fort Lauderdale. There was a couple there from Wales. One of them had an enormous cock while his partner was merely well-hung. They hated it there because it rained all the time.

Wales is about the size of Belgium.

Mike Phillips is a beautiful man...

And Richard Parks can look very attractive, even if he isn't really handsome.

Matthew Rhys and Jamie Dornan debate Wales vs. Ireland.

Monty Python's Terry Jones - another small, dark Celtic-looking Welshman

The name of the village of Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch on Anglesey is now often abbreviated to Llanfairpwllgwyngyll, which is sad. People just won’t put the effort in nowadays.

Bah, D/L has obviously hyphenated that which should not be hyphenated!

The original Britons (including the Welsh) before the fair-skinned northern European invasions of the 6th and 9th centuries were dark.

R55, I am a detail nerd and go with your logic that it has to be an even proportion of heritage unless there was some of that Crisper gene splicing.

Cetology is a popular university major.

Alas, I am the only Gay in the village…

I saw a noirish TV series (called Hinterland), which was set in Wales near Aberystwyth and starring a weathered-looking Richard Harrington.

Most of the characters were unhappy, but Harrington became sexier to me with each subsequent episode.

Large, thick cocks.

[quote]It can easily also take 4+ hours to travel from North to South.

In the US 4 hours is nothing. That's how long it takes to get from NYC to Boston.

R86 Bet that's more than 130 miles (max) though.

To do it in 4+ hours you need to travel back into England and then cross back to Wales, directly through Wales it'd take 6+ hours.

What I wouldn't give for a pair of scissors.

I love Welsh men and Welsh music as well :)

Exhibit A:

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Exhibit C:

Exhibit C:

Oops, sorry for double post!

Exhibit D:

Callum Scott Howells

Exhibit E: (last for now)

And OP, if you want to learn a little Welsh, you can use Duolingo or Say Something in Welsh :)

Dw i'n gwneud yr cwrs SSiW am tua mis rwan, a dw i'n licio'r cwrs yn fawr! (I'm doing the SSiW course for about a month now, and I like the course at lot!)

Taron.

Op sounds annoying as shit. Wales is nothing other than a few dozen—literally—hot men with foreskin. Bad thread

r98 = bitter tiny meat limey.

Rarebit is the national dish.

Welsh looks totally unpronounceable. Nothing but "y" and "w"!

Shwmae, R101-

"w" makes the sound of "u" = "oo" "y" makes a kind of schwa sound "uh" unless it's at the end of a multi-syllable word, in which case it makes a long "e" sound "ee"

as tricky as it looks when written, Welsh is actually quite phonetic!

What does one do with all the Ls. They always seem redundant.

R103 The "double L" is referred to as "the voiceless alvelor lateral fricative."

lloll

The land of thick thick dick!

Shwmae a noswaith da, R103! (Hello and good evening!)

The single L makes exactly the sound you would expect from English :)

The LL (which is actually considered a different letter and a single letter, much as in Spanish) makes a sound which is quite distinctive. You place your tongue as if to say L, but then kind of blow air past it through the corner of your mouth, without your vocal cords vibrating. It's a bit different compared to what you're probably used to, but not a difficult sound to make.

Related to this is the F and FF: single F makes the sound of "v", and FF makes the sound of "f".

The linked playlist is a great introduction to the pronunciation, including regional variations (there are minor differences between North and South Wales, but nothing that impairs understanding).

DLers think every guy they're attracted to has a big dick.

There isn't any evidence Welsh guys have bigger dicks than anyone else

R106 = deluded Welshman, no teeth, thin penis

r108 = projecting micro meat

R107, R108 = terribly confused and deluded

R110 Must be Tom Jones boosting the average?

I wasn't attracted to the Welsh guy I met in Florida with the huge dick. It was just out there...like an anaconda.

Wales are mammals not fish.

I've heard Wales is the West Virginia of the UK...miners and hicks. I'm not reading through 113 replies, so sorry if this is already stated.

Can anyone name 10 Welsh homosexuals?

They're not all household names but I'd say:

1. Luke Evans

2. Rugby player Gareth Thomas

3. Rugby referee Nigel Owens

4. Sprinter/hurdler Colin Jackson

5. Weatherman Owain Wyn Evans

6. Callum Scott Howells (poor dead Colin from It's A Sin)

7. Writer Russell T Davies

8. Politician Adam Price

9. H from Steps

10 Tony nominee and Olivier winner Daniel Evans

Not especially dark

R114 Only a couple of coal mines left I'm afraid. Aberpergwm colliery, near Glynneath and Ffos-y-fran open cast mine in the north east of Merthyr Tydfil.

They probably only employ a couple of hundred people between them.

Richard Burton said he tried the gay but it just didn't work for him - but he thought most actors were gay and that's why they were tortured. Oh something like that. He said it decades ago so they probably were tortured, assuming they aren't still.

I think Richard Burton may have tried it more than once, his surname comes from his 'Mentor' Phillip Burton.

(didn't he also fuck Eddie Fisher?)

Richard Jenkins (Burton) lived with Phillip for years.

Maybe what Burton said was that's why actors are so often alcoholics because of the closet. I just don't remember but something along those lines.

Massive penises!

R111, yes Tom Jones is hung, but also apparently cold and selfish in bed -- Elvira (Cassandra Peterson) dished on him in her memoirs.

R116, thanks for Calon Lan -- diolch!

R117, sut wyt ti heddiw?

More music: Bright Light Bright Light is the project of Welshman Rod Thomas (openly gay and hot)

more BLx2:

Cardiff is a shit-hole.

The perennial abused gay Iolo in Pobol y Cwm

I'd love to learn a bit of Welsh.

What does "Fuck me harder" mean in Welsh?

Thanks in advance.

Fuck fi'n galetach

R66 it wasn't Jasper, but Edmund Tudor.

And he fucked and impregnated her when she was 12. He insisted on consummating the marriage, even despite canonic laws advising against it.

[quote]The natives seem darker than other United Kingdom countries. Influenced by the Roman Empire occupation way back when?

After the Romans departed Britain in the 5th Century, they left behind a Romano-British culture, particularly in the Southeast, and the natives spoke British Latin alongside Brittonic. The Romans who occupied Britain were mostly soldiers and administrators and their slaves, who came from all parts of the Empire and could very well have mixed with the local populace. When the Anglo-Saxons arrived, they displaced the eastern and southern Britons, while the Brittonic speaking people of the west, split into distinct groups: the Welsh, the Cornish, and the Bretons in Britanny.

OP How did you find out you were "one-third" Welsh?

If it was one of those DNA testing companies, you, like most people, have misinterpreted the data.

Nobody (yet) can tell if you are "one-third" anything. The companies themselves admit that this is still an inexact science that keeps changing.

What they are saying is that of the DNA sample you gave them, of what they were able to extract that was long enough to read, about one-third matched the DNA of people in their reference base who they believe are 100% Welsh. And those reference bases are startlingly small.

If they change their algorithms and measure differently, the percentages change with them.

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but the terms used by the companies are misleading, although some are more upfront about it than others.

And if you used Ancestry, be even more sceptical.

You can send six samples in to 6 different companies and get 6 different answers. After testing a few out of curiosity I found that out quickly. It was bizarre. 23andme seemed to be the most accurate. If you have a father, brother, or paternal uncle whose DNA sample you can get, you would get even more information.

And, presumably you have another 66% something else in your DNA. Are they any more "your" people?

Just sayin' . . .

Actually I think they do a good job, except for maybe CRI Genetics which has a teeny database. You know it's all about probabilities and percentages and people are not wise enough to understand statistics, as a rule.

"Fuck fi'n galetach"

This sounds great. And hot.

I'm starting to feel a certain stiffness in my nether regions right now ...

Tawel Nos (Silent Night)

[quote]Since discovering I'm 1/3 Welsh

Ok, sure.

[quote]I've become fascinated with [bold]my[/bold] people.

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Any (gay) gossip about welsh actor Alex Vlahos? He's engaged to a woman, but he pings.

He's straight, as is Iwan Rheon, Aneurin Barnard, Jacob Ifan and jolie laide Tom Harries.

Like Irish and Scottish, Welsh are prone to rosacea, sometimes called "The Curse of the Celts."

Some people on DL (not naming names or reply numbers) don't understand basic math and are assuming that OP only received Welsh inheritance from one parent. However, every person has 4 grandparents and 16 great great grandparents. If 6 of those 16 great great grandparents were 100% Welsh (drawing from either side), the resulting percentage of "Welshness" would be about 37%. . Pretty close to 1/3rd. If we went out to 32 great great great grandparents, we could come up with a number even closer to 33% However, as others have rightly pointed out, current DNA tests would be unable to pinpoint that percentage with such accuracy, because genetic markers from Europeans are just not that specific. (Our ancestors moved around a lot and fucked everywhere they went - or at least, marauding soldiers did). On the other hand, OP might know or have found out from some source the exact name and nationality of each of his 16 great great grandparents. That would be unusual. (I only know the names and origins of about 4 of my 16, although I know that 8 of the 16 were from Ireland, because my mom's parents were both born in Ireland). Still, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's correct that he's 1/3rd Welsh.

I did that DNA thing and they first said I was 39% Scandinavian and I was so thrilled - not sure why, never heard of any Nordic ancestors but my grandmother's maiden name was "Watkins"

-- anyway they re-did my numbers for some reason and then I got 88% England and NW Europe (WTF?) and 12% Scottish/Irish. I think they threw the Welsh in with the English or maybe the Watkins ancestor was adopted... oh well, like everybody in the SE I was sure I had some Cherokee but no such luck.

Oh and they re-did it yet again and gave me back 9% Norwegian! Tusen takk! to Ancestry.com

[quote]Like Irish and Scottish, Welsh are prone to rosacea, sometimes called "The Curse of the Celts."

The Curse of the Irish is small dicks.

I tell you, Ancestry sucks.

That said, poster upthread is right that European markers can get spread around pretty extensively. What your grandparents were ethnically doesn't necessarily mean that they genetically completely matched their ethnicity, because people in Europe moved around and crossed borders. Someone from Poland marries someone from Hungary and they go to one or the other's town to live, and the grandchildren think of themselves as Polish or Hungarian, and then do a DNA test and find out that there's Polish, Hungarian, Slovak, Russian, Ukrainian mixed in . . .

A friend of mine had it done by 23andme - his grandfather was born in Spain, in the north, but was tall, blond, and blue-eyed. Sure enough, his test came back with a surprising amount of German DNA. When he looked up the region his grandfather came from, it was the only region in Spain where old German DNA is found, because it was as far as the Visigoths got when they invaded centuries earlier. But, of course, his grandfather felt himself to be wholly and proudly Spanish.

Either Ancestry's algorithms or reference panel, are flawed. R140, try 23andme and see what they tell you. Also, as I said, if you have first-degree male relatives willing to participate (father, brother, father's brother), send in his and yours and they'll be able to do your paternal haplogroup and you'll get a much fuller picture.

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