Trazadone

Take your fucking pill and shut up!

I know nothing of this drug, but I’ve been listening to a song that goes on about the drug Darvon and it’s high. Any elder gays use that one on here?

Ok for very short periods. It's an anti-psychotic in heavy doses, a sleep drug in lower doses. FYI, its fine to take for a week or two. DO NOT KEEP TAKING IT.

If memory serves correctly, it can cause diabetes (or make existing diabetes worse) and cause a total shutdown of your pituitary gland (i think).

There are a dozen other drugs you can use long term for sleep. Any drug you use for sleep you will eventually become reliant on and its best to take them 2-3 days per week max. but this is a HUGE NO NO in anything other than a very short term. Use it tonight, use it tomorrow, make an appointement with another doctor and get something else prescribed.

I asked for something for anxiety and my dr prescribed me this. He said just to take it if I felt really anxious

[quote]There are a dozen other drugs you can use long term for sleep.

Thanks r3. Sounds like good advice and you know what you are talking about.

What sleep medications do you like?

I think I'll only need it short term. My injury is what has been keeping me up plus I'm staying with my parents which is a bit stressful though they are trying to help.

R2 Darvon was banned in the States more than a decade ago.

Trazadone was developed as an anti-depressant, but its chief value seems to be as a sleep aid. I have taken it on and off for years with no side affects. The antihistamine Hydroxyzine also works very well as a sleep aid.

It's a forty-year-old antidepressant but no one really prescribes it as that anymore. These days it's mainly prescribed off-label for insomnia. It isn't that great for people who have a hard time falling asleep. It's much better for those who are able to fall asleep on their own but wake up after a few hours.

For those people, it tends to keep them asleep all night, and sometimes longer than they'd like. It also can cause a hung-over feeling the next morning and grogginess that lasts well into the next day.

The doctors who prescribe it usually do so because it isn't a controlled substance and they most likely take it themselves from time to time. It's pretty common on days off when someone wants to catch up on sleep but is conditioned to wake up at six without an alarm.

Trazadone is an anti-depressant, not an anti-psychotic. It is not dangerous to use long term. I've taken it to help me sleep for five years, with no ill effect.

I knew someone about 5yrs ago who was prescribed it as an antidepressant, but she declined to take it. My mother & grandmother were prescribed it as a sleep aid, & they both hated it.

Neither here nor there, but trazodone was the ICU drug of choice during the height of the pandemic. The holy grail at that time was the ability to sleep away one's day off, and everyone was taking it.

I don't have a problem falling or staying asleep, but I took it once and slept straight though until one in the afternoon. It wasn't a good feeling for me, but I can see why it's popular with people who pop them as a PRN thing.

I’ve used it for years as a sleep aid. It’s the only thing that works.

I loved them. Back when I was doing coke, one pill would put you right out.

I have a few left. They work intermittently for me, so i stopped using them because I really got upset when they failed to help me sleep.

It didn't help me sleep at all.

I use it to calm down my hyper dog.

makes you gain a ton of weight.

have fun getting fat OP!

Trazodone… More like TrazoBONE!

It’s most commonly prescribed for insomnia and generally tolerated well other than some occasional residual grogginess.

However, very rarely, it can cause priapism, a fancy word for a painful prolonged boner that if left hard long enough, can lead to permanent erectile dysfunction or worse - penis necrosis! The treatment many times is sticking a big needle in your pecker and draining it of all its blood.

Enjoy your night’s rest!

I took it for years as a sleep aid. I stopped taking it after I fainted after taking it one time, which is a known side effect

"Trazadone is an anti-depressant, not an anti-psychotic. It is not dangerous to use long term. I've taken it to help me sleep for five years, with no ill effect."

Pretty sure you're wrong about the first part (historically) and an idiot for writing the second. And possibly a liar. Because I think you wrote the exact same thing about some other drug that was being discussed here "with no ill effect. Might be an honest response but it would be wild if someone on here was sick enough to purposely give dangerous advice for kicks

I'm going to assume you're an idiot with a shitty doctor. If im wrong, i'll come back to correct myself on this thread, but the drug has a very very high incidence of giving long term users diabetes. Not everyone who takes it. A LOT though. I took it for months, then switched doctors and the new dr wouldn't keep prescribing it.

It is the most Datalounge thing ever to tell a stranger that drug is safe because you *personally* haven't had an issue with it. The self centeredness of the comment is just fucking wild.

Can cause dizziness

DIdn't help me at all. In fact, it made me hyper and unable to fall asleep. And it was developed to treat depression but now is typically prescribed as a sleep aid.

I knew a girl who took Trazadone and then she died.

I used it several times and thought it was a horrible drug, lasted into the next day with foggy thinking, no thanks.

One of the 27 different pills I've had prescribed for my insomnia (which I've had since birth, according to my parents). It was not good for me. Also not good: soma, ambien, antihistamines, any over the counter sleep aid/nytol/nyquil. I've tried herbal remedies that people swear by (passionflower, skullcap, valerian, chammomile, etc). Nothing works. Yes, I've tried excersize, no caffiene, dark room, no electronics.

THC doesn't help me sleep, unless it is in chocolate, and then only when it is 50MG or more, which is expensive, and I still wake up 4 hours later. Alcohol makes me pass out, then wake up sick 2 hours later.

Valium and clonzapem work, as does xanax, but those are addictive, and insomnia is better than addiction, or so I am told.

I didn't have any luck with it. It was the only thing my doctor gave me for insomnia, it didn't make me fall asleep faster, and when I did sleep, I had nightmares more than usual and a foggy-headed hangover feeling the next day. When I said it didn't work, the doctor said it was fine to stop taking it but didn't recommend anything else.

Rory, R10, R17, R18, mirror my experience. I loved it and prayed for the priapism! Lol. I’ve never heard of anyone using it as an anti-psychotic and I worked in a lot of hospitals. The most common use I’ve heard of is as an anti-depressant and/or sleeper. It worked very well for me with no discernible side effects.

Anyone have experience with Temazepam? Are these basically the same drug??

[quote]What sleep medications do you like?

Heroin shuppozhitoriezh.

Have you tried counting sheep, r24?

R24 My profile is exactly the same. I am just a terrible sleeper. My experience with trazadone was a jittery state of have consciousness, and a groggy feeling on that following morning. It’s like trying to sleep but having bad jet lag, or being too tired to fall asleep.

I’m an insomniac and I see and feel the impact of that more and more. I’m actually very concerned for plaques in my brain because I understand that deep sleep is essential for the brain to process and “flush” away metabolites and compounds produced during your waking hours. It sucks. I am very envious of my siblings and friends who are able to sleep soundly and not have to think about it at all.

Ugh “jittery state of half-consciousness “, or semi-consciousness

R 24-- I work overnight shifts and sleeping in the day is hard for me. I have been taking 25mg THC gel capsules and my sleep has been much better.

The product is ABX Sleepy Time capsules (indica) and they come in 5 mg or 25 mg gel caps. At max price they are $3 each (before added taxes) but I got a bottle of 30 on sale for $72 the other day.

I like em because I just swallow with water, don't have to eat a nasty tasting edible and guess how much will work. One capsule does it for me, two would probably work for you. I take one soon after I get home from work and in an hour or two I feel ready to sleep. The way it helps me most is when I get up to pee or eat something, I am able to go BACK to sleep until my alarm goes off for work. I have not had any residual grogginess or feeling high when I wake up.

In SF I buy them at Purple Star. There are other brands available that I have not tried.

I took it for several months with no side effects. But, as others have noted, it made me sleep long into the following day. I usually couldn't get up before 11!

Most people fuck up by taking these sleep meds at bedtime, when in reality these drugs take 12-14 hours to work their way out of your brain. I have to drop a pill like this at 5pm and call it a day if I expect to do anything productive the following the day.

Yes it can make you gain weight but a huge problem with trazadone is that non-psychiatrist prescribe too low of a dose. This happens very often. Then when you eventually land with a psyc they will up your dose if they keep you on it. You really need to be taking 150mg or more, even up to 300mg to make it work. Of course as your doc first.

Too many people take 50mg or even 25mg and wonder why it’s not working.

The last stop on the sleep medication train is seroquil. I’f that doesn’t work then you have to go the Michael Jackson route.

"clonzapem "

Oh, dear!

The last good sleep I had was during my colonoscopy about 3 years ago-- and they used the MJ drug, propyphol! So sad. My sleep really sucks and nothing really works.

Causes memory Loss

Klonopin, Seroquel, Ketamine infusions…my wealthy, under-employed friends and siblings ended up in “pill mill” care and lost a lot of their identity and friendships being “self-estranged”. By that I mean they turn into someone else, super confident in project ideas and hyper-focused on strange things, and unable to read and relate to others. If you’re lonely, bored, pushed out of your career too soon, there must be a great temptation to find happiness (focus, confidence, etc) in a brown bottle of pills. But it’s so hard to turn back and rediscover your own biochemistry after a decade of progressive psychopharmacology. You can disappear into a a shitty regime of mental health care (usually a PA or allied health professional prescribing under the license of a physician you never actually see). This is a sketchy arrangement, and it’s really easy to end up over your head. Next stop, rehab, “to adjust my meds”. I’m really careful around people who are deep into these medications. It’s sad and scary.

R38 Exactly. These meds have all kinds of side effects like tremors, tics, memory loss. It’s really sad to see people ravaged by meds like these that are prescribed pretty casually, and too often by under-credentialed health professionals. I’d only take something from a psychiatrist who is also Board certified in neurology. Yet it looks like there are easier ways to get these drugs prescribed, and that’s not great for anyone, least of all for the people around you if you’re over your head into happy pills, focus pills, all of these. Provigil, Vyvanse, and a lot of extra nasties to manage side effects and anti-cholinergics. Seriously, stay away from Zombiland, if you can.

R24: try upping your vitamin D intake. I read that low levels can make sleeping harder. I tried it and it helped me a lot. I can’t remember where I read it either at Johns Hopkins, The Mayo Clinic or The Cleveland Clinic websites.

Also, get your thyroid checked.

R41 Vitamin D, of course! My doctor says vitamin D deficiency is super common. I started taking it after my last physical and it seems to help with sleep and with joint stiffness. And it’s cheap, and legal, and easy to find.

Unrelated, but one big “No no” would be trying Tylenol PM or NyQuil and damaging your liver with toxic levels of pain relievers that don’t cycle through your system before you take the next dosage to get some rest.

Was prescribed it before because I had trouble sleeping. Didn't work as well as Rhovane / Imovane which were exactly what I needed. On-demand sleep.

I took it for about 5 years. I was taking it as a sleep aid. I took it every night and should not have because it almost was addictive. I also did not like that I never dreamed taking this drug and could never just wake up...had to set an alarm. I stopped taking it gradually and very happy I did...I think what people are saying about taking it occassionally is correct.

It worked for me. My psychiatrist prescribed it for my insomnia when I was first treated for depression. The weird dreams are common. I attended Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance (DBSA) meetings which I highly recommend if you are working out which prescriptions work for you. I learned a lot about how to track and report symptoms to my doctor from DBSA. At any rate, some of the trazodone dream reports I heard were wild.

I have suffered from insomnia since puberty, possibly when my depression first kicked in. I didn't exactly enjoy trazodone, but I was productive and didn't dread sleepless nights which hit at least once a week. I stayed on it for years. I discovered when I visited a friend who put me in a basement bedroom with no windows and no alarm clock that my trazodone dosage would keep me asleep for 12-14 hours if there was nothing there to wake me.

Now I'm retired and I sleep when I'm sleepy. I no longer have to be anywhere by 9 a.m., so I don't need to fall asleep by a certain time. No more trazodone. (I think my body doesn't run on a 24-hour schedule.)

I had really bad insomnia after bypass surgery several years ago, so my PCP prescribed it to help with sleeping, but it didn't seem to have any significant effect. Maybe, as some have pointed out, the prescribed dose wasn't enough, but I also remember, due to the drug not making me sleepy, taking an extra dose. However, a little while later I felt as though my throat was going to clam up on me and my mouth became really dry.

I told my doctor about it, and he told me to stop taking the drug, which I had already decided to do anyway. He put it on my medical record as a drug that I was allergic to.

Don't take it. Like many other drugs that mess with your sleep, it's correlated with dementia.

Try CBN if you can get it in your area.

Do you have to take Trazadone every day or can it be just once in a while?

It is so an antidepressant. It’s NOT an antipsychotic.

Has anyone tried Lunesta?

[quote]Klonopin, Seroquel, Ketamine infusions…my wealthy, under-employed friends and siblings ended up in “pill mill” care and lost a lot of their identity and friendships being “self-estranged”. By that I mean they turn into someone else, super confident in project ideas and hyper-focused on strange things, and unable to read and relate to others. If you’re lonely, bored, pushed out of your career too soon, there must be a great temptation to find happiness (focus, confidence, etc) in a brown bottle of pills. But it’s so hard to turn back and rediscover your own biochemistry after a decade of progressive psychopharmacology.

Though I wanted to protest with this statement, you are not wrong. Often what happens is that you can end up see an over prescribing MD in your late teens or young adult. You get diagnosed and put on a med regime that is meant to be almost indefinite. Often GP's do not understand metal health pharmacology and the side effects of rapidly weaning patients off of longterm meds. I've been taking Klonopin for 15 years every night before bed since I was an ADHD gayling. It fucks with your brain chemistry. I was given trazadon to replace the benzo but that's as useful as melatonin. I don't abuse my meds and have kept them status quo the entire time. The combo works but GP's are eager to get you quickly off any addictive meds and many are not aware of the long term side effects of rapid detox. They do help, so it's kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't for me.

Your neurotransmitters are off and diet, habit & exercise changes plus extensive labs to find deficiencies is the only non-Pharma solution. Start with a vitamin D test.

TrazOdone

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