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Joshua Bassett is a survivor

But who was the older man who abused him? Precocious boys can be very sexual and seek out male attention:

"I experienced sexual abuse a lot in my childhood.” He looks down and tears up as he continues: “I didn't remember that until last year, which is pretty insane. I buried it so far. And when I was a teen, a much older man routinely abused me, and I wasn't able to see it for what it was at the time."

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by Anonymousreply 276December 11, 2021 8:12 PM

Maybe one of the producers of his Disney channel show? The guy who is really into feet?

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by Anonymousreply 1December 4, 2021 5:32 PM

Any shirtless pics of the cute victim?

by Anonymousreply 2December 4, 2021 5:56 PM

Cute but skinny

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by Anonymousreply 3December 4, 2021 6:01 PM

[quote] The guy who is really into feet?

I think you mean Dan Schneider, but he worked for Nickelodeon.

by Anonymousreply 4December 4, 2021 6:23 PM

He’s very cute r3. Tight body.

I’d diddle him.

by Anonymousreply 5December 4, 2021 6:24 PM

So, he has experience with the homo sex.

by Anonymousreply 6December 4, 2021 6:26 PM

How do.you experience sexual abuse "a lot"? At some point wouldn't you say, "Don't touch me there anymore"?

by Anonymousreply 7December 4, 2021 9:48 PM

He started out as an extra on a Jennifer Lopez movie. He had a funny story about how he hugged the male star at the end of the shooting day but paid Lopez dust.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a similar situation to Ricky Garcia - a young performer who was abused by his manager/agent.

by Anonymousreply 8December 5, 2021 7:34 AM

[Quote] How do.you experience sexual abuse "a lot"? At some point wouldn't you say, "Don't touch me there anymore"?

Oprah has talked about how her body would betray her, i.e. she woul orgasm or something similar. This should give you some insight into how abuse can continue. Maybe Bassett enjoyed being held, hugged etc. - he was probably too young to orgasm - or some other such pleasurable feeling. And then there's the fact that abusers often threaten victims that they'll exact revenge if the victim stops them from continuing the abuse.

by Anonymousreply 9December 5, 2021 7:37 AM

[quote]I’d diddle him.

Me too.

by Anonymousreply 10December 5, 2021 7:38 AM

The music is improving.

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by Anonymousreply 11December 5, 2021 7:42 AM

This guy is cute as hell. I don't watch his show though nor heard any of his music. Is he gonna be the next Shawn Mendes?

by Anonymousreply 12December 5, 2021 10:01 AM

He's said that he's family so... not very Shawn Mendes.

by Anonymousreply 13December 5, 2021 10:10 AM

It’s funny that he’s not as gay acting as Shawn Mendes and yet he’s still out.

by Anonymousreply 14December 5, 2021 10:15 AM

Would he have come out if he hadn't been villainized by Olivia Rodrigo, though?

by Anonymousreply 15December 5, 2021 10:21 AM
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by Anonymousreply 16December 5, 2021 10:22 AM

Survivor? I thought he didn’t like labels.

by Anonymousreply 17December 5, 2021 10:27 AM

At this rate, he’ll come out as neurodivergent next year.

by Anonymousreply 18December 5, 2021 10:32 AM

I looked him up and watched some interview with him. He seems nice and speaks calmly and maturely which is refreshing. He said he's a member of the LGBTQ community in another interview. I think he's gay but Disney doesn't want him to come out as gay because of the teenage fangirls who want him to be "obtainable". He isn't effeminate but he's not straight-passing either. He's more low-key. Most gays are not over-the-top queens which straights cannot comprehend. He's definitely my type.

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by Anonymousreply 19December 5, 2021 10:33 AM

Teen idol boys now come out as "LGBTQ", "Queer" or "pan" to keep their image obtainable to their female audience. Coming as gay ruins that fantasy and also bisexual has negative connotations (which is frustrating as pan and queer doesn't).

by Anonymousreply 20December 5, 2021 10:36 AM

Now they don't honey.

by Anonymousreply 21December 5, 2021 10:46 AM

R15 I doubt it.

The worst part is the relationship was probably fake, being trashed over a fake relationship must be something hard to endure

by Anonymousreply 22December 5, 2021 10:56 AM

If the relationship was fake, they would be cool behind the scenes. It would seem that they are not. It's funny, because her bestie Cam Kasy is family.

by Anonymousreply 23December 5, 2021 11:07 AM

R22 The relationship with Olivia wasn’t fake though, he kinda confirms it in the GQ article from OP and his new song Crisis. After Olivia, he dated Sabrina Carpenter for real and both received a lot of hate from Olivia’s fans because of it. Sabrina and him wrote several songs about their relationship, too. Now he’s single. It seems he has never been in a gay relationship because he has had only three according to the GQ interview.

by Anonymousreply 24December 5, 2021 11:08 AM

Shawn Mendes mishandled his career. If he just came out properly a few years ago and spared us the tragic showmance with Camila and that awful Rollig Stone interview. He could have become like Steve Grand and Adam Lambert, where gays and women would still support him even into his 30s. As a teen idol, he was never meant to be sustainable in the mainstream idea and the smart route would be expanding an audience beyond fickle teen girls. The fact he seems like a vapid and histrionic queen with a sense of entitlement makes me not want to claim him when he finally comes out.

Joshua seems intelligent, mature and self-reflective. From what little music I've heard, it's not that bad and it sounds better arranged and more advanced than Shawn's music. He's also a better singer. Better representation in my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 25December 5, 2021 11:09 AM

R23 I think Cam Kasky came out as queer but he definitely has had relationships with girls. Apparently, he even dated Olivia’s best friend Iris Apatow, daughter of Judd Apatow.

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by Anonymousreply 26December 5, 2021 11:11 AM

[quote]Is he gonna be the next Shawn Mendes?

Whew gurl, we don't need another Shawn! Too many stunts hunny

by Anonymousreply 27December 5, 2021 11:11 AM

Steve Grand plays Provincetown and... almost nowhere else...

Sam Smith's album flopped. If you're not bringing the songs that people rate, your career will flatline. At this rate, it's not abou sexuality. Look at the hits Lil Nas X has been able to have.

by Anonymousreply 28December 5, 2021 11:11 AM

R25 Please, let’s be real. Steve Grand is a nobody in pop music and Adam a lambert has like 1.6 million Instagram followers while Shawn has 65 millions. If Shawn had come out, he would have only had a fraction of the fame and money he has now. His fanbase are teen girls who want to be in a relationship with him. If anything, you could say that somebody like Lil Nas X has marketed being gay much better. But Lil Nas was ground breaking, there was no precedence of an openly gay black rapper in pop music before.

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by Anonymousreply 29December 5, 2021 11:17 AM

Lil Nas is also super confident and brave while Shawn feels super threatened by gay rumors…..

by Anonymousreply 30December 5, 2021 11:19 AM

Eazy E wasn't gay?

by Anonymousreply 31December 5, 2021 11:23 AM

R31 Who?

Back to Joshua. He used to be a super cute kid so I am not surprised at all that pedos would target him.

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by Anonymousreply 32December 5, 2021 11:29 AM

I could care less about Olivia or Camila and their drama. I am a gay man interested in men. Not interested in the lives of those mediocre, narcissistic female pop tarts and their fake PR relationships that the fangirls on this site take everything at face value. That said, it must suck to be a teen idol and be in the closet because of marketing to hormonal, overemotional teen girls who are too immature to accept the fact they have no chance with you but still you have to pretend to be straight or use vague wording like "LBGTQ" anyway. I wish Joshua the best and I'm happy he took steps out of the closet and is opening up about being abused.

by Anonymousreply 33December 5, 2021 11:29 AM

He was also heavily involved in show business and musical theatre and Christian communities from his childhood. If I were his parent, I would have been super afraid of sexual abuse in these environments….

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by Anonymousreply 34December 5, 2021 11:32 AM

[Quote] He used to be a super cute kid so I am not surprised at all that pedos would target him.

Weird comment.

by Anonymousreply 35December 5, 2021 11:33 AM

[quote]“I didn't remember that until last year, which is pretty insane. I buried it so far. And when I was a teen, a much older man routinely abused me,

Would those of you who were getting fucked by older men as teens like to weigh in? Let's not act like it's an uncommon experience in the community. Do you look back on it as abuse?

by Anonymousreply 36December 5, 2021 11:38 AM

Anal doesn't have to happen for abuse to take place.

by Anonymousreply 37December 5, 2021 11:47 AM

[quote] I didn't remember that until last year, which is pretty insane. I buried it so far

Hasn't that kind of thing been debunked?

by Anonymousreply 38December 5, 2021 11:53 AM

I messed with older dudes. But my ass wasn’t good enough to get me a record deal, just a few Kroger coupons for BOGO pasta sauce.

by Anonymousreply 39December 5, 2021 11:54 AM

r20

Joshua's friend Jack Dylan Grazer came out as bi.

by Anonymousreply 40December 5, 2021 11:56 AM

Dissociation has been debunked? When?

by Anonymousreply 41December 5, 2021 11:59 AM

Grazer has been accused of being an abusive boyfriend, so...

by Anonymousreply 42December 5, 2021 11:59 AM

r41

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by Anonymousreply 43December 5, 2021 12:04 PM

Oh. That's not the same thing as disassociative amnesia.

by Anonymousreply 44December 5, 2021 12:05 PM

r44

How do you differentiate between the two?

by Anonymousreply 45December 5, 2021 12:09 PM

[quote]Is he gonna be the next Shawn Mendes?

Shawn has reached menopause and is due for a replacement.

by Anonymousreply 46December 5, 2021 12:10 PM

Hm, looks like the difference is mainly just marketing

[quote] In part because of the intense controversies that arose surrounding the concepts of repressed and recovered memories, many clinical psychologists stopped using those terms and instead adopted the term dissociative amnesia to refer to the purported processes whereby memories for traumatic events become inaccessible [...] The change in terminology, however, has not made belief in the phenomenon any less problematic according to experts in the field of memory.

by Anonymousreply 47December 5, 2021 12:12 PM

[quote]Is he gonna be the next Shawn Mendes?

I'm better than that!

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by Anonymousreply 48December 5, 2021 12:17 PM

That's so horrible. Abuse can be buried or sometimes you just have to come to terms with it in a way to be able to acknowledge it for what it was. Sometimes you are unsure if it actually happened. I hope he has a great therapist but brave to bring it up. Especially as he is so young.

by Anonymousreply 49December 5, 2021 12:29 PM

Is there anyone in the entertainment industry who hasn't been molested?

by Anonymousreply 50December 5, 2021 12:35 PM

Mason Reece.

by Anonymousreply 51December 5, 2021 12:37 PM

This is why so many men of all sexualities are so damaged. Like Chris Brown. Sexual abuse against young boys isn’t taken seriously and in many cases they’re manipulated to believe it’s a good thing by others, not just the abuser.

by Anonymousreply 52December 5, 2021 12:43 PM

[quote] I experienced sexual abuse a lot in my childhood,” he said while tearing up in the interview. I didn’t remember that until last year, which is pretty insane. I buried it so far. And when I was a teen, a much older man routinely abused me, and I wasn’t able to see it for what it was at the time,” he continued.

r36 He remembered the sex as a teenager no problem. Its the stuff that happened to him a as kid he's forgotten. Which quite frankly yeah you can forget stuff from when you're young pretty easily. As for the sex as a teenager being abuse it depends how old he was, whether he felt pressured into it. Which given his jobs an actor with all the scumbags in that profession and was involved in Christian groups because his parents are nutjobs yeah it probably was.

by Anonymousreply 53December 5, 2021 12:49 PM

He was homeschooled.

by Anonymousreply 54December 5, 2021 12:51 PM

I don't know, everything about his coming out seemed forced and calculated. Maybe it was the Driver's license effect, but it seemed very fake

by Anonymousreply 55December 5, 2021 12:52 PM

I think he's attempting to capitalize on events but doesn't every celebrity do that?

by Anonymousreply 56December 5, 2021 12:53 PM

That Grazer was clearly sexually abused as well. He was still a minor when he was sexualized in We Are Who We Are. His penis was flashed. How is that even legal?

by Anonymousreply 57December 5, 2021 12:54 PM

Body double?

by Anonymousreply 58December 5, 2021 12:59 PM

R57 Well, he was already famour before We are who we are, and i still remember criticism for not casting a gay actor for that role. If he suffered abuse i doubt it was there

by Anonymousreply 59December 5, 2021 1:04 PM

[quote] Is there anyone in the entertainment industry who hasn't been molested?

I was molested.

by Anonymousreply 60December 5, 2021 1:08 PM

Most of the time, a “straight” actor who takes, or asks for, a gay role is not actually straight.

Lucas Grabeel is still pretending to be straight LOL!

by Anonymousreply 61December 5, 2021 1:09 PM

Dealing with sexual abuse trauma is very difficult and complicated. Sexual abuse victims respond differently to treatments depending on how they've been groomed, how much they trusted their abuser, how much support they got when they reported it themselves, how responsible they feel for the sexual abuse (aka falsely blaming themselves), how long it takes for them to realize that what happened was actual abuse, how long they felt alone and abandoned with this issue, etc.

by Anonymousreply 62December 5, 2021 1:10 PM

Cute, artistic, and damaged? Just my type.

by Anonymousreply 63December 5, 2021 1:14 PM

r63 BRYAN NO!!!!

by Anonymousreply 64December 5, 2021 1:46 PM

Jack Grazer was abused? I am not saying it cannot happen but surely his powerful family working on entertainment would have protected him? I don't think he flashed anything in WAWWA either. That would have been illegal as he was 17. Tbh I didn't feel like he was sexualised on that. He played a character that was sexually confused

by Anonymousreply 65December 5, 2021 2:27 PM

Even though Olivia Rodrigo made that album about him and he made one about her, they are still close friends without benefits.

by Anonymousreply 66December 5, 2021 2:32 PM

He says she has cut off all contact since Drivers License dropped.

by Anonymousreply 67December 5, 2021 2:36 PM

R45, a repressed memory is like, “I know I was molested, I’m sure I was molested, but I can’t remember it! I’ve blocked the memory out.”

I once had a roommate who didn’t get along with her stepfather. She told me she had started having recurring dreams about him coming into her bedroom as a child and sexually abusing her. After having those dreams, she accused him of sexually abusing her as a child. But when I asked her exactly what he did, she said, “I don’t know, I’m not sure I even want to remember.” Her relationship with her mom and stepfather was strained as a result of this.

But… she turned out to have a dishonest side to her. I would pay her money for my share of the utilities, then she wouldn’t pay the utility bills. And one time, she stole my identity and opened up a cellphone account in my name.

Now when I look at her Facebook, I see that she’s cool with her family again, even her stepfather. She’s taking photos with him, wishing him Happy Father’s Day, calling him the best dad ever.

by Anonymousreply 68December 5, 2021 4:26 PM

More like Olivia Rodrigo's team of writers made that album about him and they played along because of contractual obligations. Hence why there's no hard feelings.

by Anonymousreply 69December 5, 2021 5:29 PM

R69 I mean he just did a full article about he his life was shit for a year due to it how he thinks she essentially threw him under a bus, and how they haven't spoken since. So I'd say there's at least a few hard feelings.

by Anonymousreply 70December 5, 2021 5:33 PM

Sorry but the whole Drivers license controversy seemed fabricated. They were dating, and i'm sorry but i don't think they were really dating but pr dating because that's what Disney usually does with their main actors, then she decided go all Taylor Swift (who is her idol) and imply the song is about his ex, and all the crap started.

And of course he made those comments about Harry Styles just after that. I'm pretty sure he wanted to backtrack but he talked about his coming out in them so it would look really bad, so he came out as something, Lucas Hedges style, so he basically can date whoever he wants (and he will want a girl and probably he won't be see with a guy unless his career flopped big time)

by Anonymousreply 71December 5, 2021 6:15 PM

I don't think it was the same as Lucas Hedges, who likely has gender issues.

by Anonymousreply 72December 5, 2021 6:19 PM

If he wants to live openly he needs to ditch Disney and go the indie rock or electronic route. He's conventionally goodlooking and seems to have non stereotypical taste in music. He can attract a sizeable fanbase of guys and girls of all orientations if he's talented and musically diverse. Even if he tries to do the bearding thing a la Mendes, I don't see him being a big star regardless. He doesn't seem as attention hungry and shallow as Shawn is.

by Anonymousreply 73December 5, 2021 6:28 PM

Eh, no. He needs to ride HSM until the wheels fall off. Trust me.

by Anonymousreply 74December 5, 2021 6:32 PM

I was a middle schooler when the first HSM came out and I thought it was stupid. I only watched because of Zac Efron and Corbin Bleu who were fine as hell. The plot was dumb and predictable and none of the leads could sing. Yet it ended up becoming a huge marketing sensation with sequels and the first album a best seller. I guess to Gen Z, this is like Grease. They see Britney as Madonna and Spice Girls as Supremes.

by Anonymousreply 75December 5, 2021 6:45 PM

Except Zac will probably go the way of Kenickie.

by Anonymousreply 76December 5, 2021 6:46 PM

R72 Frankly i doubt Hedges has any gender issue (apart of being experimental with clothes sometimes) but the similaties were about saying a lot of things to not say anything at all. Both come out, but came out as nothing at all

by Anonymousreply 77December 5, 2021 7:10 PM

Disney is just a shitty company. Parents who actually care about their children wouldn't let them be a Disney star. If they care about the kid's acting career being a serious one and want them to learn the craft. They would have them stick to theatre or try to get them roles in an indie movie. Once you're a Disney star you're associated with Disney your whole life. It's a curse honestly and I cringe when I see former Disney kids still profiting off of nostalgia.

by Anonymousreply 78December 5, 2021 8:00 PM

R69 They have definitely dating for real and had a messy break up. It’s well documented on TikTok but I guess some of you are just too old for that but then don’t make ignorant remarks. And they are not on good terms anymore, they are not on speaking terms.

R46 Shawn is well over his visual peak and has a horse face by now. Not to mention that Joshua is prettier and cuter than Shawn ever was. They are both pretty tall btw.

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by Anonymousreply 79December 5, 2021 8:51 PM

Did he play Lopez’s son in Maid in Manhattan? Did Fiennes diddle?

by Anonymousreply 80December 5, 2021 9:19 PM

Also another downside to being famous as a teenager. All your teenage immaturity is documented and broadcasted to the world. You can't live it down and will always be reminded of it. Like people forget how young Britney, Timberlake, Bieber, Rihanna, Lohan, etc were when they got famous. They acted like any normal teenager but the difference is their youthful stupidity was shown to the whole world to laugh and mock at. It's weird also that grown ass adults were showing the personal lives of these teen stars and making tabloid fodder of them. If Olivia Rodrigo and Joshua Bassett dated for real (though I doubt it as they are manufactured and work for one of the most evil corporations on Earth), and it was the subject of a breakup albums. I'm sure once they reach their later 20s both look back and cringe on this behavior. I still don't care either way, I'm more concerned with the attractiveness of Joshua as he's part of our team. Olivia chick can go to hell.

by Anonymousreply 81December 5, 2021 9:37 PM

R78 Not true at all. Where have you been the last 15 years. Disney is a star-making machine and their minions are here to stay:

Ariana Grande

Miley Cyrus

Selena Gomes

Demi Lovato

Olivia Rodrigo

Zac Efron and many more.

by Anonymousreply 82December 6, 2021 12:45 AM

Transition from Disney is easy. Ariana Grande sings slut songs (like the one below )now and nobody bothers that her target group used to be teen girls.

Can you stay up all night? Fuck me 'til the daylight 34, 35 (yeah, yeah, yeah, yеah) Can you stay up all night? (All night) Fuck me 'til the daylight 34, 35 (yеah, yeah, yeah, yeah)

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by Anonymousreply 83December 6, 2021 12:48 AM

Disney stars are free to do whatever they want afterwards. But I think the high risk for SA is a huge disadvantage.

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by Anonymousreply 84December 6, 2021 12:51 AM

Is it really abuse? These kids love attention

by Anonymousreply 85December 6, 2021 12:59 AM

Joshua seems to have no qualms sexualizing himself for his audience. Maybe because he was used to please his abuser. I exspect more slutty photoshoots in the future and him going further than Shawn Mendes.

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by Anonymousreply 86December 6, 2021 6:55 AM

You could dial down the disgusting, r86.

by Anonymousreply 87December 6, 2021 6:57 AM

Ariana Grande never was a Disney star

by Anonymousreply 88December 6, 2021 10:45 AM

Disney and Nickelodeon live-action shows are basically the same thing, same demographic and just the same amount of perverts working there.

by Anonymousreply 89December 6, 2021 10:48 AM

I think Olivia truly believed Joshua was the love of her life and was so much more into him that she became delusional and stalkerish about it when Joshua probably thought, eh this girl is underage and not my type, Im just gonna go along with what Disney tells me to do.

by Anonymousreply 90December 6, 2021 10:58 AM

R90 I think most guys who are unsure of their sexuality or lean towards gay will go for low hanging fruits. Olivia was too young and not nearly as famous as Sabrina. Why bother with her?

And I doubt Olivia loved him all that much. Josh's song 'Secret' implies that she cheated. And she was willing to throw him under the bus for $$$. But (over-)dramatic break up songs sell well and it's easy to build a narrative around them, just ask Adele...

by Anonymousreply 91December 6, 2021 2:12 PM

Most couldn't pick an Adele paramour out of a line up.

by Anonymousreply 92December 6, 2021 2:53 PM

[quote]Precocious boys can be very sexual and seek out male attention

[bold]OP outs himself as a child predator in one short post.[/bold]

I've heard many a child perv say that the child was "flirting" with them. Here's a hint, OP. If a child "flirts" with you, don't touch them because, one, they're not actually flirting and, two, it's a child.

by Anonymousreply 93December 6, 2021 3:32 PM

Children cannot consent to sex. It's true though that children have a primitive concept of sexuality and attraction. But with other kids. Playing doctor, kissing games and all that. But they are too young to understand sex and aren't physically developed. Adults have no business exploiting a small child and messing with their mental health for sick kicks. Predators always try to blame the victim. Kids have crushes on adults but that doesn't mean it's okay for the adult in question to reciprocate. That's sick.

by Anonymousreply 94December 6, 2021 3:50 PM

The thing is that children do have questions about sex. Predators claim children are begging to have sex with them by asking question about sex. And that is the fucked up "you were asking for it!" accusation that fucks with children's minds.

by Anonymousreply 95December 6, 2021 4:42 PM

Back to Joshua and stop with the pedo stuff.

Here’s a video where Joshua is at his visual peak so far imo. He does not look too young when styled this way. The singing is a bit rough but he looks like a snack. All he needs are better songs and better producers, then he can send Shawn packing.

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by Anonymousreply 96December 6, 2021 4:51 PM

I don't see the Mendes comparison.

by Anonymousreply 97December 6, 2021 4:53 PM

R97 They are both young, conventionally good-looking, tall, dark, non-threatening white boys with moderate singing and songwriting talent. These are the ingredients for what they call a ‘main pop boy’. And both are queer in all likeliness.

by Anonymousreply 98December 6, 2021 4:59 PM

Bassett is already in his twenties. And it's clear that the label aren't really investing in him. Shawn grew quite a following at a much younger age.

by Anonymousreply 99December 6, 2021 5:02 PM

R99 True, but Joshua is still growing and improving while Shawn is well over the hill. His maturing might be a bit delayed because of the SA. Joshua still has potential and will likely keep his looks for 10 years at least while Shawn is haggard already. Joshua has come out already and is free while the other has become a running joke. Gen Z might embrace Josh’s queerness. But Josh needs better material NOW. I hope the gets more investments. So far he hasn’t released anything that sounds relevant and radio-friendly. Say what you want, but Shawn has lots of very catchy and rhythmic songs and his voice is weak but very recognizable…..

by Anonymousreply 100December 6, 2021 5:13 PM

Joshua has already talked about the bald spot he's inherited from his father.

by Anonymousreply 101December 6, 2021 5:19 PM

WHO?

by Anonymousreply 102December 6, 2021 5:52 PM

Joshua has an acting career and that's a big difference. Yes, some people go for music like Ariana or Miley but others end focusing on acting like Zendaya.

Without the acting career his music career will be in a very bad spot, but he is working so he can get another oportunity on music in a near future.

Shawn on the other hand had a big music career, but right now he is on the verge of tanking

by Anonymousreply 103December 6, 2021 5:58 PM

I don’t think Joshua’s age is such a huge deal breaker because he does seem a couple of years younger than his real age. Like two years ago at 19 he looked way too young and had zero sex appeal. His mainstream appeal is on the rise as he matures. Btw, he claims that he had an eating disorder at the time this interview was filmed, lol.

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by Anonymousreply 104December 6, 2021 6:17 PM

I have no idea who this person is.

Should I?

by Anonymousreply 105December 6, 2021 6:18 PM

R105 Easy. If you find this attractive, you can stay. Otherwise you must go.

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by Anonymousreply 106December 6, 2021 6:20 PM

Thanks, R106.

Bye!

by Anonymousreply 107December 6, 2021 6:21 PM

R105 Me neither until this thread and the first I noticed was how attractive he was. Im 28, so way past the age for Disney TV shows and I don't use TikTok much. I did not know Olivia Rodrigo either until Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 108December 6, 2021 6:22 PM

[Quote] he claims that he had an eating disorder at the time this interview was filmed, lol

Jesus Christ! Keep an angle for promoting your first album, Josh!

by Anonymousreply 109December 6, 2021 6:26 PM

I haven't seen the TV spin off of HSM (or the original movies). Did the second series underperform? I'm wondering how many seasons it will likely run. I would guess: No more than four.

by Anonymousreply 110December 6, 2021 6:28 PM

R109 "I've never actually spoken about this before," the 'Lie Lie Lie' singer tells us. "I have struggled with body image issues and some serious problems, around the time when High School Musical... started airing [in 2019].

"I was constantly worrying about how I looked and taking certain actions to keep myself at a certain weight and physique, and it got really unhealthy."

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by Anonymousreply 111December 6, 2021 7:02 PM

I think the behind the scenes' drama (Olivia and Joshua not on speaking terms) will keep the viewers interested in the HSM Disney show.

by Anonymousreply 112December 6, 2021 7:03 PM

I dont believe the " i buried it so deep" i call BS on his story

by Anonymousreply 113December 6, 2021 7:08 PM

High School Musical: The Musical: The Series is the new Glee. The kids love it. It even has gay characters who are in a relationship. Pretty "edgy" for Disney.

BTW, another actor of the show came out as bisexual. Larry Saperstein. But all the LGBTQ attention is on the lead, Joshua Bassett and he gets the cover for coming out as a member (not specifying what) of the LGBTQ Community. Neither Larry Saperstein, openly gay Frankie A. Rodriguez, nor Julia Lester who came out as pansexual got that much attention.

by Anonymousreply 114December 6, 2021 7:17 PM

[quote] When he’s not working on this new body of work, he’s been journaling, crying almost daily (“it’s great”), and in therapy twice a week.

[quote] He's open about feeling messy, unpredictable, and nonlinear: "I went to Spain with a couple of friends. There was one night in particular. I finally let go... I scream-cried for three and a half hours to the point where I lost my voice for two weeks," he says.

What an attention whore.

And a pretentious fucking mess.

No wonder he's single.

This guy is a massive head case. Steer clear of him.

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by Anonymousreply 115December 6, 2021 7:51 PM

That guy has so many issues, and he's, what, early 20s? I'm almost jealous how much baggage he has already. I think he's gonna join the Forever 27 Club.

by Anonymousreply 116December 6, 2021 7:56 PM

I guess he will save "I was abducted by an alien ... and then it RAPED me (with an anal probe)!" for later.

by Anonymousreply 117December 6, 2021 8:00 PM

I don't think his issues are unique for his situation. A lot of young gays are preyed on by older men especially the ones who are more effeminate. He apparently comes from a conservative Christian family which would make matters worse. Evangelical environments are filled with predators just as the entertainment industry is too. Evangelical kids are sheltered, kept ignorant and told to trust all the adults in authority. It's completely believable that as sheltered Christian theatre kid he was groomed and abused and was told pedo stuff like it "we're just playing but keep it a secret between us."

If he's mentally ill. It's good he is opening up at least and processing his past and he's probably getting treatment. It's better to start early then go down the drug and alcohol rabbithole.

by Anonymousreply 118December 6, 2021 8:07 PM

[quote] I scream-cried for three and a half hours to the point where I lost my voice for two weeks

I've never done that in my entire life.

It's for attention whores.

by Anonymousreply 119December 6, 2021 8:15 PM

His current posturing reminds me of Corey Fogelmanis. I think he’s mentioned a bit of scream-crying during his journey of self-discovery.

by Anonymousreply 120December 6, 2021 8:20 PM

I feel this interview will turn off the fangirls. As he does seem unstable and while young women like sensitive men they still like them to have stability and cockiness to them. Maybe he did it on purpose so he can be gay in peace.

by Anonymousreply 121December 6, 2021 8:28 PM

R115 DUH, the SA ruined him…..

by Anonymousreply 122December 6, 2021 8:29 PM

R121 No, Gen Z loves ~uniqueness~, ~undefined ID~ and ~multiple realities~, Boomer.

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by Anonymousreply 123December 6, 2021 8:35 PM

R121 He is definitely a bit of a drama queen. Here he almost tears up at the question ‘How have you been recently?’ (at 19:28). The interviewer looked disgusted as she wanted to end the interview with on ‘sweet and personal’ question. He is damaged good, lol….

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by Anonymousreply 124December 6, 2021 9:00 PM

I'm a millennial and I have younger siblings and relatives who are Gen Z and many coworkers who are Gen Z. I can tell you there is nothing special or unique about them. They are just regular kids, no more enlightened than any previous generations. Teens are basically the same no what time period. This fetishization of Gen Z being more "socially conscious" is a media fabrication at best. Most I've met are your typical self-absorbed teens, no different from teens when I was a teen in the 2000s. Concerned about making money, looks, dating, pop stars, music and complaining about their parents. Being "unique" is something teens have always aspired to.

by Anonymousreply 125December 6, 2021 10:24 PM

What the hell is the SA?

Google brings up Hitler and the holocaust

by Anonymousreply 126December 6, 2021 10:46 PM

Those pictures of him as a kid are adorable.

But at r79?

Those are some sociopath eyes.

by Anonymousreply 127December 6, 2021 10:48 PM

R104 Maybe he's become the next Penn Badgely who is mainly an actor but does his music on the side. Both even have similar black curly hair and dark eyes.

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by Anonymousreply 128December 6, 2021 11:16 PM

[quote] What the hell is the SA?

I think it's the abbreviation idiot troll's way of saying Sexual Assault.

Because that lazy, stupid cunt is too dumb to type out the two words.

by Anonymousreply 129December 6, 2021 11:21 PM

R126 I assume it means sexual abuse. Because kids only get molested in Hollywood, never... at school, at sports, at home, at church, etc etc etc etc etc etc

by Anonymousreply 130December 7, 2021 12:25 AM

THANK you, R129.

by Anonymousreply 131December 7, 2021 1:01 AM

R121 Come on, Shawn Mendes Rolling Stone interview is way worse than that and the fangirls loved it (of course the rest of the people hated that interview).

Joshua is showing a vulnerable side (yes, with drama queen tendencies) but at least he has reasons for those reactions

by Anonymousreply 132December 7, 2021 6:02 PM

I can see fangirls being delighted at the molestation revelation. "He's not into guys, his molester made him confused."

by Anonymousreply 133December 7, 2021 6:07 PM

r133

Hm, I don't think you've seen any fangirls in the last 10 years.

by Anonymousreply 134December 7, 2021 6:19 PM

I am appalled by some of the responses on this thread. No wonder there are people who disagree with gay adoption. Some of you are pederasts.

by Anonymousreply 135December 7, 2021 6:22 PM

[Quote] Hm, I don't think you've seen any fangirls in the last 10 years.

Oh, please. Did you see the defense of Shaw Mendes? Fangirls are motivated by their own selfish desires, much like DLers. They'll use talking points to confirm what they want to believe.

by Anonymousreply 136December 7, 2021 6:29 PM

Shawn reads as a spoiled brat with an entitled attitude. His anxiety is from not being in control over everything. He came across as narcissistic. For any intelligent person, that would be a turnoff.

by Anonymousreply 137December 7, 2021 6:29 PM

But fangirls didn't call him to the carpet over his "night sweats" revelation. They chided anyone for criticising him over it, all in the name of giving Shawn "space" (to be straight or "straight").

by Anonymousreply 138December 7, 2021 6:32 PM

R130 What are you taking about? It was steady mentioned that he was homeschooled, did theatre from a young age and his parents a Christian fundies. So many high risk environments for SA….

by Anonymousreply 139December 7, 2021 9:23 PM

R139 I was being sarcastic, dear heart. Everyone talks about how "Hollywood is so dangerous" when kids get molested every day by alldifferent kinds of authority figures.

by Anonymousreply 140December 7, 2021 9:50 PM

R140 That's true. The difference is regular people are ignored while former child stars have the media spotlight. In fact most of the child stars came from already abusive homes. Hollywood didn't "ruin" them. Narcissistic greedy parents who are willing to pimp their kid out ruined them. Especially if they come from poor, trashy environments. Joshua makes it even clear that the abuse occurred when he was young before he was even famous. In a country like The US with a pitiful healthcare system and income inequality. Poor people who have no future in academics and are blessed with physical prowess or good looks will use sports, the military, modeling, music or acting as a way to escape their environment. Hence why it seems there's so many mentally unstable people in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 141December 7, 2021 10:32 PM

If he’s a survivor, then he should cover Destiny’s Child!

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by Anonymousreply 142December 8, 2021 5:56 AM

There's not even a modicum of wit in r142's reply.

by Anonymousreply 143December 8, 2021 7:32 AM

So the SA startet at 5….

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by Anonymousreply 144December 8, 2021 7:34 PM

I checked out his IG. The stories he posted show the backlash he's getting from girls over his child sexual abuse story. They are surprisingly unsympathetic and claim "men can't get raped".

I wonder if Disney is fuming over him confessing this. Since they have a brand to protect.

by Anonymousreply 145December 8, 2021 7:45 PM

That screencap should include his IG icon + handle, for clarity's sake.

by Anonymousreply 146December 8, 2021 8:16 PM

he's letting it out now

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by Anonymousreply 147December 8, 2021 8:21 PM

He shouldn't be giving these comments the time of day. If he wants to say more, he should write a piece about it. (And I bet that "put on a dress" troll is using some random woman's picture for their avatar.)

by Anonymousreply 148December 8, 2021 8:30 PM

R147 Kind of immature and cheap from him. He will never make it big with that attitude, lol. Like which successful celebrities have the time to read the comments under Tweets from a tabloid and even call out negative comments from some nobodies? And these people said MEN cannot be raped which does not really apply to his situation as he was just a boy….

by Anonymousreply 149December 8, 2021 8:50 PM

He forgot about the SA all these years only to now remember exactly all the details and fight off people who question his trauma???

by Anonymousreply 150December 8, 2021 8:52 PM

Aw! Thats depressing.

by Anonymousreply 151December 8, 2021 8:53 PM

"Precocious boys can be very sexual and seek out male attention."

He was 5 years old OP. Go fuck yourself off a cliff.

by Anonymousreply 152December 8, 2021 8:54 PM

[Quote] Like which successful celebrities have the time to read the comments under Tweets from a tabloid and even call out negative comments from some nobodies?

Cardi B?

by Anonymousreply 153December 8, 2021 8:56 PM

So horny DL eldergays think young men can't be raped because they secretly want it, and twitter fangirls think men can't be raped because... Feminism? Most unexpected teamup since the Republican's and Russia.

by Anonymousreply 154December 8, 2021 9:00 PM

r150 He's always remembered the teenage stuff. He's talking about early childhood abuse starting at 5.

by Anonymousreply 155December 8, 2021 9:06 PM

The idea of 'False Memory Syndrome' was invented by Ralph Underwager and Hollida Wakefield. Two peodphile advocates who made a fortune defending Catholic Priests in court with flawed studies. Dissociative and traumatic amnesia, on the other hand, are looking more and more likely to be real.

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by Anonymousreply 156December 8, 2021 9:06 PM

r148 Responding naturally (when it doesn't seem forced or exploitative) is good PR for the songs he has out now.

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by Anonymousreply 157December 8, 2021 9:17 PM

r148

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by Anonymousreply 158December 8, 2021 9:19 PM

R147 But I kind of love the white scribble he made to highlight and delete some infos. Seems quite manic and mad, lol.

by Anonymousreply 159December 8, 2021 10:12 PM

This is quite clearly a troll account:

[Quote] 28 X s worded tr0ll | mixed-afro latasian blindian Flag of Bolivia| political activist Flag of United States| dyslexic, ATEdhd, ableist, transracial Raised fist Raised fist Raised fist | #AllLivesMatter | #BLM | ifb

by Anonymousreply 160December 8, 2021 10:16 PM

A Lana Del Rey avatar... and the first lol response features a Selena Gomez avatar... Therese are just gay boy "Big Pop Girl" fans. They're probably Olivia Rodgigo stans.

by Anonymousreply 161December 8, 2021 10:18 PM

He's allowed to be angry that his idiot fans are invalidating his experience of being sexually abused as a young child. Of course anyone would be offended at that type of ignorance. I respect him a hell out more for not tolerating this. He's only 20, so why would it be expected to not take such things personally especially when it clear he suffers from mental health problems thanks to being molested, being the target of cyberbullying because of a dumb song and having all the pressure of being a Disney star. Is he supposed to smile and hold it in and have a mental drug-fueled breakdown like every other damaged star. Letting out his anger is more healthy that repressing it.

by Anonymousreply 162December 8, 2021 10:21 PM

*than

by Anonymousreply 163December 8, 2021 10:22 PM

Oh, please. He's searching his name on Twitter. That's ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 164December 8, 2021 10:23 PM

R164 yeah, a celebrity putting out something deeply personal like that...you need to stay offline for at least 72 hours. No matter what it is, you're gonna see some dumb/cruel takes

by Anonymousreply 165December 8, 2021 10:31 PM

Manic? Nope, just a human being who shows his emotions. He's angry at ignorant statements on a sensitive topic such as that. Like basically anyone else would be. I know you probably expect every celebrity to be a robot with a PR statement on hand. But I understand why those comments would trigger that reaction from him and he's completely justified.

by Anonymousreply 166December 8, 2021 10:32 PM

R166 he's justified in being upset but he also grew up online. He knows stuff like this brings out trolls and should've stayed away from his phone for a few days

by Anonymousreply 167December 8, 2021 10:43 PM

R166 Please, as R164 and R165 pointed out he did this for PR and clout. There are always haters and morons, any celebrity could fight back at those but most choose not to….And it’s not like he isn’t used to getting hate from Olivia‘s fans or Swifties….

by Anonymousreply 168December 8, 2021 10:44 PM

He's still going. Seems genuine. A corporate PR team would've stopped or used more stilted language by now.

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by Anonymousreply 169December 8, 2021 10:48 PM

The question is will he go down the Shia and Lindsay path? I strongly believe Disney is pissed off about this and probably will replace him because of their "wholesome" image. Imagine if Zac Efron said this during the height of High School Musical. I still remember that controversy over Vanessa Hudgens' nudes and everyone thought Disney would can her. Disney despite its image is still a conservative company that prioritizes maximum profit. These stars are easily replaceable numbers to them.

by Anonymousreply 170December 8, 2021 10:50 PM

Can someone please explain to me how Cameron Kasky and Olivia Rodrigo became friends?

by Anonymousreply 171December 8, 2021 10:53 PM

Ouch. I guess this is what the real trolls would do. Dm him on IG: ’Alyna Said what she said. You’re a real loser bitch for spreading your legs and letting your shit get hammered like a streetside slut. Yeah you’re such a whore’ 10 likes as of now….

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by Anonymousreply 172December 8, 2021 10:54 PM

r170 Its a show on a streaming app in 2021 the comparison to Zac Efron in 2006 is pretty pointless. They'd probably be shitting themselves if he was in the MCU though. Which is a shame as I did actually want him to play Wiccan.

by Anonymousreply 173December 8, 2021 10:55 PM

Uh, most artists, not influencers, these days are told by management to stay off social media unless they have something to promote, and leave routine "engagement" updates to their PR team, or set up a schedule, in order to preserve their mental health, esp on the more toxic platforms like twitter. It's almost impossible to escape though because concerned family, friends, acquaintances will send them news.

by Anonymousreply 174December 8, 2021 10:59 PM

R170 His show is for Gen Z. They are very different than Millenials. Almost all of the young cast of his show is queer. Only Olivia Rodrigo and Matt Cornett are straight. But Olivia had a boob job at 18 and Matt had his nudes leaked.

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by Anonymousreply 175December 8, 2021 11:01 PM

Still Hollywood in general will likely avoid casting him in any blockbuster type of movie. Celebrities have to be boring robots who smile endlessly while following a script by PR. He is breaking that and showing his mental instability, so studios will avoid him. I wonder if he was pushed into acting by his parents? Maybe he doesn't want to do it anymore and is fed up playing the game. I'm interested in what will happen next.

by Anonymousreply 176December 8, 2021 11:01 PM

r175 That is some intense manscaping.

by Anonymousreply 177December 8, 2021 11:04 PM

Stop with this Gen Z bullshit being more "queer". I'm millennial and gays were on TV in the 2000s and we had indie and rock musicians were openly bisexual. Hollywood celebrities and rappers were closeted then and still are today. The difference is Gen Z uses "queer" as a way of screaming "I'm different" while millennials were "I don't like to label myself". When these cast members say "I'm gay, bisexual, pan or lesbian" and introduce their partners then we'll see.

by Anonymousreply 178December 8, 2021 11:08 PM

R178 Please, this is a first and Gen Z is in many ways more radical and opportunistic than previous generations.

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by Anonymousreply 179December 8, 2021 11:13 PM

Smiling robots like Robert Downey Jr? Or Jeremy Renner? Or Brie Larson?

by Anonymousreply 180December 8, 2021 11:16 PM

[Quote] we had indie and rock musicians were openly bisexual.

Women? And men who were never seen with other men (like Billie Joe Armstrong)?

by Anonymousreply 181December 8, 2021 11:17 PM

[Quote] When these cast members say "I'm gay, bisexual, pan or lesbian" and introduce their partners then we'll see.

Two of the cast members are dating, you dolt. (Joe and Frankie, fyi.)

by Anonymousreply 182December 8, 2021 11:18 PM

Cornett plays a teenager so the shaved look isn't surprising.

by Anonymousreply 183December 8, 2021 11:19 PM

[Quote] Still Hollywood in general will likely avoid casting him in any blockbuster type of movie. Celebrities have to be boring robots who smile endlessly while following a script by PR. He is breaking that and showing his mental instability, so studios will avoid him. I wonder if he was pushed into acting by his parents? Maybe he doesn't want to do it anymore and is fed up playing the game. I'm interested in what will happen next.

You're making him sound like Aaron Carter. None of what he has said reflects badly on him.

by Anonymousreply 184December 8, 2021 11:20 PM

R178 Millenials would have never let Lil Nas X become an international superstar, Gen Z did.

by Anonymousreply 185December 8, 2021 11:20 PM

But some of the reactions Joshua gets are just sick and insane. I wonder where this deep hatred comes from. He should really log off social media for a while…..

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by Anonymousreply 186December 8, 2021 11:22 PM

r183 Does that mean EJ is getting his dick out next season? At least Josh has one thing to look forward to.

by Anonymousreply 187December 8, 2021 11:24 PM

Neurodivergent? Someone is going to type about Fibro next... Tell the truth, some of you are typing these comments on your burner IG accounts.

by Anonymousreply 188December 8, 2021 11:25 PM

The backlash, lol.

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by Anonymousreply 189December 8, 2021 11:25 PM

I hope he doesn’t cry himself to sleep tonight….

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by Anonymousreply 190December 8, 2021 11:28 PM

That account was only created in October. And the pronouns are xe/they... This is totally a DLer having fun.

by Anonymousreply 191December 8, 2021 11:28 PM

What does KYS mean?

by Anonymousreply 192December 8, 2021 11:28 PM

Eh...

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by Anonymousreply 193December 8, 2021 11:29 PM

r192 "kill yourself" a way for twitter trolls to type it while evading twitter's censors

by Anonymousreply 194December 8, 2021 11:32 PM

I do hope Mohamedscock gets doxed. An alliance of Joshua Bassett fangirls, and ISIS hunting down what's probably a 16 year old twitter troll sounds like the natural conclusion to the Drivers License saga.

by Anonymousreply 195December 8, 2021 11:33 PM

Once he finds a nice boyfriend and quits Phoneywood. He'll be happier. Rodrigo seems borderline from what this thread has taught me. A straight girl obsessed with a gay boy is a tale as old as time.

by Anonymousreply 196December 8, 2021 11:36 PM

R193 LOL

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by Anonymousreply 197December 8, 2021 11:39 PM

Olivia is a Taylor Swift obsessive, so the boyfriend character assassination is par for the course.

by Anonymousreply 198December 8, 2021 11:39 PM

Hmmm.

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by Anonymousreply 199December 8, 2021 11:42 PM

Ok. This was funny.

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by Anonymousreply 200December 8, 2021 11:45 PM

R196 I think if Joshua comes out as full on gay instead of ‘unlabeled’, he will be fully embraced and celebrated in the gay community. He’ll have so much more fun, support and love ;-)

I think Olivia will want to have a ‘reconciliation’ with him soon because her ‘sour’ aka lonely sad girl era is about to end. The ‘woe me’ saga can only carry her so far. I think her next era will be ‘spiced’ aka slutty. She didn’t get a boob job at 18 for nothing.

by Anonymousreply 201December 8, 2021 11:48 PM

[quote] Can someone please explain to me how Cameron Kasky and Olivia Rodrigo became friends?

Kasky is a starfucker (which is kinda gross when you consider what his own claim to fame is).

by Anonymousreply 202December 8, 2021 11:59 PM

On at her note: I wonder if Joshua is dating Tommy Flanag4n. They hang out a lot.

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by Anonymousreply 203December 9, 2021 12:16 AM

This poor kid should quit after his contract is up or just break it and pay whatever dues. He seems fragile and on the verge of a breakdown especially if he can't break the social media addiction. It's painfully clear he was pushed by Evangelical stage parents who didn't care he was being diddled with as long as the money is rolling in. He's grown now, so hopefully he will take the money and run while he can. I doubt the Rodrigo girl will leave, she'll be like Ariana, Demi or Miley, drugged up and still making money off of music and attention-whoring. The female Disney stars stick around much longer. I doubt Joshua will get the Hollywood push that Shia, Lindsay or Zac got and he'd probably go even crazier if he did.

by Anonymousreply 204December 9, 2021 12:16 AM

Tommy F is 100% gay and I think he has a crush on Joshua at least.

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by Anonymousreply 205December 9, 2021 12:18 AM

I don't think he would be Josh's type.

by Anonymousreply 206December 9, 2021 12:20 AM

[Quote] He seems fragile and on the verge of a breakdown

Are you kidding? All his revelations have been tied to one of his music releases.

by Anonymousreply 207December 9, 2021 12:21 AM

R206 What is Josh’s type? Older and dominant?

by Anonymousreply 208December 9, 2021 12:21 AM

I wonder if Josh has ever actually had sex with a girl yet? There’s something about him that seems still innocent. Obviously, he’s been with his male abuser as a teenager and it sounds like at the time, he didn’t consider it abuse.

And R206, we know Josh’s type is Harry Styles.

by Anonymousreply 209December 9, 2021 12:22 AM

[Quote] What is Josh’s type?

I think he'd do Matt Cornett in a heartbeat.

by Anonymousreply 210December 9, 2021 12:24 AM

r208 Harry Styles and Matt Cornett so far. So definitely into twinks.

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by Anonymousreply 211December 9, 2021 12:26 AM

Seems less "twink" more into guys around his own age. Harry is older than him in fact. I don't think every young gay guy is desperate for old dick unless that older man is particularly sexy. I'm mostly into guys my age or slightly older or younger.

by Anonymousreply 212December 9, 2021 12:31 AM

R209 He definitely had sex with Sabrina Carpenter and it was good as she brags in her song ‘Skin’ to Olivia: You can try To get under my, under my, under my skin While he's on mine Yeah, all on my, all on my, all on my skin

The IG post below looks like a after sex selfie, especially because of it’s caption. I would also guess that he had sex with Olivia.

And yeah, he is definitely very innocent and child-like (he has a teddy bear named Franklin and loves going to Disneyland.) I think this is because his development was stunted from the SA.

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by Anonymousreply 213December 9, 2021 12:31 AM

Do we think Sabrina Carpenter actually wrote those lyrics?

by Anonymousreply 214December 9, 2021 12:33 AM

I don't think he's innocent or childlike at all. He's playing the publicity game hard.

by Anonymousreply 215December 9, 2021 12:34 AM

R215 Then watch this and reevaluate.

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by Anonymousreply 216December 9, 2021 12:42 AM

Lots of people say he comes across as underaged….

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by Anonymousreply 217December 9, 2021 12:43 AM

As long Basset doesn't talk bad about Disney or some Hollywood bigwig, he still has a chance of getting cast in future roles. What counts is fans and followers who might watch him or listen to his music.

by Anonymousreply 218December 9, 2021 6:36 AM

[Quote] Then watch this and reevaluate.

I actually posted that here way back, on one of the "Who Will Come Out In..." threads. He's cheerily sarcastic in parts of that video, like when he says his bear isn't ready for a relationship and needs to work on himself. It's clear he's performing to a child (or not far out of childhood) audience but there's an edge to his "Gee whiz!" answers.

by Anonymousreply 219December 9, 2021 2:39 PM

Men can't make a career out of being a victim. Sadly. Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo, Beyonce and Britney can all make songs about being victimized by men and they will get success and praise. But if someone like Joshua made a song on that subject matter, everyone would just mock it and be unsympathetic. It's an annoying double standard.

by Anonymousreply 220December 9, 2021 3:40 PM

[quote] Men can't make a career out of being a victim.

Unless you're a conservative pundit who is being the victim of Liberal Woke Cancel Culture and the Squad.

by Anonymousreply 221December 9, 2021 7:47 PM

R221 True. Republicans are great at playing victim and justifying criminals and gun nuts.

by Anonymousreply 222December 9, 2021 8:23 PM

he started a discord

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by Anonymousreply 223December 10, 2021 11:13 AM

now sharing some of his poetry on the discord

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by Anonymousreply 224December 10, 2021 11:14 AM

r220 Maybe Joshua can be the first, but he'll need to write about a male ex. There's still no way for artists to succeed writing about female exes.

by Anonymousreply 225December 10, 2021 11:22 AM

R185

Lil Nas X is great. Not taking anything away from what he’s done. But Little Richard, Prince, MJ and Missy Elliot

There are many antecedent in popular music for black artist with an ambiguous or straight up gay and theatrical sensibility

by Anonymousreply 226December 10, 2021 11:38 AM

Oh, please. Lil Nas X is an out gay black man whose success is not based on a trauma narrative. He's nothing like a "I don't like mens no more" Little Richard, an openly homophobic Prince, or a perceived child molester MJ.

by Anonymousreply 227December 10, 2021 11:43 AM

He likely won't be at the level of Mendes or Rodrigo but he seems very involved in his fanbase and engages with them. That's a good strategy in that those fans will likely stick with him rather than ditch him for a new flavor of the month. Socializing with your audience is very important.

by Anonymousreply 228December 10, 2021 2:11 PM

R227 I think you’re only considering where those artist ended up, and forgetting their journey along the way.

My broader point is that Lil Nas isn’t sui generis. He himself makes the comparison to Little Richard.

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by Anonymousreply 229December 10, 2021 2:34 PM

[Quote] I think you’re only considering where those artist ended up, and forgetting their journey along the way.

Not really. Little Richard went "respectable" in the early 1960s. He flip flopped. I'm aware of the journey.

No one thinks Lil Nas X is the first flamboyant black man to grab a mic.

by Anonymousreply 230December 10, 2021 5:16 PM

Bisexuals are gross. It's obvious he's a straight leaning bisexual. He's been in many relationships with women yet none with men. I don't know why people here worship him. Yes, he's cute but his music career is a huge big fail and he fucks pussy. That is enough to put me off him. Mark my words, we will never see him with a boyfriend but he will probably have a new girlfriend tomorrow. That is how all bisexuals act. They will always choose a hetero life. For them men are just sex objects, not for romance.

by Anonymousreply 231December 10, 2021 5:33 PM

I can't think why a gayish boy who was molested might be ambivalent about romantic relationships with men...

by Anonymousreply 232December 10, 2021 5:34 PM

Alan Cumming hasn't chosen a hetero life.

by Anonymousreply 233December 10, 2021 5:35 PM

His whole image started off innocent enough. I hope it doesn’t take a nose dive toward homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 234December 10, 2021 6:28 PM

I don't see how it would. He didn't have to come out. But Harry Styles has changed the culture.

by Anonymousreply 235December 10, 2021 6:45 PM

R231 he's only 20. You act like he's a cynical jaded middle aged dude living in the 50s. There's no evidence he's straight-leaning and it's very possible he is in fact gay and slowly coming out. Get real, do you think many gay men didn't date women prior to coming out? I only see this level of hatred of bisexuals on this website and never in real life.

by Anonymousreply 236December 10, 2021 6:50 PM

He's a former child actor. They are raised to be cynical.

by Anonymousreply 237December 10, 2021 6:52 PM

I would be very surprised if guys like Harry Styles, Joshua Basset, and Jack Dylan Grazer actually date guys or there be any evidence of them hooking up with guys on the downlow. These guys seem so insincere about the whole sexually fluid thing that it comes off as pandering.

by Anonymousreply 238December 10, 2021 8:31 PM

It's not just guys. Look at Miley Cyrus. These people, no matter how "loud" and freewheeling they may seems, are part of a system. It's worse when they come into the industry as a child. They are schooled on what sells, what maximizes attention, and while same sex stuff may make headlines, same sex relationships don't aren't as marketable as opposite sex ones.

by Anonymousreply 239December 10, 2021 8:38 PM

I used to think that way but I realized also what benefit is there to these young guys to say they are bisexual, queer or LGBT if they aren't? It's not like it's going to get them any acting or music gigs. Their fans are fickle teen girls who will grow up and stop caring about "cute gay shit". Hollywood is run by straight men who care about profits hence they encourage their stars to stay closeted to keep their commercial appeal internationally.

I know people assumed Tyler the Creator was trolling about being gay (granted he's a sociopathic liar so the doubts made sense initially) but he eventually showed it wasn't a lie and he's truly a snow queen. So yeah I doubt any of these young guys who claim LGBT are lying because it's not that profitable. Most of the world is still homophobic in fact .

by Anonymousreply 240December 10, 2021 8:42 PM

None of these guys have any incentive to come out as gay or Bi or whatever. Most of them are dealing with incredible amounts of self loathing and internalized homophobia especially guys like Joshua Rush.

You have guys like Cameron kasky claiming that he's never done anything with a guy I mean come on man. Jack Dylan Grazer couldn't keep his hands or his mouth off of guys before he came out, we don't know what they do behind closed doors But I'm pretty sure they're not celibate.

by Anonymousreply 241December 10, 2021 9:39 PM

I've noticed many former Disney stars are from conservative states like Texas, Utah, Georgia and Ohio and have Evangelical parents. A lot of them learned to sing in church. Like The Jonas Brothers. Bassett is from San Diego County which is extremely conservative compared to Los Angeles and he was homeschooled. It's not surprising they have a hard time accepting their sexuality. Evangelicalism is still going strong in this country and many kids are still brainwashed by their parents.

by Anonymousreply 242December 10, 2021 9:45 PM

Harry Styles never claimed anything at all. Wikipedia does not list Styles as an "LGBT entertainer." In fact when asked if he was bisexual a few years back, he said he wasn't. He just woke up one day and realized his fangirls want him to be queer so bad and decided the best route to stay relevant to them was fulfill their fetish-fueled fantasy. Notice his persona is not like an actual gay or bi man but a non-threatening sexless cartoon parody with glitter and rainbows. But Styles never said "I'm gay, bi, pan or queer" at all. He is also aware that if he took away that ambiguity, it would kill his mystique and being actually gay and having a boyfriend would also ruin that fantasy of being sexless, obtainable queer for his dumb fans.

by Anonymousreply 243December 10, 2021 9:59 PM

R241, Kasky never said that. On the contrary, he’s admitted to having done some stuff with guys.

by Anonymousreply 244December 11, 2021 6:48 AM

I saw an Instagram story where someone accused him of stealing their boyfriend and he said he's never had a bf and never did anything with a guy.

by Anonymousreply 245December 11, 2021 9:03 AM

He's pretty young and many gays lose their gay virginity and start dating later than straight people especially those from conservative environments who struggle with the closet. Plus sexual repression is one side effect of being abused. Being abused by older men could have made him cautious about pursuing a gay relationship. He could have tied those urges to that abuse in fact and felt shame. Definitely not an easy path.

by Anonymousreply 246December 11, 2021 9:12 AM

His next SO will be a girl, not a boy. He will NEVER date another boy publicly. He is a straight leaning bisexual, only been in relationships with women. Sabrina even wrote songs about him fucking her. So yes, it's clear he prefers to fuck pussy, gross.

by Anonymousreply 247December 11, 2021 9:39 AM

R245 Exactly. He is clearly straight. He only says he is part of the LGBTQ to appear more woke. He has been in relationships with women. Never men.

by Anonymousreply 248December 11, 2021 9:40 AM

The guy is not straight at all, he had to come out because he was thirsting over Harry Styles and it was so obvious that he couldn't backtrack

by Anonymousreply 249December 11, 2021 9:55 AM

Why is this site pretending young closet gays don't date women? You have to be clueless to think every gay is a gold star. I can Joshua becoming gayer over time if anything.

by Anonymousreply 250December 11, 2021 9:59 AM

DL is bizarro world sometimes. People come out as LGBTQ which is technically good but then people accuse them of being fake. There's absolutely no benefit to lying for a male in the entertainment industry which is still conservative. Men do not benefit from this the same way women do. That's because straight men fetishize female bisexuality and women don't care about lesbians or bi women because it reduces their competition to men.

Male homosexuality and bisexuality is not as accepted as you'd think and it's seen as threatening to both straight men and straight women for different reasons. Harry Styles never came out as anything, he kept things ambiguous because if he actually came out, it would ruin his career. He's pandering to his fans by appearing sexually open and gender bending but not actually homo.

Plus all these relationships are PR driven and pushed by agents. These kids are young and still learning about themselves. Sadly they are in the spotlight so people judge them far more harshly then they would a local high schooler or college student.

by Anonymousreply 251December 11, 2021 10:12 AM

R250 You have no gaydar, lol. He is pretty obviously queer just from his body language and mannerism. He has jazz hands that rival Taylor Lautner‘s.

by Anonymousreply 252December 11, 2021 10:47 AM

Well, his body language is not as 1000% super duper gay as his friend Tommy‘s (on the left) but it still doesn’t look straight at all.

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by Anonymousreply 253December 11, 2021 10:53 AM

Just watch the first 20 seconds of this video to see his jazz hands in action but they are pretty obvious most of the time.

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by Anonymousreply 254December 11, 2021 10:59 AM

[Quote] I saw an Instagram story where someone accused him of stealing their boyfriend and he said he's never had a bf and never did anything with a guy.

Receipts? I'm a little skeptical that Joshua wouldn't keep such a revelation for another interview.

by Anonymousreply 255December 11, 2021 1:00 PM

[Quote] Sabrina even wrote songs about him fucking her.

Oh, please. As if she really writes songs.

by Anonymousreply 256December 11, 2021 1:01 PM

r255 I mean he's rumoured to have sucked a fair amount of dick in his teen camp days so it depends how long ago, and how she's defining "stole". If she just means "THIS VILE TEMPTRESS SEDUCED MY BOYFRIEND OVER THE CAMPFIRE!" I can kind of see it.

by Anonymousreply 257December 11, 2021 1:16 PM

It's the "I've never done anything with a guy" part that don't sound realistice. If he was going to say such a thing, he'd keep it for an interview that will generate clicks and streams.

by Anonymousreply 258December 11, 2021 1:38 PM

*realistic

by Anonymousreply 259December 11, 2021 1:38 PM

r245 You mean for Cameron or Joshua?

by Anonymousreply 260December 11, 2021 4:46 PM

his new discord

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by Anonymousreply 261December 11, 2021 4:58 PM

Post the revelant text or fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 262December 11, 2021 5:01 PM

r261 Gurl what is a "discord"? Onlyfans lite?

by Anonymousreply 263December 11, 2021 5:03 PM

Apparently, he's posting poetry there.

by Anonymousreply 264December 11, 2021 5:03 PM

R256 Please, if you have 0 knowledge about this matter, why bother giving a clichéd comments at all, eldergay? Just to make a fool out of yourself? Sabrina and Josh posts songs about their life all the time and often make references to the each other. She actually posted a song about their falling out on the same day she had an awkward encounter with him at a Harry Styles concert by chance. She even make hints at his sexuality there: ‚‘But now I, wonder why, I let your confusion keep me up at night.‘

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by Anonymousreply 265December 11, 2021 5:10 PM

his poem "quantum entanglement"

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by Anonymousreply 266December 11, 2021 5:10 PM

quantum entanglement part 2. Is it better than Dylan's?

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by Anonymousreply 267December 11, 2021 5:12 PM

R256 Here they are photographed at the Harry Styles concert where they met by chance. Sabrina has the same hair and sweater as in the TikTok above that was posted the same day. According to reports she saw Josh there and approached him but he only spoke with her for 10 seconds or so.

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by Anonymousreply 268December 11, 2021 5:14 PM

And did Sabrina tease "Skin" months before its release?

by Anonymousreply 269December 11, 2021 5:18 PM

R269 No, Sabrina teased a musical comeback but the song Skin was written as a response to Drivers License in a matter of days according to Sabrina‘s co-writer Tia Scola. There was no follow up single to Skin and she might not even put it on her next album. Sabrina definitely had the least flattering position in this love triangle tbh and releasing Skin as a response song wasn’t worth it in the end.

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by Anonymousreply 270December 11, 2021 5:25 PM

Doubtful. The song was probably already demoed. They offered it to Sabrina, who may or may not have changed a word or two, and the song was then rush released to capitalize on the... crisis.

by Anonymousreply 271December 11, 2021 5:27 PM

[Quote] releasing Skin as a response song wasn’t worth it in the end.

It has given Sabrina Carpenter her best commercial showing thus far.

by Anonymousreply 272December 11, 2021 5:27 PM

R266 Not bad but I am not sure this is poetry instead of just nicely presented thoughts about a theme. At least he writes more eloquently and elaborately than in the lyrics for his pop song, which are basic and unpoetic most of the time…

by Anonymousreply 273December 11, 2021 5:28 PM

Paint has DNA?

by Anonymousreply 274December 11, 2021 5:30 PM

Discord is the 2020s equivalent of AOL or AIM chat rooms.

by Anonymousreply 275December 11, 2021 8:01 PM

Does that mean the posts aren't archived?

by Anonymousreply 276December 11, 2021 8:12 PM
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