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Stephen Sondheim is Dead to Me!

Couldn’t live forever….

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by Anonymousreply 601November 28, 2021 3:16 AM

So young.

by Anonymousreply 1November 26, 2021 9:10 PM


by Anonymousreply 2November 26, 2021 9:10 PM

I thought he was already dead.

by Anonymousreply 3November 26, 2021 9:11 PM

I'm still here.


by Anonymousreply 4November 26, 2021 9:11 PM

I guess he finished the hat.


by Anonymousreply 5November 26, 2021 9:11 PM

He whipped some hot ass, but he couldn't live forever.

by Anonymousreply 6November 26, 2021 9:13 PM

Shhhhhhhtephen Shhhhhhhondheim !

by Anonymousreply 7November 26, 2021 9:13 PM

Would it help if we talked about Follies?

by Anonymousreply 8November 26, 2021 9:14 PM

The nail in the coffin of an era that won't ever be seen again. A true fucking loss, MARY me, but I'm kind of tearing up.....

by Anonymousreply 9November 26, 2021 9:14 PM

Moved on.

by Anonymousreply 10November 26, 2021 9:15 PM

One of the last true geniuses left in the Arts, and now he's gone.

It's fitting that West Side Story is premiering next week.

by Anonymousreply 11November 26, 2021 9:17 PM

It's always sad when someone you thought has been dead for years, only died today.

RIP, Mr. Sondheim. And remember, demons will charm you with a smile...

by Anonymousreply 12November 26, 2021 9:17 PM

I was to be told on Sunday!

by Anonymousreply 13November 26, 2021 9:18 PM

This makes me sad as well. RIP.

by Anonymousreply 14November 26, 2021 9:18 PM

Has Patti LuPone commented yet?

And when I say commented I mean made it all about her.

by Anonymousreply 15November 26, 2021 9:19 PM

He was swell, he was great, he had the whole world on his plate.


by Anonymousreply 16November 26, 2021 9:19 PM

At least we still have Andrew Lloyd Weber.

by Anonymousreply 17November 26, 2021 9:19 PM

Will he be buried in his dungeon?

by Anonymousreply 18November 26, 2021 9:20 PM

That's a wig on his head, right?

Sondheim, not ALW.

by Anonymousreply 19November 26, 2021 9:20 PM

So sad. I was just listening to a playlist of his songs earlier today. RIP!!

by Anonymousreply 20November 26, 2021 9:22 PM

Sleep well Sir.

by Anonymousreply 21November 26, 2021 9:23 PM

At least we still have Lin-Manuel and his freestylin.

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by Anonymousreply 23November 26, 2021 9:24 PM

Send in the frowns

by Anonymousreply 24November 26, 2021 9:24 PM

And one for Sondheim!

by Anonymousreply 25November 26, 2021 9:25 PM

He had a show on Broadway, one off, a movie memorializing his contribution to Jonathan Larson, and a remade movie of his first success. That’s the way to go.

by Anonymousreply 26November 26, 2021 9:26 PM

He had to show up Lisa Brown’s death.

by Anonymousreply 27November 26, 2021 9:26 PM

Is it bad I really want to listen to Being Alive........that's the first song of his I remember falling in love with as a gayling.

by Anonymousreply 28November 26, 2021 9:26 PM

Wow. Can't say I know much about him (not a musicals person per se) but certainly one of the great legends of the form.

by Anonymousreply 29November 26, 2021 9:27 PM

Everything's coming up Rose's what?

by Anonymousreply 30November 26, 2021 9:27 PM

We will honor him with a Sassy rendition of one of his most famous compositions.

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by Anonymousreply 31November 26, 2021 9:28 PM

As a gay man and as I Jew, I was proud that he was belonged to both camps. I knew this day would come soon but it sucks. The most talented man of his generation.

by Anonymousreply 32November 26, 2021 9:29 PM

I'll watch my new Criterion Collection edition of ORIGINAL CAST ALBUM: COMPANY tonight in his honor.

by Anonymousreply 33November 26, 2021 9:29 PM

I'd like to sing at his memorial. And when I say sing I mean With One Look.

by Anonymousreply 34November 26, 2021 9:29 PM

He's gone to the great FOLLIES production in the sky.

by Anonymousreply 35November 26, 2021 9:29 PM

Completely agree, R9. I understand that he was infamously reclusive.

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by Anonymousreply 37November 26, 2021 9:30 PM

I saw him at the Company showing November 15. Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 38November 26, 2021 9:31 PM

Send in the Undertakers

by Anonymousreply 39November 26, 2021 9:31 PM

[quote] The nail in the coffin of an era that won't ever be seen again. MARY me, but I'm kind of tearing up.....

R9 --

I'll MARY you a little

And love you just enough --


RIP, Steve.

by Anonymousreply 40November 26, 2021 9:31 PM

What will Barbra do!?

by Anonymousreply 41November 26, 2021 9:32 PM

Every day a little dead.

by Anonymousreply 42November 26, 2021 9:32 PM

A couple years ago he married his husband... 48 years his junior.

I guess we can't have his stuff.

by Anonymousreply 43November 26, 2021 9:32 PM

Was he a top or a bottom?

by Anonymousreply 44November 26, 2021 9:33 PM

We’ve been lucky to have him, and his work. Sad, tonight.

by Anonymousreply 45November 26, 2021 9:33 PM

Has anyone checked on Bernie? You know she must be prostrate with grief!

by Anonymousreply 46November 26, 2021 9:34 PM

Sad. He was just at the re-opening of Company. Rip.

by Anonymousreply 47November 26, 2021 9:34 PM

Playbill obit:

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by Anonymousreply 48November 26, 2021 9:34 PM

Is R13 Don Black or Georges Seurat? I can't tell if it merits an "oh, dear" or not.

by Anonymousreply 49November 26, 2021 9:35 PM

Amazingly he never won an Emmy - and couldn't be EGOT

by Anonymousreply 50November 26, 2021 9:35 PM

I think it rude of Playbill to show a picture from the casket.

by Anonymousreply 51November 26, 2021 9:35 PM

Billy Porter has already released what he will wear to the funeral

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by Anonymousreply 52November 26, 2021 9:35 PM

Broadway has to go dark this evening to honor his contributions to the theatre.

by Anonymousreply 53November 26, 2021 9:36 PM

Does anyone know what he died of, precisely? He had Thanksgiving dinner just yesterday with friends, so it can't have been "after a long illness."

Was it simply old age? But isn't it true that one doesn't "die of old age"--that it's always something?

The obituary was mum on the matter.

As he was so long-lived, I'd be curious to know what felled him.

by Anonymousreply 54November 26, 2021 9:36 PM

Kennedy Center

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by Anonymousreply 55November 26, 2021 9:37 PM

Broadway should go dark for a damn month for all he did for it. The master of the craft.

by Anonymousreply 56November 26, 2021 9:38 PM

He was truly great. Like Fosse great, or Warhol great. A great artist.

by Anonymousreply 57November 26, 2021 9:38 PM

[quote] Does anyone know what he died of, precisely?

Ooh, let me, let me...


by Anonymousreply 58November 26, 2021 9:39 PM

R54: He was fighting an oil rig fire in the Gulf of Mexico....HE WAS 91!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 59November 26, 2021 9:39 PM

R56 Charlotte St Martin will probably say only the Sondheim theatre should go dark.

by Anonymousreply 60November 26, 2021 9:40 PM

R55 Love that clip. Dame Angela is still kicking - recently 96. I wonder if she'll fly out for the funeral.

by Anonymousreply 61November 26, 2021 9:40 PM

R53, my guess is that the theaters would need time to coordinate, though I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen in the next few days or so.

by Anonymousreply 62November 26, 2021 9:40 PM

This must be one of his last interviews on a talk show, from about 2months ago. Here he talks about working on a new musical.

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by Anonymousreply 63November 26, 2021 9:41 PM

He was a genius. I know this descriptor is often overused, but in his case, it was simply true.

by Anonymousreply 64November 26, 2021 9:43 PM

A true legend and one of the greats. Company is the best thing ever imho.

by Anonymousreply 65November 26, 2021 9:43 PM

RIP. He was a great talent.

by Anonymousreply 66November 26, 2021 9:43 PM

A sudden death - not ill - was fine on Thanksgiving and died Friday. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 67November 26, 2021 9:44 PM

Tonight, the lights will be dimmed in all basement sex dungeons.

RIP, master.

by Anonymousreply 68November 26, 2021 9:44 PM

It is crass to speak of money at such time, I know, but I looked him up on Celebrity Net Worth and it listed $20M. Certainly a fortune to me but seems low for such a prolific and hugely successful composer.

by Anonymousreply 69November 26, 2021 9:46 PM

At 91, any sudden ailment can kill you. He lived a long life - began his career pre-Stonewall, which is insane to comprehend. He was there to see it all.

by Anonymousreply 70November 26, 2021 9:46 PM

He began his career WAY before Stonewall. Two decades before.

by Anonymousreply 71November 26, 2021 9:47 PM

Well damn.....rip.

by Anonymousreply 72November 26, 2021 9:48 PM

I knew him and worked with him. Been bawling since I heard the news. A man of infinite talent and infinite soul.

by Anonymousreply 73November 26, 2021 9:48 PM

Even I preferred La Cage.

by Anonymousreply 74November 26, 2021 9:48 PM

It's a pity he and Anthony Perkins never did another screenplay.

Dyan Cannon and Raquel Welch are still available.

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by Anonymousreply 75November 26, 2021 9:49 PM

He also did the score for, in my opinion, an underrated Alain Resnais film starring another recently departed icon of a time past - Jean-Paul Belmondo. Wish he composed for more films!

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by Anonymousreply 76November 26, 2021 9:52 PM

All negativity must be banned form this thread until after the obligatory week of respectful mourning and remembrance.

by Anonymousreply 77November 26, 2021 9:53 PM

Anything from Jake yet?

by Anonymousreply 78November 26, 2021 9:54 PM

Did seeing himself depicted in Tick Tick Boom kill him?

by Anonymousreply 79November 26, 2021 9:54 PM

Everybody dies!

by Anonymousreply 80November 26, 2021 9:55 PM

I'm sure Patti will deliver a touching curtain speech tonight at Company.

by Anonymousreply 81November 26, 2021 9:56 PM

R79 We can't exactly rule OUT Lin-Manuel Miranda culpability in Sondheim's death....

by Anonymousreply 82November 26, 2021 9:56 PM

Everybody rise! Rise! Rise! Rise! After three days.

by Anonymousreply 83November 26, 2021 9:56 PM

On Colbert a couple months ago. Ghastly.

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by Anonymousreply 84November 26, 2021 9:57 PM

I personally think it was the advance screening of Spielberg's WEST SIDE STORY, R82.

by Anonymousreply 85November 26, 2021 9:58 PM

Barbra's already paid tribute to him on Twitter.

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by Anonymousreply 87November 26, 2021 9:59 PM

We'll continue to 'Send in the English Muffins' to hubby with our sincerest condolences.

by Anonymousreply 88November 26, 2021 9:59 PM

What is the first clip everyone went to YouTube to see upon learning the news?


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by Anonymousreply 89November 26, 2021 9:59 PM

Sadness. 😢

by Anonymousreply 90November 26, 2021 10:00 PM

The articles say he was at a Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. I wonder what the direct cause of his death was

by Anonymousreply 91November 26, 2021 10:01 PM

[Quote] All negativity must be banned form this thread until after the obligatory week of respectful mourning and remembrance.

DL has an obligatory 30 seconds

by Anonymousreply 92November 26, 2021 10:02 PM

Surprised that Bob Dylan won the Nobel Prize in Literature but not Sondheim

by Anonymousreply 93November 26, 2021 10:03 PM

So he's breathless?

by Anonymousreply 94November 26, 2021 10:04 PM

[quote] I wonder if she'll fly out for the funeral.

Where does Angela Lansbury live?

by Anonymousreply 95November 26, 2021 10:05 PM

Elaine Paige!

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by Anonymousreply 96November 26, 2021 10:05 PM

It is truly a great loss. 😥😥

by Anonymousreply 97November 26, 2021 10:06 PM

R84, are you also R63?

by Anonymousreply 98November 26, 2021 10:06 PM

Do not let it grieve you.

No one leaves for good.

by Anonymousreply 99November 26, 2021 10:06 PM

Debra Messing

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by Anonymousreply 100November 26, 2021 10:06 PM


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by Anonymousreply 101November 26, 2021 10:06 PM

Makes me very sad. A genius. RIP indeed :(

by Anonymousreply 102November 26, 2021 10:06 PM

[quote]A sudden death - not ill - was fine on Thanksgiving and died Friday. Sad.

Come on... legendary career... in the arts history books.... dying suddenly at 91 the day after pleasant company... that's the jackpot. We should all be so lucky.

by Anonymousreply 103November 26, 2021 10:07 PM

Genius and legend.

Requiem aeternam dona ei, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat ei.

Requiescat in pace, Stephen.

by Anonymousreply 104November 26, 2021 10:07 PM

I bet Woody Allen will be next.

by Anonymousreply 105November 26, 2021 10:07 PM

R91, Probably that green bean/cream of mushroom soup/fried onions concoction.

by Anonymousreply 106November 26, 2021 10:08 PM

A genius. I'm destroyed. No one had that level of talent. I'm glad I lived in a time when he was still writing.

by Anonymousreply 107November 26, 2021 10:11 PM


[quote]I am so so sad to lose my friend Steve Sondheim He gave me so much to sing about ♥️♥️I loved him dearly and will miss him so much Thank you for all the gifts you gave the world Steve♥️

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by Anonymousreply 108November 26, 2021 10:11 PM

Deb Messing beat her to it R15.

She is “absolutely gutted”.

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by Anonymousreply 109November 26, 2021 10:11 PM

R53, a moving tribute to a career spent shutting down theaters.

by Anonymousreply 110November 26, 2021 10:13 PM

I sang a song he wrote for a film a was in.

Wait, that was 30 years ago?

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by Anonymousreply 111November 26, 2021 10:14 PM

If Broadway goes dark, won't that be a trip hazard?

by Anonymousreply 112November 26, 2021 10:14 PM

What was the deal with his mother - how crazy was she?

by Anonymousreply 113November 26, 2021 10:16 PM

My fave Still Here...

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by Anonymousreply 114November 26, 2021 10:17 PM

Was he in any long term relationships?

by Anonymousreply 115November 26, 2021 10:18 PM

Great story...

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by Anonymousreply 116November 26, 2021 10:19 PM

Someone needs to do a re-edit of the Princess Diana's dead video.

by Anonymousreply 117November 26, 2021 10:21 PM
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by Anonymousreply 118November 26, 2021 10:25 PM
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by Anonymousreply 119November 26, 2021 10:28 PM

I’m on the verge of tears, but he had a long life, and in spite of rarely achieving the kind of commercial success that Rodgers and Hammerstein or ALW etc. enjoyed, he received the respect of critics and performers that he so richly deserved. He was one of the finest poets that this country has ever produced. A true genius. RIP

by Anonymousreply 120November 26, 2021 10:29 PM

Was Angela Lansbury a stalwart Sondheim interpreter?

by Anonymousreply 121November 26, 2021 10:29 PM

[quote]As a gay man and as I Jew, I was proud that he was belonged to both camps.

Somehow the word 'camps' just feels grossly inappropriate.

by Anonymousreply 122November 26, 2021 10:33 PM

Since movies are distributed digitally, it’s not too late to include a dedication on Spielberg’s WSS.

Do it.

by Anonymousreply 123November 26, 2021 10:38 PM

R118. Why would noted Jewess Barbra Steisand be thinking the Lord?

by Anonymousreply 124November 26, 2021 10:38 PM

Kinda bombed, R124.

by Anonymousreply 125November 26, 2021 10:40 PM

Did he have a rent controlled apartment and can I have it?

by Anonymousreply 126November 26, 2021 10:40 PM

WTAF? He's been dead for most of the delay, and there's only ONE thread about it nowhere close to being maxed out?!?

You cunts are definitely slipping. Either that or the Sondheim freaks are too geriatric & addled to type for themselves.

by Anonymousreply 127November 26, 2021 10:40 PM

*Most of the DAY goddammit

by Anonymousreply 128November 26, 2021 10:41 PM

R118 by "Lord" she meant G-d.

by Anonymousreply 129November 26, 2021 10:41 PM

On a scale of 1-10, how DL of me is it that I saw the news getting ready to go out for the night and briefly considered staying home to watch you bitches?

by Anonymousreply 130November 26, 2021 10:42 PM

Eeeeeeeeverything's pushing up daisies!

by Anonymousreply 131November 26, 2021 10:42 PM

I know, I hate it when I'm trying to be witty and make wretched typos, R128

by Anonymousreply 132November 26, 2021 10:42 PM

I’m more of a Jerry Herman fan myself.

by Anonymousreply 133November 26, 2021 10:42 PM

Sad to see him dead, but glad he was at least able to see the Broadway revival of Company first.

by Anonymousreply 134November 26, 2021 10:45 PM

Can someone sing the Diana scream?

by Anonymousreply 135November 26, 2021 10:45 PM

In retrospect, he probably should have declined that Thanksgiving invitation from Stephen Schwartz.

by Anonymousreply 136November 26, 2021 10:46 PM

R126 His four-story townhouse at 246 East 49th Street is owned by a Trust.

by Anonymousreply 137November 26, 2021 10:46 PM

It’s strange - I’m not sad for him - he lived a long life and died suddenly hopefully without pain. I’m more sad for the world. If that makes any sense. I don’t often feel that way - certainly never with a celebrity. It just seemed like a richer world with him in it.

Mary!!! I know I know. This one just hits differently.

by Anonymousreply 138November 26, 2021 10:46 PM

Step by step putting it together

by Anonymousreply 139November 26, 2021 10:46 PM

Bad angel says At least this will prevent another rewrite of Roadshow.

Good angel is listening to Cleo Sings Sondheim with crystalline tears in his eyes.

by Anonymousreply 140November 26, 2021 10:47 PM

[quote] I’m more sad for the world. If that makes any sense.


by Anonymousreply 141November 26, 2021 10:47 PM

There will never be another like him…

Unless they send in the clones.

by Anonymousreply 142November 26, 2021 10:48 PM

[quote]Can someone sing the Diana scream?

I can!

by Anonymousreply 143November 26, 2021 10:48 PM

Has anyone posted this yet?

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by Anonymousreply 144November 26, 2021 10:48 PM

A lovely tribute from Lin-Manuel’s father

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by Anonymousreply 145November 26, 2021 10:49 PM

R138, with all due respect, the world has bigger problems.

by Anonymousreply 146November 26, 2021 10:49 PM

r43: I'm sure there will be an estate sale. Sotheby's and Christie's are probably chatting with the widower as I type.

by Anonymousreply 147November 26, 2021 10:51 PM

I hope he left a little something to his gorgeous 43 year old kept boy.

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by Anonymousreply 148November 26, 2021 10:52 PM


thank you for making me laugh, we knew it was coming but still... RIP

by Anonymousreply 149November 26, 2021 10:52 PM

[quote]A giant of the stage is gone, but his work will live with us forever. Isn’t it lovely how artists can capture us? Thank you for The Hat, Steve.

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by Anonymousreply 150November 26, 2021 10:52 PM

And don't tell Jeff, but I'm not getting buried today.

by Anonymousreply 151November 26, 2021 10:53 PM

Did he marry for estate planning or were they an actual romantic couple?

by Anonymousreply 152November 26, 2021 10:54 PM

Take him to the world.

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by Anonymousreply 153November 26, 2021 10:54 PM

[Quote] I’m more sad for the world. If that makes any sense.

It doesn't make sense.

by Anonymousreply 154November 26, 2021 10:54 PM

Send in the clowns. She was a good girl. May she RIP.

by Anonymousreply 155November 26, 2021 10:56 PM

[Quote] I can!—Glenn Close

With enough retakes.

by Anonymousreply 156November 26, 2021 10:56 PM

I'm reminded of the scene in "Queer as Folk" where they do a porn sweep of their dead friend's house. I guess the husband will convert Steve's dungeon.

by Anonymousreply 157November 26, 2021 10:58 PM

I just looked him up last night.

Sondheim detested his mother,[11] who was said to be psychologically abusive[12] and projected her anger from her failed marriage on her son:[13] "When my father left her, she substituted me for him. And she used me the way she used him, to come on to and to berate, beat up on, you see. What she did for five years was treat me like dirt, but come on to me at the same time."[14] She once wrote him a letter saying that the "only regret [she] ever had was giving him birth".[15] When his mother died in the spring of 1992, Sondheim did not attend her funeral. He had already been estranged from her for nearly 20 years.[11][16]

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by Anonymousreply 158November 26, 2021 11:00 PM

Boo hoo hoo.

by Anonymousreply 159November 26, 2021 11:01 PM

Is anyone else just DEVASTATED at this news? I feel unable to speak or sing. This leaves Lin-Manuel as our greatest living composer.

by Anonymousreply 160November 26, 2021 11:02 PM

As gay man with a dungeon, I think Sondheim would have appreciated this thread.

by Anonymousreply 161November 26, 2021 11:04 PM

I was just today clearing up some of my old DVRs & came upon a mid-‘60s Password featuring Stephen Sondheim. I decided not to delete it until he died. I’m sure I jinxed him.

by Anonymousreply 162November 26, 2021 11:04 PM

I'm impressed that (so far) this is the only thread on the subject.

by Anonymousreply 163November 26, 2021 11:04 PM

R160 - Surely you jest.

by Anonymousreply 164November 26, 2021 11:04 PM

You're an ignorant jackass, R59. Nobody dies simply of being 91.

I'll say it again for you, dumbass: everybody dies of SOMETHING SPECIFIC. And the Times obit didn't specify what that something was.

You don't celebrate Thanksgiving at 91 and then die all of a sudden a day later of being 91. YOU DIE OF SOMETHING THAT KILLS YOU. A fall, a cold, chicken pox, etc.


by Anonymousreply 165November 26, 2021 11:04 PM

I’m sad. I saw Company last week and really enjoyed it. RIP genius.

by Anonymousreply 166November 26, 2021 11:04 PM

[quote]This leaves Lin-Manuel as our greatest living composer.

Pardon me all to hell.

by Anonymousreply 167November 26, 2021 11:05 PM

Could Timothée play Henrik?

by Anonymousreply 168November 26, 2021 11:05 PM

r165: Overeating?

by Anonymousreply 169November 26, 2021 11:05 PM

r157, the sling is all hung with black crepe.

by Anonymousreply 170November 26, 2021 11:06 PM

He gave us BETH HOWLAND and her straws. Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 171November 26, 2021 11:10 PM

And he made sure not to give us Patty's witch!

by Anonymousreply 172November 26, 2021 11:11 PM

[quote]Amazingly he never won an Emmy - and couldn't be EGOT

Who needs an EGOT when you're a GOAT?

R111, I bought the Breathless CD at the time and was struck by Madonna's "Special Thanks" section in the liner notes, where she thanked "Stephen Sondheim, for the privilege." That was 1980 and she was at the peak of her stardom, so I thought that was rather gracious. Not an adjective I expected ever to associate with Madonna.

by Anonymousreply 173November 26, 2021 11:13 PM

This is so fucked. He was doing fine until fucking Thanksgiving.

Thanksgiving and even (especially?) "Friendsgiving" kills!

He had a good ride, but feels like there was more left.

by Anonymousreply 174November 26, 2021 11:13 PM

91 is a nice round age. Impressive.

by Anonymousreply 175November 26, 2021 11:15 PM

I guess now he’s just decomposing.

by Anonymousreply 176November 26, 2021 11:16 PM

Ugh. I hate the past two years.

by Anonymousreply 177November 26, 2021 11:18 PM
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by Anonymousreply 178November 26, 2021 11:19 PM

[quote] 91 is a nice round age.

90 is nice round age. 91 is just impertinent.

by Anonymousreply 179November 26, 2021 11:22 PM

His timing was a bit off. It would have been best for WSS BO for him to have died during premiere week, but we'll take this.

by Anonymousreply 180November 26, 2021 11:25 PM

Off topic, but I would have loved to have seen Lauren Bacall tackle Gypsy.

by Anonymousreply 181November 26, 2021 11:25 PM

What a lousy ending to an otherwise nice, quiet day after Thanksgiving.

by Anonymousreply 182November 26, 2021 11:27 PM

Or Bacall do I'm Still Here in Follies.

by Anonymousreply 183November 26, 2021 11:27 PM

The real Gyps would have pulled out something from her g-string to get Bacall off of her. Tackled, geez.

by Anonymousreply 184November 26, 2021 11:28 PM

" But, I didn't eat the salmon mousse."

by Anonymousreply 185November 26, 2021 11:28 PM

Damn the husband was 50 years younger?

by Anonymousreply 186November 26, 2021 11:29 PM

50-year younger surviving spouse Jeff Romley is ready to manage the Estate. Hopefully that Sondheim money will keep coming in the form of residuals forever.

by Anonymousreply 187November 26, 2021 11:29 PM

Aww that’s a shame.

He was a great director. I think my favorite movie of his was Jaws, but Duel was a close second.

by Anonymousreply 188November 26, 2021 11:30 PM

Has anyone checked on Stephen Schwartz lately?

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by Anonymousreply 189November 26, 2021 11:30 PM

R178 He's too dead for that gesture.

by Anonymousreply 190November 26, 2021 11:30 PM

[quote] Has anyone checked on Stephen Schwartz lately?

He’s fine. He sends his love from R167.

by Anonymousreply 191November 26, 2021 11:31 PM

This can't be Rose from "Golden Girls" -- how on earth would she even know what "Duel" is?

by Anonymousreply 192November 26, 2021 11:32 PM


Singular sensation?

Is dead.

by Anonymousreply 193November 26, 2021 11:33 PM

Listen to those of you mentioning Stephen Schwartz...I like Pop-U-Lar but believe me when he dies you won't see everyone from Anna Kendrick to Uzo Aduba rhapsodizing him. Frank Rich, Terry Teachout, Ben Brantley and even Chasten Buttiegieg won't rush to their computers. Barbra, Bernadette, Audra, Lea, Vanessa, Hugh, Josh, and George Takei wont stop what they are doing to post their tributes

They would for Lin though.

by Anonymousreply 194November 26, 2021 11:34 PM

RIP Mr. Sondheim. Your legend will live forever.

by Anonymousreply 195November 26, 2021 11:35 PM

Wikipedia page updated:

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by Anonymousreply 196November 26, 2021 11:35 PM

Someone get Larry King on the Ouija board

by Anonymousreply 197November 26, 2021 11:37 PM

[Quote] I would have loved to have seen Lauren Bacall tackle Gypsy.

I don't think Bacall had the warmth for Herbie.

by Anonymousreply 198November 26, 2021 11:38 PM

R182, George Michael's death spoiled Christmas, now Sondheim TG.

by Anonymousreply 199November 26, 2021 11:39 PM

The producers of Company are secretly THRILLED. box office, reviews, Tony all dancing like sugarplums in their heads

by Anonymousreply 200November 26, 2021 11:39 PM

He was living in Roxbury, Connecticut?

Is that what killed him?

by Anonymousreply 201November 26, 2021 11:41 PM

Beaten to death by ruff trade, but it will be all hush-hush to protect his legacy.

by Anonymousreply 202November 26, 2021 11:44 PM

He was molested!

by Anonymousreply 203November 26, 2021 11:46 PM

By Ansel Escort!

by Anonymousreply 204November 26, 2021 11:46 PM

He had sufficient.

by Anonymousreply 205November 26, 2021 11:47 PM

CT. is cool. There's no end to this pandemic. City life is a terrible idea during a global pandemic .

by Anonymousreply 206November 26, 2021 11:47 PM

Well maybe next year....

Apparently not!

by Anonymousreply 207November 26, 2021 11:48 PM

Has the grieving widower Mr. Jeff Romley issued a statement?

by Anonymousreply 208November 26, 2021 11:52 PM

Yes, it said “Oh, thank go—, er, I’ll make a statement at a later date.”

by Anonymousreply 209November 26, 2021 11:53 PM

How about Susan Dey...has she issued a comment?

by Anonymousreply 210November 26, 2021 11:55 PM

Barbara Streisand, Bernadette Peters and others are just too verklempt, but mananged to issue short statements.

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by Anonymousreply 211November 26, 2021 11:56 PM

If there is a bright side to this somber news, it’s that Kristin Chenoweth is no longer among the missing.

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by Anonymousreply 212November 26, 2021 11:57 PM

If you asked me my ideal death, it would be a quick one at an old age after a likely beautiful and delicious feast with loved ones, on a glorious fall/winter day, with the leaves changing. I hope it was in his sleep, all the better.

by Anonymousreply 213November 26, 2021 11:57 PM

He was at a performance of Company last week.

by Anonymousreply 214November 26, 2021 11:57 PM

If I’m a rube and don’t have much experience with Sondheim beyond Into the Woods, where should I start?

by Anonymousreply 215November 26, 2021 11:58 PM

R213, MARY!!!

by Anonymousreply 216November 27, 2021 12:00 AM

Thank you all for the cards and the flowers.

by Anonymousreply 217November 27, 2021 12:00 AM

[quote] Does anyone know what he died of, precisely?

Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 218November 27, 2021 12:00 AM

[quote] He was at a performance of Company last week.

Yes on November 15th. See R38.

by Anonymousreply 219November 27, 2021 12:00 AM

R201 et al

Some of you just don't have a clue. Roxbury, CT is quite full of notable people from entertainment world or otherwise famous.

Dustin Hoffman has a place in Roxbury. As does Rex Reed, Tom Cole....

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by Anonymousreply 220November 27, 2021 12:01 AM

For drama, R215, try Sweeney Todd. If you're into glorious music go to Pacific Overtures and Passion.

by Anonymousreply 221November 27, 2021 12:01 AM

Does Kristina Lenk still stink in "Company"?

by Anonymousreply 222November 27, 2021 12:01 AM

[quote] “Broadway has lost a musical genius.” — Actor and author Marlee Matlin, via Twitter.

How can she tell?

by Anonymousreply 223November 27, 2021 12:01 AM

As befitting Litchfield County, Roxbury ticks many boxes for certain people.

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by Anonymousreply 224November 27, 2021 12:02 AM

[quote] “We shall be singing your songs forever. Oh, my heart hurts…” — singer and actor Lea Salonga, via Twitter.

Well, that's my personal idea of hell.

My head hurts now too!

by Anonymousreply 225November 27, 2021 12:03 AM

the news played some of his greatest hits, too many to mention. "There is a Place For Us",

by Anonymousreply 226November 27, 2021 12:04 AM

It was likely Thanksgiving dinner that did Stephen Sondheim in (he died on Friday morning).

There should be an coroner's inquest with particular focus on who prepared and served that meal....

by Anonymousreply 227November 27, 2021 12:04 AM


"Does anyone know what he died of, precisely?"

His heart stopped beating....

by Anonymousreply 228November 27, 2021 12:05 AM

[quote]It was likely Thanksgiving dinner that did Stephen Sondheim in (he died on Friday morning).

I hope he had the chocolate cake.

by Anonymousreply 229November 27, 2021 12:05 AM

We told you not to cook stuffing inside the bird.

by Anonymousreply 230November 27, 2021 12:05 AM

He almost died 40 years ago when he heard Liz Taylor sing "Send in the Clowns" for the first time.

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by Anonymousreply 232November 27, 2021 12:07 AM

Let's see whose first out of the gate to launch a "best of Sondheim" concert or recording...

My guess is Bernadette Peters or Barbara Streisand on female vocalist side.

On another note lights tonight are dimmed on Broadway to note passing of Stephen Sondheim.

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by Anonymousreply 233November 27, 2021 12:07 AM

[quote]If I’m a rube and don’t have much experience with Sondheim beyond Into the Woods, where should I start?

Start with Cleo Laine's Sondheim album. "Cleo Sings Sondheim" It is an excellent representation of his work.

Then listen to the original cast albums of:



A Little Night Music

Sweeney Todd

A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum


West Side Story

by Anonymousreply 234November 27, 2021 12:08 AM

R213 beautifully said. Death is harsh but under the right circumstances, it's just another ceebration of life.

by Anonymousreply 235November 27, 2021 12:08 AM

BILL TAYLOR is that you at R232?

by Anonymousreply 236November 27, 2021 12:09 AM

"This leaves Lin-Manuel as our greatest living composer."

Said no one ever.

by Anonymousreply 237November 27, 2021 12:09 AM

R165 it was probably the aids that finally caught him.

by Anonymousreply 238November 27, 2021 12:10 AM

Follies is so overrated especially on DL.

by Anonymousreply 239November 27, 2021 12:10 AM

[quote] Let's see whose first out of the gate


by Anonymousreply 240November 27, 2021 12:11 AM

I bet the husband clubbed him to death with a frozen turkey. Then when the police showed up, he offered to feed them with a delicious Thanksgiving turkey.

"Oh, officer. He started to get up from that chair, had an attack of vertigo and fell, hitting his head."

by Anonymousreply 241November 27, 2021 12:13 AM


Until reading of will throws a few surprises at Mr. Jeff Romley

by Anonymousreply 242November 27, 2021 12:14 AM

R63 will his last unfinished work be completed by someone else, I wonder?

by Anonymousreply 243November 27, 2021 12:18 AM

R242 here again.

Mr. Jeff Romley had been with Mr. Stephen Sondheim for many years before they became an official item, then subsequent marriage.

It thus likely Mr. Sondheim long ago had put his affairs in order including as consequence of marriage to Jeff Romley. Happily for Mr. Sondheim he lived long enough to see same sex marriage made legal. Among other things this greatly lessened complications of estate planning vis-à-vis having a legal spouse of sex he preferred to love.

Going by usual format, and we'll likely find out something in due time, some sort of foundation will be set up and or other sort of trust or trusts to deal with Mr. Sondheim's vast catalog. The couple did not have children, so unless Mr. Romley does so later on everything will have to go somewhere when he himself dies.

by Anonymousreply 244November 27, 2021 12:19 AM


While shopping for something appropriate in black, Patti LuPone was overheard on her cell phone speaking with her agent about her big Sondheim one woman show....

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by Anonymousreply 245November 27, 2021 12:23 AM

Elaine Paige shall be milking this come her BBC2 radio programme on Sunday.

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by Anonymousreply 246November 27, 2021 12:23 AM

[quote]RIP to the man who composed the soundtrack of basically the first twenty-five years of my life. And then some.

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by Anonymousreply 247November 27, 2021 12:24 AM

They should remaster "Cleo Sings Sondheim".

by Anonymousreply 248November 27, 2021 12:26 AM

r213. same.

by Anonymousreply 249November 27, 2021 12:27 AM

I won't rest until Julia McKenzie makes a statement. She was the British Angela Lansbury. ;)

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by Anonymousreply 250November 27, 2021 12:28 AM

[quote] Damn the husband was 50 years younger?

A 46-year difference is one thing. But 50 years?! How appalling.

by Anonymousreply 251November 27, 2021 12:30 AM

[quote] She was the British Angela Lansbury.


by Anonymousreply 252November 27, 2021 12:32 AM

[quote]This leaves Lin-Manuel as our greatest living composer.

Just making sure I got this right: r160 means "our greatest living BROADWAY composer", right?

by Anonymousreply 253November 27, 2021 12:32 AM

Lea Salonga, R225, NOT Lea Michele.

by Anonymousreply 254November 27, 2021 12:33 AM

Surely not, r253.

by Anonymousreply 255November 27, 2021 12:35 AM

Look into their eyes and you'll see what they know: everybody dies!

by Anonymousreply 256November 27, 2021 12:36 AM

[quote]What a lousy ending to an otherwise nice, quiet day after Thanksgiving.

Black Friday indeed.

by Anonymousreply 257November 27, 2021 12:37 AM

After waiting an appropriate period of time (read a day or two...), scores of actors and male singers (gay) will be lining up to make their move on Jeff Romley, the man will be beating them back with a stick....

by Anonymousreply 258November 27, 2021 12:39 AM

[quote] Has anyone checked on Stephen Schwartz lately?

Oh, he hasn’t done anything since The Brady Bunch.

by Anonymousreply 259November 27, 2021 12:39 AM

Playbill has assembled all of the tributes:

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by Anonymousreply 260November 27, 2021 12:40 AM

Sondheim's first post upon joining Instagram over a year ago.

"White. A blank page or canvas. The challenge -- bring order to the whole"

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by Anonymousreply 261November 27, 2021 12:40 AM

Oh, Christ! Marie's Crisis is going to be a madhouse tonight.

by Anonymousreply 262November 27, 2021 12:41 AM

Epoch Times is reporting that Sondheim died of rickets.

by Anonymousreply 263November 27, 2021 12:42 AM

r220 I'm an old New Yorker.

Piss on CT

by Anonymousreply 264November 27, 2021 12:42 AM

Julie said "Have another slice of turkey Steve it will not kill you"

by Anonymousreply 265November 27, 2021 12:42 AM

[quote]Let's see whose first out of the gate to launch a "best of Sondheim" concert or recording...

I wonder if Stephen Colbert will be the first out of the gate with a musical tribute by bringing someone on his show to sing for Sondheim. Patti perhaps?

by Anonymousreply 266November 27, 2021 12:43 AM

Goodbye for now...

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by Anonymousreply 267November 27, 2021 12:45 AM

R62 here. If R233 is correct and they are dimming the lights in his honor tonight, then my humble apologies to R53.

by Anonymousreply 268November 27, 2021 12:45 AM

[quote] It thus likely Mr. Sondheim long ago had put his affairs in order

I notice that the house belongs to a trust.

So I wonder if that trust was there to help if Sondheim lapsed into dementia and to keep gold-diggers away.

by Anonymousreply 269November 27, 2021 12:47 AM

Stephen Sondheim

March 22, 1930 – November 26, 2021

Damn, he just married his husband four years ago at age 87.


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by Anonymousreply 270November 27, 2021 12:47 AM

He had a way with words.

by Anonymousreply 271November 27, 2021 12:48 AM

Don't ask. I didn't know him.

by Anonymousreply 272November 27, 2021 12:48 AM


He must have been murdered by one of the other guests! But which one? They all have secrets to hide...

by Anonymousreply 273November 27, 2021 12:49 AM

R267, Liz Callaway is performing tomorrow evening in the Boston area.

by Anonymousreply 274November 27, 2021 12:49 AM

Sorry to read this

by Anonymousreply 275November 27, 2021 12:50 AM


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by Anonymousreply 276November 27, 2021 12:50 AM

[quote] I notice that the house belongs to a trust.

A lot of rich people do this. It's a way to lower the taxes they pay, buy property anonymously and protect their assets from legal issues.

by Anonymousreply 277November 27, 2021 12:50 AM

Has Susan Dey commented yet?

by Anonymousreply 278November 27, 2021 12:51 AM

r272, we know you aren't Susan Dey, because that's a statement and Miss Dey don't roll that way.

by Anonymousreply 279November 27, 2021 12:52 AM

To think of all the hot ass that passed through his sex dungeon...

by Anonymousreply 280November 27, 2021 12:52 AM
by Anonymousreply 281November 27, 2021 12:52 AM


Many famous and or wealthy persons put real estate into trusts. This yes, even though they are married, have children, and so on.

One main reason is for tax purposes. As part of a trust that property in Roxbury, CT isn't part of the Sondheim estate. If it was done before marriage this had important tax advantages to the estate. Even afterwards it can deliver benefits to surviving spouse.

by Anonymousreply 282November 27, 2021 12:53 AM

Baron Lloyd Webber has weighed in, and conceded that Sondheim was indeed the greater of the two.

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by Anonymousreply 283November 27, 2021 12:54 AM

Baron Lloyd Webber throws shade: An inspiration not just to two but to three generations (ie, you were composing musicals when Moses was a babe swimming in the Nile, ie you were an old, old fart).

by Anonymousreply 284November 27, 2021 12:56 AM

[quote]scores of actors and male singers (gay) will be lining up to make their move on Jeff Romley, the man will be beating them back with a stick....

Steve taught him well

by Anonymousreply 285November 27, 2021 12:57 AM

Romley had a bit on the side. When things quiet down, he'll move the bit into the NYC townhouse.

by Anonymousreply 286November 27, 2021 12:58 AM

I'm sure he bequeathed something special to good buddy Bernadette Peters.

by Anonymousreply 287November 27, 2021 12:59 AM

Unlike a year ago when we lost Rebecca Luker (and others) Broadway isn't on covid lock down any longer. Thus no reason for proper usual respects to be paid to mark the passing of one of their own.

Lights went out on Broadway for Hal Prince two years ago, damned if they don't now for Stephen Sondheim.

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by Anonymousreply 288November 27, 2021 12:59 AM

He was a cutie pie when he was younger:

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by Anonymousreply 289November 27, 2021 12:59 AM

Chatter on Broadway World....

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by Anonymousreply 290November 27, 2021 1:00 AM

Did Broadway dim for Nick Cordero?

by Anonymousreply 291November 27, 2021 1:00 AM

From Joe Keenan:

My favorite word in a Sondheim lyric is "forever" in "Sunday." A painting rapturously celebrates its own immortality, the music building to joyful crescendo on those 3 syllables. He understood the permanence art can achieve when it's skilled and passionate and timeless and true.

by Anonymousreply 292November 27, 2021 1:03 AM

Interview with the NYT done just this past Sunday

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by Anonymousreply 293November 27, 2021 1:03 AM

Hugh Jackman

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by Anonymousreply 294November 27, 2021 1:06 AM


Don't thinks so... Both Luker and Cordero died while Broadway was still on lock-down. Under normal circumstances lights would have been dimmed, but since theatres where shut don't think it happened to mark either death.

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by Anonymousreply 295November 27, 2021 1:06 AM

Perfect. Perfect. Perfect

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by Anonymousreply 296November 27, 2021 1:07 AM

[quote]Under normal circumstances lights would have been dimmed, but since theatres where shut don't think it happened to mark either death.

But Broadway lights were kept lit all during the pandemic. They could have dimmed if they wanted to.

by Anonymousreply 297November 27, 2021 1:10 AM

You know you're a legend when you're satirized.

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by Anonymousreply 298November 27, 2021 1:12 AM

R260 Well of course Jeremy O Harris has to make it about him by pointing out Sondheim came to some of his plays. Ugh he just can't help himself

by Anonymousreply 299November 27, 2021 1:14 AM

[quote] Epoch Times is reporting that Sondheim died of rickets.

Oh, that’s just dumb.

Cricket bites are not fatal.

by Anonymousreply 300November 27, 2021 1:17 AM

Well there goes my birthday!

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by Anonymousreply 301November 27, 2021 1:17 AM

What did he die of?

by Anonymousreply 302November 27, 2021 1:18 AM

His heart stopped, r302.

by Anonymousreply 303November 27, 2021 1:22 AM

John Barrowman - Part 1

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by Anonymousreply 304November 27, 2021 1:27 AM

The 1961 West Side Story will be in cinemas courtesy Fathom Events this Sunday (11/28) and Wednesday (12/1).

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by Anonymousreply 305November 27, 2021 1:30 AM

Barrowman posted Part 2 and Part 3 as replies to his Part 1. I can't seem to link the replies, so go to John's page to see all.

by Anonymousreply 306November 27, 2021 1:31 AM

At 91 with previous heart trouble and a sudden death, likely sudden onset ventricular fibrillation and quick death. Possibly a massive stroke.

Crazy business this, this life we live in.

Can't complain about the time we're given.

With so little to be sure of in this world...

We had a moment...

by Anonymousreply 307November 27, 2021 1:31 AM

"At least we still have Andrew Lloyd Weber."

was that supposed to make me feel better?

by Anonymousreply 308November 27, 2021 1:32 AM

r293 some of us are locked out of being able to read that article, it would be great if you could post it here.

by Anonymousreply 309November 27, 2021 1:33 AM


Well supposed Broadway could have dimmed lights marking those deaths, but much like public wearing of mourning much of the impact is lost if no one is there to observe.

In normal course of things dimming lights on Broadway has a huge impact because theatre goers and others in area notice something is up. You could have flung a dead cat for miles last year or so on Broadway and not hit a living soul. That's how empty things were.....

Marque lights only go out on Broadway for one minute, so unless you happen to be in area you'll miss entire thing.

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by Anonymousreply 311November 27, 2021 1:34 AM

Back story on dimming lights

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by Anonymousreply 313November 27, 2021 1:36 AM

Lin Manuel Miranda

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by Anonymousreply 314November 27, 2021 1:37 AM

It was the PTSD from that recording session with Elaine Stritch. I KNEW there was a blood clot just WAITING for the right moment to take him away!

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by Anonymousreply 315November 27, 2021 1:41 AM

At the piano as a kid.

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by Anonymousreply 316November 27, 2021 1:43 AM

I was the first, r313...

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by Anonymousreply 317November 27, 2021 1:44 AM

I hope Sondheim and Arthur Laurents are smacking the shit out of each other over who gets to fuck porno twinks like Kurt Marshall (who died when AIDS-related illnesses were running rampant).

by Anonymousreply 318November 27, 2021 1:45 AM

Thank you 311

by Anonymousreply 319November 27, 2021 1:45 AM

Is Caroline or Change worth seeing? Going to NYC in a few weeks.

by Anonymousreply 320November 27, 2021 1:45 AM

Everybody rise!

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by Anonymousreply 321November 27, 2021 1:49 AM

"I'm still here".

by Anonymousreply 322November 27, 2021 1:50 AM

Is there a good biography of Sondheim?

by Anonymousreply 323November 27, 2021 1:54 AM

What was on his...oh, forget it!

by Anonymousreply 324November 27, 2021 1:54 AM

Betty Buckley has been posting all evening on her Twitter page about him.

by Anonymousreply 325November 27, 2021 1:57 AM
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by Anonymousreply 326November 27, 2021 1:57 AM

r320 I'm not sure why you thought this was the appropriate thread to ask that question. Why don't you take it to the THEATRE GOSSIP thread?

by Anonymousreply 327November 27, 2021 1:59 AM

Well, we know it wasn’t Lady Gaga sings The Sound of Music R324

by Anonymousreply 328November 27, 2021 2:00 AM

Will "Sondheim/Prince" follow on the heels of "Fosse/Verdon"?

by Anonymousreply 329November 27, 2021 2:00 AM

Lin-Manuel's comment about Shakespeare was utterly stupid.

by Anonymousreply 330November 27, 2021 2:03 AM

Didn't Jerry Herman die this year too?

by Anonymousreply 331November 27, 2021 2:03 AM

R329 = Bradley Whitford.

by Anonymousreply 332November 27, 2021 2:03 AM

2019, r331.

by Anonymousreply 333November 27, 2021 2:04 AM

Sondheim's last words: "If Datalounge mentions Follies one more time..."

by Anonymousreply 334November 27, 2021 2:05 AM

Now he can be reunited with the love of his life: Lee Remick.

by Anonymousreply 335November 27, 2021 2:08 AM

It wouldn't surprise me if someone makes a Sondheim biopic and makes Lee Remick his Girl Friday.

by Anonymousreply 336November 27, 2021 2:12 AM

Whoa there, r335...

by Anonymousreply 337November 27, 2021 2:13 AM

R336 Ugh yeah, it'd be just like the Alan Turing biopic, where they overemphasize the platonic bond between a fag and his hag in order to dilute the gayness of the real person. Or the Freddie Mercury biopic, which was a little bit different because he did actually have a romantic relationship with the woman before coming out.

by Anonymousreply 338November 27, 2021 2:14 AM

[quote] Dyan Cannon and Raquel Welch are still available.

So are we, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 339November 27, 2021 2:26 AM

Some people will do anything to avoid those Black Friday crowds.

by Anonymousreply 340November 27, 2021 2:51 AM

For what it's worth, Sondheim was the most brilliant conversationalist I ever met. Funny, intelligent, bitchy, and profound.

by Anonymousreply 341November 27, 2021 2:59 AM

He hit me in the head with a fondue pot.

by Anonymousreply 342November 27, 2021 3:05 AM


[quote]The last of the great Musical Comedy composers has died. Steve, I will never be a able to properly thank you for the lessons learned. You are the Gold Standard.

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by Anonymousreply 343November 27, 2021 3:08 AM

[quote]What did he die of?

He was fighting an oil rig fire in the Gulf of Mexico.

He was 91, Rose!

by Anonymousreply 344November 27, 2021 3:25 AM
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by Anonymousreply 345November 27, 2021 3:27 AM

Speech from Marianne Elliot and Patti at Company tonight

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by Anonymousreply 346November 27, 2021 3:29 AM

Is Madge singing live at r111?

When did she learn to sing and dance at the same time?

by Anonymousreply 347November 27, 2021 3:35 AM

Well he’s not around anymore

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by Anonymousreply 348November 27, 2021 3:44 AM

[Quote] bitchy

That reminds me of when Soundheim told Lapone, live on the radio, that she wasn't a star.

by Anonymousreply 349November 27, 2021 3:46 AM

Amazingly, the ATC thread on Sondheim is nowhere near as long as I thought it might be -- I thought it might approach the infamous on "treasure trails" during the revival run of "South Pacific", but nope. Even stalwart poster AlanScott must be in shock today , since he hasn't posted yet.

by Anonymousreply 350November 27, 2021 4:05 AM

Critic’s Appreciation: The Rapture and Relevance of Stephen Sondheim:

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by Anonymousreply 351November 27, 2021 4:09 AM

I would have liked to have been there when he ran into Richard Rodgers.

by Anonymousreply 352November 27, 2021 4:22 AM

There is no speech from Patty at r346

by Anonymousreply 353November 27, 2021 4:26 AM

R353 Okay it's short but she says they're dedicating the performance and the rest of the run to him. And if we're being pedantic here, it's Patti.

by Anonymousreply 354November 27, 2021 4:28 AM

Patti needs to stop acting like she was Sondheim's muse now that he's dead. Her foghorn voice with poor diction didn't fit his light, precise songs at all.

Sit down, Patti LuPone!

by Anonymousreply 355November 27, 2021 4:33 AM

And another hundred people just got off of the train....

by Anonymousreply 356November 27, 2021 4:33 AM

R342 = Ann Miller

by Anonymousreply 357November 27, 2021 4:37 AM

I'm beside by side myelf.

by Anonymousreply 358November 27, 2021 4:40 AM

This just in: Jeff Romley is negotiating with a leading psychiatric hospital chain to use “Losing My Mind” as a jingle for its radio commercials.

by Anonymousreply 359November 27, 2021 4:41 AM

I'm beside by side myself.

by Anonymousreply 360November 27, 2021 4:41 AM

Why does everyone have to say he was the most talented person ever in their speeches? I think we are getting a tad carried away here with those claims. He had a narrow niche after all.

by Anonymousreply 361November 27, 2021 4:48 AM

To R161, did he really have a Dungeon in his basement? I have a Sondheim story in which I insult him

by Anonymousreply 362November 27, 2021 4:55 AM

R361 it was a narrow niche in terms of artistic product, but writing entire musicals is fucking hard and he was brilliant at it. I don't think it's overstatement to say he was the greatest Broadway composer to have lived in the last 50 years, at the very least.

by Anonymousreply 363November 27, 2021 4:58 AM

First of all there are only like 5 Broadway composers and secondly they each have their own thing. It’s just not apples to apples. It’s just weird and pretentious that now everybody has to say how he was the most brilliant composer in history to let it be knows that they are a theater expert. It’s just exhausting copy cat behavior. Come up with your own accolades.

by Anonymousreply 364November 27, 2021 5:08 AM
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by Anonymousreply 365November 27, 2021 5:17 AM

Strouse and Adams, Sheldon Harnick and John Kander are still with us, as well, and they are all terrific and have classic shows. Actually most of them wrote shows more popular and longer running than Sondheim. But Sondheim really dominated the musical for about half a century, and it's sad to hear of his passing.

by Anonymousreply 366November 27, 2021 5:31 AM

[Quote] Jeff Romley is negotiating with a leading psychiatric hospital chain to use “Losing My Mind” as a jingle for its radio commercials.

Raquel Welch is the dame to do it!

by Anonymousreply 367November 27, 2021 5:33 AM

tick... tick...

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by Anonymousreply 368November 27, 2021 5:34 AM

There's a lot I'll have missed

But I'll not have been dead

When I die!

And a person should celebrate everything

Passing by.

by Anonymousreply 369November 27, 2021 5:35 AM

[quote] Now he can be reunited with the love of his life: Lee Remick.


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by Anonymousreply 371November 27, 2021 5:41 AM

It's cool that he actually recorded a commentary for the Criterion edition of the Company doc before he died. Haven't listened to it yet but looking forward.

by Anonymousreply 372November 27, 2021 5:57 AM

It was fun seeing "Tick, Tick... Boom!" tonight knowing nothing about the story and finding out that he's a character in it (played by Bradley Whitford). He's treated as a kind benevolent spirit in the story--it was really sweet to see his character in it tonight, like he hadn't left us fully.

by Anonymousreply 373November 27, 2021 6:24 AM

That Tick, Tick...Boom' sounds SO pretentious and self-absorbed.

by Anonymousreply 374November 27, 2021 6:34 AM

Was he a raging alcoholic or was he born with those bags?

by Anonymousreply 375November 27, 2021 6:35 AM

When did he quit smoking? Don't tell me Friday.

by Anonymousreply 376November 27, 2021 6:46 AM

What will happen with Square One ?

by Anonymousreply 377November 27, 2021 6:52 AM

Did he like Asian Noodle?

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by Anonymousreply 378November 27, 2021 7:10 AM

Somewhere, I hope Sondheim and Hammerstein have been reunited.

by Anonymousreply 379November 27, 2021 7:20 AM

I was thinking of Sondheim and Perkins. Did they remain friends until Perkins' death?

by Anonymousreply 380November 27, 2021 7:23 AM

[quote]That Tick, Tick...Boom' sounds SO pretentious and self-absorbed.

Thanks for letting us know, but I tend not to give a lot of weight to opinions from people who haven't actually seen the movie or play in question.

by Anonymousreply 381November 27, 2021 7:28 AM

Not to worry r381. I'm sure that particular poster has plenty of his own weight to spread around.

by Anonymousreply 382November 27, 2021 8:04 AM

RIP Mr Sondheim you will be missed💛 What a talent you were.

by Anonymousreply 383November 27, 2021 8:12 AM

Will Dennis Christopher be at the funeral? (or does no one here on DL know that story).

by Anonymousreply 384November 27, 2021 8:14 AM

[quote] Come up with your own accolades.

Ok. He was the most brilliant composer in history.

by Anonymousreply 385November 27, 2021 8:17 AM

She probably had no clue what she was doing, yet Cher, yes CHER - managed to deliver the very best version of Send in The Clowns. Yes, Cher. Don't inform her.

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by Anonymousreply 386November 27, 2021 8:25 AM

Roxane didn't make some pissy, race- and gender-related comment about a white man? Wow.

by Anonymousreply 387November 27, 2021 8:25 AM

Brit here, woke up in the night to read the news and felt sad chills indeed (Mary me a little). I hoped Sondheim would just go on and on.

Point above about a 'narrow niche' (tautology anyway) misses the point. Most genius has a niche by definition. Philip Roth didn't also exhibit paintings, Stanley Kubrick didn't also publish poetry. The depth and breadth of Sondheim's contribution was enough for three lifetimes, and leaves us riches indeed to explore and savour.

If there's a comparable genius at work in any other field, in his or her 'narrow niche', let's all know about it. As for now, Sondheim is rightly being mourned and celebrated, and will be for decades.

by Anonymousreply 388November 27, 2021 8:30 AM
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by Anonymousreply 389November 27, 2021 8:36 AM

Not an ordinary Sunday.

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by Anonymousreply 390November 27, 2021 8:45 AM

It keeps changing.

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by Anonymousreply 391November 27, 2021 8:50 AM

Has Jeanine Tesori commented yet?

by Anonymousreply 392November 27, 2021 9:16 AM

Wonder if he saw the final "West Side Story" cut.

by Anonymousreply 393November 27, 2021 9:24 AM
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by Anonymousreply 394November 27, 2021 9:35 AM

No comment from Liza yet?

Her version of "Losing My Mind" was a plus for her back in 1989.

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by Anonymousreply 395November 27, 2021 9:43 AM

His 90th birthday celebration...

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by Anonymousreply 396November 27, 2021 9:43 AM

Boy, are you stupid, R361.

by Anonymousreply 397November 27, 2021 9:43 AM

That’s a spectacular version of Sunday. Thanks for posting R394.

by Anonymousreply 398November 27, 2021 9:46 AM

R361, "Send in the Clowns" certainly widened his niche when it became a crossover classic song sung and recorded by so many varied artists.

by Anonymousreply 399November 27, 2021 9:52 AM

R394 What the hell is it about The Royal Albert Hall that calls for everything to become a Cecil B. DeMille production?

by Anonymousreply 400November 27, 2021 10:03 AM

Some of you are over the top with the praise. Greatest composer ever? Compared to Beethoven and Mozart? Gimme a break.

by Anonymousreply 401November 27, 2021 10:17 AM

His husband (who is 50 years younger) hit the jackpot!!!....Congrats Jeff!!....And barely in your 40s and handsome?....Wonderful!!

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by Anonymousreply 402November 27, 2021 10:17 AM

R401 Neither of them did much work for the Broadway stage.

by Anonymousreply 403November 27, 2021 10:19 AM

Attention Whore Lin Miranda has weighed in. Because, of course. I'm surprised he took the time to remove his nose from Jimmy Fallons low rated butthole.

by Anonymousreply 404November 27, 2021 10:43 AM

I always said there were two celebrities/famous people whose deaths I could see myself getting emotional over. Sondheim was one, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't cry when I heard the news. I know - total Mary moment. I remember taping Into the Woods on our VCR as a kid and watching it over and over until the tape basically wore out.

If you never saw the Six by Sondheim documentary on HBO, I recommend it. Here it is uploaded to YouTube.

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by Anonymousreply 405November 27, 2021 10:49 AM

R401, what R403 said. I don't think anyone here said Sondheim was the greatest composer in the history of music, but possibly, arguably, on Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 406November 27, 2021 10:49 AM

I've never heard the Dennis Christopher story and I've been here a while.

by Anonymousreply 407November 27, 2021 10:52 AM

He's got a bit of explaining to do to Oscar about that ' a man of limited talent' remark.

by Anonymousreply 408November 27, 2021 10:56 AM

When Sondheim was 50 years old, his husband was born...Kinda creepy.

by Anonymousreply 409November 27, 2021 11:02 AM

Stop clutching your pearls, Mary R409.

by Anonymousreply 410November 27, 2021 11:08 AM

Didn’t Sondheim invent the phrase “everything’s coming up roses”? That phrase had a life outside of the musical Gypsy.

by Anonymousreply 411November 27, 2021 11:39 AM

Has Dame Angela commented yet ?

by Anonymousreply 412November 27, 2021 11:56 AM

She has asked repeatedly for her butterscotch pudding r412.

by Anonymousreply 413November 27, 2021 12:03 PM

R409 unless he was a minor when they started dating.....why?

by Anonymousreply 414November 27, 2021 12:04 PM

Lloyd Webber was gracious and duly awed about Sondheim's genius this morning on BBC radio. He mentioned that when 'West Side Story' first opened, the NYT review didn't once discuss the lyrics! LW observed that WSS was 'probably' the greatest musical ever. LW went to the most recent WE revival of 'Merrily' three times, seeing more on each visit. Charming little interview.

by Anonymousreply 415November 27, 2021 12:08 PM


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by Anonymousreply 416November 27, 2021 12:10 PM

Who but Angela Lansbury could make chiffonier a dirty word?

by Anonymousreply 417November 27, 2021 12:19 PM


Mr. Jerry Herman died in 2019... Please keep up!

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by Anonymousreply 418November 27, 2021 12:20 PM

Bernadette Peter's version of Not a day goes by stills breaks my heart.9

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by Anonymousreply 419November 27, 2021 12:23 PM

Lin Manuel is not a composer. He’s a rapper.

With the death of Sondheim, Broadway now becomes like opera. No longer new or relevant, it will only be barely capable of exhuming long dead creators in order to extract what few dollars it can from midwestern fraus. And I don’t expect that audience to last much longer. Broadway will be non profit in the next two decades, begging for corporate subsistence like the Met, relegated to six or so houses on 44th and 45th.

by Anonymousreply 420November 27, 2021 12:27 PM

Bernadette’s ridiculously self indulgent and teary version of Not A Day Goes By certainly breaks her own heart R419. I don’t know about the audiences.

by Anonymousreply 421November 27, 2021 12:28 PM

NYT archives of almost every review of late Stephen Sondheim's work.

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by Anonymousreply 422November 27, 2021 12:28 PM

Has Nathan Lane issued a statement?

by Anonymousreply 423November 27, 2021 12:30 PM

Wow, his husband is gorgeous!

by Anonymousreply 424November 27, 2021 12:32 PM

R421, broke mine at the very least.

by Anonymousreply 425November 27, 2021 12:33 PM

No hyperbole, he was one of the greatest songwriters of all time. His songs could live outside of musical theater and never be confined by that term "showtune." While none of his songs were commercial hit singles, at some point every singer of note in the 20th century recorded or performed one of his songs.

I always thought "Send In The Clowns" -- overwrought and tedious in the wrong hands -- was a joke song. But whenever his material met with a great interpreter it could knock the wind out of you. 91 was a long, fruitful life and he gave us sooo much. RIP.

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by Anonymousreply 426November 27, 2021 12:38 PM

I have no idea who he is since I am not that familiar with gay icons. I kind of like West side story and that is about it.

by Anonymousreply 427November 27, 2021 12:45 PM

Sondheim was a gracious and generous man. I imagine his last will contains many philanthropic gifts for the next generation.

by Anonymousreply 428November 27, 2021 12:49 PM

[quote] he was so long-lived, I'd be curious to know what felled him.


One day these bodies will just stop working, even without illness or injury. I hope to have great health for a long time, and to dine extravagantly with family, friends and loved ones, go to sleep and never wake up.

by Anonymousreply 429November 27, 2021 12:49 PM

Sondheim naturally loved words and word games of all sorts. So I can't resist repeating this topical fun fact I just learned: Omicron is an anagram for Moronic.

I've the feeling Sondheim - whose name is an anagram for Hedonism - would indeed have taken pleasure in the above.

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by Anonymousreply 431November 27, 2021 1:00 PM

According to Claybourne Elder, somewhere or other, the cast was told that his death was "easy" and his loved ones were with him.

by Anonymousreply 432November 27, 2021 1:02 PM

[quote] Mr. Jerry Herman died in 2019... Please keep up!

Take your own advice, considering we were told that two posts later at r333.

Do keep up!

by Anonymousreply 433November 27, 2021 1:10 PM

Where they came and where they went I was part of the event I was someone in a tree!

Godspeed, SS, and eternal thanks for scoring my life.

by Anonymousreply 434November 27, 2021 1:34 PM

R247 Must've been so hard for you to copy and paste someone else's thoughts, you fucking cunt turd brain.

by Anonymousreply 435November 27, 2021 1:35 PM

R435 sounds EXHAUSTED!

by Anonymousreply 436November 27, 2021 1:44 PM

[quote]Bernadette Peter's version of Not a day goes by stills breaks my heart.

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 437November 27, 2021 1:51 PM

R436 Fuck off/die. Janbot. Cunt. Turd brain.

by Anonymousreply 438November 27, 2021 1:58 PM

[quote]Lin Manuel is not a composer. He’s a rapper.

He has composed two of the biggest musicals of the last twenty years. And Hamilton was a landmark in musical theatre. Sondheim even knew that.

This is why Broadway threads are tedious, it's because you have eldergays who can't comprehend that an art form can change and expand with time. Who thumb their nose with derision over what "younger audiences" like because it isn't what you salivated over fifty years ago. They don't understand, and rather than simply admit that, adapt an air of thin moral superiority that doesn't hold up against an argument with any depth.

And the "He's a rapper" comment cements that. Another form of music you clearly don't get.

by Anonymousreply 439November 27, 2021 2:00 PM

I get why Lin Manual Miranda irritates the hell out of people (me too at times) but he’s extremely talented at weaving together different styles of rap, hip-hop, and past Broadway hits, like he did for different characters in Hamilton, building up layers of different references so that the musical was entertaining on its surface but also fascinating for people who have deep experience with the history of hip-hop (famously self-referential) and trends in Broadway musicals. Lumping all that into “he’s a rapper” says more about you than him or the music he writes.

by Anonymousreply 440November 27, 2021 2:05 PM

'With the death of Sondheim, Broadway now becomes like opera. No longer new or relevant, it will only be barely capable of exhuming long dead creators in order to extract what few dollars it can from midwestern fraus. And I don’t expect that audience to last much longer. Broadway will be non profit in the next two decades, begging for corporate subsistence like the Met, relegated to six or so houses on 44th and 45th.'

Oh, get over yourself. Broadway was here for many years before Sondheim and will be here for many years after. His latest offerings have all been financial flops. Only delusional Sondheim-philes believe in his deification.

by Anonymousreply 441November 27, 2021 2:15 PM

[quote] I have no idea who he is since I am not that familiar with gay icons. I kind of like West side story and that is about it.

Then why r427 are you on this thread, and why would you take the energy to write that, and why would you waste anyone else's energy to read it?

by Anonymousreply 442November 27, 2021 2:15 PM

What’s the Dennis Christopher story? I wanna know!

by Anonymousreply 443November 27, 2021 2:39 PM

I also would like to know.

by Anonymousreply 444November 27, 2021 2:41 PM

No one ever sang it better r296.

by Anonymousreply 445November 27, 2021 2:45 PM

[quote]It's always sad when someone you thought has been dead for years, only died today.

AKA the Mandela Effect.

by Anonymousreply 446November 27, 2021 2:49 PM

LMM wasn't fit to sniff Sondheim's farts. Everything he does is played out and derivative and catering to the lowest possible denominator. The only people who seem to consider Lin a visionary are those who haven't encountered any form of art before 2005.

Sondheim was a true original, a genius, and yes, the likes of him will never be seen again. It's not an "eldergay" thing to say. Just like the filmmaking of his era will never be seen again, the Broadway of his era is now nearly fully dead and gone. RIP.

by Anonymousreply 447November 27, 2021 3:05 PM

[quote] Wonder if he saw the final "West Side Story" cut.

Might be what killed him.

by Anonymousreply 448November 27, 2021 3:28 PM

1973 Tribute

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by Anonymousreply 449November 27, 2021 3:29 PM

What's the damned Dennis Christopher story, already?

by Anonymousreply 450November 27, 2021 3:32 PM

It's crazy to me that WSS was his only mainstream success, and that was mostly due to Bernstein's music.

by Anonymousreply 451November 27, 2021 3:32 PM

r343 did Webber write musical comedy?

by Anonymousreply 452November 27, 2021 3:36 PM

You don't consider GYPSY a mainstream success, r451?

by Anonymousreply 453November 27, 2021 3:36 PM

[quote]With the death of Sondheim, Broadway now becomes like opera. No longer new or relevant, it will only be barely capable of exhuming long dead creators in order to extract what few dollars it can from midwestern fraus. And I don’t expect that audience to last much longer. Broadway will be non profit in the next two decades, begging for corporate subsistence like the Met, relegated to six or so houses on 44th and 45th.

He was just a man. He hasn't had a new production since "Passion" in 1994 . "Passion" might have won awards and it might have gotten raves, it was indeed a flop running only 280 performances not counting 52 previews. So why would Broadway change NOW?

by Anonymousreply 454November 27, 2021 3:37 PM


Send in the clowns waa everywhere in the 70s and 80s.

by Anonymousreply 455November 27, 2021 3:38 PM

Passion got raves, r454?

by Anonymousreply 456November 27, 2021 3:40 PM

[quote]Why does everyone have to say he was the most talented person ever in their speeches? I think we are getting a tad carried away here with those claims. He had a narrow niche after all.

I agree, and I'm only a lukewarm fan, but he did create the template for modern musicals. He was brilliant but limited and because of that we have gotten a bunch of meh, from all the young composers who want to be just like him.

by Anonymousreply 457November 27, 2021 3:40 PM

[quote]This is why Broadway threads are tedious, it's because you have elder gays who can't comprehend that an art form can change and expand with time. Who thumb their nose with derision over what "younger audiences" like because it isn't what you salivated over fifty years ago. They don't understand, and rather than simply admit that, adapt an air of thin moral superiority that doesn't hold up against an argument with any depth.

As an elder gay I applaud this comment. Theater will die if left up to those elder gays, and others like them, who can't appreciate a broader display of genius relative to Sondheim's.

by Anonymousreply 458November 27, 2021 3:44 PM

[quote]You don't consider GYPSY a mainstream success, [R451]?

The songs were mainstream successes, but the movie wasn't.

by Anonymousreply 459November 27, 2021 3:45 PM

[quote]You don't consider GYPSY a mainstream success?

[quote]The songs were mainstream successes

Which were Sondheim's department, albeit he wanted to write the music too. Nonetheless "Gypsy" was good enough to Sondheim to afford him his Manhattan townhouse. 'The house "Gypsy" bought', as Sondheim said.

by Anonymousreply 460November 27, 2021 3:56 PM

Had no idea that little piece on the 1973 tribute even existed r449. Magic.

by Anonymousreply 461November 27, 2021 3:56 PM

R451, I would include Gypsy.

by Anonymousreply 462November 27, 2021 4:09 PM

[quote]The depth and breadth of Sondheim's contribution was enough for three lifetimes, and leaves us riches indeed to explore and savour. If there's a comparable genius at work in any other field, in his or her 'narrow niche', let's all know about it. As for now, Sondheim is rightly being mourned and celebrated, and will be for decades.

I think all of the celebrity Twitter eulogists could learn a lot from R388. Beautifully said.

by Anonymousreply 463November 27, 2021 4:11 PM

[quote]One day these bodies will just stop working, even without illness or injury. I hope to have great health for a long time, and to dine extravagantly with family, friends and loved ones, go to sleep and never wake up.

My father, who seemed perfectly fine on Saturday, never woke from his sleep on Sunday. I was the one who found him. (I was 10 at the time, I'm 56 now.) I think this is probably what happened to Sondheim. I agree it is the perfect way to leave this mortal coil.

by Anonymousreply 464November 27, 2021 4:15 PM

R449, I have a complete audio(soundboard) recording of that evening, which the double LP with the Scrabble cover omitted.

I'll be waiting for someone to post "Well, smell you!".

by Anonymousreply 465November 27, 2021 4:19 PM

He's sharp and vital (and doesn't sound like a 90 year-old man) on the commentary track for ORIGINAL CAST ALBUM: COMPANY, recorded for the Criterion Collection earlier this year.

People, including SS, are smoking in the sound recording room. They are even smoking whle singing. It's hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 466November 27, 2021 4:20 PM

Sorry for the apostrophe abuse. It should have read

[quote] Bernadette's Peter

by Anonymousreply 467November 27, 2021 4:22 PM

His coffin should be a music box..

by Anonymousreply 468November 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Or one of those hand cranked Jack in the Boxes.

by Anonymousreply 469November 27, 2021 4:28 PM

Or a sling.

by Anonymousreply 470November 27, 2021 4:30 PM

His battles with Turtle Bay neighbor Katharine Hepburn reportedly got rather fierce.

by Anonymousreply 471November 27, 2021 4:32 PM

r459 Seriously? Who cares about the movie -- the SHOW was and is one of the most successful and revived in the history of musical comedy.

by Anonymousreply 472November 27, 2021 4:33 PM

He also co-wrote the screenplay to one of my all time favorite films -- co-wrote with Tony Perkins, no less.

by Anonymousreply 473November 27, 2021 4:34 PM

R463, thanks so much for that, appreciated. I felt the need to make a small sincere tribute, and DL seemed the best place.

by Anonymousreply 474November 27, 2021 4:38 PM

I thought you were talking about the show in general being a main stream success, r459. If you're singling out the movie versions, WSS's success wasn't due to mainly Bernstein.

by Anonymousreply 475November 27, 2021 4:42 PM

R459 . . .

Gypsy (1962 film)

Box office performance — Produced on a budget of $4 million, the film grossed $11,076,923 at the box office, earning $6 million in US theatrical rentals.

by Anonymousreply 476November 27, 2021 4:43 PM

Well, smell you, R465.

by Anonymousreply 477November 27, 2021 4:43 PM

[quote] LMM wasn't fit to sniff Sondheim's farts.

Now there's an image I could have spent my entire happy never to have imagined.

by Anonymousreply 478November 27, 2021 5:24 PM

He did a piano duet with Andrew Lloyd Webber in a comic tribute to a producer. They appeared comfortable with each other.

Song starts at 1:01.

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by Anonymousreply 479November 27, 2021 5:31 PM

Jule Syne wrote the music to " Gypsy," not Sondheim, so it's not a Sondheim show.

by Anonymousreply 480November 27, 2021 5:31 PM

I’d consider Into the Woods a mainstream success given its popularity for middle school / high school theater productions. It’s right up there with Peter Pan, Fiddler on the Roof, Hello Dolly, etc.

by Anonymousreply 481November 27, 2021 5:33 PM

R481, only Act One. Many schools eliminate the second act.

by Anonymousreply 482November 27, 2021 5:39 PM

I don't know why the DL theater crowd feels they have to pit Webber and Sondheim against each other. Sondheim was almost 40 when Webber began his career. Webber probably was a fan of Sondheim and looked up to him for the genius and pioneer he was. Other then writing musicals they are in no way the same in how they approach their art. Why compare them?

by Anonymousreply 483November 27, 2021 5:40 PM

Hello DL'ers, how are you doing today? Could some DL person who knows Broadway please explain 2 things. Did Sondheim have a dungeon in his home and "WTF" is the Dennis Christopher story. Inquiring minds need to know. Thank You, Phillywhore. I don't know shit about Broadway, other than the fact that Eddie Windsor was a very good stagehand!!

by Anonymousreply 484November 27, 2021 6:02 PM

"Some people sit on their butts - got the dreams yea, but NOT the guts!"

I was startled as an eleven year old sitting in a small town movie theatre.......Rosalind Russell just said "butts!"

Thanks to SS for making butts acceptable in mainstream media!

by Anonymousreply 485November 27, 2021 6:12 PM

Was it natural causes?

by Anonymousreply 486November 27, 2021 6:19 PM

[quote]Jule Syne wrote the music to " Gypsy," not Sondheim, so it's not a Sondheim show.

1. Jule STYNE.

2. And Leonard Bernstein wrote the music to "West Side Story," which is what the person was claiming was Sondheim's only mainstream hit. So "Gypsy" is every bit as much a Sondheim show as "WSS" is.

by Anonymousreply 487November 27, 2021 6:20 PM

I'd like to say that the person who first brought up the Christopher/Sondheim story is a shit. I now assume there is none and I got so excited for nothing.

by Anonymousreply 488November 27, 2021 6:39 PM

I thought Funny Thing got him his townhouse. It was a big Broadway hit, he got royalties for both music and lyrics and it was sold to the movies. So it actually being Gypsy is news to me.

by Anonymousreply 489November 27, 2021 6:42 PM

Comments like R420's are so ignorant. Yes, Sondheim was God -a Greek pantheon-style god who made, and made room for, other gods. His passing will not be the death of Broadway nor of musicals. I don't think anyone in this thread has mentioned the brilliant work of Ahrens and Flaherty (Ragtime, Once On This Island, The Glorious Ones...) who are still around and very much in the Sondheim school. And we still have Maury Yeston (Nine, Titanic, Death Takes A Holiday) and people like Jeff Blumenkrantz, Pasek and Paul, Andrew Lippa, Michael John LaChiusa, Maltby and Shire, Tim Minchin, Jeanine Tesori... And what about Adam Guettel, and William Finn? None of them are Sondheim (and best don't try to be), but they have a voice and they might still have some of their best work in front of them.

As for Lin-Manuel Miranda, I suppose it's easy to hate him because he skyrocketed to fame and fortune -but he did so for a reason. In The Heights was fantastic theatre, and the first real successor to Jonathan Larson and RENT. He's already begun influencing a whole new generation of writers and composers. His Spanish translations for the revival of West Side Story were nothing short of brilliant. And he, like Larson before him, was embraced by Sondheim because Steve knew that theatre is a living, breathing form. It has to grow, develop, change, and continually reinvent itself. One theme that he repeated in interviews and lyrics was, "If no one gets to hear it it's as good as dead." No one wanted new stars of musical theatre to come along more than Stephen Sondheim did.

I treasure the times I spent with the man, and all the things he taught me. Any conversation became a master class. But now the king is dead, and we have to say "long live the king" because there will be another king -another dynasty. And this is one Eldergay who can't wait for him/him/them to come along -with or without trumpets.

by Anonymousreply 490November 27, 2021 6:49 PM

Personally, I would prefer trumpets.

by Anonymousreply 491November 27, 2021 6:51 PM

R488, Their paths never crossed professionally.

by Anonymousreply 492November 27, 2021 6:54 PM

SO whose social media lament has been the most insufferable? I’m nominating Melissa Errico who has still managed to make her every comment about him, about her.

by Anonymousreply 493November 27, 2021 7:00 PM

There's also David Yazbek and Robert Lopez, who've each written some fine musicals as well, but they don't get the press of Miranda. Yazbek, in particular, is a very funny and witty guy.

by Anonymousreply 494November 27, 2021 7:02 PM

Every day a little death...

by Anonymousreply 495November 27, 2021 7:02 PM

Always wondered how Errico seemed to pop out of nowhere to get cast on Broadway as Eliza in revival of "My Fair Lady". She's ok...

by Anonymousreply 496November 27, 2021 7:03 PM

What is so sad is that it really is the end of the line of Broadway greatness. He was the direct heir of Hammerstein and all the great men he had worked with and he also worked on two of the great classics of Broadway. A great bond has been permanently broken with his death. The talents that have come along since are very nice but that's about it.

by Anonymousreply 497November 27, 2021 7:06 PM

And she’s too precise and patrician to really be right for any Sondheim she’s tackled.

by Anonymousreply 498November 27, 2021 7:07 PM

A gay life well lived.

by Anonymousreply 499November 27, 2021 7:12 PM

John Kander ain't chopped liver with "Cabaret" and "Chicago" still being performed and many other great scores.

by Anonymousreply 500November 27, 2021 7:16 PM

Yes, R500, I would definitely say that John Kander is in Sondheim's league of great, legendary composers.

by Anonymousreply 501November 27, 2021 7:18 PM

My bad! Mea culpa. Mea maxima, maxima culpa... Don't know how I could have left out the wonderful David Yazbek from my rant. Or Robert Lopez, for that matter. I'm grieving, and clearly not thinking straight. The great John Kander is still with us, of course, but I'm not aware that he is still working (somebody correct me?).

I wasn't intending my list to be inclusive, so much as pointing out there are still some fabulous voices out there to be heard.

by Anonymousreply 502November 27, 2021 7:22 PM

Kander was still working pre-pandemic, about 2years ago, on some musical he co-wrote that was being done one of the theaters over near Union Square in NYC.

by Anonymousreply 503November 27, 2021 7:28 PM

I hear he was working on Golden Girls, The Musical at the end.

Saving the best for last.

by Anonymousreply 504November 27, 2021 7:31 PM

OK I'll give you Kander. And he's almost exactly three years older than Sondheim.

by Anonymousreply 505November 27, 2021 7:34 PM

What's interesting about Sondheim to me is that I've never listened to one of his musicals and loved it initially, but they keep me coming back and over time they become favourites. It's kinda nice because then you're always discovering new things. I remember not liking Into the Woods initially and actually really disliking Sunday in the Park with George, but now I really enjoy them both. His musicals are worth investing more time in, I find. Sweeney Todd is probably my favourite, Company has terrific songs, and the closing of Act 1 of A Little Night Music is probably one of my favourites in any musical.

by Anonymousreply 506November 27, 2021 7:35 PM

[quote] Mea maxima, maxima culpa...

Oh, what the hell does a Nissan have to do with this?

by Anonymousreply 507November 27, 2021 7:38 PM

[quote] and clearly not thinking straight.

I know the feeling.

by Anonymousreply 508November 27, 2021 7:38 PM

Among other living musical writers are Charles Strouse and Lee Adams, wrote "Bye Bye Birdie", the wonderful "It's A Bird, It's a Plane, It's Superman" and other musicals; plus Strouse wrote (with Martin Charnin) this other perennial called "Annie". Sheldon Harnick, also alive, wrote the lyrics to "Fiddler on the Roof", "She Loves Me", "Fiorello" and other wonderful shows.

by Anonymousreply 509November 27, 2021 7:40 PM

Did he do any non-musical writing other than THE LAST OF SHEILA and GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER?

by Anonymousreply 510November 27, 2021 7:41 PM

I think John Kander has a workshop of a new show coming up early in 2022.

by Anonymousreply 511November 27, 2021 7:52 PM

Strouse and Adams also gave us "Applause" with Lauren Bacall, and in her breakout role, DL fave Bonnie Franklin.

Strouse is 93 and Adams is 97!! Steve really did leave us early.

by Anonymousreply 512November 27, 2021 7:59 PM

I've been googling for the alleged Dennis Christopher story and so far only found this.

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by Anonymousreply 513November 27, 2021 8:00 PM

Sondheim was brilliant, but he wasn't necessarily successful. For instance, none of his shows were among the biggest in history.

Top-Grossing Broadway Musicals of All Time:

1. The Lion King $1.68 billion

2. Wicked $1.37 billion

3. The Phantom of the Opera $1.25 billion

4. Chicago $681 million

5. The Book of Mormon $659 million

by Anonymousreply 514November 27, 2021 8:00 PM

Here's the list of the top-grossing Broadway musicals in history. Sondheim is not on the list.

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by Anonymousreply 515November 27, 2021 8:02 PM

Walked by the Stephen Sondheim Theatre (AKA the Heim) this morning and there were only a few bouquets and a Virgin Mary prayer candle out front. I wanted to walk over to 8th Avenue and buy a ball gag to add to the remembrances but I didn’t have the time.

by Anonymousreply 516November 27, 2021 8:05 PM

And the bean counters have arrived

by Anonymousreply 517November 27, 2021 8:05 PM

Yes, r514 and r515, we know.

And McDonald’s sells more burgers than Minetta Tavern.

by Anonymousreply 518November 27, 2021 8:06 PM

He was successful by his own measure.

by Anonymousreply 519November 27, 2021 8:12 PM

No, he was successful by the measure of quality. Remember that? Good vs bad. It’s actually a thing.

by Anonymousreply 520November 27, 2021 8:20 PM

And that was his measurement. What are you so spiky about?

by Anonymousreply 521November 27, 2021 8:29 PM

Does anybody have the goods on the dungeon? He must have had non disclosure agreements out the wazoo.

by Anonymousreply 522November 27, 2021 8:34 PM

R403 has never heard of the opera.

by Anonymousreply 523November 27, 2021 8:34 PM

Either that, r522, or there was no dungeon. Why in the world do you care?

by Anonymousreply 524November 27, 2021 8:36 PM

Yeah, I’m thinking the dungeon stuff was made up or exaggerated.

by Anonymousreply 525November 27, 2021 8:38 PM

Right. Think handcuffs.

by Anonymousreply 526November 27, 2021 8:41 PM

Nobody of any worth is on that list except for Kander and Ebb.

by Anonymousreply 527November 27, 2021 8:45 PM

The apartment he lived in doesn't even have a basement.

by Anonymousreply 528November 27, 2021 8:47 PM

[quote]Here's the list of the top-grossing Broadway musicals in history. Sondheim is not on the list.

I'm willing to bet that if you added in all of the revivals of "Gypsy," it might make it onto that list.

And of course one needs to adjust for inflation.

by Anonymousreply 529November 27, 2021 8:48 PM

The apartment he lived in was a 4-story house. The ground floor is living space; there's a washer-dryer and a freezer in the smallish sub-basesment. But thanks for playing, r528.

by Anonymousreply 530November 27, 2021 8:51 PM

I wonder if Sondheim was ever a happy person. When your mother tells you that her biggest regret in life is having you how can you ever be happy?

by Anonymousreply 531November 27, 2021 8:58 PM

r531 I've worked through it. It helps to write a book.

by Anonymousreply 532November 27, 2021 9:01 PM

Yes, the "dungeon" is grossly exaggerated. Steve did enjoy S&M scenes -at least in his younger days with Tony Perkins. He also had a penchant for young twinks (chickenhawk, they used to say) and the assumption was that he loved to get rough with them -but that was mere assumption based on what he got up to with Perkins. The reason no one has come forward with lurid tales in all these years is that there were no unwilling participants -NDAs weren't a thing in the 60s and 70s.

Just my opinion now, but I think that R531 hits it on the head. His mother left him an emotional mess that took decades to sort out.

by Anonymousreply 533November 27, 2021 9:04 PM

[quote]there's a washer-dryer and a freezer in the smallish sub-basesment

So are you trying to say that he had a sling with a couple whips hanging between the washer and the freezer r530?

by Anonymousreply 534November 27, 2021 9:05 PM

[quote] The apartment he lived in doesn't even have a basement.

Was it a pizza place?

by Anonymousreply 535November 27, 2021 9:05 PM

r535 Yes, but there were two guys and no girl.

by Anonymousreply 536November 27, 2021 9:07 PM

^^Fookin brilliant!

by Anonymousreply 537November 27, 2021 9:12 PM

Right, r534. I'm saying there was a washer and a dryer and a laundry sink, and nothing else.

r531, I think he didn't begin to become a happy person until his mother's death. But I think he has been a happy person for a number of years.

by Anonymousreply 538November 27, 2021 9:13 PM

He had to wait until he was in early 60s until Monster Mom died.

by Anonymousreply 539November 27, 2021 9:19 PM

Is there an echo in here?

by Anonymousreply 540November 27, 2021 9:21 PM

[quote]When your mother tells you that her biggest regret in life is having you how can you ever be happy?

I don't understand the question.

by Anonymousreply 541November 27, 2021 9:22 PM

Sondheim's mother sounds as evil as Peter Lawford's mother.

by Anonymousreply 542November 27, 2021 9:23 PM

[Quote] Bernadette's Peter

Funnily enough, she actually is Peter's Bernadette.

by Anonymousreply 543November 27, 2021 9:38 PM

Has Victor Garber weighed in on Sondheim's passing anywhere yet? Wasn't he dating Sondheim around the time he got cast in "Sweeney Todd"?

by Anonymousreply 544November 27, 2021 9:38 PM

If he was, he's been very circumspect about it.

by Anonymousreply 545November 27, 2021 9:45 PM

I never liked Send in the Clowns. Weird song.

by Anonymousreply 546November 27, 2021 9:47 PM

He's actually a real theater actor; I don't think he's ever been as focused on the fame and publicity thing as much as the work though. But he's dated some cute guys over the years.

by Anonymousreply 547November 27, 2021 9:48 PM

R546 If you know if mainly through the Judy Collins version, which was a hit on the radio, it's possible to agree. Collins has a lovely voice, but sings it almost without any emotion or sense of what the song is about.

by Anonymousreply 548November 27, 2021 9:52 PM

Jake pays his respects.

[quote] jakegyllenhaal Verified: This picture of Mr. Stephen Sondheim, was taken during curtain call on the opening night of “Sunday in the Park with George.” I am grateful to have shared time with the master and maestro of American musical theater, and to have played his George. We have lost a giant. We will miss you. Rest In Peace.

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by Anonymousreply 549November 27, 2021 9:55 PM

I enjoy Anna Kendrick. Even if DL doesn't. Patti, Audra, Betty, BSM, NPH, Heather Headley, Bernadette, Donna and all the great ladies have paid him lovely tribute. Anna keeps her fresh. Nice.

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by Anonymousreply 550November 27, 2021 10:24 PM

An interview Patti did with Sondheim will be airing tomorrow on CBS Sunday Morning

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by Anonymousreply 551November 27, 2021 10:34 PM

This thread should be required reading for every DL newbie.

by Anonymousreply 552November 27, 2021 10:36 PM

Anna got to do this at 16, how many actresses can say that? And he did a cameo in the movie, so I assume he met most of the kids at that time.

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by Anonymousreply 553November 27, 2021 10:45 PM

Did Mrs. Bobby Lopez win the “most insufferable comment” award?

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by Anonymousreply 554November 27, 2021 10:48 PM

Let it go, R554.

by Anonymousreply 555November 27, 2021 10:59 PM

In college, I took a course on Sondheim and we all travelled to NYC meet with him. What an extraordinary day!

At the end of the course, I mailed Sondheim my final paper. He send me a lovely note about it, which I look at every now and again.

by Anonymousreply 556November 27, 2021 11:10 PM

R556 You’re not going to share what the topic of your paper was? I’m imaging something along the lines of the significance of the monkey in Sunday In the Park with George.

by Anonymousreply 557November 27, 2021 11:18 PM

R544, One evening in 1979, I was standing in line at the Uris Theatre box office to pick up my tickets for Sweeney Todd and overheard two very attractive young women in front of me tell the box office person that they were picking up Victor Garber's house seats for that evening.

by Anonymousreply 558November 27, 2021 11:19 PM

[quote] I think he has been a happy person for a number of years.

I can't hear any happiness in his lyrics nor his (non-melodic) music.

by Anonymousreply 559November 27, 2021 11:28 PM

I saw every Sondheim show I could, starting with the “Company” tryout in Boston, then again in New York. (I was very lucky to see Dean Jones both times!) Everything Sondheim wrote sticks with you. I saw all the original casts of his shows in New York, when I lived there, from 1972 to 1987, including the original Off-Broadway production of “Marry Me a Little,” with Craig Lucas. I’d get lp releases of his songs, just to hear previously unreleased ones. (The 1973 “Tribute” album was a revelation.) After I left New York, I’d come back and see his shows, like “Passion” and “Road Show.” When I lived in San Diego, I even saw that “Murder” play of his at the Old Globe.

I never saw him or met him. I got a ticket to see him in a concert presentation up in Irvine, CA, but his flight was cancelled because of a snowstorm.

There was always something so fascinating about him, about the way he saw things and described them. If I’d ever met him, I wouldn’t have known what to say, he impressed me so. I’m sure he would have been gracious.

I’m sorry he’s gone, but I’m glad he didn’t seem to suffer. Though he had a monster for a mother, he seemed to have transcended her, and made the best of his life. I’m glad he enjoyed it. More power to him.

But New York will never seem the same without the prospect of another new Sondheim show to look forward to.

by Anonymousreply 560November 27, 2021 11:44 PM

Forgot to say I also saw the original “Follies” twice, as well as the Equity Library Theatre production, in which a friend played Ben. The original will always be the best. No other can have the same perspective. Or extravagance.

by Anonymousreply 561November 27, 2021 11:50 PM

R557, in typical college mental masturbation fashion, the paper was about the Holy Trinity being reflected in the various social triangles in Sweeney Todd.

Yes, it was silly in retrospect and Sondheim even wrote in his note that he didn’t intend anything that I wrote about in my paper.

by Anonymousreply 562November 28, 2021 12:04 AM

I'd like to hear about the relationship with Victor Garber too. Garber was a real cutie in the late 70s, terrible hair aside.

by Anonymousreply 563November 28, 2021 12:12 AM

[quote] Yes, it was silly in retrospect and Sondheim even wrote in his note that he didn’t intend anything that I wrote about in my paper.

This is both hysterical and adorable at the same time.

And you’re cool for letting us know about it.

by Anonymousreply 564November 28, 2021 12:16 AM

[quote]His mother left him an emotional mess that took decades to sort out.

Whose mother didn't?

by Anonymousreply 565November 28, 2021 12:20 AM

I saw the original Follies twice when I was very young though not exactly being held on my mother's lap. I've told this story already but I don't care I'll tell it again. I had kept the original souvenir program in perfect condition and decades later he was giving a talk at the Guggenheim and I wanted him to sign the cover. I would then have it framed. After the talk he was speaking to Lauren and Betty and Adolf. There was a guy in front of me with an Into the Woods cd with the booklet out for him to sign. When there was a lull in the conversation he asked Sondheim if he would sign it. Sondheim suddenly turned on him and yelled at the guy in front of us all, 'I am not a commodity!' My friend and I looked at each other and got out of there. I am thankful there was that guy in front of me. That would have hurt.

by Anonymousreply 566November 28, 2021 12:20 AM

[quote] 'I am not a commodity!

How precious!

by Anonymousreply 567November 28, 2021 12:23 AM

I have it on good authority that either Angela Lansbury, Dorothy Collins, Lee Remick, or Hermione Gingold opened what she thought was a closet in Sondheim's house and saw a young boy hanging by a leather strap.

On. Good. Authority.

by Anonymousreply 568November 28, 2021 12:30 AM

MARY! me all you want, but a few days ago I had a dream where I was talking to an 80-something Lee Remick. When I brought up Sondheim she started to hurry off with her assistant. I hope that means she was ready to see her friend again.

Strange dreams aside, his work has gotten me through many difficult times in my life. Rest in peace, Stephen.

by Anonymousreply 569November 28, 2021 12:36 AM

Step aside, bitches. Let a diva show you how it's done. There's no faking those last notes. You either got 'em or you ain't.

Hit it, Earl!

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by Anonymousreply 570November 28, 2021 12:40 AM

[quote] I was talking to an 80-something Lee Remick.

That’s a lot of Remicks!

by Anonymousreply 571November 28, 2021 12:42 AM

I don't think your authority is very good because it happened to be Mary Rodgers who opened that door. Unless it happened to all of them at various dinner parties.

by Anonymousreply 572November 28, 2021 12:43 AM

[quote]I don't think your authority is very good because it happened to be Mary Rodgers who opened that door. Unless it happened to all of them at various dinner parties.

It was Barbara Cook. Or Elaine Stritch.

Or Beth Howland.

by Anonymousreply 573November 28, 2021 12:47 AM

Sondheim is non commercial. That’s why we like him.

by Anonymousreply 574November 28, 2021 12:56 AM

It was Ethel Shutta. Eddie Cantor told me.

by Anonymousreply 575November 28, 2021 1:02 AM

Those top notes need to be belted for maximum impact.

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by Anonymousreply 576November 28, 2021 1:10 AM

Has Julia McKenzie commented? Or Cleo Laine?

by Anonymousreply 577November 28, 2021 1:11 AM

I'd like to write a tribute to Stephen Sondheim, but so many others are more eloquent than I could ever be. I do need to say this: he was a great songwriter, of course, with a career envied by most composers and playwrights and poets. He was *the* great musical dramatist, perhaps the greatest there ever was. But ultimately, he was the most important person in theater in our lifetimes, comparable to Shakespeare. Yes, Sondheim is our Shakespeare. He is unequalled.

by Anonymousreply 578November 28, 2021 1:11 AM

Please don’t yell at me r576 but who is that?

by Anonymousreply 579November 28, 2021 1:13 AM

[quote] Sondheim is our Shakespeare

The pinnacle of the US cultural pantheon compared to the pinnacle of the British cultural pantheon.

by Anonymousreply 580November 28, 2021 1:20 AM

[quote]You’re not going to share what the topic of your paper was?

"A history of dungeons in medieval Europe."

by Anonymousreply 581November 28, 2021 1:26 AM

R576, "I'm Still Here" sung by Kim Criswell, matchless high notes.

by Anonymousreply 582November 28, 2021 1:27 AM

[quote]sung by Kim Criswell,

Has *SHE* commented on Sondheim's death? Sondheim hated her.

by Anonymousreply 583November 28, 2021 1:32 AM

How do you know this?

by Anonymousreply 584November 28, 2021 1:34 AM

Well, she retweeted this.

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by Anonymousreply 585November 28, 2021 1:42 AM

Criswell came in to audition for a revival of "Merrily We Roll Along." She told Sondheim what was wrong with the show. She never worked on Broadway again.

by Anonymousreply 586November 28, 2021 1:51 AM

No. She auditioned for anothe show and it was mentioned that they were reworking Merrily for a new production (in California, I think). Criswell said something like: "Good. The original didn't work." Sondheim thought her impertinent and called her agent to let them know.

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by Anonymousreply 588November 28, 2021 1:58 AM

[quote]Criswell said something like: "Good. The original didn't work." Sondheim thought her impertinent

Sondheim worked with Elaine Stritch, so you know he could handle impertinent women.

by Anonymousreply 589November 28, 2021 2:02 AM

Well, the "I'm not a commodity!" story illustrates that, like most people, it depends upon when you catch him.

by Anonymousreply 590November 28, 2021 2:06 AM

Goodbye Mr. Stephen Sondheim, thank you for being part of the sound track that is my life.

" Before my past once again can blind me, fly away..."

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by Anonymousreply 591November 28, 2021 2:16 AM

[quote]Strouse is 93 and Adams is 97!! Steve really did leave us early.

And John Kander is 94 and Sheldon Harnick 97 as well, both alive and kicking. What is it about longevity and American musical lyricists?

by Anonymousreply 592November 28, 2021 2:23 AM

R591 you’re kidding right? Good thing this thread is almost bajour

by Anonymousreply 593November 28, 2021 2:23 AM

We love Patti LuPone. Sondheim loved Patti LuPone. Patti and Bernadette Peters ARE Sondheim.

by Anonymousreply 594November 28, 2021 2:31 AM

But The Baker's Wife is NOT by Sondheim.

by Anonymousreply 595November 28, 2021 2:36 AM

Steve was alive and kicking at 91. Until he wasn't.

by Anonymousreply 596November 28, 2021 2:37 AM

I wonder if he sang "I am going to the Lordy" as he was leaving this world?

by Anonymousreply 597November 28, 2021 2:43 AM

Sondheim liked actors who could sing. LuPone and Peters don't qualify.

by Anonymousreply 598November 28, 2021 2:44 AM


Oh my! Thought it was, my faux pas!

Never mind then and carry on....

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Sexy ass Johnny Sibilly has a little thread going that y'all can participate in.

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Anyone can Whistle!

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