He could sing, he was cute enough, he had a top 40 hit.
Why Did Sam Harris Fail So Miserably
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 26, 2021 9:31 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 25, 2021 3:53 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 25, 2021 3:57 PM|
Because he was an on-site basic Queen to anyone with eyes. His clothes and hairstyle look like they were from flashy boutiques at the local gay strip. The music seemed like it was made for club DJs with mustaches, and the videos seemed designed to be played in popular gay bars. He wasn’t just GAY, he was boring, basic gay. Sure, he could sing. But…
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 25, 2021 3:58 PM|
He did fine.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 25, 2021 3:58 PM|
He was actually quite successful in his own way.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 25, 2021 4:00 PM|
I love Scham
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 25, 2021 4:01 PM|
I’ve never heard of him before but watching his entrance twirling into the nightclub in the music video, I can see how he may have been too gay to be mainstream.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 25, 2021 4:01 PM|
If Liza sang with him, that should earn him a free pass from the queens.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 25, 2021 4:03 PM|
And he seems too Broadway trying to be edgy.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 25, 2021 4:03 PM|
He ushered in the era of singers being judged by how loudly they can sing.
Any lack of success is pure and simple karma for his crimes
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 25, 2021 4:04 PM|
I love that Sam Harris was serving a song about lesbian cunnilingus to the middle American masses. "Going Down Makes Me Shiver" was written by Nona Hendryx and recorded by the group Labelle. Sam is basically imitating and emulating Patti Labelle.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 25, 2021 4:14 PM|
All I remember about him is his ridiculous version of Patti LaBelle's version of "Over the Rainbow." It had enough freak appeal to wow judges on Star Search, but the real world audience for that kind of thing is fringe at best.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 25, 2021 4:15 PM|
Because she was an obvious queen who, because he rose to fame as middle America's darling on "Star Search", couldn't lean into his queeniness, unlike, say, Sylvester or Boy George. He was stuck trying pass his flaming ass off as straight, as in the above-linked video. You can see how well he pulled that off.
Also because he made the brilliant move of signing to a dying label for black artists, Motown.
Also because his debut single was unlistenable garbage, which he sung poorly, and which barely squeaked into the top 40. Nobody needed or wanted to hear anything from him after he unleashed that piece of shit onto the public.
Also because in the early/mid 80's, a syndicated TV show such as "Star Search", as popular as it was (and give Sam Harris credit for a lot of that initial popularity, his appearances were very exciting to watch) was still seen as a bit 2nd-rate. It was still a "3 Major Networks" world, and anything else on TV automatically had a bit of a low-rent stink on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 25, 2021 4:16 PM|
I didn’t see the “Sam” part of your post and yet it still made sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 25, 2021 4:18 PM|
He was in Grease on Bway. He could have had a brighter Bway career but it didn’t go anywhere
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 25, 2021 4:19 PM|
He did have the hit: Sugar don’t bite
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 25, 2021 4:19 PM|
He could have won American Idol . Great voice
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 25, 2021 4:21 PM|
[quote] He was in Grease on Bway
Did he play Sandy, Frenchie, Rizzo or Principal McGee?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 25, 2021 4:22 PM|
Sam talking about the Minnelli/Gest nuptials.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 25, 2021 4:24 PM|
I think the unlistenable garbage is just a tweak or two away from being Madonna’s number one hit Papa Don’t Preach.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 25, 2021 4:27 PM|
But you listened to the whole thing, didn’t you now?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 25, 2021 4:31 PM|
The question should be "Who is Sam Harris?" instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 25, 2021 4:32 PM|
He was also a Tony nominee for "The Life."
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 25, 2021 4:35 PM|
His book Ham: Slices of Life was published several years back. It was an enjoyable, witty collection of stories.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 25, 2021 4:36 PM|
Publisched by Schimon and Schushtersh.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 25, 2021 4:38 PM|
maybe it was the atheism
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 25, 2021 4:43 PM|
Yeah, pretty obvious queen.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 25, 2021 4:48 PM|
[quote]which he sung poorly
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 25, 2021 4:49 PM|
I have an autographed CD cover of his. I can't be bothered to dig it out and find out which one.
As to why he failed, I leave you with "Sugar Don't Bite."
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 25, 2021 4:49 PM|
I've seen him live three times in smaller venues. He puts on one hell of a show. Tastes differ, but he is a sensational showman and sings a wide variety of songs in different genres, and does them all wonderfully.
Can't wait to see him again. I think he's tremendous.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 25, 2021 4:52 PM|
Because Motown had him recording material that was off brand for him. It was vaguely new-wavish/R&B-ish pop instead of R&B and big showy ballads.
It's funny looking back. As a HS kid I could not get enough of Sam Harris' uvulating. Never missed an episode of Star Search when he was on. Saw him live on tour where my friend and I slipped into his limo after the show and managed to say "Hi" before getting run off by security. Most of my theater friends and I eagerly anticipated and bought his album. I recall most of us were kind of disappointed in the material. It wasn't in line with the type of material he presented on Star Search week after week. Nonetheless, a group of us did an interpretive pantomime to "I Will Not Wait for You" in Theatre Arts. JFC.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 25, 2021 4:53 PM|
I was prepared to be impressed that a Broadway singing star found the time to become a neuroscientist and the guts to be open about atheism. Then I realized it wasn’t the same person. You fooled me r26.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 25, 2021 5:04 PM|
Sam in " Grease."
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 25, 2021 5:07 PM|
Always liked him, the voice and the persona. He was way too gay for his time though. It’s a shame, he had talent.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 25, 2021 5:17 PM|
The “other” Sam Harris is also the son of Susan Harris, creator, writer producer of Soap and Golden Girls.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 25, 2021 5:23 PM|
Saw him get naked in "Hair." Unfortunately, Marissa Jaret Winokur also got naked, and I've been blind ever since.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 25, 2021 5:24 PM|
Sam in jail for buggery.
No actually Sam in Joseph and the Technicolor Crapcoat
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 25, 2021 6:10 PM|
Short gay Jewish guy who sang like a black woman
Also a bit of a prick at the beginning. (Got nicer)
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 25, 2021 7:05 PM|
[quote]Did he play Sandy, Frenchie, Rizzo or Principal McGee?
Well he wasn't butch enough to play Rizzo
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 25, 2021 7:05 PM|
No poster, don't hold back, please tell us what you really think?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 25, 2021 7:06 PM|
I don't see Harris as anymore "queeny" than George Michael in the "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" video. Seriously did anyone watch that and then say 'Of course he's straight.'
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 25, 2021 8:08 PM|
I thought he was cute as a button,but his wailing got on my nerves very quickly. That being said,I have thought of him over the years .He was one of the first really blazing queens (though in the closet everyone knew) that I remember seeing on network tv. Liberace doesnt count.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 25, 2021 8:18 PM|
R37 I saw him in that production. I also saw him at The Rainbow Room.
Jeremy Jordan (Smash, Newsies) was obviously influenced by Sam
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 25, 2021 8:19 PM|
He was an early VLOGGER from way back. It really was a new thing back then.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 25, 2021 8:27 PM|
r38 Where did you get the idea he was Jewish? He's from OKLAHOMA, for God's sake.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 25, 2021 8:39 PM|
He never learned how to roll with the punches and in this business they come left right and below the belt.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 25, 2021 8:50 PM|
Because he sings with a HELIUM Voice!
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 25, 2021 10:29 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 25, 2021 10:45 PM|
Wow, very over-the-top. Great voice obviously but that song makes my ear bleed. And people complain about Patti, Whitney, Christina and Mariah being overwrought.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 26, 2021 3:28 AM|
[quote] Because Motown had him recording material that was off brand for him. It was vaguely new-wavish/R&B-ish pop instead of R&B and big showy ballads.
Motown was a shadow of itself in the 1980s. They severely mishandled Teena Marie's career and also the career of Vanity.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 26, 2021 3:32 AM|
[quote]Because he sings with a HELIUM Voice
Hey what's up with that?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 26, 2021 2:57 PM|
Madonna probably did listen to this and used the melody for Papa Don't Preach. It sounds suspiciously similar. It's not like Madge ever had artistic integrity. Or maybe Brian Eliot composed them both? So many 80s and 90s pop songs sound identical that I'm surprised there weren't more plagiarism lawsuits.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 26, 2021 5:28 PM|
[quote] He could sing
Like Ethel Merman, perhaps.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 26, 2021 5:32 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 26, 2021 5:33 PM|
Great voice, but his personality was probably too queeny for that time to ever have any major mainstream success. The even sadder part is that he'd probably not be queeny or weird enough to make it these days.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 26, 2021 5:44 PM|
His voice is good. The issue is the songs he was given on his solo career. Just terrible 80s shlock. He probably would have fared better in the 90s, doing those lite FM and adult contemporary ballads that Celine and Michael Bolton were doing.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 26, 2021 5:51 PM|
He was the Billy Porter of his time. In fact, they were both in that 90's revival of Grease together. They both seem like bossy bottoms so I doubt they hooked up.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 26, 2021 5:53 PM|
He played another queen-who-is-actually-straight in the short-lived CBS sitcom, "The Class", which starred John Bernthal, Jason Ritter, and Jesse Tyler Ferguson. 2006/2007.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 26, 2021 6:01 PM|
Maybe if he’d dolled up in outrageous gender-bending fashions and wore make-up he might have fared better as an obvious gay in the public’s eyes, a la Boy George, Pete Burns, Marilyn, etc. But that didn’t always work for every pop star.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 26, 2021 6:48 PM|
Releasing pop music in the mid-80s also put him in competition for radio-video play against at their prime Michael Jackson, Madonna, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 26, 2021 9:31 PM|