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The Harris Buttigieg Ticket

From an article on CNN.com today:

".... the 79-year-old Biden, despite wisely sending signals that he will seek reelection in 2024, may decide that he doesn't want to run three years from now. If Biden does run, as an incumbent, he has an advantage. But if he chooses not to, that doesn't mean Democrats are doomed.

A primary campaign between Harris and Buttigieg could pit two key Democratic constituencies against each other: African Americans, particularly African American women, and LGBTQ voters. The impact of that fight would be even worse if it began in 2023 and took over the second half of Biden's current term.

Fortunately, this is a problem that can be easily solved without either politician having to give up anything lasting. Harris and Buttigieg instead could agree that, if Biden does not run again, they would run together in 2024, with Harris the nominee for president and Buttigieg for vice-president. This could put an end to whatever feuding exists between them now, while giving the Democratic Party a very strong ticket in 2024 that would seem like a natural continuation of Biden's first term.

A Harris-Buttigieg ticket would showcase two dynamic politicians and represent the breadth and diversity of the Democratic Party, and indeed the whole country, while not veering too far left and alienating key swing voters who Biden won in 2020. This ticket would be balanced with regards to geography: Harris is unmistakably Californian while Buttigieg is from Indiana, and brings with him a deep understanding of the Midwest.

Harris would be 60 years old on Election Day 2024, while Buttigieg would be 42, so there would be generational balance there as well. Both nominees represent important Democratic Party constituencies -- Harris is an African American and Asian American woman, while Buttigieg is a gay man. This would help mobilize important parts of the Democratic base. However, both politicians are essentially moderates, so it would be hard for the Republican Party to effectively tar them as radicals, socialists or anything like that -- something they would undoubtedly try to do. During, and since, the 2020 election, the right wing has tried to paint Harris as being on the far left, but that attack never got much traction."

by Anonymousreply 38November 25, 2021 7:37 PM

I like them both but man would that be a losing ticket.

by Anonymousreply 1November 23, 2021 9:09 PM

Why it put the constituencies against each other with neither constituency voted for either candidate in the primary?

by Anonymousreply 2November 23, 2021 9:12 PM

The Democrats need to run two straight white men in 2024. The mob has spoken, this is not a progressive country.

by Anonymousreply 3November 23, 2021 9:13 PM

It seems like a lot of the tension between Biden and Harris is because of trying to keep the VP from looking like she’s too in charge or trying to leapfrog POTUS. The same thing would happen if Pete was in the VP spot to Kamala. All kind of hijinks happen when the VP is assumed to have their eye on the top job.

by Anonymousreply 4November 23, 2021 9:13 PM

Welcome back, President Trump

by Anonymousreply 5November 23, 2021 9:13 PM

No one like Kamala, if Biden does not run in 2024, I can guarantee you the Democratic nominee will be Gavin Newsom. And he will be president someday. I don't care much for him, but he has what it takes to be president.

by Anonymousreply 6November 23, 2021 9:16 PM

[quote] The Democrats need to run two straight white men in 2024. The mob has spoken, this is not a progressive country.

I would add moderate to that, I am not moderate, I am progressive but to paraphrase Trump, I like Political Parties that win. Having the ideal candidate in my eyes but losing does no good for me.

by Anonymousreply 7November 23, 2021 9:17 PM

The hag and the fag. Losing ticket! We're talking a Mondale-type loss.

by Anonymousreply 8November 23, 2021 9:20 PM

"The hag and the fag."

The red cap slogans really do write themselves don't they.

by Anonymousreply 9November 23, 2021 9:25 PM

Some IDIOT wasted his or her or its precious life energy typing out the asinine text at OP.

by Anonymousreply 10November 23, 2021 11:42 PM

What R7 said. As appealing as a Harris Buttigieg ticket might be, the political reality is much harsher.

by Anonymousreply 11November 24, 2021 4:39 AM

That ticket won’t win. Why is CNN reporting that Harris will bring in thr black vote when it reported recently 50% of black voters don’t like her. They didn’t support her in her run for president. A gay candidate won’t go over well with most of America. I agree — Mondale-style loss. Dems just don’t have the depth of candidates that Repubs have — not that the latter’s field is any good.

by Anonymousreply 12November 24, 2021 4:47 AM

There's no way middle America is going to vote a biracial woman and gay man into office. The Democrats need to run someone who can defeat Trump.

by Anonymousreply 13November 24, 2021 4:47 AM

That would be a losing ticket big time. The US isn't ready for such a diverse ticket.

by Anonymousreply 14November 24, 2021 4:47 AM

I thought the gays were mostly split between Warren and Sanders and black people liked Biden, which is why he wound up winning.

by Anonymousreply 15November 24, 2021 4:55 AM

Kamala and Pete 2024 = DISASTER....Two Losers...

by Anonymousreply 16November 24, 2021 7:14 AM

No, no, no. It's the DEMINGS-Buttigieg Ticket.

by Anonymousreply 17November 24, 2021 7:19 AM

No, no, no. It’s the Harris - Demings ticket.

Because the Democrats owe black women.

by Anonymousreply 18November 24, 2021 7:48 AM

Biden is running. We need a Biden Buttigieg ticket.

by Anonymousreply 19November 24, 2021 7:57 AM

Ah, Republican wank off fantasies.

They're always just a little bit if not entirely sick, aren't they?

by Anonymousreply 20November 24, 2021 8:01 AM

There MUST be a minority on the ticket if you want to bring the minority vote out---we learned that with Hillary's election day.

by Anonymousreply 21November 24, 2021 1:57 PM

R21 there needn't be. That's the big mistake. It only feeds into racism and whips up anti Dem votes.

What you need is PRO dem votes. Give the working class reasons to vote for the party and they will regardless of the color of their skin.

by Anonymousreply 22November 24, 2021 2:03 PM

Unplanned scenarios - What happens if Biden was unable to finish his first four year term? Harris obviously becomes president. Does the Speaker of the House become VP? Surely Harris-Pelosi would not be the Dem's ideal ticket heading into 2024.

by Anonymousreply 23November 24, 2021 5:32 PM

No, the new president chooses a new VP--like Ford did

by Anonymousreply 24November 24, 2021 5:38 PM

I like Pete, but he’s not ready for executive authority. Too inexperienced. He should be in the state department, learn something there and maybe run for senate, spend a few terms there, honing his skills on foreign relations then be Secretary of State then maybe run for president. Notice I said a few terms in the senate, 3 or 4 terms, not one and done like Hilary.

by Anonymousreply 25November 24, 2021 5:40 PM

[quote]No, the new president chooses a new VP--like Ford did

OMG!!! I hope she chooses Britney Spears!

by Anonymousreply 26November 24, 2021 5:46 PM

R25 Obama was not ready either by your condescending criteria.

by Anonymousreply 27November 24, 2021 7:23 PM

Harris is poison as she has no charisma, is not eloquent, cannot explain policies except isolated victimhood ones, says nothing about regular jack and jill workers or tax structure, is too reactionary, cannot connect to the working class, and offers nothing to the working middle classes.

There I said it from centrist country.

Harris needs a “family or health” excuse to bow out of 2024 as she is poison. Mayor Pete or Newsom or Klobuchar need to step up.

Harris is poison.

by Anonymousreply 28November 24, 2021 7:46 PM

R28, I agree with you 100% about Harris. It's encouraging that more people are seeing, or at least admitting, that she has a problem connecting with voters. I think a family or health excuse would be too transparent for bowing out, though. Ideally, I think Dianne Feinstein should retire early and Gavin Newsom should offer Harris her position.

by Anonymousreply 29November 24, 2021 8:00 PM

Most veeps do nothing and are forgettable. No shame in that. I just hope she stumps to the black base for Biden and the party and nothing else. That's her only strength.

by Anonymousreply 30November 24, 2021 8:06 PM

Agree with R28.

by Anonymousreply 31November 24, 2021 8:15 PM

I know I’m Midwestern-biased, but Klobuchar and Mayor Pete are popular in the Midwest. Even Gretchen Witmer is favorably looked upon. But centrist Klobuchar is my Midwestern family’s favorite. Amy is Amazing and connects.

Harris is poison. She would lose even against a Sarah Palin 2.0 Kristi Noem which I have no doubt will be on the GOP’s 2024 ticket as VP.

by Anonymousreply 32November 24, 2021 8:25 PM

Why didn't Biden choose Val Dennings as VP? She's smart and articulate as well as attractive.

R32, Kristi Noem will not be on the Republican ticket. Trump is too old and polarizing. Also made a lot of mistakes in most Republican's eyes. It will be DeSantis. Many other up and comers will balance out the GOP ticket.

by Anonymousreply 33November 24, 2021 9:17 PM

I don't think it makes much difference who's on the Dem ticket. Biden ran against the most disgusting man on the planet and barely won. The GOP will control both chambers in 2022 and by this date in 2024 a sea of red blood will be awaiting the inauguration.

by Anonymousreply 34November 24, 2021 10:40 PM

I don't doubt you r24. In my lifetime every appalling GOP administration has been Jaw droppingly worse than their previous. If what the country is doing was done by an individual, we'd call it self destruction, suicidal, and psycho.

by Anonymousreply 35November 25, 2021 1:35 AM

Hey Californians, does Gavin Newsom have what it takes to be on a national ticket?

by Anonymousreply 36November 25, 2021 6:42 PM

It's Gavin Newsom people.

by Anonymousreply 37November 25, 2021 7:01 PM

Her UNfavorable rating is just one percent lower than Mango Mussolini's 55%.

by Anonymousreply 38November 25, 2021 7:37 PM
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