They did a pretty good job showing the all-encompassing dominance of Jagged Little Pill the summer or 1995
Jagged: Alanis Morrissette Documentary
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 29, 2021 6:18 AM|
And Madonna gets a piece of it all
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 22, 2021 11:15 PM|
Ironic is an example of the song being much better than the video
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 22, 2021 11:20 PM|
I love that album so much, but I've grown less fond of Alanis herself over the years. She strikes me as very self-involved and a bit of a covert narcissist.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 22, 2021 11:35 PM|
She had a few hit songs after Jagged Little Pill but that was her peak
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 22, 2021 11:38 PM|
It's on HBO Max
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 23, 2021 2:15 AM|
[quote]Ironic is an example of the song being much better than the video
Stéphane Sednaoui directed the iconic "Give it Away" video for the Red Hot Chili Peppers which is a much better video.
But I like this one too. Her personalities talking to the viewer from different positions in the car, book ended by her filling her tank with gas and then running out at the end. It's so simple but for 1996 it was nominated for MTV Awards up the ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 23, 2021 2:28 AM|
Jagged Little Pill is referred to as the most successful female debut ever, but it was her third album
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 23, 2021 2:38 AM|
Great document of the 90s
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 24, 2021 4:58 AM|
I liked JLP back when it came out but it hasn't aged well at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 24, 2021 4:59 AM|
Her lyrics are cumbersome.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 24, 2021 5:43 AM|
All I Really Want is underrated
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 25, 2021 8:16 PM|
"We couldn't get signed. Everybody rejected us." Meaning major corporate labels rejected you. Doubt they contacted any independent record labels and they all rejected them.
Also, wasn't this her crossover to pop-rock sound? She was already popular in Canada as a dance-pop star.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 25, 2021 8:26 PM|
R2 Disagree. I actually like that video. Song is considered a joke nowadays. Since nothing she mentions as ironic is actually ironic.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 25, 2021 8:28 PM|
I was 16 in 1996 when "Ironic" (song and music video) reigned supreme. There was an English teacher who complained that there was nothing ironic in that song; it was just a bunch of bummers. For example, "a death row pardon too minutes too late" is not ironic, he said; it just sucks. Now, if the condemned person died of natural causes on the day of their execution, then that would be ironic.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 25, 2021 8:28 PM|
I used to listen to Ironic at Borders Music in Ann Arbor on headphones and look pensively around the store like I was in REM's "Everybody Hurts" video
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 25, 2021 8:33 PM|
I actually liked her less after watching the documentary. She seemed dull and she was a bit of an asshole when they asked why she didn’t have any women in her band.
And I question how much Glen Ballard factored in the writing of her early stuff since she’s never had an album like that since.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 25, 2021 8:39 PM|
She is partly to blame for the word "ironic" being misused. Don't even get me started on "per se" (or "per say" as the dumb people spell it).
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 25, 2021 8:39 PM|
[quote]She seemed dull and she was a bit of an asshole when they asked why she didn’t have any women in her band.
Perhaps she thought those men were more talented. Should she just hire women to fill a quota, even if they're not as talented?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 25, 2021 8:48 PM|
I didn't really like Uninvited or Thank You, but Hands Clean was Jagged Little Pill worthy
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 25, 2021 8:55 PM|
R15 Are you from Ann Arbor?
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 25, 2021 9:10 PM|
R18 but the way she answered it was lame - she should have a better stock answer ready for that question if she’s going to spout her feminist shit. Can’t have it both ways. And given the political climate these days - that question was obviously coming and the director asked it in a very non-threatening way.
And she didn’t say the men were more talented. She specifically said that didn’t hire females for the band because she had “bad experiences” in the past working with them. Which is a red flag if I’ve ever seen one.
The most compelling people in the documentary were the men. She was dull as a rock.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 25, 2021 11:28 PM|
Joining You. The MTV Unplugged version is really good, but I couldn't find a good version of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 25, 2021 11:44 PM|
Her burdens in life should be kept to herself,
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 25, 2021 11:54 PM|
This album I loved - I remember the harmonica intro. Can't believe my generation aged so damned fast.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 26, 2021 12:13 AM|
I never got into her, I smelled a poser
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 26, 2021 12:14 AM|
I worked at a Borders R15 ages ago at White Flint Mall in Maryland. I rather miss those stores.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 26, 2021 12:21 AM|
Loved the “Hands Clean” video!
The documentary is interesting; I don’t understand why Morissette has spoken out against it.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 26, 2021 2:42 AM|
R20 I went to school there. The Ann Arbor Borders was the very first Borders
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 26, 2021 4:07 AM|
Some women in the documentary said that it was always male journalists talking shit about Alanis, but I remember Tabitha Soren on MTV News being very condescending toward her and belittling her talent.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 26, 2021 4:12 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 26, 2021 4:20 AM|
I always wondered why she didn't go simply by Alanis? Alanis Morrissette was too cumbersome, IMO.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 26, 2021 4:24 AM|
Morrissette is a hot last name for an entertainer - and it's her real name
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 26, 2021 4:26 AM|
I thought Taylor Hawkins played to the cameras when he toured with Alanis and was bummed when he joined the Foo Fighters
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 26, 2021 4:32 AM|
"And every time I scratch my nails down someone else's back - I HOPE YOU FEEL IT!"
"WELL, CAN YOU FEEL IT?!"
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 26, 2021 4:46 AM|
R27 When did she spoke against it? The documentary had just been made and came out few days ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 26, 2021 9:18 AM|
She was a Canadian pop tart who cribbed and diluted Ani DiFranco's sound.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 26, 2021 9:40 AM|
For a minute I was wondering "What is Tiffany doing in this documentary?"
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 26, 2021 9:49 AM|
I was a kid when the album came out and I remember being obsessed with the hidden track at the end of the CD. I guess it would have been the first instance of a hidden track I ever came across, but as a child I felt like I was in on a big secret. The song seemed kind of 'naughty' too, with her talking about sneaking into his house and dancing in his shower and laying in his bed.
I have a lot of nostalgia for this era and will always like those songs but I do think the sound/look is dated. And I had a small crush on Taylor Hawkins too.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 26, 2021 11:24 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 26, 2021 7:42 PM|
I don't know why she would object to anything in the documentary when "Hands Clean" is owning up to a sexual relationship with an older man when she was underage:
If it weren't for your maturity, none of this would have happened Oh, this could be messy but You don't seem to mind, and Ooh, don't go telling everybody and Overlook this supposed crime
We'll fast-forward to a few years later and No one knows except the both of us And I have honored your request for silence And you've washed your hands clean of this
You're essentially an employee and I like you having to depend on me You're a kind of protégé, and one day, you'll say you learned all you know from me and And I know you depend on me like a young thing would to a guardian I know you sexualize me like a young thing would, and I think I like ya Just make sure you don't tell on me, especially to members of your family We best keep this to ourselves and not tell any members of our inner posse
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 26, 2021 8:24 PM|
I can't stand that deliberate dum-dum act that straight guys do like Taylor Hawkins when he says he had never heard the name Alanis before and didn't know how to pronounce it and kept saying 'Atlantis'
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 27, 2021 4:37 AM|
I almost didn't recognize Alanis at first. Wow. She became a frau.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 27, 2021 4:42 AM|
I assume Hands Clean is about the older manager in "Jagged" she seems unusually close to before she moved to LA
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 27, 2021 4:49 AM|
[quote] I assume Hands Clean is about the older manager in "Jagged" she seems unusually close to before she moved to LA
I hope not, that dude was old, fat and fug.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 27, 2021 6:25 AM|
She was overrated.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 27, 2021 6:33 AM|
R41 I think that guy is genuinely dumb.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 27, 2021 9:45 AM|
As noted above, she was already an industry product, so Jagged Little Pill was just another iteration of that, regardless of what is claimed. Hope they covered that. I’ve always been annoyed by her “cool alt chick” schtick so I prob won’t be watching this.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 28, 2021 3:09 PM|
I genuinely do not remember Alanis being a HUGE teen pop star in Canada (I'm a Canadian!!!) and used to watch MuchMusic all the time. Her popularity as a "pop star" up here always seems oversold to me. Unless, I just never watched MuchMusic when her videos were on.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 29, 2021 6:18 AM|