Bow before us, cises.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||November 26, 2021 8:42 PM|
Is that me?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 21, 2021 5:43 PM|
But of course a trans actor should be free to play any role.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 21, 2021 5:44 PM|
The explanation is LITERALLY VIOLENCE:
Yet, as trans writer Jen Richards said in the Netflix documentary Disclosure, cis men playing trans women distorts what it means to be trans.
“Having cis men play trans women, in my mind, is a direct link to the violence against trans women,” she said.
“And in my mind, part of the reason that men end up killing, out of fear that other men will think that they’re gay for having been with trans women, is that the friends – the men whose judgement they fear of – only know trans women from media, and the people playing trans women are the men that they know.
“This doesn’t happen when a trans woman plays a trans woman.”
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 21, 2021 5:45 PM|
It was a mistake. It’s anti-gay propaganda.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 21, 2021 5:49 PM|
Oh for Pete's sake, you need a star to open a film. I don't want to see some trans amateur struggle through a role. Hollywood hires Brits because they're more professional than American actors.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 21, 2021 5:54 PM|
I'm sorry but this whole only gay people should play gay roles or only transfolk should pay trans roles is just stupid. Aren't they actors, aren't they supposed to play things they are not?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 21, 2021 5:54 PM|
Count your blessings and make lemonade, you sniveling Ginger.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 21, 2021 5:55 PM|
A showbiz story involves his collaboration with Laurence Olivier on the 1976 film Marathon Man. Upon being asked by his co-star how a previous scene had gone, one in which Hoffmann’s character had supposedly stayed up for three days, Hoffmann admitted that he too had not slept for 72 hours to achieve emotional verisimilitude. “My dear boy,” replied Olivier smoothly, “why don’t you just try acting?”
It's a skill; it's called "acting."
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 21, 2021 5:58 PM|
I suspect he has little to no investment in this. What he does have interest in is keeping his name out there for his current role of the Emcee in Cabaret in London.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 21, 2021 6:08 PM|
they really won't stop until everyone's miserable.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 21, 2021 6:11 PM|
[quote]"Having cis men play trans women, in my mind, is a direct link to the violence against trans women,” she said.
There is no violence against trans women. They're the safest demographic in the UK.
Maybe it's bad in Brazil, where they're all prostitutes and it's part of the job. That's what skews the world statistics. It's why when trans orgs quote statistics they usually use percentages or worldwide figures, because if you look at the actual numbers there is no need for a trans day of rememberance, not even a trans minute of remembrance.
[quote]"And in my mind, part of the reason that men end up killing"
Because they're men. Killing other men. Men commit most violent crimes. Far more than women.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 21, 2021 6:23 PM|
Isn't acting make believe? Shouldn't an actor be able to play any part within reason?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 21, 2021 6:26 PM|
R6 the people whining about it are almost always trans actors. They want the roles for themselves and know they likely won't get the roles unless they can somehow bully their way into them.
Because otherwise you reach a point of absurdity. Only disabled actors can play disabled, only actors with mental illnesses can play characters with mental issues (also applies here), only left-handed people can play left-handed characters, etc.
It's stupid because the various minorities are getting representation anyway by the fact that there is a character that represents their issues. Limiting this to only actors with that specific issue means that people will write less roles for those types of people because the available slate of actors is too small.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 21, 2021 6:28 PM|
That little shit had no problem filming Fantastic Beasts 3 with that serial-killer of black transwomen of color J.K. Rowling. I fucking wonder why.
But he was perfect for the Danish Girl since he has no balls.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 21, 2021 6:37 PM|
He could pass as a trans easily due to his androgynous features.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 21, 2021 6:39 PM|
This is as annoying as saying only gay actors should play gay roles. Ludicrous!
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 21, 2021 6:44 PM|
So, when are gay actors going to be asked to stop playing straight roles?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 21, 2021 6:56 PM|
Here's the truth, the movie would not have found founding if it didn't star a known actor. Long story short, it wouldn't have been made otherwise.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 21, 2021 7:30 PM|
His completely colorless lips disturb me.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 21, 2021 7:44 PM|
[quote]“Having cis men play trans women, in my mind, is a direct link to the violence against trans women,” she said
Funny, I always thought prostitution was the direct link. To each their own.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 23, 2021 7:06 AM|
It was a boring movie anyway. Only remember seeing his pubes.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 23, 2021 7:11 AM|
I forgot how unattractive he was
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 23, 2021 7:14 AM|
Most MTF I encounter look like cis men cos playing as trans women so who would know the difference anyway?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 23, 2021 7:22 AM|
Maybe they assumed he was when they cast him given how unappealing he is.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 23, 2021 7:25 AM|
Idk how you could cast a trans actor because if you did then you'd be saying they are trans and not the woman they claim they were born as and therefore a terf.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 23, 2021 7:29 AM|
If a movie or show depicts someone in the process of transitioning and casts a trans actor, isn’t forcing that actor to portray the sex they were assigned at birth a form of violence?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 23, 2021 7:32 AM|
Yes, Jen Richards. It IS in your mind. R3
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 23, 2021 7:34 AM|
Not one actor is "Cats" was a cat.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 23, 2021 7:34 AM|
I can't stand the sight of him, so I haven't seen anything he's in.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 23, 2021 7:38 AM|
I thought he did a bloody good job. After all it is 'acting'...he was soooooo soft and gentle in the role. Candis Cayne or Jamie Clayton would have been pretty hash sounding and looking I feel.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 23, 2021 7:58 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 23, 2021 8:01 AM|
Is the film any good?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 23, 2021 8:12 AM|
It was not a movie, it was propaganda. Serves him right for kicking Rowling in the face while making money from her brainchild, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 23, 2021 8:21 AM|
Did he attack Rowling?
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 23, 2021 8:30 AM|
R33 quite right, I thought it was very nasty how he spoke against Rowling. And he wouldn't be saying this shit if he'd won the Oscar for this role
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 23, 2021 8:34 AM|
So by this thinking were G and Janet McTeer miscast in Albert Nobbs?
I mean they were trans women with no access to treatment, surgeries etc.
Who should have played those roles?
It has gotten so confusing people will just stop telling trans stories. That movie that Scarlet Johanson quit over Trans furor just never got made I think.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 23, 2021 8:38 AM|
He was good for a change on that role, because Trans tend to be campy too. I always thought he looks FTM anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 23, 2021 11:04 AM|
[quote]Hollywood hires Brits because they're more professional than American actors.
No, it's because Hollywood is run mainly by liberals and they have a hard-on for Brits, for some reason. In fact, the farther left you are politically the more Anglophilic and anti-America you are. It's weird. That's why I don't trust the far-left in politics. They have the potential to be Benedict Arnolds. This has never been truer than now (or within the past 10-15 years) when Hollywood shifted the farthest left it's ever been. You never saw so much British casting in Hollywood films until the late 2000s and 2010s. Moderates and the right (who tend to be the most patriotic) would never allow this if they were currently in charge of the entertainment industry.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 23, 2021 11:46 AM|
Eddie flashed his cock in the movie, though, which may have been tricky for a trans actress (also the character is male-presenting for at least half the movie).
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 23, 2021 11:59 AM|
He didn't even show all of it R39, just a hint of cock!
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 23, 2021 1:33 PM|
I always thought Eddie was trans
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 23, 2021 1:44 PM|
It was not a mistake. It was a challenging role that he portrayed amazingly. One doesn't need to be that category of sexuality, race, ethnicity, political affiliation, handicap, etc. to play a role. This extreme political correctness shit is having serious blow-back in all parts of life.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 23, 2021 2:01 PM|
If you are making a movie it must be about and only star trans. If at any time the trans star isn't on screen then everyone in screen needs to be talking about and praising the trans. When the trans returns everyone must cheer and thank the trans.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 23, 2021 2:07 PM|
It’s a shame he feels the need to apologize because he brought great dignity and sensitivity to the role which probably helped rather than hurt the trans community.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 23, 2021 2:14 PM|
At what age did he fall into a bonfire and do such terrible damage to his "skin"?
Asking for a burn-victim friend, who has had much better restoration work.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 23, 2021 2:19 PM|
Jen Richards is a PERFECT example of the fucking insanity in Hollywood right now. She has jobs on very high profile projects. And why? Because she’s trans. That’s it. It is just beyond. People have lost their minds giving these gender terrorists thrones they didn’t earn.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 23, 2021 2:28 PM|
Gender terrorists is a great term!
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 23, 2021 2:43 PM|
He should have just said “I identify as non-binary gender nonconforming trans” and all would have been forgiven.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 23, 2021 2:50 PM|
Funny I just thought he was an actor playing a part? People who advocate for this whole only gay people should play gay parts, only trans folks should play trans roles etc. are going down a slippery slope. What they are equally arguing is that only straight actors should play straight roles baring gay actors for straight roles, or baring trans people from playing non-trans roles etc.
The reality is, if well known actors didn't take on gay roles or trans roles etc., we'd barely be represented because they wouldn't make these types of films. Hollywood is a business they are there to make money. Their investors put in a shit load of money and want a return, so the studios are going to do all they can to make a profit and that includes hiring "names."
Now, I'm all for greater diversity among performers but what they are calling for will actually limit the amount of work available to LGBTQ+ actors. Rather than having more actors come out, I would think this would keep straight-appearing actors in the closet to avoid limiting the range of work they can take.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 23, 2021 4:48 PM|
The star power of Laverne Cox will save your Hollywood blockbuster movie about trans Nazi sympathizers!
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 23, 2021 4:50 PM|
^ really, I have my doubts!
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 23, 2021 5:17 PM|
They better watch themselves or “trans” stories won’t be told. In stories like the film that ER starred in it tells the story of a “cis” man who transitions. Wouldn’t it be literal violence to expect a “trans woman” to play a role in which she would have to appear as her “dead” self? Or can such stories only be filmed starring a trans actor that hasn’t transitioned, and then shut down production until they transition to finish filming?
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 23, 2021 5:38 PM|
I don't really care to see any trans stories. I'm not interested in such conflicted tales.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 23, 2021 5:52 PM|
Still waiting for Caitlyn Jenner to apologize for competing as a man in the Olympics when she knew that she was really a woman inside. A cis man should have been able to do that in her place.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 23, 2021 5:54 PM|
Isn't the idea of white actors playing black roles the ultimate taboo?
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 23, 2021 6:00 PM|
Yawn, you guys bitch and mosn about straight guys taking all the gay roles. Why not give trans actors a chance?
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 23, 2021 6:04 PM|
Billy Porter IS Bruce Jenner in "Caitlyn's Serial Box!"
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 23, 2021 6:29 PM|
[quote]Why not give trans actors a chance?
Because advanced cases of gender dysphoria and the mayhem they cause by not being treated properly by mental health experts are not by themselves anything but dull and depressing. If the trans person is just some supporting character, like a supportive work friend who everyone likes, nobody would believe it, because that never happens irl.
Plus it's super distracting looking at a non-passable person acting like they're passing, with everyone around them pretending they believe the gender appropriation.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 23, 2021 6:31 PM|
[quote]And in my mind, part of the reason that men end up killing, out of fear that other men will think that they’re gay for having been with trans women
Jen Richards' (quoted by R3) perfectly illustrates the inherent homophobia underlying trans.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 23, 2021 6:37 PM|
R52 I never understood that either. How can a trans actor be anything but severely limited?
Like actors are generally narcissistic so I guess trans actors would fit in fine, but then add the crazy on top of that and I don't know why anyone would want to hire them except if they thought they needed performative woke points.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 23, 2021 7:48 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 23, 2021 8:47 PM|
I haven’t seen the movie, but why couldn’t he simply say this was a fascinating character and as an artist I was excited to explore that. Is that so wrong?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 23, 2021 8:56 PM|
The "trans ally" bit is a PR move by struggling actors who are trying to enhance their profiles. Since he played trans, he was banking on getting that benefit, however the trans now don't want non trans to play trans characters, so his goodwill among those people went out the window.
He was trying to hang onto it by decrying JK Rowling when she first spoke out, around the time Fantastic Beasts 2 was coming out. But that wasn't enough - it is never enough for the trans activists.
Hence this groveling apology. He should just give it up already and shift focus to banning fox hunting or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 24, 2021 1:46 AM|
R63 That's kind of funny. Quite a pretzel he got twisted into.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 24, 2021 4:28 PM|
Actors need to stop apologizing.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||November 24, 2021 4:32 PM|
What's never mentioned is the FACT that the real life character played as trans in the movie was actually intersex. And he did not have a doting wife but a wife who was a lesbian. Puts a whole different spin on the story.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||November 24, 2021 4:51 PM|
That movie was boring as shit and made me kind of not like Eddie however you spell his last name. Strangely, I LOVE the Fantastic Beasts stories. I guess because they are visually stunning and I tend to like backstories, stories that explain the originals. Also, autistic people make me uncomfortable, so it's weird that I don't hate Eddie's character in FB.
Wasn't it on this board that we were discussing The Queen's Gambit, and how that random music teacher was distracting because we couldn't tell if she was supposed to be trans or not? Or did I read that somewhere else? That's just an example of how trans actors can be distracting in roles.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||November 24, 2021 4:58 PM|
Actors are highly emotional by nature, that's why they do this shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||November 24, 2021 5:09 PM|
No, Redminge along with those other woke Potter actors threw JK to the dogs to get some woke points, never mind that the woman had an actual point.
As many have said, this militia will never feel you've done enough. I feel bad for the minority of real trans people who are being "represented" by this group.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||November 24, 2021 6:11 PM|
We are our own worst enemy when it comes to these issues
|by Anonymous||reply 70||November 24, 2021 6:12 PM|
Give the fools their tar tar sauce.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||November 24, 2021 6:14 PM|
Eddie says- Pretending to be STRAIGHT in my real life is a mistake.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||November 24, 2021 6:15 PM|
Now that he's admitted to being at fault, he must do MORE! Otherwise it's meaningless!
Special bonus: Take a look at the author, "Tabby"
|by Anonymous||reply 73||November 26, 2021 7:23 PM|
Stunning and brave...
|by Anonymous||reply 74||November 26, 2021 7:25 PM|
At this point they won't be happy until he transitions
|by Anonymous||reply 75||November 26, 2021 7:25 PM|
Tabby's latest tattoo!
|by Anonymous||reply 76||November 26, 2021 7:27 PM|
The movie was about a biologically born male who, as we say today, "identifies" as female and goes through the transformation of becoming female. Why is a trans actor any more deserving of this part, if more than half of the movie is about the male's struggle to change his sex and he's physically still a man?
Redmayne's groveling is indeed an embarrassment.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||November 26, 2021 8:32 PM|
I can see why a white actor playing an asian, black etc. and vice versa might be offensive, where it involves an actor playing outside of their phenotype. But there is no such thing as a trans (or even gay) phenotype. Every cis person is potentially a transperson in the early part of their "journey".
|by Anonymous||reply 78||November 26, 2021 8:42 PM|