When will the insanity end?
‘Grease’ is the next to go
|by Anonymous||reply 110||November 27, 2021 1:07 AM|
Well it takes place in the 50s...and it's kind of a big joke...
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 18, 2021 2:41 AM|
I didn't realize that Australia had gone woke.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 18, 2021 2:45 AM|
Sandy shouldn't have had to dress like a hot tramp in heat to get a guy
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 18, 2021 2:47 AM|
R3 You know, you kids have NO respect for the classics.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 18, 2021 2:51 AM|
I always thought Sandy's transformation was her idea. If she was really trying to fit in, she'd end up dressing like one of the Pink Ladies.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 18, 2021 2:51 AM|
People need to wake up oppose the woke!
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 18, 2021 2:54 AM|
People forget that Danny also went out of his way to change for Sandy, even attempting to become a jock. At the end he's sporting a letterman jacket.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 18, 2021 2:55 AM|
If I was Sandy's father, I'd drag her on the next plane back to Australia as soon as she came home dressed like that
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 18, 2021 2:56 AM|
I liked how she was waering Candies and spandex and it was supposed to be the 50s.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 18, 2021 2:59 AM|
I've never heard any actual woman complain about sexism in Grease. It's like being against Roots because it has slavery in it. It is of its time.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 18, 2021 3:19 AM|
OP- Kenickie looks quite doable in that photo.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 18, 2021 3:22 AM|
You better shape up...
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 18, 2021 3:32 AM|
In the actual context of the 1950s, Sandy changing herself to be a leather wearing tough girl would be seen as empowering. The good-girl "Sandra Dee" image was in line with the idea of the subservient, docile ideal woman. But of course history doesn't matter to these people.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 18, 2021 3:35 AM|
Great point R13. History doesn’t matter to these people and neither does subtext.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 18, 2021 3:43 AM|
I love Rizzos song about being a slut
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 18, 2021 4:36 AM|
There are worse things I could do..
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 18, 2021 4:47 AM|
Leave my goddamn movie alone.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 18, 2021 4:48 AM|
Damn. And Olivia is Australian royalty.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 18, 2021 3:08 PM|
Lourdes Leon as Rizzo in high school. Singing better than her mom ever did. I wish she’d gone this route instead of…well, whatever the Hell she’s doing.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 18, 2021 3:16 PM|
Lourdes did better than I expected. That was my first time to hear this. Thanks for posting!
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 18, 2021 10:24 PM|
Thank goodness I was in the sequel.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 18, 2021 10:30 PM|
Before all the anti-woke people get too far...
It's some indeterminant amount of Australian children AND it's about their doing a stage production.
It's not about the movie.
And it's not "woke libruls" in the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 18, 2021 10:34 PM|
What are we going to have left to watch?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 18, 2021 10:38 PM|
[quote] What are we going to have left to watch?
Are you in Perth, Australia, with only access to high school productions for entertainment?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 18, 2021 10:41 PM|
R9 that fact makes me laugh every time I watch the movie. Olivia was sporting the then red hot (circa late 70s) Candie’s spiked slides and some version of spandex clothing in a movie that was supposed to be taking place during the 1959-1960 school year. Plus, songs like “You’re The One That I Want” were written specifically for Olivia by her close collaborator, song-writer and record producer, John Farrar. The sound of that track was 1979 not 1959!
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 18, 2021 10:52 PM|
[quote] It's like being against Roots because it has slavery in it.
And now I’ve got my eye on you!
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 18, 2021 11:00 PM|
OMG!!!! TWO SCHOOLS IN AUSTRALIA MIGHT NOT MOUNT A FIFTY YEAR OLD MUSICAL! INSTEAD THEY MIGHT DO ANOTHER MUSICAL!!!! AHHHHH!!!! IT'S JUST LIKE STALIN OR MAO OR HITLER OR SOMETHING!!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 18, 2021 11:01 PM|
The OP should've entitled the thread "Grease Is NOT The Word"
Sorry you fail in life as a real datalounger.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 18, 2021 11:03 PM|
This movie came out when I was in high school and I HATED IT. Sexist & stupid, with old fucking people playing high school kids, the awful songs playing on the radio so it was inescapable...I still hate this POS.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 18, 2021 11:06 PM|
Ohhhh I loved the movie as a kid. Loved it, loved it. Still love it to this day.
But then I saw the musical (in London of all places) in 95 or 96 and I remember thinking that the original lyrics were pretty filthy, but not in a good or fun way and the production was just meh. So yeah probably best that the kiddos do Bye Bye Birdie instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 18, 2021 11:19 PM|
R29 types old.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 18, 2021 11:26 PM|
Who will think of the Perth Australian children?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 19, 2021 11:52 AM|
Even though I always despised that stupid movie. I saw it at an inappropriately-young age (thanks to my cousin), and I thought it was the coolest thing. I apparently didn't understand 90% of it, because I saw it later and realized how stupid and bad it was.
However, it's still stupid to cancel it. Just don't watch it if you don't like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 19, 2021 12:01 PM|
Damnit this is where I draw the line. My mom took me to see it at 11 years old and I just loved the music and thought Sandy was pretty and Danny was handsome, the perverted parts went over my head. It is one of my favorite movies, has great memories for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 19, 2021 12:03 PM|
[quote] Damnit this is where I draw the line.
No one is taking away the movie, dingus.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 19, 2021 12:04 PM|
Grease is lame.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 19, 2021 12:06 PM|
Lourdes did a great job
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 19, 2021 12:09 PM|
[quote]Lourdes did a great job.
Not much of a stretch playing the town whore who might be knocked up.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 19, 2021 12:27 PM|
I cannot believe how stupid Dataloungers have become.
R22 very sensibly points out that this has NOTHING to do with the movie or even the U.S. and seconds later R23 acts as if the movie has been banned forever.
Multiple people have pointed out repeatedly it's not about the movie, and yet multiple others keep saying it IS.
This is like that Gone With the Wind hysteria where the movie was off HBO Max (but no other platforms) for something like 20 days while they created a new intro for it. To this day people on DL still say the movie has been banned and censored!
Complete, unabashed idiocy. Some of you should be fucking ashamed of your stupidity.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 19, 2021 12:31 PM|
My school's drama teacher said the same thing back when I was in high school. She refused to considerate for production due to Sandy changing herself for a man. It's obviously not a new criticism.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 19, 2021 12:32 PM|
No customer would go to you unless she was a hooker!
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 19, 2021 1:20 PM|
[quote] IT'S JUST LIKE STALIN OR MAO OR HITLER OR SOMETHING!!!!!!
Your heroes, R27?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 19, 2021 1:41 PM|
Let's not forget the car, Greased Lightning. It was a "real pussy wagon"!
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 19, 2021 2:06 PM|
Could it be the teen pregnancy?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 19, 2021 2:53 PM|
R44 We did a production of Grease at my suburban high school (I played the guy who dated the chubby girl) and the pregnancy plot was cut entirely.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 19, 2021 3:05 PM|
R42 doesn't remember who fought who in WW2.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 19, 2021 4:46 PM|
[quote]due to Sandy changing herself for a man.
In the woke version, Sandy changes herself INTO a man.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 19, 2021 6:25 PM|
You Klan Grannies will grasp on to any bullshit story to get your outrage boner.
It'd be funny if it didn't lead to book burnings.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 19, 2021 10:34 PM|
[quote]You Klan Grannies will grasp on to any bullshit story to get your outrage boner.
There are worse things we could do.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 19, 2021 10:40 PM|
Adrienne sang "Love Potion #9" at her audition.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 19, 2021 10:44 PM|
Tell me about it, Stud!
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 19, 2021 10:44 PM|
I saw the movie, Grease, on the big screen when I was in high school (in it's original run) and I thought it was a piece of shit. They had some really good older actors. No, not the actors playing teenagers, I mean the really older actors, like Eve Arden. They completely wasted her, couldn't they come up with some funny lines? Allan Carr was without talent as a producer. Fat fuck. The dances looked like a mess. The new songs (that played endlessly on the radio that summer) were crap. I was shocked about 20 years later when some kids told me the movie was a classic, to their generation.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 20, 2021 3:55 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 20, 2021 3:56 PM|
It's not exactly unusual that a new generation will look back at some of the cultural products an older generation loves and find it insane that no one noticed the obvious terrible-ness of it. Like 16 Candles. Or Gone With The Wind.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 20, 2021 4:55 PM|
R54 I guess that's not usnusual, either, but that's actually the opposite of what I was saying.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 20, 2021 5:24 PM|
R31 = Master of Stating the Obvious from a window seat on the short bus.
No shit I'm old, I SAID the movie came out when I was in High School.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 20, 2021 9:04 PM|
It did to the stage property what the movie versions did to Sound of Music and Little Shop. Ticket buyers come in expecting the movie. Scaled up, Grease and Little Shop have lost their original charm. Annie hasn't had a production with charm since the original. Whatever happened to...charm?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 20, 2021 9:14 PM|
R19. Damn, Madonna's daughter, Lourdes Leon, has a fabulous voice. She should sing; she's terrific. My impression of her has changed from a tattooed cheap thing not suited to modeling to a very talented singer. Is she pursuing singing?
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 20, 2021 10:09 PM|
Why did I immediately know this bullshit would be in a right-wing rag?
Here's the part where morons act as though this is some widespread, liberal/Democratic-led effort to rid the world of the scourge that is "Grease."
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 20, 2021 10:28 PM|
Maybe no one was paying attention to you, R52?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 20, 2021 11:01 PM|
My HS drama teacher said the exact same thing about "Grease" in 1990 when some of the students wanted to do it, and this was hardly a bastion of progressivism. This isn't a new observation.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 21, 2021 1:10 AM|
There is a middle school in Manhattan that’s working on a production of “Grease” right now. Seriously.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 21, 2021 1:34 AM|
Needs some songs about wet ass pussies to be empowering to women.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 21, 2021 1:40 AM|
What's wrong with some of you? This has nothing to do with the quality of Grease as entertainment. It has to do with the ridiculous level of policing of everything that has ever existed in the name of the "PC" boogeyman even though it's just a small, big-mouthed group of busybodies looking to cause trouble and get attention for themselves. The whole "first they came for..." sentiment applies here. The Wokesters are the fascists of the Left. I'm surprised they haven't picked up the Right's "lock ____ up!" chant. I guess their version is to "cancel" people and things instead. At least for now.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 21, 2021 1:45 AM|
R64, every fucking thing on this earth has someone bitching, but you're the one who gives into the right-wing highlighting it as if it's some groundswell of objection to Grease.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||November 21, 2021 2:07 AM|
Why is everything "woke is bad" with you people? Just because this show isn't a good fit for a local school doesn't mean the liberals are coming for your show tunes. Get a grip.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||November 21, 2021 2:22 AM|
The woke crowd has been bitching about Grease for several years now. I remember they were bitching on twitter around the time FOX was getting ready to do the live production in 2016.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||November 21, 2021 2:34 AM|
R67, and you're the only one who even fucking remembers that ANYONE bitched about it then. It's still everywhere if you want to watch that crap.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||November 21, 2021 3:54 AM|
R58 "I can sing. I just don't care about it," Leon said. "Maybe it's too close to home."
Ah, the ignorance of youth.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||November 21, 2021 4:01 AM|
To illustrate the difference in attitudes between today and many years ago: in 1979 a Lesbian woman I knew told her 9 year old nephew that she was going to take him to see a stage show of Grease and she knew he would like it. She took him and he fell in love with the show and especially all the songs. He learned every song by heart and went around singing Greased Lightnin' all the time. He named his cat Sandy! So for Christmas that year I gave him the Grease movie soundtrack album with all the songs and he was ecstatic over that. Nobody ever had any objections about anything in the musical at that time. It was all taken in context and even people who didn't like musicals realized it was a satire on 1950s teen culture in America. Anyway, the Lesbian was pleased that her nephew loved Grease and the boy was pleased that she took him (she was a tough ole' butch Lesbian and he had no choice anyway.) But he continued to love the Grease songs for many years and grew up to be a confirmed Bisexual. This is a true story. My point is: All this outrage and 'woke culture' hate is stupid and childish. It's all political (in the original Greek meaning of the word.)
|by Anonymous||reply 70||November 21, 2021 6:25 AM|
People who think there is no WAP in Grease obviously don’t know the chicks will cream for greased lightening. It’s a real pussy wagon R63.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||November 21, 2021 11:15 AM|
It's so sad when suckers like the Woke-Hating Grannies on this thread fall for the latest right-wing media panic.
They're just like the people who ran around mad about hot coffee at a McDonald's in 1990.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||November 21, 2021 12:46 PM|
I am as anti "woke" as they come but 2 high schools not doing it in HS in Australia is non news. Who cares?
And yes, the point of Sandy and Danny in the end is that they BOTH learned to compromiser and change for each other (though prsonally I don't think that's a great message either for either gender, but that's another thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||November 21, 2021 12:53 PM|
R73 to clarify, compromise is good but completelt changing yourself for someone isn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||November 21, 2021 12:55 PM|
Also, as a useful exercise, it might be worthwhile for old white people to stop using the term "woke" as a pejorative for like three months. Try it. We'll all feel better.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||November 21, 2021 1:00 PM|
I saw Grease in previews at the Broadhurst. It had been a big hit off Broadway(at the Eden?) so I thought it would be a fun nostalgia musical. I didn't like it and had no desire to see it again so I had no idea it would be a international phenomenon. And I certainly didn't think of its social implications. If it had flopped I would have hardly remembered it.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||November 21, 2021 1:05 PM|
Old white people? So you mean,this entire board R75 lol
I agree though, just call it what it is. Stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||November 21, 2021 1:10 PM|
Having four leads who all looked in their 50s playing teens should have canceled this shit years ago. Travolta was gayer than a pink prolapsed anus.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||November 21, 2021 1:10 PM|
No, the crotchety Grandmas on here think any challenge to Clinton-era liberalism is WOKE NONSENSE and rage against it.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||November 21, 2021 1:12 PM|
[quote]Nobody ever had any objections about anything in the musical at that time.
It got quite a few bad reviews at the time, and many felt it was a cheap attempt to cash in on weird, misplaced, commercialized nostalgia.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||November 21, 2021 1:14 PM|
R79 not really, not any challenges. The stupid ones only.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||November 21, 2021 1:20 PM|
And "not liking Grease" is stupid? Seems wise to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||November 21, 2021 1:22 PM|
R82, eh its dumb if you opt out of doing it for certain reasons, as others have statd on this thread, but like I said in another post, nothing to get into a tizzy about. It's 2 damn high schools in Australia,.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||November 21, 2021 1:30 PM|
But I like getting into a tizzy.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||November 21, 2021 1:49 PM|
There's also a huge difference between "totally appropriate" and "totally appropriate for a school production". Go to college and do all the crazy experimental naked Rocky Horror stuff you want, I love that. But in a HS where the audience is the other students and family and faculty, stick to one of the thousand great options where nobody has to mime oral sex in front of their grandparents or be in their lingerie around the English teacher or do shows about how if your boyfriend thinks you're not loose enough, dress sluttier.
I couldn't really care less about "Grease" one way or the other beyond thinking it has some pretty great songs, but it's such a lazy and uninspired choice for a school play beyond the messaging.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||November 21, 2021 2:25 PM|
R85 you are a voice of reason in a sea of division troll posts.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||November 21, 2021 2:27 PM|
[quote] Go to college and do all the crazy experimental naked Rocky Horror stuff you want, I love that.
Can I watch?
|by Anonymous||reply 87||November 21, 2021 2:28 PM|
[quote] nobody has to mime oral sex in front of their grandparents
Isn’t that the true spirit of Thanksgiving and what it’s all about?
|by Anonymous||reply 88||November 21, 2021 2:28 PM|
[quote]Why is everything "woke is bad" with you people? Just because this show isn't a good fit for a local school doesn't mean the liberals are coming for your show tunes. Get a grip.
I don't know if anyone read the article, but it says some girls rasied objections. It wasn't necessarily that it was a bad fit for the school. A vocal minority made a stink about it and got it cancelled. Very probably, the majority of the students were not against doing the show. It can be seen as a microcosm of what's going on in the wider world. Social justice warriors who campaign to cancel art because it doesn't conform to their ideals. And they're obeyed. It's just censorship. No different from any other censorship.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||November 21, 2021 3:00 PM|
I am exercising radical acceptance. I can handle this. Just don’t try and cancel Bye Bye Birdie. That I will not tolerate.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||November 21, 2021 3:05 PM|
We’ll check in on that later, right now we’ve got an eye on To Kill A Mockingbird.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||November 21, 2021 3:18 PM|
They'll have too pry my VHS of Grease out of my COLD, DEAD HANDS!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 92||November 21, 2021 5:05 PM|
Doesn’t Frenchie have a lot to communicate about not obtaining your goals? Who canceled Who?
|by Anonymous||reply 93||November 21, 2021 6:17 PM|
[quote] They'll have too pry
|by Anonymous||reply 94||November 21, 2021 7:40 PM|
R94, what's the "Oh, dear!" for? Nonetheless, I am HONORED to be Oh, dear'ed here!
Oh shit, I already typed my response before I saw it. "Too." I thought I'd used the wrong tense of pry.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||November 21, 2021 10:14 PM|
Well, that doesn’t mean we don’t love ya.
I got a kick out your post regardless.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||November 21, 2021 10:18 PM|
Thanks, R89, for making sense. The people that just don't understand how authoritarian the woke crowd acts are being purposefully obtuse or they are just that ignorant. Woke and Trumptard are two sides of the same coin.
[quote]Also, as a useful exercise, it might be worthwhile for old white people to stop using the term "woke" as a pejorative for like three months. Try it. We'll all feel better.
Another useful exercise would be for the wokesters to stop being fucking reactionary, whining morons at least until the next election because they are going to cost us the House, at least. Keep up the bullshit, and we'll end up with President DeSatan in 2024. Of course, that will just give you more to react to and whine about so you probably don't really care. Anyway, try it. We'll all feel better.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||November 21, 2021 10:57 PM|
Yes, it's the WOKESTERS who transformed Biden's big legislative achievements into nothing much. It's WOKESTERS who stand in the way of drug pricing reform. It's WOKESTERS who refuse to pass voting rights.
Oh, no wait. It's moderates. Corporate moderates who don't give a fig about WOKE shit but seem to want to make sure that the Dems do nothing much with their trifecta.
I know it's comforting for old people to think it's all the fault of everyone else. But fuck you R97. It's not fucking Canceling Grease that's gonna cost anyone the House. It's a few Dems in the pockets of Big Pharma who water down everything into a non-achivement that no one cares about that will doom them.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||November 21, 2021 11:13 PM|
Wrong, R98. The Wokesters are handing the Right their talking points because the Wokesters don't understand politics or elections. They are immature whiny brats who force the Democrats into corners instead of coalescing around practical legislation and political platforms. They are helping people like Manchin play his games because he can point to them as the crazies for cover for his assholery. Like I said before, Wokesters and Trumptards are two sides of the same coin.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||November 21, 2021 11:31 PM|
Isn't there a Grease Jr. that'd done in some schools? If the original version is too extreme, why not just switch it out for that one if they really want to do it?
I do think it works better with 20 and 30 year olds playing the teens. It's less grounded and more silly and a lot of the story is easier to accept.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||November 21, 2021 11:36 PM|
R99 you are so right! I can’t believe people don’t see it…
|by Anonymous||reply 101||November 21, 2021 11:46 PM|
[quote] Isn't there a Grease Jr. that'd done in some schools? If the original version is too extreme, why not just switch it out for that one if they really want to do it?
Yeah, there's the School Edition version.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||November 22, 2021 3:40 AM|
But doesn't it have the same ending which is what the wokesters are objecting to?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||November 22, 2021 10:47 PM|
Two schools in Australia apparently equals the whole world!
This just shows how dumb the freepers are. Shouldn't you guys be busy banning Toni Morrison books from the library?
|by Anonymous||reply 104||November 22, 2021 10:49 PM|
R99, Republicans like you are the whiny brats. You bitch about shit like "Critical Race Theory" even though you losers can't define it!
You whine about American Democrats because of what a couple schools in Australia did
|by Anonymous||reply 105||November 22, 2021 10:51 PM|
R91 is busy getting LGBT books banned from the library in Bumfucke, Virginia with the rest of the Republican frau brigade.
It figures that you guys would link to a New York Post article
|by Anonymous||reply 106||November 22, 2021 10:53 PM|
R105, there is no way anyone with more than a first grade reading ability could think I'm a Repug after reading what I wrote. You are a moron.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||November 23, 2021 2:49 AM|
The very snooty director of Carrie at the RSC who was as the show was being developed in touch with the Weislers to bring it to NY. They told him it should have some quality of Grease in it. They flew to London to discuss the show with him and saw the costumes were of grecian gowns and togas. They were WTF?! And he said but you wanted it to have the quality of Greece and they said 'Not Greece the country! Grease the musical!' they left knowing it would be a shitstorm.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||November 23, 2021 7:07 PM|
But should Carrie have some quality of Grease in it?
|by Anonymous||reply 109||November 27, 2021 1:03 AM|
No, there’s too much blood, now you want grease too?
|by Anonymous||reply 110||November 27, 2021 1:07 AM|