Why do lesbians have such high rates of domestic violence?

Sexual violence within lesbian relationships was found to be as high as 55%.

They’re transitioning at alarming rates, OP. That should make you happy at least.

When women who engaged in same-sex sexual activity prior to their detention are factored in, sexual minority women account for a staggering 42.1 percent of the female prison population

Sexual tension

Very interesting patterns if these facts are true as presented.

Lesbians also divorce at far higher rates than straights. Gay men divorce at a lower rate than straights.

Women aren't as ego driven as men to hide that they are domestic violence victims. They most likely report more freely.

What? Accord to straight men everywhere , lesbians are hot, wonderful and great

I don't know if I believe it, but I can believe that lesbians are more willing to come forward and report abuse than straight women.

I'll probably get "cAnCelLeD" for this, but some women are just too cynical. There's a reason why gay marriages have the lowest divorce rates among lesbian and straight ones.

Because a lot of women are fucking crazy.

Maybe lesbians are less afraid to leave their partners and less willing to put up with crap. I'm probably just making sweeping generalizations - I have no data to back mu opinions up.

They take their anger about straight men & the trans out on their partners.

When In Living Color did a spoof on minority super heroes back around 1990 they had "Angry Woman" the first black feminist lesbian super hero at 1:02 =

Butches treat their women worse that white trash and ghetto black men.

Gay men are so gentle and kind towards each other

[quote]Maybe lesbians are less afraid to leave their partners and less willing to put up with crap

And there’s A LOT of crap from lesbians.

Lesbian drama

R1 I read that wikipedia link but it doesn't say that lesbians have a higher rate of DV?? In fact, it says that rates are lower.

[QUOTE]Since not all lesbians are open about their sexuality, large random samples are difficult to obtain and therefore are unable to show trends in the general lesbian community.[11] Research samples tend to be smaller, causing report rates of violence to be lower than they may be.

It is because violent behavior is inversely proportionate to sense of humor.

Because when they tell you now so they don't have to tell you later, you had better listen.

Too much energy left and not spent because of the "death bed".

Alcohol.

Lesbians report being physically abused at a higher rate, so it must be women doing the beating.

I still am amazed at this. I'm the only person who tried to verify OP's claim (and I couldn't). So many other people just ate it up as true.

When did you stop beating your partner, OP?

I don't believe it, r24. It's cut from the same cloth as the MRA "men and women are equally abusive!!" line. (News flash: they aren't, and the women killed in domestic violence incidents would surely have something to say about it.)

when the canes get a'swinging you know trouble will ensue

Lesbians are angry bitter people with high testosterone levels for a female. They would like to beat the shit of men, but know well they would get curb stomped in return. So they attack each other out of sheer frustration.

I love all these made-up statistics "__ is much lower than __" because I want to think that, and my friends and I throw this statistic around in conversation. No one really has research, but still fun to make up stuff to support my thoughts.

free bread pudding comes with a PRICE

Anyway, hard to believe women, even lesbians, are phisically more agressive than males.

physically, I meant

[quote] When women who engaged in same-sex sexual activity prior to their detention are factored in, sexual minority women account for a staggering 42.1 percent of the female prison population

Those numbers are actually insane.

[quote]Lie and Gentlewarrier (1991) report that in their non-random, self-selected sample of lesbians, 51% reported experiencing some form of abuse (verbal, emotional, psychological, physical and/or sexual) by a female partner.

Domestic Violence in Lesbian Relationships

Diane Helene Miller PhD , Kathryn Greene PhD , Vickie Causby PhD , Barbara W. White PhD & Lettie L. Lockhart PhD

R34 and what's the percentage in straight relationships? I mean, we're basically including calling someone a nasty name or being passive aggressive, stuff like that here.

[quote]non-random, self-selected sample

There you go, r34

R36 It's pathetic. Can they not at least include the same study of straight couples to compare fairly? And most of that shit wouldn't count as 'domestic violence' in court.

R1 that link specifically says the data is unreliable and gives the many reasons why.

I somehow doubt that their violence levels are that much higher than other relationships. Men as a sex still commit the big majority of violent crime, not women.

Okay. So it's only sexual violence that's higher. There are no statistics for non-sexual violence.

The really wild figures are the imprisonment ones.

Welcome to DL, r24. A whole shitload of our threads are some bigoted bullshit that someone made up and everyone blindly believed.

The one source listed is 30 years old. The other source mentioned but not linked is 20 years old, and the text is not publicly available, but the abstract CLEARLY indicates that more research is needed.

Even the Wikipedia on DV in lesbian relationships cites 20-year-old reports and says there's not enough data.

I don't know. Why do gay men have such high rates of STDs compared to every other group? You know when you point your finger at others, there are three pointing back at you, right?

R34 you are citing a 30 year old study based on a non-random, self-selected sample? Do better.

There's something fishy about this post.

Why do gay men hate gay women so much?

You could just ask, "Why do men hate women so much?" r44.

I know 3 lesbian couples, and they are actually very loving and respectful towards each other and others.

Can I throw a "confirmation bias" into the ring?

There isn't a society on Earth in which men don't commit the majority of violent crime.

It's one of those "human universals"

"Why do gay men have such high rates of STDs compared to every other group"

Because we have more sex. A lot more.

Keep watching because DL is under Boris' influence, seriously, several transphobic threads for the past three years, a bunch of anti-lesbian threads this week and recently within the threads a lot of "LGB" activists (from Slovakia that is) claiming that being against gay marriage is okay and not a sign of sure homophobia.

Soon they'll be starting threads about how non-heterosexual people are diseased.

Put the blame on me, boy. (And not on DL misogynists.)

R49, yea , animalistic and degrading sex.

DL was always quite misogynistic, R51, but it was never necessarily predominantly Right-wing like it has become since 2018 or 2019, the site is clearly under right-wing attack. They think they're going to brainwash us into becoming republicans.

By the way, the prudish Czech frau at R52 proves my point,R51.

OP has obviously never been in a dyke bar with a pool table.

R9 OR women are more likely to come forward about being abused than straight men.

R49 Gays have a lot more sex and STDs because there’s no women holding us back!

R44 Gay men don’t hate women. Women talk shit about men ALL day long, it’s completely acceptable for women to talk about the negatives and faults of men.

As gay men, we have nothing to lose like straight men do being honest about women. There’s no pussy power.

R45 Such nonsense. I remember one story in the shooting in Las Vegas. A man jumped in front of his wife and saved her from a bullet and he died. I remember thinking she would have NEVER done that for him.

r59 you sound lovely. Let's revisit some of your other gems:

[quote]I’m 34, if I had been born a woman, I would definitely have found a white guy with decent money to knock me up and get extra income from his child support checks and given the kid off for my mother to raise.

[quote]I’m half white and know a lot of typical white males. I had a lot of white typical male friends but don’t see them much since they got married because their some of their wives don’t allow them to have friends.

[quote]Men aren’t superior to women, they just built most of the world. If women had been the leaders of civilization, the human race would have starved to death in caves 3,000 years ago.

[quote]white men are seen as the most subservient and submissive men amongst all races.

R60 What’s your point? And where are the lies?

Are you saying I have a problem with women and white people OR I understand the problems of women and white men?

Too much cat hair

and

poor pussy hygiene

I agree with R53 that there was always a fair amount of misogyny on DL, but that it had a very different character until recently.

Almost all of it was of the “my brother’s ex-wife is a bitch who took all his money.” or “girls= stink fish” variety. It was pretty benign compared to the division trolls appearing now.

Funny story about prison, when I was an underage gayling, my (sophomore? Junior?) class was taken to a state prison in one of those scared straight programs that were popular in the 80s. Most schools sent troubled kids, mine sent everyone. The inmates went on and on about how terrible prison was because of all of the homosexual sex. I started laughing. And then this woman started directly addressing me, saying how I was being so tough thinking I wouldn’t wind up in prison like her when I obviously had legal problems already and I’d wind up having to have sex with some woman and how awful it’d be. And then everyone started laughing because I was a nerdy-nerd-nerd and also very much out of the closet, but with zero dating success at that point. Anyway many decades ago lesbians might have aspired to prison.

R11, and yet 90% of murderers are heterosexual men. They're the crazy ones.

R58, hates women and lusts after straight men

R58 exact, in fact most women would say they PREFER having gay men as close friends over other women because “they always have my back”

Gay men “get” women in a way that straight men don’t and there’s no competition underlying it like with other women

Lesbians HATE straight men on the other hand…

R66 Women prefer having gay friends over female friends because there’s no competition and mean girl behavior and they can get the same use out of a gay man as they would a straight man without having to put out.

Cynical but true.

Of course not ALL women just like not ALL men and whatever you want spelled out.

No R65 Homophobic logic. Toxic femininity exists and it’s exactly what I’m talking about. Women are just as toxic as men, just in different ways.

I’m curious how the gay male murder / violence statistic compares to the straight male murderer / violence statistic.

Are gay men less violent than straight men?

maybe because they report it. We're probably looking at another 30 years of escalating rates of rape and domestic abuse simply because in the past, it was rarely reported to police. Churches often considered these things family issues. Same with rape in the military. Probably less than ever occurring but rates will continue to skyrocket officially

Yeah, you're right. Cattiness and mean girl behavior isn't there with gay men at all.🙄

You're fucking hilarious, r66. Gay men tear down women like it's a full-time job. In comparison, lesbians are indifferent to men, at best. Which is equivalent to hate, apparently.

It's not all gay men, just some of them, including a number on the DL.

I have as much problem with the stereotype of lesbians being man-hating harridans as I do the stereotype of gay men hating women.

These are UK figures to give you an idea:

[quote[One study of 96 cases of domestic abuse recorded by the police found that men are significantly more likely to be repeat perpetrators and significantly more likely than women to use physical violence, threats, and harassment. In a six year tracking period the majority of recorded male perpetrators (83%) had at least two incidents of recorded abuse, with many having a lot more than two and one man having 52 repeat incidents. Whereas in cases where women were recorded as the perpetrator the majority (62%) had only one incident of abuse recorded and the highest number of repeat incidents for any female perpetrator was eight. The study also found that men’s violence tended to create a context of fear and control; which was not the case when women were perpetrators. (Hester, 2013)

[quote]The large majority of defendants in domestic abuse-related prosecutions in the year ending March 2020 were recorded as male (92%) and the majority of the victims recorded as female (77%, compared with compared with 16% who were male). The sex of the victim was not recorded in 7% of prosecutions. If these missing data were excluded from analysis, then it would be 82% female victims and 18% male victims (ONS, 2020C).

[quote]Over the three-year period April 2016 to March 2019, a total of 222 women were killed by a partner or ex-partner. The majority of suspects were male (218, 98%). This means that during this time period, an average of three women every fortnight were murdered by their male partner or ex-partner. (ONS, 2020B)

R71 the only gay men who tear down women are feminine queens, the typical gay guy LIKES hanging with, talking too and even cares about the women in their life and their well being

Something even most straight men don’t care about

R71 and LOL at you most lesbians are indifferent to men comment

If it was legal and they could get away with it, most lesbians would kill straight men, most lesbians and even straight extreme feminist women have a severe hatred for all things male

And it’s acceptable in society for whatever reason

[quote] If it was legal and they could get away with it, most lesbians would kill straight men,

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard and you're basing it on nothing, except on your own worn out prejudices. Meanwhile, gay guys on this site say daily how they'd like to see women disappear so men will be forced to fuck gay men. If anyone wants the opposite sex gone, it's gay men, and it's hardly a secret.

Because they really need the cock to be truly happy

R70 R71 Compared to what? The people who tear women down the most are women.

[quote] [R70] [R71] Compared to what? The people who tear women down the most are women.

So, now you can't actually defend yourself, so you're deflecting. What a shock. Do you know how predictable and tired your responses are?

Misogynistic assholes love to pit women against each other . It’s no longer working. Girl power and the future is female

R79 How is it deflection? Especially when it’s true?

Gay men are most likely the last threat to women after straight men and other women.

I don’t know where you get that gay men tear down women. Unless you’re saying gay men are all sassy catty queens who bully women. As I’ve said before, it’s just apart of homophobic logic.

Put two women in a confined space for any length of time and the fur is gonna fly.

[quote] As I’ve said before, it’s just apart of homophobic logic.

It's not homophobic if it's true. Gay men are constantly tearing down women for their appearance. I don't know how you can be not attracted to someone and even care about their appearance. Lesbians don't spend their time tearing down men.

Those types of gay men view women as a threat due to their worship of straight guys

R80 LOL, even women say that “women hate other women”

I see it constantly, the comments remarks, slut shaming, body shaming etc

There is no sisterhood, that’s a liberal myth

It would be nice if there was but there isn’t any

I'm sure you do hear that all the time, r85. You hang out with faghags, who are incredibly misogynistic. Just like the gay men they hang out with. On the other hand I've heard plenty of straight women reject gay men as friends or allies. I've heard them talk privately about how gay men are fake and like to use women. They just can't be open about it without being labeled as homophobic. Thankfully, black women don't have that problem. They can put white gay men in their place and we love to see it. Women are able to hate other women, because men are happy with it, particularly gay men. But as soon as they turn on men, men lose their shit.

The statistics on this are misrepresented.

The most recent CDC study found a lifetime prevalence of serious domestic violence of 35% for straight women, 43% for lesbian women and 61% for bisexual women. The statistics are misrepresented because sexual orientation is inferred from the current relationship status of participants rather than the sex of the perpetrator. The CDC explicitly points out that most (75%) of the violence against women currently in same sex relationships occurred at the hands of men when the participants were in earlier heterosexual relationships and cautioned against the study being read as stating that lesbian relationships are more violent (as many MGTOW blogs did with previous studies).

[quote]Lesbians don't spend their time tearing down men.

The hateful cunt at r86 has over 10 posts on here tearing down gay men.

That's a drop in the bucket compared to the demeaning lies gay men spread about gay women. So much for the LGBT "community".

I'm pointing out the cunt's LIES about lesbians not "tearing down men."

That cunt truly enjoys tearing down gay men, as evidenced here.

She a lying cuntress.

Greater access to power tools.

R90 despises women .

Same reason more Republicants have brain damage.

Because you have two people in a relationship who have been socialized to think that they are above the law.

R87 THANK YOU I was scrolling down hoping someone pointed that out. The one study that started this myth just assumed a lesbian reporting violence was abused by another woman, but that wasn't the case for the majority-- they were actually abused by men (previous partners, family, etc.)

It's definitely a case where people don't look into sources and misconstrue data to fit their preconceived notions.

r92

"Girl power and the future is female"

Feminists have been spouting this bullshit for 50 years. The future is resoundingly male. See Afghanistan. Males in Western cultures have increasingly been fed up with women as well;. You're not worth the emotional investment. We will fuck you and make you give us children. You are just a meat puppet cunt.

r97