Thank God DataLounge Isn’t Reddit

Post about De$igning Women then OP.

Reddit blows. Whatever I say on there gets downvoted for no reason — here on DL it’s WWs!

Isn't it, though?

Isn't it?

This is sort of related- are there any stats on the number of people who regularly post on DL? Is it perhaps the 80/20 rule- 20% of the members post 80% of the comments? The owners of this site may be somewhat hesitant to publish these numbers. It would be interesting to know if there are 100 regular posters, or 10,000.

Was it this reddit group, OP?

r4 it's certainly less now that Primetime has been on half the time lately.

I've found that, in general, over the last few years, the role of message board moderators has seemed to attracted the same kind of people who are attracted to serving on HOA or co-op boards.

R2, that's all of us, and thank fucking god!

You know what makes me run screaming back to Datalounge? The way everyone prefaces their replies with "I mean...".

That's even worse than starting a sentence with "So...".

And sometimes the entire statement is "I mean...". That's it.

What the fuck is that?

Idiocy. I'm currently hating on "You really thought you did something with that".

You can almost tell the people who were Redditors before discovering Datalounge. They try to come in and scold and shame and 'speak' in a Reddity manner, and do not/cannot take a joke. A few, or one prolific one, straggled in to the Jeopardy threads and was offended on behalf of bullshit, and used their slippery Reddit-talk: "I feel like", "I mean", "do you guys think blah blah blah?","I sort of think", "I kind of feel like", etc.

I kind of feel like they need to die in a grease fire.

So R12, I mean....you're not wrong...

r10 you can tell a cusp Millennial raised on the internet with that language, and yes they all speak the same way, in a pop-psychology pseudobabble that usually leads with statements like "he's not wrong" rather than "he's right" because to agree with him would potentially offend someone or not give you a perceived out.

R11*^

[quote]they all speak the same way, in a pop-psychology pseudobabble that usually leads with statements like "he's not wrong" rather than "he's right" because to agree with him would potentially offend someone or not give you a perceived out.

R13, I knew it was an easy out, but I never thought about it in that bigger context.

Will this ever end? They're offended by everything. They're offended when someone takes the Aldi cart that already has the quarter in it. They're definitely offended by nice apartments. Those who foster dogs (and I am one) get offended when a well-meaning person tells them they could never foster dogs because they 'just love them too much.'

And they get all this support online for this crazy thinking.

At least Datalounge cares enough to tell you a fucking hysteric.

They're hollow. They tell themselves they're as good as their social media tells them they are, they think they're angels, and yet they'd be the first ones to ghost you when you needed a ride home from the hospital.

Or more realistic, they'd document giving you a ride home from the hospital on their phone with dramatic photos and video and upload it to SM so everyone could tell them how A M A Z I N G they are!

r15 don't forget that they "feel unsafe" if someone disagrees with their very sane opinions!

It's all lightly coded victim language. The use of those specific words evokes sympathy, or at least it used to, in a lot of people. They've been raised by manipulative marketing messages, cynicism, crowd activism on the internet, the desire to feel unique and special even though you're just like everyone else, and looking for easy solutions to complex problems. It's created a generation of cynical, unserious narcissists who are so busy looking for perceived slights that they can use to their advantage and feel powerful that they lose sight of pretty much everything of meaning.

It's also used by people who ten years ago were probably bullying others in a different way with racial slurs, the "f" word, etc. Bullies will adapt to whatever techniques give them the most power in any situation. Currently it's the language of intersectionality and victim culture, on both the left and the right.

r16 the hollowness comes from narcissism, focus on themselves over other people and especially larger society. Social media has significantly multiplied the number of narcissists in first world countries.

Most Social Media sites are overloaded with teenagers who think they are geniuses. Or middle-aged people from Bumphuc, Indiana. I remember one guy (who used his real name and owned a carpet-laying business) replying to a sort-of associate of mine (who was the No. 2 guy at the largest company of it's kind on the planet) what kind of an clueless businessman idiot he was, clearly not understanding who he was communicating with- and Mr. Big's signature always had his real name and even a real picture of himself. Now, if he didn't agree with him, OK, I understand that, but adding the other stuff made him look dumb.

No doubt OP is still traumatized by Television Without Pity,

r19 you would appreciate @RadioFreeTom on Twitter, he's written a book on the Death of Expertise.

[quote] The use of those specific words evokes sympathy, or at least it used to, in a lot of people.

R17 Are people starting to see it for what it is now? Is it almost over?

You appear to understand this phenomenon much more keenly than I.

R21 - Thank-you! Excellent reference.

r22 I'm just another guy bloviating on the internet, although I do think I have a better understanding of the phenomenon than most given my specific background. My opinion is pieced together from more qualified experts' opinions and personal experience. But I don't have a Doctorate in Psychology or anything, so take it with a grain of salt!

I do think that we've reached and crossed the peak of some aspects of it, in more people are recognizing it for what it is - an attempt to manipulate others around you and gain some sense of power and control, and feel like the star of your own movie. People are bored and generally comfortable in our culture so they look for ways to elevate themselves. But it's all so messy and chaotic and there's so many different forces acting at once that it's very difficult to see a way through it.

OP yet you copy and paste headlines from Reddit all the time

@R2-Quote: " That's even worse than starting a sentence with "So...". (Right?! This!) I mean, seriously? They can't just say that they agree and maybe add an original thought of their own? That is so lazy and I have to wonder wtf are they doing on a website if they have nothing more to contribute to the conversation?

Reddit is less petty and therefore more interesting. But I only post and play here. I'm a loyal betch.

I do not know what will become of me if we ever lose DL. Oh, we will try to use Reddit but those sanctimonious, condescending, faux virtual signaling pricks will make it miserable. I read a post today from some anti-vaxer idiot with the IQ of a squid. "You do whut the gubmint tells ya and ya call me stewpit?" I simply replied that she was free to die stupidly for her freedumb. I was given some warning that I do not even understand nor do I give one tiny drop of a fuck about. My response was deleted. Thank God for home, DL!!!!

Everyone is so concerned about "suicide triggers" that you could LITERALLY KILL PEOPLE BY THE THOUSANDS if it were left up to pollute other minds, r28.

R26, ^^This. So much this.

[Quote] (Right?! This!) I mean, seriously? They can't just say that they agree and maybe add an original thought of their own? That is so lazy and I have to wonder wtf are they doing on a website if they have nothing more to contribute to the conversation?

^^This. So much this.

If they are that fucking stupid and susceptible do we should we really stop them? 😉

@R31- 😂

I read OP’s post in Dawn Davenport’s voice.

The Drag Race subreddits would make your heads explode.

R35- I was on Reddit to get updates on Dead Brian and the Murdaugh gothic horror. The only other thread I check out is the one for DL. To assure myself that it is still there. 😳

R28, I don't even look at the political/covid subreddits.

I couldn't sleep the night before last and I was looking at the Kitchen Confidential one for restaurant cooks, and a guy posted a photo of a sheet pan full of peeled garlic cloves about to go into a commercial oven. Everyone was enjoying the garlic talk and then in came some little shit who probably never did a goddamned thing in his life and he asked whether the OP peeled all the garlic, or if it came prepeeled. The OP said it comes that way and the little fucker proceeded to tell everyone that he saw a documentary on Netflix that 400% of the world's unwhole garlic, including prepeeled garlic, is peeled by Chinese prisoners who have to peel it with their teeth because garlic is so astringent that it makes the skin come off their fingers or some shit.

Yay.

Gotta love the Reddit woke police.

R37- They ruin everything. Everything. But the way you worded that did make me laugh. 😆

He found it "...disturbing to say the least", and so was compelled to come dot dot dot disturb everyone else with he dubious facts.

Someone else commented that garlic commercially separated from the peel using high pressure air or or gas, which sounds more likely.

"Basically" is another one of the words they use that should tip you off that you're about to get a hot load of bullshit.

When will this woke bs go away? Will it ever? I hope the woke assholes will enjoy censorship. I loathe them .

[quote]I don't even look at the political/covid subreddits.

The main r/Politics subreddit is right-down-the-middle moderate. Lots of the same news stories get posted there and here.

r/StupidPol is hard left but hates identity politics as much as they do centrism. They and r/RedScarePod seem to fill the self-consciously hip, [italic]Cum Town[italic]–listening, dirtbag-left void left after r/ChapoTrapHouse got banned.

If you want to stay abreast of the latest COVID science, r/COVID19 is great. Their moderation is extremely strict—primary sources only and no anecdotal postings.

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As a reddit user myself I have to agree with OP

We have FAR better freedom of speech here, there are some real pieces of work on there who are thin skinned to the extreme

[quote]I've found that, in general, over the last few years, the role of message board moderators has seemed to attracted the same kind of people who are attracted to serving on HOA or co-op boards.

R7, it does depend on which reddit sub, some are just like you describe, others are fine. But the worst by far are the overall sitewide site moderators, a lot of whom seem to be exactly the people R17 described so well. And they operate by rules that are opaque arbitrary and ambiguous, there is no transparency, they dont even explain what the issue is when you trangress their unwritten rules - exactly as OP describes so well

Dam glad I got this place

As a reddit user myself I have to agree with OP

We have FAR better freedom of speech here, there are some real pieces of work on there who are thin skinned to the extreme

[quote]I've found that, in general, over the last few years, the role of message board moderators has seemed to attracted the same kind of people who are attracted to serving on HOA or co-op boards.

R7, it does depend on which reddit sub, some are just like you describe, others are fine. But the worst by far are the overall sitewide site moderators, a lot of whom seem to be exactly the people R17 described so well. And they operate by rules that are opaque arbitrary and ambiguous, there is no transparency, they dont even explain what the issue is when you trangress their unwritten rules - exactly as OP describes so well

Dam glad I got this place

You can not call a murdering coward a coward for committing suicide. It doesn't matter if you type in all block letters that you are not calling all suicides cowards , just the ones who strangle their girlfriend to death and leave her body in a desolate creek bed to be consumed by animals and insects.

Datalounge is one of the last strongholds of freedom on the internet. Everything else is run by lunatic hall monitors.

It is just so insulting and condescending. We are being treated like wayward children in need of training, they ARE training us. It is actually frightening to me.

TRANSLATION: "Thank God Datalounge allows Fake News trolls and rabid bigotry."

R50- Exactly! I love it here! 😆 It may be a dysfunctional home but it is our home, damnit!

There was an incident a few years ago where a woman left her baby in a car for just a second as she ran in to the store, and some lady shouted at her "You forgot your baby!" but the woman got snotty and said it was only for a minute. When she came back out, the lady said she shouldn't leave her baby in a running car unattended, and the woman yelled at her, then apparently went to Reddit to one of those AITA type subs to complain.

Everyone on Reddit was on her side. The entire comments section was "No one ever steals babies, that's an urban legend, cars can't come out of park on accident, no one has ever stolen a running car with a baby in it, if it's not hot outside who cares."

I posted links to two articles about cars being stolen with babies in them and I was not only downvoted in the hundreds but banned from whatever sub it was.

So I have to disagree: I found the experience very similar to Datalounge. If I post a link to a legitimate news article on a trans thread or a political thread, or if I tell Davida or Matt A. or Gap Guy to fuck off, it's likely they'll use sockpuppets to downvote and ban me, just like people do on Reddit.

[quote]Datalounge is one of the last strongholds of freedom on the internet. Everything else is run by lunatic hall monitors.

Again, if you've ever had Muriel ban you because you gave technical help to someone who asked a question about how the site works, or ever got FFed to hell and back after posting an obviously sarcastic joke that the dummies on here didn't realize was a joke, you wouldn't say that.

Plenty of people on here get banned, just usually not the psychos and trolls. DL is back to letting people game the "automated moderation system" because they're too lazy to actually do any work on this place themselves, and it means people who haven't done anything wrong are censored while the fuck-up Q loons and rightwing trolls get to enjoy this "stronghold of freedom on the internet."

R50, not quite. I tried to post in the Am I The Asshole Subreddit for ignoring my neighbor when he wanted to pray for me because I’m an atheist.

The post got approved and then locked and removed because it could have been inflammatory. Basically one moderator said it was okay and then another one came along and said it wasn’t.

Little gods. Validated in their “power”.

R50's "rabid bigotry" = "anything that disagrees with the required stance(tm) on lunatics being able to dictate to the world and change the meanings of words by quoting made-up statistics, junk science, and threatening suicide".

R54 that is ridiculous of them to block that topic.

Reddit is full of common trash

Reddit is fucking lame. It is just the same damn jokes over and over again. What I really hate is when someone post a song lyric or quote in the comments and everyone else has to chime in. How lame. And, god forbid you see any post about a limbless person; you will see the exact same jokes about “give then a hand” over and over again.

The only time reddit is good is for the very nitch communities such as duggarsnark, but even then sights like “free Jinger” do it better.

Reddit is such a straight male website. Anytime there is a question about a movie or TV show, it is always the most trashy bro movies people talk about. And, everyday there is some post about how hard it is to be a man. Puh-lease.

Lol YES OP I know exactly what you mean. The moderators are such bitches - they also flip out if you post something that was discussed in the past month and accuse you of not searching properly. I once got into it with one of them because I had searched and couldn’t find the answer and posted a question in good faith (it was about local IKEAs or something really benign). The moderator said I was lying about searching and then told me not to “piss her off” by arguing.

Incels and fat fraus make Muriel look like a saint.

R54 I got my AITA post blocked when I posted about how I called someones dog ugly on Grindr when I expressed in my profile that I hate dogs and he proceeded to send me a dog pic.

I find reddit useful for information and some very light discussions. I don't get too involved, I'm just driving by for info. And I don't care about down votes.

i'd say i'm a casual user of reddit. i hate it when i see a good thread i'm interested in, and there are 300 comments totally unrelated to the topic as a reply. Maybe i'm too old for reddit. As someone above wrote, there are good niche topics that i like to read.

Datalounge has spoiled me. I sometimes forget when i'm commenting on other sites how bitchy i am, and realize this isn't datalounge.

[quote]Datalounge has spoiled me. I sometimes forget when i'm commenting on other sites how bitchy i am, and realize this isn't datalounge.

Same! On DL the word "cunt" is thrown around like confetti, but I forget that on other sites using that word makes you worse than Hitler.

Thing with DL is that if you cross the line - they will give you a 24 hour time out - sort of like a "stand in the corner" move - makes you think to try to be better,

I think that works

^This is the way

^this right here is the way

^this is the way, my dude

^This is the way, folks.

^ Ah, I think you may be right.

Any board/site that bans you for violating T&Cs and then doesn't tell you why is fucking trash. Social media has churned up the trash from the sea bottom and now it's on the surface along with the truth.

I really only visit the DM Reddit. I do love that talk of Chris Evans gets banned and you're not allowed to speculate on an actor's sexuality 🙄

I avoid most subreddits, but I'm one of the moderators of a small hobby subreddit (~120 members, almost no activity since we opened a Discord server) and it's okay. I have never had to actually moderate anything because the community is so small and congenial.

Some of the big subreddits are cesspool however.

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[quote] Datalounge is one of the last strongholds of freedom on the internet. Everything else is run by lunatic hall monitors.

F&F r48

R73 the last stronghold on Reddit was r/0&a

Rest in piss sweet sub, we shall never again see your like or equal :(

^^^^^

I joined the “Succession” Reddit because I thought there might be some interesting analysis of the episodes. It was mainly “Jeremy Strong is so HAWT” and the dumbest memes ever. So I left.

But I love r/eyebleach, all the pet photos and videos. There have been videos that nearly made me a cry, like the rescue of a dog in a flood, or made me really laugh, like the one with a dog being trained as a support animal that brought Hidden Valley ranch dressing instead of a water bottle out of the frig to her handler.

You sound like mah freedumbs people

I'm sorry, I can't get past the fact that OP has violated Rule 7b.

I'm calling an emergency meeting of DL's secret governing body.

From Reddit:

[quote]What's up with gay men on datalounge? Randomly came across a topic on that forum and decided to look more into it since it seems to me one of the biggest if not the biggest forum for gay men. I was over it after a few topics. These gays are the biggest transphobes. [bold]They seem so bitter and bitchy it's unbelievable.

OMG, I've never been so flattered...I'm not sure who to thank first...

I still like looking at the unclothed men on Reddit.

If you disagree with someone and tell them, they report you because you sounded "menacing"