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Beth Howland question

Do DLers think Beth Howland would have become a star without her role on the sitcom Alice? She'd been a big deal on Broadway, appeared on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, but do you think she'd have eventually gotten her own series or worked in film?

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by Anonymousreply 33October 22, 2021 8:44 PM

She could have replaced Valerie Harper in The Hogan Family.

by Anonymousreply 1October 22, 2021 12:16 AM

Nah. Too odd and better in small doses. I can’t picture her in a leading role.

by Anonymousreply 2October 22, 2021 12:21 AM

I hated both her MTM appearances. So…no.

by Anonymousreply 3October 22, 2021 12:23 AM

I’m a die-hard Beth Howland fan.

by Anonymousreply 4October 22, 2021 12:24 AM

She could have played Julie Haggerty's sister in any of her films.

by Anonymousreply 5October 22, 2021 12:24 AM

I was going to say she kind of fit that niche of nervous, mousy actresses like Julie Hagerty and Valerie Mahaffey. Good in supporting roles but not a headliner.

by Anonymousreply 6October 22, 2021 12:30 AM

After Company on Broadway Ms. Howland moved to California but had comparatively little work in film or television until Alice. She rode out that gig until series ended, then went into semi-retirement.

IMHO Ms. Howland like many other actors/dancers got lucky with a few big breaks. Afterwards or in between she took what jobs came her way that suited. Doesn't seem as if she was hugely interested in becoming a big star.

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by Anonymousreply 7October 22, 2021 12:31 AM

I'd like to have seen her in a rom-com opposite a much younger man.

by Anonymousreply 8October 22, 2021 12:32 AM

Her choppers were too big.

by Anonymousreply 9October 22, 2021 12:32 AM

For someone who as a life long smoker, Beth Howland had remarkable breath control as a singer. Few have managed to top her in "I'm Not Getting Married Today".

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by Anonymousreply 10October 22, 2021 12:33 AM

R10, this is one of those songs where if you mess up a single word, the song is fucked and you can't catch up again. It's happened to talented performers.

by Anonymousreply 11October 22, 2021 12:34 AM

I think you're grasping at dropped drinking straws.

by Anonymousreply 12October 22, 2021 12:35 AM

She was an incredibly grating presence so I was shocked when I saw the Company in Concert video taped in the 90s. She was completely charming and very much a star in the ensemble.

by Anonymousreply 13October 22, 2021 12:37 AM


IIRC most singers manage "I'm Not Getting Married Today" by slowing down the tempo, sometimes quite a bit.

by Anonymousreply 14October 22, 2021 12:37 AM

Why didn't Alice have any waitresses of color working at Mel's?

by Anonymousreply 15October 22, 2021 12:37 AM

I think Beth could have played Janet in Rocky Horror better than Susie Sarandon.

by Anonymousreply 16October 22, 2021 2:25 AM


No way! Beth Howland's looks wouldn't at all suit as "Janet". She was too thin (with legs like two toothpicks), mousey and rather fragile looking.

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by Anonymousreply 17October 22, 2021 3:16 AM

Beth Howland couldn't pull off the bedroom scene from Rocky Horror.

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by Anonymousreply 18October 22, 2021 3:17 AM

And can you really picture Beth Howland doing "Touch-a Touch-a, Touch Me"?

With or without "I want to be dirty".....

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by Anonymousreply 19October 22, 2021 3:19 AM

Is Howland Street on the East End of Provincetown named for Beth. I pretend it is

by Anonymousreply 20October 22, 2021 3:22 AM

No, Howland was best in small doses.

by Anonymousreply 21October 22, 2021 3:23 AM

She could be sensual.

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by Anonymousreply 22October 22, 2021 3:26 AM

She would have been strong in You Light Up My Life, maybe even better than Didi Conn.

by Anonymousreply 23October 22, 2021 5:58 AM

This begs the next question: what had more charisma Beth Howland or Didi Conn?

by Anonymousreply 24October 22, 2021 7:03 AM

Because there were no people of color living in Phoenix in the 1970s, R15.

by Anonymousreply 25October 22, 2021 8:24 AM

Frenchie >>>>> Vera

by Anonymousreply 26October 22, 2021 12:43 PM

Could Howland have played the mother in Mask?

by Anonymousreply 27October 22, 2021 7:20 PM

She pretty much disappeared after Alice.

by Anonymousreply 28October 22, 2021 8:01 PM

She gave Dolly Parton a gorilla fist pussy chain.

by Anonymousreply 29October 22, 2021 8:11 PM

Always found it odd that she and Michael J. Pollard were married for a while. Cannot picture those two together.

by Anonymousreply 30October 22, 2021 8:14 PM

She was so lucky to have bedded Michael J. Pollard. sigh.

by Anonymousreply 31October 22, 2021 8:15 PM

She said Pollard was a deadbeat that didn't pay any child support for their daughter. During her career slow years before landing Alice, she stuggled getting by and she and her daughter lived on tuna fish sandwiches for some time.

by Anonymousreply 32October 22, 2021 8:38 PM

I loved Vera’s pet Hamsters

by Anonymousreply 33October 22, 2021 8:44 PM
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