Jamie Lee Curtis Open Up about her Transgender Daughter Ruby

That’s one ugly goil.

That’s one ugly goil.

You can tell she is really not feeling it in that picture. Not even one iota. That face on Jamie Lee Curtis is the definition of “grin and bear it.”

Jamie Lee was rumored to have been born a hermaphrodite. The doctors or her parents chose female but she's never gone public with it.

I wonder if the situation with her child is somehow connected to her own birth circumstances? Perhaps there's a genetic marker or some set of chemical reactions in the body we don't understand yet.

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[quote] I wonder if the situation with her child is somehow connected to her own birth circumstances? Perhaps there's a genetic marker or some set of chemical reactions in the body we don't understand yet.

I think her daughter is adopted.

Oh, well there goes that theory. Thanks, r6.

Yikes

I only now looked at the " girl" in Op's link. YIKE

Maybe he figured he had nothing to lose. I doubt he was any more impressive as a man.

I want to know what the husband, Chris Guest, thinks.

Fat boy.

I'm still not sure Jamie Lee isn't a M2F trans herself.

Makes me like Jamie Lee even more.

Jamie Lee wss born inter-sexed.

I find it bizarre with the huge percentage of children of celebrities announcing they are "tans". It makes me think it is some sort of attention-demanding action for the child of a famous person who by dint of their celebrity soaks up all the attention in the room.

I still believe no one is "trans", they're just suffering from gender dysphoria which generally goes away by itself.

[quote]Jamie Lee was rumored to have been born a hermaphrodite

Yeah, here at the DL.

Gee, she didn't go public with this because?

r15 here.

I meant "trans", not "tans"!

R16. Just look at her. Intersexed. I love that my moronic str8 brother thought she was so hot until he found out she was intersexed.

Personally I preferred Adrienne Barbeau but Jamie Lee was pretty hot in her day

Her kids are adopted for a reason.

The kid has a mug more enormous than Rumer Willis. Hard to do.

Yes, she adopted because she supposedly could not have her own bio kids. More fuel for the intersex rumors.

Boobs Barbeau was a dish.

Are you including autogynophilia as gender dysphoria, R15?

Speaking of Adrienne Barbeau. Oh my! Someone needs to tell her to cover her bodice.

Jami is deeply closeted gay

Jesus Christ, spare me. Nobody is delighted that their kid hopped the trans train unless they're nuts.

The rumors about JLC being born intersexed are actually fairly credible. And the fact that she has never commented is telling.

If you read the article, Jamie's child was engaged when he was male. She is still with that person. So is that a man or a woman? Is she a transwoman married to a female? Also she could have been an ok male but is an ugly female.

For some reason, many of the MTF transwoman who are unattractive seem to partner with females. The more femme ones seem to attract males.

"I want to know what the husband, Chris Guest, thinks."

Well, don't hold your breath, because it's only women/mothers who are constantly pressured to "affirm" trans identities. They didn't ask Warren about it, and they're not going to ask Chris about it. (It's almost like sex matters, huh?)

[quote] when he was male

Still is male. Works in video game development (big surprise). He’s engaged to a woman.

It's almost always the extremely ugly, awkward, weird, untalented, troll-looking children of the celebs who go trans

Already a thread.

R32 Well there seems to be some crossover with autiSm spectrum and deciding you're trans. Also think people who live online are prone to this weird fantasizing about gender.

I heard about JLC being an XY female back in the 80s. Such people have AIS or androgen insensitivity. The genitalia look female, but there's no uterus or ovaries. The testes are internal and usually removed due to an increased cancer risk.

People with AIS don't usually know they have it until adolescence doesn't happen. At which point, they get hormones to bring it on.

Ruby ain't pretty.

The African Baby Catalogue is so ... well, 2011, dears. Trans children is where it's at now!

I have visions of Madonna screaming at Lourdes, a la Edina Monsoon, "Why couldn't you be TRANS? There'd be ONE interesting thing about you."

For anyone reading this: Its a choice every single time you demean a person by calling them ugly or fat. If that's the first and only thing you have to say about a photo posted on the site, consider skipping the comment.

It's not "literal violence" (hi "literal violence" troll). It's not a crime. It's just inappropriate in 2021. You wouldn't do it in public. I imagine a person like R1 / R2 must have been terribly bullied at school in ways that today are recognized as bullying or abusive. There's a lot of emotionally stunted and angry people on here and they sadly are overrepresented in the first 10-20 responses on any thread. It's probably why the site continues to deteriorate.

Anyway, the next time you see a photo of a person and the ONLY thing you can think to do is immediately type how ugly or fat you think the person is, consider not writing anything. Wouldn't that be crazy? To see a photo of someone who doesn't look like a swimsuit model (to you) and to not throw that thought into the world? Or taking a moment to see if you have absolutely anything else to share or contribute to a conversation on the topic?

I forgot to mention that I find R34 much less objectionable than something like R1. At least R34 has something to share. It'd be kinder to leave off the insult and I've suggested doing that, but at least he or she has something to share.

What’s bunch of cunts. Jamie Lee Curtis being anything other than a woman is Rod Stewart gallon-of-cum-being-stomach-pumped and Richard Gere gerbil-up-his-ass URBAN LEGEND. How gullible do you have to be?

Jamie Lee Curtis is a scion of Hollywood who could be a nepotistic garbage. Is she? Nope. She’s talented. Contributed to culture. Done well by herself and her family by living significant parts of their lives away from all this bullshit in Idaho. Generally been a good human. More than most of you shits typing here.

I can’t help but connect this thread with a few other trolling threads, utmost being the “Pete Buttogoeg won’t (blow) Tucker Carlson” thread.

Others have said DL is becoming more and more a troll’s den, and this thread might just be the last nail in the coffin kf that argument.

More mean-spirited and lazy comments than not. Though there are some comments trying to be insightful, or at the very least empathic. But for someone that has been revered to some degree here on DL, why can’t we extend a bit of grace to JLC’s daughter? Not a reprieve from snark… just a bit of grace?

R37 Gee, that's big of you. FWIW, I don't randomly insult people's looks, but I also believe in a basic level of honesty. Ruby is choosing to draw attention to herself. There are plenty of kids of famous people who live quietly and are ignored.

I'm sure, too, that Ruby gets lots of affirmations about her looks, so my thinking she ain't pretty is a minor matter. I ain't pretty either.

Also, if this is your level of sensitivity, what on earth are you doing here?

Marion Chambers’ grandson turned into Norman Bates.

Her true level of support is best indicated by the fact that she waited until right after opening weekend of her new movie to divulge these details.

Although it would’ve been awkward for interviewers “Speaking of slicing and dicing…”

R15 “ I still believe no one is "gay", they're just suffering from mental illness which generally goes away by itself, or with treatment.”

How would that make you feel?

To co-sign R36 & R39 this place has gone to shit. I don’t know if any of you caught the ‘Chinese tourists’ thread but yeesh either wtf is wrong with people ok here or else maybe is just a huge racist troll invasion. It’s getting dreadful to the point of it not being worth visiting this site. Now it’s just plain 4chan brand racism / anti trans / misogynistic / homophobic (???) threads around the clock.

R43, there is no comparison between gays and trans. Being attracted to the same sex is not delusional or not in accord with reality.

R44 people that weren’t gay used to say being gay was a mental disease. Now the anti trans losers on here are saying being trans is a mental disease and they are not trans.

How can you not understand the similarity? And which position that puts you in. Dopes the lot of ye.

R45, is a sanctimonious phony

Apparently Ruby is very well known in the gamer world as a game designer.

Her birth name was Thomas, and she wasn't all that unattractive as a man. She makes a bizarre looking woman.

R46 isn’t able to contradict my point so makes vague personal comments lol

[quote]people that weren’t gay used to say being gay was a mental disease. Now the anti trans losers on here are saying being trans is a mental disease and they are not trans. How can you not understand the similarity?

R45 There is NO similarity. Gays don't require medical/chemical intervention to be gay. Gays don't require collective personal/social delusion to be gay. Gays don't require rejection of biology to be gay. Most of all, gays don't require irrational hectoring to prove that they are gay, nor are they compelled to post the identical "similarity" nonsense every time the topic is "trans".

R45 Similarity? Absolutely NOT!

Gays don't believe they're in the wrong body.

Gays don't need to chemically and medically mutilate themselves to feel good about themselves.

Gays don't need to replicate the worst, most demeaning, most insulting aspects of regressive social stereotypes to feel good about themselves.

Gays don't need to usurp another gender's identity and demand that others affirm their fantasy and whims.

Gays don't need to continually hector others to suspend science and common sense.

X and Y chromosomes are not an opinion subject to fashion or imposition by governmental coercion.

[quote][R15] “ I still believe no one is "gay", they're just suffering from mental illness which generally goes away by itself, or with treatment.”

[quote]How would that make you feel?

It would make me giggle and feel sorry for you and your dopey obsession with ignoring facts. Being gay has nothing to do with gender dysphoria and gay people never want to have their dicks cut off, or pretend gender is a matter of choice like soup or salad.

Is there anything else you'd like to know while I'm here?

When is she going to come out as a hermaphrodite?

After HALLOWEEN ENDS?

R36 You type fat.

[quote] Most of all, gays don't require irrational hectoring to prove that they are gay,

R49 if someone doubted or disbelieved you when you said you were gay, tell me how you’d prove it? What biological essentialist would you put forth? Oh that’s right you can’t, it’s based on a social observance of the phenomenon (gays existing) and then self determination as part of that group. Trans people are just trying to do the same. Now fuck off back to mumsnet x.

All God's children are beautiful and deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. JLC & Ruby are brave and courageous to tell their personal family story. Enlightenment is the true beacon of human civilization, and some people just need to take that first step out of the deep recesses of darkness, ignorance and intolerance, and appeal to their inner power of Love with an open mind, an open heart, and the best of intentions. Love > hate.

R55 Physical attraction can be measured and has been.

STFU woke tranny troll @ R56. How tiresome. No. Aggressive, obnoxious, delusional, insane creeps playing pretend do not need to be respected. Trans are deeply disturbed and need therapy to be "enlightened" to accept their own true, immutable bio sex.

Oooooh, the tranny schoolmarm has spoken at R36.

Will JLC set Ruby up with Jaclyn Moore, so they can bump shenises?

R21 beat me to it...I had no clue that Rumor Willis was Janet Leigh and Tony Curtis' granddaughter!

Mental illness feeding off social media likes.

[quote] why can’t we extend a bit of grace to JLC’s daughter?

Because he’s not her daughter, he’s her son. He is a man. Nothing can change that.

Lying to him about reality can only be detrimental to his mental health. Deep down this man knows he’s not a woman and will never be one.

Conversely that he and others like him demanding we lie to ourselves is offensive. I’m not going to deny reality in order to make men like this feel better about their choices. There is no grace in any of this.

Curtis will exploit any personal problem for media attention. She’s doing this right now to promote a movie. I’m sick of hearing her pious tone. Stunning and brave stunning and brave....

THIS is tranny culture: make the woman afraid to speak. Slow your thinking/ speaking down, stupid. Walk on eggshells. LET ME CONTROL YOUR FEAR OF OFFENDING. Let me control what you say. She should fuck off with educating the masses about her sons mental issues to sell her current film.

"It's speaking a new language," she says. "It's learning new terminology and words. I am new at it. I am not someone who is pretending to know much about it. And I'm going to blow it, I'm going to make mistakes. I would like to try to avoid making big mistakes." "You slow your speech down a little. You become a little more mindful about what you're saying. How you're saying it. You still mess up, I've messed up today twice. “

[quote]if someone doubted or disbelieved you when you said you were gay, tell me how you’d prove it?

[quote]What biological essentialist would you put forth?

[quote] it’s based on a social observance of the phenomenon (gays existing) and then self determination as part of that group.

[quote]Trans people are just trying to do the same.

R55 Uh, no. "Trans" people are hectoring to suspend biology, rationality and sense to accommodate their whim and fancy. There is no "biological existentialism" in whim/fancy. Neither is "social observance", "phenomenon" or "self-determination" predicated on whim/fancy. "Trans" are a bunch of sad, sick fucks attempting to regulate language, thought and society itself to satisfy their overwhelming control jones.

^^^ "biological essentialism ^^^^

They could have got the poor kid a chin implant.

Tony Curtis was an absentee father and we see how fucked up Jamie Lee is and now she’s raised a fucked up kid. The feminists said you don’t need a father here’s the outcome. Generation later it comes out.

[quote] "It's speaking a new language," she says. "It's learning new terminology and words. I am new at it. I am not someone who is pretending to know much about it. And I'm going to blow it, I'm going to make mistakes. I would like to try to avoid making big mistakes." "You slow your speech down a little. You become a little more mindful about what you're saying. How you're saying it. You still mess up, I've messed up today twice. “

This is such bullshit. So she has to walk on eggshells around her kid 24/7 and parse every single word out of her mouth for fear of offending him? Fuck that. I changed my name legally for professional reasons when I was 21. My extended family still calls me by my original name when they see me and I don't correct them, even though I've gone by my current name longer than my original. It's not how I want to be addressed, but they're family and they aren't offending me, even though that name is not who I am. And I'm certainly not going to jump down their throats every time they "deadname" me (such a stupid word, and no, I'm not trans). Who cares? Who has the energy to walk around ready to be offended every moment of the day. For a bunch of people who are finally living their truth, they sure are miserable about it.

Tony and Jamie used to shoot coke together. That’s fucked up.

Jamie must have only watched Psycho until her mother’s death, otherwise she would know how this turns out.

Why do trans always pick stripper names?

[quote] Tony and Jamie used to shoot coke together. That’s fucked up.

Amateur

Has Manchelle commented yet?

To me this just feels like a trend.

[quote] If you read the article, Jamie's child was engaged when he was male.

Was male? What exactly defines “male” and “female” if anyone can simply declare themselves one or the other? This person is and always will be male. Sex is not a feeling – it’s a immutable biological fact.

Poor Ruby. She's no more attractive as a woman than when she was a man.

I don’t personally know anything about this movement. I wish everyone well. But I do wonder where everyone will be in, say, 10 years.

I've always loved Jamie Lee. She's a daughter of two famous people who is talented and iconic in her own right and not some druggies mess. Loved her mom Janet Leigh too.

Edit : druggie mess

I don't remotely understand how somebody in their twenties in fall of 2018 wears men's clothing, a man's haircut, and a moustache and by summer 2021 they are "a woman."

You just know Christopher Guest has to be dying a thousand deaths over this. Remember Harry Shearer at the end of A Mighty Wind?

Say what you will, Jamie Lee has a great pair of tits.

R84 I'm jealous!

I’ve assumed for many years that Jamie Lee Curtis is a Lesbian.

The anti-trans troll here is Matt the Loon, who is deeply mentally disturbed.

Ruby’s bio dad

Well said r65 & r70. JLC is engaging in covert admonition, attempting to sow seeds of guilt in the minds of those who see the game for what it really is.

I just can't understand how sane people have so quickly been dragged into this ridiculous scheme. It's mind-bending to watch people fall in line to acquiesce all notion of perspicacity and rationality. Someone upthread mentioned "the emperor's new clothes", that perfectly describes the " trans" racket.

“Racket”. Love it, r89

Right, R87. Every post that questions trans activism and ideology is Bedknobs and Broomsticks Boy. Who else could possibly object to their delusions or their tactics?

It's a gah-goil, R1.

Well you must admit, r91, that anyone that idolizes Bedknobs and Broomsticks is off their rocker a bit.

[quote] I changed my name legally for professional reasons when I was 21. My extended family still calls me by my original name when they see me and I don't correct them, even though I've gone by my current name longer than my original. It's not how I want to be addressed, but they're family and they aren't offending me, even though that name is not who I am. And I'm certainly not going to jump down their throats every time they "deadname" me (such a stupid word, and no, I'm not trans). Who cares?

That's exactly my situation, r70. My birth name is female-sounding. My current name male-sounding (I'm not trans, either).

Life's too short.

I’ve always liked JLC and I still do. I think she’s doing her best in a messy situation. “Ruby”?? The choice of name and choice of clothes in that photo give the game away. Also, an established gamer… Jamie Lee looks unhappy and right-faced in that photo. She is struggling with this.

*tight-faced

It must be very difficult for individuals like Ruby who don’t “pass” as the opposite gender.

Imagine fat people demand to be referred to as skinny? And choose new names like Slim and Twiggy?

R97 wasn't cute as a guy either

Could he be any more of a stereotype? Ugly fat dude who designs video games for a living. No doubt obsessed with anime, too.

I miss the '80s, when people like this just called themselves Pagan.

[quote] It must be very difficult for individuals like Ruby who don’t “pass” as the opposite gender.

He works in an industry where a lot of these guys congregate.

Also, any trans person who is as wealthy as he is but doesn't bother to laser that 5 o'clock mustache shadow isn't trying very hard.

Quality tweet.

[quote]JLC is engaging in covert admonition.

It's hard to know. I saw her words and awkward genuflections as those of a long-frustrated parent with a (figurative) gun to her head.

I read it as Jamie Lee, on the surface, being supportive, but also, there was a little "Do you hear me saying all of the exact things you want me to say? You're still going to criticize me later because I've NEVER been able to say the right thing to you! Not even today when I told you I was writing this. I'm bad bad bad! Does this help?"

Maybe she really is going to (try to) jump through all of the hoops required to avoid conflict.

Between the gaming/spectrum-mindset many of these people have and the sudden power that they've been given by the media, it all feels a little like some sort of revenge of the nerds.

The second child of Dawn Davenport and her own father, all growed-up. When do we tell her about Taffy?

[quote]Between the gaming/spectrum-mindset many of these people have and the sudden power that they've been given by the media, it all feels a little like some sort of revenge of the nerds.

Don't forget the attention. It's a trifecta for invisible, socially awkward, aspie nerds.

It's obvious that JLC is fully aware that Ruby is talking horseshit and that she thinks this trans crap is nonsense, but she feels obliged to go along with it as a loving parent.

No doubt, Ruby is also exercising an element of control over her parents.

Ruby, don't take your love to town.

A friend of mine’s trans kid has that keen interest in anime. I didn’t know it was a thing.

Has there been a reunion with the son and his bio family? Hey, our son was adopted by a Hollywood movie star and now looks like her aunt.

R99 He was a little cuter as a male. Looked like a nice, quiet nerdy guy. Now as a woman she looks like she sits on Twitter all day complaining about how everything in existence is offensive.

[quote] Tony Curtis was an absentee father and we see how fucked up Jamie Lee is and now she’s raised a fucked up kid. The feminists said you don’t need a father here’s the outcome. Generation later it comes out.

So gays shouldn’t have children. Got it.

Looks like Sarah Paulson in a fat suit.

Jamie is not interested or a hermaphrodite.

Ruby her name, rugby her game.

Except JLC is intersexed.

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R36, sorry, but while someone may not call someone 'ugly' in person, if they're fat, they're FAT. It's a fact, while 'ugly' is subjective.

The kid looked okay as a man. Just a normal, average looking man.

In the OP's link, he looks like a BIG BABY GIRL DOLL, complete with a baby doll hairdo, all dressed up for Halloween.

[quote] Jamie Lee looks unhappy and right-faced in that photo. She is struggling with this.

Hopefully she doesn't start abusing painkillers again.

A lot of adopted children have identity issues and make a detour into trans world as a quick fix. Not surprised that the daughter/son is adopted.

The issues often emerge in the teen years.

Baron Haden-Guest needs to divorce this women and her weird, adopted kids. He still has time to create a second family. That way his title (the more important issue at hand) doesn't leave the bloodline.

*woman

Is any celebrity parents of a trans child ever going to come out and say something honest like "We're having trouble accepting it, but we do love our child" or "We're worried about her future heath and wellbeing"? I always loved Cher's mixed reaction to her daughter's initial coming out. She freely admitted that she struggled and was very "unCher-like" about it. She was just so honest and I'm not sure society permits that level of honesty anymore.

So many responses are manufactured nowadays.

Ruby! Has anyone ever met anyone skinny named Ruby?

Fuck Jamie Lee. She’s nuts.

[quote]I still believe no one is "gay", they're just suffering from mental illness which generally goes away by itself, or with treatment.”

Except all studies, forever, have shown that gay doesn't go away by itself or with "treatment". However, all studies show that most people claiming to be T will detransition by themselves or with treatment. Sorry reality sucks for you.

Years ago I had a MD professor in a Human Development class teaching about hermaphroditism. Yes, this was long ago & intersex wasn't used as a term yet. He was describing it. He used JLC by name as well known in the medical community as a hermaphrodite.I would imagine it could be very embarrassing for someone who is an actor.

She looks so uncomfortable in that photo w. Ruby. Wonder if its' a grand FU from Ruby to JLC, knowing how this would effect JLC if she is intersex. Some adopted kids are forever angry for their status no matter how well treated by adoptive families.

[quote]Hopefully she doesn't start abusing painkillers again.

Hopefully she doesn't start abusing Activia again.

At least now we know what David Schwimmer would look like in drag.

Is Michael Myers actually a tranny?

Is that why he kills?

Alok's gotten hold of her. Her Facebook followers are trying to warn her, but...

Ruby...such an exotic name for such a compelling dame.

Ruby on Twitter.

More Ruby. Ain't she lovely?

Stinky links at r135. Here's lovely Ruby.