Have you personally ever known a convicted pedophile?

Convicted? No. With conviction? Yes.

Kid I went to middle school and was friendly with, who had very legit reasons for being mentally fucked up, is now serving a life term for rape and attempted murder of an 8 year old girl.

No thank god. It must be hard not beating the shit out of them.

A high school teacher of mine was convicted but served an unfortunately short sentence. I think it was because the kid was an older teenager.

Used to have a neighbor who was one. She had been a junior high teacher who’d molested a male student and been in prison. She was a real scam artist too.

Yes.

Yes. A friend from high school dated a guy that attended the same school. He was the football star in school, but was an alcoholic loser as an adult. Friend still saw him as the hot guy from high school. He moved in with her and drank a case of beer every night. One night he molested her daughter while black out drunk. He ended up being convicted and sent to jail 4-5 years ago, and I see that he is on Facebook now as a suggested friend (presumably out already).

I knew a guy who sold his very successful business to open a small rescue for cats. Nicest person I ever knew, everyone liked him. Did three years in prison and lost everything. I'm not positive but I think it was an underage prostitute not a child. I think that he and the boy were caught in the act.

R8, were they rescue cats?

A guy I was good friends with 30 years ago had parents that owned a daycare in their home. I saw his dad on the news about 10 years ago, having been arrested on 3 counts of molestation. He’s now in prison for life. My friend drank himself to death a few years later. Sad tragic end. He was a partier in his 20s like we all were but he never slowed down his drinking. I wonder if he had been a victim too, or at least knew about it.

A drag queen with whom I was acquainted was, as a trainer for Holiday Inn, was charged and convicted of a sex offense in California.

I never really found out what he did. He said he had said some inappropriate things to a 15 year-old in an elevator, but I don’t believe that.

His performance name was Mary K. Mart and after his release from a California jail he came back to Raleigh.

During his incarceration, the light bill and a few other bills at his house he shared with two other queens were paid for by the local AIDS organization, for which he’d raised almost a million dollars for through their drag bingo events.

After he came back, he was restricted from having a Facebook account and had to register as a sex offender, but continued to operate Facebook presence for his gray persona.

Criminal, but since I had nothing so to with that Trumpian group during the time I was none of my business.

Regardless, Brigner Milne the manager/owner of Flex knew. So did the head of the AIDS Service Agency of NC, but that group has been flushed out.

She was popular on G105 FM during that time too.

Horrible, diseased, whore. Hope she dies in a grease fire.

Sue me, Mary.

It's a disease, and you have to think of it as that. You can have sympathy with someone for having the affliction, but they have to be separated from minors at all times. They can't be relied upon to resist their compulsions. This doesn't mean that they can't otherwise be decent, contributing people, but they must never be given that sort of opportunity. This is the reason why "positions of trust" are so labeled.

Sort of. I've never actually had a conversation with him but I have a neighbor who is in his mid 30s and lives with his parents. I see him walking the dog past my house almost daily. Anyway, I checked the sex offender registry one night out of curiosity to see how many there were in my area. I didn't expect to see anyone I recognized, but sure enough this neighbor was there. Naturally I wanted details of what he actually did. I Googled his name and found a news article about him being sentenced to 4 years for child porn. I was pretty surprised.

One of my sister’s friends, her son’s soccer coach, was later convicted of child molestation (of a girl). We’d warned my sister that something seemed really off about the guy but she didn’t listen. He served about 18 months in a low security jail, is out now & I’m sure isn’t coaching. I’d met him a few times & once went to dinner with him in a group. Very grateful he didn’t do anything to my niece or nephews.

A high school teacher I once knew (who was also the boys' soccer coach) was rumored to have fucked more than one student over the years. I heard the names but nothing ever came of it until he picked the wrong girl I guess. He was caught and sentenced to 5 years in prison. She got up in court and said she loved him and would never forgive herself for ruining his life. I also seem to remember someone making a comment that he had a picture of one of the soccer players on his desk, but none of his wife. So he very well could've had male victims as well.

I once worked with a guy who eventually got sent upstate for creating and distributing child porn. As I understand it, the imagery was of post-pubescent girls (i.e. not infants or little kids, but still gross and criminal).

He seemed pretty normal. He was late-30s and his girlfriends were always on the young side, like 18-20, but I never would’ve thought he was up to anything as sinister as he was actually doing.

Yes. The husband of my supervisor. I met him a couple of times, very much a good old Southern boy and he looked like Santa. He instinctively creeped me the fuck out. Anyway, long after my supervisor retired and I took over her job, I come to learn that he was a convicted child molester who had inappropriately touched his own granddaughters. I don't think he served time, so he must've plea bargained it out. All this had happened years before I began working under her. Couldn't stand her either -- total crazy bitch. I don't know how that woman could have stayed with that man after knowing what he'd done to their own grandchildren. Apparently the kids and grandkids now have nothing to do with him. Oh, and of course, they're good Southern Christians too. Sorry I ever heard the whole disgusting backstory.

there was one who lived down the street from us; we used to get their mail and vice versa; the guy went to prison; some speculated he was framed over a drug deal and someone got the kids to lie.

it was all so sad; he FINALLY got out of jail years later and tried getting work. I'd moved away and wasn't sure what had happened to him.

My cousin ran an identity theft ring. He was caught for that and the cops found loads of child porn on his computer. He went to prison, escaped twice, and is still there. That whole side of the family is messed up.

A dude who used to bartend at one of the biggest gay bars in town was known for liking them young. He actually looked really young for his age, 22, himself. He got caught in a sting messaging a decoy posed as a 14 y/o boy on AOL. His family had money so they were able to plea it down from attempted sexual assault of a minor to something like unwanted sexual contact.

He had to register as a sex offender for a couple of years so he moved into his parents house about an hour out of town and still worked for the same bar. Only a few people knew about what happened.

Before he was caught he regularly talked about hooking up with high school boys. Not many of us thought much about it because, hey, he was only 22. I ran into him years later and found out he was "engaged" to an 18 year old who looked much younger. When he was 33.

He's now married to someone a bit more age appropriate, only about a 6 year age difference. Only reason I know this is because he's married to my ex, who more than likely married him for his money.

I think he's still messaging kids but I have no way of proving it.

Yes, R12, you could call it a disease. It is certainly a paraphilia. I think of it as more of a compulsion. While there are those with it who will never offend those who do will do it again and again. As you said they can never be trusted. For those with any escalating behavior or repeated incidents, those people may never be capable of stopping for good. And quite frankly they usually don't want to stop, they will seek it out.

Yes. My best friend's alcoholic/drug addict father molested him when my friend was six years old. He denied. He was convicted. He spent time in prison. He still denies it to this day. He says he "might" have done it, but "if" he did, it was the alcohol which causes hand tremors and one of those "tremors may have" caused him to fondle his six year old son's penis and he has no recollection of it.

After he got out of prison, he married a woman and they had two kids together. By the time the eldest one was six years old, they were divorced and he is not allowed to see the kids at all...not even supervised visits. No charges were filed against him, but the contact order with his kids combined with his record, seems to lead to only one conclusion.

I know someone who is currently in jail for sexually assaulting children (relatives). This is someone I've known well for over thirty years, but sort of lost touch with in the last decade or so. They are blaming his irrational behavior on a drug he's been taking, but I don't know. Can any prescription drug cause such disinhibition? It's tragic, he's never so much as said an off-color or disrespectful thing in his life, where did this come from?

Interestingly, R8 I found this using quick google search. It's about "what jobs can sex offenders do?"

Some areas that sex offenders may be able to get a job include:

Truck Driving. There are a number of truck driving jobs available with companies that are willing to hire felons with a sex offense.

Construction. ...

Restaurants. ...

Animal Shelters. ...

Temp Agencies. ...

Self-Employment. ...

Online.

OP here. Had shock recently to discover acquaintance convicted not long ago. Can't nominate the country as being careful. Been reading about pedophilia last few days. This person I knew (or know) is a hard core alcoholic, accused of molesting young family member. He was spared jail. I know he has a history - a long history of incestuous behavior.

Funny how trials do not capture entire essence of that person so jury only sees portion of the accused's life and that portion presented is further diluted so that the accused looks for all intents and purposes innocent of charges.

Unbelievable.

What the fuck are you talking about r25/OP?

I wish I could link the court case, r26. Might explain a bit better than I am at the moment.

And ex boyfriend of mine. I was a twink (but NOT underage) when I dated him

R12, most people who offend against kids are attracted to adults, they're opportunists

I saw on those sex offenders list a guy who lives in my town who grew up about a block from where I grew up. I used to play as a child with his older brother.

A friend went to prison for five years. If the kid had been three months older, there would have been no crime.

Yes, r29. Been also reading up on "fixated" versus "fixated-regressive" pedophiles. You spend days reading up on all the theories. The "regresssive" concept is an interesting theory and explain person I knew/know as described in r25.

Regressive pedophiles - Regressive pedophiles are people who are primarily sexually attracted to adults but will substitute a child when under stress or given the opportunity. ... They have identified traits often found in people with the disorder, whom they classify as preferential or situational child molesters.

OP here:

The trouble with the fixated-regressive theory is that in the case of my "acquaintance", this person has the drive or desire towards kids or pre-pubescents all his life. So, not really a "coping" mechanism but more a lifestyle all the time. But he is not the dried in the wool pure pedophile either because he was married, conducted adult relationships in his life, so he was not 100% fixated on kids. Having that said, it also as another poster said, a crime of "opportunity." This one incident that went to the jury was definitely a crime of "opportunity" but it is much deeper than this - he's had this 'affliction' all his life.

My brother was into photography as a young team and met this guy who was older and a photographer. My dad kept warning my brother that the guy gave off a creep vibe. Years later he was convicted of creating child porn.

A neighbor on our cul-de-sac molested his granddaughter. He wasn't convicted but I believe it. He used to stop his car when I was playing in the street and get me a peck on the mouth and asked me when I was going to come and see him. That stopped once I reached about 8 years old.

A guy I worked with was convicted. He was an asshole who tried to bully me when I first started working there. He had grown up in the foster care system and became a wrestling coach. The police put caution tape around his cubical and he spent time, but only a few years. He had been coaching for a long time so I'm sure there were many crimes he wasn't prosecuted for.

Don't confuse Pedophilia with Ephebophilia, sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.

There is no good reason for a grown man to have sex with a child. That's why God gave us Asians.

[quote] Don't confuse Pedophilia with Ephebophilia

Hi. It took you a while to show up on this thread.

[quote]Have you personally ever known a convicted pedophile?

No, because I associate only with intelligent people.

Paraphilias and intelligence are unrelated to my knowledge.

A friend's ex went to jail for a few years for having an underage boyfriend. I don't know much more than that. He's out now. I ran into him on a Zoom meeting around Christmas, but I didn't feel like getting into a conversation about it. He'd always seemed like a decent guy, if somewhat prissy and royals-obsessed.

[quote] somewhat prissy and royals-obsessed

He's a DLer!

My neighbour had some kids with this guy who would come around occasionally. One day I went outside to talk to her and she said that she was waiting for someone to come take the guy away because he confessed that he wanted to touch her daughter. Tbh I can't remember if he was the father or her boyfriend. He didn't seem like the type at all, if there is a type anyway. He was probably in his mid 20s at the time.

R11 What is your native language?

Yes, he met a girl on a website-text chatted and asked her age twice. He went to her house and asked her again. They have sex and the grandparents come home. She's 16 and it's the third time she got caught. Mandatory sentence. When the police questioned him he showed them the texts and the girl confirmed his story. NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE WHEN YOU ARE THE SUBJECT.

I was managing an apartment /motel in Denver and there was one guy who everybody just loved. He was cute,in his early 30s,great personality .Very popular around the complex. We all had noticed he liked them young,as in barely legal young. We used to tease him about finding his next boyfriend in an elementary school . It never occurred to us those boys were in fact very young,as in illegally . I should also mention he was bi,its pertinent to the story. He takes up with this woman who has a 12 year old son (again,no one thought much of it,he was dating his mother) and he would often have the boy over for weekends,etc. One day Im sitting in the office and I see a bunch of cop cars flying in,and they run up to his apt and drag his ass out in cuffs. When I asked the cops what the hell was going on,he told me he had been having sex with the 12 year old and filming it. he got 15 years. We ended up throwing out everything in his apt as his family refused to come get it. Wasnt much left as the cops trashed it big time. We were all so shocked ,though in hindsight we shouldnt have been.People just didnt think that way then.

Yes. Was a physician.

Now, a “senior associate” at an Amazon warehouse.

[quote] [R12], most people who offend against kids are attracted to adults, they're opportunists

Some, but not most. Being attracted to children (sexually) is a paraphilia and a compulsion.

Why aren’t people smarter about bringing people that they’re dating around their kids? I wouldn’t trust ANYONE alone with my kids if I had them. My Aunt left my Uncle and married a new man in the early 80’s. It came out recently that he sexually abused all 3 of her daughters from a previous marriage. They didn’t tell anyone until after he died, and each of the 3 girls thought they were the only one he molested.

R47, a lot of the mothers are untreated victims of sexual predators who never got criminally charged. That, plus low self-esteem and don't care enough about their children.

I was in a sports league with a guy who disappeared. A few people knew what had happened (his jailing) and word got around. I drove him home one night long before any of this happened. He seemed normal if unremarkable to me. I sometimes wonder when I pass the building now, what happened to his apartment? What happened to his stuff? How does a single perv plan for going to jail? No idea what happened to him or how long he went in for. I can't imagine any of us will ever see him again.

[quote] What happened to his stuff?

Someone one DL got it.

Two of my childhood coaches (soccer and gymnastics) *and* my parish priest. Nothing ever happened to me( thankfully.

It’s not fair but it has made me wary of adults who work in child-centered jobs.

[quote] Nothing ever happened to me( thankfully. It’s not fair

It's because you weren't that attractive.

Well…I am a frau! ;-)

"This doesn't mean that they can't otherwise be decent, contributing people, but they must never be given that sort of opportunity."

Yeah.... No. Men who rape children aren't "otherwise decent, contributing" people, let's just stop this nonsense right now.

Yep. My 6th grade history teacher.

Two of my brothers, a stepbrother and a brothers inlaw.

I don't know any pedos, but I've watched a lot of sting videos on YT and Facebook. What appalls me most is that 99% of the time, when the guy is asked why he contacted/arranged to meet a child, their answer is "I don't know". Why will they never say the truth... I'm attracted to kids and want to have sex with them. Then they make excuses like I was drunk, mental illness, boredom, I was playing around, I didn't really think they were X age. That burns me also, because alcohol doesn't make you like kids. I watch these stings for the same reason I watch court shows - I like to see justice done and creeps exposed.

I was thinking of starting a thread on the many predator catching teams on Youtube and Facebook, to see if there any other fans on here that would like to discuss them. If I get 5-10 positive answers, I'll do it. There we can discuss: Ghost/CC Unit, Nito/Pop Squad, Tommy/CPP, Alex/PP Official, DAP, PCI, UK groups, etc.

My first cousin. I don't know exactly what he did to his baby daughter, but he got sent to jail for 50 years for it. His dad said it was all a big misunderstanding. He was just let out after 40 years. In the meantime, his mom and brother died and his father just turned 90. We're his only other relatives - I just hope we don't get a phone call from him.

[quote] His dad said it was all a big misunderstanding.

The baby was 12 months but looked 18 months! I swear!

There’s a difference going after children and having sex with teens, esp older teens. All are wrong but there is something deeply sick and violent when someone goes after a child. Having sex with a teen is not on the same level as those who go after children. Those who go after children would also do other horrific crimes like murder.

Not a pedophile per se, but a guy from my high school is on the sex offender list in my state and another for something to do with a minor. He was in his early twenties, met a girl in a bar (fake ID) and messed around with her a few times. She was 15. He was gorgeous when young so women would easily bed him. It’s ruined his life but he hasn’t lost his friends.

R60, the vast majority of child molesters are not murderers

R62 I didn’t say they were but to want to have sex with and actually have sex with a child, not a teen, you are capable of darker shit.

Has anybody looked at porn? Both straight and gay porn is all about young and old fucking. It is soooo obvious they try to make the younger look like a younger teen (14-16). All the Barely Legal porn? Those are very popular videos judging by the volume of them. I think most of us have to admit a huge % of people would have sex with teens if they could get away with it. Fucking children is sick beyond belief. There is a difference even if both are wrong.

A teacher from my high school was a big perv and apparently had a collection of pornographic keychains(!) in his classroom desk which he showed to his favorite male students.

He eventually transferred to another school in the region and was fired for having a relationship with a 14yo female student.

There was a counselor at my 4-H camp that was great with kids - not cloying, or some sort of stunted adult, but the kind of adult that actually seemed to enjoy being around kids. I thought the guy was great even though camp was a mixed bag. A couple of years later, he was accused of molesting a camper and as soon as he got out of jail, he shot himself. So he was never actually convicted, but others came forward about being molested by the guy. This was years before the Catholic church/Boy Scout scandals when there was a better understanding of why people would bury that stuff for years.

R35 I'll be going to hell for laughing at that one.

I had a coworker that was in jail for a couple of years prior to working with me.

I told him about my juvenile arrests as a shoplifter and arsonist (yeah I was a Winona fire bug when I was a teenager) so he came out to me as a sex offender during a night of drinking.

Basically his ex-wife was cheating on him during their marriage. He wanted to get back at her so he had a sexual relationship with a live-in maid who was 17 (she was from Mexico so it was off the books obviously) when his wife caught them in bed. She filed for divorce and went to the cops. Obviously, she got deported.

He did dodge a bullet though, so to speak. His wife caught him fingering her (as opposed to intercourse) so he was only charged with lewd and lascivious Acts on a minor involving digital penetration. He would have gone down if she caught them fucking.

He became an alcoholic, then recovered, got cancer and recovered. He's really chill now. But I guess having a serious disease will do that to you.

[quote]There’s a difference going after children and having sex with teens, esp older teens.

Yeah right. Another common characteristic of successful pedos is the ability to talk themselves out of any kind of trouble, getting people to ignore the evidence of their own eyes and reassure them that everything's just fine and nothing happened, plus that kid is a lying whore who seduced THEM. If they're too young they're too young and you don't get to make that call based on whether or not you personally find them fuckable.

Whereas you might physically damage a prepubescent child, give them STDs, and otherwise fuck them up psychologically for life, if you fuck an underaged teen you might given them STDs, fuck them up psychologically for life, and, if it's a female, get them pregnant.

The closest I got was a teacher in our junior high. He supposedely diddled some of the boys and then, when he knew he was caught, shot his own head off.

R69 There is still a huge difference b/w children and teens. Huge. Both are wrong but both don’t necessarily cause equal damage. For instance, consent laws are all over the map- 14 is ok here, 16 here, 17, here, 18 here. WHAT? We as a society don’t even agree when it is OK in the teen years. If it is consensual with a teen, it is not as damaging as if it is non consensual of course. Again, both are wrong.

And in most states, with parental consent, you can marry off you son or daughter as young as 11. One woman in KY married an 11 year old boy. All legal.

R67, that's me at R59.

R71, in fairness, Kentucky is a model to live by with respect to absolutely fucking nothing.

Since we're in the neighbourhood of trouble with under twenties, how's Kentucky on Christmas whoopsies? Colorado is up-tight.

R73 It is not just KY.

And Evangelicals are behind keeping the laws in place for being allowed to marry the young.

Another male teacher from my high school would invite attractive, well-built young guys to do things outside of school, usually education-related, like going to a museum, etc. He also had a boat and invited male students to go on the boat with him. He eventually made sexual advances on most of these students and seemed to favor sophomores.

The handsome, athletic teacher was well-respected by faculty, students and parents alike. He won statewide (and possibly nationwide) awards. For years, the male students he propositioned never made an issue about it - this was the early to mid-80’s and that’s just how it was. A couple of years after I graduated his luck ran out and a student complained about him. Still, I don’t think there was any legal action, just an “agree to resign” agreement.

Yes. Years after I moved away from the area, a former supervisor was convicted of possessing in excess of 17,000 images of child porn (the court reported all images were of minor boys and girls, who were strangers). He served just under six years in prison, had to register as a sex offender for life, and has ten years of supervised probation. He's turning 75 in a few weeks...so there's a chance he might not live through the entire ten years of probation. I won't be shedding any tears for that sick fuck.

There's a nasty drag queen I knew who apparently got caught messing with some underage boy and was away from town for a while - somehow, she came back. She's a fat vile cunt. Yes Michelle M we're talking about you.

I knew someone in college who I thought would be a success. He became the world's biggest loser and hooked up with the world's second biggest loser. I used to talk to him every so often but when he implied he was playing with his BF's teenage son I got physically ill. I don't know if he was serious, but apparently others were told the same, also were revolted and no one talks to him any more.

Oh yeah, one of my old teachers. (I had him as a teacher in the early 90s but he just got caught circa 2015)

And also one of my youth group advisors, but that doesn't surprise me, because (a) he was a creep from the word go and (b) that group was a cesspool of older dudes chasing younger ones.

I saw a video on YT of a documentary made in the late 70's/early 80's, with interviews of various pedos. Every story was horrible but there was one particularly haunting -- a man described how he repeatedly raped his own 10 year old son, while also wrapping the boys head in plastic to cut off his oxygen. He'd watch until the boy's face turned blue, then rip off the plastic. This went on for years until the boy finally told someone.

The part that is terrifying is that the man looked like your typical suburban dad and spoke in a rational way about his crime, as he describes committing incest and attempted murder on his own child regularly. The thing is that pedos are so selfish - his compulsion gave his son trauma for the rest of his life. I hope he's still rotting in jail.

In grade school I had a geography teacher who they basically arrested at the school. We were in class, he got called out by the principal, and never returned.

It was later revealed that they had charged him for molesting several boys from the school and that they anticipated more victims. He looked harmless, like Santa with his white beard and round face. His MO was to bring the kids to his house which I never understood how he pulled off, repeatedly no less. Mind you, we are talking about the 80s. No clue what happened to him.

When you read hazing stories, the ones where the football team/fraternity members initiate a new member by sticking a broomstick in their butt... do you consider those people pedos?

I'm in Generation X and those pedophile creeps were so prevalent in the 70s, 80s, 90s. Adults approached me in a sexual manner on multiple occasions starting in grade school and all the way through adolescence. So much horrible stuff happened to so many kids in those days. I'm glad that it seems that it is being swept under the rug less often and that the ignorance and attitudes are changing about this horrible fucking shit. I have no idea what makes them tick but they sure don't give a shit if they destroy a child and leave them damaged for life. I think that they were probably abused themselves as children combined with also being utter and complete no good pieces of shit.

An elementary school teacher in the county was removed from his position in the 90’s because he liked to invite students to his office to tickle them. I don’t think he was arrested, just advised he needed to address his mental health.

^ Literally hard to keep that one quiet.

Yes, I am early GenX/latest boomer era and the amount of pervs around in my formative years was staggering.

In 2005, I did some regional theatre as a chorus member out in the middle of nowhere. You wouldn't think it considering the area, but the theatre was quite big and successful (multiple stages), and integrated into the community (huge fundraisers, families hosted actors, etc). The cast was very outgoing and lovely, but I was a bit of a loner and, at the time, lacked confidence (I wasn't at the same level of these people professionally, talent-wise, etc). Anyway, I did hang out with another cast-member a lot for the first few weeks (we were both in our early 30s), who was more social than I was and had a big personality and seemed really nice. Sometime late in the rehearsal period right before we opened, he didn't show up one day. The word was that he was arrested for sex/solicitation of a minor. I don't remember anything (or how we found out) other than the kid he was with was supposed to be 14. Even though this was the middle-of-nowhere and pre-social media, the theatre world is small, and word got around (friends of mine who weren't associated with the plays I was in knew about it). He was never heard from again.

I got along really well with him and thought we had a connection, and then that happened. I remember feeling really depressed, because we were becoming friends, and now he was gone and, on top of it, a child molester. I haven't thought about him in ages. I can't even remember his name. I hope he got help, and his victims are okay.

[quote] In 2005, I did some regional theatre as a chorus member out in the middle of nowhere.

New Haven?

lol R89.

Also, (I know this isn't a conviction story, as my last post I guess wasn't technically either) I moved to L.A. a few years later, and I met a guy through myspace (!). We went on a date. He was a private investigator (!). I mean, who knows how successful he was. It could have been a load of crap. I got a sense that he came from money.

Anyway, I wasn't interested in him sexually, but was hoping to be friends, as I was new in town. We went into the Valley one day and hung out with some of his friends/acquaintances. I just remember there was a hot-tub. One of the guys in it was in his late 20s/30s and claimed to be a cinematographer and he was with someone much younger than him. Looking back, I can't remember the age, but I do recall one of the guys there saying how he liked them young. I didn't stay too long, as I was uncomfortable around these guys and the vibe was weird.

Looking back, I get a sense that these guys ran in the same circles as Bryan Singer.

I attended two different high schools in my county. At the first one, a female student became involved with a teacher and coach when she was 14. They married as soon as she graduated.

At the other school there were two male teachers (mid-30’s) who sponsored the Ski Club. On the ski trips they would ply the girls with booze and weed and then bang the ones they fancied. I am not sure why there were no parents on these trips - again, it was the 80’s so parents generally didn’t expect the teachers to be pervs.

[quote] a female student became involved with a teacher and coach when she was 14

That made me recall a fat coach at my school who was rumored to prey on some of the girls on his team. He was suddenly gone one day. This was in the 90s.

This coach was chubby as well but he was the cheerleading (!) coach.

^That reminds me.

I grew up in a small town and one of the high school gym teachers/coaches lived in my neighbourhood. He was slightly overweight with a mustache/beard. He seemed like an alright guy, maybe a bit reserved. He was my soccer coach in middle school. There was an accusation made against him by a girl (but I don't know who). He ended up leaving the school and moving. I don't know if there was a conviction. All I recall is that one of the girls I grew up and was friends with was very defensive of him (innocent until proven guilty, etc). I have another girlfriend I keep in touch with. I should ask her if she knows whatever happened to him.

And, then, after I graduated, a high school teacher (I think he was a coach as well, but taught English or History--I never had him as a teacher) was accused of physically assaulting girls, following years of rumours. He was quite tan and handsome. He had white/silver hair, so he probably was in his 50s (perhaps 40s), but in really good shape. He always struck me as having an arrogant look on his face.

And then there were rumours about other teachers (always men). Tangent: the majority of my elementary school teachers were men (highly unusual). But, looking back, I'm confident one was a closet gay, and two of the others had serious anger management issues and tendencies towards violence/aggression. One got so angry at a student one day in class, he kicked a leg completely off of a table (!). I'm pretty sure I didn't bring this up at dinner that night. Another teacher was an alcoholic and he would pin students up against the wall and call them nasty names. These were elementary school teachers! The only one who seemed together was my 5th grade teacher, Mr. Crane. I had a crush on him. Slender, hot tale hippie with sandy blonde sideburns who wore corduroy bellbottoms. He was so cool and groovy.

Anyway, It's strange to look back on one's childhood. We know that sexual abuse happens to a good percentage of kids. I'm not sure about these days. I'd like to think things have improved and kids/parents have grown more aware, social media, etc. But, I grew up in the 1980s. None of my childhood friends has ever admitted to being molested, but looking back on all of my classmates, there must have been so many of those poor souls who were hiding terrible secrets and things that were done to them.

My high school principal had been a coach at the school decades before, and met his wife when she was a student on his team. They married when she graduated from college. And he got promoted instead of tossed out!

[quote] hot tale hippie

It's spelled "tail".

[quote] And he got promoted instead of tossed out!

I'm sure he tossed off more than he was tossed out.

And it was told as a sweet story at school and joked about. I know people think the morality police are overboard now, but I’m really glad those days are done. Hunt for your wife at a bar, not in your study hall.

[quote]When you read hazing stories, the ones where the football team/fraternity members initiate a new member by sticking a broomstick in their butt... do you consider those people pedos?

Those would be homophobic rapists.

I googled one of the first guys I hooked up with in HS. He wasn’t the best looking guy but was built and had a huge cock. Now he’s 348 lbs according to the sex offender registry and is beyond hideous.

I, personally, am not interested in the "To Catch a Predator" shit. Chris Hansen (the host) now has his own legal troubles and missed court earlier this year.

I saw a YouTube video about some weirdo doing vigilante "justice," trying to lure predators. Something's wrong with these vigilantes as well. I think they're getting some kind of "contact high" from this pedo shit.

Oh, I forgot the CLOSEST story to my life (again, a non-conviction, sorry).

My brother's ex! I was living in another state, this was pre-internet, and didn't talk much with him, so everything I know through my parents (and nobody likes to talk about it). Their marriage ended after she lashed out at him violently and he had to call the cops to take her away (in front of their two young children). I don't know why she had attacked him, but it turned out that she was having an affair with the 16-year-old neighbour (at the time, my brother and his wife were in their late 20s). She was never charged with anything (!). I don't quite understand why. The Mary Kay Letourneau scandal had literally broke months before (and my brother lived in Washington State as well, in probably one of the most Christian towns in the state). They got divorced, and then she ended up having two children with the neighbour's son (after he turned 18). I resented my brother for the longest time because he didn't fight for full custody. He insisted the state law made it difficult for a father to do that, he didn't have the money, etc. I just don't understand why he didn't anyway as it was in the best interests of the kids (she was a horrible, toxic bitch on top of it all), and it seemed like he had SO MUCH ammunition to win.

It was some real white-trash stuff. But, I don't know why she wasn't charged with anything. I have questions I want to ask him now, but he's a Trump-voting idiot and he never tells me anything anyway.

Just happened to see this on Reddit. Apparently a Canadian talk show host on a show with little girls.

I didn't know him personally, but a designer at a publishing company I used to work for was busted for exposing himself to kids at a local park. It was all over the local news at the time, and he had to register as a sex offender. He was a classic "closeted but nelly" type—married to a woman and very involved in his church. People at work were grossed out, but I can't say anybody was all that surprised.

R71, it's absolutely not true that you can get married at 11 in most states

Yes, my father, unfortunately.

Oops just saw it says CONVICTED. He was never charged, unfortunately.

My husband's step-brother. Years ago he visited with his new live-in girlfriend and her young daughter (12 maybe?) and we had a pleasant visit. A few years later we find out he was arrested for raping her and sentenced to prison. Creepy. Then years later, he tells us he's gay!

Years ago I worked with a goofy dorky guy had a thing for Asian girls. A few years later he was arrested and convicted of statutory rape, and taking a minor across state lines. It's weird checking his prison pics every few years and seeing him age. What a waste of a life.

R81 I've seen that, too. It was created & only intended for law enforcement, caseworkers, & psychologists, as I understand. That particular guy was sentenced to 45 years in 1994, but as I recall only served a portion of that. I remember looking him up after seeing the documentary. He claimed to have had over 300 victims. But I don't know how much truth there was to that.

We've all heard stories about the devastating impact it has on kids who were abused by trusted figures: priests, boy scout leaders, teachers, etc., but I can't even imagine the level of mind fuck if a *parent* does that to you - not just once, but for years

Unfortunately, a relative was molested by her stepfather when she was 9. He went to prison for maybe 5 years. She ended up having a couple of children by 15 and now works at a fast food restaurant.

He was the type who seemed like a nice guy, so everyone was shocked. All seems to be forgiven though because his wife went back to him, and he was recently invited to a family wedding (but another relative said she wouldn't attend with her children if he came....so he was disinvited).

R5 I find it silly when people call abuse the fling that female high school teachers had with male students and compare women to male abusers. If it was a little boy ok, but a male teenager in high school with a woman? Yeah, he was very unhappy to get laid at that age.

Not yet.

[quote}If it was a little boy ok, but a male teenager in high school with a woman? Yeah, he was very unhappy to get laid at that age.

Yes, that kid is going to be getting high fives from his buddies, but what kind of kid is generally selected by a predator of any sex: weak, vulnerable, little/no family support, looking for someone to love/look up to, etc. So even though the kid might deal with it differently, it's still a sexual relationship that the kid isn't emotionally ready to deal with

I knew a high school boy who had a secret affair with a female guidance counselor in her late 20s. It was the kind of scenario that’s usually discussed here (and elsewhere) as no big deal, he was probably thrilled, etc. He came from a solid family, was not unstable, etc. Even in this “best case scenario” example, it really messed up him for his first relationship to be an older authority figure. Remember too that an older man or woman who’s willing to do this to a high schooler is far from a healthy adult partner mentally—she clung onto him throughout his time in college and it took him years to figure out this was not normal, that he could break up with her, how to relate to girls his age who weren’t messed up, etc.

The little devil in this film didn’t mind.

A teacher at my secondary school (UK term for ages 11-16) was found in possession of 'low grade' images of young girls in underwear/swimsuits several years after I left school. He was a great teacher and I was really shocked. He obviously lost his job, and his wife left him. Although he didn't get a custodial sentence. I don't know what happened to him after.

Come on girls, if you were Cate Blanchet in Notes on a scandal, how many of you would have been principled and resisted the cute little Irish fellow in Notes on a scandal (R117)

A friend's brother in law. He could only find work in a cat litter factory.

High school German teacher. He would take male students on overnights at a cabin he had nearby on a lake. Would use "big time wrestling" holds (he was a part-time camera person for a local tv station that staged wrestling). No one ever came out and said he was a pedo but we all wondered. Years later he was arrested and briefly had a national profile as part of a crackdown on unregulated student exchange programs. One of his exchanges ratted him out. Turned out he had molested a cousin years before and that was why he lived with his mother when I knew him (she was long gone when he was arrested). He seemed like a generally immature, eccentric guy, although he also collected awards as Jaycees man of the year and that sort of thing, probably to obscure his hobby. I'm sure the school administration thought something was up and I'm sure the police knew. The school at least should have curtailed his extracurricular activities.

A childhood friend was convicted when he was in his 40s or 50s. He was a public school teacher. I think he he was married and had a family. I had lost touch and no one else seemed to know much about his current life.

I have had professionals interactions with pedophiles---there seem to be varying scenarios, perpetrators relatively young guys (teens) who also seem to have some neurological deficits; older guys with stable lives where it seems to occur in the context of circumstances that are emasculating (disability, etc.); and then there are guys where it is a primary, long-term attraction that's difficult to change--some, like my high school teacher, are obviously quite odd whereas others have a much better fit into society.

My brother.

A childhood friend, who had significant cognitive defects, went to prison for several years after receiving child abuse materials from a colleague. I was surprised that this particular individual was employed outside of a sheltered, supervised setting. He didn’t go looking for this material on his own, and didn’t understand the legal implications of receiving it from someone he believed trustworthy. He also lacked the capacity to understand whom he should consider trustworthy. It was an unfortunate situation.

Separately, a former high school classmate went to prison for performing a sex act on one of her students. He was above the local age of consent, but those laws didn’t apply to teacher/student relationships. The case got national media attention as the teacher was in her twenties and physically attractive. She claimed that her sexless marriage caused her to project sexual desire onto her students. After her conviction, she “found religion” and divorced the husband, who had supported her through her trial and imprisonment. She became a hardcore Trump supporter and married a younger man (in his early 20s), divorcing soon after.

My impression of this person when she was younger was that she was unusually impulsive (blurting things out that most people would not say out loud). A friend who knew her in adulthood described unusual physical displays of affection toward teenage males, even after her prison sentence. I agree with R116 that only a damaged person acts this way while in a position of authority and trust.

An acquaintance of my ex-husband. He molested young kids when he was younger. About 10 years ago I found out he was arrested for child pornography. He’s still in prison.

R123, the first paragraph seems rather sad. It doesn't sound like the justice system functioned very well.

The teacher, on the other... yeah, she had to project onto students because it's so hard to find a straight guy to fuck a chick.

Never known a convicted pedophile. However I don't know what it is. In one place I worked the purchasing woman would regale me with tales of her sexual conquests. And the shipper was this very hot looking Italian guy who liked to get a rise out of me by showing the most disgusting porn on his work PC. I explained to him to be careful before I put in SquidProxy and DansGuardian and those sites would be blocked forever more.

Few years later I'm working in a state agency and it's decided - we already use SquidProvy and then we implement DansGruardian. In the negotiations and testing a few groups were exempted from the content filtering. I.T. was one, the other was Admin. Another tale of great moral turptitude arises from that place too and regards monitoring the SquidProxy logs and noting some questionable content.

Hubby and I have a 20 something friend that was set up by a police sting operation. The "kid" was supposed to be 17. The friend never actually even met the "kid" and he still got 3 years in the pen.

Kind of extreme

I have a real issue with bait traps for this topic. I have seen one guy - with a history of mild development disability - get trapped TWICE by an online undercover agent. The same undercover agent. And convicted twice. Years apart. Federal prison twice (now with a very lengthy sentence). IMO if there is no real crime and no real victim - i.e., there is no underage person really involved, just a 35 year old FBI agent - then the penalties should be significantly different than a crime with a real victim. Of course, the attempt has been made into a crime even with a non-victim but to me this raises all kinds of issues - baiting someone with a clear compulsion. While I do understand and appreciate the deterrence value - tho with these compulsives I doubt this kind of deterrence really works, this type of offender makes a really easy target. All it does is get THAT person off the streets because you deliberately put that temptation in his face and encouraged him to act on it when he might not have otherwise.

Of course these are not crimes that invite objective analysis or any differentiation by the public and usually not by juries.

I can see both sides but it's problematic IMO.

I knew a defrocked priest. He cooperated with authorities and provided information to convict others in his diocese. In exchange for his substantive cooperation, he got a reduced jail sentence.

I met him at some point after his release. I had no idea of his past, but within just a few minutes, I decided he was to be avoided at all costs.

A few years later, he was caught grooming a young teen boy online and arranging a meeting. The boy's parents found out this was happening and went to the police. There was no entrapment. The guy did it all to himself. After a few months in the county jail and as his legal case approached, he killed himself.

I thought he was a creepy fucked up guy. And he seems to have agreed with me. Too bad for him, but one less predator (in a world full of them.)

Middle school football coach. He was hot. All muscle and fuzzy hair. I loved looking at his hairy body when he was coaching. He had a pornstashe too. He's is in front of us and his packed was very prominent. I sat up front.

Well, he as molesting his son. Opps. he was selling cars down the street from me many years later.

They picked up a hot new teacher at my school one day. Seems his hookup was a14 yo girl. She lied and there were a couple other guys caught. He was locked up forever waiting, but all that counted and he just registered as a SO. His parents are loaded.

he'd sit in front of us...

I know a convicted pedophile, in my family.

He raped all of his daughters, molested several children of his friends, went into relationships with adult women specifically so he could have access to their female children.

He had a lot of child porn on his computer.

He volunteered as a gymnastics coach, had affairs with the mothers, and molested their children.

His wife defended him for many years until she couldn’t turn from the truth anymore.

His (now adult) children went to the police and he was arrested for one of the rapes and he served 11 months. That’s it.

Why did it take so long? He was clever. He was charming. He chose adult women with young female children, and those adult women were highly educated and vain. He remarried immediately after leaving prison and received a full pension from his government job. His new wife didn’t believe his children, but says all he needs is “unconditional love.” Yes, she is a professor at a local university with 2 young daughters. Her ex-husband doesn’t seem concerned for about the situation.

It is frustrating to see people refuse to believe something which has already gone to a conviction. There are many charges outstanding but the police concentrated on the one they thought would get the most success in court this time.

Oh and he has Dr. in front of his name.

A neighbor in my old apartment building. One day six plainclothes police burst into the building (I was laid off at the time), banging on doors. When I opened the door, a cop shoved a photo of the neighbor in my face. I told them that I hadn’t seen him in a couple of weeks. He as a musician and he waited tables. They gave me their cards and said to call them if I saw him. About two weeks later he shows up as I’m coming home from a job interview. The first thing that he said was, “were the police looking for me?”. I said yes. He went into some long story about his girlfriend being sixteen (he was 29) and her folks found out about him and got police involved. He knew that she was too young but insisted that he was in love with her. He said that he relocated to another state for a while until things blew over. He came back to get some clothes and stuff. Never saw him again after that. I got a new job and moved. I called the cop who gave me the card and left him a message. But he never returned the call. I have no idea what ha after that…

Yes, I knew this man.

I watched a video of a guy getting confronted for chatting /setting up a meet with an 8 year old girl he met on Instagram. Further into the video, this creep revealed that he was a RSO who he had been caught abusing his daughter from the ages of 4 until she turned 9 years old. This creature nonchalantly said he went for his daughter because she was "an easy target". Fortunately, the daughter finally told someone the the guy went to jail for 10 years. He also says he still goes to counseling for his pedophilia 8 years post-prison. Then the guy swore that he really WASN'T going to meet up with the 8YO, it was all talk.

The guy was a narcissist - using flattery and manipulation during the confrontation. He used the tactic of being ultra truthful and the "I'm not really a bad guy" ploy, to the extent of throwing in he was bipolar/manic and basically blaming his mental illness was what made him go after children. That's what made me angry - trying to play like he was a slave to his brain malfunction and he wasn't fully "responsible". So, 10 years of prison and 8 years of counseling and this monster is still seeking out children. No cure. That's scary.

FYI: There was no real 8YO - it was a sting team. The cops were called on him for violating his parole and he went back to jail.

I knew him, unfortunately…

You tell us OP.

[R7]: Odd. I knew a man in recovery in a West coast city, who seemed to have done the same thing. Served a jail sentence and was released, but still resentful about it He felt that, because he sexually assaulted a minor girl when he was in a blackout, he somehow shouldn’t have had to take responsibility for it.

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

Sorry, R136. I hope you weren't one of his victims.

R136, I'm from Western Pennsylvania, I remember hearing about that creep (I didn't personally know him though)

I dated him briefly r139, r140. He seemed nice enough…I had no idea what he had done. This was back in 1992

Already did r137. A few times

A high school classmate was in the news for being arrested for underage porn. I didn't really know him, but he was in one of my classes.

When I taught in prison I interacted with one. He was just what you'd expect.

R116 and R123, your comments are appreciated by me. My brother has two friends/classmates who were targeted by a female teacher at our high school. At the time, they thought of the encounters with her as cool and inspiring some weird journey into manhood, but later on they realized how messed up it was, and the trysts ended up causing a lot of problems further into their lives. I don't want to entirely vilify the comment at R113 as I think it is common, but that kind of mindset really downplays the extent to which male students can be damaged by these encounters later when, with an adult mindset, they were actual victims of an adult who was supposed to have their best interests at heart.

My partner was molested as a child by one but he committed suicide and was never convicted.

My 8th grade gym teacher, a woman. She shtuped a bunch Of the boys. They all bragged about it, of course.

One day she was gone with no explanation

She was fun and pretty. Married to a very handsome doctor.

Don’t know what happened to her. When I got older, my friend’s moms told me about it—she was friends with one of the kids she had sex with. He wound up committing suicide and my friend’s mom blamed sex with the gym teacher for it.

I don’t know…the guy was 50 when he killed himself. Would having sex with your hot teacher 40 years before make you kill yourself?

I didn't know them but two male teachers at my old high school were busted around the same time for abusing female students

My ex-boss said he delivered papers as a young teen and a woman on his route called him into her house for sex. He said he regretted it, he was a virgin at the time.

He became a trumpster and a bigot, so I guess it did mess him up.

I was doing a google search on an ex from long ago (a Spanish guy with a huge cock) and I stumbled upon his mugshot. He was a registered sex offender, convicted for "indecent liberties with a minor". When we were still together he once commented that he thought Macaulay Culkin looked really hot in Home Alone. For some reason I just chalked it up to some odd attraction rather than a pedophilic tendency.

Doesn't seem to have hurt him career-wise, he's some bigshot in pharmaceuticals now. I saw his pic on LinkedIn and I have to say he looks better than ever.

OP's Boring freak fantasy Part XXXXVI

My very handsome elementary school principal, father of two very handsome boys, was accused of molesting little boys. We were shocked. He was convicted in the public eye, lost his job, and his family. When I was 18, I was cruising gloryholes, parks and the beaches at night. One night, at the beach, this dark Cadillac pulls up to the curb, and who walks up to me, but this elementary principal. He had turned onto a perfect 'daddy' type. Right up my alley. It was after midnight, and the area was well lit. He smelled of alcohol, and seemed nervous, like maybe I was underage. I don't know why. I was 6' 4", hairy chest, in a wife beater and shorts. I would love to have sucked his dick. But, he got back into his car, and drove off.

Sad part. Thanks to the internet, I looked up his molesting little boys crime. It was based on a lie, and he had been exonerated. But the community never heard about that part. He lost everything.

[quote] Part XXXXVI

Oh, dear!

I used to see the guy at R136 at a bar in Pittsburgh.

Ugh. He was a predator in so many little towns and areas I knew.

I'm going to go barf now.

The now former president of GOAL (Gay Officers Action League, the police organization in NYC). Only met him at gay political functions but always thought he was a hot sexy little guy. Very charismatic. Read in the papers that he was sent up to prison for molesting his underage nephew. Gay, police and child molester. His life must have been miserable in prison.

One more story. After my posts, I'm not sure why this one didn't occur to me first. Poorly functioning brain? Again, not a convict story, but he's a fugitive.

When I was around a tween in the 1980s, my parents had friends who owned a cabin in the mountains near the border. They lived elsewhere and allowed us use of the cabin. There was a Czech community who had holiday homes there, whom we'd spend time with. Most everyone had children, except a paediatrician in his 40s, “Jerry,” who had a cabin just a couple of blocks from us (which he shared with his brother and sister-in-law). He was tall, slender, handsome, tall, and soft-spoken, and effete. I got a vibe that he was "different." There had been innuendo, but some found it homophobic, and nothing was substantiated. Knowing my mother, she was probably impressed that he was a doctor. She got to be friends with him and took me over to his cabin one or two times. I can’t remember the circumstances, but she said there was at least one time where she dropped me off for the day (he, his brother, and SIL were all present). I don’t remember. All I recall is a time where my mother and I were sitting with just him at the dining table, and he invited me to spend the night. My mother, who was way too trusting/oblivious (Adam Walsh was murdered just a few years before) left it up to me to decide (!). The situation felt awkward/confusing. I’m not sure if I finally declined, but it was resolved that I wasn’t going to stay. That was it. I don't recall other times of being in his cabin.

Some time later, I was enjoying the community swimming pool with friends. It was a sunny day. Lots of people laying out. We were playing a game, tossing a tennis ball in the pool. The ball left the pool; I went running after it. I was moving fast and as I approached the ball, I could see a shadow chasing me and/or the ball. It didn't feel like one of my friends, but weird. I scooped up the ball and sprinted around to the other side of the pool, threw the ball, and jumped in, not having looked back at who was chasing me. When I emerged, everyone was laughing and pointing in one direction. I looked over to the deep end and there was Jerry, standing on the edge. Clad in just yellow Speedos, he was sporting a quite obvious erection. He kept shrugging it off, going, "Oh, you kids." They kept laughing and calling him names, whilst he stood there with his erection for what felt like a minute or two. I was too mortified to notice if any of the adults said anything or reacted, and, for some reason, I felt “responsible” for what happened.

I'm not sure who left first. At some point, we hid in the bushes near his cabin, and plotted against him. I was quiet and reserved. After we exhausted ideas on revenge, we went back to my cabin. My friends were still pumped and told my mom what happened. I recall looking at her face for answers. She was as puzzled as I was. Unfortunately, she didn’t key into the fact that I needed reassurance that I didn’t do anything wrong. I don’t think I had any interactions with him after this. We continued making the trips up, but the visits tapered as I got older. At some point, our friends sold their cabin.

Flash-forward two decades later. My mom found out he was wanted by the RCMP since 1999 for sexually assaulting two boys multiple times in the mid-1970s. I'm not sure how many residences he had and when he left Canada. He was probably living in the US by 1999. Sometime in the next few years, he fled to Czech Repub. By October 2004, he had renounced his US citizenship.

I was fortunate to not have been assaulted, but these memories have always haunted me. Because of CR’s extradition laws, he may never be brought to justice. I don’t know if he has more victims. Those poor boys, now men. I can’t imagine what they endured and the impact. Wherever they are, I hope they're okay. I hope they have healed some, if they can’t get the justice they deserve.

TLDR: No, but he should be (& so should my brother’s ex at R102 FFS!)

R156 What a scary story. Obviously the sicko was into you, you were so lucky not to stay alone with him.

r155 If it's this guy, it was not his nephew, but another 12 y.o,, and it had gone on for years.

A couple of years ago we had a thread about Jonny Cronin, a douchebag special ed teacher/wrestling coach in Las Vegas who got in trouble for being inappropriate with both male and female students. He avoided prison but had to register as a sex offender. According to his LinkedIn profile, he became a waiter.

Further Googling revealed a detail not discussed in the old thread: He was once a child actor who starred in four Disney movies.