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CNN's Sanjay Gupta admits to Rogan the network miacharacterized the "horse dewormer" story

CNN’s chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta acknowledged that the network shouldn’t have called a controversial drug being used as a COVID-19 treatment a “horse dewormer” — as he was grilled by podcast host Joe Rogan about why the media was “lying” about the medication.

Gupta was confronted by Rogan about how the network has handled its coverage of ivermectin, a drug also used to treat or prevent parasites in animals such as horses, on the Wednesday episode of “The Joe Rogan Experience.”

“They shouldn’t have said that,” Gupta said of the network referring to the medication as a “horse dewormer.”

The heated exchange over ivermectin began when the pair was discussing Rogan’s bout with the virus earlier this year.

Rogan, who is not vaccinated, said he took the drug in addition to receiving monoclonal antibodies.

“By the way, I’m glad you’re better,” Gupta told the podcast host.

“Thank you. You’re probably the only one at CNN who’s glad … The rest of them are all lying about me taking horse medication,” Rogan replied.

“That bothered you,” Gupta said.

“It should bother you too,” Rogan replied. “They’re lying at your network about people taking human drugs versus drugs for veterinary.”

“It can be used for humans! I get it,” Gupta said.

“Not just could be used for humans, is often used for humans along with all the other drugs that I took. All human drugs,” the podcast host said. “They know it’s a human drug and they lied. It’s defamatory.”

“𝒀𝒆𝒂𝒉, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅𝒏’𝒕 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒅𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕,” Gupta replied.

“I walked into the lion’s den and spoke with @joerogan on his podcast for more than 3 hours — vaccines, ivermectin, and much more. Friends tried to get me to turn down his invite, but ultimately I’m glad I did it,” he wrote on Twitter.

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And then he goes on Don Lemon's show and take it all back

by Anonymousreply 50October 17, 2021 5:05 PM

Quit trying to make Joe Rogan happen here.

by Anonymousreply 3October 15, 2021 7:50 PM

R3 Tale your fingers out of your ears.

by Anonymousreply 4October 15, 2021 8:06 PM

*Take.

by Anonymousreply 5October 15, 2021 8:07 PM

GUPTA has as much GRAVITAS as our dl pet albino Anderson Cooper.

by Anonymousreply 6October 15, 2021 8:16 PM

Quit trying to make ̶J̶o̶e̶ ̶R̶o̶g̶a̶n̶ ℎ𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 happen here.

by Anonymousreply 7October 15, 2021 8:44 PM

You can rail on Rogan but you must admit CNN is just as ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 8October 15, 2021 9:01 PM

This is all beside the point: we have a safe and effective vaccine that will end the pandemic if enough people get it!

by Anonymousreply 9October 15, 2021 9:13 PM

Wonder who's pushing this thread? Check out this post from OP:

[quote][bold]WHERE'S CHUCK SCHUMER???[/bold]

[quote]Doing meth with Hunter?

by Anonymousreply 10October 15, 2021 9:34 PM

But the bottom line is that Ivermectin is a horse dewormer. Human use was authorized by the FDA to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. It is a parasite medicine, and has no impact on viral infections.

That said, if the MAGAts are so easily influenced to use compounds for unwarranted purposes, perhaps we should convince them to use Gorilla glue for lube. Hilarity would ensue.

by Anonymousreply 11October 15, 2021 9:38 PM

Nobody with any common sense should be taking a dewormer, regardless of dosage, for COVID. There is no scientific evidence that dewormer has any positive effect against a virus. It's design is to counteract against worms and other invertebrate phyla and parasitical insects. Joe Rogan is propagating the propaganda that dewormer is an viable alternative to getting a vaccine. So fuck you Joe Rogan. How many of his devoted listeners have died from listening to his bullshit?

by Anonymousreply 12October 15, 2021 10:15 PM

[quote] But the bottom line is that Ivermectin is a horse dewormer.

No, you really haven't been paying attention. That is not the bottom line. That is the propaganda from one side of the story.

Ivermectin has been used for humans for decades as safe and effective both as a preventative against parasitic infections and disease as well as treatment.

In more recent times they have discovered it also has a number of anti-viral properties that can prevent and target viral effects which are also found to be caused by the corona virus. They have been actually using ivermectin in some countries in hospitals to treat Covid symptoms early on.

It is utterly stupid to have been dishonest or coy about Ivermectin and to have demonized it. People would have paid more attention to warnings against its misuse if authorities here had been more honest about it generally.

When you lie about one thing people will not believe you about other things.

by Anonymousreply 13October 15, 2021 11:26 PM

R10 I blocked this OP a long time ago for that specific reason, and I really don't block many posters - just the extreme lunatics.

by Anonymousreply 14October 15, 2021 11:27 PM

R13 "In more recent times they have discovered..."

Who's "they?"

by Anonymousreply 15October 15, 2021 11:30 PM

Lmao in what world is joe tard rogan an "honest reporter" lmao. Give yourself away dumbasses, Dl hates bald bloted guns rogan. 🔫

by Anonymousreply 16October 15, 2021 11:33 PM

[quote]But the bottom line is that Ivermectin is a horse dewormer.

[quote]No, you really haven't been paying attention.That is the propaganda from one side of the story.

People were going to feed stores and buying ivermectin horse de-wormer off the shelves to use as a prophylactic.

by Anonymousreply 17October 15, 2021 11:34 PM

[quote]They have been actually using ivermectin in some countries in hospitals to treat Covid symptoms early on.

You mean like in Brazil, which has horrendous death rates?

by Anonymousreply 18October 15, 2021 11:35 PM

Like I said elsewhere, the only dosages for Ivermectin that have shown to have any effect on virus "docking" have been dosages which are 100 times greater than the normal human dosage, i.e. you have to take dosages meant for HORSES for it to MAYBE work.

Plus the Stromectol pills with human dosages of Ivermectin were impossible to find at the time.

CNN didn't do anything wrong. It was a logical to believe he took horse paste, based on all the evidence we had at the time.

by Anonymousreply 19October 15, 2021 11:37 PM

Imagine what a stupid cunt you must be to fall for anything Joe Rogan says?

by Anonymousreply 20October 15, 2021 11:38 PM

You are lying, R11. Ivermectin is a medicine created to treat parasitic infestations and, like many medications, there are varieties used for animals and SEPARATE varieties used for human beings. It's not a horse de-wormer.

Also, most Latin American and Caribbean countries, as well as India, have used Ivermectin with relative success, as the data reflects that it lowers the rates of hospitalization and the risk of mortality. The problem with Ivermectin is that it is a generic medication and pharmaceutical companies cannot make profits from it anymore. That is why the backlash against it has been so fierce.

Curiously enough, the pharmaceutical company Merck, which used to produce Ivermectin before the patent became obsolete, is trying to commercialize Molnupiravir to treat COVID, which has been developed from the avermectin family of medications to treat the flu (so much for your argument about avermecting not being usable for viral infections). And let's not even begin to talk about Pfizer wanting everyone to be vaccinated every year and take their own COVID-19 drugs...

This is part of an economic war for higher profits, not just a matter of stupid "deplorables" refusing to get vaccinated - in fact, most of the people who refuse to get vaccinated are NON white, urban dwellers and they are polarized bewteen the least and most highly educated in society, with most PhDs REFUSING vaccination.

What was done to Rogan was nothing short of slander taken from half-truths and MANY malicious lies, the purpose of which was to finally be able to take down someone who is overshadowing the MSM and whose non-dictated opinions and view on many subjects, constitute a threat for the establishment (albeit very minimal). Also, not even the despicable corporate shill Fauci knows what he is saying, since he has given conflicting statements since the beginning of the pandemic - just as he did with AIDS.

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by Anonymousreply 21October 15, 2021 11:42 PM

That is impossible, R17, since Ivermectin requires a prescription. Moreover, if people had taken Ivermectin meant for horses, they would have DIED. We all know that the story about a hospital not being able to treat people in ER because of Ivermecting overdoses, was ENTIRELY false.

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by Anonymousreply 22October 15, 2021 11:46 PM

Just shows that CNN not only lies but does so creatively. Does Ivermectin work? Who the fuck knows. I certainly don't trust CNN to give me the real answer. I find it odd that we haven't tackled obesity despite the fact that being a significant risk factor while we try to get children as young as 5 vaccinated. I also find it odd that whenever the topic of Ivermectin or any other therapeutic treatment is brought up, it's actively scrubbed or the researcher/physician threatened. And no, Rogan wasn't saying that Ivermectin is a replacement for the vaccine, he said that natural immunity (of which he has since he contracted Covid) is stronger. Gupta didn't dismiss that. Why? Wouldn't that have huge implications if most of those who haven't taken the vaccine already recovered from Covid?

by Anonymousreply 23October 15, 2021 11:55 PM

[quote]That is impossible, [R17], since Ivermectin requires a prescription.

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by Anonymousreply 24October 15, 2021 11:59 PM

[quote] When you lie about one thing people will not believe you about other things.

It's almost comical that a news network that lies constantly spends countless hours a day complaining about misinformation. Perhaps they should look in the mirror.

by Anonymousreply 25October 16, 2021 12:01 AM

R24 Yes, thank goodness people can't ever get around prescription requirements!

by Anonymousreply 26October 16, 2021 12:13 AM

Is the Joe Rogan ass kisser troll also the Libertarian troll? They're equally strident and irascible and the talking points sourced from conservative dunce sites like Epoch Times feels familiar.

by Anonymousreply 27October 16, 2021 12:27 AM

"going into the lion's den"? What a pathetic, loser. He got his headline, and week of relevancy, so he can go now.

by Anonymousreply 28October 16, 2021 12:34 AM

Hahaha! It's hilarious how the Rogan-ites have proudly spazzed out over this INCONSEQUENTIAL situation and flooded the internet with the "gotcha!!" as if it's some Earth shaking issue.

Should CNN have called what Rogan took "horse dewormer?" No, because what he took was the dose for humans which is... human dewormer... for Covid, a virus - which is still silly but, of course, not as silly as the dose that's a horse dewormer.

The difference between the doses is noteworthy but, in the big picture, irrelevant. All CNN did was cause anti-vaxers to be able to change the subject from Ivermectin being totally not-useful for treating Covid to "cNN is FAke nEWs!! It's all silly and a nonissue.

by Anonymousreply 29October 16, 2021 12:55 AM

R23 Also interesting that Gupta would do an in person interview with Rogan, who is unvaccinated, despite reports that vaccinated people could still spread the virus. I'm pretty sure the Biden administration has diplomatic meetings with countries that don't have restrictions on those who recovered.

by Anonymousreply 30October 16, 2021 2:57 AM

The headlines on this story irritate me, as if Gupta "admitted" something scandalous (and Rogan achieved something by digging it out of him). I hate clickbait.

by Anonymousreply 31October 16, 2021 3:43 AM

No, R21, it's a horse dewormer. That's quite a conspiracy you've spun, but I'm going with facts (like the one showing, as of today, urban areas have the lowest infection rates, and while there does seem to be some correlation with educational level and vaccine hesitancy, you [italic]omitted[/italic] the most significant correlation with vaccine hesitancy: Trump support).

by Anonymousreply 32October 16, 2021 4:37 AM

Back on topic; Rogan clearly states his prescription was doctor prescribed and the Ivermectin was for human consumption. CNN and MSNBC outright LIED and DL bought all the BS.

When the MSM feed us a lie, do we just accept it? No ramifications? No outrage r32?

by Anonymousreply 33October 16, 2021 5:21 AM

Thank you R33. Spot on. The Branch Covidians are all over this thread.

by Anonymousreply 34October 16, 2021 5:24 AM

Thanks r34, I guess logic always closes a thread on DL :)

by Anonymousreply 35October 16, 2021 5:41 AM

Here's one about the anti-viral properties found in vitro. This is from Australia. June 2020.

With obvious references to other studies including one from 2012, "Ivermectin is a specific inhibitor of importin alpha/beta-mediated nuclear import able to inhibit replication of HIV-1 and dengue virus".

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by Anonymousreply 36October 16, 2021 5:43 AM

[quote]Rogan clearly states his prescription was doctor prescribed and the Ivermectin was for human consumption. CNN and MSNBC outright LIED and DL bought all the BS.

Then he got a small human dosage of it which hasn't been shown, even in vitro, to do any good, meaning he outright lied when he said it helped cure him and YOU bought all his BS.

by Anonymousreply 37October 16, 2021 8:06 AM
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by Anonymousreply 38October 16, 2021 4:41 PM

R38, that was just one study that hadn't been finalized AND was removed before its author was given a chance to defend it.

by Anonymousreply 39October 16, 2021 5:52 PM

Rogan is not saying that Ivermectin is a miracle cure. He says he got it in addition to other medications and treatments while also promoting a healthy lifestyle. Why is there such a concerted effort to suppress any type of research about treating Covid or ignoring well-known risk factors? It's insane.

by Anonymousreply 40October 16, 2021 6:14 PM

[quote]Why is there such a concerted effort to suppress any type of research about treating Covid

Because, R40, they're promoting these complicated, multi tiered, expensive, hit-or-miss TREATMENTS as a valid alternative to JUST GETTING VAXXED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Most people, if they get Covid, don't have Rogan's money, connections, or flexible schedule to get these complicated, multi tiered expensive, hit-or-miss treatments.

A simple vaccination would be far more effective and easy for the average person.

Talking about all the other possible "treatment" mumbo jumbo is a distraction and an effort to mire up the concept of just getting vaxxed.

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by Anonymousreply 41October 16, 2021 7:45 PM

[quote] Because, [R40], they're promoting these complicated, multi tiered, expensive, hit-or-miss TREATMENTS as a valid alternative to JUST GETTING VAXXED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

These hit-or-miss treatments will be a better defense against Covid than getting the vaccine. I agree that the vaccine is effective but if we're already discussing booster shots less than a year later, then perhaps this strategy of vaccinating the entire population (which would never have happened by the way) in order to attain herd immunity was nothing but a fantasy. However, these studies are not being done because the vaccine is being promoted as a quick fix and those who even bring them up are threatened or censured. Covid is a complicated issue that requires additional long lasting studies regarding treatments. We also need a more honest approach regarding the effects of comorbidities. It doesn't make sense that we're vaccinating kids who have an almost 0% chance of dying from the virus, yet not informing the public about their health and lifestyle choices which would have a much greater impact. Not everyone who is looking in to this matter is an anti vaxxer. They simply understand that the issue is more complicated.

R42 Yes, people like Joy Behar were laughing at Trump for announcing a viable vaccine while saying that it would take years or decades. The vaccine is a good option for most people but as a matter of public health and public policy, we have to consider those who have natural immunity and those who are medically exempt. It doesn't help that those who are making these recommendations are not following their own rules. Gupta and Rogan having a non socially distanced conversation is just one of a gazillion examples.

by Anonymousreply 43October 16, 2021 11:31 PM

[quote]However, these studies are not being done because the vaccine is being promoted as a quick fix and those who even bring them up are threatened or censured.

There are thousands of studies involving covid and alternative treatments in progress around the world.

[quote]Gupta and Rogan having a non socially distanced conversation is just one of a gazillion examples.

Gupta is likely triple vaxxed, Rogan just had covid, and both were tested before coming into contact.

by Anonymousreply 44October 16, 2021 11:47 PM

However, these studies are not being done

Bullshit, R43. Studies certainly ARE BEING DONE.

But unlike the vaccine, which for the most part was already developed and only needed the particular Covid-19 "recipe" merged into it -- Studying treatments takes actually infected people and time to study doses, various parameters, and results.

Don't go around saying nobody's studying treatments just because you don't personally know of them.

by Anonymousreply 45October 16, 2021 11:47 PM

Just go here and type in Ivermectin in the search box. There are dozens of studies ongoing and completed.

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by Anonymousreply 46October 16, 2021 11:51 PM

Ok, this is getting beyond hysterical 🤣so Rogan calls out CNN's resident medical shill, Gupta to his face about his network lying about Ivermectin, a drug approved for humans (2015 Nobel Prize) because it's a threat to their zombie, lab rat, Pharma narrative that these experimental mNRA lipid nanoparticle spike protein jabs (with potential severe/lethal side effects) for a "virus" (still yet to be identified, isolated, purified, reproduced... Koch's Postulate... and confirmed by an independent, non Pharma/non-govt peer review) with a 99% survival rate. Gotcha.

Rogan obviously knows a lot more than he can publicly state. He's much smarter than the many sheep/lab rats populating this thread who are terrified that their (totally safe LOL) mNRA eucharist isn't the only "option".

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by Anonymousreply 47October 17, 2021 5:38 AM

[quote] Does Ivermectin work? Who the fuck knows.

I can say for a FACT it works like a charm!!

Er, for its original intended purpose, that is.

by Anonymousreply 48October 17, 2021 5:45 AM

[quote]nope, not a MAGAt - R47

If it walks like a duck, and links like a duck...

by Anonymousreply 49October 17, 2021 10:34 AM

[quote]These hit-or-miss treatments will be a better defense against Covid than getting the vaccine.

Nope, it's still horse dewormer.

Wait a second, it just occurred to me that the goal here isn't preventing Covid, or curing Covid, it's killing the patient. I was wrong. Ivermectin is a cure-all for MAGAts.

Please proceed, Dr. Rogan.

by Anonymousreply 50October 17, 2021 5:05 PM
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