Leonardo DiCaprio was likely a victim of abuse

Leo photographed by Bob Villard

I didn't know that about the EP of Growing Pains, but I wonder if that might explain Kirk Cameron's actions since then.

I think this may explain why Leo can’t settle down with a woman his own age.

Because he's bi r3.

R4 Lukas Haas is his real love?

R3 I think it would also explain why he let himself go physically.

I swear when I first saw this I thought it said Leonardo Da Vinci and I thought, how do they know?

R3, wow. That's actually a great point. How interesting. An acquaintance of mine is a Las Vegas bottle girl and has a story about how Leo's "people" told her to meet him in his room if she was interested. Apparently he wore Beats by Dre listening to music with his eyes shut while she rode his dick. She said he didn't say anything the whole time. I have another friend who flies private planes for VIP clients and who flew Leo once. He said that he came on the plane with his hoodie on and the drawstring drawn completely over his face like a cocoon. He stayed that way the whole flight, I guess. Bizarre. I feel bad for him. I watched Titanic for the first time the other week and was astounded at how he has no chemistry with any female costar that I've seen. Maybe Margot Robbie, but only because she was doing all of the hard work. At least he doesn't have veneers and shit.

Watch his love scene in the departed with Vera Farmiga. Painful. He looks as if he is about to vomit in his mouth. Overrated in looks and acting talent.

[quote] Watch his love scene in the departed with Vera Farmiga.

Rolls eyes.

I rolled my eyes during their love scene. Wooden. Dry humping. Sexless. Vera was doing all the acting and outclassed Dicaprio and Nicholson in that film.

R9 Couldn’t disagree more. I think The Departed is one of DiCaprio’s best performances and the best he ever looked.

R8 He had nice chemistry with Amy Adams in Catch Me If You Can.

How could anyone ride his dick for more than a minute or two if he refused to even look at the person sitting on him? How could one continue?

I’d have said, “well, okay, clearly you’re not into this and you’re listening to whatever’s playing in your headphones, so… later.”

Here he is with Brian Peck.

Brian Peck I know him. He’s a freak.

[quote]An acquaintance of mine is a Las Vegas bottle girl and has a story about how Leo's "people" told her to meet him in his room if she was interested. Apparently he wore Beats by Dre listening to music with his eyes shut while she rode his dick.

Your acquaintance read this piece from Star Magazine, reposted by Celebitchy and other sites.

R14, they're Vegas bottle girls, darling. She probably got a Nice tip. Agreed, though, of course.

Vegas bottle girl = WHORE

What was I, chopped liver?

He might well have been abused, but I think the letting himself go physically and always hiding under hoodies has more to do with the insane media frenzy after Titanic. He was older (and probably more intelligent) than Britney when he went through this phase of getting hounded by paparazzi and fans, so instead of going off the rails, he coped by shutting down emotionally (at least in public), and making himself unattractive. His whole demeanor and body language changed drastically after Titanic came out.

R17, I've never seen that! Wow, I guess she's a lying cunt after all.

Does anyone remember seeing this photo back in the day (apparently it's from August '98) ?

Why do some people do desperately need for every child star to have been molested. It’s really disturbing.

[quote] An acquaintance of mine is a Las Vegas bottle girl and has a story about how Leo's "people" told her to meet him in his room if she was interested. Apparently he wore Beats by Dre listening to music with his eyes shut while she rode his dick.

IIRC, Shallon Lester (YouTube gossip columnist) tells a similar story involving a vape or MJ pipe, main point being that DiCaprio is not really "present" while having sex.

I thought he did have chemistry with Vera Farmiga in The Departed.'

Sad if he was treated like a piece of underage meat.

There might be more than one women who got the 'headphones and vaping' treatment during sex (if you can even call it that)

That's what I was thinking, R26. Would be OK if you were getting paid well, but disappointing if not paid.

He seems at ease with Peck.

R24, it doesn't seem too far-fetched in Leo's case, but I get what you mean. Like getting 'diddled' is the only thing that can fuck someone up.

R15, uh...you posted the exact same video the OP did. Clueless much?

SHOCKING, really? I remember seeing that video on youtube years ago, before I'd heard of Brian Peck's background. Knowing who the guy is, it feels a bit weird and uncomfortable watching it again; you automatically perceive him as slimy and can't help wondering what went on behind the scenes. However, back then I didn't see anything unusual/inappropriate about their interaction tbh, just playful banter.

I wonder if Leo was brought in to replace Kirk in more ways than one.

There probably were some attempts at grooming ... but Leo's parents seemed very protective, despite being hippies (especially his mother). And I never noticed anything 'off' about him before Titanic.

R8 I find it shocking that a man of such wealth and privilege would use such pedestrian headphones.

He just may have found love...

And then we come to the twist in the story...

Leo was brought into Growing Pains because Jeremy Miller turned into a disgusting-looking troll and Kirk Cameron was aging out of being a teen idol. They needed a cute boy so the teenage girls (and gaylings) would continue watching.

So you're saying a child molestor will moslest every child they see? That's like saying gays have to have sex with every gay they see.

I'm on the fence about this ...could be, could be not; we'll probably never know. It would fall under the statute of limitations, and he'd NEVER talk about it. There'll never be an open letter on instagram or a tearful sit-down with Oprah.

In any case I'm certain that Leo is a thoroughly fucked-up human being who has been deeply and irretrievably corrupted by money, fame and power.

I obviously have no idea whether or not Leo DiCaprio was molested but that body language in OPs vid at 00:34-00:38 reads too affectionate - almost boyfriend/girlfriend - to me.

00:34 - 00:48 I mean...

What kind of a man has mechanical lifeless sex with women but passionate sex with other men?

A gay man.

I'm surprised he wasn't wearing a VR headset.

It's bleedingly obvious in the video that 'class clown' DiCaprio was in full command even then, and wouldn't have let anyone lay a hand on him except on his terms. The Pedo Troll needs to get some fresh air.

R43 Exactly. That's Leo!

Just call the police, OP, if this is a matter of concern to you. It's pointless to just kvetch about it on DL.

Where was Michael Jackson when all this alleged abuse was happening?

Did he get to sample Alan's Thicke sausage?

He was abused. There's no question about it. The poor sod.

R49 I would sample Jason Seaver's sausage and then make a meal out of it.

Leo is 1/3 the actor he’s trying to emulate now. Jack n.

Is this thread from that crazy Poo Shoes woman?

He seemed very effeminate in OPs video. It also appeared the cast was just tolerating him for the ET cameras.

[quote] He seemed very effeminate in OPs video.

I don't know, he reminded me of a kid in a 1940's movie, grimacing and aw shucks'ing around. Put a cap on him, and a sack of newspapers, stick him out on the corner. Hey Mister...

OP is QAnon Trump supporting scum.

OP, the world would be better off without you in it. You are scum.

You know what to do.

R15 Wow, the body language in that clip. Leaves little room for doubt.

Inconclusive. Only Leo knows for certain, and he ain't spilling the tea. Some people know how to move on. I did...

I don't doubt many pervy Hollywood types *tried*, but Leo seems pretty mercenary; he'd probably fuck someone - anyone - if he thought it would get him somewhere. During those press interviews for Once Upon a Time..., I was really struck by how charmless & sour he was, particularly next to Brad & Margot

I wasn’t familiar with Brian Peck or his history, yet watching that video was a bit uncomfortable. Body language was very hands on and then Peck gesturing to Leo’s body basically saying how how he was. Really inappropriate. Leo seemed sweet but exhausting.

I always assume that any child star who really got somewhere in Hollywood - ever - was sexually abused, unless their parent/s were regularly vilified in the press by Hollywood bosses ("the kid is great but the mother is a controlling bitch" kind of thing). In those cases I assume the parent/s prevented abuse.

I hope there were a few exceptions.

I do agree that the success of Titanic, which was of a type Leo said he never wanted and has never tried to replicate, was a definite factor in pushing his life off course, though. But you see, Winslet was able to go on with her life and career almost as if it hadn't happened. He didn't have that in him, so arguably something was already not quite right.

Current Leo seems completely asexual to me, but I can definitely see him being bi in the past. Around his peak "hotness" upon the release of Titanic and Romeo & Juliet, that kid could have had whatever cock or vagine he wanted presented to him on a silver platter. And this coming from someone who has never found him handsome. He has a face like a dinner plate.

I don't think he was abused. He comes across as too street smart to have fallen prey to that. I actually respect that he's quite a private celebrity. Whether he's bearding or not, don't know and don't care. I suspect he's simply just an incredibly selfish and lazy lover and the young women are eager to please and easy to control.

R59 I am of the mind he has a lot of dirt on everyone in Hollywood and vice versa so he continues to reign. His acting is one-note and his sourness permeates from the screen. He was the weak link in OUATIH.

R24 Yeah, I agree. While it's certainly possible that he and other child stars were abused I am annoyed by the tendency to fixate and obsess over sex abuse as the cause of every single actor or actresses problems. It's monomaniacal and dismisses all the other complicated factors that might lead to troubled former child stars. Many come from broken homes and low income backgrounds and having an intense and critical spotlight on you from an early age can be damaging in and of itself. Constant critique of your looks and mannerisms by complete strangers can be a real mind fuck. Along with the threat of being replaced or discarded the minute someone brighter and newer comes along. I'm not denying Hollywood has creeps who prey on kids but I'm not convinced that the prevalence is higher than it is in middle American suburbia.

This blind item re Leonardo

Kate Winslet And Four Actors

Being a child star seems psychologically damaging even if you aren’t abused. Especially grappling with an older face and body. He does seem very close to his mom but I don’t think his parents (or any parents) should put a kid in the position of being the family moneymaker, especially if it involves their looks.

[quote]I didn't know that about the EP of Growing Pains, but I wonder if that might explain Kirk Cameron's actions since then.

I'm glad this was one of the first comments because it was the first thing I thought of when I read the words Growing Pains, abuse and pedophile.

I don't know if Leo was one of the victims of Brian Peck. But at that young age, Leo must have been a big temptation to a pedophile like that pig. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried. I remember seeing a video in which Leo was in Paris, at the foot of the Eiffel Tower. I was very surprised to see him so happy, so natural, so free. This was before Romeo + Juliet and before Titanic, in the 90s. There was no more video showing him as happy as at that time.

The photo on R65's BI is Jensen Ackles. He's famous for the "single manly tear" portrayed in the picture.

Oh it's this video

R70 uh no i'd say he's famous for having batshit stans who think he's gay.

That too.

Just hanging out with the boys in Vegas waiting for the pussy to arrive.

Even Rachel Wood flat out said if you were a child in Hollywood you were sexually abused. There is no way he got out unscathed, especially in that era.

R59 There was a time when Leo wasn’t always so serious. I was watching some interviews he did in 2006 and he seemed pretty charming back then. Something changed.

R59 See also this interview with Matt Damon.

I recently watched "What's Eating Gilbert Grape" and having never really seen his appeal thought "Now I get why Leo was identified as talented at such a young age - that was a tough role and he was charming!" The real star of Titanic (a movie I found tremendously overblown) was Kate Winslet - not "Kate and Leo." I never watched Growing Pains. This all makes sense and is very sad.

When you start thinking about it, it’s pretty fucked up that the exceptions to child labor laws are industries that produce general entertainment for adults—the arts and sports. Like we’re ok with kids being used as labor as long as it feeds the world’s need for diversion.

R77 In this interview Matt suggests that “we can talk about our experiences in the gay clubs” and later jokes that Leo was rougher in bed. Leo just laughs it off.

Watch the video at R15. They touch like two men who are comfortable ... touching

R81 Exactly. It is pretty obvious.

Vegas Bottle girls are expecting to be wined and dined by an A+ list celebrity? COME ON. DiCaprio does it because he can. Bitches can complain all they want, but will still ride his dick regardless.

That video was very creepy.

DiCaprio seemed charming but the adult glomming onto him was up to no good.

[quote]Watch the video at [R15].

The video at R15 is the same as the OP's.

He was supposed to be in the movie version of Dennis Cooper's Frisk back in the 90s but pulled out because his agents didn't want anyone speculating about his sexuality.

This was for a very specific reason beyond optics.

Look at who he dates. The consistency of types and the way they seem to expire. Extrapolate from there.

Really, I'm fucking shocked anyone thinks this guy is straight.

BTW - that vape and beats story is total bullshit. It never happened.

[quote]I do agree that the success of Titanic, which was of a type Leo said he never wanted and has never tried to replicate, was a definite factor in pushing his life off course, though. But you see, Winslet was able to go on with her life and career almost as if it hadn't happened. He didn't have that in him, so arguably something was already not quite right.

The focus was all on Leo, Winslet didn't get the same amount of attention and hysteria that he got.

R62 makes good points although I really don't know what "face like a dinner plate" means. Round?

He's said to be wonderful in Don't Look Up and could get another Oscar nomination. He's due for another win. It's a crime that he and untalented Brad Pitt have the same amount of Oscars.

R89 I really wish he had won for The Wolf of Wall Street.

I've never liked Leo playing an adult until Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

Until then, he always seemed like an alcoholic kid playing an adult.

[quote]I really wish he had won for The Wolf of Wall Street.

I wish he would have died sooner in Titanic.

DiCaprio has cited James Dean as one of his favorite and most influential actors. He was supposed to play Dean in a movie directed by Michael Mann at some point but it never ended up happening. I would have liked to seen it.

If you look at the hands only (OP's video), the hands linger too long (both the adult's and Leo's) on the other's bodies. Also, hands are more the way you'd touch a lover than a "pat on the back" type of thing. The whole vibe was too "playful." Those are my observations.

[quote]An acquaintance of mine is a Las Vegas bottle girl and has a story about how Leo's "people" told her to meet him in his room if she was interested. Apparently he wore Beats by Dre listening to music with his eyes shut while she rode his dick. She said he didn't say anything the whole time

I don't really get what this has to do with possible sexual abuse as a child. Sex with a stranger who's just there to hook up for sex - what do you want, wine and roses?

R94 is right on the money! Watch the hands in the video.

I don't know what to make of all this. I just know Leonardo's "Luke" character on Growing Pains had one of the memorable gags. He would makes veiled reference to his lurid, hardscrabble past as a homeless kid. He'd say things like, "yeah, that's the time I lived behind a bakery. And when you sleep around a bunch of hungry bakers you really learn to watch your buns." Or, " that was around the time I stowed away with some merchant marines. And when you live among lonely sailors you really gotta watch your seabiscuits. "

My partner and I have been riffing off of this bit for decades!

Another photo of young Leo taken by convicted pedo Bob Villard.

Another sign: Brian and Leo take turns wearing the same hat in the video.

He was a very cute kid like Corey Haim. I would be shocked if he escaped the predators that seem still to be rife in Hollywood.

R12 Mmm

I predict he probably got it pretty bad, but like Macauly, he will never spill.

[quote] Leo is 1/3 the actor he’s trying to emulate now. Jack n.

Why is everyone looking at me?

He looked very comfortable and natural snogging David Thewlis. Like he has some animating spark we don’t usually see.

R4 He can't settle with a woman his age because hey bi? This makes absolutely zero sense. So bi men are only attracted to women half their age? I didn't know that fact.

Arent they all? It will be more surprising if he wasnt. The kids who came before him (the Coreys, Macaulay Culkin and River Phoenix) and after him (Brad Renfro, Edward Furlong, Nick Stahl) and way after him (Aaron Carter, Justin Bieber) are messed up.

[quote]He can't settle with a woman his age because hey bi? This makes absolutely zero sense. So bi men are only attracted to women half their age? I didn't know that fact.

R105 It's one of those Datalounge "facts."

He won't settle with a woman because he fucks women but he fucks men and has emotional attachments to them. He an Lukas Haas have been in an open marriage for 25 years.

That video is incredibly creepy

He’s gay.

R104 Straight or gay, anyone who could kiss David Thewlis deserves an academy award.

Dear idiot at R24 Many of them were, it is not that we need it, only that we acknowledge it.

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Straight or not, does anyone really believe he's been in a relationship with Lukas Haas for 25 years? In other words, since they were both about 20? Two gay/bi guys in Hollywood, one of them THE biggest movie star in the world? Come on. Even if they're both allowed to fuck others, I'm not buying it.

R114 I used to think it was silly, but you’d think either one of them would’ve settled down by now. The fact Lukas always accompanies Leo and his girlfriends wherever they go is also telling.

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Jimmy Stewart didn't get married until he was 41. He went out with a lot of women before that, a lot of famous actresses, etc. Never heard he was molested or a homo. Maybe Leo will never get married but there could be many reasons for that. Obviously if he was worried about what people thought, he'd get married even it was just to quell rumors. He obviously doesn't even need to do that.

R115, that link looks a bit suspicious. I'm not downloading that file, sorry. What is it? A photo of Leo and Lukas?

Sorry, I meant R116

Being that famous would make anyone crazy. Imagine a world where you're mobbed by weirdos whenever you're in public.

R118 It’s a Daily Mail photo. I don’t know why you have to download it to view it.

R23, I don’t think Leo is aware of the “ hi faggot” graffiti on car . Damm

R114 No one is buying it. Except for a couple of delusional DLers.

It's interesting that DiCaprio's house in the Bird Streets is right next door to Keanu Reeve's house. What are the odds that Hollywood's two biggest closet cases live next door to each other? And Calvin Klein's house is across the street from Keanu.

I imagine that Calvin invites Leo and Keanu over to his house, along with a few hot guys, for a mini-orgy a few times a year.

I'd rather deal with sexual abuse than Kirk Cameron telling me about how Christ is his personal savior.

Matthew McConaughey was one of the finalists for the Jack role in Titanic. He had such a great audition that he thought he had it--but then Leo got it.

If MM had been cast, he'd have broken out earlier and Leo would have done Boogie Nights and remained the indie darling he claimed he wanted to be. We'd have been spared the stardom of Marky Mark.

McConaughey would have been a better Jack on paper--the role was supposed to be an adventurous young man who'd been bumming around Europe for several years. Leo looked like a high school kid who got separated from his tour group.

I don't think all the teen and pre-teen girls would have crushed that hard on McConaughey though and gone to see the film half a dozen times. Casting a baby-faced, sexually non-threatening Leo right off the massive success of Romeo + Juliet was a a brilliant move.

Even if Rose ended up looking like his mother instead of his lover.

McConaughey was too old to play Jack, he was pushing 30 at the time.

Did Jack have to be 20 years old? His backstory would have been believable if he'd been anywhere up to 30.

I guess that would make the Rose/Jack thing creepier, but Kate Winslet in no way looked 17.

McConaughey has an extremely limited range, he can only play Alpha rednecks from the Southwestern US which would've been totally inappropriate for the character of Jack.

Every "straight" man who doesn't marry by 40 is obviously gay.

Every gay man who doesn't find the right man and get married by 40 is obviously secretly straight.

~DL Logic

r133 that's not what people are saying.

I have no idea if Leo is gay or straight. But saying he must be gay because he's not married is ridiculous. As a rule of thumb, the more attractive (good-looking, rich and/or powerful) a man is, the longer he can 'play the field'. Some of those alpha types might still get married fairly early to project a 'family man' image, or you know, they actually think they met 'the one' ... but I think a LOT of straight men get married for one reason only - access to at least one pussy. Alpha types don't need that, obviously. Leo never has to worry about access to pussy, if that is what he wants.

What you also have to keep in mind is his upbringing - I think it was fairly stable, but quite unconventional. His father is an underground comic artist who collaborated with Timothy Leary and Laurie Anderson.

Again, I have no idea if Leo is gay or straight, but you hardly compare him to the average American man.

R134 Then you've skipped about 1/4 of the posts.

Most straight men, if not married by the time they're in their forties, have at least one long-term live-in relationship with a woman that spanned several years. And many also have kids, whether planned or by accident. Look at all the rich/famous straight guys with "oops" babies.

It is extremely unusual for a straight man Leo's age, regardless of socioeconomic status, to have remained single with only a dating history with women and no long-term relationships.

Ben Affleck and Jude Law are textbook examples of the love lives that straight men with money tend to have.

I agree that you'd expect a rich, famous and (formerly) good-looking man like Leo who allegedly sleeps around a lot to have fathered at least a few 'oops' babies by age 46. But maybe he really is too smart and careful to let some lingerie model bimbo 'trap' him with a kid. He certainly comes across as a control freak.

[quote] Ben Affleck and Jude Law are textbook examples of the love lives that straight men with money tend to have.

Sean Penn and Johnny Depp as well.

DiCaprio's relationship with Gisele Bundchen seemed very plausible to me. This was a long time ago, but he did treat her like a real girlfriend, i.e., went out in public together, etc.

IF Leo is straight, he must have had a (reversible) vasectomy. Maybe he had some of his sperm frozen as back-up in case he changes his mind and wants to pass on his precious genes one day. When you date one social climbing 20-something bikini model after another, sooner or later one of them will get pregnant even if you use condoms religiously.

And, as she writes in her new book, "Lessons: My Path to a Meaningful Life" she also realized that DiCaprio, was no longer right for her.

No longer numbing myself with smoking, drinking and too much work, I was becoming more and more aware of things that I’d chosen not to look at,” she wrote. “Was I alone in wanting to do some serious soul-searching while he stayed the same? In the end, unfortunately, the answer was yes.”

Remember when Leo dated Blake Lively?

That looks unnatural, R145.

I agree that he has been smart about not impregnating any women.

With Gisele, I think she wanted marriage and children and he said he wasn't ready.

Straight men who aren't married with kids by 40 are gay. Period. No debate about it. Gay men who aren't partnered by 40 are straight. No debate about it. No way it could be that they haven't found the right one, or that they don't want kids, or that they like the idea of not being committed, etc. There simply is no wiggle room here.

R147 No one is saying all straight men who haven’t settled down or had kids by the time they’re 40 is gay. But there’s something strange about Leo and his dating habits. He’s clearly not capable of having a long term relationship with a woman who is an equal or closer to his age.

Also, there's so much societal pressure to get married, have a child. To show that you're "normal" and "one of us." There's a scene on the Departed where the Alec Baldwin characters hilariously sums up, quickly, and in a nutshell, why a man needs to get married and have children. (Forgot the exact words, but part of it was "show that your dick actually works.")

R146 I actually think Blake was the last “girlfriend” Leo looked interested in.

After Gisele came Bar Refaeli, and that relationship was pretty much exposed as a total sham during her tax evasion trial. Western media mostly ignored that case, but English-speaking Israeli newspapers run a few interesting articles about it. From what I remember, it was proven that Bar lied about living with Leo and actually spent most of her time in Israel during those years (where she lived in apartments rented under other people's names). A witness said Bar's mother (and manager) planted false stories about her daughter's relationship with Leonardo to make it seem like they were 'getting serious' and moving in together. Leonardo himself refused to testify and confirm he was in a relationship with Bar during the time period in question. And there's another thing - Bar has a history of faking relationships. Before her 'romance' with Leo, she was shortly married to a family friend to avoid military service.

That's still no prove Leo is gay (I'm really on the fence about this), but it's certainly 'suspicious'. Why would he agree to such an arrangement if he didn't have something to hide?

At least Bar had Leo looking relatively in shape.

Unnatural! (R152.)

Leo is probably bisexual leaning toward preferring men. Same with Clooney. Clooney may be gay, no bisexual.

I was convinced Leo and BCoop had a thing in the early 2010’s.

I still don’t understand the Rihanna situation several years ago.

R156, wasn't that just one incident, with Rihanna? Rihanna does not seem like someone who will beard for someone. I've always just thought it was a chance meeting (A List party), Leo was starstruck by her b/c she has a cool vibe. She, in turn, said what the hell, let's see what this guy is about. Poof, it's over.

I dunno. He signed on to play a gay man in Total Eclipse where he did full frontal nudity and sex scenes with (the disgusting) David Thewlis, which earned him the respect of his peers in the business, but to me, he just doesn't ping.

And if he were gay, why would hire a female escort to come to his hotel room alone? What would the point be?

R9, you mean in this clip?

He looks convincing, like he really wants to fuck Vera at the 2:09 mark

R14, if you're a sex worker you just have to

At this point, I think every adult male who works with kids in Hollywood is a pedo. As is anyone who associates with them.

R157 Nah they were definitely hooking up at one point. A Playboy model tweeted that she saw them making out at the Playboy mansion but later deleted her tweet.

This Tumblr post highlights why I think Leonardo DiCaprio and Bradley Cooper had a thing.

R163 This one too.

[quote]During those press interviews for Once Upon a Time..., I was really struck by how charmless & sour he was, particularly next to Brad & Margot

I thought it was just me that noticed that. He seemed completely over everything and looked like he was done even pretending to care.

At some point, when he's tired of or unable to lose weight for roles, he'll end up like Jack Nicholson.

He could be attractive again if he would watch what he ate and worked out just a few times a week. He seems depressed.

Leo rents several apartments in NYC so his movements can't be tracked by paparazzi. I was working on a listing once where the surprise client was Leo, checking out a place down in the west village. It was just me and the other agent and him checking out the the apartment. OH, and a male friend he brought along with him. They were checking out the place as a couple would looking for a new place - "not sure if it has enough closet space," "you can put your so and so over here..." The male friend seemed more than just an advisor. I have no factual information about their relationship. But it would seem that Leo has a close coterie of male friends and maybe he was getting this place for his friend and somewhere for him to crash as well. But their language belied a certain intimacy - not necessarily of a sexual nature, but I wouldn't take it off the table. I would imagine the life of Leo is a sad one much like Tom Cruise at this point. A lot of denial to the point of mental plausibility. He has probably convinced himself that he can never have certain things, or be open.

A straight man his age and with his money in Hollywood would have been through at least one wife by now and have almost grown kids. Yet he has never been part of any serious relationship. He doesn't work that much to the point he can't have a private happy family life. He's my age. He'll be 47 next month, pushing 50. He is way too old to be acting the way he is when it comes to partying around with a pussy posey, Beats Fucking models. That is not happiness. That's escaping your reality in a very destructive way. He's an amazing actor though. One of my favorites.

I tend to think he's not gay. Instead he is damaged. He can't form emotional connections with women, so he just uses them for sex until he's tired of them. That's my guess.

BTW, the apartment was 10s of thousands a dollars a month. It wasn't a one bedroom walk up. And he was nice, conversant and kind. Good guy. But there is definitely some sort of arrested development going on there when you look at his actions.

R168 OMG thank you for that story! Tell us more about your thoughts on him. Was he nice? Did he smell like some people say? Did he make any conversation with you?

Also, what year was that?

R168/R170 Amazing! Were you starstruck?

R166 Jack did marry and have children at some point though.

If he was gay why would he send his peeps around to find a woman in a casino to sit on his dick? Because that's really what a gay man wants? Anonymous pussy?

Why does he have to be gay or straight? Why can’t he be bisexual?

I wasn't star struck, no. I like him but not someone I would fan out about. It WAS cool though to interact with him that way, just one on one, walking around with him though the place. He is nice, no pretense about him, very casual and down to earth. I didn't get an assistant or worker vibe from the interaction between him and his friend. It was more like good buddies, but the way they were talking about the place, it was as if both of them would be living there - not just Leo, not just the friend. It was as if two buddies where looking for a place they could rent together. Although Leo is a multimillionaire and has absolutely no reason to need to split the rent to get along.

R176 Nice to hear he was a nice guy. Are his eyes as pretty as they are in TV? Also, when you met him, was it within the last 10 years?

R176 was leo hot in person? What about the friend?

r175 BECAUSE BISEXUALITY DOESN'T EXIST!!! BISEXUALITY IS VIOLENCE AGAINST GAY MEN! IT'S VIOLENCE, I TELL YOU! LITERAL VIOLENCE!!!

[quote]I tend to think he's not gay. Instead he is damaged. He can't form emotional connections with women, so he just uses them for sex until he's tired of them. That's my guess.

Straight men do this all the time, but they still get married and have long-term relationships.

As I said before, I'm on the fence about Leo being gay. The barely legal girlfriends really aren't a good look these days. And I feel like there are just TOO many stories about him hooking up with/hitting on women that are far from flattering - like the headphones thing, him having bad body odor, not being able to get it up, or just behaving like a total pig (see the Elizabeth Berkley story). There's no way this is all being 'planted' by his PR team.

On the other hand - most hook-up stories with women come from 'anonymous sources'. They're posted on blind item sites, or someone on a gossip page claims they know someone who knows someone whose cousin's female friend had a one-night stand with Leo. Whereas people who are actually known to work in the entertainment industry have hinted at him being gay (e.g. indie actor Craig Chester back in 1995, or musician/composer Stephen Trask in that now infamous 'fake girlfriends for Leonardo DiCaprio' video. )

Who'd you rather believe - someone who actually works in showbiz and is therefore likely to have met Leonardo/someone associated with him - or some anonymous alleged 'friend of a friend of a friend'?

"someone spilling some tea on Bryan Singer on another message board but I cant find the original source (I found it on ONTD)

Andy Ask Gary about Broadway 4D. Ask Gary what he did to Nick after he used him to molest children.

Andy It is not my job to go to FBI. I don't care if this is TMZ. I don't care if anyone believes me or not. This is how I'm choosing to anonymously give information. That path leads to the truth for those wanting to follow it. That's someone else's job. Bryan Singer gave Brad Renfro his first hit of drugs on the set of Apt Pupil. Brad was pressured into a lot of things during his time on and off the set. The writer Brandon and their friend Christopher McQuarrie would also have underage guys at parties as well. My boyfriend went to USC with Bryan and he invited us out a lot between 1997-2000. There were so many parties with underage guys I'm not surprised more are not coming forward, Though, Michael Egan is an ******* and used many, many drugs, I never saw anyone force him to do anything. I did see Dan Jinks use his best picture oscar for American Beauty to penetrate a 17 year old. He brought it out to the hot tub where my friends and I were at during one of these parties. He tells us who wants it? and this drugged 17 year blonde guy was the unlucky winner. I'm pretty sure if you ask around, you'll see how deep the rabbit hole goes, from Kevin Spacey and his husband of over a decade, to the David Geffen parties.. who is the richest gay man on earth and has done unspeakable things to so many people, sexually and financially and gotten away with it. LEO DECAPRIO was an insane human being during that time. He was running around in his underwear at most of these parties high as a kite. I cannot believe he is respected by anyone in the industry. Bryan has his issues however I never saw him do anything to pressure anyone, but I did see him give Brad Renfro drugs for the first time. Brad was a really great guy, who was forced to have sex from the velvet mafia to get roles and keep up his drug habit they got him addicted to in the first place. He was one of my best friends and was actually straight. That's what happens all the time here, they place their wealth and power to pressure so many into drugs and sex for rewards.. Sometimes there is no reward, they just want to extort and basically rape underaged teens. look into more... and what I can recall from that time, there were casting agents who knew about this. Also, Jonathan Brandis and Corey Haim are directly linked to this group of men. I know someone else who has huge secrets on all of them - McCauley Culkin. and his father."

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How could any parent who loves their child ever put their kid in that position?

Good question about all these child stars. Their parents seem to be the worst. They never anticipate or care about the predators that work with their kids. R185

r182 Everything that is quoted there comes from anonymous blogs from 20 years ago. It's all BS and it's the same shit everyone has heard. There is nothing new, though. No one was underage, because if there was, they would be 40 now and not hiding in the shadows. These were willing and able LEGAL aged boys floating in those pools, desperate to "get discovered" by Hollywood movers and shakers. Trust me, I knew those guys and they were as gross as the rumors about Singer. They were all rolling around in the same pig pen!

R187 Ok. What do you think about that? This was on september.

The rationalizations are reminding me of Michael Jackson: He never had time to be a child, he was overworked, etc. That's why he hangs around young children all the time.

Wait, Leo frequented Singer's parties circa 1997 - 2000?!

I actually DO vaguely remember that there was some kind of connection, maybe even business association, between the Singer crowd and Dana Giacchetto whom Leo used to hang around with in the late 90. Giacchetto was married to a woman I think, but he had major gayface. He died of a drug overdose in 2016.

R182, not underage guys, they are kids!!

Leo seems damaged with issues. I saw a video, can’t remember if it was from a documentary, but some young Hollywood kids around a table out at a restaurant and he was cruel and mean to the young women..belittling and hostile...I sense anger issues.

Not being married, his parents divorced by the time he was 1 and only child. Put into show business at young age, around pedos at the very least and then teen heart throb status.....who wouldn’t have issues? He didn’t have a normal kid experience, broken family. He hangs out with buddies, seems the only attachment he can make.

That video in Cannes was crazy..he looked pissed...and brad Pitt right there...made me see what a pro brad is and the difference when you become huge star as an adult and by choice vs. kid.

In the video on sitcom set....very flirty and effeminate. He comes across more butch now in interviews etc. he was sweet kid but really needy for attention.

I still wonder if the “ hi faggot” painted on his car was personal

In high school his nickname was “Leonardo retardo”. He’s weird

I have no trouble thinking about Leo going to Bryan Singer parties.

[quote]vaguely remember that there was some kind of connection, maybe even business association, between the Singer crowd and Dana Giacchetto

A venture capital firm co-owned by Leo's good pal Dana Giachetto invested in the now infamous Digital Entertainment Network (DEN). Of course, Giachetto vehemently denied having anything to do with the abuse allegations against DEN founder Marc Collins-Rector, or even having met 'any of those people'.

He has connections to DEN? Wow, creepy.

Leo was an obnoxious little brat in the 90s, he's lucky there were no Smartphones or social media back then. His behavior was often deplorable.

Pedophiles are usually so ugly . Leo has a serious drinking problem and neglects his hygiene/ health . That can be from trauma

[quote] It's all BS and it's the same shit everyone has heard. There is nothing new, though. No one was underage, because if there was, they would be 40 now and not hiding in the shadows. These were willing and able LEGAL aged boys floating in those pools, desperate to "get discovered" by Hollywood movers and shakers.

I doubt Vanity Fair would have puiblished an article about his accusers and their accusations if it was all BS.

Seems like Leonardo Dicaprio was surrounded by at least two pedophiles when he was a child: Brian Peck and Bob Villard. Steven Marshall an executive producer of Growing Pains was also a pedophile, so I don't know if that counts as a connection or not. Bob Villard took this picture of Kirk Cameron which is suspect as fuck. Hell all the pedophiles on the set of Growing Pains not only explain why Leonardo is the way he is but also Kirk Cameron as well.

R192, that video you're talking about sounds like Don's Plum which was banned from ever being released in the US or Canada (I'm German and bought it on DVD years ago during my Leo phase). Apparently most of the acting was totally improvised, but ... it was still a film. But speaking of Don's Plum, a few years back there was a fascinating documentary/NY Post article about the story behind that movie and why it was banned. It's a pretty complicated story, but one thing the director said was that both Leo and Tobey Maguire insisted some scenes were cut because they made them seem too gay. What I found most interesting though was the way he described Tobey Maguire and his relationship/interaction with Leo. I remember being like, holy shit; the guy sounds fucked up.

As for Leo coming from a broken home, I'm not sure you can call it that. His parents divorced early, but apparently they stayed on good terms, and his father was always present in his son's life (I think he actually lived next door for most of Leo's childhood). To this day Leo seems to have a great relationship with both of his parents. They were unconventional hippie types, especially the father, but I don't think they were fucked up.

Kirk was definitely molested .

I'm pretty sure that when I first read that Don's Plum story, there were several videos linked in the article. Don't see them now ....hmmmm.....

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I loved this kid actor . He was super talented. He died of a drug overdose( heroin) age 17

^any of

Christopher Pettiet was apparently friends with both Leo and Tobey Maguire ....

Chris Petiet was close friends with Leo and Toby McGuire

[quote] Leo seems damaged with issues. I saw a video, can’t remember if it was from a documentary, but some young Hollywood kids around a table out at a restaurant and he was cruel and mean to the young women..belittling and hostile...I sense anger issues. Not being married, his parents divorced by the time he was 1 and only child. Put into show business at young age, around pedos at the very least and then teen heart throb status.....who wouldn’t have issues? He didn’t have a normal kid experience, broken family. He hangs out with buddies, seems the only attachment he can make.

No offense, R192, but IMO, boo fucking hoo. Get help, Leo. You have all the money in the world to get the best of help.

R192 Let’s not praise Brad now. He’s dated underage girls and is an abusive alcoholic.

R189 Leo dates women in their early 20’s. He doesn’t hang out with little kids and have sleepovers with them like MJ did.

Leo is gross looking

During those Once Upon a Time in Hollywood interviews, I felt like Leo was jealous of Brad who has aged so well and still has that boyish charm, while Leo himself looks like a fat malicious Persian cat despite being a decade younger.

Leo was such a beautiful twink, but he hit the wall HARD at a young age.

R215 Leo is always like that in interviews. It was nothing personal. If he was so jealous of Brad he wouldn’t have agreed to star in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood in the first place.

I’m not in love with young Leo like everyone else. I think he looked his best in his early 30’s.

Christopher Pettiet was definitely a victim of Bob Villard. I wonder if Andrew Koenig, the guy who played Boner on Growing Pains, was a victim too since he wound up killing himself.

[quote] [R189] Leo dates women in their early 20’s. He doesn’t hang out with little kids and have sleepovers with them like MJ did.

I didn’t intend to say Leo is a pedophile.

I meant that people make all kinds of excuses for his behavior, arrested behavior, etc. Basically, cutting slack for these celebrities. If it were anyone else, you would say Grow Up and Move On.

R220 Unlike MJ, no one makes excuses for Leo’s behavior. He is constantly dragged for dating young models on the Internet and he regularly gets made fun of at award shows for it too. This is the only sympathetic thread about Leo I’ve seen on DL.

We're almost half-way through this thread, and while I rolled my eyes at OP, I have to admit I'm starting to think he/she is right. With all those people around him - both in his youth and adult life - how could Leo not have been abused?

The dude was surrounded by too many pedophiles and perverts from a young age. I'd be surprised if none of them tried to touch such a cute boy.

R210 Here they are photographed by convicted pedo Bob Villard.

Omg....R224

[quote]During those Once Upon a Time in Hollywood interviews, I felt like Leo was jealous of Brad who has aged so well and still has that boyish charm, while Leo himself looks like a fat malicious Persian cat despite being a decade younger.

Maybe if Leo cut back on all the food and worked out a few times a week he would look decent again.

R226 He was so hot in The Departed.

Some of the cases illustrate how a more rigorous screening process could have detected adults who posed a danger to young actors.

The Los Angeles Police Department had been monitoring child manager Bob Villard even before 1987, when he was among nine people indicted by a federal grand jury in New Jersey on charges of transporting child pornography, according to published accounts. He was convicted but, upon appeal, the charges against him fell apart because prosecutors had been unable to produce the sexually explicit images at trial.

Villard was again accused of child pornography in 2001, after searches of his home uncovered thousands of photographs of boys in skimpy bathing suits posed in sexually suggestive positions, police said. He pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor and was sentenced to three years of probation.

Throughout this period, Villard touted his work with aspiring young actors, some of whom would later become major Hollywood stars — among them Tobey Maguire, Leonardo DiCaprio and Danny Nucci. Villard boasted on a company website that as a manager he had "guided the careers of dozens of successful film and television actors."

In 2005, Villard was back in court and pleaded no contest to the felony charge of committing a lewd act on a child. The victim was a 13-year-old boy who sought him out as an acting coach. Villard is serving an eight-year prison sentence.

"People like this are predators who prey on little kids who want to be the next Justin Bieber — and they're told, 'That's what's done, this is all normal in the industry,' " said Katie Albracht, the Los Angeles County deputy district attorney who prosecuted the 2005 Villard case.

Since the phenomenal success of Titanic I have never seen him happy anyway. He always has this fake smile or this tense look and most of the time his eyes are dead.

R219 Look at this letter Bob Villard wrote about Christopher Pettiet after his death:

One of my young clients, Christopher Pettiet, age 24, died of a accidental drug overdose last Wednesday, April 12. 2000. I met Chris a good 10 years ago, when he was best friends with Tobey Maguire, to whom, in my bumbling fashion (and for sad lack of Tobey having a better offer) I was makeshift manager.

Chris was hip and cool and rich at that time ó and the most flashy and successful of a young trio of actor/friends centered by Tobey and bookended on the other side by Leonardo DiCaprio. He starred in "The Young Riders" TV series, and in several films and TV movies, including "Don't Tell Mom the Baby-sitter's Dead."

Chris was on the small side when he was a kid. He was tiny and all legs and big blue eyes, and would most commonly sit like a frog when he was talking to you. He loved to surf, sneak out of his bedroom window at night to run around with his friends, listen to obnoxious music so loud that it would literally make his car bounce up and down with the bass-beats. He grew up to be over 6 feet tall, every bit as hip and cool, and, when life got tough and acting jobs became fewer, just about impoverished -- living from one small residual check to the next.

I ended up working as his manager for the past four years, always desperately walking the fine line between giving Chris support, covering up his problems and occasional catastrophes, and forcing him to face facts and take responsibility for the numerous things he did, and did not do, which made life much harder for him. I'm proud to say that I cheated and schemed and lied on behalf of Chris to keep him in favor with his agents and casting directors, and keep his career moving forward regardless of all the personal problems which kept coming forth to clobber him -- some of his own making, some just cruel fate.

I'll take it as a compliment from Chris that, for all my pompous, self-important arm-chair quarter-backing on how he should live his life (as if this colorful, mess of a life which is my own qualified me to advise anyone on how to do anything!), he never fired me as his manager for more than five hours at a time.

Chris would never, ever, admit to me that he had a problem with drugs, but so damnable old and so painfully experienced and opinionated, I spent the past two years trying to convince him to go with mutual friends to AA meetings (he went to a couple), or find some other organization to help him get a better handle on his life.

It's bitterly ironic that Chris cared so much about my opinion on innumerable things, yet felt he could never admit to me that he had a drug problem (despite the fact I obviously knew). How sad and stupid that Chris would think it would lessen my opinion of him or make me see him as anything less than just simply Chris, who I cared about and wanted to help.

I've reached a point in my life where, in order to preserve what little sanity I have left, I believe my achievements are more worthy than my failures. And I truly believe I helped Chris through a lot of difficult years and situations, and truly do not believe the loss of Chris is my failure ó but isn't it strange how what you believe is not always in agreement with what you feel?

Now the armchair quarterback is back in his office, alone and pounding these damned typewriter keys, wishing I could have found a word or a gesture or a strategy that would have not only prevented this stupid outcome for Chris, but could have convinced Chris of all the terrific things he could have had, and could have been and, in fact, all the wonderful things Chris already was. Including flawed, which we, all of use, are.

I know that, just these few days later, Chris is already of The Past, which I can never, ever change. And I know that now, I can only take his unnecessarily fear-filled friendship, his earnest love (and his sometimes frog-like beauty), and reinvest it in some future Chrises.

Whose futures, with this secret, unspoken piece of Chris which I shall so tenderly and lovingly place within them, should turn out -- please God -- much finer and brighter for the troubles Chris had to go through.

Chris' mom, Helen, had asked that, in lieu of flowers, anyone who would like to remember Chris should please do so by making whatever small contribution they might care to, to the young people's acting studio where Chris got his start ó and always felt appreciated and welcomed, even as an adult. It would have made Chris happy to know that some other young, hopeful kids, could find the support and opportunity he found there.

R227 He sure was. I don’t think he’s been shirtless in the last 10 years in any of his movies, has he? Last time I remember him shirtless was in Wolf of Wall Street and that was filmed in 2012.

[quote]Since the phenomenal success of Titanic I have never seen him happy anyway. He always has this fake smile or this tense look and most of the time his eyes are dead.

Agreed. He looked much happier pre-Titanic.

Yes, he seems unhappy. we drag Kirk Cameron but it makes sense he turned out the way he did if he was abused. His photos included shots of Glenn Scarpelli...wonder if he is a victim as well. Do you think the pedos in entertainment prey more on young boys than girls? Didn’t Tracey Gold have a serious eating disorder? The parents suck.

An executive producer for the 1980s sit-com “Growing Pains” has been sentenced in Arkansas to 7 1/2 years in prison for distribution of child pornography. Steven Marshall was arrested last April 15 on charges of distribution and possession of child pornography. Marshall pleaded guilty to distribution and the possession charge was dropped.

Authorities say he engaged in sending and receiving child pornography and participated in online chats detailing child abduction, bondage, rapes and murders.

U.S. District Judge J. Leon Holmes said Tuesday that Marshall’s sentence exceeded the five-year minimum for distribution because of the nature of the pictures and language used in chat rooms.

He dated Gisele and Blake Lively, two of the most masculine faced famous women on the planet. He's not gay, he just prefers his women to look like men.

I remember seeing The Beach in 2000 and being so confused. It was the first of Leo's films that was shot after the release of Titanic, and you could tell he was a changed man. He wasn't just playing a different character; it went far deeper than that. That naturalness and vulnerability he had in his early roles that made him so interesting to watch was gone. He seemed ... hardened. And even as a 12-year-old superfan who kissed the ground he walked on I thought, my God, he sucks. This is embarrassing. What the fuck is he doing?

From an LSA thread:

What's with the spreading bae had to do? Always opening his crotch towards the cameraman. You can actually see his balls hanging in the first one, no underwear?

DL is the only place I'll ever admit to this, but I even developed this conspiracy theory that Leo was replaced by a doppelgänger after Titanic. THAT'S how noticeable and confusing this change in his demeanor and 'vibe' was to me.

From an LSA thread:

A teenager(14-15) with a damn teddybear? Wtf was the photographer aiming for?

R237 The Beach is an interesting film in Leo’s filmography. It may be the first and last time he starred in a weird, out there film. Ever since then it’s only been prestigious films. Regarding his naturalness and vulnerability onscreen, you didn’t think he still possessed that in Catch Me If You Can?

R224,wouldn’t load for me

R242 Try this one

I am amazed that he is so articulate and charming! I don't think he is gay either!

R241, I don't think his acting in Catch Me If You Can was very good, no. There was a vulnerability about his character, but it seemed very forced to me. The film still worked though because he allowed himself to be cute and charming. And funny ... I actually think he's still a good comedic actor.

243, Christopher always looks haunted

R230 and R231 (the letter) = creepy as hell. That's one of those pieces of writing that is supposedly about one thing (the young man who killed himself) but is actually about another thing entirely (in this case the writer, who uses the letter to repeatedly humblebrag and position himself as a benevolent friend to a fucked up person who eventually gave in to their fucked up-ness). I get bad vibes from that and I've never heard of that guy before this thread.

What happened to Bob Villard ? What an evil fuck

at R238, that is a weird photo, coupled with angry / bothered face. He looks more grown-up there. I can’t guess the age, maybe 17? Yes, you can see balls, His ass is propped up so high, it’s like presenting hole, almost.

Other child actors did not have his luck. Corey Feldman was perhaps the biggest child star of the 1980s, a hero in such hits as Gremlins, The Goonies, Stand by Meand The Lost Boys. In 2011 Feldman decided to speak out about the abuse he suffered as a young actor. “The No 1 problem in Hollywood was and is — and always will be — pedophilia,” he said, adding that by the time he was 14 he was “surrounded” by molesters. Feldman met another child actor, Corey Haim, on a film set in the mid-1980s. They became best friends, starring in numerous movies together and sharing their own television show.

Describing their first meeting in his memoir, Feldman wrote: “An adult male had convinced Corey that it was perfectly normal for older men and younger boys in the business to have sexual relations ... So they walked off to a secluded area between two trailers ... and Haim allowed himself to be sodomised.”

Haim asked Feldman: “So I guess we should play around like that too?” He replied: “No, that’s not what kids do, man.”

In 2012 Feldman told a British tabloid: “When I was 14 and 15, things were happening to me. These older men were leching around like vultures. It was basically me lying there pretending I was asleep and them going about their business.”

Both actors went on to suffer mental health problems, alcoholism and addiction to crack and heroin. In 2010, aged 38, Haim died of pneumonia, having reportedly entered rehab 15 times. Feldman said a “Hollywood mogul” was to blame for his friend’s death, adding: “The people who did this to me are still out there and still working — some of the richest, most powerful people in this business.”

“People look at Corey Feldman and think he’s a drug addict, so why should they listen to him?” says Anne Henry, co-founder of the BizParentz Foundation, an organisation established to protect child actors. “But that plays into the predators’ hands. They don’t want victims to be believed. We estimate that about 75 per cent of the child actors who ‘went off the rails’ suffered earlier abuse. Drug addiction, alcoholism, suicide attempts, wandering through life without a purpose — they can all be symptoms.”

In the mid-2000s Henry was the proud mother of an 11-year-old child actor when she spotted shirtless photographs of him trading on eBay for up to $US400 each. “My kid wasn’t famous,” she says. “But pictures of Leonardo DiCaprio when he was 11 were only selling for 10 bucks so I was worried.”

Henry says her research led her “to websites where men boasted about following these kids, where they ‘screencapped’ little boys on the TV every night. We found fetish sites: one still exists that is focused on little boys working in the entertainment industry, full of pictures of them in wet swimsuits. We eventually learnt that our kids’ photographs were being used as gateways to child pornography sites.”

Bob Villard, an agent who managed the young DiCaprio and Tobey Maguire, was convicted of selling images of children on eBay. As far back as 1987 Villard was in possession of child pornography and in 2005 he was sentenced to eight years in prison for committing a “lewd act” on a 13-year-old boy. There is no suggestion that DiCaprio or Maguire was ever a victim of abuse.

Another weird photo

Yes r251 He definitely violated Leo and Toby

Why are people saying that Leo dates women half his age because he must have been abused? Straight men do that all the time. It disgusts me, but there's no shortage of women who are willing to trade on their youth and looks to date a man with money, fame, and power.

That would explain why Tobey and Leo are still so closed over thirty years later

R253 I’m not saying it’s the reason why, but it may explain his strange dating habits. It’s not like Leo is abusive, in fact several of his model girlfriends have spoken positively about him after their break ups with him.

There is someone is this thread who seems almost angry that people are suggesting he is gay or bi even though many posters have made very good points.

[quote]I still don’t understand the Rihanna situation several years ago.

I think they were both just trying to get attention (even A-listers will do stupid shit for publicity).

I know that Corey Feldman has suffered, but I just can't stand him.

r201 Only con artists would wait 15 years to hurl another heaping pile of accusations at the guy. This way their lawyers can collect and review past testimony and past accusations from previous accusers (WHO GOT NOWHERE WITH THEIR LAWSUITS) and mirror the accusations. Let's remember, these are people who want cash for their trauma, NOT JUSTICE! The burden of proof is very low in a civil trial, so lawyers salivate for these clients.

IT's all bullshit and money grabbing.

It’s sickening . My adult son showed interest I. Doing commercials etc. He was smart cute etc. I thank God every fucking day that I never went along with it. And it’s a good thing . He’s had a difficult life anyway ,

But this child pedo crap is beyond horrific

I know they said that Heather O'Rourke died from a flu but there are a lot of rumors she was abused and killed. I don't trust anything medias or hollywood say anymore.

OK can we fucking stop with the history of Hollywood pedos and get back to Leo? JFC.

The thread is about whether or not Leo was abused R262

But it's digressing into long posts about unrelated things.

The reason I push back against these bullshit accusations, is because there are REAL pedophiles in that business, who are doing REAL harm to children, BUT NO ONE KNOWS THEIR NAMES! Singer is the only name that rolls off everyone's tongues because he's the most famous. But, the real predictors are ones getting away with it because they aren't household names. Numerous have been covered here, but everyone runs back to Singer and Spacey because they can't recall the names of real sickos. It becomes a joke. Then people post these stupid posts where they say things like, "I kind of remember a story one time, a long time ago, where someone posted something, about a Hollywood actor-- could've been Paul Walker-- or someone who looked like him--, and he was in his underwear, in a swimming pool, and a girl saw his butt!!! He probably assaulted her!"

THESE POSTS ARE SO FUCKIN' STUPID! Let's just imply, and speculate, and come to conclusions without any facts. Just magazine articles by journalists that are looking for a scandal because they earn clout from their publishers for the number of clicks the article gets. Everyone is getting played, and no one is being held accountable who should be.

Oh fucking hell r265 start your own thread.

Why bother.

R266 You certainly did not take the time to read more than three lines because it all has a link. Apparently you're here to ruin the thread Complaining that only Singer or Spacey were named clearly shows that you don't understand what you are reading. R266 is right start your own thread

^R267 is right

Nobody fucking cares about Bryan Fucking Singer or Kevin Fucking Spacey or whether or not Corey Fucking Feldman got his asshole fingered in 1987 on a fucking Leo Dicaprio thread. JFC. You people are obsessive.

NO ONE KNOWS IF DICAPRIO WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED!!!! IT'S ALL SPECULATION AND PROJECTING A NARRATIVE ON SOMEONE THAT'S COMPLETELY MADE UP!!!

That is my point!

Blocked the crazy troll

There are some batshit obsessive DLers who can inject Bryan Singer into any thread, and try to take it over.

WON'T SOMEONE CONFIRM ALREADY THAT LEO GOT HIS ASSHOLE FINGERED IN 1989!!!!!!

I feel particularly badly for gay kids who are molested by these beasts . It probably creates a lot of conflicting emotions. Makes sex not appealing to say the least .

Andrew Koenig, aka Boner from Growing Pains, sad death.

R166 Respected?

I have no idea about Leo’s sexuality, but the incredible thing I notice is the rsducal change in his demeanour from when he was a kid in the OP video to how he is now. He was so exuberant, open, happy and now every picture and video I see if him now he seems unhappy, tense, uncomfortable and closed. Obviously oriole change as they grow up, but it’s kind of sad to see how much he changed.

^*radical change

I do not understand the preoccupation with this guy. He's a fuggo who is inexplicably regarded as the king of Hollywood. Why? Because he knows where the bodies are buried?

R265 is a fangurl in denial who won't accept what all clued in people have known for DECADES - that Spacey and Singer are creeps. And Paul Walker openly dated young girls, it wasn't even a secret

R259, the burden of proof in a civil trial is not "very low"

And weird how the "They waited years to come forward so their accusations can't be true!" claims get thrown at some victims, but not others. Tons of Boy Scout victims, Catholic Church victims, Jerry Sandusky and Larry Nassar victims waited years to come forward yet few people here dump on them. It's like you choose to believe accusations against people you don't like or don't care about (Catholic priests, boy scout leaders, sports doctors and coaches) while automatically disbelieving the accusations against celebrities you like

Exactly r282. I pray the next movement is exposing powerful men in Hollywood who prey on children

I wonder if Edward Furlong was ever abused? He derailed pretty quickly. Very sad.

Very likely r284

The kind of fame and adulation he received after Titanic had to be a profoundly damaging experience.

I bet if he had to do it all over again, he'd have just done Boogie Nights instead.

I just pretty much assume any kid actor who either became an adult actor of went completely off the rails was abused. Unless their parents are an important part of their career, guiding it, managing it. We always say it's a nasty business, and it really is. It allows a lot of evil doing to hide in plain site.

Leo is a great actor. His performance in Django Unchained was chilling. And that was the same year as the Wolf of Wall Street and soon Revenant. It's simple. He is a very good actor. Probably one of the best working now. I can't think of many male actors his age doing the same thing.

He's also managed to completely avoid franchises--particularly the Marvel or DC juggernauts. That's saying quite a lot in this day and age.

How many pedophiles were working on the set of the Outsiders? That would be fascinating.

I wish these predators were just finally exposed, all of them. There are some major major players I am sure. If MeeToo can take down Harvey Winestein, no one is untouchable.

His latest movie looks like a circus - the cast seems so random and it seems like the movie is a joke just to see how many names they could cram into one movie.

I miss when he did edgy movies before Titanic.

I don't think Leo is a very good actor at all, although I recognize I'm now going to be called a dumb cunt in search of a grease fire for it.

He never seem spontaneous unlike when he was younger.

R291 Ironically, he was better when he was just starting out than he is now.

Bryan Singer is connected to Bob Villard in that Stephen Bender, who played young Clark Kent in Bryan Singers' Superman movie, was represented by Bob Villard's talent agency when they cast him.

Google Martin Weiss and Corey Haim

Here you go .

The 1990 television adaption of the Outsiders had two of its leads, Rodney Harvey and Harold Pruett, die of drug overdoses. The Open Secret account says that Rodney Harvey was molested by Hollywood bigwigs. Leonardo DiCaprio had a small role in that tv show, so maybe that's another connection to Leo. Rodney Harvey and Harold Pruett were very good-looking young men.

Gross headline, OP. You're as bad as the casting couch troll. I know he's got an Oscar and $200 mil in the bank but its obnoxious to frame something like that in a headline that goes on forever. He was not "likely a victim of abuse". He had a professional association with some fucked up pedos who were also associated with thousands of teens over the years.

Yes, There were many victims. Maybe even 100 for every victim that went public. We'll never know. Still there is zero evidence or indication he was a victim. Maybe its irritating because it assumes proximity is how these pedos operate. They are very selective about choosing their victims but usually, it's not the working clients who are targets.

A lot of borderlines and narcissists will tell you they are bipolar . It’s a get out of jail Card .

Wrong thread sorry

R297 If this thread was about an actress your response wouldn’t be so dismissive.

R298 If this thread was about an actress your response wouldn’t be so dismissive

[quote]I know he's got an Oscar and $200 mil in the bank

$200 million? Try $300 million, bitch.

R296 Surely this can't be the same guy?

It’s the same guy r304 . A convicted pedophile with no conscience

That twitter profile is insane.

He’s a really crazy perv who uses his gay identity as a cover . He is not a gay man he’s a pedophile man who likes boys the age of 9 to 14

I know someone who used to work with him . I wish we could dox him. He has not changed one iota . Still a dangerous predator.

He was very good in "The Quick and the Dead" as the probably bastard son of the de facto town sheriff played by Gene Hackman.

So they dropped the child stars and they now prefer to traumatize young influencers.. Nothing stops these psychopaths

Why are there so many more abused boys compared to girls, in the entertainment industry?

R311 They're aren't. The girls just get less attention because people think it's normal for a young girl to be with a powerful older man. It's a deep dark secret when it happens to boys because it threatens their manhood and identity in a way that a girls would not be compromised by being with a man.

R297 I always thought Rodney Harvey was bisexual, he lived with his openly gay manager , Allan Mindel, and he was over 18 when he starting making movies

Agree the title of this thread is crass to say to least.

r311 I would imagine Britney Spears and Amanda Bynes are two. Judy Garland another. Amanda Bynes got kinda passed around didn't she? I would imagine at some point in your mind you're no longer a victim and pretend to be in control, claim power from the abuse happening to you. That's why a lot of abused kids become very hyper sexual. But it catches up with you and tears you apart.

[R313] Hmmm... Maybe Rodney Harvey did some casting couch stuff for older creepy men and that's what the Open Secret account was referring to. I looked up Harold Pruett, and he had some creepy pictures of him when he was a child being sold on Ebay.

r302 I'm being dismissive (and shitting on) OP, who posted a misleading, inflammatory headline about a very serious topic. And he used the world's biggest star to call attention to the post, which suggests the actor is a victim of sexual abuse despite absolutely no evidence being offered.

I think Muriel should take it down if the headline isn't altered. It suggests a public figure was molested as a young teen. The framing of this is disgusting. Even if it said "Was LD a victim of sexual abuse?" it would still be inappropriate because there is nothing there. This pedophile was around Hollywood for a long time and worked with thousands of people.

R317 DiCaprio’s manager was a convicted child sex offender. The OP posted a video of him being handsy and thirsted over by another person convicted of sexually abusing a minor. It’s not a reach to suggest DiCaprio may have been a victim of sexual abuse or at the very least exploitation like you insist it is. If he was a woman you wouldn’t be so dismissive of the possibility.

I truly believe there are a lot of pedophiles in Hollywood they prefer boys. The other thing boys are much easier for a pedophile mail to get access to.

Male oh dear lmao

FWIW when Open Secret was starting up they were funded by some crackpot far right wing organization the name of which I forget. I mentioned this to them online (not here) and they said they did not care who funded them and they would take what they got. I imagine a company that caters to outing pedos gets a lot of "donations".

Right-wingers love Open Secret because it makes gays look lke molesters while ignoring all the straight creeps who prey on girls and women

R315 i'm still for Dan to get called out on his shit. But i doubt Amanda will say anything.

I agree it's not that far-fetched DiCaprio was an abuse victim (a VERY pretty young boy, who looked a lot younger than his age, surrounded by convicted sex offenders - what could go wrong?). I just feel like some people get a bit too excited over the idea, and it irks me.

And no, I don't mean 'excited' as in sexually aroused, although I'm sure there are some creeps out there jerking off to the thought of a barely pubescent Leo getting 'diddled'. What I mean is that people hide behind 'concern' when they really enjoy obsessing over the idea that a celebrity was victimized; and the more outrageous the suspected crime, the better (see also: #FreeBritney).

Things are being treated as entertainment that really shouldn't be. But then again, I've posted at least 10 replies in this thread myself ...

"It’s not a reach to suggest DiCaprio may have been a victim of sexual abuse". It is a reach. Maybe not a reach for the thought to cross your mind. Gross to put out there for discussion on a gossip board where dozens of people, who have no personal relationship (or insight) with the pedo or LD are invited to weigh in on their thoughts. And they will....It's fantasy conversation (meaning imaginary, not sexy fantasy).

And the topic sentence OP chose is inappropriate because tens of thousands of people search his name every year and this stuff pops up. And most people don't know how to call bullshit on this stuff, they just glance, get the impression (LD is a victim of sexual abuse!) and then move on having absorbed it. I've pushed back on these boards when actors I know are straight (as far as anyone can know another person's sexuality) are discussed as being gay or on gossipy rumors that I dont believe but are fair game. This isn't. I'm just hoping OP will be more considerate and conscientious when branding his conversations. Because every single person who reads this thread has the "LD was a likely victim of abuse" plastered over the conversation for the entire time they are reading it or responding.

Dicaprio strikes me as being too street smart and tough to have been a victim of molestation. If a pedo tried to get him in a compromising position I could totally see the Italian genes kicking in immediately and little Leo pulling a switchblade out of his backpack and telling the pedo he'd cut his fucking balls off if he laid a fucking hand on him.

Ha hanr326, you’re a funny guy. Leo is a pansy , especially when he was a twink . He was very immature for his age

He was street smart and pretty obnoxious. He was wasn't a passive little thing.

He wasn't a passive little thing.

Let’s get that trollish looking Marty Weiss!

I don't think he was molested. If anything, he was a hustler who fucked and sucked willingly for roles. Unlike other child stars who were forced into the spotlight by greedy stage parents. Leo chose acting as a teenager and was ambitious to make in Hollywood. He had a single mom and grew up in lower-class neighborhoods in Los Angeles. So acting was an end goal to make a better life for him and his mom. Even as a young adult, he seemed very selective in the roles he took and avoided cheesy teen fare.

[quote]If a pedo tried to get him in a compromising position I could totally see the Italian genes kicking in immediately and little Leo pulling a switchblade out of his backpack and telling the pedo he'd cut his fucking balls off if he laid a fucking hand on him.

As an Italian-American I hate these stereotypes, but after all look at where I am.

Leo is also half-Russian. So he's got those tough survivorship genes. And he grew up in Central and East Los Angeles.

He's 50% German, 25% Russian and 25% Italian (his mother is half German, half Russian, and his father is of German/Italian heritage).

His parents, while divorced, seemed to have remained friends and were close to him. I doubt they would let him alone long enough for an abuser to do much damage.

Leo does seem to exaggerate how rough his upbringing was.

Apparently his mother was struggling financially, but overall it doesn't seem like his childhood was all that bad. Going by his early interviews where he talked a lot about his parents/upbringing, he was very loved, well-taken care of, and got a lot of creative input from his father and his artsy friends.

He had a pretty decent childhood for a child actor. Most of the 80s child actors had nightmare upbringings.

[quote] "I grew up very poor and I got to see the other side of the spectrum," DiCaprio said when asked about what knowledge a Hollywood actor has about the great divide between the wealthy and poor in America -- the former of which is on full display in the most excessive way possible in "Wolf of Wall Street." DiCaprio has described his old neighborhood like a scene out of "Taxi Driver": "I try to tell my godson, who lives close to that area, what it was like, how there used to be a major prostitution ring on my street corner, crime and violence everywhere," he said. "And I'm not sure he believes me."

[quote] The actor's rough upbringing led directly to his career of choice, in fact: "I got beat up the day I arrived [back in public school after going to a private elementary school] because I had the attitude of everyone living harmoniously with one another," he recalled. "That was the motivational thing that happened to me in my life. I was 15, and I said to my mom, 'I want to be an actor. Please take me to auditions.' Because I had to get out of that public school system."

I think he exaggerates the "rags" part of his life to sell his image. Like many a celebrity does.

Being German, Russian, or Italian doesn't make you have any perticular personality traits.

We know. It's a joke.

R325 represents everything that is wrong with America right now and people's self righteous indignation over the simplest things. That alone is more disgusting and destructive than anything the OP posted. I mean come on? Are you fucking kidding me with that shit?