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Trans Model, Singer, Activist Laith Ashley on Shaking Up Hollywood

When Laith Ashley decided to post some sexy snaps on Instagram from a photoshoot he and a friend conducted in 2014, he had no idea it would lead him to make history on the runways of New York Fashion Week less than two years later.

Since then, the model, actor, singer-songwriter (“Like Me”), and activist has gone on to become the first transgender Pit Crew member on RuPaul’s Drag Race, to appear in British GQ and British Vogue, and to lead major fashion campaigns for Barneys and Diesel (one of the first trans models to do so). Now he’s heading to Hollywood.

Ashley is set to portray Ajax, a gorgeous small-town dancer with a heart of gold, in Desiree Staples’s upcoming indie comedy My Divorce Party. Although he’s already garnered the attention of casting directors after small parts in shows like Pose and Strut, this is Ashley’s first lead role in a feature film.

Because of his hypermasculine, “cis-assumed” appearance, Ashley says that landing cis roles is nothing new to him — and he has difficulty getting trans parts.

“The entertainment industry is trying to be more welcoming of trans people, but there’s still a lot of work to be done,” says Ashley. “There’s training that needs to be done around language; there’s training that needs to be done around trans people in general. I’ve read character breakdowns for TV and film that misgenders the individual… [and] sometimes, not all the time, it does feel like tokenism…. They’re not really trying to understand. They’re just like, Oh, they’re calling for diversity, so if we put a trans person in as this character we’ll get funded.”

Ashley also admits that just the audition process can be dehumanizing for trans folks.

“[The parts are] usually not very well written, and it could be even a traumatic experience for the trans person that’s playing this character,” he says. “I’ve heard some horror stories from some friends about their experiences on set…. It [can] become a very uncomfortable workspace for the trans person.”

Still, Ashley says he is grateful for the opportunities he’s had — and adds that the more trans people who end up on-screen and behind the scenes, the better it will be for all.

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by Anonymousreply 124October 15, 2021 3:45 PM

I have to say that if Laith had a real cock, I would be ALL over that.

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by Anonymousreply 1October 13, 2021 12:13 AM

Full view.

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by Anonymousreply 2October 13, 2021 12:13 AM

Aren’t they “straight” though?

by Anonymousreply 3October 13, 2021 12:13 AM

Bulldaggers who decide on all-out male?

by Anonymousreply 4October 13, 2021 12:15 AM

He is SMOKE AND MIRRORS. Photoshopped to death. And why does he grab his crotch as if he has a cock, when there is no cock. He has always creeped me out. No talent and seeking celebrity based only on his gender cosplay.

by Anonymousreply 5October 13, 2021 12:19 AM

I’d be good with this if they still said “I’m a woman”.

by Anonymousreply 6October 13, 2021 12:20 AM

[quote] Aren’t they “straight” though?

From Wiki:

"Everyone’s transition is their own; my story, my transition, my identity is my own. Everyone’s identity, trans or not, is their own... There are people that went male/female or female/male and people that are in between. I think before I was in the industry and working with the LGBT industry, I was very on the masculine spectrum; Now I feel more fluid."

"Laith Ashley uses he/him pronouns."

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by Anonymousreply 7October 13, 2021 12:20 AM

That face is gorgeous.

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by Anonymousreply 8October 13, 2021 12:22 AM

Don’t they only date women?

by Anonymousreply 9October 13, 2021 12:23 AM

You don't have to call him THEY, R9.

The wiki article clearly states that HIS pronouns are HE/HIM.

by Anonymousreply 10October 13, 2021 12:25 AM

No. I won’t. They or she.

by Anonymousreply 11October 13, 2021 12:27 AM

What he really looks like.

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by Anonymousreply 12October 13, 2021 12:27 AM

It's very dependent on filters and lighting and angles I guess. R8

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by Anonymousreply 13October 13, 2021 12:27 AM

Can’t a woman have a beard?

by Anonymousreply 14October 13, 2021 12:28 AM

Good for her.

by Anonymousreply 15October 13, 2021 12:31 AM

[quote] Can’t a woman have a beard?

Absolutely.

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by Anonymousreply 16October 13, 2021 12:32 AM

What’s wrong with that? ^

by Anonymousreply 17October 13, 2021 12:37 AM

I think R16 is more shocking than this Nazi garbage today, which is sad.

by Anonymousreply 18October 13, 2021 12:37 AM

He is hot. I wonder what his dick looks like.

by Anonymousreply 19October 13, 2021 12:44 AM

Did he have bottom surgery, or is there still a snatch down there?

by Anonymousreply 20October 13, 2021 12:46 AM

Here, R19

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by Anonymousreply 21October 13, 2021 12:46 AM

Looks nothing like a model looks like squatty Italian butcher.

by Anonymousreply 22October 13, 2021 12:47 AM

r12 omg yikes. Yes, Laith is held up as 'see this is a man' by lots of queers on twitter, but that pic shows that even with T injections, she still looks like just a butch chick with a beard. I think its the eyes mostly. Also despite the big muscles, Laith is actually of a very small stature and build. At least someone like Jammidodger (while lanky) is over 6 feet tall so thats a bit less clockable.

by Anonymousreply 23October 13, 2021 12:50 AM

These post op dicks actually look better than I imagined (not great but better than nothing for the recipient I suppose).

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by Anonymousreply 24October 13, 2021 12:52 AM

Just no, R24. You post pics to a Frankenstein horror show and write that. We see you.

by Anonymousreply 25October 13, 2021 12:58 AM

You old Queens might not yet appreciate how advanced photo filters are--they are VERY advanced. R13 is what this person looks like in real life. Yes, filters CAN really be applied even to movies. It's ridiculous, you cannot trust anything.

Having said that, also don't forget that pumping a human body full of male steroids has an effect.

I can't wait to see how they age! Mother nature ALWAYS pays her debts.

by Anonymousreply 26October 13, 2021 1:02 AM

FTMs age horribly. Buck Angel looks 80 years old these days.

by Anonymousreply 27October 13, 2021 1:04 AM

^^^^I just vomited in my mouth

by Anonymousreply 28October 13, 2021 1:05 AM

R27, there's a prominent FTM in my city. She went from a cute lesbian to an old man, she's probably mid-40s but easily looks 10 years older. If that's what the testosterone does to the outside, what does it do to their internal organs?

by Anonymousreply 29October 13, 2021 1:07 AM

Those frankencocks look like year old Weisswurst found in the back of a refrigerator. They look like a rare, white garden mole with his ass cut off by a blunt shovel, then stitched onto a human.

by Anonymousreply 30October 13, 2021 1:11 AM

[quote] Those frankencocks look like year old Weisswurst found in the back of a refrigerator.

I wonder what they smell like?

As good as a "neo vagina?"

by Anonymousreply 31October 13, 2021 1:12 AM

[quote]You don't have to call him THEY, [R9]. The wiki article clearly states that HIS pronouns are HE/HIM.

r10, I'm not r9 but why in the world would I refer to a woman as 'he/him' on a message board? I understand this person probably suffers from a mental condition (gender dysphoria) so if I was to have personal contact with her I would probably use 'he/him' as a courtesy and so as not to exacerbate their discomfort in their own body. But that's a courtesy, it in no way means that this person is actually a man. That's insane.

by Anonymousreply 32October 13, 2021 1:12 AM

Did she continue to date women post-transition, R29?

I live in a mostly liberal, large west coast city with a thriving gay population, and every FTM I know or know of was a former lesbian who never stopped dating women, and no gay man I know has ever expressed interest in FTMs. This 'phenomena' of gay men getting into "boipussy" seems to be limited to online spaces like Twitter, Reddit, and yes, Datalounge. Despite this push from the porn industry (see the '"Gay" porn performers that have become pussy fuckers' thread), it doesn't seem to be catching on in the real world.

by Anonymousreply 33October 13, 2021 1:14 AM

Hey wait, now with the rolling pronouns, you have to GUESS what they/him/it/he/she is at the time you are speaking to it/he/she/they/him. Did I forget anyone?

by Anonymousreply 34October 13, 2021 1:17 AM

[quote] Those frankencocks look like year old Weisswurst found in the back of a refrigerator. They look like a rare, white garden mole with his ass cut off by a blunt shovel, then stitched onto a human.

Not to mention the hair.

Yes hair. Because they use a graft from either the forearm or thigh, these skin fruit roll yos end up covered in arm/leg hair. Even the “glans”. Some FTMs shave it but then just end up with a stubbly stub.

That pic at r12 really outs this chick as female. Tiny head, female facial features, the whole kit n’ kaboodle.

by Anonymousreply 35October 13, 2021 1:19 AM

Social media and digital photography and filters allow many fetishists to create an almost entirely fictitious identity. Or a hybrid one. The internet is FILLED with garbage publications filled with garbage writing and video that is filled with LIES and DELUSIONS. Wishful and fantasy thinking. "You'll never guess what happened when I fell in love with a trans man". "15 Myths About Sex with a Trans Person" It's all garbage and mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 36October 13, 2021 1:22 AM

You can never do anything about their hands, feet or stride, it gives them away.

by Anonymousreply 37October 13, 2021 1:23 AM

Tiny heads for F2Ms.

by Anonymousreply 38October 13, 2021 1:24 AM

That's the giveaway for me, R38.

Females (in general) have smaller heads than men. Guys have large craniums.

It's why the photo at R12 looks so odd.

by Anonymousreply 39October 13, 2021 1:26 AM

This is all delusions, hype, far-fetched word play, and aspirations. "The model, actor, singer-songwriter... and activist has gone on to... appear in British GQ and British Vogue, and to lead major fashion campaigns for Barneys and Diesel (one of the first trans models to do so). Now he’s heading to Hollywood."

This shitty "HOLLYWOOD MOVIE!!!" is being crowdfunded and directed by who, again? Oh, the fabulous Heidi Weitzer!!!! Who?

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by Anonymousreply 40October 13, 2021 1:28 AM

[quote]Mother nature ALWAYS pays her debts.

Wouldn't she collect on them?

by Anonymousreply 41October 13, 2021 1:29 AM

He's not also a UN goodwill ambassador and entrepreneur? An edible floor-wax and particle physicist and life-coach?

by Anonymousreply 42October 13, 2021 1:31 AM

So many haters in this thread jealous that this fine man is hotter and much more sought after than them.

It’s a shame he likes women. I want to fuck him so bad.

by Anonymousreply 43October 13, 2021 1:39 AM

R43 LIES

by Anonymousreply 44October 13, 2021 1:39 AM

Lol R44!

You were supposed to link this along with your post!

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by Anonymousreply 45October 13, 2021 1:49 AM

r33 While I dont know any gay men irl that date ftms, I have seen plenty on grindr looking for them (and these are self describe gay men), even ones who are dating/ married to men. I have also come accross many ftms online and more in the gay spaces irl. I have the opposite experience to you in that the majority of the ftms I know of have sex with men. Certainly all the ones under 30. Most of them ID as bi and lots date other ftms from what I can see.

Im not an expert or claim to know much, but my anecdotal experience is this new wave of ftms, arent the stone cold butches of yesteryear. Many unironcially call themselves femboys and wear dresses - while calling themselves faggots. We live in a bizarre world.

by Anonymousreply 46October 13, 2021 1:50 AM

[quote]Im not an expert or claim to know much, but my anecdotal experience is this new wave of ftms, arent the stone cold butches of yesteryear. Many unironcially call themselves femboys and wear dresses - while calling themselves faggots. We live in a bizarre world.

r46, fucking hell, that last paragraph is so disturbing that I, a naturally curious person, wouldn't even consider taking a peek inside the mind of such a troubled individual. Unfortunately, I think the LGBT++++whatever has become the go-to 'community' for many people with serious psychological issues.

by Anonymousreply 47October 13, 2021 1:59 AM

what you see and what is claimed "on grindr" may have little to do with sex in the real world.

by Anonymousreply 48October 13, 2021 2:02 AM

Laith Ashley is gorgeous--the only FTM I've ever been attracted to.

by Anonymousreply 49October 13, 2021 2:08 AM

[quote]he had no idea it would lead him to make history on the runways of New York Fashion Week less than two years later.

Is strutting down the runway in tacky Marco Marco underwear really something of an historical achievement? Lol

So, here's Laith in action. Would any of you devils like to play a game of spot the T? Give you a hint, there's more than one...

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by Anonymousreply 50October 13, 2021 2:21 AM

Smoke and mirrors and photoshopped to death, r5, and you can still see the scar marks from where her breasts were removed.

Interesting admission, r7, that even Laith is aware that she's not actually a man.

by Anonymousreply 51October 13, 2021 2:36 AM

R50, I could tell immediately that they're all trans. Tiny, tightly-packed "men" with no dick and often womanly hips, huge uber-drag-queen "women", and they all have the stereotypical "hot" trans look.

Especially when they're all put together they look completely deformed, but of course only the ones with a "successful" transition would be interviewed.

by Anonymousreply 52October 13, 2021 2:41 AM

Lol r43. Do you want to fuck him in his pussy?

by Anonymousreply 53October 13, 2021 2:42 AM

R46, don't confuse the messy desires of the fringe of the fringe that you come across in the darkest corners of the internet with what's happening in real life. But, yes, there are a lot of very messed-up young women who are transitioning, but still also stone-cold butches. There are going to be a lot of fucked up people traumatised at what they've done to themselves in a few years.

by Anonymousreply 54October 13, 2021 2:48 AM

What kind of name is “Laith”?

by Anonymousreply 55October 13, 2021 2:48 AM

R95 Laith is Arabic for lion.

by Anonymousreply 56October 13, 2021 2:50 AM

Exactly r12. At the link you can see a pic of Laith pre-transition. In the more realistic pic at r12 of Laith today she looks a lot more like in her pre-transition pic than in all the staged smoke-and-mirrors photoshopped pics.

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by Anonymousreply 57October 13, 2021 2:53 AM

Ok, wrrrrrowwwww!!! I’m a lion!

by Anonymousreply 58October 13, 2021 2:55 AM

Oh, gurl.

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by Anonymousreply 59October 13, 2021 2:56 AM

I see a sad desperation in his eyes in a lot of his pics.

At least he didn't cover himself in tattoos as many transmen do because they think it's manly.

by Anonymousreply 60October 13, 2021 3:03 AM

This one especially, r60, although it might be an attempt to look "deep". But, Laith does not look happy.

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by Anonymousreply 61October 13, 2021 3:05 AM

Shorty.

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by Anonymousreply 62October 13, 2021 3:05 AM

Laith is hot.

I’m also very attracted to Jaimie Wilson.

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by Anonymousreply 63October 13, 2021 3:13 AM

Those trannys cannot do a proper catwalk, they look like they stomping lily pad to lily pad.

by Anonymousreply 64October 13, 2021 3:15 AM

While stills can be heavily filtered and photoshopped that fashion show video isn’t - he may be petite for a guy, but that’s a top one percent transition in terms of a convincing and attractive outcome.

by Anonymousreply 65October 13, 2021 3:20 AM

^^ not to say video can’t be heavily manipulated, but that particular footage is not, so it’s a pretty accurate representation of how he actually looks.

by Anonymousreply 66October 13, 2021 3:22 AM

Hot FTM

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by Anonymousreply 67October 13, 2021 3:24 AM

He looks great and kind in this interview. I don't get the hate.

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by Anonymousreply 68October 13, 2021 3:30 AM

The female is very obvious in Jaimie, r63.

by Anonymousreply 69October 13, 2021 3:37 AM

R65, have you seen the whole video? Watch the grand finale at the end, where they all come out. It looks like a freak show. Convincing transitions, those are not. And I say freak show, because those people have turned themselves into freaks with the stuff they've done to their bodies.

by Anonymousreply 70October 13, 2021 3:39 AM

No one's hating, r68, we're just being honest. Of course he looks "great". That's great plastic surgery, steroids, filters and lighting. Look at the pic at r12 and the the video of the fashion show for a more honest glimpse at the reality of transition.

Laith has been knocking around for years, but - despite the effusive platitudes in the article at the OP - has never managed to hit the big time that we keep being promised he's going to hit. I wonder why that is.

by Anonymousreply 71October 13, 2021 3:45 AM

r48 r54 Hate to break it to you, but grindr is very mainstream. Hardly the 'darkest corners' of the internet. Its how the majority of gay men met other gay men (at least where I live).

by Anonymousreply 72October 13, 2021 3:47 AM

Why doesn’t he want to be known as a man? Isn’t that the goal? To pass as a man?

by Anonymousreply 73October 13, 2021 3:53 AM

r73 you are living in the 90's. 'Passing' is cisnormative now - very little ftms seem to have 'dysphoria' around their pussies when having sex with men is all ill say. They arent doing anal.....

by Anonymousreply 74October 13, 2021 3:57 AM

[quote]Did he have bottom surgery

The best they can do is strip several inches of skin off the thigh or forearm and fashion it into a crude skin burrito. It isn't magic. This person will never be male — only a mutilated woman who, with the right light, filters, and direction of talented stylists and photographers, might look like a vague facsimile of a man.

by Anonymousreply 75October 13, 2021 4:03 AM

R70 - the only transition I was discussing as visually successful was Laith’s - by qualifying it as “a top one percent” I was stating that he looks better than most other transsexuals, including the rest of the trans in that fashion show. Your stated disapproval of transsexuals is clouding your reading comprehension. I’m pretty neutral about transsexuals - it’s their body & their life to live - but not all of them look “unfortunate” even if most do.

by Anonymousreply 76October 13, 2021 4:05 AM

r68, not participating in someone else's delusional thinking is not hate. Would you consider it hateful to tell an anorexic (another form of dysphoria) person that they're not actually fat? Those with gender dysphoria should be treated with care but lying to someone is not a kindness, the truth will out. We are doing such a disservice to these people by pretending that their delusional thinking is reality.

by Anonymousreply 77October 13, 2021 4:13 AM

She has been doing an entire series of videos on FtM surgeries. It really is appalling that in the midst of a pandemic they continue to spend literally hundreds of thousands of dollars and other medical/surgical resources on this elective cosmetic surgery. And there are ALWAYS complications requiring more surgeries.

I have found these videos educational and sadly and guiltily entertaining.

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by Anonymousreply 78October 13, 2021 8:01 AM

Laith does seem sweet and harmless but I still find him creepy in the thirstiness to be a celebrity based on identity cosplay, PR hyperbole, but no identifiable talent or utility factor. When I was a young adult in NY and Paris we always rolled our eyes at every deluded "model / dancer / writer / activist". Often none of these were really true. Every year you'd meet several bizarre creatures who had walked once or twice on Gaultier's freak show runway, after which they were forever "models". That sort of hype over substance. Ed White taught us the expression "a lot of wash but not much hangout" - the scenario of someone who tells tall tales but there is scant public evidence they are true. Now thanks to freeish very precise digital representation, Internet and social media, a generation has produced thousands of celebrities in each country who are all wash and no hangout. Maybe hundreds of thousands of non celebrities, too, busy manufacturing and cosplaying an identity that isn't reality based. Unless the virtual is "reality". Eventually it will be, I suppose.

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by Anonymousreply 79October 13, 2021 8:18 AM

I wanted to fuck the tranny in the BW photos but then the color photos showed up where he looks like an inscect.

by Anonymousreply 80October 13, 2021 8:22 AM

There are hotter trans men out there.

by Anonymousreply 81October 13, 2021 8:23 AM

I know two FTM and they are gay. I know a MTF and they are a lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 82October 13, 2021 8:48 AM

Do their cocks shoot cum?

by Anonymousreply 83October 13, 2021 8:52 AM

R46 I really have compassion for the people who feel they are in the wrong body, but hard to understand why would a girl want to put her body to so much molestation and stress, just to, after all the trauma, have sex with guys and wear dresses.

by Anonymousreply 84October 13, 2021 8:57 AM

Remember when gay mens magazines and media like the Advocate used to be for and about gay men? No wonder their circulations have gone to pot. Few gay men are remotely interested in trans celebs, trans issues, or trans generally. Yet they keep pushing it day after day as if we give a flying fuck. Trans activists are vocal enough. They certainly don't need our help.

by Anonymousreply 85October 13, 2021 9:01 AM

Oh yes, Rose. Their Weisswursts have more German engineering than Lebensborn and BMW combined.

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by Anonymousreply 86October 13, 2021 9:05 AM

The first person who does a (online?) magazine for masculine gay men that leaves drag queens and trans for others is going to clean up. There's a HUGE HUGE HUGE gap in the market just waiting to be filled.

by Anonymousreply 87October 13, 2021 9:05 AM

R85 none of that gay media exists anymore. It's all QUEER now.

by Anonymousreply 88October 13, 2021 9:06 AM

You mean prissy.

by Anonymousreply 89October 13, 2021 9:07 AM

Lol, r76, calling them transsexuals is one of the ultimate sins, according to the trans.

by Anonymousreply 90October 13, 2021 9:14 AM

In other words, they're all heterosexual, r82.

by Anonymousreply 91October 13, 2021 9:19 AM

You wouldn't be allowed to do a magazine aimed at gay men, r87. Everything has to be "inclusive", otherwise the transtapo will get you.

I'm pretty sure that the corporate boards that run all these media companies think "we have to go LGBTQ+ now because that's what all the kids want and what's going to be big in the future", without realising that's not what anyone wants. I'd love them to do a trans only magazine and see how many hits that gets them. They think that by adding the TQ they're expanding their audience, but they're actually shrinking it and creating problems for what they are able to say.

by Anonymousreply 92October 13, 2021 9:26 AM

Frankencocks are all appearance but have no function other than pissing. You can't construct a prostate and testes from ovaries! Live your life but don't expect gay men to have sex with you as validation.

by Anonymousreply 93October 13, 2021 9:27 AM

Is he shaking up Hollywood with his clitoris, uterus, or vulva?

by Anonymousreply 94October 13, 2021 9:30 AM

Hollywood's reaction:

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by Anonymousreply 95October 13, 2021 10:06 AM

R33, You're right, it doesn't seem to be catching on in the real world and not even for Laith, who does look more convincing than most other FTMs. See what he had to say about gay men who were able to clock him quite easily:

“I haven’t personally experienced physical violence,” he said to Attitude editor-in-chief Cliff Joannou, “but I have been disrespected and mis-gendered by people both within and outside our community.

“There was one situation about 18 months ago in West Hollywood where a guy was just really disrespectful. I was with a friend, waiting for an Uber and I looked over and noticed a group of three gay men talking and they kept whispering to each other, looking over at me.

One of the guys gets up and I notice him coming towards me and he says, ‘Oh, so those guys over there said that you’re a woman. Is that true?’

“I thought: ‘What did you say to me?’ And he was like, ‘Oh, it is true. Yeah, that’s a woman.'”

He added: “I was enraged but I knew I couldn’t react."

by Anonymousreply 96October 13, 2021 1:54 PM

I just saw this video clip of Laith having a frank discussion with his mother, now I know why they turned out the way they did. The mother is pure evil. Who the fuck takes their kid to church and lets them be abused like that?! It seems that Laith wanted to be accepted as a tomboy/gender non-conforming gay girl but the mother wouldn't allow it, so he decided it would be better to become a man, and guess what? The mother STILL doesn't accept him. Just look at the pain and suffering in Laith eyes, it's beyond tragic. When Laith tries to tell the mother all the horrible things she has said to him, the mother responds with "I don't say that! My Bible say that." Really immature, and a complete cop-out. This woman doesn't want to take any responsibility for the damage and harm she has done to her child.

I feel bad for Laith, what he said at the end was really painful to hear. To think he could've grown up as a healthy butch gay woman, if only he had had the support he so desperately needed.

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by Anonymousreply 97October 13, 2021 2:35 PM

R96 This is a prime example of what is wrong with trans activists, you cant speak the truth without being called a bigot or transphobic.

by Anonymousreply 98October 13, 2021 2:45 PM

Precisely r96. When you see even "successful" trans like Laith in real life it is very obvious that they are not a man (or woman). And the gays can see through it immediately. I'm not sure why Laith is so upset that gay men who are only interested in other men would comment on him really being a woman. Not everyone buys into your delusion. Not believing your delusion is not transphobia. Perhaps the reason you are upset is because of your own unrealistic notions that people are suddenly going to suspend their sense of reality and deny the things that are important to them.

I also don't get why he was felt the need to point out that these were three gay men instead of just men. Yet more smearing of gay people by the trans, who deep down really hate us?

by Anonymousreply 99October 13, 2021 3:19 PM

That's what I always say r97, that behind the story of every trans person there is a story of someone who was fucked up in some way, especially over their sexuality or being made to feel that they didn't fulfil the stereotypical standards of being a man or a woman.

This is why they need psychological treatment first, to try to deal with those issues and that hurt so they can live as who they really are, before diving straight into hormones and surgery or, even worse, puberty blockers for children. That hurt is never going to go away like this and they will then have the added problems of never being able to become the idealised version of a man or woman that they have in their head.

by Anonymousreply 100October 13, 2021 3:25 PM

[quote]One of the guys gets up and I notice him coming towards me and he says, ‘Oh, so those guys over there said that you’re a woman. Is that true?’ “I thought: ‘What did you say to me?’ And he was like, ‘Oh, it is true. Yeah, that’s a woman.'”

R96 contains a lesson for all of you who may not yet have done across an FTM. Pumping a human body full of testosterone can buff it up, but a female cam virtually never enter the general male vocal range. The voice will ALWAYS be off, and frankly it's a little jarring to hear the first time--it's clearly not right. Uncanny valley stuff.

by Anonymousreply 101October 14, 2021 5:08 AM

They all sound like Ben Shapiro.

by Anonymousreply 102October 14, 2021 8:49 AM

R101

To be fair, there are gay men who sound like women as well. So not sure how some rando can just make that assumption of a stranger.

by Anonymousreply 103October 14, 2021 9:57 AM

So....a eunuch?

by Anonymousreply 104October 14, 2021 10:39 AM

R8, Look how the shadows are made to seem as there's an Adam's Apple.

by Anonymousreply 105October 14, 2021 10:41 AM

It's funny how every trans person who doesn't do anything for anyone but themselves is considered an activist.

by Anonymousreply 106October 14, 2021 11:33 AM

R106 - So true.

by Anonymousreply 107October 14, 2021 11:46 AM

[quote] The voice will ALWAYS be off, and frankly it's a little jarring to hear the first time--it's clearly not right. Uncanny valley stuff.

Not true at all. Many FTM sound like men, it depends on the body and testosterone. I've met a couple who sound like that. That transman on 911 lonestar sound like a typical black guy, no fucking way you can tell that guy is trans.

by Anonymousreply 108October 14, 2021 8:11 PM

tralalala tralala tralala R108

by Anonymousreply 109October 14, 2021 8:13 PM

The FtM and MtF all have the same trans voice. They all sound like Caitlyn.

by Anonymousreply 110October 15, 2021 3:12 AM

The haters are jealous. You can see it clearly through each of their nasty attitude posts.

by Anonymousreply 111October 15, 2021 8:42 AM

Activist?

Where are the credentials?

by Anonymousreply 112October 15, 2021 12:53 PM

R108 is correct

by Anonymousreply 113October 15, 2021 1:20 PM

Most people would rather hang out with Laith than you boring, judgmental, nasty attitude prudes. Fuck y’all.

by Anonymousreply 114October 15, 2021 1:36 PM

Facts ⬆️

by Anonymousreply 115October 15, 2021 1:46 PM

Who keeps trying to keep this chick relevant ?

by Anonymousreply 116October 15, 2021 1:47 PM

Does they have “an” OnlyFans?

by Anonymousreply 117October 15, 2021 1:53 PM

Who are "most people", r114. Can't be that many people in Hollywood or the fashion industry because, try as Laith might, she still can't make her big breakthrough.

by Anonymousreply 118October 15, 2021 2:33 PM

Laith has wonky smushed up nips like softened Hershey’s kisses.

by Anonymousreply 119October 15, 2021 2:41 PM

When does a "diversity" or "equal opportunity" model or actor cross over into simply a model or actor. Winnie Harlow is both, in my opinion, meaning she exists well enough in each circle. Héla, Laith exists in the overlapping circles of attention whore and diversity model. Laith is attractive but will never edge past 50% currency in "diversity model" category. Will never enter "model" category. This is what sticks in people's craw. He's attractive, he's upbeat, he's likable, but the all the assumed identities are too tralalala. Is he also a UN Goodwill Ambassador? A husband and father and poet and beekeeper, salad dressing and travel writer and podcaster and jewelry designer?

by Anonymousreply 120October 15, 2021 2:43 PM

To bad she doesn't have a big juicy dick. 😖

by Anonymousreply 121October 15, 2021 2:54 PM

Love Laith

by Anonymousreply 122October 15, 2021 3:01 PM

Winnie Harlow became known because she was on America's Next Top Model. She's a diversity model but also a real model in that she has a good body and can wear clothes in various situations and make them look good. Laith can't do that, Laith's body is never going to make clothes look good, men are never going to look at Laith and think "wow, I love that guy's look, I think I want to buy those clothes too".

by Anonymousreply 123October 15, 2021 3:02 PM

I thought Gigi Gorgeous had had face softening done. She is so manly without filters. Very sharp jaw. I guess there is only so much that surgery can do.

by Anonymousreply 124October 15, 2021 3:45 PM
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