Trans Model, Singer, Activist Laith Ashley on Shaking Up Hollywood

I have to say that if Laith had a real cock, I would be ALL over that.

Full view.

Aren’t they “straight” though?

Bulldaggers who decide on all-out male?

He is SMOKE AND MIRRORS. Photoshopped to death. And why does he grab his crotch as if he has a cock, when there is no cock. He has always creeped me out. No talent and seeking celebrity based only on his gender cosplay.

I’d be good with this if they still said “I’m a woman”.

[quote] Aren’t they “straight” though?

From Wiki:

"Everyone’s transition is their own; my story, my transition, my identity is my own. Everyone’s identity, trans or not, is their own... There are people that went male/female or female/male and people that are in between. I think before I was in the industry and working with the LGBT industry, I was very on the masculine spectrum; Now I feel more fluid."

"Laith Ashley uses he/him pronouns."

That face is gorgeous.

Don’t they only date women?

You don't have to call him THEY, R9.

The wiki article clearly states that HIS pronouns are HE/HIM.

No. I won’t. They or she.

What he really looks like.

It's very dependent on filters and lighting and angles I guess. R8

Can’t a woman have a beard?

Good for her.

[quote] Can’t a woman have a beard?

Absolutely.

What’s wrong with that? ^

I think R16 is more shocking than this Nazi garbage today, which is sad.

He is hot. I wonder what his dick looks like.

Did he have bottom surgery, or is there still a snatch down there?

Here, R19

Looks nothing like a model looks like squatty Italian butcher.

r12 omg yikes. Yes, Laith is held up as 'see this is a man' by lots of queers on twitter, but that pic shows that even with T injections, she still looks like just a butch chick with a beard. I think its the eyes mostly. Also despite the big muscles, Laith is actually of a very small stature and build. At least someone like Jammidodger (while lanky) is over 6 feet tall so thats a bit less clockable.

These post op dicks actually look better than I imagined (not great but better than nothing for the recipient I suppose).

Just no, R24. You post pics to a Frankenstein horror show and write that. We see you.

You old Queens might not yet appreciate how advanced photo filters are--they are VERY advanced. R13 is what this person looks like in real life. Yes, filters CAN really be applied even to movies. It's ridiculous, you cannot trust anything.

Having said that, also don't forget that pumping a human body full of male steroids has an effect.

I can't wait to see how they age! Mother nature ALWAYS pays her debts.

FTMs age horribly. Buck Angel looks 80 years old these days.

^^^^I just vomited in my mouth

R27, there's a prominent FTM in my city. She went from a cute lesbian to an old man, she's probably mid-40s but easily looks 10 years older. If that's what the testosterone does to the outside, what does it do to their internal organs?

Those frankencocks look like year old Weisswurst found in the back of a refrigerator. They look like a rare, white garden mole with his ass cut off by a blunt shovel, then stitched onto a human.

[quote] Those frankencocks look like year old Weisswurst found in the back of a refrigerator.

I wonder what they smell like?

As good as a "neo vagina?"

[quote]You don't have to call him THEY, [R9]. The wiki article clearly states that HIS pronouns are HE/HIM.

r10, I'm not r9 but why in the world would I refer to a woman as 'he/him' on a message board? I understand this person probably suffers from a mental condition (gender dysphoria) so if I was to have personal contact with her I would probably use 'he/him' as a courtesy and so as not to exacerbate their discomfort in their own body. But that's a courtesy, it in no way means that this person is actually a man. That's insane.

Did she continue to date women post-transition, R29?

I live in a mostly liberal, large west coast city with a thriving gay population, and every FTM I know or know of was a former lesbian who never stopped dating women, and no gay man I know has ever expressed interest in FTMs. This 'phenomena' of gay men getting into "boipussy" seems to be limited to online spaces like Twitter, Reddit, and yes, Datalounge. Despite this push from the porn industry (see the '"Gay" porn performers that have become pussy fuckers' thread), it doesn't seem to be catching on in the real world.

Hey wait, now with the rolling pronouns, you have to GUESS what they/him/it/he/she is at the time you are speaking to it/he/she/they/him. Did I forget anyone?

[quote] Those frankencocks look like year old Weisswurst found in the back of a refrigerator. They look like a rare, white garden mole with his ass cut off by a blunt shovel, then stitched onto a human.

Not to mention the hair.

Yes hair. Because they use a graft from either the forearm or thigh, these skin fruit roll yos end up covered in arm/leg hair. Even the “glans”. Some FTMs shave it but then just end up with a stubbly stub.

That pic at r12 really outs this chick as female. Tiny head, female facial features, the whole kit n’ kaboodle.

Social media and digital photography and filters allow many fetishists to create an almost entirely fictitious identity. Or a hybrid one. The internet is FILLED with garbage publications filled with garbage writing and video that is filled with LIES and DELUSIONS. Wishful and fantasy thinking. "You'll never guess what happened when I fell in love with a trans man". "15 Myths About Sex with a Trans Person" It's all garbage and mental illness.

You can never do anything about their hands, feet or stride, it gives them away.

Tiny heads for F2Ms.

That's the giveaway for me, R38.

Females (in general) have smaller heads than men. Guys have large craniums.

It's why the photo at R12 looks so odd.

This is all delusions, hype, far-fetched word play, and aspirations. "The model, actor, singer-songwriter... and activist has gone on to... appear in British GQ and British Vogue, and to lead major fashion campaigns for Barneys and Diesel (one of the first trans models to do so). Now he’s heading to Hollywood."

This shitty "HOLLYWOOD MOVIE!!!" is being crowdfunded and directed by who, again? Oh, the fabulous Heidi Weitzer!!!! Who?

[quote]Mother nature ALWAYS pays her debts.

Wouldn't she collect on them?

He's not also a UN goodwill ambassador and entrepreneur? An edible floor-wax and particle physicist and life-coach?

So many haters in this thread jealous that this fine man is hotter and much more sought after than them.

It’s a shame he likes women. I want to fuck him so bad.

R43 LIES

Lol R44!

You were supposed to link this along with your post!

r33 While I dont know any gay men irl that date ftms, I have seen plenty on grindr looking for them (and these are self describe gay men), even ones who are dating/ married to men. I have also come accross many ftms online and more in the gay spaces irl. I have the opposite experience to you in that the majority of the ftms I know of have sex with men. Certainly all the ones under 30. Most of them ID as bi and lots date other ftms from what I can see.

Im not an expert or claim to know much, but my anecdotal experience is this new wave of ftms, arent the stone cold butches of yesteryear. Many unironcially call themselves femboys and wear dresses - while calling themselves faggots. We live in a bizarre world.

[quote]Im not an expert or claim to know much, but my anecdotal experience is this new wave of ftms, arent the stone cold butches of yesteryear. Many unironcially call themselves femboys and wear dresses - while calling themselves faggots. We live in a bizarre world.

r46, fucking hell, that last paragraph is so disturbing that I, a naturally curious person, wouldn't even consider taking a peek inside the mind of such a troubled individual. Unfortunately, I think the LGBT++++whatever has become the go-to 'community' for many people with serious psychological issues.

what you see and what is claimed "on grindr" may have little to do with sex in the real world.

Laith Ashley is gorgeous--the only FTM I've ever been attracted to.

[quote]he had no idea it would lead him to make history on the runways of New York Fashion Week less than two years later.

Is strutting down the runway in tacky Marco Marco underwear really something of an historical achievement? Lol

So, here's Laith in action. Would any of you devils like to play a game of spot the T? Give you a hint, there's more than one...

Smoke and mirrors and photoshopped to death, r5, and you can still see the scar marks from where her breasts were removed.

Interesting admission, r7, that even Laith is aware that she's not actually a man.

R50, I could tell immediately that they're all trans. Tiny, tightly-packed "men" with no dick and often womanly hips, huge uber-drag-queen "women", and they all have the stereotypical "hot" trans look.

Especially when they're all put together they look completely deformed, but of course only the ones with a "successful" transition would be interviewed.

Lol r43. Do you want to fuck him in his pussy?

R46, don't confuse the messy desires of the fringe of the fringe that you come across in the darkest corners of the internet with what's happening in real life. But, yes, there are a lot of very messed-up young women who are transitioning, but still also stone-cold butches. There are going to be a lot of fucked up people traumatised at what they've done to themselves in a few years.

What kind of name is “Laith”?

R95 Laith is Arabic for lion.

Exactly r12. At the link you can see a pic of Laith pre-transition. In the more realistic pic at r12 of Laith today she looks a lot more like in her pre-transition pic than in all the staged smoke-and-mirrors photoshopped pics.

Ok, wrrrrrowwwww!!! I’m a lion!

Oh, gurl.

I see a sad desperation in his eyes in a lot of his pics.

At least he didn't cover himself in tattoos as many transmen do because they think it's manly.

This one especially, r60, although it might be an attempt to look "deep". But, Laith does not look happy.

Shorty.

Laith is hot.

I’m also very attracted to Jaimie Wilson.

Those trannys cannot do a proper catwalk, they look like they stomping lily pad to lily pad.

While stills can be heavily filtered and photoshopped that fashion show video isn’t - he may be petite for a guy, but that’s a top one percent transition in terms of a convincing and attractive outcome.

^^ not to say video can’t be heavily manipulated, but that particular footage is not, so it’s a pretty accurate representation of how he actually looks.

Hot FTM

He looks great and kind in this interview. I don't get the hate.

The female is very obvious in Jaimie, r63.

R65, have you seen the whole video? Watch the grand finale at the end, where they all come out. It looks like a freak show. Convincing transitions, those are not. And I say freak show, because those people have turned themselves into freaks with the stuff they've done to their bodies.

No one's hating, r68, we're just being honest. Of course he looks "great". That's great plastic surgery, steroids, filters and lighting. Look at the pic at r12 and the the video of the fashion show for a more honest glimpse at the reality of transition.

Laith has been knocking around for years, but - despite the effusive platitudes in the article at the OP - has never managed to hit the big time that we keep being promised he's going to hit. I wonder why that is.

r48 r54 Hate to break it to you, but grindr is very mainstream. Hardly the 'darkest corners' of the internet. Its how the majority of gay men met other gay men (at least where I live).

Why doesn’t he want to be known as a man? Isn’t that the goal? To pass as a man?

r73 you are living in the 90's. 'Passing' is cisnormative now - very little ftms seem to have 'dysphoria' around their pussies when having sex with men is all ill say. They arent doing anal.....

[quote]Did he have bottom surgery

The best they can do is strip several inches of skin off the thigh or forearm and fashion it into a crude skin burrito. It isn't magic. This person will never be male — only a mutilated woman who, with the right light, filters, and direction of talented stylists and photographers, might look like a vague facsimile of a man.

R70 - the only transition I was discussing as visually successful was Laith’s - by qualifying it as “a top one percent” I was stating that he looks better than most other transsexuals, including the rest of the trans in that fashion show. Your stated disapproval of transsexuals is clouding your reading comprehension. I’m pretty neutral about transsexuals - it’s their body & their life to live - but not all of them look “unfortunate” even if most do.

r68, not participating in someone else's delusional thinking is not hate. Would you consider it hateful to tell an anorexic (another form of dysphoria) person that they're not actually fat? Those with gender dysphoria should be treated with care but lying to someone is not a kindness, the truth will out. We are doing such a disservice to these people by pretending that their delusional thinking is reality.

She has been doing an entire series of videos on FtM surgeries. It really is appalling that in the midst of a pandemic they continue to spend literally hundreds of thousands of dollars and other medical/surgical resources on this elective cosmetic surgery. And there are ALWAYS complications requiring more surgeries.

I have found these videos educational and sadly and guiltily entertaining.

Laith does seem sweet and harmless but I still find him creepy in the thirstiness to be a celebrity based on identity cosplay, PR hyperbole, but no identifiable talent or utility factor. When I was a young adult in NY and Paris we always rolled our eyes at every deluded "model / dancer / writer / activist". Often none of these were really true. Every year you'd meet several bizarre creatures who had walked once or twice on Gaultier's freak show runway, after which they were forever "models". That sort of hype over substance. Ed White taught us the expression "a lot of wash but not much hangout" - the scenario of someone who tells tall tales but there is scant public evidence they are true. Now thanks to freeish very precise digital representation, Internet and social media, a generation has produced thousands of celebrities in each country who are all wash and no hangout. Maybe hundreds of thousands of non celebrities, too, busy manufacturing and cosplaying an identity that isn't reality based. Unless the virtual is "reality". Eventually it will be, I suppose.

I wanted to fuck the tranny in the BW photos but then the color photos showed up where he looks like an inscect.

There are hotter trans men out there.

I know two FTM and they are gay. I know a MTF and they are a lesbian.

Do their cocks shoot cum?

R46 I really have compassion for the people who feel they are in the wrong body, but hard to understand why would a girl want to put her body to so much molestation and stress, just to, after all the trauma, have sex with guys and wear dresses.

Remember when gay mens magazines and media like the Advocate used to be for and about gay men? No wonder their circulations have gone to pot. Few gay men are remotely interested in trans celebs, trans issues, or trans generally. Yet they keep pushing it day after day as if we give a flying fuck. Trans activists are vocal enough. They certainly don't need our help.

Oh yes, Rose. Their Weisswursts have more German engineering than Lebensborn and BMW combined.

The first person who does a (online?) magazine for masculine gay men that leaves drag queens and trans for others is going to clean up. There's a HUGE HUGE HUGE gap in the market just waiting to be filled.

R85 none of that gay media exists anymore. It's all QUEER now.

You mean prissy.

Lol, r76, calling them transsexuals is one of the ultimate sins, according to the trans.

In other words, they're all heterosexual, r82.

You wouldn't be allowed to do a magazine aimed at gay men, r87. Everything has to be "inclusive", otherwise the transtapo will get you.

I'm pretty sure that the corporate boards that run all these media companies think "we have to go LGBTQ+ now because that's what all the kids want and what's going to be big in the future", without realising that's not what anyone wants. I'd love them to do a trans only magazine and see how many hits that gets them. They think that by adding the TQ they're expanding their audience, but they're actually shrinking it and creating problems for what they are able to say.

Frankencocks are all appearance but have no function other than pissing. You can't construct a prostate and testes from ovaries! Live your life but don't expect gay men to have sex with you as validation.

Is he shaking up Hollywood with his clitoris, uterus, or vulva?

Hollywood's reaction:

R33, You're right, it doesn't seem to be catching on in the real world and not even for Laith, who does look more convincing than most other FTMs. See what he had to say about gay men who were able to clock him quite easily:

“I haven’t personally experienced physical violence,” he said to Attitude editor-in-chief Cliff Joannou, “but I have been disrespected and mis-gendered by people both within and outside our community.

“There was one situation about 18 months ago in West Hollywood where a guy was just really disrespectful. I was with a friend, waiting for an Uber and I looked over and noticed a group of three gay men talking and they kept whispering to each other, looking over at me.

One of the guys gets up and I notice him coming towards me and he says, ‘Oh, so those guys over there said that you’re a woman. Is that true?’

“I thought: ‘What did you say to me?’ And he was like, ‘Oh, it is true. Yeah, that’s a woman.'”

He added: “I was enraged but I knew I couldn’t react."

I just saw this video clip of Laith having a frank discussion with his mother, now I know why they turned out the way they did. The mother is pure evil. Who the fuck takes their kid to church and lets them be abused like that?! It seems that Laith wanted to be accepted as a tomboy/gender non-conforming gay girl but the mother wouldn't allow it, so he decided it would be better to become a man, and guess what? The mother STILL doesn't accept him. Just look at the pain and suffering in Laith eyes, it's beyond tragic. When Laith tries to tell the mother all the horrible things she has said to him, the mother responds with "I don't say that! My Bible say that." Really immature, and a complete cop-out. This woman doesn't want to take any responsibility for the damage and harm she has done to her child.

I feel bad for Laith, what he said at the end was really painful to hear. To think he could've grown up as a healthy butch gay woman, if only he had had the support he so desperately needed.

R96 This is a prime example of what is wrong with trans activists, you cant speak the truth without being called a bigot or transphobic.

Precisely r96. When you see even "successful" trans like Laith in real life it is very obvious that they are not a man (or woman). And the gays can see through it immediately. I'm not sure why Laith is so upset that gay men who are only interested in other men would comment on him really being a woman. Not everyone buys into your delusion. Not believing your delusion is not transphobia. Perhaps the reason you are upset is because of your own unrealistic notions that people are suddenly going to suspend their sense of reality and deny the things that are important to them.

I also don't get why he was felt the need to point out that these were three gay men instead of just men. Yet more smearing of gay people by the trans, who deep down really hate us?

That's what I always say r97, that behind the story of every trans person there is a story of someone who was fucked up in some way, especially over their sexuality or being made to feel that they didn't fulfil the stereotypical standards of being a man or a woman.

This is why they need psychological treatment first, to try to deal with those issues and that hurt so they can live as who they really are, before diving straight into hormones and surgery or, even worse, puberty blockers for children. That hurt is never going to go away like this and they will then have the added problems of never being able to become the idealised version of a man or woman that they have in their head.

[quote]One of the guys gets up and I notice him coming towards me and he says, ‘Oh, so those guys over there said that you’re a woman. Is that true?’ “I thought: ‘What did you say to me?’ And he was like, ‘Oh, it is true. Yeah, that’s a woman.'”

R96 contains a lesson for all of you who may not yet have done across an FTM. Pumping a human body full of testosterone can buff it up, but a female cam virtually never enter the general male vocal range. The voice will ALWAYS be off, and frankly it's a little jarring to hear the first time--it's clearly not right. Uncanny valley stuff.

They all sound like Ben Shapiro.

R101

To be fair, there are gay men who sound like women as well. So not sure how some rando can just make that assumption of a stranger.

So....a eunuch?

R8, Look how the shadows are made to seem as there's an Adam's Apple.

It's funny how every trans person who doesn't do anything for anyone but themselves is considered an activist.

R106 - So true.

[quote] The voice will ALWAYS be off, and frankly it's a little jarring to hear the first time--it's clearly not right. Uncanny valley stuff.

Not true at all. Many FTM sound like men, it depends on the body and testosterone. I've met a couple who sound like that. That transman on 911 lonestar sound like a typical black guy, no fucking way you can tell that guy is trans.

tralalala tralala tralala R108

The FtM and MtF all have the same trans voice. They all sound like Caitlyn.

The haters are jealous. You can see it clearly through each of their nasty attitude posts.

Activist?

Where are the credentials?

R108 is correct

Most people would rather hang out with Laith than you boring, judgmental, nasty attitude prudes. Fuck y’all.

Facts ⬆️

Who keeps trying to keep this chick relevant ?

Does they have “an” OnlyFans?

Who are "most people", r114. Can't be that many people in Hollywood or the fashion industry because, try as Laith might, she still can't make her big breakthrough.

Laith has wonky smushed up nips like softened Hershey’s kisses.

When does a "diversity" or "equal opportunity" model or actor cross over into simply a model or actor. Winnie Harlow is both, in my opinion, meaning she exists well enough in each circle. Héla, Laith exists in the overlapping circles of attention whore and diversity model. Laith is attractive but will never edge past 50% currency in "diversity model" category. Will never enter "model" category. This is what sticks in people's craw. He's attractive, he's upbeat, he's likable, but the all the assumed identities are too tralalala. Is he also a UN Goodwill Ambassador? A husband and father and poet and beekeeper, salad dressing and travel writer and podcaster and jewelry designer?

To bad she doesn't have a big juicy dick. 😖

Love Laith

Winnie Harlow became known because she was on America's Next Top Model. She's a diversity model but also a real model in that she has a good body and can wear clothes in various situations and make them look good. Laith can't do that, Laith's body is never going to make clothes look good, men are never going to look at Laith and think "wow, I love that guy's look, I think I want to buy those clothes too".

I thought Gigi Gorgeous had had face softening done. She is so manly without filters. Very sharp jaw. I guess there is only so much that surgery can do.

Stud love

Lol r125, why do these deluded trannies think they can pass as the other sex. Not only that, this very deluded troon believes that gay men are "falling" for her just from looking at her.

I’m Very attracted to athletic studs like her

She could have been a hot stud r127, that's the shame of it all. If she'd been able to work through her family's homophobia she could be living a beautiful life right now. But she was low and messed up and that made her vulnerable to manipulation and deceit. There were no voices telling her it's ok to be gay, that it will get better. That's why we lesbians need to start fighting back and speaking out, so we can also create a space for these vulnerable women, give them positive lesbian role models and tell them it's ok, there's nothing wrong with them, their body is fine.

R128

As if your anti-trans rhetoric is helping him. This is what he wants and he’s happy. Your “concern” for him is phony when you won’t take him as he is.

My concern for lesbians who have such internalised homophobia that they feel the need to become men is very real, r129.

Black Lesbian Lives Matter

Black TRANS SEX WORKER lesbian lives matter.

model/singer/activist?

Can't the bitch pick a lane?

Do they date women or men?

How are his math skills?

I think Laith is hot as fuck. I would eat that pussy in a hot minute if given the chance.

R136, are you a lesbian?

No r137! I’m a cisgender gay male who appreciate hot men, regardless of whether they have a pussy or not. Rather you transphobic gay men like it or not, the world is headed toward a more sexually fluid society. Get over yourselves and get use to it.

R138 I see nothing sexually 'fluid' about a woman taking hormones trying to be something she can never be, or a man having his genitals carved up to resemble a vulva.

R138, Lol, Laith is a lesbian female. "He" wouldn't be interested in you anyway, weirdo. What episode of The Twilight Zone are you on?

R138 is a lying pro-trans shill.

Trans model.

Hmmm...

I like it

Remember when "model" used to be a mark of distinction? Those days are long gone.

When we were all younger and Cher’s daughter transitioned to become “Chaz”, this was something that, at the time, we knew occasionally happened with lesbians, in current times, heterosexual women doing this and crying “discrimination”, for not being accepted as gay men, is depraved. Their enablers are disgusting bisexuals who would encourage mentally ill women to become mutants in order to satisfy their fetish.

So many grotesque TERFs in this thread. Trans men are men. Fuck off with your hate speech.

Lol r146. Even Laith doesn't claim to be a man anymore.

[quote] the world is headed toward a more sexually fluid society.

They were saying this with regard to bisexuals back in the ‘80s and ‘90s.

Everyone was bi/fluid when I was in art school in the 90's and on the rave scene. GenZ think they invented this shit.

[quote]I’m a cisgender gay male

Don't you mean "queer" and "assigned male at birth", R138?

The correct term is Lactating Bad Ass.

R149, you didn’t have social media to make it trendy, monetized, and mainstream among the masses. Moreover, it wasn’t popular among the hot Gym jock bros back then

[quote]you didn’t have social

Thank Jesus God Almighty!

Trash promoting trashy lies.

King 👑!

Fire 🔥

Coverboy

I think he’s hot but the strap-on he wears to fake a bulge is a turn-off. I want to eat and fuck his snatch.

What does it mean when lines are drawn over the comments?

She's still a female.

I wanna have babies with him

This was one of those threads in which Matt-fatso was having a conversation with herself, which made up 90% of the thread. Imagine taking the time to do that on a message board. What a loser.

BUMP!

R24 Gross. Have you seen a real dick in your life? Also, these "neo-penises" allegedly always feel cold.