Looks like Carl Nassib is playing for a nasty homophobe

Well, at least "homophobic" was put first, for once.

Is he a man of faith and this not really who he is?

Why do we assume we have the right to see other people's emails? What if we all looked at the private messages of the average DLer?

I agree it's pretty fucked up. Is it because it's a workplace investigation that they can look at them?

“But league officials as part of a separate workplace misconduct investigation that did not directly involve him have found that Gruden, now the coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, casually and frequently unleashed misogynistic and homophobic language over several years to denigrate people around the game and to mock some of the league’s momentous changes.

He denounced the emergence of women as referees, the drafting of a gay player and the tolerance of players protesting during the playing of the national anthem, according to emails reviewed by The New York Times.

Gruden’s messages were sent to Bruce Allen, the former president of the Washington Football Team, and others, while he was working for ESPN as a color analyst during “Monday Night Football,” the sports network’s weekly prime-time telecast of N.F.L. games. In the emails, Gruden called the league’s commissioner, Roger Goodell, a “faggot” and a “clueless anti football pussy” and said that Goodell should not have pressured Jeff Fisher, then the coach of the Rams, to draft “queers,” a reference to Michael Sam, a gay player chosen by the team in 2014.“

Is it sad that I'm not surprised? This guy cannot last with 80% of the locker room being black and with the first openly gay player. And he didn't just say "faggot." Maybe he could have explained that as a nasty habit he picked up in the football world. He was flat out against drafting gay men to play. How can that POS stay? I would demand a trade if I were Nassib. It would probably work out for him better anyway considering that the Raiders are on their way to the usual shit season.

Of course the DC team is somehow involved in this.

People seem to think their work emails are a good space for personal comments. They aren’t. They can get caught up in any lawsuit involving your office and then there will be a bunch of (very tired and bored) lawyers reading your personal emails as an exciting break between dry and boring Excel spreadsheets and revenue reports.

If he's smart he won't say a word about it.

True. No expectation of privacy in work emails. R8, he can't not say a word about it. Many black players are already pissed about the Smith email, and now he's pulling gays and women into this. No doubt there are emails insulting every ethnicity and religion that isn't European and Christian.

R4, a good rule of thumb in the Internt era, and probably always, is never put anything in writing or allow your photo to be taken if you are not prepared to see it “in the newspaper”.

R3, they were work emails.

I feel bad for Nassib and also for the black guys who have to work with this racist SOB

Some of his emails were sent from his personal account, but were replies to a guy using his business account, so they were picked up in the workplace investigation.

This just shows you what gay players are up against

So..... are we supposed to be shocked by this?

Have always heard bad things about Gruden. Guess those things turned out to be true

[quote] Allen and Gruden also mocked Caitlyn Jenner, who received an award from ESPN in 2015 after she transitioned.

Well, I guess he isn’t all bad.

R16, just shows the kind of person you transphobes are siding with. Dumb Trumpster bigots

Another scumbag coach/player/owner/whatever. He should be cancelled.

They just fired him

I wonder if he said anything homophobic to Carl

Athletes, military, etc. want to be surrounded by exquisite specimens of machismo. No sex is allowed, but the constant closeness and taboo is intoxicating for them.

When a real homo enters the mix (or a woman), it's like throwing cold water on their wet dreams.

Glad he's going. As an added bonus, maybe the team will get better. I doubt he said anything to Carl's face after he knew that he's gay. Of course, as an NFL player in his 6th year, I'm sure Carl heard homophobic bullshit all day, every day before he came out.

Adam Schefter with the breaking news on MNF that Jon Gruden is resigning as Raiders head coach.

Glad he’s done. No broadcast work for him either.

Jon Gruden signed a 10-year, $100M contract in 2018 to become the #Raiders coach.

He ends up staying for just 3+ years, finishing with a record of 22-31 with no playoff appearances and no winning seasons.

Gosh, I wish I knew what all these words meant!

For the purposes of my Fantasy Football league, I hope this cripples the Raiders for the rest of the season.

[quote] I hope this cripples the Raiders for the rest of the season.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He also swapped topless photos of Washington cheerleaders with Bruce Allen. Two princes among men.

I'm not that interested in the game tonight, but I am going to watch halftime, because they're going to be covering all this.

The part that the NYT points out is that 70% of professional football players are black. That racist shit especially sinks him.

No, the racist shit has been out for over a week and friends and former (black) colleagues were defending him. It's the new homophobic and misogynistic shit that's sinking him.

Bye, bitch

"No, the racist shit has been out for over a week and friends and former (black) colleagues were defending him"

Not all black people are defending him, the vast majority want him gone

Not any longer! Coach just resigned.

His statement

On Reddit I said it was anti-gay, not anti-LGBTQ since he didn’t mention lesbians, bisexuals, or Questioning. And now I’m getting downvoted.

I found out later there were some insults about Caitlin Jenner so I guess there was some anti-T in there too.

Both the NYT and ESPN also said it was homophobia not anti-LGBTQ as well.

hope the new coach plays carl more, he's been in form this season but not seeing a lot of action.

I was reading comments on other sites, and some people wondered why NFL officials aren't ordering an examination of other team's work email accounts to see if the problems are league-wide.

I don't actually think they'll do that, but there must be a lot of coaches and admin people furiously deleting emails tonight and praying that there is no system where all emails are automatically archived and stored.

i hope carl had a crisis management team around him. this isn't anything he has done but he will get non stop questions about this and it will be important to answer well.

R39 the league won't because they don't want to fire all the head coaches

The Carl haters are pathological.

haha BYE bigot! So glad he's gone

so he's a misogynist, racist and homophobe. What a lovely combo

so many horrible white hetero boomers need to removed from positions of influence and authority

Poor baby. He just finished building a 4.5 million dollar mansion in Vegas.

Now he's saying he resigned.

Damn, I'm not so dumb after all.

Not that anybody gives an At's Rass what I ever had to write, but still, I never put anything in pen or pencil and paper I didn't want repeated or disseminated.

I sure as hell never put anything in a personal or work email that wasn't dry as tumbleweeds.

It's not complicated.

Carl didn't play in the game. I wonder if Gruden was behind it.

I thought the bears finally beat a good team yesterday, I guess not

He did play, R47, but only had 12 snaps, which is crazy since he's been playing at the level of Maxx and Yannick (the starters) in the first 4 games this season. I was wondering why his snaps were reduced after some really good plays.

Is it more than coincidence that this happens on the team with the first and only out gay player?

But ultimately isn’t it the RACE thing that did him in?

Race as main course, thé rest just disposable add-ins

That a 58 year old NFL coach said mysoginistic, homophobic and racist things - I mean, hell, almost all of the coaches would be fired.

I'm not saying that he shouldn't be punished, but this bullshit macho prejudice is woven into football culture.

I'm glad he got caught but this isn't surprising. Plenty of people COVERED for him for decades. He didn't just start saying this shit. It was normal and everyone was cool with it.

He's seriously dumb to put that stuff in emails. And he's been crap as a coach for the last 3 years.

Buh bye white trash. Good luck find another job in the industry.

"Carl Nassib" was a trending topic on Twitter tonight

He made $30 million in the last 3 years. He's gonna be fine.

This is what I imagine work emails of any white, straight entitled executive to look like. Drunk on power and no regard for others.

Only the morons, R57. And calling his boss a faggot and other names was really ingenious.

It was racist too. Why no mention of all the racism?

CNN's Don Lemon gave this a lot of coverage last night.

Thanks R49. I kept looking for him, so I must have missed the 12 snaps that he was on the field. ☹️

Gruden is pretty hot looking and very muscular.

R62: here’s one for you

He's always reeked of being a white trash bigot. So glad he got fired. Raiders fans are the worst. They are like ex-prison population

Hot, muscular and strong looking, R63. Thanks for sharing.

[quote]Is it more than coincidence that this happens on the team with the first and only out gay player?

Given that the emails were sent before Nassib joined the Raiders, probably so.

r66, they may have been written and sent before Nassib joined the Raiders, but the release to the media occurred after.

The release to the media had more to do with Goodell being pissed at the shit Gruden said about him than anything else. Obviously, the NFL isn't releasing other NFL staff emails with (I'm sure) equally horrible banter. Gruden would not have felt comfortable sending these types of emails without some very receptive ears.

Better to beat up a woman than write a nasty e-mail about her.

NFL leaked Gruden's emails to get rid of him.

Ultimately the black media will make it a totally racial issue, disregarding the gays and women:

The question we should be asking is not really [about] the existence of the e-mails, but what is the culture in the NFL, period," said Jemelle Hill, a contributing writer for The Atlantic. "And this culture has existed since the very inception of the NFL... It's about all the people he was emailing. And people realize that he was emailing back and forth... So if this is the pervasive attitude, if this is the group think in the NFL, black people don't have a chance of being in leadership in the NFL at all because this is not just about Jon Gruden."

This isn't good. This shit show obviously affected him.

Nassib voted for exactly this when he voted for Trump.

Who does he think makes up America's Republicans?

This is just a simple misunderstanding about a very fine coach and we shouldn't even pay attention to it because we love football and we love that there's a gay football player and football is gay and all that you know because yay.

Maybe he just wanted to avoid the hoards of reporters who would harass him. This is irrelevant, since Gruden was 'fired" for his racial comments, not his homophobic or misogynistic ones. Anti-black remarks are the only ones that can get one fired.

He uses Trump's deplorable hair stylist.

The anti-black remark didn't get Gruden fired. That remark leaked a week ago and they still let him coach last Sunday's game. When the NFL (that obviously wanted Gruden gone) saw that this racist remark didn't do the trick, they released the homophobic and sexist emails. I think that the Raiders GM said it best: Nassib is a community of 1. The black players have each other and are 80% of the team. He has himself. Can't be easy.

R77 is correct. On Sunday many of Gruden's friends and former colleagues came out and supported him. The next day, more emails were released.

And this anti-Nassib freak needs to move on.

[quote] this anti-Nassib freak

You mean the dozens on Datalounge and the thousands in real life who don't give a shit about a closet Republican homo playing football, you dumb asslicking GOP MAGAt FAGAt?

If you, or your hypothetical dozens of people, didn't give a shit, you wouldn't be posting so often or in such unhinged language. Duh. Please just keep scrolling.

Just to piss you off you, ass-licking MAGAt whore. Poor OP (admittedly of multiple fawning Nassib threads) is butthurt because we're not all lavishing praise on a Republican gay football player as if he's the new Rosa Parks.

Poor little bitch is butthurt, butthurt, butthurt.

Block him, r80. This asshole is on every Nassib thread posting dozens of hateful messages and he keeps coming back. The threads are so much better without seeing his posts.

R82; Butthurt!

Also, the fact that these homophobic, racist misogynist emails were flying around staff communications for months -if not years- also, him undoubtedly saying such things in-person, and everyone knew about it - just proves that they were all complicit for a long time.

Suddenly, the Raiders are woke and PC, when they allowed this for months or years and everyone knew about it. Nassib is a mere pawn in this late shift.

And? Carl votes and supports the party of Trump. Just remember, in 2016 that party could remove anti-Russian items from the platform, but didn’t dare touch their definition of marriage as between a man and woman, ONLY.

So since Carl puts his money before principles, I say working under a homophobe is poetic Justice. Make that money Carl and thanks for coming out! The Raiders knew about this issue long ago and were all to pleased to have Carl in their back pocket as cover for the day these came out. Watch him support his coach.

He's no longer his coach, you half-wit. You all seriously make it seem like he devoted a year of his life making campaign speeches for Trump. He just came out and has his first open relationship with a BLM supporter. Some of us a willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is on some kind of journey of self-discovery. And yes, I acknowledge that most of us are willing to do so because of what he looks like.

Yes, R85, he supports his FORMER coach so much that he had to take a personal day today to process the shit that went down. Fuck off, asshole

R86 I give children and teenagers the benefit of the doubt, not grown ass men pushing 30. He has a college degree and millions in the bank, he has the resources to be informed yet he not only registered as a Republican in FL but during his recent move to NV. His voting patterns say a lot about who he is as a person and what morals he obviously lacks.

So what he fucks a BLM supporter. Carl still has one vote in many up and down allot races, yet based on his registration he prefers to align himself with the anti-gay Republican Party. Fuck him!

R87 I made a mistake on that front but this personal day stuff is for his PR team to prepare for his eventual interviews along with the Raiders and NFL. You all are fools if you didn’t think this was pre-orchestrated by the NFL. Not to say Carl was aware, but he is aware that he has a part of play in the NFL’s PR spin.

The NFL released the emails, the Raiders had the right player on their team to give cover for the coaches gay issues. This is why they were over the top supportive of him when he came out a few months ago and kept him on their rosters. They have plenty of ball players to cover the race front. No one gives a shot about the Trans/Jenner hits. Carl will be on ESPN or some morning show, milking this for his brand by next week.

He will be sure to say how supportive the Raiders are and how proud he is of the NFL to release these emails. Then he’ll pivot to how hard it is to be gay in sports and talk about how he wants to inspire the youth.

Meanwhile, a rep form the NFL, the Raiders, and Carl’s PR will be standing off camera refreshing Twitter feeds on the sidelines to see how this plays.

The NFL and Raiders intentionally put Carl in their corner knowing eventually this would come out. His day off is probably to take it all in, but you know the NFL is handelivering talking points to their new golden boy I mean, cover. It’s all PR.

I don’t begrudge him for doing this but he’s not a kid and this is how the game is played. You all sitting her crying for poor Carl are just falling into the PR machine.

When it comes down to it, aren't we all just cogs in that giant machine that exists to run Carl Nassib's PR?

WW R88!!!

`R89, we got it. You don't like him. Move on and post on threads dedicated to the perfect people you do like. Bye.

R92 Nassib shill troll.

Yes, I'm sure his shills have nothing better to do than troll this useless forum, R93. We fucking get it. You don't like him. It will not change others' opinion of him no matter how many times you tell us that he voted for Trump.

R94 voted for Trump twice, too, like Nassib.

OP, R92, R94 etc. = [bold] BUTT. HURT. [/bold]

Nope - wrong, R95. Voted for Hillary then Biden like a good Dem. Still refuse to vilify a guy who has not said one word about his political affiliation even if his judgement is questionable. I also have no idea where he's at politically right now. People are complex creatures and, believe it or not, they can even change their minds.

Gruden's son Deuce.

Another of fireplug Deuce.

Is the son a Proud Boy member of the Lollipop Guild chapter?

Gruden is worse than I thought. He named his midget son, Deuce? OMG!

Carl Nassib?

Carl Nasty!

Gruden always makes faces like Carl is fucking his butt.

R103.

Guys! The real issue here is what happened to Dan Abrams???? He used to be hot!!

R105.

Well he kinda is a little shit R101.

Deuce (lol) is officially listed as 5'6", is a conditioning coach, and is keeping his job. He has, however, deleted his Instagram account.

Apparently, poor Deuce used to work in the same role for his uncle, Jay Gruden, .who coached the Washington (then) Redskins. Jay was fired due to the Redskins' shit record (0-5). Getting fired is a Gruden family pastime.

R29- If The Washington cheerleaders didn't want their tits ogled they wouldn't have posed nude.

R44- Gruden has made many times that over the years- He'll be fine. 4 mil in Vegas isn't exactly a palace.

R110, they didn't pose nude. Apparently some photographers who worked for the WFT were asked to go backstage at a photo shoot of the cheerleaders and take "candid" photos without the cheerleaders' permission. This is one of the reasons that they investigated that team.